Samurai revenge. Is Japan getting ready for the battle for the "northern territories"?

Why modern Japan, which suffered a crushing defeat from the Red Army in 1939 in Khalkhin Gol and in 1945 in the Far East, is trying to rewrite historycreates the myth of "Soviet aggression"? At the same time, forgetting about the aggressive policy of the Japanese Empire, the war crimes of the Japanese army. Obviously, Japan, following in the footsteps of the West, is ready to review the outcome of World War II in its favor.


Samurai revenge. Is Japan getting ready for the battle for the "northern territories"?

Helicopter carrier (part of the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force) (DDH 183 Izumo, official helicopter destroyer squadron). Largest warship built in Japan after World War II


Hence the activity of Japan on the issue of "northern territories". Obviously, Japan will not stop at the Kuril Islands. Tokyo is setting the stage for a new intervention in the Far East. Russians should look in the eyes of the Japanese as "aggressors", invaders of the "original" Japanese territories. In recent years, the Japanese have been actively building up the shock capabilities of their armed forces - at sea, air and land. Marines were created, aircraft carrier strike groups and military-space forces were formed. In fact, Japan abandoned the concept of defense and creates a full-fledged armed forces (previously their development was limited), capable of offensive actions, including the landing of naval assault forces. NATO creates the infrastructure for intervention in Russia in the western direction, Japan - in the eastern direction. Moscow’s western and eastern “partners” are waiting for the moment of a new “turmoil” in Russia, when it will be possible to start sharing the skins of the Russian bear.

Japanese expansion in the Far East. Milestones


Russian-Japanese War 1904 — 1905 culminated in a severe political defeat of the Russian Empire in the Far East. Russia was inferior to Japan South Sakhalin. The sphere of influence of Japan departed Korea and South Manchuria. The Japanese received all the ships that surrendered, and raised in Port Arthur and other places. Russia paid 46 million rubles in gold for “keeping prisoners in Japan”, essentially a contribution.

The Japanese Empire did not stop there. After the 1917 revolution, when the Russian Empire collapsed and unrest began in Russia, the Japanese Empire again set its sights on the Russian Far East. The moment was extremely favorable. Russia at that moment could not protect its lands at all. The initiators of the invasion were the United States, England and France. The West and Japan began the intervention to dismember Russia into puppet bantustans, capture strategic cities, districts, wealth and resources of the country. The Japanese authorities recognized the power of the “supreme ruler” Kolchak, but in fact they supported the “independent” atamans Semenov and Kalmykov in the Far East. The Japanese planned to create puppet state formations that were completely politically, militarily and economically dependent on the Japanese Empire.

The Red Army defeated Kolchak, Semenov and other white formations in Siberia and the Far East. Japan’s plans to colonize the Russian Far East collapsed. 25 October 1922, the Japanese fleet, stationed in the Golden Horn Bay, with the last expeditionary forces on board, lifted anchors and began to go to sea. On the same day, red troops entered Vladivostok without a fight. The Japanese remained only in Northern Sakhalin, from where they left only in May 1925.

In the 1930 years, Japan resumed active expansion in the Far East. The Japanese elite had long planned the occupation of Manchuria. The Japanese Empire needed markets and sources of raw materials, a strategic bridgehead on the continent. Island Japan needed a “living space” for development. The Japanese elite believed that it should rightfully belong to the Asia-Pacific region. Back in the 20 years in Japan, the concept of Japanese dominance in the Pacific and Asia was adopted (the so-called "eight corners under one roof"). " The idea of ​​“Great Japan” was introduced into the masses, where the territories of the Russian Far East and Siberia down to the Urals were added to the lands of the empire.

In 1931, the Japanese invaded Manchuria. In 1932, the puppet state of Manzhou-go was created. The Japanese made the last Qing Emperor Pu I. its head. The real power in Manzhou belongs to the Japanese. They invested large capital in the region. Manchuria was turned into the second industrial and agricultural center of the Japanese Empire and a strategic bridgehead for further expansion directed against China, Mongolia and the USSR.

It is worth noting that England and the United States, as during the First Russian-Japanese War, in the 1920 – 1930 years continued the policy of inciting Japan to Russia. The West tried to turn Japan into its "battering ram" for the subjugation and plunder of Chinese and Russian civilizations. Whereas in the West Hitler was raised against the Soviet (Russian) civilization and created the Third Reich, giving him almost all of Europe, in the East Japan was the "club" of England and the USA. For the time being, the Japanese elite followed this strategy, it was beneficial to it. Japan received technology, strategic materials and loans. But Japan was preparing to "liberate" all of Asia from the "white barbarians" (including the British and Americans).

Until the early 1930s, Moscow pursued a very flexible and cautious policy in the Far East, trying to avoid a war with Japan. In particular, the Soviet Union was forced to cede Japan to the CER. After the Japanese occupation of Manchuria, it was obvious that the railway could not be restrained. Soviet diplomats resisted as best they could, dragging on time, but in March 1935, Moscow ceded to Manzhou all rights to the CER for 140 million yen, that is, at a symbolic cost (the road cost much more). At the same time, since 1931, Moscow has begun rapidly restoring the defense capabilities of the Far East. Until that time, the USSR did not have in the Pacific fleet and fortifications.

In 1937, Japan launched a massive invasion of China. In fact, this was the beginning of World War II in Asia. The bloody war continued until 1945, when Japan was defeated under the blows of the USSR and the USA. Japanese troops occupied a significant part of China, millions of Chinese were killed. Celestial Empire suffered huge material and cultural losses.


Japanese interventionists in Vladivostok. 1918



Japanese interventionists from the corpses of the railway workers shot by them. Far East. 1920


Hassan. Khalkhin Gol


Since 1936, the Japanese began to organize serious provocations on the Soviet border. In 1936 — 1937 the Japanese tried to capture the islands on the Amur River. On the one hand, it was a test of strength, on the other, the capture of the islands made it possible to interrupt shipping on the Amur. In May-June of 1938, the Japanese militarists launched a wide propaganda campaign around the so-called disputed territories on the border between Manchuria and Soviet Primorye. In July – August 1938, Japanese forces tried to advance in the area of ​​Lake Hassan, but were defeated.

Along with plans for expansion in Soviet Primorye, the Japanese military and political elite prepared plans for the occupation of Outer Mongolia - the Mongolian People's Republic (MPR). Despite the obvious readiness of the USSR to defend the MPR with military force, the Japanese militarists began aggression. The Japanese command chose the area near the Khalkhin Gol River as the place for invasion. Since January 1939, provocations began in the Khalkhin Gol area. 11 May 1939 g. The Japanese launched an invasion. Active battles continued until mid-September 1939. As a result, the Japanese were defeated in the sky and on land.

Japan appealed to the USSR for a truce. 16 September 1939 g. Hostilities were discontinued. The Japanese military-political elite was forced to press the "brake" and retreat. This was due to two factors. First, Moscow showed a steel position, backed up by the power of the Red Army. Soviet troops crushed the 6-th Japanese army. This made a big impression on the Japanese. Secondly, Tokyo’s position was connected with the Soviet-German non-aggression pact of 23 on August 1939. Tokyo was very surprised by this agreement, as they were waiting for the Germans to attack the Russians soon. As a result, supporters of the “southern strike” prevailed in Japan, expansion to the south, the war with the USSR was postponed indefinitely. And Moscow received almost two years of respite and could strengthen its forces in the Far East.


We defeated the Japanese samurai! September 1939


The issue of "northern territories"


During World War II, Japan remained neutral, although it was ready to start a war with the USSR if the Germans took Moscow in 1941 and won the Volga and the Caucasus in 1942. Throughout the war, the situation in the Far East was tense. The Kwantung army still threatened the USSR, provocations occurred on the border. 9 August 1945 g. The Union, fulfilling its obligations to the Allies in the anti-Hitler coalition, began a war with the Japanese Empire. The Red Army defeated Japanese troops in Manchuria, liberated Northeast China, Korea, South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands. Japan, having lost the opportunity to continue the war, capitulated.

USSR performance was due to two leading reasons. Firstly, these are national interests. Russia was supposed to regain the position in the Far East, lost as a result of the peace in Portsmouth in 1905. Secondly, the war was inevitable due to the confrontation between the USSR and the West, the forerunners of which began during the war with the Third Reich. If the USSR had not entered the war with Japan, then the Western coalition led by the United States would still have finished off Japan (by about 1947). During this time, the Americans strengthened their alliance with the Chiang Kai-shek regime in China, the Chinese Communists were defeated. The USSR received huge China allied to the Americans. Hostile Chinese armies supported by the western weapons and technology. The Americans would create bases in North China, Korea, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands, not counting the "Japanese aircraft carrier."

Thus, having entered the war with Japan, the Stalinist USSR took historic revenge for the 1904-1905 war, returned the lost territories, secured and strengthened its borders in the Far East, and got the opportunity for the Pacific Fleet to freely enter the ocean. In the near future, our allies will be a huge communist China (in fact, it was the war of the USSR against Japan that led to the appearance of communist China) and North Korea. That is, we secured the Russian Far East (right up to the collapse of the USSR). Only interested politicians or complete fools can consider the Manchu operation of the Soviet troops in August 1945 as aggression and a violation of the Soviet-Japanese treaty of neutrality.

In the first years after the end of the war, Japan had neither a peace treaty nor diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union. Under the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty, Japan renounced any claim to Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands. However, the agreement did not determine the ownership of the islands. And Moscow, including for this reason, did not sign it. At the same time, both sides were interested in the development of trade, mutually beneficial economic, cooperation, joint solution of maritime security problems, etc.

Consultations on normalizing relations began in 1954 — 1955. Obviously, it was connected with the death of Stalin and the “perestroika-1” that Khrushchev began. Tokyo decided it was time to make territorial claims. In 1956, Japan raised the question of the return of "historical lands" to Japan - the Shikotan, Habomai, Iturup and Kunashir islands occupied by Soviet troops in 1945. In October 1956 in Moscow, negotiations were held between the head of the Japanese government Itiro Hatoyama and Khrushchev and Bulganin. Moscow's strategic goal was the withdrawal of American troops and the elimination of their bases in Japan. For this, Khrushchev was ready for serious concessions. The USSR agreed to accept Japan as a member of the UN, where we had a veto in the Security Council. Moscow rejected all reparation claims against Japan. Khrushchev also promised to transfer the South Kuril Islands to Japan. That is, it was the intention to complete the transaction, and not the obligation to give the islands to Japan.

However, the Japanese could not expel the Americans from their territory. The Japanese government in January 1960 signed a new "security agreement" with the United States for a period of 10 years. In response, Moscow sent a memo to Tokyo, which noted the actual "occupation" by the Americans of Japan, the granting of its territory to the United States, that is, the actual military, economic and political dependence of the country. The Soviet government stated that only with the withdrawal of US troops from Japanese territory and the signing of a peace treaty between the USSR and Japan, the islands of Habomai and Shikotan would be transferred to Japan, as provided for in the joint USSR and Japan Declaration of October 19 on 1956 of October.

After that, the Japanese government not only did not stop making claims, but also announced new "original Japanese territories." In 1967, in Japan, the special term “northern territories” was introduced to designate territorial claims against Russia. Later, the Ministry of Northern Territory was even established. The content of the term “northern territories” is interpreted differently. In the “narrow sense” - Kunashir, Iturup, Shikotan and Khabomai, in the “broad” - all the Kuril Islands and South Sakhalin with adjacent islands. And Japanese nationalists consider Northern Sakhalin, Kamchatka, Primorye and Amur to be “their” territories. That is, under favorable conditions, Japan may return to the expansion plans of the 1918 and 1930 models.

As a result, this question exists to this day. The modern Russian Federation has expressed its readiness to return to the USSR Declaration of 1956, but on approximately the same conditions - the signing of a peace treaty and Tokyo’s commitment not to allow the islands to be used for US military bases. In Japan, this raised new hopes for the return of the "northern territories."


Lieutenant General K.N. Derevyanko on behalf of the USSR signs the Act of Japan's surrender aboard the American battleship Missouri. 2 September 1945


"Japanese aircraft carrier" USA. Preparing to resolve the issue of "northern territories"


After surrender, Japan, unlike Germany, began to be solely controlled by the Americans. The United States has turned Japan into its unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Pacific Ocean and has maintained bases there to this day. The United States also helped create the global Japanese “factory” (and later the Chinese one), making Japan one of the leading global economies. That is, Japan has created scientific, technological and industrial potential for the rapid construction of first-class armed forces.

Under the 1947 Constitution of the year, the Japanese people “forever” refused war as the sovereign right of the nation, as well as the threat or use of armed force to resolve international disputes. Therefore, Japan refused to create land, naval and air forces, and other means of war. However, the United States still required a "Japanese club" in the Far East, directed against the USSR and China, although now it is under the complete control of America. Therefore, already in the 40 years, the Americans allowed "police units." In 1950, an additional police corps was formed, consisting of 75 thousand people, which became the nucleus of the future Japanese army. On 1951 of the year, a military alliance agreement was signed between Japan and the United States in San Francisco. In Japan, propaganda against the "communist aggressor" is permitted (as if the Russians had occupied Japan!). During the Korean War, Japan became the strategic base and rear base of the United States. In 1952, Japan established the National Security Forces; in 1954, it was reorganized into the Self-Defense Forces of Japan. So the de facto regular army was recreated. Self-defense forces have been consistently developed, with the restoration of the Air Force and Navy.

Currently, Japan has almost completely abandoned military restrictions. The country has one of the largest military budgets in the world, its armed forces are one of the most powerful and modern on the planet. Helicopter carriers (actually light aircraft carriers), destroyers with guided missile weapons, landing ships, attack aircraft and drones receive the armed forces, and modern air defense missile defense systems have been created and are constantly being strengthened. In the United States, airborne early warning (AWACS) and E-2D control aircraft are being bought. There are plans for the purchase of vertical takeoff and landing fighters (for “helicopter carriers”). Means of electronic war are being developed, marines have been created, and a military-space unit is being formed.

In Japan, as in the West, they are actively reviewing the period of World War II and its results. The USSR is already considered as an "aggressor." It is now reported that Japan in 1939 launched a “preemptive strike” to prevent a “forthcoming Soviet invasion” of Manzhou-go. Whereas in the West the myth of the "Hitler's preventive strike" on the USSR is being promoted in order to "save" Europe from the Stalinist occupation, in Japan the myth of "Russian aggression" is being promoted. Like, the command of the Kwantung Army only sought to ensure the safety of the railway being built in the west of Manchuria in the direction of the MPR, but the "Soviet aggressors and their Mongolian satellites" did not allow these peace plans to be realized. Both Japan and Manzhou-go had to "defend themselves." Moreover, some Japanese researchers report that it was Mongolia, under pressure from Moscow, that sent troops into Manchuria, which provoked a conflict. And during the Great Patriotic War, Japan allegedly strictly abided by the terms of the Soviet-Japanese neutrality pact of April 13 1941, which was "treacherously violated by the USSR" in August 1945.

These myths are part of a large-scale campaign to revise the outcome of World War II, which is conducted in Japan and the West. USSR (Russia) put up as "aggressor"which, at least, is no less guilty at the beginning of the World War than Hitler Germany. Under this pretext, we can rewrite the political results of the war. Demand compensation from Russia for material damage and “return of the occupied territories”, including the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad or Vyborg.

Thus, in addition to propaganda treatment of the population and diplomatic demarches towards Moscow (when members of the government visit the Kuril Islands or military exercises take place there, the Japanese elite no longer excludes the forceful scenario of the return of the "northern territories". Japan already has advanced armed forces, a powerful fleet that surpasses the Pacific Fleet in conventional armaments (it was hardly updated after the collapse of the USSR). If NATO creates the infrastructure for intervention in Russia in the western direction, then Japan - in the eastern direction. The informational "ground" for the new division of Russia is already ready. The USSR and Russia are considered as "aggressors" who illegally occupied the "northern territories" of Japan. Preparations are underway for a new intervention, when “perestroika” begins in Russia in a liberal fashion. And the Kuril Islands is only the first goal.
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  1. Same lech 2 October 2019 06: 35 New
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    Japanese interventionists from the corpses of the railway workers shot by them. Far East. 1920

    I am categorically against any negotiations with Japan on the return of our Kuril Islands ... and I demand from the State Duma deputies the adoption of a law on the criminal liability of any official in the Russian government for trying to conduct these negotiations with Japan ... this issue should be closed once and for all.
    1. carstorm 11 2 October 2019 07: 01 New
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      Well, why so tough))) let them say) there such conditions Lavrov put forward that it became even curious to look at this circus) I am waiting for the promised hara-kiri to the Japanese prime minister)
    2. Doctor 2 October 2019 09: 47 New
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      This issue should be closed once and for all.

      Unfortunately, history teaches us that in this world nothing happens once and for all. Declarations and treaties work when they are confirmed by military force. And in the East we have problems with this. As always - until the thunder strikes ....
      1. K-50 2 October 2019 17: 51 New
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        Quote: Arzt
        Unfortunately, history teaches us that in this world nothing happens once and for all. Declarations and treaties work when they are confirmed by military force. And in the East we have problems with this

        You might think that the rockets stopped flying. You think in terms of the pre-rocket era. hi
    3. bandabas 2 October 2019 11: 58 New
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      From our "deputies? They will be shown ... and they’ll sell anything. And even more, to their kids for the milk.
      1. Lexus 2 October 2019 14: 34 New
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        After the “successful demarcation” of the border on the Amur and in the Barents Sea, today's protracted “fraternities” with Japan are at least alarming.
    4. tol100v 2 October 2019 20: 08 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      ..this issue should be closed once and for all.

      And to remind everyone else who "wants" to get rich at the expense of Russia, the list is large, but it seems that the Strategic Missile Forces will cope in half an hour!
    5. Chaldon48 3 October 2019 06: 18 New
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      Give the hell a finger, lose your hand.
  2. Tarasios 2 October 2019 07: 10 New
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    "there Lavrov put forward such conditions"
    Alas, on the example of such harsh conditions for Russia to return to PACE and the subsequent payment of "compensation" - a circus, which is insulting, may be in Russia itself :( Let's see what happens next.
    1. gel
      gel 2 October 2019 07: 24 New
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      Fuck Russia PACE zdala. They will put forward some conditions in general to send them away.
      Also with the northern territories. Forget .....
      The war with Japan is unrealistic ---- the only thing that can be expected is a crowd of the wooed public who will trample on schooners insolently to land. If Russia starts to shoot at them, a terrible howl about aggressive politics will start .....
      Well, in extreme cases, if even so - a strike by the Kyrgyz Republic on nuclear power plants in Japan and a mustache .....
      1. Chaldon48 3 October 2019 06: 21 New
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        It is necessary to strengthen air defense in the Kuril Islands in every possible way. Well, other features too.
      2. Ttht 3 October 2019 16: 32 New
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        This is what the Japs should say at the official level - like, they say, you’ll just hint about the territories again, and two missiles at the nuclear power plant will be enough for you, and Hiroshima and Nagasaki will seem like a picnic for you — only a tough answer can be achieved among the jackals
    2. carstorm 11 2 October 2019 07: 58 New
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      I do not consider it important as these payments and in general any hype associated with this. since it was necessary to return there, then it is necessary. I'm not to judge. right away there’s a conversation from another opera-territory. I can’t put an equal sign between them with all the desire.
      1. tol100v 2 October 2019 20: 17 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        I do not consider it important as these payments and in general any hype associated with this. since it was necessary to return there, then it is necessary

        So you need to explain to these idiots where the SGA, and where They live! And who takes the tops! And who wants to plant them on a gas-tanker needle for the sake of their commercial gain! Sales markets and political command from the State Department! We’re not talking about prez! So zits-chairman before landing on the "zone"!
  3. Mikhail Drabkin 2 October 2019 07: 30 New
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    ... and the Kuril Islands is only the first goal ...

    CONCLUSION:
    There can be no question of any return of the island. Russia needs to be strong, and especially in the Far East.
    ANALYSIS:

    -The absence of a peace treaty after the cessation of hostilities === this means a state of ceasefire during the war.
    —- The war with Japan is not formally finished !!! And mutual embassies are just delegations for negotiations on the conditions for ending the war.
    —- The Japanese think of time as eras. For them, relations with Russia are a continuous era. The state of war with Russia is invariable even taking into account the 74-year truce.
    -There is no agreement === there is a state of war. Solid draft: Japan may resume hostilities. And in terms of precedent and international law, Japan should not even declare war on Russia. And it will not be formally considered an aggressor !!!
    —- This is well understood in the Russian Foreign Ministry. Moreover, Russia has no complaints against Japan, and from the point of view of international law, Russia cannot start hostilities without violating it.
    —- The only result of a nuclear war is in Japan, with international sympathy, including Russian !!! Therefore, it will be necessary to fight with Japan nuclear-free .... And this is without taking into account the role of America in the possible continuation / renewal of the war ...
    CONCLUSION:
    Russia needs to be strong, and especially in the Far East. And do not look for complications with China by the way.
    1. mark1 2 October 2019 08: 44 New
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      Quote: Michael Drabkin
      Moreover, Russia has no complaints against Japan, and from the point of view of international law, Russia cannot start hostilities without violating it.

      They have such claims - today there is no tomorrow ... As an example - the northern part of Hokkaido .. no worse than the requirements of the northern territories. The return of reparations and the demand for compensation for the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 and intervention during the Civil War on the basis of the WWII.
      Quote: Michael Drabkin
      - The only result of nuclear war is in Japan, with international sympathy, including Russian !!! Therefore, it will be necessary to fight Japan without nuclear weapons ....

      That’s when there will be some idiots in the government, then Japan and I will fight without nuclear weapons, if only the rest of the world likes it.
      Quote: Michael Drabkin
      And this is without taking into account the role of America in the possible continuation / renewal of the war ...

      Well, with it, it goes without saying nuclear, but otherwise ...
      They do not understand the air javelin - beat until the Japanese islands go under water. And believe me - according to the results, the world will justify us.
    2. K-50 2 October 2019 17: 55 New
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      Quote: Michael Drabkin
      Japan should not even declare war on Russia. And it will not be formally considered an aggressor !!!

      Your thesis is entirely applicable to Russia. We can bathe on them with a vigorous loaf, like a pin dos and we are not aggressors. Only after our "basting", all the yuppa islands in the Pacific Ocean will drown. lol
      1. Grits 3 October 2019 11: 51 New
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        Only after our "basting", all the yuppa islands in the Pacific Ocean will drown.

        Yes, there is no need for nuclear weapons. A sufficient number of Caliber, KR from our aircraft and the remains of the ships will be enough for the eyes. Japan is an over-urban state. A large number of nuclear power plants, chemical plants, and other hazardous production facilities with an excessive population density is a ready-made mine. The entire population of Japan became hostages of their geographical position and developed industry. A missile strike, even in its usual form (not nuclear weapons), will simply cause the collapse of the entire economy, a monstrous environmental and social catastrophe. In fact, the vast majority of Japan will simply die out within a few days. not even under the rubble of their cities, but in their own apartments without basic livelihoods. And the chaos and looting in the struggle for survival will finish them off completely.
    3. Rostislav 2 October 2019 21: 03 New
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      There is no agreement === there is a state of war. Solid draft: Japan may resume hostilities. And in terms of precedent and international law, Japan should not even declare war on Russia. And it will not be formally considered an aggressor !!!

      So from a change in terms ...
      If Japan has a right, then Russia also has a right, because the parties are at war. The question is who will break the first truce.
      1. Cyril G ... 9 October 2019 22: 50 New
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        Japan, I recall, signed a complete and unconditional surrender, what kind of peace treaty in question, I personally do not understand
  4. Tarasios 2 October 2019 07: 39 New
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    As an example, I said about PACE - an example of how behind the decisive departure of Russia from this office, the delay in paying membership dues and the subsequent firm conditions put forward by Russia - there followed, in fact, absolute deflection, the payment of all "debt". And yes, PACE is now again "running into" Russia. So you need to understand that all statements of politicians (of any country) about the “firm position” of “absolute inadmissibility” and “eternal conditions” (such as eternal peace, friendship, etc.) can be replayed at any time.
  5. Pedrodepackes 2 October 2019 07: 52 New
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    In recent years, the Japanese have been actively building up the shock capabilities of their armed forces - at sea, air and land. Marines were created, aircraft carrier strike groups and military-space forces were formed.
    and it’s almost from the “zero mark”, which parallels are traced with one country in the west, which rose from 1933 to 1939. Not to repeat the mistakes of the past.
    1. Alexey RA 2 October 2019 12: 31 New
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      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      and it’s almost from the “zero mark”, which parallels are traced with one country in the west, which rose from 1933 to 1939.

      The Japanese had a "zero mark" in 1945. And the revival of the army, air force and navy began during the Korean War.
      The Japanese "self-defense forces" at the time of our "developed socialism" were a normal army, and the fleet surpassed most of the fleets of NATO countries (except for aircraft carriers Ijn There was no JMSDF - but there were helicopter destroyers) and was third in the theater of operations.
      1. Greenwood 3 October 2019 02: 47 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        and the fleet exceeded most of the fleets of NATO countries (except that IJN JMSDF did not have aircraft carriers - but there were helicopter destroyers) and was the third in the theater of operations.
        He is sobsno and now the third, and sometimes even the second. Ships of thirty years ago, which are considered one of the newest (!) On our Pacific Fleet, are written off by the Japanese.
        1. ser56 3 October 2019 11: 11 New
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          the Japanese are written off.

          not ships fight, but people ... request The quality of modern Japanese as a soldier can be seen in the example of the accident at the Fukushima nuclear power plant ... request and you can also see their demographics - birth rates tend to zero - they shout a lot about the Russian cross, but they simply die out ....
          Fertility - 7,93 per 1000 (2015).
          Mortality - 9,51 per 1000 (2015).
          hi they were blown away as an empire, and the authorities simply distract from internal problems ...
          1. Departure 3 October 2019 13: 23 New
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            there are reasons for this: terrible working conditions, virtually no privacy, and expensive living space and crowding. since the time of the samurai, the motto was changed to work, the rest remained unchanged. Recently, some slight liberalization of working conditions has begun in enterprises, probably due to demographics
            1. Greenwood 3 October 2019 13: 41 New
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              Quote: departure
              terrible working conditions
              How is it shown? The Japanese have good salaries (an average of 250k yen per month), work in modern conditions on modern equipment. I have been to Japanese enterprises, to company offices (and not in Tokyo, but in the provinces). What terrible conditions are you talking about?
              Quote: departure
              almost no privacy
              They have a personal life, not all Japanese suffer from gambling and isolation. The problem is different, they are actively developing a cult of careerism and success, when both men and women first strive to achieve certain heights in their careers, earn good money, and only then start a family. Because of this, they often sit up late at work, naturally there is no time left for personal life. By the way, we have similar problems.
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              expensive living space
              Only in Tokyo and partly in Osaka. In other cities, prices are quite reasonable by Japanese standards. In Hokkaido, in general, everything is very cheap.
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              crowding
              Popular cliche. I lived in western Tokyo, the Suginami area. It consists for the most part of separate two-story family houses. In small apartments mostly students who have no money for normal housing, foreigners who also save on arrival in the country and those who want to live 2 meters from any pathos of entertainment areas like Shibuya, Shinjuku or Akihabara, huddle in small apartments. If you do not believe me, open Google Earth, turn on 3D models of buildings and see what Tokyo buildings look like. And yes, residential quarters look extinct during working hours. There are almost no people on the streets. Life boils only in a few business and leisure districts in the city center and along the metro ring line.
              1. Departure 4 October 2019 15: 01 New
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                Good afternoon. I’ve copied from one of the other topics, "they’ve already discussed this point a bit: for example, bulbs above the conveyor workers, there is a tape and people are standing and picking something on it, if someone skips suddenly, the bulb lights up directly above him and colleagues he’s being pressed well (not exactly the boss, albeit also, but the neighbors in misfortune). one of the many details. This is a conveyer organization, an office organization, when a subordinate’s table is standing and a microsheaf is sitting behind him, behind which his microsheft sits and .... the flow of negative flows from greater to lesser non-stop, folding at the end. not the most favorable working atmosphere, let’s say, of course, that young people want to move up a couple of tables.
                I read your dialogue, I agree with the remark that a person burns out at work very quickly, according to my statistics, they have a week of vacation for sakura blossom, but people write that someone has only one day of vacation. Processing they have a mandatory phenomenon, and they sit from morning to night. One former colleague works for me there and he recently wrote that he was promoted and he is very happy. when I asked to clarify what kind of position he now has, he said that the position and salary remained the same, but now he was allowed to leave work on time and he is very happy.
                Personal life ... if a Japanese devotes one hour an hour to his girlfriend twice a week, then it is believed that he devotes a lot of time to her ... they are of course already used to it, but for me they still don’t have it, than she is.
                I was surprised to read that the Japanese were sitting in their trousers at the office ... it’s somewhere that corresponds to the truth, demanding there be healthy.
                As for housing, all my sources are migrants, former colleagues who worked, who work there, perhaps they perceive this issue somewhat in their own way. Crowding is a well-worn cliche, but alas it works. Take Moscow as an example, it takes lives, and who has children here and many more? for citizens of Central Asia, and for local and our visitors, the coefficients crawl to minus. there are exceptions that I wrote about, but with the exception, there were no exceptions. Of course, many factors affect fertility, it’s just one of the possible
          2. Greenwood 3 October 2019 13: 32 New
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            The quality of modern Japanese as a soldier can be seen in the example of the accident at the Fukushima nuclear power plant ...
            Fukushima Americans built if that. And recalling the events of March 2011, we can recall how strong the shock was and how little people died due to their evacuation skills, triggered warning systems and developed infrastructure. Had this happened with us, the consequences would have been much more tragic.
            1. Alexey RA 3 October 2019 17: 52 New
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              Fukushima Americans built if that.

              It's not about building, but about eliminating the consequences. NPP director Masao Yoshida saved the station from much more serious consequences, but he dared to violate the instructions of the company's vice president and received the highest rating for his actions - a reprimand. And hiring TEPCO through the homeless yakuza structures as liquidators is generally a song.
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              Quote: Greenwood
              Had this happened with us, the consequences would have been much more tragic.

              we had a flood in the Far East - forgot?
              Quote: Alexey RA
              It's not about building, but about eliminating the consequences

              exactly!
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              I lived in western Tokyo, the Suginami area.

              I lived in Tagasaki, everything is modest and cramped ... the hotel room is a kennel, and the cost is like 2 rooms in the USA ... request
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              sit out at work until late

              they just sit out for coffee and on the Web, leave late, after leaving the authorities, I was stunned by this mess ... bully
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              What terrible conditions are you talking about?

              1) that on Saturday they have voluntary-compulsory measures - such as studies or professional meetings ...
              if you work like this all the time, then burnout occurs ...
              2) you can’t deceive statistics ... request
              1. Greenwood 4 October 2019 14: 04 New
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                we had a flood in the Far East - forgot?
                We have floods every year. And drowns the same places. For many years they have promised to build a dam in Ussuriysk, and still nothing - "there is no money in the budget." And they had a tsunami with a wave height of up to 20 meters. The scale is different slightly.
                Quote: ser56
                everything is modest and cramped ... hotel room - kennel
                I did not live in a hotel, but in a student dormitory. The room is small, but there is also a kitchen and shower room with toilet and a washing machine. Everything is very civil. Remembering the domestic hostels in the university - the sky from the earth as they say.
                Quote: ser56
                price as 2 rooms in the USA ...
                How much did you pay?
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                they just sit out for coffee and on the Web, leave late, after leaving the authorities, I was stunned by this mess ...
                I don’t see the mess here. They are paid for all processing. In many of our offices, especially state ones, the same way people work late every day, sometimes even on Saturdays for half a day. And all this is free.
                Quote: ser56
                that on Saturday they have voluntary-compulsory measures - such as studies or professional meetings ...
                This is normal. Since childhood, citizens learn to benefit society and the country. For me personally, this is preferable to Friday and Saturday booze, like many Russians.
                Quote: ser56
                if you work like this all the time, then burnout occurs ...
                You can always combine business with pleasure.
                Quote: ser56
                2) you can’t deceive statistics ...
                Compare the conditions in which the average Russian works, then you will talk about the "terrible" conditions.
                1. ser56 4 October 2019 14: 34 New
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                  And they had a tsunami with a wave height of up to 20 meters. The scale is different slightly.

                  “As a result of the displacement of the rocks, the seabed was deformed with its rise of 7-10 meters, which caused several tsunami waves [11]. The first wave 4 meters high [12] reached the station 40 minutes after the main shock, and at 15: 35 came a second wave tall 14-15 meters [12], which exceeded the height of the protective dam, designed for a wave of 5,5 meters [12], and the level of the NPP site itself. "Is everything foreign is das collosal?" bully
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  How much did you pay?

                  about 150 bucks, 2 * in the limit ...
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  We have in many offices,

                  it means they don’t know how to organize work ... processing is rare in the USA, at 18-00 everyone ran away ... he worked ...
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                  For me personally, this is preferable to Friday and Saturday booze,

                  1) your choice, but Ford justified 8 hours a day and 2 days of rest ...
                  2) do not judge everyone by your friends ...
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  Compare the conditions in which the average Russian

                  what kind of beast is this? bully
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  then you will talk about "terrible" conditions.

                  1) I never wrote about terrible conditions, do not hang someone else's on me hi
                  2) what should I do, I will decide for myself ...
                  3) I have given birth and death statistics - will something reasonable from you?
        2. Vadim237 3 October 2019 22: 50 New
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          Russia has OTRK in the Far East, and there are also strategic bombers that can send 800 cruise missiles to Japan - the Japanese don’t, as some people imagine in their fantasies, do not want to commit suicide.
    2. tol100v 2 October 2019 20: 35 New
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      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      . Not to repeat the mistakes of the past.

      This is the most important thing! But the "variables" in this World have increased tens of thousands of times!
  6. Million 2 October 2019 08: 01 New
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    Preparations are underway for a new intervention, when “perestroika” begins in Russia in a liberal fashion.

    Yes, what liberals! It's time to forget these conditional divisions. Money rules the world! And the current government can sell the islands, because the budget will replenish (both state and personal) and the Japs will calm down for a while
    1. K-50 2 October 2019 17: 56 New
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      Quote: Million
      and the Japs calm down for a while

      Or maybe it’s better to rested? what fellow laughing
      1. Million 2 October 2019 18: 16 New
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        Yes, let them live. If only they would not open their mouths
      2. tol100v 2 October 2019 20: 39 New
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        Or maybe it's better to rest?

        This is too much"! But I'll bring sakura flowers to the grave!
  7. lopuhan2006 2 October 2019 08: 43 New
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    In Japan, the crisis is the idea of ​​a nation. They urgently need an incentive, at least a small war. Moreover, the Japs warms the idea that the whole world will support them, and it will be so !!! The legend of the aggressor is ready. China will naturally be on the side of the shopping mall, and it can be replaced. Nuclear weapons in the capture of two islands? Yes, we won’t, of course, but if the capture takes place quickly, then we’ll kill ourselves with both the Su-24 and Il-20, let’s cry for honesty and justice. And do not talk about planes or islands! They gave Ussuri and others, and here we will give for the good of the world. Our government will not want to lose money in offshore .....
    1. K-50 2 October 2019 17: 59 New
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      Nuclear weapons in the capture of two islands? Yes, we won’t, of course, but if the capture takes place quickly, then we’ll kill ourselves like with the Su-24 and Il-20,

      They will bomb everything into dust and the vigorous-loaf will not be needed if we are talking about two islands. They want more and actually get the yuppies. lol
      1. lopuhan2006 2 October 2019 21: 36 New
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        Everything is much more complicated than dust. In order to bomb it is necessary to fly there: 1. the number of missiles at the anti-aircraft missile launcher is of course ours and it will corny be knocked out by false targets. 2. They have mining and, accordingly, isolation of the region, we have a complete lack of mineral forces, 3. the number of airfields in the Far East is small. 4. The complete dominance of the Navy and Naval Forces of Japan over our Navy. 5. Airspace control unfortunately, not only by us over them, but also vice versa. No matter how scolded F-35, but he is already in service. So, that will be difficult to keep in a sudden attack, but they no longer need. Captured and held, and there the world community will be tightened. I hope and know that there are reasonable heads in the General Staff who are calculating this, but the reality is not in our favor.
        1. Grits 3 October 2019 12: 01 New
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          5. Airspace control unfortunately, not only by us over them, but also vice versa. No matter how scolded F-35, but he is already in service. So, that will be difficult to keep in a sudden attack, but they no longer need.

          Yapis have only fighter aircraft. Therefore, ours will focus on missile bombers. To do this, first the KR will demolish all the air defense, then they will take up the airfields. By this time, pulled up from the western direction of aviation in the Far East and begin to hammer long and tedious. Unfortunately, the Pacific Fleet in this business will be so hot that assistant. unless only submarines can decide something. But even that is not sure what is effective. Therefore - the Kyrgyz Republic and the videoconferencing - ours is all in such a conflict. This, of course, if you only deal with military facilities, without the rest of the infrastructure. And so - if it locks, then NPPs will immediately fall under the distribution
          1. lopuhan2006 3 October 2019 12: 18 New
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            These are already suggested options. Under Putin, no one will attack, this is a no brainer. But if there is a weak type of Medvedev, and even confusion then ...... Libya, Georgia are still hot examples, even Yugoslavia is forgotten. All hope that the real love for the homeland still remained with those in power, although not all.
    2. tol100v 2 October 2019 20: 47 New
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      China will naturally be on the side of the shopping mall, and it can be replaced.

      Learn the history and history of wars! China, like the whole of Southeast Asia, Yapov Hates! They have done too many crimes! Losses of China in the Second World War more than FORTY MILLION !!!! And that says something .........!
      1. lopuhan2006 2 October 2019 21: 16 New
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        Do not poke my nose into a story that, apparently, has not taught you anything! And what does the attitude of the Chinese towards the Japanese have to do with it? And Vietnam and the USA, Russia and Germany, Poland and Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and Israel, to continue? When it comes to greasy cake, all this goes by the wayside! And China warms the pens in the Far East no less than Yap. CAPACITIES: and when the billions of Japanese capital in the Chinese economy, what on the principles no one bothers. Do not insert your senile thoughts for they are stupid and insanely.
      2. Greenwood 3 October 2019 02: 49 New
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        China, like the whole of Southeast Asia, Yapov Hates!
        That is why 80% of foreigners who come to Japan as tourists and students to study Japanese are Chinese. lol Probably from great hatred go to join the Japanese culture.
  8. Amateur 2 October 2019 08: 43 New
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    Japan already has advanced armed forces, a powerful fleet that surpasses our Pacific fleet in conventional armaments

    1. Japan is located on the islands.
    2. Japan is forced to import by sea 99,7% of oil, 96,5% of gas, 100% of coal, 100% of metals.
    3. Japan exports by sea 98,3 of its products.
    4. Japan exports 60% of its food.
    Any sea blockade of Japanese waters, regardless of who will carry out the blockade (Somali pirates, North Korean submariners or green Martians) will lead to the inevitable collapse of the economy and hunger.
    Therefore, to protect Japan’s own sea lanes, a powerful fleet is needed.
    1. Sergej1972 2 October 2019 09: 34 New
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      Probably, Japan still imports rather than exports 60% of its food.
      1. Amateur 2 October 2019 09: 46 New
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        You are absolutely right! Sorry. Zapororted. repeat
    2. Nycomed 2 October 2019 20: 19 New
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      When they discovered America, it would be very surprising to know that Japan imports and exports goods "by land." Bravo!
    3. tol100v 2 October 2019 20: 54 New
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      Therefore, to protect Japan’s own sea lanes, a powerful fleet is needed.

      Therefore, it is necessary to explain to Japan that if it wants to preserve all THIS in integrity, then let it expel all military bases of the SGA from its territory and no one will touch Japan with a finger! And since she is a military vassal, then the first "greetings" will be for her!
      1. Amurets 2 October 2019 23: 16 New
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        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Amateur
        Therefore, to protect Japan’s own sea lanes, a powerful fleet is needed.

        Therefore, it is necessary to explain to Japan that if it wants to preserve all THIS in integrity, then let it expel all military bases of the SGA from its territory and no one will touch Japan with a finger! And since she is a military vassal, then the first "greetings" will be for her!

        Where did the Americans go? Everywhere they left their bases to control the territories left. The only state where this happened, EMNIP is Vietnam. Japan, like the rest of the Axis countries, was almost completely occupied and American bases remained in Japan, and no matter how the Japanese protest, the Americans will not leave these bases.
      2. Greenwood 3 October 2019 02: 55 New
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        Therefore, it is necessary to explain to Japan that if it wants to preserve all THIS in integrity, then let it expel all military bases of the SGA from its territory and no one will touch Japan with a finger!
        As soon as (if we suddenly assume such a development of events) Japan will drive the Americans out and become more independent, its military development will no longer be constrained by some kind of framework. She will begin the mass construction of warships, and along with aviation and missiles. Industry in the country is developed, as well as scientific potential. In the shortest possible time they will build a fleet worse than the Chinese. And after that they will begin to dictate their will to the neighbors.
    4. Greenwood 3 October 2019 02: 52 New
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      Any sea blockade of Japanese waters
      And who will carry out this blockade? How? In addition to its powerful fleet, Japan also has the support of the Americans, who will be right there. Arrange a blockade will not work.
  9. Vladimir61 2 October 2019 08: 44 New
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    It is hard to believe that Japan would risk taking a new adventure. The Japanese army is rearming, but Russia does not stand still, and the nuclear "triad" sober up anyone.
    Will pee on the "bonfire", no more.
  10. rocket757 2 October 2019 09: 01 New
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    Samurai revenge. Is Japan getting ready for the battle for the "northern territories"?

    not news to anyone. what measures to take that too excitable "calm"! the giraffe, in general, is more in the know, it is up to him to decide.
  11. Yrec 2 October 2019 09: 02 New
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    World War II was a good vaccine against aggression for Germany and Japan. After all, her action lasted 70 years. But, like any vaccine, it has its own validity period. With a certain frequency, vaccination must be resumed. You need to be aware of this and prepare syringes, injections and medical staff in advance. What we do.
    1. tol100v 2 October 2019 21: 00 New
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      Vaccination needs to be resumed at regular intervals.

      Only one question: Subcutaneous, or Intramuscularly? Although there are options: Intravenously, Orally and to the edge Anal! Is that just the Foreign Ministry to choose from this list?
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        in fact, doctors say “orally” and “rectally”.
  12. Operator 2 October 2019 09: 08 New
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    "Japan, following in the footsteps of the West, is ready to review the results of the Second World War"- No need to dramatize, the revision of the results will be the transformation of the Japanese islands into a solid Hiroshima / Nagasaki (with the exception of Hokkaido), that's all.
  13. Moskovit 2 October 2019 09: 54 New
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    There is, of course, a threat from Japan. But the buildup of military power is, first of all, the answer to China, with which there are territorial disputes and hard historical grievances. Especially from China. Older Chinese people will never buy a Japanese car, they won’t go to a Japanese restaurant - it’s driven into the subcortex. On Chinese TV there are constantly going on series about the war with Japan. And I saw there such shots from which the hairs stand on end. And it’s just the Chinese who showed how the Japanese were torturing the peaceful Chinese population.
    1. tol100v 2 October 2019 21: 08 New
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      older people will never buy a Japanese car, they won’t go to a Japanese restaurant - it’s driven into the subcortex.

      This is precisely noticed! Although it may copy the car!
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        The funny thing is that Japan is in third place in terms of trade with China. Even the second, because Hong Kong is almost China.
  14. faterdom 2 October 2019 09: 58 New
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    Always did not hide the point of view that if, for example, there is no such state as Saudi Arabia, we will only benefit from this, and no regrets.
    With Japan, this is not so.
    It seems not to be idlers, and could live. What, they do not have a calendar on the island?
    1. tol100v 2 October 2019 21: 12 New
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      It seems not to be idlers, and could live. What, they do not have a calendar on the island?

      As history shows, everyone has their own calendar! And from this it doesn’t become more peaceful! And now they began to rewrite the calendar of the Second World War!
  15. yehat 2 October 2019 10: 27 New
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    the author began with a hysteria about the Japanese, forgetting that there are much more of them, our government is clearing the entire territory of the country so that someone occupies it. Suppose the Japanese do not take anything, but then there will be Chukchi or Koreans or Chinese or Filipinos in the wasteland - an empty place someone will take.
    and instead of hysteria about the Japanese, the article was supposed to write about the economic and demographic, cultural situation of this region.
  16. Nestorych 2 October 2019 10: 46 New
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    Under certain conditions of might, Russia is now a pale shadow of the Union, even human resources are comparable ...
  17. Engineer 2 October 2019 10: 59 New
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    Obviously, Japan, following in the footsteps of the West, is ready to review the outcome of World War II in its favor.

    Tell me, while I was sleeping, in Russia legalized the grass?
  18. Stalnov I.P. 2 October 2019 11: 48 New
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    Stop playing with the Japs, those sitting in high chairs have already played, NO TERRITORIES, our fathers and grandfathers gave their lives for these areas not for you to dispose of. You can raise the economy and well-being of the PEOPLE and you can still trade in territories, all natural resources were crushed by rowing profits with a shovel. look at yourself well-fed and tanned, well-fed. This territory of RUSSIA, was, is and wakes up, remove your dirty hands from it.
  19. Alexey RA 2 October 2019 12: 22 New
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    In the 1930s, Japan resumed active expansion in the Far East. The Japanese elite had long planned the occupation of Manchuria. The Japanese Empire needed markets and sources of raw materials, a strategic bridgehead on the continent.

    The funny thing is that after the occupation of Manchuria, the Japanese industrial elite of the "Kwantung Group" discovered that they got a typical subsidized region. At least some profit went from him only ten years later.
    1. Amurets 2 October 2019 23: 58 New
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      At least some profit went from him only ten years later.

      Do you think it was better until the end of the 90s? Heihe now caught up with Blagoveshchensk, and then it was a dirty, backward village. This is now, when cross-border trade is underway and China is trying to implement the Far Eastern version of the Silk Road, the border cities of China began to develop. Chinese ships in the port of Heihe during the flood of 2013
      And to complete the picture: a comparison Blagoveshchensk and ehe for 50 years 1969-2019
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  20. Last centurion 2 October 2019 12: 55 New
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    There is no military solution to this issue. For in Japan, unlike other countries, there is a historical memory of the nuclear weapons used on them. Thus, with the threat of Russian statehood, the prospect of getting melted rocks in the sea is still the same for them.
  21. Axel 2 October 2019 13: 35 New
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    Stupidity. Excuse me.

    1. They say that not intentions are important, but abilities. Japan has THREE (!!!) landing ships, and the rest of the Navy is PLO and air defense / missile defense. That is predominantly defensive.
    2. And the government and people of Japan have long come to a consensus that they will enter the war only when they attack the country. By default, the United States enters the war. And in this case, everyone will not be up to some islands for sure.
    For obvious reasons.
    Therefore, I am very amused by the texts about the imminent attack of Japan, Norway, the Baltic states - without the US Army they will not go anywhere.
    1. Nycomed 2 October 2019 16: 31 New
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      And for one, count also the number of aircraft of the base patrol aviation of Japan. And compare with our number. Already sad?
    2. Alexey RA 2 October 2019 16: 43 New
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      And the government and people of Japan have long come to a consensus that they will enter the war only when they attack the country.

      Really? And why, then, in 2014, Shinzo Abe changed the interpretation of Article 9 of the Constitution, adopting a resolution on collective self-defense, according to which Japan can use the JSDF also in case of attacking countries with which Japan maintains close ties, as well as in case of serious the threat of such an attack. And in 2015, the Japanese parliament already allowed the use of the JSDF to participate in military conflicts abroad.
      Some kind of not so consensus is obtained ... what
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      Therefore, I am very amused by the texts about the imminent attack of Japan, Norway, the Baltic states - without the US Army they will not go anywhere.

      The Army will never fight for anyone! No profit! That's the whole story! Yes, and for yourself it will not be-saslyayu!
  22. Hort 2 October 2019 14: 17 New
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    Thus, in addition to propaganda propaganda of the population and diplomatic demarches towards Moscow (when members of the government visit the Kuril Islands or military exercises take place there, the Japanese elite no longer excludes a forceful scenario of the return of the "northern territories".
    the Japanese elite, first let the population provide their own with anti-radiation drugs in this case, and then bear the plans
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      the Japanese elite, first let the population provide their own with anti-radiation drugs

      And why do ash need anti-radiation drugs? what
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        well, suddenly someone will survive on the new atoll
  23. NF68 2 October 2019 15: 01 New
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    Few Japanese from the USSR got it. Now, if they had been smashed like the Germans during WWII, then, most likely, everything would have been different and the Japanese would have been quieter.
    1. Nycomed 2 October 2019 16: 27 New
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      That is, the Japanese, to start the "breaking" had to get to the Volga, only from the "east side"? Think sometimes about what you write. fool
      1. NF68 3 October 2019 14: 33 New
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        Quote: Nycomed
        That is, the Japanese, to start the "breaking" had to get to the Volga, only from the "east side"? Think sometimes about what you write. fool


        You also would not hurt to think first, and only then write. Where are the land forces of the Wehrmacht of the "model" of the 1941 of the year and where is the Japanese land army, which even could not cope with poorly armed Chinese.
    2. Alexey RA 3 October 2019 17: 59 New
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      Quote: NF68
      Few Japanese from the USSR got it. Now, if they had been smashed like the Germans during WWII, then, most likely, everything would have been different and the Japanese would have been quieter.

      It’s hard to break into someone who receives a surrender order after a week of fighting. And to the one who considers the best method of defense to "leave the screen, and the rest to retreat." smile
      The same 6 TA simply did not have time to deliver fuel to the advanced brigades, so that they could keep up with the Japanese.
      1. NF68 4 October 2019 16: 08 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: NF68
        Few Japanese from the USSR got it. Now, if they had been smashed like the Germans during WWII, then, most likely, everything would have been different and the Japanese would have been quieter.

        It’s hard to break into someone who receives a surrender order after a week of fighting. And to the one who considers the best method of defense to "leave the screen, and the rest to retreat." smile
        The same 6 TA simply did not have time to deliver fuel to the advanced brigades, so that they could keep up with the Japanese.


        All this was in 1945 year. But in 1941, the Japanese Imperial Army was still in a much better position than in the 1945 year, but the Wehrmacht was still not fit for a candle.
  24. tihonmarine 2 October 2019 15: 56 New
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    Japan is in the east. Moscow’s western and eastern “partners” are waiting for the moment of a new “turmoil” in Russia, when it will be possible to start sharing the skins of the Russian bear.
    Nothing just happens. The gun hanging on the wall fires once a year.
    1. Nycomed 2 October 2019 20: 23 New
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      There is only one twofold question: when and in whom? And one more thing: why?
  25. Nycomed 2 October 2019 16: 22 New
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    "Thus, having entered the war with Japan, the Stalinist USSR took historical revenge for the war of 1904-1905."
    And in 1904-1905gg. USSR existed?
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      And in 1904-1905gg. USSR existed?

      But Russia was. You must not forget your story. "Nobody is forgotten, and nothing is forgotten."
      1. Nycomed 3 October 2019 04: 57 New
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        Then, following your logic, do you have to make claims on Port Arthur? And how will our Chinese "friends" look at this?
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          Then, following your logic, do you have to make claims on Port Arthur?

          Port Arthur was only on lease. in both the 1904 year and the 1945 year. That then and then it was unnecessary to neither Russia nor the USSR. (See map and think.) That foolish money piled into these two ports a lot, but in vain.
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            Yes, with a fool. And in the CER also with the "fool". So maybe enough already?
            1. tihonmarine 3 October 2019 10: 30 New
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              And in the CER also with the "fool".

              Well, such idiocy could be expected only from the government of Nicholas II (Again say "look at the map")
  26. Undecim 2 October 2019 16: 29 New
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    Eka Samsonova threw! From the Masters of the West and to the Masters of the East. Well, how the hosts conspire and attack right away from the east and from the west! And there also the Masters of the South will catch up, those in general one and a half billion only taken into account, and how many are still unaccounted for! Only from the North there is not yet a clear danger, but this is temporary.
    In short - a country in the ring of evil Masters. It's time to introduce the Songun with Juche, as in the DPRK.
    Who needs this hysteria?
  27. Tolik_74 2 October 2019 16: 29 New
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    The Merigans, as always, are inciting everyone against the hated Russians. And the mattresses themselves are white and fluffy, they stick their nose in all countries.
    1. tihonmarine 2 October 2019 20: 47 New
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      And the mattresses themselves are white and fluffy, they stick their nose in all countries.

      They have chosen such a “purpose” for themselves since the time of Christopher Columbus.
  28. Pavel57 2 October 2019 17: 04 New
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    All applicants for the territory of Russia are waiting for the moment when our country sags, and then tear it to pieces.
    For this, they are arming themselves in such a case. though the gun can shoot in the second act completely and not according to the scenario.
  29. comradChe 2 October 2019 17: 30 New
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    Torn Tuziki heating pad, oh tear! It is painfully rotten. And keep the little caps on their heads, do not throw the adversary with them.
  30. K-50 2 October 2019 17: 49 New
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    NATO creates the infrastructure for intervention in Russia in the western direction, Japan - in the eastern direction.

    It does not even reach some fools that if Russia sees the danger in such a clash and the inability to parry it with conventional weapons, then it will strike a retaliation with nuclear weapons, because it is so written in the defense doctrine.
    Where after that everyone (in the form of ash) who wants to "pour salt under the tail of Russia" appears, then it is necessary to contact weather forecasters, so that they will predict a journey by the wind rose.
    1. bk316 2 October 2019 18: 32 New
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      To some crustaceans .... it will strike a retaliation nuclear, because as it is spelled out in the defense doctrine.

      To the crustaceans in general, little comes, for example.
      Japan is one of the few large and developed countries that will lose in any war quickly and catastrophically. Just crustaceans laughing do not know how to add two with three.
      1. Japan is completely dependent on shipments by sea. Moreover, the fleet is international. Who will go under the bombs on supertankers to this island when the war starts?
      2. Industry, transport and the population are crowded in Japan, perhaps more than in any other country. If any of you was in a Japanese city, think what will happen if it is not a nuclear bomb, but an ordinary thermobaric bomb.
      3. Japan is crammed with nuclear power plants and these nuclear power plants do not meet modern requirements for passive safety. Simply put, if you interrupt their electricity supply lines and destroy diesel stocks, they will all turn into Fukushima.
      4. The Russian Federation does not need neither MBRs nor medium-range missiles to operate in Japan; all these nuclear power plants are transportation hubs and plants at a distance of less than 1000 km and many at a distance of less than 500 km
      5. Not only the Russian Federation has many enemies against Japan, there are also many who have scores, and the PRC and DPRK will be happy if the samurai die.

      Enough or continue?
      1. K-50 2 October 2019 18: 40 New
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        Enough or continue?

        I just do not understand, do you think that I protect yupps? This comes to mind after reading your post. hi lol
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    Quote: K-50
    Where after that everyone (in the form of ash) who wants to "pour salt under the tail of Russia" appears, then it is necessary to contact weather forecasters, so that they will predict a journey by the wind rose.

    Here they’ll settle on your head.
  32. Prisoner 2 October 2019 19: 08 New
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    It seems that the self-destruction system has been implanted in Japanese genes. A kind of self-liquidator gene. Otherwise, why would they pull a beard on their islet of God? With modern weapons, they won’t even have time to make a salvo of their own. Drown to hell with the island. what
  33. evgen1221 2 October 2019 19: 39 New
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    IMHO, Japan will keep the West as an aircraft carrier-ramming base against China and us until the states weaken. Japan, unlike China, is heavily dependent on exports from the EU and the United States, even more so than China, which has fussed with Africa and us. Yapam has nowhere to sell their goods except for the West and, accordingly, the gateway and lever of pressure thereof in matters of withdrawing their bases from Japanese territory, but figs, get the bases out (nobody attacks Japan and thinks of it, the powerful military bridgehead and political influence of the West is lost in Asia, and he needs it? Here is a song about at the island ridge, therefore, it will be for a long time-withdraw Amer’s base, get the Yap-islands, maybe they would have gladly asked for the Amer’s exit, but figs there, otherwise they will give up in the economy essentially because of countermeasures from the West, so we won’t talk to them without withdrawing bases, China, too, in the end, everything will be with its own people and will also live in the same positions. Although I would try to sit in all the chairs of the Japanese, collecting buns from everyone, while respecting my neutrality, with guarantees of 3 parties regarding mutual non-aggression on the islands.
  34. pafegosoff 2 October 2019 19: 42 New
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    The Japanese have forgotten how many Hiroshima destroyers Russia has. And so a photograph of a floating target is encouraging our rockets and our crabs ...
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      The Japanese have forgotten how many Hiroshima destroyers Russia has.

      It’s just that Japan forgot who Her bomb was! And now she can’t get rid of Whoever Hers Her Milks!
  35. paul3390 2 October 2019 19: 44 New
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    No agreement === there is a state of war.

    What war if Japan signed unconditional surrender ??? How can we continue the war by officially capitulating ??
    1. Sergey Zhikharev 4 October 2019 14: 07 New
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      Most read only about "the USSR and Japan did not sign the peace, which means that there is a war." And about the act of surrender - formally the same war!
  36. Gnefredov 2 October 2019 19: 59 New
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    ... in fact, it was the war of the USSR against Japan that led to the appearance of communist China ...
    That is why a military parade in China begins with the removal of the USSR flag (more precisely, our flag is ahead of all the parade columns).

    Thanks to the author for the material! I read it with genuine interest.
  37. Proximo 2 October 2019 20: 28 New
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    Now, attention, the question is: if the author concludes correctly, will the population of our country defend the borders of our country as violently as the Red Army ??? Is there an idea that can push him to this? What to protect: Homeland ?, Aligarhat ?, our good "king" or his bad boyars? Or maybe their children in foreign universities? Few want to defend our reality today, this is the main preventive strike on our Motherland. With which I congratulate you all ...
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    WE are so small that we need PEACE with this island-Japan, why the hell if we ourselves do not want to.
  39. alexey alexeyev_2 2 October 2019 23: 51 New
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    Joseph Vissarionovich got excited. Hokkaido would have grabbed and we would not have had all this hemorrhoids under the name Northern Territories
  40. codetalker 3 October 2019 03: 55 New
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    The initial data in all these reflections are false. Japan is not a state. After the war, it is an occupied (USA) territory, which, on the basis of political considerations, was given a form of statehood. None of their actions are dictated by the interests of Japan. As for the negotiations on the Kuril Islands. Negotiations must be required. The US is dying of what will become of Japan after the death of its owner is not clear. And in Japan, among other things, there is also the Russian island of Matsmai (Hokaido). Conversations from the category "Prohibit negotiations on the Kuril Islands" felts from foolish felts from hatred of Russia.
  41. geologist 3 October 2019 07: 40 New
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    We all cherish for the territory, for square kilometers, pride and prestige, but forget about people. The outflow of the population from the Far East continues. The mines in Kavalerovo, on the instructions of an unknown one, flooded and many people moved to Izrail, Germany, the USA. From the Dalnegorsky district 10 thousand people left since the 90s all there too or to the south of Russia. There is no work, and if there is, then there is no salary. I'm not talking about shift workers on gold or oil, which are not so many, but about ordinary people - engineers, cleaners, saleswomen, etc., who get 10-20 thousand rubles, and for a communal apartment you have to pay 8-10 tons per month .
    1. protoss 3 October 2019 09: 15 New
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      and what to say about it? here you can’t dismiss a nuclear missile like a Jap.
  42. Ratmir_Ryazan 3 October 2019 12: 38 New
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    Kuril Islands - the territory of Russia !!!

    So that the Japanese do not get out there. Under no circumstances and under any promises should Russia give a centimeter of Russian land to Japan or to anyone else.

    All peace treaties are not built and the papers on which they are signed.

    Russia needs to develop both the Far East and the Pacific Fleet.

    And it pleases that this process is already underway.
  43. serg v zapase 3 October 2019 15: 38 New
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    Some points that the author claims are not clear: from which hangover the Japanese would have climbed into the USSR. A war on two fronts, this time. In Siberia then there were no resources necessary for the Japanese. What to grab? The second point: the author’s consideration of an alternative course of events - from which it was clear that the defeat of the Communists would take place, and it was not clear why China was bad if it was friends with the Yankees. Third of the twentieth century and a little twentieth! was friends and what? It’s unpleasant, of course, that the Japanese are arming themselves with offensive means, but much more unpleasant is the deflection of the Russian policy under the Japanese with a proposal to take the islands as a gift.
    1. Sergey Zhikharev 4 October 2019 14: 03 New
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      For example, oil on Sakhalin. This is certainly not good oil from Indonesia, but close by. Also lead, tin, (uranium - but this is so in perspective). Coal is enough in Manchuria, but it will not be superfluous. Plus (if you capture Sakhalin, Kamchatka, Primorye) you can catch more fish. To secure Manchuria from a blow from the USSR (if the Japanese control both banks of the Amur). This is so until December 1941. Then, the Japanese generals went a little roof, and they began to believe that they can capture everything that they can reach.
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        There an army of a million bayonets stood, it would be problematic for the Japanese to catch fish and pick mushrooms. Oil still had to be extracted and transported to itself, and this is a construction project not for one year. There would be much more trouble with the war with the USSR than the buns received.
        1. Sergey Zhikharev 5 October 2019 13: 08 New
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          So the Japanese before the war and tried, each time not successfully (Khalkhin Gol). But there were hopes that Soviet oil would fall into their hands (if the Germans won), and the Germans from the side in 1941 and 1942 were not so far from victory (and the Japanese had a shaft of victories).
          In general, the Japanese correctly calculated that China was more promising than the USSR, and climbed into it in 1937.
          (although the bummer of the Japanese was waiting anyway)
  44. Sapsan136 4 October 2019 02: 51 New
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    It’s time for Russia to remind Japan that, following the Yalta conference, Japan is obliged to transfer Hokkaido to Russia ... And in the event of a Japanese attack on Russia to strike at Japanese nuclear power plants, it’s not up to the Kuril Islands at once ... The Japanese army can capture the Kuril Islands, only then she will have nowhere to return, since Japan will cease to exist ... And if the Russian government merges the Kuril Islands of Japan, it itself will cease to exist in the Russian Federation ... It is no secret that if it were not for the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation, the GDP and the company would have been the level of late Yeltsin, and this is a political death ... many unknowns for the present inhabitants of heaven in the Russian Federation ... Draining Kuriles may cause and will cause RF wild indignation of the people, which can be over for the EP as well as for Nicholas Romanov ...
  45. yakisam 4 October 2019 10: 46 New
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    Everything is correct, but I don’t understand the surprised tone, the affectionate reasoning - I, the author, discovered that history is “revised” in Japan, oh, how unexpectedly and ugly ...
    And why should bourgeois Japan behave differently?
    And most importantly - what is strange is that the only time the interests of the Russian people were protected from the claims of the Japanese bourgeoisie and the military - this was done not by the "Russian" and not by the "Russian" government, but by the Soviet? This is completely obvious and not strange. The current government is as bourgeois as the Witte government ... Which decided to bury hundreds of thousands of Russian peasants for the financial claims of one group of the bourgeoisie to another. One would like to say - "All power to the Soviets." In the sense of workers, peasants and soldiers' deputies of workers ...
  46. paul3390 4 October 2019 14: 18 New
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    Quote: Sergey Zhikharev
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    Unconditional surrender (Eng. Unconditional surrender, US) - the widespread cessation of hostilities, the disarmament and surrender of all the armed forces of a capitulating state without any conditions.

    The state is deprived of sovereignty, its territory is occupied (the borders and territory of the state can be changed by the will of the winner), the supreme power is exercised by specially appointed persons on behalf of the victorious state (or coalition of states). At the same time, the winners (winner) determine the future political settlement, work out specific sanctions, types and forms of political and material responsibility of the defeated state, and decide on the prosecution of the main war criminals. A defeated state does not have the right to reject or not fulfill the conditions of unconditional surrender either at the time of surrender or after it.



    That is, formally - we can tomorrow appoint the Governor General to Japan, having dispersed the Japanese government to hell. And then drive as you wish. For since the peace treaty has not been signed, the conditions for unconditional surrender of 1945 are in force ...
  47. Molot1979 5 October 2019 16: 06 New
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    Well, they try to alleviate the pain in the ahedron with their tales - and to hell with them. Want to try to take the islands by force? And passing scrap to them in the back. But they don’t clap our ears either, they strengthen the islands. The main thing is to keep the powder dry. And to pay attention to all sorts of fantasies is pointless. We can’t sing everything, but the truth doesn’t bother them.
  48. Eugene (Eugene) 7 November 2019 11: 26 New
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    I wrote on the example of Europe and other representatives that they need to make a negative cult of the personality of a Russian person, so they want to go west. And the Japanese are no exception. Eastern "partners" in atrocities are not inferior to the Anglo-Saxons. And where Japanese business will have a free trade zone in the Kuril Islands, get ready, there will be bribes of officials, strengthened agents, a "polite" Japanese businessman looking in the eyes and figs in your pocket, so Japanese intelligence is interested in not building the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation. And provocations at the enterprises of Primorye with the help of their capital are also an option for the future. But at the same time politely conduct cultural meetings and swear on the friendship of Japanese business with the business of the Russian Federation. But there are other comrades there, their competitors in the struggle for our resources: China, Korea (southern), the USA, the English Crown, and they watch whether we go on leashes in front of the "partners" in other geographical coordinates or not, because for them it positive signal.
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      A positive signal for them. When they make concessions.
  49. Givi_49 24 November 2019 20: 50 New
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    We do not participate in negotiations on the outcome of World War II. Fathers and grandfathers did not tell us. If you really need let them come and take. I express my condolences to all the people of Japan in advance.
  50. Sergey Smirnov_3 9 December 2019 16: 25 New
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    It’s not enough to read the article.
    All the salt in the comments !! :))
    Thank you, it is very instructive and interesting to read your answers!
    Really, sometimes I learn more than from the article. And most importantly, vital information !!! Just do not swear :!)