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In Ukraine, a “politically correct” reconstruction of one of the events of World War II was carried out - the radicals are again unhappy

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In the Poltava region, local authorities decided to reconstruct the events of the Great Patriotic War. We are talking about the Soviet-American operation "Frantic" ("French"). The operation was carried out in 1944, when several airfields in the west of the USSR were provided to American bombers to strike at the Nazis. These are the airfields of the so-called shuttle approach near Poltava, as well as the cities of Piryatin and Mirgorod.




In Piryatin, then the Americans deployed fighter R-38 and P-51 escort bomber aviationand in Poltava and Mirgorod - B-17 and B-24 bombers. The airfields in the USSR were used by the Americans, including for landing after departure from other airfields - in Britain or Italy.

Considering the fact that “decommunization” and “desovetization” are continuing in Ukraine, the reconstruction of the events of 75 years ago turned out to be “ideologically” difficult.



The fact is that Soviet symbols are officially banned in Ukraine, therefore, the reconstruction of an air raid on one of the Soviet airfields featured mainly American symbols. For example, we are talking about the white stars of the US Army on military equipment.



However, especially brave reenactors nevertheless decided to be honest, even to themselves and in military uniforms, used the Red Army insignia - red stars in caps and caps, Soviet awards, etc.




Red stars once again attracted the attention of radicals, who have already begun to pour threats against the organizers of this seemingly even for Maidan Ukraine, “politically correct” historical reconstruction.
Photos used:
Information resource of Poltava
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  1. EDWARD
    EDWARD 23 September 2019 12: 26
    +9
    absurdity, in Ukrainian .. hard when there is no story. Well, they’d have done reconstruction as they rode on the Maidan. Amers, too, would have liked it.
    1. demo
      demo 23 September 2019 12: 29
      +7
      Absurd?
      Idiocy!
      1. Avis-bis
        Avis-bis 23 September 2019 12: 37
        +4
        Quote: demo
        Absurd?
        Idiocy!

        Idiocy? Nazism. Moreover, with a strong stench of militant insanity. If the Nazis built their policy on the basis of non-human, but, nevertheless, logic, then there is no more logic in Ukronazism than in "finter-quinter-toad" ("Golden Calf").
        1. demo
          demo 23 September 2019 12: 48
          0
          Nazism is a general definition.
          It is accompanied by manifestations that either border on idiocy or go beyond the scope of this definition.
          If I don’t like an event due to the participation of unpleasant personalities in it, then I will not reconstruct it!
          But I so want to please the "owner", so I want to "lick", to a mutual orgasm, that a way has been found.
          It's like showing films in which there are scenes where actors smoke (and some bears themselves do not smoke and do not give others) and cigarettes are jammed.
          Here's how to show Sherlock Holmes without a pipe?
          And not to say that he was drugged?
          Neither.
          But Ukrainians surpassed themselves.
          1. Avis-bis
            Avis-bis 23 September 2019 13: 55
            +2
            Quote: demo
            Nazism is a general definition.
            It is accompanied by manifestations that either border on idiocy or go beyond the scope of this definition.

            No ... Some external signs of Nazism and fascism look for a normal homo sapiens as the behavior of a not entirely adequate person, this is "yes", however, the Nazism of the Third Reich was extremely pragmatic and absolutely reasonable (they knew what they would do and how), albeit, of course, non-human in nature.
            And ukronazizm he is all some kind of hysterical-deranged, rabid-hysterical. Something like the Blotter Box from "Meeting Place ..." in the gang arrest episode. So, the cold Humpbacked there was an analogue of the Third Reich, and the hysterical Blotter - Ukronazism.
            1. Reserve buildbat
              Reserve buildbat 23 September 2019 17: 31
              0
              History repeats itself. The first time is tragedy, the second is farce. Current skakuasiya - that same farce. Pseudo-state with pseudo-language and pseudo-ideology.
              1. Avis-bis
                Avis-bis 24 September 2019 09: 07
                0
                Quote: stock buildbat
                History repeats itself. The first time is tragedy, the second is farce. Current skakuasiya - that same farce.

                That farce would not have been so bloody ... Evil clowns in power are scary.
            2. demo
              demo 23 September 2019 18: 21
              -1
              Well commented.
              I somehow did not look at it from that angle.
              1. Avis-bis
                Avis-bis 24 September 2019 09: 08
                0
                Thank. :)
                drinks
      2. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 23 September 2019 13: 21
        +6
        Quote: demo
        Absurd?
        Idiocy!

        Take it easy. Now Antares and Co. will come here and say that this:
        1.Kiselevskaya propaganda.
        2. Radicals in Ukraine are only 2%.
        3. This is a political order and PR.
        4. In Ukraine, the Law on the Prohibition of Symbols simply applies. Azov say? Well, there are pagan runes, etc.
        5.
        6.
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        1. demo
          demo 23 September 2019 13: 23
          0
          Let it come.
          He is a specific person.
          Do not pay attention to him.
          1. Nevsky_ZU
            Nevsky_ZU 23 September 2019 14: 01
            0
            Quote: demo
            Let it come.
            He is a specific person.
            Do not pay attention to him.

            At times it seems adequate. But often he simply has nowhere to go from the facts and adheres to the worldview of the Maidan under the sauce: "Well, if it happened, then .."
            Ignore Ukraine before the 2014 year, and especially Ukraine before the 2004 year.
      3. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 23 September 2019 14: 02
        +4
        Don't laugh at the "de-Sovietization" of Ukraine, the "de-Stalinization" of Russia carried out by Putin and Medvedev is no different from it ...
        1. your1970
          your1970 23 September 2019 18: 37
          0
          canceled and what? There is a current article of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation
          "Article 91. Concept of working time. Normal working hours
          Working time is the time during which the employee, in accordance with the rules of the internal labor regulations and the terms of the employment contract, must perform labor duties, as well as other periods of time that, in accordance with this Code, other federal laws and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation, relate to working time.
          (in the edition of the Federal Law from 30.06.2006 N 90-FZ)
          (see the text in the previous wording)
          Normal working hours cannot exceed 40 hours per week."

          and now carefully read the decree:
          Council of People's Commissars of the RSFSR
          DECREE
          from xnumx october xnumx year
          "ABOUT EIGHT HOURS WORKING DAY"
          "2. Working hours determined by the internal regulations of enterprises (clause 1 of article 103 of the Regulations on Industrial Labor - normal working hours) should not exceed 8 working hours per day and 48 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) hours a week, including the time spent cleaning the machines and tidying up the work area. "

          i.e.SUDDENLY!!!! -work saturday-justly .. and all under the Decree .....

          This decree did not work long ago actually - but was considered alive legally

          by the same decree:
          "11. In case of one-shift day work, the minimum duration of Sunday and holiday rest provided to each worker is determined in 42 hours. "- that is, not 2 days off (24 + 24 = 48) for 6 hours less belay
          There are many more similar nuances ....

          ZY everything as usual - heard - shouted: "AAAA !!! Help !!! They hurt !!" - but at the same time no one read - "Why is it really written there ???" ... and observations on guinea pigs (country 404) which does not regularly read (either they get thrown into thomas, then in the EU, then in what -not) - alas, it doesn't help much ...
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 23 September 2019 19: 41
            0
            Quote: your1970

            "2. The working hours determined by the internal regulations of enterprises (clause 1 of article 103 of the Regulations on Industrial Labor - normal working hours) must not exceed 8 working hours per day and 48 (!!!!!!!!! !!!) hours per week, including the time spent cleaning cars and tidying up the work area. "

            Ie - SUDDENLY !!!! - working Saturday, easily .. and all in the framework of the Decree .....

            This is for you - all of a sudden. And for the whole world - a six-day work week - the norm, without any suddenness.
            But what is the application of this "decree". If you believe the recollections of the old people, then on Saturday they worked without lunch until three o'clock, i.e. it's not eight o'clock.
            But what is the application of article 91 of the Labor Code in Russia?
            Quote: your1970

            Normal working hours cannot exceed 40 hours per week. "

            And not a normal duration?
            At private enterprises in Russia, who monitors, on a daily basis (!), Compliance with the Labor Code?
            There are no political commissioners at enterprises and trade unions. And they work there 12 hours a day and not always 5 days a week.
            If you're not lazy, take the Soviet Labor Code and the Russian Labor Code and compare. I guarantee you a "world of wonderful discoveries."
            1. your1970
              your1970 23 September 2019 21: 03
              0
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              If you believe the recollections of the elderly, then on Saturday worked without lunch up to three hours, i.e. no longer eight hours.
              -if believe their memories forgotten о
              “According to the submission of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR decides:
              1. To increase the working hours of workers and employees in all state, cooperative and public enterprises and institutions:
              from seven to eight hours - at enterprises with a seven-hour working day;
              from six to seven hours - at work with a six-hour working day, with the exception of professions with harmful working conditions, according to lists approved by the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR;
              from six to eight hours - for employees of institutions;
              from six to eight hours - for those who have reached 16-years.
              2. To transfer work in all state, cooperative and public enterprises and institutions from six days to seven days, considering the seventh day of the week - Sunday - a day of rest. "

              What was the use of the fact that the Type Decree was legally valid until yesterday? This piece of paper, which died before the Second World War, has long lost its meaning ...
              Like in an old bike — when the regiment commander before retiring unearthed an order from the pre-war era — that each commander of the military unit was put on a horse and checker upon dismissal. He requested it — since the order was not canceled, received, after which the order was canceled urgently ...

              The fact that TC is not respected is a completely different issue.

              Z.Y. and under the USSR, quite and easily, the covens plowed around the clock and did not give a damn about the dough for the Labor Code.
              Z.Y. The Labor Code not only studied, but even passed the exam in this direction ...
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 23 September 2019 21: 19
                0
                Quote: your1970

                from six to eight hours - for those who have reached 16-years.
                2. To transfer in all state, cooperative and public enterprises and institutions work from six days to seven days, considering the seventh day of the week - Sunday - a day of rest. "

                But what about the date of this decision?
                Quote: your1970
                The fact that TC is not respected is a completely different issue.

                Why is he different?
                1. your1970
                  your1970 23 September 2019 21: 31
                  +1
                  [quote = Krasnoyarsk] And what about the date of this decision? You modestly kept silent? [/ quote]
                  "June 26, 1940, and so what? What does this date give, besides - what does it mean when the Decree was already scored? When it turned out to be small and stupidly reinforced with a document?"

                  [quote = Krasnoyarsk] [quote = own1970]
                  [quote = sv1970] The fact that the TC is not respected is a completely different question [/ quote]
                  Why is it different? [/ Quote] - I remind you - The decree has ceased to be respected in the very deep USSR. He was buried by the Labor Code back in 1971:
                  "Article 42. Normal working hours
                  Normal working hours of workers in enterprises, institutions, organizations cannot exceed 40 hours a week... As the economic and other necessary conditions are created, the transition to a shorter work week will take place. "
                  Therefore, shouting that the decree was proclaiming something there is nonsense. It was turned over repeatedly, duplicated, changed back and forth. That is why he long ago lost all
                  your legal meaning.
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 24 September 2019 10: 01
                    0
                    Quote: your1970

                    "June 26, 1940, and so what? What does this date give, besides - what does it mean when the Decree was already scored? When it turned out to be small and stupidly reinforced with a document?"

                    And the fact that the leadership of the USSR was preparing the country for war. To prepare it was necessary to do a lot of things, there were no unemployed in the country, so we went along the path of increasing the length of working time. What is not clear to critics?
                    And in general, I do not understand what is wrong with the first decree? 8 hour slave. day was? - It was. Six day slave. week, as in the whole world, was? - It was. In the owls. time, I don’t remember which year, they introduced a five-day week with an 8-hour slave. in the afternoon. It was? - It was. What is wrong with you? If the administration of the enterprise asked the worker to go to work on Saturday, the worker was given a rest day at a convenient day for the worker. It was? - It was. What's wrong?
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 24 September 2019 20: 54
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      It was? - It was. What's wrong?
                      - So you still don’t understand, what’s wrong?
                      Let me explain.
                      The question is whether it exists - as a document having legal force. If the document is lost legal power is a monument of history, evidence of time, artifact ... nothing more ....
                      So, for example, the Criminal Code of the Republic of Ingushetia or the "Reich Citizenship Law" (of September 15, 1935) has no legal force - there is historicity and that's it ...

                      Now about the Decree.
                      The first time he was buried on 26.06.1940/1971/XNUMX, the second - in XNUMX, the Labor Code. It was turned from head to toe, everything changed in it: time, duration of the week, holidays and so on.
                      And it doesn’t matter in connection with what it happened and how it was in the world at that moment - that’s not the point.
                      On good terms, it should have been canceled back in 1940, but they were afraid, it sounded too beautiful: “Decree !!” All the more, they should have been canceled in 1971 - but they didn’t risk it either, or they simply scored. And it hung so ...

                      That is why it was canceled - as a document completely non-working back in the USSR. This process is not new - it was always in the country: the abolition of obsolete documents.
                      Already about the fact that, for example, in 1998 we removed from service as property of the signal troops "a two-wheeled cart on a bicycle ride for transporting carrier pigeons of 1928" - I am generally silent. We sneered at the communications battalion for a long time ...

                      ZY I would like shouting about "the bourgeoisie who canceled the Decree and forced to plow unrestricted hard workers !!" - to begin with, they would read it and find 6 working days .. against 5 current ...
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 24 September 2019 22: 57
                        -1
                        Quote: your1970


                        ZY I would like shouting about “the bourgeoisie who canceled the Decree and forced the workers to plow unrestrictedly !!” - to begin with, they would read it and find 6 working days ... versus the current 5 ...

                        Young man, you do not understand the meaning of the Law at all. For what reasons it is introduced and what purpose it pursues. As I understand it, the main thing for you is that all the formalities of entering and repealing the law at a strictly defined time be observed. And you are hysteria here only because you did not please your attitude to these formalities. You do not want to know at all why and for what purpose the law is introduced, how it is transformed over time (additions, changes, etc.) are made.
                        You ran into - "...6 working days ... against the current 5 ... "
                        For 6 slaves. days there were reasons. Yes, what to speak with you, only wasting time. Even if you pass the exam under the Soviet Labor Code, you still haven’t bothered to analyze and not to bias it against the TC and draw conclusions. Yes, we were taught better in the Soviet school.
                        ZY By the way, "5 of the present" are not the current ones, they are still Soviet ones.
                        And the current ones are a 10-12 hour slave. day. about which you modestly keep silent, this is often a lot of delays in paying salaries, this is a fucked-up right to rest, and much, much more.
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 25 September 2019 20: 57
                        +1
                        1)
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Young man,
                        belay they don’t want to register me in the military registration and enlistment office - they say that they’re still not fit for a call
                        2)
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        You do not understand the meaning of the Law at all. For what reasons it is introduced and what purpose it pursues. As I understand it, the main thing for you is that all the formalities of entering and repealing the law at a strictly defined time be observed.
                        - I do not care when, for what, and from what hangover the Law was introduced.
                        Everything rests on its applicability.
                        With the same success, you can take a passport of RI lol and say- "Yes, he is real !! only a little was added to it
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        additions, changes, etc.).
                        !! And so he fully confirms his personality !! "
                        On Decree NOT changes and / or additions were made (such as in the current Code of Administrative Offenses) - it was simply bypassed by issuing PARALLEL normative act. That’s all content The decree was buried even before the war. Yes, there was such a time - it was necessary to tighten, the war was on the threshold, etc., everything is clear. Only from such documents they made a fetish, which eventually rotted into dust. And the citizens of the USSR knew perfectly well that for show - the Decree, but in reality - the resolution of the Presidium. Then this duality ("as it should be for you or as in reality") was one of the reasons that led to the collapse of the USSR
                        Z.Y. You simply did not encounter this turbidity - it’s completely and died near the USSR back but not canceled by anyone
                        3)
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Even if you pass the exam under the Soviet Labor Code, you still haven’t bothered to analyze and not to bias it against the TC and draw conclusions. Yes, we were taught better in the Soviet school.
                        - at that time there was not only the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, but even the Russian Federation. It is difficult to compare with nonexistent belay ...
                        I don’t know about you - I was taught well in a Soviet school ...
                        4)
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        ZY By the way, "5 of the present" are not the current ones, they are still Soviet ones.
                        And the current ones are a 10-12 hour slave. day. about which you modestly keep silent, this is often a lot of delays in paying salaries, this is a fucked-up right to rest, and much, much more.
                        I already wrote that all this is a completely different question, not related to the Decree.
                        In the country of the symbiosis of capitalism / socialism - it can only be so ...
      4. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 23 September 2019 14: 54
        0
        Quote: demo
        Absurd?
        Idiocy!

    2. Mordva
      Mordva 23 September 2019 12: 45
      -1
      Or maybe not worth looking for something that is not? The American military "Willis" is the one that took part in the restitution, clearly from a private collection and the owner clearly did not allow to draw red stars on it for the sake of one episode in the reconstruction. and in the transportation of American soldiers. The Dekomization Act does not apply to the use of such symbols in museum expositions, thematic exhibitions, scientific and teaching aids, historical reconstructions.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 23 September 2019 12: 53
        +2
        Quote: Mordva
        and to paint red stars on it for the sake of one episode in reconstruction, the owner clearly did not give consent.

        Was it also impossible to stick paper ones?
        1. Mordva
          Mordva 23 September 2019 13: 26
          +3
          Would you watch the video first nothing to trust the word propagandists.In this reconstruction there was enough Soviet symbolism and technology. Bronivicek with red star, USSR flag ,and red stars on airplanes... But for some reason there is not a word about this in this propagandist's note, but the American willis noticed and dragged the ships of the ubiquitous "radicals"
      2. Avis-bis
        Avis-bis 23 September 2019 13: 59
        +1
        Quote: Mordva
        Or maybe it’s not worth looking for something that isn’t? American military "Willis"

        Actually, it's a Dodge-3/4.
        the one who participated in the restitution

        In what
        clearly from a private collection and the owner obviously didn’t allow him to draw red stars on it for the sake of one episode in reconstruction

        Or maybe, on the contrary, they forced / persuaded to repaint? How do you get such confidence?

        in the transportation of American soldiers

        Did they bring it with them in the B-17 bomb bay or on the P-51's external sling? Or, all the same, ours was provided to them?
        1. Mordva
          Mordva 23 September 2019 14: 23
          +1
          Quote: Avis-bis
          Or maybe, on the contrary, they forced / persuaded to repaint? How do you get such confidence?

          You watch the video first. At the very end american technique stands in a row. There you can see the inscription USA on her. There you can see the reenactors in American uniform ..
          There is also Soviet armored vehicles with red star - guard sign red stars on airplanes.
          But for some reason, the author of the article did not notice this ..
          1. Avis-bis
            Avis-bis 23 September 2019 14: 45
            +2
            Quote: Mordva

            You first watch the video.

            But I have nothing to do but spend almost 1/3 of an hour of my time to stare at the reenactors who wear medals and ceremonial shoulder straps on alert ... And there is no YUSA inscription on the photo.
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      3. Catfish
        Catfish 23 September 2019 15: 45
        +2
        Vova hi , this is not a Willys, this is a 3/4 Dodge, though also American, although the soldiers in it are clearly Soviet. And, yes, most likely you are right - the car is probably from a private collection and there was no point in repainting it for "five minutes". But the red stars were removed from the girls' caps completely in vain, any overkill except laughter can cause nothing. But at least this is how the event was held, and thanks for that.
        Incidentally,
        in restitution
        this word has a slightly different meaning and does not apply to this event.
        And one more question :
        decomization
        what does this word mean? Translate if possible.

        PS Interestingly, did they file the Soviet symbols on the DShK with a file? laughing
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          1. Catfish
            Catfish 23 September 2019 16: 56
            +1
            Or is it so hard to part with fakes?
            And why did you write this? I looked through the article and write a comment only in relation to what I saw, but there is no desire to surf the net and waste time. Sergey Avis-bis has already said this. Want to get to the bottom of the truth, health, your right, but labels like "fake lovers" should not be hung, they can bite in response.
            By the way, speaking of the stars on the caps, you seem to be right: they are clearly smeared over, and this is especially noticeable in the case of a lonely lady sitting in a Bofors chair.
        2. Undecim
          Undecim 23 September 2019 16: 49
          +2
          The fact is that Soviet symbols are officially banned in Ukraine, therefore, the reconstruction of an air raid on one of the Soviet airfields featured mainly American symbols. For example, we are talking about the white stars of the US Army on military equipment.
          The fact is that propaganda has become quite clumsy and has taken the path of direct deception and fraud.
          The ban on Soviet symbols does not apply to such events, so no one hid anything or cut down anything. The authors of the news "sawed down" the stars in Photoshop, constructing their own sketch.

          The network from this event is full of photos and videos, but it’s not enough time to watch the seething substance. The main thing is to twist the fan.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 23 September 2019 17: 06
            +3
            Personally, I have a strong impression that the Russian radicals are much more radical than the Ukrainian ones.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 23 September 2019 19: 47
              +1
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Personally, I have a strong impression that the Russian radicals are much more radical than the Ukrainian ones.

              Where without them? Radicals, they are radicals in Africa and on Mars.
          2. Catfish
            Catfish 23 September 2019 17: 08
            +1
            Vic, I already "figured out" the asterisks - photoshop, and wrote about it above. I also expressed my attitude, I understood about the "hamsters", but with regard to the "fan" - you are in vain. "And there is a hole in the old woman." laughing
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 September 2019 12: 52
      +21
      Quote: EDWARD
      absurdity, in Ukrainian .. hard when there is no story. Well, they’d have done reconstruction as they rode on the Maidan. amers, too, would have liked

      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 September 2019 16: 22
        0
        Well, and who will create the reconstruction of the Maidan, where Svidomo licked cookies like tsutsiki from Nuland’s hands.
  2. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 23 September 2019 12: 35
    +10
    You can rewrite history as you like. However, she cannot become another from this. And whoever forgets history is not a sin to remind. negative
  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 23 September 2019 12: 50
    -2
    Red stars once again attracted the attention of radicals who have already begun to pour in threats

    Yes, when all these "threats" like a boomerang, but no longer threats, but real will fly into their heads am
  4. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 23 September 2019 13: 02
    +1
    And why did they squeeze the reconstruction of ground combat, if in reality there was only an air attack?
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 23 September 2019 13: 33
    +1
    Shaw to say, the unclean devils made their nest there .... that's why he poses them from the correct and Orthodox symbols !!! They don't even need to be watered with "holy water", they are not childish because of one kind of OUR SHRINS !!!
    1. Warrior2015
      Warrior2015 23 September 2019 22: 14
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      devils unclean there made their nest .... therefore, it wrinkles them from the correct and Orthodox symbols !!

      Here from here please in more detail. Do you think the red star and other Soviet symbols of the Orthodox Orthodox? If that, look, from where and from what depths Comrade Trotsky and Co. took it.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 September 2019 05: 28
        0
        Quote: Warrior2015
        Here from here, please read more

        Especially after all divided, for especially scrupulous ....
        Quote: rocket757
        from correct and orthodox symbols

        For me, everything is OUR, the banner of the Red Guard, the banner of the Imperial Army, under which our ancestors performed feats !!! Banners, Symbols of the Russian army .....
        I am a Russian soldier and I do not divide our history into right and wrong, I do not divide our ancestors into right and wrong ... they behaved with dignity under any banner, so everything is CORRECT.
        And all the dividers for this or that .... yes they all went to .... forest, for example.
        Comprand?
  6. Piramidon
    Piramidon 23 September 2019 14: 01
    +2
    Quote: Mordva
    Military American "Willis" ...

    It seems that there was a Dodge WC-51, called "Dodge three quarters"
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      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 23 September 2019 17: 08
        +1
        Quote: Mordva
        And here is the Soviet bronivichik, who also took part in this reconstruction. On the tower there is a red star and the door has the GUARD sign. But why the author of the article did not notice him .. Why:? Maybe because then the propaganda article for inciting hatred would not work? )))

        And then this would spoil their allegations that all of Ukraine is 100% Natsik-banderlog. hi
      2. Avior
        Avior 23 September 2019 17: 24
        +1
        You're right. If you promise on a set of equipment and photographs, the equipment was provided by the Phaeton club from Zaporozhye, they usually use American identification marks on Soviet-made equipment, Soviet-Soviet ones. And I think it’s not so easy to assemble the equipment, it’s not so much as it was, it was also used.
  7. Aliken
    Aliken 23 September 2019 14: 15
    0
    People have burnt porridge in their heads.
  8. Astronaut
    Astronaut 23 September 2019 14: 19
    -1
    The "brothers" do not want to get rid of the Banderlog, they think that others should do it for them
  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 23 September 2019 14: 29
    0
    Well, what about ?! Serfs, glorify, panov. Without this, no way. America- ,, above all ,, :-)
  10. taiga2018
    taiga2018 23 September 2019 14: 30
    -1
    so they need-let the cowardly majority continue to grovel in front of the Bandera minority ...
  11. Chifka
    Chifka 23 September 2019 16: 01
    +2
    Judging by the photo, not only the reconstructors, but also the reconstructors turned out to be honest, and very nice, winked After all, they were not afraid in Soviet uniform, somewhere they found it ...
  12. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 23 September 2019 16: 09
    +1
    The fact is that Soviet symbols are officially banned in Ukraine,
    It is very interesting, but Hitler's symbolism appears in the "good works". So who fought with whom during the Second World War on the part of the Ukrainian SSR.
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    1. Rwmos
      Rwmos 23 September 2019 16: 37
      -1
      Only the Soviet airfield was - where did the American equipment come from? laughing So this is not a propaganda article, but you - paid
      1. demo
        demo 24 September 2019 10: 52
        +1
        Hammer in the name of the operation and read.
        The Americans at three airfields to a fig which dragged.
        Our airfield, our air defense, the rest is American.
  14. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 23 September 2019 16: 13
    0
    The article talks a little about something else. It's not about the number of red (Soviet) or white (American) stars, and not about whether they were presented in the necessary proportion. The fact is that any red star for ukronatsists is like a crucifix for werewolves and vampires. They cannot see it and begin to sprinkle poison.
    What is allowed to a madman is not accepted among normal people - right? And for non-brothers - exactly the opposite. It is customary to be ashamed of the red stars, but the generation brought up over the past quarter century is very happy if there is a Dido among the relatives, whose pitchforks drunk on the collective farm tractor. This is a fighter against hegemony and totalitarianism coming out (and the first step on the road to power!).
    1. Antares
      Antares 23 September 2019 21: 29
      -1
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      The fact is that any red star for ukronazists is like a crucifix for werewolves and vampires

      very strange, but the red stars were under reconstruction (de-communization does not prohibit)
      and that nobody shouted and evaporated ... poison did not come
      Maybe someone needs a different picture
      and they made the news not good - like the reconstruction of the Great Patriotic War --- but they gave the news to the mountain about how the Nazis in Ukraine are dissatisfied with something ???
      Moreover, reconstructions of the Second World War in Ukraine are regular.
      Okay though ... the propaganda should include "fascists" Nazis and other delights ..
      Ukraine should be .. otherwise everyone will remember about Russia.
  15. Rwmos
    Rwmos 23 September 2019 16: 36
    -1
    Yes, ideologically correct there - only parades of wiped SS (there were SS. And they wiped their boots)
  16. Avior
    Avior 23 September 2019 17: 20
    +2
    The article casts a shadow on the wattle fence.
    The law on the prohibition of Nazi and communist symbols does not apply to certain cases, including the reconstruction, this is specifically stipulated in article 3, paragraph 9
  17. Avior
    Avior 23 September 2019 17: 56
    +1
    It is unpleasant to read both the article and some comments.
    A reconstruction of the events of the Great Patriotic War took place, the memory of the heroic deed of the ancestors was preserved, but even here someone did not like the news from Ukratna, they began to compose all nonsense and suck it out of their fingers.
    The photos were carefully chosen so that there was no Soviet symbolism visible, the caps were all turned away from the lens, where it was not possible to pick up - a photo with a star drawn in photoshop on the cap on the girl’s cap.
    For some reason, it is unclear that the law banning Soviet symbols has a list of exceptions, and historical reconstruction is one of them.
    Moreover, Soviet symbols on Soviet technology are still visible.
    The fact that their symbolism is on American cars, and what is surprising? The airfields were organized and maintained by the Americans, there were many ground personnel and delivered a huge amount of cargo.
    The necessary heavy equipment and materials were delivered by sea to the ports of Murmansk, Arkhangelsk and Baku (from Iran along the Caspian Sea), and from there they were delivered to the designated airfields by rail. Light equipment and key personnel were delivered by military transport aircraft from the air base at Mehrabad Airport (Tehran). The amount of cargo was simply huge, since almost everything needed to be transported from the United States - from high-octane gasoline to collapsible metal flooring on the runway. In the course of difficult negotiations, the Soviet side obtained consent for 42 flights of transport aircraft in the framework of the preparation of designated aerodromes and - in the future - for 2 flights per week to provide for the American contingent.

    So the appearance there of American cars with American symbols is more than historically reliable.
    It is clear that there are problems with the organization of the technical part of such reconstructions, and the owners of the equipment will not allow it to be repainted to suit the mood.
    It’s embarrassing to read what they wrote, there shouldn’t be such articles on the reconstruction of the events of the Great Patriotic War at the Higher Military School, even if they had passed in Ukraine.
    hi
    1. Antares
      Antares 23 September 2019 21: 41
      -2
      Quote: Avior
      there should not be in the HE such articles on the reconstruction of the events of the Great Patriotic War, even if they had passed in Ukraine.

      why so
      Certain people like to read even about the reconstruction of the Second World War - about "fascists and Nazis" in modern Ukraine.
      They cannot live without it.
      Instead of the event itself, the main enjoyment is precisely this process.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 23 September 2019 19: 10
    0
    Reconstruction of the Maidan needs to be carried out, it would very well turn out.
  19. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 23 September 2019 20: 14
    -1
    - Could you love the radical?
    - For what?
  20. dinis
    dinis 25 September 2019 00: 10
    0
    These monkeys prohibit the symbolism under which the Ukrainians fought in World War II.