Ukraine overtook Russia in the restoration of Mi-14

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Mi-14 is well-established in the domestic air navy a machine that proved to be both during search and rescue activities, and when detecting enemy submarines. However, while the question of returning an amphibious helicopter to operation is being resolved in Russia, supplies of this equipment are already underway in Ukraine.





According to a report by the Ministry of Defense, the repaired Mi-2019PCH anti-submarine helicopter will be handed over to the 14th Marine Brigade by the end of 10 aviation. They revive it at the facilities of the Konotop Aircraft Repair Plant Aviakon.

After the seizure of the Sevastopol Aircraft Repair Plant by Russian occupiers, this enterprise mastered the repair of Mi-14 helicopters. Until now, the repair of helicopters of this type took place only in the Crimea

- said in a statement to the military department.

It is alleged that the Mi-14HR undergoes not only major repairs, but also modernization. Based on the results of the work performed, the helicopter will be equipped with a weather radar, multifunctional navigation and communication equipment, a navigation indicator, new intercom systems, an icing warning device, a compass, special antennas and other equipment.

Mi-14HR is an anti-submarine model that can both destroy submarines (with bombs and torpedoes), and designate the zone of their presence (radio-acoustic buoys) for third-party weapons.

In the 2017 year, one of the Mi-14PChs was already seen in flight, which was taken out of the Crimea after its reunification with the Russian Federation. Staying on the peninsula, he was inoperative. Moreover, in Russia all vehicles of this type are withdrawn from service. Ideas are periodically voiced to return them into operation. But so far, in this matter, Ukraine is ahead of its neighbor, that is, Russia.
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  1. +21
    12 September 2019 10: 50
    Well, what for we are of this antiquity, ukram it’s clear that they have nowhere to go and need more, and we need to move on without looking back.
    1. +22
      12 September 2019 10: 55
      Yes, they have, as it turned out, in the amount of as much as one unit! Catch up and overtake! fool
      1. +8
        12 September 2019 13: 24
        Sumerians can! ))) They dug up the Black Sea, and the armored cars out there are doing what Lenin had)))
        1. +7
          12 September 2019 16: 20
          Quote: krot
          and what armored cars do

          This why they do such armored cars? Yes, because they still didn’t have a compass on rotorcraft - that’s the trouble .... And now, with the compass, they’ve dug the sea knee-deep wassat
          According to the results of the work performed the helicopter will be equipped weather radar, multifunctional navigation and communication equipment, navigation indicator, new intercom systems, icing warning device, compassspecial antennas and other equipment.

          This is all sarcasm, but the potential, which has not yet been completely lost and stolen, allows the ex-brothers (while securing funding) not only to restore and upgrade obsolete rotorcraft, but also to create almost all types of modern weapons. The problem is also that secrets and brains from this territory are now spreading around the world, from China and the USA to the Mumba / Yumba tribe - if only they would pay and finance ...
          And this is a SOVIET design school, i.e. brains work in a parallel direction, some schools graduated, studied at some universities, in some design bureaus sat and solved problems together.
      2. 0
        14 September 2019 09: 25
        Quote: Fedor Sokolov
        Well, what for we are of this antiquity, ukram it’s clear that they have nowhere to go and need more, and we need to move on without looking back.

        The headline cretinism is off the charts. I would not be surprised if it turns out that Russia is behind the Ruins in the production of slingshots and other throwing tools invented in ancient China.
        Russia has a family of chilled-out Kamov-class helicopters. Which perform anti-submarine and other functions at a higher level.
    2. +11
      12 September 2019 10: 55
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      without regard to the past.

      Without looking back, this is when we learn to create a new one ourselves!
      Of course, it is as if we learned, we do, but not everything and not everywhere ... the Soviet backlog will be able to help us more than once!
      1. +11
        12 September 2019 11: 00
        The Soviet backlog is of course very important, but it is not unlimited, so you need to learn to develop aviation yourself based on modern needs and military threats.
        1. +17
          12 September 2019 12: 33
          Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
          The Soviet backlog is of course very important, but it

          The state of Ukraine is just "Soviet groundwork".
          Why don’t you love your country so much?
          In principle, you confirm that Ukrainians are part of our people.
          You behave the same way with the Ukrainians - you deny Russia. Pour mud on Russia.

          Meanwhile, Russia has existed for a thousand years.

          Ukraine has existed for 30 years. The USSR lasted twice as long as the Ukrainian state - 70 years.

          The people who created the "Soviet groundwork" are residents of the Russian Empire - USSR - Russia.
          People (you and I) survived the rulers of various stripes, survived the division of our country in the 17th and 91st years.
          People (we are) created in the Russian Empire and in the USSR and in the Russian Federation.
          We have one country!

          Get out already from under the baseboard, so you yourself are driving yourself there.

          Lomonosov, Menedeleev, Popov - Russian scientists. Scientists and engineers in the USSR did not come from scratch and did not crawl out of the volumes of Marx and Lenin.

          Your idols Lenin and Stalin were born and educated in the Russian Empire.

    3. +16
      12 September 2019 10: 55
      But is there anything to replace this antiquity?
    4. +16
      12 September 2019 10: 56
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      Well, what for we are of this antiquity, ukram it’s clear that they have nowhere to go and need more, and we need to move on without looking back.

      Then about AK, MTLB, BMP-1/2, BTR-80, T-72, Mi-8/24, Su-27, MiG-29 can also be said ...
    5. +20
      12 September 2019 10: 58
      Propaganda article, given that they have this
      Is the Mi-14PCH almost in a single copy and flies, and at that time, what are the numbers for the annual release of new helicopters in Russia? I'm not talking about the experimental lamp of a new generation of Lamprey. And who is the clumsy neighbor? With this approach, you can say about the repaired in Russia An-124-100 and say about the slow Ukraine.
      1. +12
        12 September 2019 11: 08
        The question is not about ukrov, but about us! We now have something helicopter, waterfowl ???
        Shaw there for MINOGA? Does she exist or does not know how long to wait for her?
        1. +3
          12 September 2019 12: 12
          Ukraine overtook Russia in the restoration of Mi-14

          What will happen to us all now ...
          1. +5
            12 September 2019 12: 34
            Quote: figvam
            What will happen to us all now ...

            One thing is certain: we will not be the same. Never. wassat
          2. +2
            12 September 2019 15: 36
            Tryndets will be for you. Everything goes to this. Because of how you lost everything Russian. Only "Russian" remained. And as they say in Odessa, there are two big differences.
            1. +2
              14 September 2019 09: 40
              Quote: Seeker
              Tryndets will be to you. To this everything goes. Because. As you have lost everything Russian.

              Who are you? No generalizations needed. Write specifically about yourself that you have lost everything Russian. If you had it of course. And our guys in the same Syria, in the Donbass, too, prove that they did not lose anything Russian.
              1. +1
                14 September 2019 10: 21
                Quote: Nick
                Quote: Seeker
                Tryndets will be to you. To this everything goes. Because. As you have lost everything Russian.

                Who are you? No generalizations needed. Write specifically about yourself that you have lost everything Russian. If you had it of course. And our guys in the same Syria, in the Donbass, too, prove that they did not lose anything Russian.

                We just became, as in, in several "layers"!
                There is a metro sexy metropolitan, urban, and there is everything else that has not changed much!
                In short, where and how to look, search! By the way, in capitals, too, not everything is unambiguous and the same, as elsewhere, however.
                Who wants to really understand, he will quickly understand that we are the same "Asians-barbarians" that we have always been!
                Those who understand this do not creep into us, shit from afar, and to whom such a simple truth does not reach ...... they are worse!
          3. +2
            12 September 2019 21: 24
            Quote: figvam
            What will happen to us all now ...
            But nothing! From harmfulness they will merge water from the Black Sea!
        2. +4
          12 September 2019 12: 16
          Quote: rocket757
          The question is not about ukrov, but about us! We now have something helicopter, waterfowl ???

          And do you need to be able to swim anti-submarine helicopter? Why are you not satisfied with the Ka-27?
          1. +1
            12 September 2019 13: 00
            Quote: Piramidon
            And do you need to be able to swim anti-submarine helicopter? Why are you not satisfied with the Ka-27?

            Not about that. The question is about those that land on water, such as amphibians.
            1. +3
              12 September 2019 13: 30
              Quote: rocket757
              The question of those that land on water, such as amphibians

              So I wanted to know why this is necessary?
              1. +1
                12 September 2019 13: 56
                Did, use the military and rescuers. Not refused yet .... they know better.
                1. +4
                  12 September 2019 14: 05
                  Quote: rocket757
                  used by the military and rescuers. Have not refused yet

                  Our military refused him, removed from armament. Those cars that remained limitedly used, mainly the Ministry of Emergencies hi
                  1. +1
                    12 September 2019 14: 07
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Our military refused him,

                    We have refused a lot of things .... but something is already coming back. The reasons are different.
                2. 0
                  12 September 2019 14: 55
                  Very little use. And basically like the same Mi-8.
        3. -2
          12 September 2019 12: 19
          No one in the world has a floating helicopter. There is an opinion that this is because nobody needs it.
          1. +3
            12 September 2019 12: 59
            Quote: mmaxx
            No one in the world has a floating helicopter. There is an opinion that this is because nobody needs it.

            Are you sure? And the helicopters of Sikorsky "Pelican" and others like that where have gone ???
            1. +4
              12 September 2019 14: 27
              And?
              This helicopter belongs to the same generation. And where is he alive now? How many?
              What kind of excitement can such a helicopter withstand? How much excess weight does he carry? This is definitely more expensive than usual and worse.
              I saw the Chinooks of American specialists taking seals right on the boat into the cargo compartment. Well, such a niche. Neither the Mi-14 nor the Pelican will pass such a number.
              There was a concept. Some cars were made under it. Then they refused. All. Like a wing with variable geometry.
              1. -1
                12 September 2019 14: 49
                Amphibious helicopters were, are, but will they be ??? a question to departments in which such technology has found application.
          2. +1
            12 September 2019 15: 20
            Quote: mmaxx
            No one in the world has a floating helicopter. There is an opinion that this is because nobody needs it.

            That's how it is! It is a pity only the Chinese, Americans, small-shaven and maple syrup lovers do not know about this ((otherwise they would be very surprised ...
          3. +1
            13 September 2019 01: 21
            Well, yes, only we had ekranoplanes and the missiles in the cars were ready for use, so it’s not easy to repeat, and the absence of the presence of others is not an indicator at all
        4. 0
          12 September 2019 16: 40
          Quote: rocket757
          Does she exist or does not know how long to wait for her?

          talk about a new marine helicopter fifth generation for the Russian Navy stubbornly with 2009 years. Information about him in various sources is very contradictory and are apparently related to the secrecy of development and production.


          Perspective deck helicopter Ka-65 Lamprey, at the stage of development work, appeared in photographs from social networks. On them, the body of the first prototype of this machine is in a disassembled state, and the helicopter itself is, apparently, in the workshop of the Scientific and Technical Center Kamov.
          June 4, 2019 https://topwar.ru/158710-v-seti-pojavilos-foto-perspektivnogo-palubnogo-vertoleta-minoga.html
          Development of the helicopter began in 2015 year. In the 2016 year, it was reported that the development of a new helicopter could take up to 10 years.
          July 23, 2019 https://topwar.ru/160448-novyj-morskoj-vertolet-ka-65-minoga-poluchit-arkticheskuju-versiju.html
        5. 0
          14 September 2019 09: 33
          Quote: rocket757
          The question is not about ukrov, but about us! We now have something helicopter, waterfowl ???

          Why do we need it?
          Quote: rocket757
          Shaw there for MINOGA? Does she exist or does not know how long to wait for her?

          According to the plan in the 2027 year to replace the Ka-27
      2. +7
        12 September 2019 11: 10
        The author, with a little thought, the word clumsy removed from the article. I forgot from the announcement.
      3. +1
        12 September 2019 17: 33
        Propaganda article ....

        More like a fan dash ....
        And yet he reached the goal. The people got excited.
        Although there is nothing special to discuss. crying
        Impartial Wikipedia reports that Outskirts have only 4 Mi-14s.
    6. 0
      12 September 2019 11: 02
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      and we need to move on without looking at the past.

      Where to go further then laughing , you suggest to run away without looking back .. they came running .. without the Soviet reserve, there would have been no military-industrial complex. Nothing new has been invented, all that is new is Soviet developments .. So, without looking back, it’s into the abyss ..
      1. 0
        12 September 2019 11: 10
        Quote: Svarog
        Nothing new has been invented, all that is new is Soviet developments ..

        In order to have reason to make such statements, you need:

        - thoroughly know all the "Soviet developments"
        - thoroughly know what is available now.

        To do this, you must be:

        - either by a supervisor with a higher tolerance
        - either a large American spy

        Svarog, are you one of them? wink
        1. +9
          12 September 2019 11: 24
          - thoroughly know all the "Soviet developments"
          - thoroughly know what is available now.


          Or live in a large industrial center that used to produce "defense". And to look at the state of the factories according to the announcements "such and such a salary is required." You do not need tolerances and knowledge to compare the flow of workers at checkpoints before and now. And the planes taking off from the factory airfield, and echelons with armored personnel carriers from the car factory .... Or are they "invisible" now laughing
          Someone in Stalin's time said - "You can make an airplane, make aviation much more difficult." Where is the industry?
          1. +9
            12 September 2019 11: 53
            As for the aircraft.
            Quote: dauria
            rising from the factory airfield,

            I have been in Kaliningrad (region) since the 98th. And about 15 years old, I watched the remnants of former power. In the form of abandoned military units and rusting equipment. About planes, generally silent. And only recently, the movement began. Now that they’re not flying, something is missing.
            It's me, why ... It was very bad, it got better, there is hope that it will be very good.
          2. +1
            12 September 2019 12: 02
            Quote: dauria
            Or live in a large industrial center that used to produce defense industry ...

            There is not one such center. Word "all", which the wrestlers like to use so much, implies that, according to your logic, they live simultaneously in all these centers.

            I always said that the quantifier of generality in statements is absolute evil laughing

            Quote: dauria
            No tolerances and knowledge needed to compare the flow of hard workers at checkpoints before and now

            The conversation was about quality, not quantity available now in comparison with that available at the Union. Be careful, please.
            1. 0
              12 September 2019 15: 13
              The conversation was about quality, not quantity


              Enough to direct the shadow to the fence. When the purchases of airplanes for the year barely correspond to the monthly Soviet ones, it means that the parent factories "canned" at best (because they were not allowed to take them away), the personnel - to sell trousers on the street, and subcontractors - to private hands and tryndets. Warehouse of barrels "Lukoil", rent of space and, as a result, a construction site for the shopping and entertainment center or housing estate "Dandelion"
              And the quality is yes, TVs have become flat, and phones are "mobile" laughing
              1. +1
                12 September 2019 22: 56
                Quote: dauria
                Enough shadow on the fence

                Exactly. The conversation began with the following:

                Quote: Svarog
                ... without the Soviet reserve, the military-industrial complex would not exist at all. Nothing new has been invented, all that is new is Soviet developments ..

                There is not a word for quantity, a conversation about qualitative changes.

                I understand that yours is boiling, but nevertheless, what you are trying to say here is beyond the original presentation of Mr. Svarog, with whom I personally fundamentally disagree and which, in fact, I am trying to challenge, ahem. Dixi hi
          3. 0
            14 September 2019 09: 50
            Quote: dauria
            Or live in a large industrial center that used to produce "defense". And to look at the state of the factories according to the announcements "such and such a salary is required." You do not need tolerances and knowledge to compare the flow of workers at checkpoints before and now. And the planes rising from the factory airfield, and echelons with armored personnel carriers from the car factory.

            Previously, the Air Force had tens of thousands of combat vehicles, now a few hundred are enough. It's just that the combat potential of aircraft and weapons has increased tenfold. And the tasks have changed. Therefore, it is inappropriate to compare "Now" and "Before".
        2. +7
          12 September 2019 11: 31
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Svarog, are you one of them?

          bully
          Mikhail ZADORNOV
          Document No. 1. Explanatory letter

          “I, foreign intelligence agent, John Kaif. Born on the instructions of the CIA. I have perfect command of fourteen languages, telepathy, yoga and karate, Nanai wrestling, judo and judo, I can seduce women from a distance, I photograph with my left eye, I show microfilms in my right, I shoot helicopters and carcasses with spitting, I shoot from any button, moreover, of all four holes at once, I can cause earthquakes, tsunamis and taxis by force of will. ........
          But a year ago, I got my main and, unfortunately, final task - to sneak into your country, transfer to a tram and, getting under the guise of a young specialist, find out how many people work at the research and development institute VTsIRCHERMETBREDBRAKMRAKSNABSTYSbyT3AGRANPOSTAVKA and what they produce. The first week I was not assigned any work as a young specialist! Then I slowly began to ask employees about what they are designing. In response, they only shrugged their shoulders and asked: “Why should you? A spy, or what? ”
          1. -2
            12 September 2019 11: 38
            what's so funny about the news? the defense is strong near the outskirts, trying to survive, what's wrong? turntables are generally their subject, and the rocket industry ... why crank it up then?
            1. +1
              12 September 2019 11: 50
              Quote: Dead Day
              turntables are generally their subject, and the rocket industry ...

              Thanks for the reminder, I know how their specialists moved to us, but to China Yes
              NOTHING, acre of agriculture and harmful industries Ukraine will not leave. hi
            2. +10
              12 September 2019 11: 58
              Quote: Dead Day
              turntables generally their topic

              Ahhh ?!
              1. -2
                12 September 2019 12: 35
                Quote: Avis-bis
                Quote: Dead Day
                turntables generally their topic

                Ahhh ?!

                what?
                1. 0
                  12 September 2019 14: 19
                  Quote: Dead Day
                  Quote: Avis-bis
                  Quote: Dead Day
                  turntables generally their topic

                  Ahhh ?!

                  what?

                  Yes, "no cho". Talk to your doctor about drugs that reduce hallucinations.
            3. +3
              12 September 2019 12: 35
              Quote: Dead Day
              turntables generally their topic

              Please remind me about Ukrainian turntables. What have they developed there, if it's "their theme"?
              1. +2
                12 September 2019 12: 36
                Quote: Piramidon
                Quote: Dead Day
                turntables generally their topic

                Please remind me about Ukrainian turntables. What have they developed there, if it's "their theme"?

                let's pick you sore on the engines? the norm? but I can still missiles ... necessary?
                1. +9
                  12 September 2019 13: 46
                  You probably do not know, but in the USSR there was no complete cycle anywhere. Somewhere the local share is higher, somewhere completely spare parts and accessories, but 100% from and to - nowhere. This was done on purpose and production was scattered in different corners of the country. GTE - this is not a helicopter and does not corvette.
                  1. +1
                    12 September 2019 14: 20
                    Quote: g1washntwn
                    GTE - this is not a helicopter and does not corvette.

                    Useless. There is insanity in full growth.
                2. +4
                  12 September 2019 14: 22
                  Quote: Dead Day
                  let's pick you sore on the engines? the norm?

                  Is a helicopter limited to one engine? In this case, Ukraine should have been a leader in the production of helicopters among the countries of the former USSR. But for now, all we see are the next versions of the Mi-2:

                  And what a mighty fleet Ukraine would have ("Zorya-Mashproekt").
                3. +4
                  12 September 2019 18: 35
                  Quote: Dead Day
                  let's pick you sore on the engines

                  Pick it up on the turntables themselves. You are announcing like turntables - that's all! It is necessary to write so that their theme is engines, not turntables.
            4. pm4
              0
              12 September 2019 21: 58
              Is Red October their theme too?
          2. +1
            12 September 2019 13: 15
            Before Zadornov, Khazanov had something similar.
            1. 0
              12 September 2019 13: 48
              Quote: garri-lin
              Before Zadornov, Khazanov had something similar.

              Author Zadornov Yes
              1. 0
                12 September 2019 14: 55
                Quote: Dym71
                Author Zadornov

                I don’t know who the author is, but I read it back in 80. In a crocodile like. recourse
        3. -2
          12 September 2019 13: 27
          Quote: Cat Man Null

          In order to have reason to make such statements, you need:

          You don’t need .. enough information in open sources, there are advances in materials, and everything else is the work of Soviet engineers .. At the same time, you can still look at other sectors of the economy and industry and everything becomes clear .. What a breakthrough achievement, over the past 20 years has our science made? Do not work, they are not there, as are sciences .. Examples of emigrants do not count. The same superjet is not ours at 70%, and the MC-21 stood up immediately, as sanctions were imposed on composites ..

          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - either by a supervisor with a higher tolerance
          - either a large American spy

          Svarog, are you one of them?

          Whose cat are you waking up to? Chubais, Sechin? maybe ... himself .. HIS? wassat
          1. +2
            12 September 2019 14: 34
            Quote: Svarog
            No need .. enough information in open sources

            There is no and cannot be information in open sources about everything. You write:

            Quote: Svarog
            New nothing not invented all , what's new is Soviet developments ..

            It's ... too bold, to put it mildly Yes

            Quote: Svarog
            At the same time, you can still look at other sectors of the economy and industry ...

            What for? Talk about the military-industrial complex. Both in the USSR and now the military-industrial complex is a very separate kitchen ... let's still not interfere with flies with cutlets, hop? wink

            Quote: Svarog
            Whose cat are you waking up to?

            Hmm ...

            1. I do not wake anyone.
            2. I am my own, walking on my own.
            3. The question was still asked to you - who are you - a great boss or an Amerian spy. Or are you from God's chosen ones? laughing
      2. 0
        12 September 2019 14: 05
        To begin with, it would be nice to restore at least part of the past ..
        Atom, rockets are still the merit of the times of Stalin and Korolev, tanks / planes / helicopters - Soviet .. the fleet is Soviet .. there was .. All sorts of Kalash and others like them, along with cartridges from the same place .. even the S-400 also originates from the early 90s, not to mention the fact that the "System" itself is a Soviet experience in its purest form .. all sorts of deep-sea vehicles Mir, space stations, and so on, so on, so on .. really existed or exists to this day day..

        But from really new, but "there are" such unreal wunderwaals as Armata or Petrel .. you can also include some Angara in this list ..
        So you can compare ..
    7. +6
      12 September 2019 12: 03
      Ukraine overtook Russia in the restoration of Mi-14

      Stupid little article, even AFFtora I can assume
      Russia produces Ka-52 and Mi-28. And they write about Mi-14 to us tongue
    8. +1
      12 September 2019 13: 10
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Well, what for us this antiquity

      You know how other "antiquities" are so needed, the same Tu-95, Be-12 and this machine would not be very hindered, especially considering that it can splash down, and therefore save people at sea
      1. 0
        12 September 2019 13: 49
        In 2004, PS was put into sedimentation tanks. Now they want to resume the production of new ones. Probably in the wake of the fact that it is planned to make its own gas turbine, and the old ones will no longer be modernized under the new engine.
      2. -1
        14 September 2019 09: 59
        Quote: svp67
        You know how other "antiquities" are so needed, the same Tu-95, Be-12

        The keyword is OTHER, but not Mi-14.
        1. 0
          14 September 2019 12: 16
          Quote: Nick
          Keyword OTHER

          no, the key here is: "also needed"
          1. 0
            14 September 2019 15: 36
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Nick
            Keyword OTHER

            no, the key here is: "also needed"

            Well, the pointless talking room has gone. You need, take care to prerest. Our MO will need something to order. Russia has no technological problems in this.
            1. 0
              14 September 2019 15: 40
              Quote: Nick
              Our MO will need something to order. Russia has no technological problems in this.

              Yeah, there’s no technological, there are financial
              1. 0
                14 September 2019 15: 42
                Quote: svp67
                Quote: Nick
                Our MO will need something to order. Russia has no technological problems in this.

                Yeah, there’s no technological, there are financial

                Compared to the Ruin, Russia is all five plus in finance.
                1. 0
                  14 September 2019 15: 54
                  Quote: Nick
                  Compared to the Ruin, Russia is all five plus in finance.

                  In comparison with Russia, the United States "pays" for Ukraine on very many issues of providing for the army. So, the comparison here is not very correct.
                  1. 0
                    14 September 2019 16: 03
                    Quote: svp67
                    Quote: Nick
                    Compared to the Ruin, Russia is all five plus in finance.

                    In comparison with Russia, the United States "pays" for Ukraine on very many issues of providing for the army. So, the comparison here is not very correct.

                    We talked about finances and not about providing the army. As for providing the army, it simply is not on the Ruin, there is only a cut of the budget of the Defense Ministry by oligarchic groups. Those couple of hundreds of millions that the State Department issues for the maintenance of the Armed Forces is in comparison with the budget of the Russian Defense Ministry a shot against an elephant. The budget of the Ministry of Defense of Russia is smaller, but comparable with the American one, if you count in comparable prices for armaments.
  2. +5
    12 September 2019 10: 54
    As they began, they will finish. Sumerians cannot count ostentatious undertakings, only the final results are zero. Fact!
  3. +7
    12 September 2019 10: 55
    What a headline! Peremoga! One helicopter!
    1. +2
      12 September 2019 12: 00
      Quote: 210ox
      What a headline! Peremoga! One helicopter!

      And then! Divide 1 Ukrainian helicopter by 0 ours. Overtaking an infinite number of times.
      1. +1
        12 September 2019 13: 39
        Wait, give up. Here as soon as they restore and put into operation this ...
        Then it’s for sure.
    2. 0
      12 September 2019 12: 22
      Yes, we forgot about the law of overflowing of peramokha into harassment. Let's wait.
    3. -3
      12 September 2019 12: 37
      Quote: 210ox
      What a headline! Peremoga! One helicopter!

      it’s as if we’ve got it!
      1. 0
        14 September 2019 10: 02
        Quote: Dead Day
        it’s as if we’ve got it!

        This is Svidomo, and we have achievements and victories! Learn Russian language. Soon everyone will need it!
    4. +2
      12 September 2019 13: 29
      Eto they are not thinking. Now there will be an exchange of airworthiness certificates - Mi-14 to An-124 ... smile
      1. +4
        12 September 2019 14: 37
        Now there will be an exchange of airworthiness certificates - Mi-14 to An-124.


        The Mi-14 does not fly abroad, unlike Ruslan. And "at home" fly to health even on a broomstick.
  4. +3
    12 September 2019 10: 58
    When it will be passed on, then it will be possible to discuss the speed of "overtaking". So far, these are intentions and declarations.
    Next:
    where will ukraine take ammunition: buoys, bombs, torpedoes?
    Who and how will destroy the submarine, even if this rotorcraft discovered it?
  5. +2
    12 September 2019 11: 02
    Without Russian spare parts and accessories, it will wither in one copy, and "one in the field (sea) is not a warrior."
    1. +1
      12 September 2019 13: 33
      They probably hope that Poland will give them their Mi-14 for free for spare parts. Poles like blackhawk wanted to collect in their multipurpose version?
    2. 0
      13 September 2019 00: 31
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      Without Russian spare parts and accessories, it will wither in one copy, and "one in the field (sea) is not a warrior."

      Do you have any idea how many 1991 helicopters remained in Ukraine? Donors abound! Unfortunately, this also applies to us! Konotop ARZ is a serious enterprise (I've been there more than once), and I think that the supply of KARZ is not "only" from Ukraine!
  6. NKT
    +7
    12 September 2019 11: 03
    Moreover, in Russia all vehicles of this type are withdrawn from service. Ideas are periodically voiced to return them into operation.


    Under the 2019 armament program, three Mi-14PSM helicopters should be delivered to the Caspian flotilla.
    At the expense of the Mi-14PL version, in 2015, preparations were held for the resumption of production at the Kazan plant, however, no orders have yet been received from the Ministry of Defense.

    But so far, in this matter, Ukraine is ahead of its neighbor, that is, Russia.

    To use the Mi-14 as an anti-submarine variant, at least 2 vehicles are needed: one searches for and targets the submarines, and the other strikes with torpedoes. So one car is about nothing.
    1. +6
      12 September 2019 12: 01
      Quote: NKT
      however, no orders have yet been received from the Ministry of Defense.

      Well, why is he MO? After all, there is an excellent anti-submarine Ka-27
      1. NKT
        +5
        12 September 2019 12: 23
        Well, for some reason, the Soviet Navy needed it! wink
        1. +4
          12 September 2019 17: 44
          Well, for some reason, the Soviet Navy needed it!

          Mi-14 is an adapted army Mi-8 for helicopter trawling of minefields.
          The Ka-25 was weak for this, and the Ka-27 was just being tested. That temporarily closed the gap with this development.
          The design was not the most successful, the water quickly gained and swayed violently during excitement, because of which it was possible to take off from the water only in motion, greatly accelerating.
  7. +3
    12 September 2019 11: 05
    Are they ... removed from the pedestal? for restoration?
    1. -1
      12 September 2019 11: 17
      No, together with the pedestal! lol
      1. +1
        13 September 2019 01: 06
        The pedestal will go like a depth bomb according to the principle: the radius of the bomb is equal to the radius of the bomb itself)
  8. +3
    12 September 2019 11: 15
    after the capture by the Russian invaders of the Sevastopol Aircraft Repair Plant

    in this case, Ukraine is ahead of its neighbor, that is, Russia

    And also the "clumsy (one should also add - always drunk and beggar) neighbor" in the title!
    The impression that I got to ukrosayt!
    Hello author, will you answer for the bazaar? Don't write that anymore.
    But seriously, "One swallow does not make spring!", Even if it is Mi-14P, in addition, knowing the hands-on hands of ukrospets, I would:
    It will be equipped with a weather radar, multifunctional navigation and communication equipment, a navigation indicator, new intercom systems, an icing warning device, a compass, special antennas and other equipment.
    divided by 15, AND REMAIN ONE COMPASS!
  9. 0
    12 September 2019 11: 41
    Ukraine is reviving anti-submarine aviation in the form of Mi-14 because they have nothing more to oppose to our Warsaw women on the Black Sea, and at least something.
    Russia can upgrade the Mi-14 without need, in the light of the development of a new anti-submarine helicopter Lamprey and armed with the Ka-27. Although the ability of the Mi-14 to land on water can also come in handy.
    1. 0
      12 September 2019 13: 20
      In a rescuer option would be more relevant. Well, the sensitivity of the HOOK depends on the size. Now, if he turns the whole bottom into a hook. Then you can think.
  10. 0
    12 September 2019 12: 09
    They were taken out in the 90s, considering that there were too many considering the Ka-27. And they left the latter as base helicopters. The feasibility of returning to service should be considered, taking into account the resource and tasks.
  11. +11
    12 September 2019 12: 10
    But so far, in this matter, Ukraine is ahead of its neighbor, that is, Russia.

    What nonsense))

    Serial production was organized at the end of 1973 at factory No. 387 in Kazan this time. And not in Ukraine.
    It is expected that during 2019 at least 3 helicopters of the Mi-14PSM modification will go into service with the Caspian fleet of the Russian Navy.
    Ukraine has only 4 helicopters, which they can only play pranks on, and that is not a fact.

    Who's behind there? laughing
  12. +2
    12 September 2019 12: 16
    THE WHOLE one Mi-14 is possible ALL THE UKRAINIAN anti-submarine aircraft .. Therefore they need them, both as a symbol and as a kind of army ....
    1. +3
      12 September 2019 13: 22
      To each tank and helicopter - according to the general! To each kayak - according to the admiral! Catch up and drive borscht into the vodka!
  13. +7
    12 September 2019 12: 27
    I completely agree with the first speaker, and I will ask many subsequent ones, but on x..rena, if we have the widest range of compact and multi-purpose helicopters from Kamov, is this a junk? It’s kind of too large on the ship, but flying from the shore ...., well, no matter how, there are Mikoyanov’s and newer. Well, ukraine just right, one and Mi-2 were given out for a peremog a year ago))))
    1. -11
      12 September 2019 13: 04
      the people are like a "censor", there are no specialists, throw away the ambition-shovel ... stand each other ... fool
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  15. -2
    12 September 2019 13: 07
    Quote: dauria
    - thoroughly know all the "Soviet developments"
    - thoroughly know what is available now.


    Or live in a large industrial center that used to produce "defense". And to look at the state of the factories according to the announcements "such and such a salary is required." You do not need tolerances and knowledge to compare the flow of workers at checkpoints before and now. And the planes taking off from the factory airfield, and echelons with armored personnel carriers from the car factory .... Or are they "invisible" now laughing
    Someone in Stalin's time said - "You can make an airplane, make aviation much more difficult." Where is the industry?

    Yes Yes Yes good hi
  16. +4
    12 September 2019 13: 33
    An article from an anonymous author was born for only one reason - Bandera gathered to repair one MI-14 helicopter. In pursuance of the instructions of the West, Bandera’s people need to squeeze the maximum out of this trifling event (which, incidentally, may not happen) and win over the Russians in this section by the old Bandera habit. It is strange that the VO website is connected to this task on the side of Bandera ... crying
    Although in August 2018, a wonderful article by Kirill Ryabov was published at the VO, which analyzes the situation on helicopters in the Russian Navy (https://topwar.ru/145104-vertolety-aviacii-vmf-novye-i-obnovlennye.html). Whoever wishes can refresh memory and read. After reading the attempts of Bandera to arrange a competition with Russia on anti-submarine helicopters become ridiculous.
  17. 0
    12 September 2019 13: 49
    Made in Konotop .. sounds proudly!
    The next phase of production is "Kryzhopolsky aircraft engine"
  18. +2
    12 September 2019 13: 59
    Someone well adds gas to the fire.
    And someone from this bastard!
    Where is the source? Where did this achievement come from?
  19. +1
    12 September 2019 14: 24
    Sanctions on them for this, who allowed? They squeal about the An-124, and that’s them horseradish from the tubercle.
  20. -1
    12 September 2019 14: 35
    Well, they said the other day that "there was an American spy in the presidential administration"! It remains to find in the Aviation Industry that "sent Cossack" who is confidently leading our aviation industry to the final collapse! There is an obvious "enemy of the people" somewhere!
  21. +2
    12 September 2019 15: 53
    The author, this is a development in 1976, in 2016 they have already been withdrawn from service. The Ukrainian Mi-14 is at least 30 years old. Upgrading in Ukrainian is just a replacement for the engines. In Russia, anti-submarine missions are performed by the Kamov family of helicopters, which is much better suited for working on the sea.
  22. 0
    12 September 2019 16: 16
    Only in Sevastopol the helicopter plant will soon be closed, and the land will be given for the construction of luxury housing.
  23. +1
    12 September 2019 18: 19
    In the article, the main message is "Ukraine has overtaken ..." All other nuances, and the defining ones are not considered.
  24. +2
    12 September 2019 18: 58
    Tailwind. We, rye, are that simpler to us. KA-52, MI-28.
    By manifesting an act of goodwill and good neighborliness, we can help in overtaking Russia in the manufacture of horseshoes for cyborgs. Some kind of glands on shoes. So that boots can be used by several generations. No wear.
  25. -1
    12 September 2019 19: 00
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: rocket757
    used by the military and rescuers. Have not refused yet

    Our military refused him, removed from armament. Those cars that remained limitedly used, mainly the Ministry of Emergencies hi

    I remember how the "military" of the RF Armed Forces refused the T-80 tank - all over the country, loudly and convincingly, and right now they will slowly unpack it back laughing I assure you that the "party" will command, they will also dig out the Mi-14 from the dumps, and each rebuilt / assembled from scratch will be presented as an awesome success and almost a breakthrough. drinks
    1. 0
      14 September 2019 10: 14
      Quote: Doliva63
      I remember how the "military" of the RF Armed Forces refused the T-80 tank - all over the country, loudly and convincingly

      Recalled the dashing 90! Then about the bases in the Arctic and the protection of the infrastructure of the NSR and did not dream. And for the European theater, the T-72 and T-90 were quite happy with everything.
  26. 0
    12 September 2019 19: 03
    3 cars flew from Novofedorovka in Crimea under their own power, and a couple of pieces really remained on the ground. So they were still taken away. Https://youtu.be/wYn1IWW5T9w
  27. 0
    12 September 2019 19: 11
    Ukraine overtook Russia in the restoration of Mi-14

    If not for the betrayal of some, it is unlikely that something happened in Ukraine. The blades for the Mi-8 are made only by the Russian Federation and only in one factory
  28. 0
    12 September 2019 20: 38
    For better or worse ... But Ukraine produces dviglo for data / similar devices.
    Does their mother produce Russia? That is the question. Without a motor, any aggregate is a useless piece of iron. With all its antennas, bombs and torpedoes. And also, by professionals behind the * pen * ...
    1. 0
      14 September 2019 10: 20
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      Ukraine produces dviglo for data / similar devices.
      Does their mother produce Russia?

      Produces better quality. Thanks to the sanctions. They opened their eyes to many and cleared their brains.
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      Without a motor, any aggregate is a useless piece of iron. With all its antennas, bombs and torpedoes.

      And the motor without an aggregate is the same ...
  29. 0
    12 September 2019 21: 02
    "Non-working state" is a concept that does not correspond to the norms of the state Russian language. Maybe it's a surzhik?
  30. pm4
    0
    12 September 2019 22: 04
    Quote: Evil 55
    THE WHOLE one Mi-14 is possible ALL THE UKRAINIAN anti-submarine aircraft .. Therefore they need them, both as a symbol and as a kind of army ....

    But there will be a full-fledged headquarters with a full-fledged admiral
  31. pm4
    +1
    12 September 2019 22: 17
    Quote: Petrol cutter
    For better or worse ... But Ukraine produces dviglo for data / similar devices.
    Does their mother produce Russia? That is the question. Without a motor, any aggregate is a useless piece of iron. With all its antennas, bombs and torpedoes. And also, by professionals behind the * pen * ...

    It is not enough to ASSEMBLY engines; one must still have a complete cycle for the production of components. For interest, read why the An-178 production got up. The Russian Federation has its own production of helicopter engines
  32. +2
    12 September 2019 22: 39
    The Ukrainian turns to God: - Lord, why did you give everything to these Russians, but nothing to me. They all have oil, gas, great history, and world famous poets, writers, composers, scientists.
    God replies: - And I also gave you everything.
    Ukrainian: - Where? When?
    God: - When you were Russian.
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  34. +1
    13 September 2019 01: 03
    Is the author chasing a sensation?
    And if in Ukraine they thought of putting a torpedo under the wings of a torpedo, and that the Russian Federation would also lag behind in such a race of “aircraft carrier killers”?
  35. +1
    13 September 2019 02: 42
    "until the end of the 2019th Navy will the repaired Mi-14PCh anti-submarine helicopter was handed over.
    Will.. Or maybe it won't. Everything else is a typical "fan throw". For sofa experts.
  36. +1
    13 September 2019 08: 19
    I heard that in our warehouses since the times of the First World War there were still a lot of primuses, send chtoli to Ukraine, let them overtake further
  37. +1
    13 September 2019 10: 20
    Quote: maidan.izrailovich
    Propaganda article ....

    More like a fan dash ....
    And yet he reached the goal. The people got excited.
    Although there is nothing special to discuss. crying
    Impartial Wikipedia reports that Outskirts have only 4 Mi-14s.

    ... three of which went to the organs and the modernization of one, the hero of the article.
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  39. 0
    14 September 2019 06: 37
    Laugh at the neighbor. even a stupid sin .. when will we all become a little kinder, at least to ourselves? Who are we laughing at? Do they laugh at us? In our country, the population is dying out, unique Soviet military factories are being closed, scientific activity is not going further than Putin's "pseudo-modernization" ... hundreds of villages disappear every year, more than 50 young people in Russia die from alcoholism every year ... 000 million prisoners. 1 million drug addicts .... Oligarchs (most of them Jews) have taken over the entire trade in natural resources. Jews rule Russia and Russians, Putin is their obedient pawn, and we have fun that the khokhlam has become disgusting ..... The country stands above a demographic abyss, and we laugh at our neighbor ..... We could not be defeated by force, but they turn us into obedient drinking flock ... and we help them in this ...
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  41. 0
    14 September 2019 18: 58
    Quote: Nick
    Quote: Doliva63
    I remember how the "military" of the RF Armed Forces refused the T-80 tank - all over the country, loudly and convincingly

    Recalled the dashing 90! Then about the bases in the Arctic and the protection of the infrastructure of the NSR and did not dream. And for the European theater, the T-72 and T-90 were quite happy with everything.

    So we have "dashing" all around - the 90s, zero, tenth. And there are no extreme ones.
    I remember the plasticine "fangs" on the tanks for testing in 91st. Right now, I hope they are real, but here are how many tanks there are in the army and how many are needed. And in the 90s there was not even a thought about any ETVD - the main thing was to get rid of the Soviet "stigma" and sell to the West as much as possible. And there is no brotherly way. Therefore, we will not have many tanks and planes. There will be as much as necessary so that the "Western partners" do not worry.
  42. 0
    15 September 2019 14: 24
    In Ukraine, they restore not what the army or type of fleet needs, but what is in a condition suitable for restoration. This Mi is 14 and not on. In the same way, the Mi-9 pair was restored, apparently hangar storage, since the commander’s vehicles. Although actually they ZSU on hell did not flatten. This is only for stubborn banderlogs - another pyrimoga