Caspian map of the United States and NATO against Russia and Iran

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US policy in the Caspian Sea basin is aimed at dominating the region, exacerbating contradictions and creating an anti-Iranian and anti-Russian military-strategic springboard.

It is also important that three of the five Caspian states - Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan - are the most difficult northern border of the Greater Middle East (BWI), within the framework of the “grand” strategy of the Great BWI from the North Africa to Kazakhstan and India inclusive, coinciding with the Centcom - the Central Command of the US Armed Forces.

Although Russia and Iran are pursuing their own national interests and priorities in the Caspian zone, mutual coordination of actions would be beneficial to both countries. Control over a significant part of world energy resources and a favorable strategic position allow Iran to actively compete with Russia: Iran is the only one of the five states of the Caspian basin (the rest are Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Russia and Turkmenistan) that has direct access to the Indian Ocean, which gives it advantages over Turkey and Russia when transporting energy from the Caspian. Iran has the longest coastline in the Persian and Omani Gulfs, and the most practical route to the open seas and the only land road to the Arab world runs through its territory. Iran has easy access to China and the Far East through Central Asia, which allows to restore historical "Silk Road" with the connection of the South Caucasian and Central Asian states. Economic rivalry in the Caspian region is unfolding mainly due to control over its oil-bearing regions and transport corridors. Iran, like Russia, is interested in economic and political stability in the Caspian region of the post-Soviet space.

In general, Iran’s approaches to the security problem in the Caspian region are determined by the objectives of its long-term strategy in the region: a desire to counteract nationalist sentiments on both sides of the Iranian-Azerbaijani border in order to avoid the threat of separatism in the Iranian north-western provinces inhabited by Azerbaijanis; search for new markets for Iranian goods and the application of capital, bypassing the US policy of international isolation of Iran; using its advantageous geographical position to ensure that communications, oil and gas and transport flows pass through its territory.

The arrival of foreign companies in the Caspian Sea (English and American directly or indirectly own 27% of oil and 40% of gas reserves here) and non-regional players (the United States in the first place) only spurred the arms race that has begun long ago. While the availability of military equipment and flotilla Russia remains the leader in the Caspian. Its 15-strong Caspian naval flotilla includes a surface ship brigade, security ship brigade, support vessel brigade, search and rescue operations department, hydrographic vessel division, ekranoplanes air group and marines guard brigade. Russia plans to improve the air cover of the Caspian Naval Theater by equipping it, in addition to existing facilities, with new S-300 anti-aircraft systems. Iran also headed for a sharp increase in its military presence (1,5 times) in the Caspian, transferring its naval forces from the Persian Gulf there. In 2003, a new development program for the Iranian National Tanker Company was adopted: it provides for the construction of a series of tankers at local shipyards and the creation of an Iranian tanker fleet in the Caspian.

The position of Russia, like Iran, regarding the problem of militarization of the Caspian remains unchanged. Both states proceed from the premise: since the Caspian Sea is an inland sea of ​​coastal countries, the protection of sea borders is the prerogative of these states themselves, which do not need the services of third countries.

In general, the process of militarization of the region adjacent to the Caspian Sea is developing against a very bad background. First, the Caspian littoral states are still unable to agree on the legal status of the sea, which makes it impossible to establish uniform rules for the game here. Secondly, between some of them, tensions in bilateral relations have not been relieved. Thirdly, the situation is aggravated by non-regional powers and TNCs: controlling the major oil projects in Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan, they claim a special role in this region.

Security is a fairly complex phenomenon, not limited only to the military sphere. It includes political, economic, informational and ideological components, it has a human dimension. Therefore, there are a number of possible areas of cooperation between Iran and Russia that can be aimed at achieving stability in the region: environmental protection, joint projects to clean the Caspian Sea from industrial pollution, etc. Moscow is convinced that excluding Iran from regional processes would be counterproductive - like from the point of view of the prospects of political stabilization, in which Russia is interested, and in view of the development of integration processes in this new strategic space. Russia and Iran, despite some similarity of approaches to safe development in the Caspian zone, pursue their own national interests and priorities, which will not necessarily coincide in all respects. That is why the coordination of Iran’s actions with Russia, which remains, despite the current weakening, an influential military-political force in the region, would benefit both parties.

The Islamic Republic of Iran remains a rebellious power in the emerging Greater Middle East. Accordingly, the actions of the United States in relation to Iran on the territory of the BWI are determined by the well-known “anaconda” principle: the total encirclement of Iran and its subsequent strangulation. The task of creating the Caspian buffer zone between Iran and Russia is to constantly divide them, drive, figuratively speaking, a wedge between them through the strategically important and extremely sensitive sea space of the Caspian Sea.

Obviously: the rupture of the Russia-Iran ligament itself is of fundamental importance for securing the non-regional powers a dominant position in the Caspian.



Two other American projects of artificial design of new macroregions are intended to break this bundle: Greater Central Asia and the Caspian-Black Sea region, which cut off Russia and Iran from each other in the transverse direction simultaneously to the right and left.

The US Department of State's published report to the Congress on budgetary financing of military operations abroad in 2012 caused a surge in interest in the problem of militarizing the Caspian Sea and became evidence of a systematic US action on organizing a naval outpost against Iran. According to the report, Washington, in view of the "growing importance of the security of the Caspian Sea in this oil-and-gas-rich region," intends to contain Iran and the Russian Federation, arming their neighbors (Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan) in the Caspian Sea. It is obvious that we are already talking not only about the flat militarization of the region, but also about putting together the Caspian military bloc led by the United States in the future.

Thus, with regard to Azerbaijan, the most advanced in naval affairs, it is noted that “the United States will continue to work with the Azerbaijani Navy to increase the security of the Caspian Sea, develop professional military education, expand opportunities to participate in joint peacekeeping operations and promote progress towards compatibility with NATO ... "In the future, Washington believes that Azerbaijan will be involved in the NATO bloc. Already, with the help of the United States, Azerbaijan has created a special-purpose naval unit. It is expected that the armament of this part will soon be replenished with special means of production of the NATO countries. In any case, instructors of the US Navy SEAL sabotage and intelligence units work in this center. The Coast Guard of Azerbaijan (which, perhaps, is a more developed structure than the fleet) includes the S-201 patrol boat (a former Coast Guard boat of the Point type), two small American patrol boats S-11 and S-12 of the Silver Ship type. Azerbaijan also has US-made RIB-36 boats for the transfer of special forces.

US intends to help Kazakhstan in modernization of maritime aviationin particular, US-made helicopters (Huey II) already in its arsenal, which should “increase the capabilities of the Kazakh military in protecting important energy infrastructure facilities and in responding to threats to Kazakhstan and the Caspian Sea.” Earlier in 2010, the United States donated four landing boats to Kazakhstan free of charge under the five-year cooperation plan between the defense ministries of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the United States. Earlier, in 2005, in Aktau, the official transfer of three American 42-foot Defender type boats built by Safe Boat International was held. In addition, in 2006, South Korea handed over to the Naval Forces of Kazakhstan three patrol ships (patrol boats of the Sea Dolphin type) with a displacement of 150 tons. In fact, the history of modern naval forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan began in 2006.

It is possible that the United States also indirectly participates in the modernization of the Kazakh Navy through joint Kazakh-Azerbaijani programs. Thus, in 2008, the military leadership of Kazakhstan reached an agreement on the training of personnel of the marine special forces of Kazakhstan on the basis of the reconnaissance and sabotage center of the Azerbaijani Navy.

In Turkmenistan, just starting to turn into a state with the Navy, Washington plans to organize training for local sailors in English as part of the International Military Education and Training (IMET) program. In addition, "US assistance will be aimed at helping to strengthen the nascent Turkmen naval capabilities that will contribute to security in the Caspian Sea." In general, at the expense of the Foreign Military Financing Program (Foreign Military Financing - FMF) and in-country training in English, the United States is counting on further expansion of cooperation.

Iran, like Russia, in its policy towards the states of the region takes into account the degree of their involvement in unfriendly blocs, partnerships and alliances. Russia and Iran are interested in creating a counterweight to Turkey, which claims to increase its regional role; Both states are also concerned about the US attempts to establish itself in the Caspian as the sole superpower. Iran sees a threat to its security as Washington’s involvement of the states of the region in a campaign to limit Iran’s ability to increase its defense capability, and Russia cannot but be disturbed by the threat of NATO penetration into the southern CIS states, which it considers to be its priority interests.

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  1. +12
    9 July 2012 05: 33
    The appearance of American companies and Americans in this region is a huge victory for American diplomacy and, accordingly, the loss of everyone else ... The Caspian countries, because of their ambitions, launched an elephant into a china shop ...
    In the near future, we will be forced to spend huge sums on the creation in this region of full-fledged rapid reaction forces, the Navy and air defense ...
    1. Ataturk
      +11
      9 July 2012 06: 39
      How not to twist but a mess, alas, to my regret is approaching. It was not enough that they were waging war on the Caucasian land, so now they’ve connected the sea. There is no need to spend money for the benefit of people, but spend money for the benefit of gangs of oil magnates, bankers and those who are not familiar with the word PEACE !!!
      1. AIvanA
        +4
        9 July 2012 06: 52
        I completely agree with you, the United States is now a completely militaristic state comparable to fascist Germany in the 30-40s, and since a militaristic state simply cannot exist without a war, but is simply afraid to fight, it all boils down to pushing the locals themselves, as it were. But in these republics such a sense of money is also not measured and people live very richly and there are not enough cultivated lands? In general, the world is going crazy, and completely.
        1. Ataturk
          +1
          9 July 2012 07: 13
          Quote: AIvanA
          In general, the world is going crazy, and completely.

          with the question of Iran, I will express my position. Relations between Iran and Azerbaijan were built solely on the negative attitude of Iran towards Azerbaijan. Constant threats, constant insults, constant sabotage, discrimination against Azerbaijanis in Iran. How much can they endure? In a word, they got it. Not only that, Russia in word or deed, but we see Iran’s backside saves, while Iran runs to all levels to sue Russia. If Russia would not pay compensation for the refusal to sell the S-300, I would not say anything, thinking what was right. Money must be returned, but Russia pays. Strictly by appointment. For this I do not feel excessive pity for Iran. Not only were we some neighbors to whom the land was served, so now another ones appeared who laid eyes on the bottom of the Caspian Sea, which they never owned. Here is such to take into account in Azerbaijan.
          1. Yoshkin Kot
            +5
            9 July 2012 07: 56
            such is the fate of the orphaned and small, for "independence" you have to "pay"
            ps in nature, in principle, there is no equality, the strong eats the weak, the strongest strong
          2. +9
            9 July 2012 08: 17
            Quote: Ataturk
            Russia in word or deed, but we see Iran’s backside saves
            I take your active position in the whitening of the policy of the native state, but let's face it — Azerbaijan, the reasons for a separate discussion, opened Pandora’s box ... It was with the filing of Azerbaijan that Russia and Iran became economic opponents of Baku and Ashgabat ...
            Talking about violation of human rights in Iran is about the same as talking about the same thing in Russia or Azerbaijan .. We can always find those who are dissatisfied ... But the facts are ...
            Baku allowed foreigners to the Caspian Sea, Baku is actively negotiating the deployment of Israelis there, Baku is creating conditions for squeezing Russia out of the region, Baku wants to realize its national ambitions through a war in the region ... What is the only attempt to rename the country ...
            1. Ataturk
              -5
              9 July 2012 08: 27
              Quote: domokl
              It was with the filing of Azerbaijan that both Russia and Iran became economic opponents of Baku and Ashgabat ...


              For more details please.

              Quote: domokl
              Talking about violation of human rights in Iran is about the same as talking about the same in Russia or Azerbaijan

              Azerbaijanis live there on their lands, occupied lands, while they are not allowed to learn their language and much more. Discrimination.

              Quote: domokl
              Baku allowed foreigners to the Caspian

              And Kazakhstan let and Turkmenistan let. And there would be an opportunity for Iran, and they would have let it go, only Iran has no authority in this. I will post an article about this later, read it.

              Quote: domokl
              Baku is actively negotiating the placement of Israelis there

              Where is the evidence? Facts? And yet, Baku leads with Israel or Israel with Baku?

              Quote: domokl
              Baku creates conditions for squeezing Russia out of the region

              When you say A and B, DO NOT FORGET.

              What the Kremlin did on the Karabakh issue.
              The fact that the Kremlin has been hanging noodles in Azerbaijan for 20 years
              The fact that being in the OSCE, Russia should keep NEUTRALITY, but in response we saw a freebie of weapons for a billion of ARMENIA, a GYUMRI base for 50 years, PLUS OPENLY THROWED UP at the UN when they voted AGAINST territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. And at the same time, we say from and to we support the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, but in fact ...... we saw ....

              So what are you surprised at? WHY DO YOU NOT WRITE IT? WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK IF YOU HAVE BEEN SUCH RELEASED AND Noodle hanged for you to do?

              Quote: domokl
              Baku wants to realize its national ambitions through the war in the region ..

              and what would you do if the Japanese capture Vladivostok and the coastal area ????
              I do not need an answer !!! since I know what happened in Chechnya !!!

              Be fair and honest in your positions !!!!


              Quote: domokl
              What is the mere attempt to rename a country ...

              THIS IS A PERSONAL CASE OF EACH FREE AND INDEPENDENT COUNTRY !!!
              1. urchik
                0
                14 July 2012 15: 28
                NOT COUNTRIES AND PEN ... SOVIET SIX
            2. Yarbay
              -2
              9 July 2012 11: 21
              Alexander!
              ** Baku allowed foreigners to the Caspian **
              And what do you think Azerbaijan should have done?
              Tolerate the double game of Russia and substituted ??
              and what renaming of the country do you say ??
              1. +5
                9 July 2012 11: 40
                Well, it started again. Like in a joke where the Armenians are better than the Georgians.
                1. Yarbay
                  +1
                  9 July 2012 11: 43
                  Well no!
                  It was just necessary to observe the principles of relationships, not personal preferences!
                  After all, it all started with Yeltsin!
                  If most Russians consider him to be m..om, then what was Azerbaijan left to do ??
                  1. +3
                    9 July 2012 12: 33
                    Not in this case. In the current instability (thanks to NATO) everyone is trying to catch his (and someone else's too) fish in troubled waters. Bad end. For all.
                  2. +1
                    9 July 2012 13: 53
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    After all, it all started with Yeltsin!

                    Dear Alibek, unfortunately - it all started with Gorbachev and Co., Yeltsin and Co. - the consequence.
                    1. Artsakh
                      -4
                      9 July 2012 14: 03
                      Dear Curcul.
                      It still started with V.I. Lenin, who loved the Ottomans, led by an ataturk.
                      1. +1
                        9 July 2012 14: 16
                        Quote: Artsakh
                        It still started with V.I. Lenin, who loved the Ottomans, led by an ataturk

                        We will not reach the princes of Russia?
                      2. Artsakh
                        -2
                        9 July 2012 14: 24
                        We can get there.
                        And what's the point.
                        The foundations of the contradictions were not laid by them.
                      3. -2
                        9 July 2012 14: 34
                        Quote: Artsakh
                        The foundations of the contradictions were not laid by them.

                        By and large - and not to Lenin. With the existence of the USSR, there were no more or less serious local conflicts on the territory of the Union, it all started with the spotted and Co.
                        But for that matter, the inarticulate policy of Nicholas II just led to a change in the state system of Russia with the advent of Lenin and others.
                      4. Artsakh
                        -2
                        9 July 2012 14: 42
                        I understand your point. I just wrote about the "contradictions" specifically in the region geographically limited by the "Armenian Highlands".
                      5. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                        -2
                        9 July 2012 15: 15
                        Quote: Artsakh

                        I understand your point. I just wrote about the "contradictions" specifically in the region geographically limited by the "Armenian Highlands".

                        You listen to yourself — at least you yourself understand what you are writing and what you are writing about! what
                      6. Artsakh
                        -2
                        9 July 2012 15: 20
                        Explain something?
                    2. Yarbay
                      0
                      9 July 2012 14: 14
                      Dear Vitali!
                      I agree completely!
                      But I meant that Yeltsin was responsible for Russia!
                      And Gorbachev crap around the USSR, that is, all of us together!
                      1. -2
                        9 July 2012 14: 26
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        But I meant that Yeltsin was responsible for Russia!
                        And Gorbachev crap around the USSR, that is, all of us together!

                        Please understand me correctly: I believe that the USSR was the legal successor of the Republic of Ingushetia, with a different state structure and all that, but the Republic of Ingushetia was Russia. Therefore, the spotted and Co. "crumpled the USSR", but in fact - provided the prerequisites for dismemberment. All military conflicts on the territory of the USSR, practically, began under him. And the bummer picked up the splinter (the largest one) - and was very happy about it: how could one not become the "king" of an independent state. We all know the results of his reign, as well as the results of the reign of other "independent" figures.
          3. AIvanA
            0
            9 July 2012 12: 54
            You know what an interesting moment it turns out, just imagine all the neighbors at one moment renounced their claims to each other and made all the disputed lands common, that is, free of taxes, forgot the grudge and started building from scratch, what kind of world could be built then , because, in principle, the earth is enough for everyone, how much does it cost?
            1. Yarbay
              +1
              9 July 2012 13: 05
              Dear Andrew!
              You write very good words, but not for this, these conflicts were created so that they are so easily forgotten!
              I think a couple of generations will pass before you can do this, what you write !!
              Lies and deceit destroyed the relationship!
              I remember after the speech of Primakov and Yazov that in no case troops would be in Baku and after 4 hours the troops entered, people burned party cards and there was rage in my eyes !!
        2. mihasik
          0
          15 July 2012 01: 22
          We need to develop our presence in South America with all that it implies ..... however absurd it might look from the delivery and supply side.
      2. +9
        9 July 2012 08: 08
        Quote: Ataturk
        How not to twist but a mess, alas, to my regret is approaching.
        While Syria is holding on and Iran will not really be serious there, but spending on defense in all countries will increase significantly ...
        1. Ataturk
          -1
          9 July 2012 08: 28
          Quote: domokl
          While Syria is holding on and Iran is not really serious there

          There people die, do you think anything serious? XM

          Quote: domokl
          but defense spending in all countries will increase significantly ...

          Want peace, get ready for war!
          1. AIvanA
            0
            9 July 2012 12: 59
            In my opinion, people are already preparing for war, with the whole world, except for rulers, they have their own retreat plan, but are you ready for peace? Forgive everyone and build a new world?
            1. Yarbay
              +1
              9 July 2012 13: 06
              I am ready for peace, but after the trial of the Nazis and terrorists!
              And of course, after the liberation of the territories!
              1. +2
                9 July 2012 16: 16
                Colonel-General
                Online
                Yarbay (5) AZ Today, 13:06 PM ↑ new
                - 1 +
                I am ready for peace, but after the trial of the Nazis and terrorists! - --- Who exactly \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
                1. +3
                  9 July 2012 16: 20
                  would you make peace with the Armenians - / ????
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    9 July 2012 16: 22
                    Yuri, how do you imagine this ??
                    I am normal towards the Armenians!
                    To the Nazis and terrorists with hatred!
                2. Yarbay
                  -2
                  9 July 2012 16: 20
                  Yura did not understand !!
              2. see
                see
                +1
                11 July 2012 10: 30
                I do not understand, do you consider yourself a person capable of changing the world order? If so, then you need to check.
        2. +8
          9 July 2012 08: 33
          wink And Domocles is right ... Ataturk, this is not your first day on the site and you know it well ... Raising a bunch of questions is stupid again .. But in general, it seems to me that the main player in the Caspian is Azerbaijan, it was he who entered into agreements with American and British companies ..
          1. Ataturk
            -2
            9 July 2012 08: 43
            Quote: older
            But in general, it seems to me that Azerbaijan is the main player in the Caspian, it was he who entered into agreements with American and British companies ..


            Good afternoon!
            Listen dear. When there is oil, it must also be sold. Heydar Aliyev killed 1 birds with one stone.
            1. He found a potential rabbit from the West who pay well.
            2. Impact, LEVER. The same lever from which the WEST so wants to get rid of in the person of GAZPROM.
            3. An oil company was opened in Baku and young people got a job.
            4. Investment in the country
            5. The development of the country in every sense.

            Foreigners in Baku were back in the early 20th century. The Nobel brothers and others.
            Lukoil is in Egypt and Africa and everywhere, so what do they need to drive out?
            1. +7
              9 July 2012 08: 56
              Quote: Ataturk
              When there is oil, it must also be sold.
              But who argues with this? Only here to sell oil and sell the interests of the peoples of the Caspian region, things are different ... Stability is much more valuable than dollars and euros ... Nobody perceived the region as explosive before Aliyev’s curtsy .. Now everyone is talking loudly about military component of politics ...
              1. Ataturk
                -2
                9 July 2012 09: 02
                Quote: domokl
                Only here to sell oil and sell the interests of the peoples of the Caspian region things are different ...


                I AGREE!!! Now consider the Caspian countries.

                Kazakhstan - SENDING OIL TO TANKERS TO AZERBAIJAN AND SELLING ITS EUROPE THROUGH AZERBAIJAN.

                Turkmenistan - DIRECTS its energy resources to Azerbaijan and sells Europe through Azerbaijan.

                Iran? - would you be in our place, given what they are doing, would you sell?

                Russia - the pipeline to Novorossiysk - we have been selling oil through Russia for a century.

                What is the question then? And now, given what I wrote to you above, draw a conclusion, no matter what, Azerbaijan sells its oil through Russia, although we have a BTC pipeline and could export from there.

                And now the main question.


                YOU WROTE
                Quote: domokl
                and sell the interests of the peoples of the Caspian region

                And were the countries of the Caspian region interested in our interests? Answer honestly !!!

                Quote: domokl
                Now everyone is talking loudly about the military component of politics ...

                Show me at least 1 politician who speaks of peace and acts on this word and who does not speak of an increase in the army?

                I don’t know such people ... I will be glad if you write me a couple of names.
                1. Facturin
                  +9
                  9 July 2012 10: 40
                  Ataturk,
                  Now, if you had any Brazilians working on the oil and gas front, there would be no questions !!! But this is the Americans! And where there are Americans - there is war!
              2. Yarbay
                0
                9 July 2012 11: 24
                ** Only here to sell oil and sell the interests of the peoples of the Caspian region are different things .. ** - and what are the interests of the people ??
                **. Nobody perceived the region as explosive before Aliyev’s curtsies ** -
                Really ??? Conflicts in Georgia, the war in Karabakh were excerpts from the ballet * Swan Lake * and Aliyev's curtsies ??
          2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
            +1
            9 July 2012 11: 10
            Quote: older
            But in general, it seems to me that Azerbaijan is the main player in the Caspian, it was he who entered into agreements with American and British companies ..

            Hello Sergey! Regarding Anglo-American companies, the number of Russian oil and gas fields involved in the development exceeds 50%, and this is after Putin squeezed out half of the Russian oil and gas business! Azerbaijan, in turn, has reduced the participation of foreign companies by almost three - this is a fact!
    2. VAF
      VAF
      +7
      9 July 2012 09: 59
      Quote: domokl
      In the near future, we will be forced to spend huge sums on the creation in this region of full-fledged rapid reaction forces, the Navy and air defense ...


      Alexander, I welcome and ... absolutely agree with you, + !!!

      Only the rapid reaction forces alone cannot do ... if Iran is ... "crushed", echoing .... they are preparing intensely ..... I hope, of course, that amers and their "allies" will count all possible losses and that's it will go into the sphere of political and economic pressure from their side, but on the other hand .... they have already started their car ...

      So let's see what else remains .... request



      Iranian F-14A Tomcat fighter with R-27 missile.
      In the background is the F-4 Phantom II with a suspended Chinese anti-ship missile S-802, as well as the F-5th and Su-24M.
      1. Yarbay
        0
        9 July 2012 11: 27
        Dear Sergey!
        Do you really think that Iran is a partner in Russia and that Iran considers Russia an ally ??
        What will change for Russia if * they crush * Iran?
        Does Russia have a land border with Iran ??
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +2
          9 July 2012 18: 36
          Quote: Yarbay
          Do you really think that Iran is a partner in Russia and that Iran considers Russia an ally ??


          No, dear Alikbek, I do not think so, but Iran is a kind of buffer for us and a big splinter for amers, and this is in our hands (if it’s very childish and simple)!

          Quote: Yarbay
          What will change for Russia if * they crush * Iran?


          a lot, because. before these will crush Syria and we in this region will have only "bright hopes"

          Quote: Yarbay
          Does Russia have a land border with Iran ??

          Yarbay,

          Dear Alikbek, is it forgiven that, testing geography at the 5th grade level or forgive me, I did not understand the hidden meaning of your question ???

          But regardless of your answer, I’ll answer this way, I really wouldn’t like Amer’s ships to begin to sail around the Caspian, well, not ships, but boats, and there would be a couple of specific air bases ... close at hand!
          Best regards,
          1. Yarbay
            +1
            9 July 2012 18: 45
            Dear Sergey!
            Sorry for the question about the border, I wanted to lead to the fact that without a land border with Iran, what threat could Russia be talking about ??
            I agree the question is incorrect with respect to you to a worthy person!
            Believe me, there was no evil intent!
            2. ** a lot, because. before these will crush Syria and we in this region will have only "bright hopes" ** - and you don't think that despite the fact that Russia has been doing for 20 years and so there are almost bright hopes ??
            That’s why, in your opinion, they haven’t accepted Syria into the CSTO for 20 years? Tell me, I didn’t ask !!
            I do not think!
            Israel would be offended!
            Well, I don’t see an independent and intelligible policy of Russia!
            Sorry if something is wrong Sergey!
            Sincerely!
            1. Don
              0
              10 July 2012 15: 52
              Quote: Yarbay
              Sorry for the question about the border, I wanted to lead to the fact that without a land border with Iran, what threat could Russia be talking about ??

              There is an economic threat. They have already taken control of Libyan oil. Now they seek to crush Iran and Syria. If they manage to take control of Iranian oil, they will be able, with the help of their Saudi vassals, Qatar and the UAE, to regulate oil prices, and if also Syria, they will be able to conduct a gas pipeline from Qatar, through Turkey to Europe.
              Quote: Yarbay
              and you do not seem that despite the fact that Russia has been doing for 20 years and so there were almost bright hopes ??

              The region is not the best environment, but Syria is an ally.
              Quote: Yarbay
              Well, I don’t see an independent and intelligible policy of Russia!

              Russia 10 years in general, really could not deal with foreign policy. Not in that condition was. In order to decide something on the world stage, it is necessary for the state to be economically strong. Only recently, thanks to economic successes, the Russian Federation began to pursue an active foreign policy. First of all, in the countries of the former USSR.
              This is my personal opinion. Sincerely.
    3. Yarbay
      +2
      9 July 2012 11: 19
      ** Caspian countries, because of their ambitions, launched an elephant into a china shop ... **
      Not many of my own ambitions, but because of Russia's slurred and inconsistent policy !!
      1. AIvanA
        0
        9 July 2012 13: 08
        Iran and Russia at this stage are not strange in the area of ​​mutual interests, and all the countries bordering it, Iran gentlemen, democrats will wait for all trouble, they do not care about America, Britain, too, because it is its patrimony. Ava say what will change for Russia, but it’s just that the war will actually stand at the borders, and as you know, by analogy, remember Germany and Poland 40s, at the beginning did anyone pay attention to the desire of Poland at the beginning of hostilities? Approximately the same situation will develop here and here, but what I argue is that you yourself understand this very well.
    4. Artsakh
      -2
      9 July 2012 13: 16
      Caspian vector of Iranian-Russian interaction

      Although Russia and Iran are pursuing their own national interests and priorities in the Caspian zone, mutual coordination of actions would benefit both countries exclusively.


      http://evrazia.org/article/2012
      ... Another parameter by which the interests of Russia and Iran in ensuring regional security coincide are approaches to local ethnic conflicts, and primarily to the Karabakh problem.
      Like Russia, Iran considers it the most serious threat to the regional security of Transcaucasia and advocates maintaining the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. But to a greater extent than Russia, it links the causes of the unresolved Karabakh conflict with the influence of the West.
      It would be a mistake to consider Iran’s policy in the Karabakh conflict purely pro-Armenian. Iran is not interested in the Armenian military advancement into the territory of Azerbaijan, since military operations pose the refugee problem, including in Iranian regions inhabited by ethnic Azerbaijanis. In such circumstances, the threat of separatist sentiment becomes real. Russia, for other reasons, is also not interested in the influx of refugees and immigrants from the conflict zones of the Caucasus, since this is at the risk of growing social tension in Russia and increased competition in the employment market.
      Although Iran’s ability to actively influence the resolution of the Karabakh conflict has serious limitations, together with Russia it can undertake certain efforts aimed at rapprochement of the positions of Armenia and Azerbaijan.
      The arrival of foreign companies in the Caspian Sea (English and American directly or indirectly own 27% of oil and 40% of gas reserves here) and non-regional players (the USA in the first place) only spurred the arms race that has begun long ago. So far, in terms of the availability of military equipment and a flotilla, Russia remains the leader in the Caspian. Its 15-strong Caspian naval flotilla includes a surface ship brigade, security ship brigade, support vessel brigade, search and rescue operations department, hydrographic vessel division, ekranoplanes air group and marine corps guard brigade. Russia plans to improve the air cover of the Caspian Naval Theater by equipping it, in addition to available facilities, with new S-300 anti-aircraft systems.
      Iran also embarked on a sharp increase in its military presence (1,5 times) in the Caspian Sea, transferring there its Navy from the Persian Gulf. In 2003, a new development program for the Iranian National Tanker Company was adopted: it provides for the construction of a series of tankers at local shipyards and the creation of an Iranian tanker fleet in the Caspian.
      The position of Russia, like Iran, regarding the problem of militarization of the Caspian remains unchanged. Both states proceed from the premise: since the Caspian Sea is an inland sea of ​​coastal countries, the protection of sea borders is the prerogative of these states themselves, which do not need the services of third countries.
      In general, the process of militarization of the region adjacent to the Caspian Sea is developing against a very bad background. First, the Caspian littoral states are still unable to agree on the legal status of the sea, which makes it impossible to establish uniform rules for the game here. Secondly, between some of them, tensions in bilateral relations have not been relieved. Thirdly, the situation is aggravated by non-regional powers and TNCs: controlling the major oil projects in Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan, they claim a special role in this region.
      According to Moscow, a step capable of restraining the militarization of the Caspian could be the inclusion in the Convention on the Legal Status of the Caspian Sea of ​​the principle of the inadmissibility of the presence of third-party armed forces in the Caspian. Moreover, any invitation of the armed forces of foreign states to the Caspian Sea contradicts the general agreements of Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.
      Security is a rather complex phenomenon, not limited to the military sphere. It includes political, economic, informational and ideological components, has a human dimension. Therefore, there are a number of possible areas of cooperation between Iran and Russia that can be aimed at achieving stability in the region: environmental protection, joint projects to clean the Caspian from industrial pollution, etc.
      Moscow is convinced that the exclusion of Iran from regional processes would be counterproductive - both in terms of the prospects for political stabilization in which Russia is interested, and in view of the development of integration processes in this new strategic space.
      Iran and Russia need each other, and therefore the mutual coordination of their actions would benefit both sides. But Russia and Iran, despite some similarities in approaches to safe development in the Caspian zone, pursue their own national interests and priorities, which will not necessarily coincide in all respects. That is why coordination of Iran’s actions with Russia, which, despite the current weakening, remains an influential military-political force in the region, would benefit both parties.
      1. 755962
        +3
        9 July 2012 16: 02
        The Caspian region and the Caucasus are included in the zone of US strategic interests. This statement has been repeated many times during President Bill Clinton's White House. These regions are located in an important, from the point of view of geopolitics, place - the center of Eurasia. On the other hand, hydrocarbon reserves have been discovered here. These two factors are more than enough to warrant a superpower's close attention. "Geopolitical importance" means that the interests of Russia, the former US rival in the Cold War, China, recently declared a "strategic rival" by the Bush administration, and Iran, an anti-American regional power, converge here. And access to an additional source of hydrocarbons for the United States, which is its largest importer in the world, is also paramount. The Caspian is interesting for the United States - because the region, in terms of hydrocarbon development, has enormous potential. And where there is oil and gas, there are great powers for which access to such deposits is vital in the current economic structure. In the Middle East, oil is better. But there it is unstable - Iraq, Iran, Israeli-Palestinian conflicts. In the North Sea, production is costly and reserves are depleted. In such circumstances, having an additional "gas station" on the world map is not something that does not hurt, but is simply necessary. Especially in a region where the interests of China, Russia and Iran can also be contained.
  2. dark_sp
    +9
    9 July 2012 07: 03
    It remains to wait a bit !!
    1. dark_sp
      +5
      9 July 2012 07: 06
      for Russia!!
      1. dark_sp
        +4
        9 July 2012 07: 08
        Heading to Fashangton
        1. Ataturk
          +6
          9 July 2012 07: 30
          Quote: dark_sp
          Heading to Fashangton

          No offense my friend. I myself do not have much love for the United States, I can even say I hate PEN-DO-SIUA, but the pictures that you post are, by God, children's pictures. NUCLEAR EXPLOSION tanks go and soldiers are nearby. We are talking on serious topics here ... This is not a game of RED ALERT.

          Better write something, all of a sudden you say what is reasonable and fair.

          NO offense.
          1. dark_sp
            +7
            9 July 2012 08: 14
            I don’t take offense, even in something I agree with you!
            "Having passed almost half of your way
            I’ve seen a prophetic dream for ten years now:
            America in strait ruins
            Washington is burnt to the ground.
            At the bottom of the hudson is a statue of liberty,
            A landmine exploded into pieces.
            And despite the rain, the weather
            Attack aircraft come to New York -
            Rampant avalanche
            Retribution of the punishing skies.
            America in strait ruins. -
            Islamic sword and orthodox cross.
            Punished by my own pride.
            A right, fair trial is being completed. -
            Las Vegas, conquered by the desert.
            Hollywood turned into a desert.
            The reader will ask: "I had a dream, but what's the point?
            The legend is fresh, there is no incarnation ... "
            Comrade, believe! It’s not long to wait
            Just a couple of years.
          2. btsypulin
            +4
            9 July 2012 10: 59
            AtaturkGood afternoon, I support, it looks like a kindergarten.
  3. Ataturk
    +4
    9 July 2012 07: 04
    The key factor in determining Iran’s interests in hydrocarbon production in the Caspian is geography, which leaves Iran with a minimal sector of the southern part of the sea, and geology - so far no industrial reserves have been found in the bowels of this deep-water section.

    In 1998-2003 Russia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan divided the northern part of the Caspian Sea on the principle of “divide the bottom - the water is common”



    Not many times, I have already laid out such cards, but I will post them again. I highlighted the desire of IRAN as red, the green line, the desire of Turkmenistan, and the position of Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan as blue. So it was during the USSR.

    Formally, Tehran did not recognize the northern agreements, emphasizing that “any change in the legislative regime governing the use of mineral resources of the Caspian Sea requires the consent of all five Caspian states,” but moved to a different position - equal share of the Caspian day — 20% for each country. Here, the desire of Iran is in contradiction with the positions of Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan, however, it is precisely in cooperation with these countries that Tehran should defend its fat interest.

    In Baku and Ashgabat, we would like to believe that the border of the Iranian sector passes along the line Astara (Azerbaijan) - Hasan-Kuli (Turkmenistan), which in these countries is considered the actual border between the USSR and Iran. In this case, Iran owns 11% of the seabed. If we look at the principle of the midline, then the junction of the dividing lines between Azerbaijan, Iran and Turkmenistan is located to the north and then Iran gets 13,8%. However, Tehran requires 20%. What is the difference between 11%, 13,8% and 20%? There is no big difference between the first and second options, it consists in additional space for exploration of resources, but 13,8% and 20% differ significantly - by the group of oil fields Alov, Araz and Sharg.
    1. +1
      9 July 2012 09: 04
      It would be wiser to declare only the coastal zones of the Caspian Sea as territorial waters of the adjoining country, and declare the rest of the waters neutral, otherwise there will never be a solution. And interestingly, was such an option considered at all?
      1. 0
        9 July 2012 10: 20
        For someone who does not sheepish the opponent, but cowardly puts a minus. Is there something missing in intelligence?

        Sugar has the exact opposite - it's soy sauce!
        It is black, liquid and salty!
        1. kNow
          0
          9 July 2012 14: 25
          Quote: alexneg
          For someone who does not sheepish the opponent, but cowardly puts a minus. Is there something missing in intelligence?

          would be intellect- would answer, corrected your minus
      2. +1
        9 July 2012 11: 55
        The problem is not in the waters about in the bottom of the sea! Here are the deposits at the bottom and are divided. And fatty pieces are not tolerably divided.
        And as for intelligence, your cover was torn off.
        1. 0
          9 July 2012 13: 51
          For your information, I do not put any minuses to anyone, except as to one person who began to minus all my comments, both past and the year before. I did the same for Homa, and in his head the revolution immediately occurred.
          It’s impossible to chop down a question with this question. First, it is necessary to demarcate the borders, and then divide the bottom. In the version that is now, they will never agree. And neutral waters for these five countries should be different, not only information wars, but also real physical ones.
          But is it necessary?
          There should be transparent trade routes to rule out interstate piracy in these waters.
  4. AIvanA
    +2
    9 July 2012 07: 05
    Yes, now the gentlemen of the Democrats have put the Middle East on their ears, the Caucasus is not calm in itself, now it remains to arm and train the Caspian region, and who does not want to arrange the opposition and, accordingly, the Libyan scenario. It feels like the leaders of the countries that make a deal with American democratic fascism do not understand that they will have to pay, it's like a deal by the devil, because they do nothing for nothing.
    1. Ataturk
      +2
      9 July 2012 07: 25
      Quote: AIvanA
      It feels like the leaders of countries that are making a deal with American democratic fascism will have to pay, it's like a deal by the devil, because they do nothing for nothing.


      Of course, free cheese only happens in a mousetrap. And what should Azerbaijan do? Here the comrades from Iran decided to supply eyeliners to the Caspian. How to protect your interests? Have you seen what they want? If Russia would have laid out such a card and said, I WANT THIS SO .... and Iran does so. Azerbaijan is arming itself, not against Russia, as sometimes cheap corrupt media say against Iran !!! And you yourself understand, some neighbors want land, while others want the bottom of the sea. What remains for Azerbaijan to do? The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Russia doesn’t quarrel with Iran. FORMALLY. Although a little further into history, there were plenty of wars! So they are the same friends in Russia as a ballerina from me. The Persians themselves are not angels either. I do not respect those countries that have land claims.
      ASKED IRAN Damn, what the fuck, you were silent about the divide during the Soviet era, what do you now have the desire to share as you want? Who are you anyway? And then many are surprised why Azerbaijan is friends with this or that. SO WHAT TO DO? bow your head? Keep silent? To poke? Become a lo-ha? Give what is yours?

      For me, the Nazis, this is exactly Iran, although the more fascists are the WEST. But Iran is not far behind.

      They kill Azerbaijanis there, and who kills? Police. Just the other day there was a conference of poets, 2 Azerbaijanis were arrested, not at all !!!! Like spies. Although these poets have nothing to do with politics !!! How damn after that respect them?

      And Muslims are also called, and their AYATOLLA, excuse me, ZVISTIES the Azerbaijanis are fraternal Shiite people. Tfu.
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        +2
        9 July 2012 07: 59
        hee-hee-hee, "and Muslims are called" for the first time or what? Muslims swearing by Allah deceive the Gentiles? do you see the same gentiles for them?
        ps But seriously, is the prevalence of Azerbaijan in Azerbaijan?
        1. Ataturk
          +3
          9 July 2012 08: 07
          Quote: Yoshkin Cat
          Is Sunism Widespread in Azerbaijan?

          Do you know what the trouble is humanity? This is the saying of divide and conquer.
          For me it does not matter who the person is by faith, the main thing is that he be a real person. And the fact that you are a Christian and I am a Muslim and a barbed wire between us is the main misfortune of mankind.

          I believe in a higher power, someone who is stronger than me and all taken together, who breathed life into our land. I am skeptical of religions, although I come from a Sunni family. My name is Omar and the name Omar is the worst name of the Shiites. They hate that name.

          Do you know what a paradox is?

          When you were born you did not know who you were by faith or religion. When I read in the Torah, the Bible and the Qur'an that the FIRST MAN WAS ADAM and the FIRST WOMAN EVA, it was enough for me !!!

          I have already concluded to myself !!!
          1. +3
            9 July 2012 14: 08
            Quote: Ataturk
            I believe in a higher power, someone who is stronger than me and all taken together, who breathed life into our land. I am skeptical about religions

            100%! Moreover, in my opinion, Faith is the attitude of an individual to the awareness of his existence, some call it as "knowledge of the truth." Religion is the use of the above relationship for the purpose of a certain community.
          2. Yarbay
            -1
            9 July 2012 15: 14
            ** My name is Omar and the name Omar is the worst name of the Shiites ** - this is not entirely true!
            They prefer not to call children by this name, there are reasons for this!
            But I do not want to write about it here!
            I can write in the face my friend, if you want!
        2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
          +1
          9 July 2012 11: 50
          Quote: Yoshkin Cat
          But seriously, is the prevalence of Azerbaijan in Azerbaijan?

          As a percentage, 30 Sunites, 60 Shiites!
        3. Yarbay
          +1
          9 July 2012 12: 11
          You have absolutely no idea about Islam and Muslims!
          A Muslim can swear falsely by the name of the Most High only in case of mortal danger !!
      2. 0
        9 July 2012 09: 19
        Of course, free cheese only happens in a mousetrap.


        Such cheese is expensive, usually there appear corpses.
  5. Yarbay
    +4
    9 July 2012 07: 12
    *** Already now, with the help of the USA, Azerbaijan has created a unit of the naval special forces. *** - A unit of the special forces in Azerbaijan was created immediately after independence on the basis of the USSR special forces base!
    ** It is expected that the armament of this unit will soon be replenished with special means of production of NATO countries. ** - It is not clear, do you still think they have special means of the Warsaw Pact?
    *** As part of the Coast Guard of Azerbaijan (which, perhaps, is a more developed structure than the fleet) *** - what do you call the Coast Guard ?? I would say that the border troops and the fleet as a whole have different tasks !!
    And the fleet is a much more developed structure!
  6. 0
    9 July 2012 07: 32
    All this is a big game, the goal of which is to approach the borders of Russia from the south.
    So we need to make every effort to deter NATO in this direction.
    Otherwise, it will be necessary to dramatically increase in this direction both the army and the naval group.
    I already keep silent that from the Caspian you can get to the "mother dear", i.e. The Volga, along which you can pass all of Russia. God forbid this will become a road for terrorists. This will be a complete kaput. River routes are usually much less protected than overland routes. So the Volga is a great way for sabotage groups to quickly get to any place in Central Russia
    1. 0
      9 July 2012 08: 23
      Well, at least burst, but not a single AUG will get into the Caspian Sea, geography does not allow. That the ring over Russia is shrinking, I don't quite agree. At one time, Shah Reza was a NATO vassal, in fact, NATO wants to regain positions, primarily beneficial to corporations in oil and gas production and transit, destroyed by the Islamic revolution. The rest of the Caspian states - the next stage after the destruction of the USSR and division into weak dwarfs, it is time for dwarfs to sit on a kukan. If you are small and weak, and you still have oil with uranium, then get ready, the matrix sees you. Moreover, with all the disrespect for NATO, I can state that it is easier in Russia's southern neighbors to have NATO vassal states that rent 1 tank from their neighbors, and not to have crazy fanatics like Shiites who spank an atomic bomb, and Wahhabis and even huyweibins ... The Turkmen are snapping at us, economic competitors, in the current situation, the arrival of Chinese to them is inevitable. With Azerbaijan, everything is complicated, the Ottomans claim it. They are crying that NATO is threatening us, surrounding us, but in the West they are our close neighbors and nothing but troubles with missile defense (which is still virtual), NATO units on our borders have undergone a massive reduction after the confrontation. If so it would be necessary to destroy us, then they do not need to crawl up to us from the South, this can be done perfectly from the West, or from any point of the ocean where "Ohio" gurgles. NATO members are bureaucrats and progmatists from Western Europe in their mentality, at the heart of their actions are the needs of transnational corporations that need war not for self-destruction, but for enrichment. Why did they defend (in words) and feed impoverished Georgia? Absolutely not because of love and friendship, but to create a springboard for capturing wells from so far independent neighbors. Economically poor countries are more likely to be captured by means of "flower" revolutions, because the poor, the minimum costs are estimated at a few million dollars for opposition and rallies, but war is expensive, even for NATO. During the "seizure" of Georgia, they spent money, at a cost like two "tamahawks". England has no friends, only interests, and Russia, you know who the friends are, that's all the arithmetic. And to climb to defend hostile Iran and Turkmenistan, let them go.
      1. -1
        9 July 2012 11: 11
        Is anyone talking about AUG?
        I mean pretty compact ships, with good weapons.
  7. Ataturk
    +1
    9 July 2012 07: 46
    Quote: volkan
    All this is a big game, the goal of which is to approach the borders of Russia from the south.
    So we need to make every effort to deter NATO in this direction.


    On the one hand, this is correct, but on the other hand. How can you make an effort?

    The options are as follows.

    1) Help Iran with everything you can! Thus spoil relations with Azerbaijan.
    2) In its direction, drag the southern countries. That is, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan.

    I do not know how with Turkmenistan, but things are different with Azerbaijan. If Russia begins to help Azerbaijan, then Armenia opens the door for NATO.

    So it’s very difficult to make a choice.
    1. +4
      9 July 2012 08: 26
      Greetings Ataturk
      I am saying that Russia needs to initiate the adoption by the countries of the Caspian region of a set of rules and regulations that would prohibit the presence of other countries in one form or another in the Caspian at the state level.
      Well, among themselves, the participants will somehow agree.
      And here Russia does not have to take sides. Moreover, our country is still trying to equally develop good neighborly relations with everyone.
      So, when such documents are adopted (and, of course, important, their implementation), the wolves will be full and the sheep are safe.
      1. +1
        9 July 2012 08: 45
        Dear Volkan, I'm sorry, I’ll stick into your debate, but you think according to your Slavic mentality, where there is a need for friendship and justice. Turkmens are afraid and hate us, at night they write on behalf of Skobelev, they will soon surrender to the Chinese. A typical example is Japan, the Americans bombed them with atomic bombs, made their concubines from their women, and they love them, and the Russians did not do this despite the military defeat, so they are hysterical in our direction. Everyone, besides the Russians, understands only brute physical strength, take Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov and say that we will cut off his eggs, vividly draw a map as needed.
        1. +1
          9 July 2012 11: 08
          What to do Dear ss-20, if I believe that this is the most correct mentality. wink
      2. Ataturk
        +2
        9 July 2012 08: 45
        Quote: volkan
        Greetings Ataturk

        Good morning Andrew.

        Quote: volkan
        Moreover, our country is still trying to equally develop good neighborly relations with everyone.

        You write everything correctly.

        You plus
      3. Yarbay
        +4
        9 July 2012 10: 21
        Good afternoon, dear Andrew!
        In principle, you write everything correctly and I am sure that a set of rules and regulations will be adopted!
        Several years ago, I remember how anxious during the first demarches of Iran, journalists asked G. Aliyev that they say how you assess and what will happen ??
        To which he replied that the question was not serious and Iran would not go anywhere!
        I also think that in the Caspian Sea, Russia is strong, in many ways the only force, and given that almost all other countries support it in this matter, Iran may even end up without access to the Caspian Sea!
        1. +4
          9 July 2012 11: 14
          Hello Alibek
          I had in mind a little different, not Russia's dominance in the Caspian (although of course I have nothing against it), but a just division, in which only the countries of this region should participate, without any other countries.
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            9 July 2012 11: 30
            Dear Andrew!
            I am sure that there is no alternative to what you have said!
            Who else can participate in the separation ??
            I heard that Turkmenistan is going to appeal to the international court, but I do not believe it will be more expensive for them!
            1. +2
              9 July 2012 13: 40
              Good to hear Dear Alibek
          2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
            -1
            9 July 2012 14: 32
            Quote: volkan
            I had in mind a little different, not Russia's dominance in the Caspian (although of course I have nothing against it), but a just division, in which only the countries of this region should participate, without any other countries.

            Here, as on a chessboard, if Russia is "check and queen" in aggregate, then all other states are figures in one way or another significant for the great power ambitions of Russia. The question is in which direction Russia will castle - towards Iran or towards its neighbors in the CIS!
  8. Fox
    -1
    9 July 2012 08: 01
    well, azerbauds are not honey either ... and what’s done with the Russians ...
    1. Ataturk
      +2
      9 July 2012 08: 12
      Quote: Fox
      well, azerbods


      As I understand it, are you from a squad with an aerodynamic head?
  9. 0
    9 July 2012 08: 39
    "Iran is the only one of the five Caspian states that has direct access to the Indian Ocean, which gives it advantages over Turkey and Russia when transporting energy resources from the Caspian. Iran has the longest coastline in the Persian and Oman Gulfs, and the most practical route to open seas and the only land road to the Arab world. Iran has easy access to China and the Far East through Central Asia ... "

    And precisely because of this, our Western allies will not tire of repeating that:
    1: Iran Supports International Terrorism
    2: Iran Supports Mass Executions of Peaceful Syrian Militants
    3: Iran develops nuclear weapons
    4. Iran illegally occupies US oil fields
  10. Ataturk
    +9
    9 July 2012 08: 51
    I just read the news. It's nice that in our country, they react so quickly to the misfortunes of neighbors.

    A FRIEND IS SPEAKED IN TROUBLE.





    To be honest, I am very offended and insulted when in Russians, I repeat the Russians and not the Kremlin, considers the people of Azerbaijan as an enemy of their own right. I said that we know how to make friends and appreciate true friendship too.


    BTW, my condolences to families who have lost their homes and their families.
    1. +6
      9 July 2012 10: 14
      Dear Ataturk .... I DO NOT CONSIDER AZERBAIJANI AN ENEMIES .... And there are many like me .. fellow
      1. Ataturk
        +1
        9 July 2012 17: 42
        Quote: ariy_t
        Dear Ataturk .... I DO NOT CONSIDER AZERBAIJANI'S ENEMIES .... And there are many like me.


        Thanks, nice to hear that.
    2. +2
      9 July 2012 11: 08
      Hey, in trouble everyone should help each other! And we helped the Japanese after last March! But they didn’t love us anymore!
    3. +7
      9 July 2012 11: 17
      Ataturk
      As ss-20 correctly noted, we have a Slavic mentality that wants friendship and justice, therefore the bulk of our people are tolerant and respectful to everyone, regardless of nationality or religion.
      Personally, I respect and will respect any people and country.
      But as long as this country (people) respects me and my country.
      I think this is fair.
  11. Goga
    0
    9 July 2012 08: 56
    The leaders of the Caspian littoral states, the former republics of the USSR, reasonable, adequately perceiving reality people - I do not think that the United States will be so easy to provoke our neighbors. And the fact that they supply weapons - well, give - take it, and how to use it yourself decide.
    1. Ataturk
      +1
      9 July 2012 09: 10
      Quote: Gogh
      The leaders of the Caspian littoral states, the former republics of the USSR, reasonable, adequately perceiving reality people - I do not think that the United States will be so easy to provoke our neighbors. And the fact that they supply weapons - well, give - take it, and how to use it yourself decide.

      plus you

      I have nothing to add!)))
      1. Goga
        +3
        9 July 2012 09: 50
        Ataturk - greetings, Colleague, - It is no longer a secret for anyone - the United States is systematically working to create an "arc of instability" - from Kosovo through the Middle East, Transcaucasia, Central Asia, Afghanistan and to Tibet and the Chinese Uyghurs. I really hope that on the INNER Caspian Sea such a dirty trick as YUS will not take root.
        1. 0
          9 July 2012 10: 17
          Dear Goga ... The United States will not survive without tensions .... This country is generally contraindicated in this world .. They now have one chance, the war is victorious and the more the better ....
    2. Yarbay
      +3
      9 July 2012 10: 23
      Dear Igor!
      I think that the United States would have even less chance if Russian policy were consistent and more pragmatic!
      But in many ways I support you, or rather your opinion!
  12. Cadet787
    +3
    9 July 2012 11: 22
    As soon as the situation escalates in any corner of the world, donkey ears of foams to owls peep out against its background.
  13. kNow
    +4
    9 July 2012 14: 19
    Why are all the problems of the Caspian and the situation around Iran reduced to accusations of Azerbaijan?
    Western campaigns produce oil from Azerbaijan - and this is because they have the most advanced technology to date. The same campaigns operate on the territory of Russia and other oil-producing countries ...
    Russian Lukoil also operates in Azerbaijan.

    Their navy in the Caspian Sea reinforce everything. And the allegations about Israeli bases, etc. - just nonsense, based on a newspaper duck.

    We do not want a war on our land for the sake of someone else's interests, even Iranian, even American ...
    1. Artsakh
      -1
      9 July 2012 14: 26
      That's for sure. You are generally "innocence itself" wink
      1. kNow
        +1
        9 July 2012 16: 39
        Quote: Artsakh
        That's for sure. You are generally "innocence itself"

        We - unlike you - did not occupy the neighboring lands. We are sitting on our native land and protecting it.
        1. Artsakh
          -1
          9 July 2012 16: 45
          Nakhichevan, Artsakh, Utik - this is a list of questions to the "Azerbaijani" Turks.
          If you're talking about Anatolian Turks, then Van, Kars - the list is more than impressive.
          1. kNow
            +3
            9 July 2012 16: 47
            Quote: Artsakh
            Nakhichevan, Artsakh, Utik


            Do you know the meaning of these place names? laughing
            1. Artsakh
              0
              9 July 2012 16: 54
              Do you need to explain something?
              So you ask specifically, do not be shy.
              1. kNow
                +1
                9 July 2012 16: 56
                Quote: Artsakh
                Do you need to explain something?
                So you ask specifically, do not be shy.


                What is Artsakh? wink climbed into Wikipedia? laughing
                1. Artsakh
                  0
                  9 July 2012 17: 04
                  It will not be clear - ask

                  The Department of the Peoples of the Caucasus of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences received a request from the publishers of the almanac "Kamurj", which raises the question of the legality of using the Artsakh toponym for the name of Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as the prescription of the Armenian population in this territory. In general, the entire history of mankind on our planet is the history of endless movements of the population, the emergence of new ethnic groups and the disappearance of the ancients, the change of ethnonyms, toponyms, languages ​​of the population of certain territories. suffice it to say that even one and a half millennia ago there were no Russians, or even ancient Russians. There were already Slavs (Slovenes), Wends, Antes, but they were not on the territory of the present Russian Federation either. Over the past two thousand years, the borders of the territory called Armenia have also changed greatly. But the ethnos that called itself Armenians (hai), during these two millennia already existed (it is reliably known from about the 6th century BC) and was represented, interlaced with other peoples and tribes, at least in the entire interfluve of the Araks and Chickens, and therefore on the territory of present-day Nagorno-Karabakh. The name Artsakh existed already at that time. It should be noted that this name is not etymologized from the Armenian language, but it is well etymologized on the material of the Nakh languages ​​(Chechen, Ingush) as "woodland". And in general, in Eastern Armenia, as in Georgia, there are many toponyms of the Nakh appearance, which allows us to assert that before the Armenians and Georgians, various Nakh-Dagestan tribes lived in these regions, closely related to the historically well-known Urarto-Hurrians, and just like them , from the last centuries BC, undergoing a gradual armenization... At the same time, various Iranian dialects are spreading on the territory of Caspian Azerbaijan, both northern and southern, which are still spoken in a number of areas of Azerbaijan and Dagestan, under the name of the Tat language (or languages). The very name Azerbaijan (Atrpatakan, Aderbedgan) goes back to the name of the ancient Persian satrapy Atropatena, meaning "the land of the lord of fire," apparently due to the presence of fire worship rituals associated with natural outflows of flammable gases on the shores of the Caspian Sea. During the entire 1st millennium AD, i.e. From two to one thousand years ago, the Iranian languages, including primarily the Azeri language, are increasingly spreading on the territory of present-day eastern and northern Azerbaijan, displacing and assimilating the Dagestan languages, mainly of the Lezghin group, including ancient Albanian (not to be confused with the language of the Balkan Albania related to Indo-European languages). This process is not finished in our time, and to this day in many villages of northern Azerbaijan they speak the Tat and Lezgin languages ​​and dialects. Only about the 10th century did the process of the formation of the modern Turkic Azerbaijani language begin and only by the 14th century. Until the 14th century, it is inappropriate to talk about the existence of a Turkic-speaking Azerbaijani people. In the area of ​​present-day Karabakh, before the spread of the Turkic tribes, there were two Iranian toponyms: Bag-i-safed (white garden) and Bag-i-siyah (black garden). They reflected the opposition of the lowland steppe regions, which were bright from summer burnout, and the wooded regions of the highlands that seemed from a distance black. Starting from the 14th century, these names were gradually replaced by Türkic calques: Ag-dam (white house) and Kara-bag (black garden). At that time, only the Armenian population lived on the present territory of Nagorno-Karabakh at that time, the Azeri Turks began to settle there in small numbers only from the 17th century, although before that for several centuries they had used in the summer season, more or less within the framework of peaceful coexistence with the Armenians , alpine pastures of Nagorno-Karabakh as summer sites (yayla). The use of the ancient toponym Artsakh to designate Nagorno-Karabakh is just as legitimate as the use of the toponym Alania along with Ossetia, or Britain along with England.
                  1. kNow
                    +1
                    9 July 2012 17: 06
                    I ask you - read it yourself several times, maybe you will understand something. If you do not understand - ask - I will explain laughing By the way, where did Abasszade disappear? winked
                    1. Artsakh
                      -1
                      9 July 2012 17: 09
                      Still have substantive questions?
                      1. kNow
                        +3
                        9 July 2012 17: 17
                        Quote: Artsakh
                        It should be noted that this name is not etymologized from the Armenian language, but it is well etymologized on the material of the Nakh languages ​​(Chechen, Ingush) as "woodland".


                        Say it simply - you don't know

                        Quote: Artsakh
                        But the ethnos, calling itself Armenians (hai), already existed during these two millennia (it is reliably known from about the 6th century BC) and was represented, in strip with other peoples and tribes, at least throughout the Araks and Hens, and therefore, on the territory of present Nagorno-Karabakh. The name Artsakh already existed at that time.


                        That is, the name Artsakh was before the Armenians. Do you know what tribes lived on these lands before the Armenians? Do not you know. There lived the tribes of the brave Saks - Ər Sak - Er Sakov, from there the name.

                        May I ask you one question about Armenia? smile
                      2. Artsakh
                        -2
                        9 July 2012 17: 21
                        What are you interested in "brave piss"?
                      3. kNow
                        0
                        9 July 2012 17: 27
                        Quote: Artsakh

                        What are you interested in "brave piss"?

                        wah-wah, witty invented laughing I don’t seem to pretend to be the brave saka, unlike the whole cohort of highs :)

                        Question:
                        Why do you call yourself a hai, and everyone else calls you Armenians? If you do not know - I can help, the main thing you ask is - do not be shy. We consider this the elimination of your illiteracy :)
                      4. Ataturk
                        +3
                        9 July 2012 17: 49
                        Quote: kNow
                        Why do you call yourself a hai, and everyone else calls you Armenians?


                        There are so many falsifications, so many lies that one is amazed to see the unheard-of impudence of these Armenians - who are striving to grab something that does not belong to them. And most of all my indignation was strengthened when I became convinced that some foreign states not only know our true history, but also deliberately distort history in favor of the Armenians - and even with such generosity and with such pressure, as if their whole existence depended on it. Recently, we noticed in the interior of the Colosseum (in Rome) an allegedly ancient map in which Armenia as a state is also depicted. But there was no state called "Armenia", let alone a "great" one. To recognize the existence of "Armenia" as a state means to cast a shadow on the real history of other countries and other nationalities that really had an ancient history and which really existed in this area at that very epoch. There was only an ancient geographic area in the southeast of Anatolia (in a small triangle west of Lake Van) called "Ərmən", "Ərməniyyə", "Ərmin" and existed in different periods as provinces of countries such as the Achaemenids and Sassanids. The inhabitants of this province were a semi-nomadic Turkic-speaking tribe, one of the ethnic branches of the Azerbaijanis themselves. The absence of sound in the pronunciation of "Ə" in other languages ​​distorts reality much. Ər-mən. The word "Ər" meant and now in some case means as "courageous", "hero", "knight

                        uot; and "husband" (as in the modern version), and the word "mən" - as the meaning of general continuity, belonging to something, like people, people, etc. That is, the general meaning can be attributed to the fact that Ərmən - translated as "heroic, courageous people". In the Hai language, this word does not mean anything. They have always been haiami - they still call themselves that. They prefer to call themselves "Armenians" and the country "Armenia" in other languages ​​- because both "hayi" and like "hayastan" were not fixed anywhere, as we say "heç it dəftərində də adları yoxdur" .... The word "hai" means "stone mason" - this word reminds of their slave times when in the XV-XVI centuries in the Stony deserts of Syria and Lebanon they worked in quarries as slaves, built houses for rich Arabs, carved tombstones for them.

                        The question naturally arises. and who they were before slavery. They were a breakaway a branch of sedentary gypsies who for the first time after a large migration from the southern slopes of the Himalayas about 900 years ago settled next to the Persians in the province of Shiraz. They sent their wives and daughters as bedding (REAL TURKEY IS AN EXAMPLE. authority in this territory. But one day, they stabbed the Persians in the back. These former gypsies attacked the caravans of the Persians at night and plundered their wealth killed many. Then the Persians, gathering large detachments, defeated them all and sold them into slavery far from the territory of present-day Iran to the slave bazaars of Damascus (Sham), Baghdad and Aleppo ..... It was not for nothing that A.S. Pushkin said about them "You are a slave, you are a thief, you are Armenian"........................ But now the lies of these hey have no boundaries. Such fictional inventions as - inventing such persons as Mesrop Mashtots - who allegedly sitting in a prison in which dungeon broke all his 32 teeth and on the basis of them created (cut out from them) the letters of the future "Armenian alphabet" in the same place .... You just laugh. ... But any sane person can, if properly informed, notice that - these pseudo-Hai letters are nothing more than "Daniel's letters" - which were brought by the Mesopotamian monk Daniel from Ethiopia ........ They were sometimes even called the Ethiopian letters (although it is). Looking at them and comparing them with the "Armenian" letters of Mesrop Mashtots, one is convinced that they are one to one a copy of those "Daniel's letters". I have seen this alphabet and compared them with each other. I was surprised that "Daniel's letters" are very similar to the Coptic alphabet, and the Coptic alphabet in many letters is similar to the ancient Slavic letters - that is, to the Cyrillic alphabet. Some of them are similar to the Latin ones, but basically they are similar to the alphabet "Cyril and Methodius". The modern "Armenian alphabet" is almost a distorted version of the same Cyrillic alphabet. Of course, this may seem ridiculous to you, but when you compare these alphabets, you will immediately catch a great similarity in them ...

                        THIS IS THIS ETHIOPE LETTER.



                        And here is KHAI ALPHABET



                      5. erkenegon
                        -3
                        9 July 2012 20: 32
                        this is not arrogance this is a disease they have such schizophrenia
                      6. Hi
                        Hi
                        -2
                        9 July 2012 20: 55
                        Eliminate illiteracy to your lobster friend
                        He has disgraced the whole world with this post about the Ethiopian alphabet.
                        What to say - Turk
                        lying, burning and continuing in the same vein
                      7. erkenegon
                        -4
                        9 July 2012 21: 28
                        sprechen zi deutch? hi, you’re already flying the German flag, but let’s give you the Iranian flag in our hands .................. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ?!
                      8. erkenegon
                        -3
                        9 July 2012 20: 30
                        what are the questions to the muddle
                  2. erkenegon
                    -2
                    9 July 2012 20: 30
                    you yourself realized that you wrote inadequate
              2. erkenegon
                -3
                9 July 2012 20: 29
                listen, if I start to explain the sheep to you, then you will die like a lamb
            2. erkenegon
              -3
              9 July 2012 20: 27
              how should he know brother got involved here
          2. erkenegon
            -2
            9 July 2012 20: 27
            if you are a khachik, then speak under your flag
      2. erkenegon
        -2
        9 July 2012 20: 25
        listen drown yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  14. aboszoda
    -3
    9 July 2012 14: 59
    Hello, friends! Today I accidentally came to visit you and read some interesting things here, including those that were not very correct from the point of view of history and geopolitics!
    There is one comrade on this forum under the nickname Ataturk who writes not very harsh words about Iran, while complaining that the Iranians allegedly hate the Sunnis, etc.
    Here are quotes from his comments on Iran:

    “I do not feel excessive pity for Iran. Not only were we some neighbors to whom the land was served, so now there are still some who have laid eyes on the bottom of the Caspian Sea, which they never belonged to. ”

    Excuse me, is this ignorance of history or ordinary dust in the eyes of forum participants? The Caspian belonged to Iran before all other states, including Russia, were formed around it! For centuries, the Caspian has been and remains to be the Iranian Sea. And then someone appears and suddenly announces that "the bottom of the Caspian has never belonged to Iran." You are mistaken, dear!
    If we go further, what else can we talk about? The thing is that Iran in 1828 concluded an agreement with Russia, according to which the Caspian Sea became the inland sea of ​​these two states. This was confirmed in the Soviet-Iranian treaty of 1921. The reality is that after the collapse of the USSR, several new states formed around the Caspian Sea, including the Republic of Azerbaijan, whose appetites exceeded all conceivable and unimaginable boundaries! Here is another quote from the statement of the same Ataturk, confirming our innocence:

    “Azerbaijanis live there in their lands, occupied lands, while they are not allowed to learn their language and much more. Discrimination".

    It is known that the so-called "Azerbaijanis", i.e. Türks were never the autochthons of this land. This is an alien element from far Altai and beyond ... Not only does the author claim that they allegedly “live there on their lands”, plus he writes that these lands are allegedly “occupied by Iranians”! Impudent lie!
    Then he writes:

    "I do not respect those countries that have land claims."

    Apparently, no one except you, Mr. Ataturk, knows the facts about Iran’s claims to foreign lands! The authorities of the Republic of Azerbaijan proclaimed as their goal the occupation of the northwestern regions of Iran starting from Tabriz, i.e. their joining the AR. And do not complain that the rights of Azerbaijanis in Iran are allegedly being violated! There, the newcomers to Turkomans have all the rights for all-round prosperity. Many of them occupy important government posts, not to mention the fact that the Spiritual Leader of Iran, Aghayi Khamenei, is a seasoned Arab. Iranian Turkoman have 300 newspapers and a host of other print and electronic publications, which can not be said about the large indigenous peoples of Azerbaijan, including Talysh, Lezghins, Avars, and others who are deprived of all these rights in the ill-fated Azerbaijan! The authorities of Azerbaijan carry out explicit discrimination against all these peoples, pursue a policy of assimilation, and repress the advanced intelligentsia of these peoples. The fate of Novruzali Mammadov, I think, is known to all forum participants. Plus, the arrest of ch. G. Mammadov, the editor of the only Talysh Voice of Talysh newspaper, is yet another proof of the anti-people essence of this power and the state as a whole with respect to the indigenous peoples of the AR!
    Finally, Mr. Ataturk complains about the LLP that the Iranians allegedly hate the Sunnis:

    “My name is Omar and the name Omar is the worst name of the Shiites. They hate that name. ”

    How can he hope for a special love for his person from the Iranians, after all that he writes about Iran and the Iranians ?!
    1. Artsakh
      -2
      9 July 2012 15: 06
      This is just a small part of the "false historical mishmash" that he (ataturk) is trying to feed to the visitors of this forum.
      1. Ataturk
        0
        9 July 2012 15: 20
        Quote: Artsakh
        This is just a small part of the "deceitful historical hodgepodge"

        YOU KHAYSKY lying machine do not equate to Azerbaijan.
        1. erkenegon
          -2
          9 July 2012 20: 36
          and they have it in their blood so don’t take it close
      2. erkenegon
        -2
        9 July 2012 20: 35
        to ignore !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Hi
          Hi
          -2
          9 July 2012 20: 57
          hear you led a bunch of unfinished
          go repent
          1. erkenegon
            -2
            9 July 2012 21: 30
            about "great khayastan" you are raving in a psychiatric hospital
      3. erkenegon
        -1
        9 July 2012 21: 01
        fed know who if you are about yourself then uuuuuuuuuuuuuzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh very self-critical
    2. Yarbay
      +4
      9 July 2012 15: 11
      David Abasszoda)))) well enough to make people laugh !!
      Well, your handwriting as well as ignorance of the subject is easy to determine))))
      this Armenian agitprom from voskopanat well does not pass here))
      1. Artsakh
        -5
        9 July 2012 15: 17
        ))))))
        lieutenant colonel - "Akella missed"
        I do not know who aboszoda.
        You are in your repertoire - they write the truth, not coloring Azerbaijan, you immediately
        ignorance of the subject
        1. Yarbay
          +4
          9 July 2012 15: 25
          David Abbaszoda)))
          Akela is still not going to miss)))
          The thing is that you do not know how to think and you do not have a creative vein to come up with something worthwhile))
          I'm already a colonel!
          I accept congratulations!))
          1. Artsakh
            -3
            9 July 2012 15: 32
            Don’t goof Albai
            brings you a flair)))))
            Leader of the Talysh Farmony Fakhraddin Revival Movement ABOSZODA
            Why have you been promoted, alibek oglu?
            Again Chiragly freed, "irrepressible asker")))))))))))))
            1. Yarbay
              +3
              9 July 2012 15: 39
              David Abaszoda)))
              I told you that you lack imagination, creativity and originality, however, as well as your entire site, it’s up to you)))))
              a minute ago you wrote- * I don't know who aboszoda. * "!!
              now write * Leader of the Movement for the revival of Talysh Farmoni Fakhraddin ABOSZODA **))))))))))))))))
              it’s necessary to be more original)))))) this absurdity is a friend of your boss Shakhnazaryan)) we know)))
              1. Artsakh
                -4
                9 July 2012 15: 43
                And you write in Google Aboszoda
                This is unlikely to take more than a minute.
                although you may have more))))
                1. Yarbay
                  +5
                  9 July 2012 15: 51
                  I say that you are not original David Abaszoda))))))))))))))))))))))))))
                  why punch someone’s nickname in google?)))) break my and what?)))))
                  Especially since he is a great friend of your vaskopalat site)))))))
                  David must grow up))))))))))))))
                  although for someone like you who has lost honor and self-esteem is a normal phenomenon))
                  1. Artsakh
                    -6
                    9 July 2012 15: 58
                    Your nickname means "lieutenant colonel"
                    So what?
                    What did you mean by this?
                    What Talysh, who writes the truth about the country of nomadic sheep-growers, is an Armenian agent? ))))))))))))))))))))
                    Apparently "honor and self-esteem" forced you for two weeks, like a parrot, to repeat the Turkish nonsense about the Turkish plane shot down in the "international sky" ????
                    1. Yarbay
                      +3
                      9 July 2012 16: 05
                      my nickname means colonel lieutenant))))))
                      This is your lieutenant colonel))))))))))
                      and you don’t find this in Google)))
                      this one who writes to the tune of high gypsies is certainly an agent who has lost honor))
                      you just wrote)))
                      1. Artsakh
                        -4
                        9 July 2012 16: 09
                        you just wrote


                        This is your main problem.
                        Come up with some kind of fairy tale and believe in it all the way))))
                        Ask Aboszod to write in Talysh and the question will disappear by itself.
                        Think creatively, Albai-ogly)))))
                      2. Yarbay
                        +4
                        9 July 2012 16: 10
                        Well, yes)))))) made laugh))))))))))))))))))))
                        David is growing up)))))))))))))))
                        albay oglu your daughter, mother, grandfather, father, son, grandson and the whole family))
                      3. Artsakh
                        -3
                        9 July 2012 16: 16
                        you in your repertoire
                        honor ended - insults went)))))
                        finish flood albay-oglu
                        have something to say write in PM
                      4. Yarbay
                        +3
                        9 July 2012 16: 18
                        who have lost honor and dignity, I’m not writing in my face))))))))))))))))))))))
                        so do not worry albai gizi))))))))))))
                      5. Artsakh
                        -6
                        9 July 2012 16: 23
                        What can know about the honor and dignity of a never-lying nomad-baranovod-oglu who never had them?
                      6. Hi
                        Hi
                        0
                        9 July 2012 20: 58
                        What can know about the honor and dignity never had them Albay-oglu
                      7. erkenegon
                        -1
                        9 July 2012 21: 32
                        and what can a haychik stubbed behind the German flag is hiding behind someone else’s blood in your blood
                      8. erkenegon
                        -1
                        9 July 2012 20: 39
                        who are you ala go let's see you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      9. erkenegon
                        -1
                        9 July 2012 20: 58
                        YOU WHO LET'S GO GO GOODBY!
                      10. 0
                        25 August 2012 12: 43
                        Hei Gypsies is what he called the Armenians ...
            2. erkenegon
              -1
              9 July 2012 20: 37
              went away from here .............................
            3. erkenegon
              -3
              9 July 2012 20: 59
              Yans don't bury yourself
        2. erkenegon
          -2
          9 July 2012 20: 36
          fuck off //////////////////////////////////////////////// ///
    3. Ataturk
      +4
      9 July 2012 15: 19
      Quote: aboszoda
      The Caspian belonged to Iran even before all other states were formed around it,

      These words are enough to complete the process of conversation with you.
      What do you think only you taught history? I will soon prove to you in detail and to whom and what belonged.
    4. erkenegon
      -2
      9 July 2012 20: 34
      go to Iran and speak in Turkic immediately grind the bones to you, but then we'll talk
      1. Hi
        Hi
        -1
        9 July 2012 20: 59
        where did this super secret miracle of ergenekon come from ???
        1. erkenegon
          -1
          9 July 2012 21: 34
          brains if not here, and here, worms crawl out of a hole like you
    5. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      -1
      10 July 2012 09: 39
      Quote: aboszoda

      Hello, friends! Today accidentally came to visit you

      And in vain, WOULD WALK ON YOUR DEAR! fool
  15. aboszoda
    -4
    9 July 2012 16: 20
    Friends! For 800 years of living on Iranian soil, these "yarbayis" have not even learned the usual culture of communication! If you have something to say, write at your own pleasure, but do not offend others!
    I am Aboszoda Fakhraddin, a Talysh by nationality, I have never written under a false name anywhere and am ready to answer any of your questions, gentlemen "Yarbai"!
    1. Yarbay
      +5
      9 July 2012 16: 23
      David))))) better answer the questions of your boss from the vaskopalat Shakhnazaryan)))))))))))))))))
      and tries you need someone to ask you something?)))))))
    2. Artsakh
      -6
      9 July 2012 16: 27
      Dear Fahraddin.
      "irrepressible asker" alibek, known here under the nickname yarbai, is firmly convinced that you and I are one person laughing
      This once again confirms the "unlimited intellectual power" of the nomadic sheep breeders from the so-called "Azerbaijan"
    3. kNow
      +2
      9 July 2012 16: 44
      Hi David Fakhraddin Abasszadeh, can I ask you a question?
      1. Yarbay
        +3
        9 July 2012 16: 49
        Dear know!
        You can ask him))))))))
        they just have financial difficulties)))
        they write from one computer, they have to wait a long time to answer))))))))
    4. Ataturk
      +1
      9 July 2012 17: 31
      Quote: aboszoda
      I am Aboszoda Fakhraddin, Talysh by nationality

      Sly. Traitors to their people cannot have a nationality. If the enemies of your people turn out to be your DEAR, then what can I tell you.
      The Talysh people you are talking about shed their blood in Karabakh and what are you talking about?
    5. erkenegon
      -2
      9 July 2012 20: 41
      maybe you’ll write me aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I will answer you figured it out for about 800 years
      1. Hi
        Hi
        -2
        9 July 2012 21: 00
        who needs you
        the next "fearless asker"?
        1. erkenegon
          -1
          9 July 2012 21: 35
          and who needs you hayastani
    6. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      -2
      10 July 2012 10: 26
      Quote: aboszoda
      Talysh by nationality

      It is no accident that you don’t cook your head after 12 o’clock in the afternoon, slow down completely! Look at the time of your comment! laughing
  16. aboszoda
    -3
    9 July 2012 16: 43
    Dear Artsakh! Don't pay attention to them! Yes, I am proud to be a friend and brother of Mr. L. Shakhnazaryan! At the same time, I would like to remind Lukoshenko's words that "it is better to be a dictator than a homosexual"! Some of them are "yarbai", someone who knows who? None of them ever dares to write under their own name. Therefore, they do not want to believe that someone can perform under their own name! Here, look, one of them is some kind of "buy", the other calls himself "Ataturk", who is a Jew by nationality, whom the Anatolian Turks "chose" as their father! These are they, incomprehensible, uncivilized ... They have nothing to say in an honest dialogue, so they immediately go on to insults. They themselves believed in what their historians write, and then they powder their brains in the hope that maybe someone other than them will also believe in these stories ...
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      9 July 2012 16: 48
      *** Yes, I am proud that I am a friend and brother of Mr. L. Shahnazaryan! *** - so you are a brother or friend ??))))
      or maybe you still feed from his hands?))))))))
      I mean, is it better for you to be a pederast than an honest person ??)))
      and as I understand it, david is not doing right with his duties as a provocator and the wax chamber decided to send you ??? a barman Talysh?)))))
      1. Artsakh
        -2
        9 July 2012 16: 52
        albay oglu
        20 minutes ago you were sure that I was writing this))))))))))))
        you are mistaken in many ways also in life
        1. Yarbay
          0
          9 July 2012 16: 54
          my david girl)))
          so I'm still sure))))))))))))))
          1. Artsakh
            -1
            9 July 2012 16: 57
            )))))))))))))))))))))))
            old, I have long known that you are GAY))))))
            "old, deceitful, and even GAY")))))
        2. Yarbay
          +3
          9 July 2012 17: 04
          I'm still sure)))))))))))))
          1. Artsakh
            -5
            9 July 2012 17: 13
            so I'm talking about too))))))))))))))))))
            you are "solid in mind - like an oak tree"))))
            1. erkenegon
              -2
              9 July 2012 20: 47
              to ignore ......................................... !!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              !!!!!!
      2. Ataturk
        +1
        9 July 2012 17: 34
        Quote: Yarbay
        dumplings Talysh?)))))


        Gardash, don’t you feel bad about talking to him? He is a traitor. Therefore, he is in Russia and not in Azerbaijan. He writes DEAR ARTSAKH, is this not enough to spit and forget? Do not write to him, too much attention for the traitor !!!
    2. kNow
      +3
      9 July 2012 16: 52
      Excerpt from Wikipedia article

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Абосзода,_Фахраддин

      Upon returning to Azerbaijan, Abboszoda gave an interview to the APA Azerbaijani agency, in which he declared his loyalty to Azerbaijan and his government and the negative attitude towards the Azerbaijani nationalist opposition to Aliyev’s regime:
      I am an Azerbaijani, a citizen of Azerbaijan, and proud of it. When I analyze the attitude of the opposition and the authorities towards small nations, I further support the policy of Ilham Aliyev


      So davidik - feel free to step into a comedy club, you’ll make a cool one - to put it mildly, a joker
      1. Artsakh
        -3
        9 July 2012 16: 55
        Amadeus.
        Your next puncture.
        Don't you really see beyond your nose in "Azerbaijan" ???
        1. kNow
          +2
          9 July 2012 17: 00
          Did you hit your own Mr. Butt? laughing you don’t even understand how illiterate and miserable you are in your attempts to pit the peoples of Azerbaijan.

          Better write how many representatives of other peoples live in Armenia
          1. erkenegon
            -3
            9 July 2012 20: 48
            and let us send it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. Ataturk
              +1
              9 July 2012 22: 04
              Quote: erkenegon
              and let us send it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              He was sent by us a long time ago, a couple of months ago he was sent by the Russians when he insulted the Russians while living in Russia
          2. erkenegon
            -3
            9 July 2012 21: 37
            100% of haikes mono-ethnic state sorry sorry Yezidi Kurds Iozhe Armenized
      2. Yarbay
        0
        9 July 2012 16: 55
        I think a good suggestion about a comedy club))))))))))
      3. kNow
        +3
        9 July 2012 17: 10
        abaszada, where are you ??? wink
        1. Yarbay
          +1
          9 July 2012 17: 12
          According to my calculations, to appear in 7 minutes))) David should reboot, change ip))) read the thoughts of his double)))
          But in the end, I still write nonsense in my opinion)))
          looking for letters on the key))))))
          1. kNow
            +3
            9 July 2012 17: 21
            Quote: Yarbay

            According to my calculations, to appear in 7 minutes))) David should reboot, change ip))) read the thoughts of his double)))
            But in the end, I still write nonsense in my opinion)))
            looking for letters on the key))))))

            I laughed for a long time and from the heart laughing laughing
            1. Artsakh
              -6
              9 July 2012 17: 27
              What gum, Amadeus.
              You will not find such fools as you and the alibek, except for "Azerbaijan" anywhere.
              they joked themselves - they laughed themselves
              Now you can free Chiragly for the hundredth time)))
              1. kNow
                +3
                9 July 2012 17: 30
                Quote: Artsakh

                What gum, Amadeus.
                You will not find such fools as you and the alibek, except for "Azerbaijan" anywhere.
                they joked themselves - they laughed themselves
                Now you can free Chiragly for the hundredth time)))

                Gums at the court is an exclusively Armenian prerogative :)
                What did Bordyuzha say about the fact that the Armenians can not withstand the onslaught of Azerbaijanis? :) oh yeah, I promised to help ...
                Has the abaszade not faded? but he started so well ... :)
              2. erkenegon
                -2
                9 July 2012 20: 49
                A club of Artsakh is an Albanian toponym
              3. erkenegon
                -1
                9 July 2012 23: 31
                and why should anyone release something, you are draping from the republic the only way and where you just aren't! How to collect you will then be around the world.
                1. Hi
                  Hi
                  0
                  10 July 2012 00: 03
                  We "skip" from the republic
                  Askernya "skidding" into oblivion
    3. Ataturk
      +1
      9 July 2012 17: 33
      Quote: aboszoda
      Dear Artsakh!


      Only for this word DEAR ARTSAKH, all Azerbaijan people will spit on you.
      I never hid my identity, fly to Baku, I will personally teach you the history of the Talysh and the Azerbaijani people.
      1. kNow
        +3
        9 July 2012 17: 34
        don’t worry countryman, it was David again :)
        1. Ataturk
          +1
          9 July 2012 17: 57
          Quote: kNow
          don’t worry countryman, it was David again :)

          What can you expect from them when many great people talk about them .. for example

          And the world famous writer Cesare Lombroso writes in his book "Woman Criminal and Prostitute": "Anais revered goddess of prostitution in Armenia, whose temple resembled the temple of Melitta in Babylon. Around this temple were vast fields surrounded by high walls, behind which lived women who dedicated themselves to this goddess. Entrance here was allowed only to strangers. Priests and priestesses of this temple were elected from representatives and representatives of the most noble and noble families among Armenians, and the duration of the service to their goddess was always determined by their relatives. Leaving from there, these women left everything that they earned in favor of the temple, and successfully married, and their suitors inquired in the temple about their behavior. The girl who was visited by the largest number of foreigners was considered the most coveted bride"

          what can we expect more from them ?! Yes, all !!!
          1. erkenegon
            -1
            9 July 2012 20: 51
            A.S. Pushkin you are a slave you are a coward ............................ who guesses a poem!
            1. Hi
              Hi
              0
              9 July 2012 23: 03
              You ignoramus
              Have you ever read A.S. Pushkin, whom you quote?
              Heydar-oglu, send him a volume. You can even make a free translation into "Azerbaijani", you translate everything for nothing, so at least you can do something useful.
              1. Ataturk
                +2
                9 July 2012 23: 08
                Quote: Hai
                Have you ever read A.S. Pushkin, whom you quote?

                How can you not read such a great poet who wrote such a catchphrase about hai)))))))))
                1. Hi
                  Hi
                  -1
                  9 July 2012 23: 19
                  So can you quote the whole poem, Omar-oglu?
          2. erkenegon
            0
            9 July 2012 23: 28
            no, I’ll just tell the chickens to laugh they ask one haik Suvorov who is Arminin in response, and Gorbachev is also Arminin and Bush too, but what about in response !!!!!!!!!
            Comments are unnecessary to judge you gentlemen!
            1. Hi
              Hi
              -4
              10 July 2012 00: 56
              hear, asker-kuram laughs,
              why did you lose the first Artsakh war?
              like everyone is so brave, you’re trying to equal the mossad, but we treble you like rags
              why is that?
              why are you lying all the time?
              Do you even know what Erkenegon is?
              who is Veli Kuchuk, the head of the erkenegon department at MIT, do you know?
              as under his leadership, your fellow tribesmen killed Meskhetian Turks old people, children, women near Shelley and Agdam you know?
              what in "Azerbaijan" people without honor like you and Omar-oglu call the events in Khojaly.
              Somehow the "genocide" in Khojaly does not fit, and for some reason the corpses are near the main base of Askerni, 6 km away. from Aghdam?
        2. Hi
          Hi
          -3
          9 July 2012 22: 54
          "Don't worry, fellow countryman. Let's go better free Chiragly"
          Amadeus - are you the same nonsense as your fellow tribesmen?
          Or didn’t you release Chiraglu in the first decade of June?
          1. erkenegon
            +1
            9 July 2012 23: 25
            how many of you are left 1 million eat or less eat such a song everyone run run run ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, !
          2. kNow
            +1
            10 July 2012 19: 47
            Quote: Hai
            Amadeus - are you the same nonsense as your fellow tribesmen?

            complete lack of education

            Quote: Hai
            Or didn’t you release Chiraglu in the first decade of June?

            But did our Ministry of Defense give such information? or fear has big eyes, David is immortal :)
            1. Hi
              Hi
              0
              10 July 2012 20: 29
              Azerbaijani pro-government website Pat.az He told the good news: the valiant askernaia liberated the village of Chiragly of the Agdam (now Akna) district, "and another village in the Fizuli (Varanda) district." The correspondent was so happy about the "liberation" of the "Azerbaijani villages" that he did not even have time to clarify the name of the village in the "Fizuli" district. The "news" about the release of Chiragly was immediately confirmed by the front-line correspondent of the Azerbaijani television channel ANS, for some reason sitting on the social network Facebook. After that, the good news about "liberation from the Armenian occupation of Chiragly and another village in the Fizuli region" was picked up by other Azerbaijani agencies: haggin.az., Tia.az and so on.

              Azerbaijan instantly swept in joyful euphoria. Khanum shouted “Hurray!”, “And threw bras into the air”, street prostitutes and prostitutes, showing examples of sacrificial patriotism, offered their clients free service. At the intersection of Heydar Aliyev, Aziz Aliyev and Zarifa Aliyeva Avenues, a spontaneous rally gathered, the participants of which urged Azerbaijani poets to urgently write a poem about the historical exploit of the Azerbaijani asker. The title of the poem was adopted at the rally itself: "A new Koroglu steps from Khojalu to Chiraglu." The Baku police spread a snot of happiness across the face and looked wistfully at the clubs that were out of work.

              In cities of the Republic of Azerbaijan, leaflets were handed out with a printed promise by the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense "to capture Karabakh in 10 days." At the prompt of the activists of the instantly formed “10 Days Committee”, on their foreheads people began to display the number 1. The Musavat statistician who spoke at the rally for some reason recalled the hated Soviet years: “If the Communists managed to fulfill the five-year plans in 4 years, then we, the Transcaucasian Turks, are obliged to reduce 10 days to one week. "

              Since no one in Azerbaijan knew the name of “liberated from the Armenian occupation” of a village in the “Fizuli” region, a new expression somehow spontaneously appeared: “The Armed Forces of Azerbaijan seized a number of territories.” In a word, the “military successes” of Azerbaijan grew every hour, and soon on the Aliyev Crossroads they started talking about the capture of Sabirabad, Kurdamir, Hajikabul, Imishli and ... a number of other territories.

              The firm and victorious tread of the Azerbaijani Askerni soon reached ... Tbilisi. The host of the “Spectrum” program of the Caucasus channel, a certain David Akobardia, urgently invited Mamuka Areshidze, a political scientist, to the program. It was necessary for the acobardy to understand how the victories of Azerbaijan and the capture of Kurdamir’s ascetes could affect the fate of Georgia. And Areshidze did not disappoint.

              A popular Georgian political scientist described two possible scenarios for the development of hostilities, and both of them did not leave Georgia with any hope of survival. According to the first scenario, “from Mamuka,” the offensive of the armed forces of Azerbaijan will expand, “since Azerbaijan has bought weapons for billions of dollars,” and the Armenians will have no choice but to retreat to Georgian territory. The influx of a large number of armed Armenians “from Yerevan, Stagecoach (!? - SB) and other smaller Armenian cities” into Georgia will lead to chaos, unrest and collapse of Sakartvelo, Areshidze believes.

              The second scenario of the Georgian political scientist turned out to be even more sad for Georgia. According to him, the Russian troops will go to the aid of Armenia, and since they have no other road except the one that passes through Georgia, Georgia will have to defend its sovereignty with arms in hand. “Georgia will deal with Russia itself,” assures Mamuk’s viewers, “but if Javakhk also rebels, then Georgia will end.” Thus, according to the political scientist - screenwriter, Georgia will become the first victim of the Armenian-Azerbaijani war.

              While Mamuka was painting a picture of the Apocalypse of Georgia, a lady called the studio and offered her own option of saving Georgia from Saakashvili’s regime: “It is necessary to bring back Zviad Gamsakhurdia, or his associates, who died many years ago.” And then David Akopardia, frightened to an uncontrollable panic, could not stand it: “What are you talking about, Kolbatono? Here, one might say, Georgia no longer exists, but you are talking about a change of power! ”

              The combined brain efforts of Areshidze and Akobardia worked out a plan for trying to save Georgia from the Armenian-Azerbaijani war. It was decided to appeal to the embassies of Armenia and Azerbaijan in Georgia with a request to stop the war, or at least not to transfer hostilities to the territory of neighbors. “We are an island of stability in the Caucasus, and we will not allow Armenians and Azerbaijanis to clash with each other in Georgia,” the draft appeal says.

              At that time, the victorious euphoria that engulfed the inhabitants of Azerbaijan of Transcaucasian-Turkish nationality began to be replaced by sober calculation dictated by the instinct of self-preservation. Crowded mothers rushed to the air ticket offices in crowds - to buy tickets for their children, and the step-fathers of the families rushed to clean the basements of the houses and stock up on fire extinguishers. Chad sadly shifted from one foot to another, peering warily at unfamiliar passers-by: is it not from the military enlistment office, is it according to his soul? The bulk of the Baku patriots gingerly spat on their palm and energetically tried to erase the treacherous figure 1 from their foreheads.

              In Baku, the number of people arriving from settlements bordering the Republic of Artsakh has significantly increased. The treacherous rumors about the advance of the Artsakh Defense Army and the swift advance of Armenian tanks to the Kura materialized directly from the oil-soaked air. Azerbaijani Deputy Prime Minister Ali Hasanov, who made a statement to the press, tried to calm the frightened people: "The provocative attempts of the Armenians at the front indicate that the Armenians are scared." Deputy Prime Minister Hasanov, in all seriousness, convinced the audience that “Armenians are attacking our positions with fear.” In another appeal, another Ali Hasanov, who is not a deputy prime minister, but only a department head in the presidential administration of Azerbaijan, cursed "the world community and, separately, Russia" with foam at the mouth for indulging the Republic of Artsakh.

              ***

              A recording was made on Azerbaijani television with a speech by Minister of Defense Safar Abiyev, who was feverishly rehearsing a fiery speech urging the population to protect Baku from the Armenians when Fatma Agaylayeva, a third-grade student at school No. 9, called the studio. Shy and embarrassed, Fatma said that while studying the path of the heroic retreat of the Asker, she suddenly found that the village of Chiragly was always located outside the Artsakh Republic. The girl was perplexed: “How could our askers seize our village and give an occasion to the Armenians to launch a counterattack?”

              Confused television men turned to Abiyev. The latter ordered him to bring a card and call a man who can read it. An hour later, Abiyev called the boss: “I checked that we didn’t release any Chiragly, especially since it is located on the territory we control, which means that the Armenians have no reason to go on the offensive.” A lighter sigh of Ilham Aliyev burst from the narrow slit of the speaker of the telephone. “Tell it on television,” he ordered, “reassure the population.”

              After some time, all the news agencies reported good news: in the list of settlements of the Republic of Artsakh there was never a settlement called Chiraglu. And soon, from the residence of the President of Azerbaijan, the chatter of a helicopter motor ceased to sound. Azerbaijan has returned to the familiar regime of vicious and powerless yapping.
    4. erkenegon
      -1
      9 July 2012 20: 44
      I’d immediately say it, but I don’t understand one thing that you are hiding behind the Russian flag !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! poor things, they don’t have a flag, let's come up with a flag for them
    5. Kamilla
      +2
      9 July 2012 23: 36
      Quote: aboszoda
      At the same time, I would like to remind Lukoshenko's words that "it is better to be a dictator than a homosexual"!


      one jester, another jester quotes ...


      Quote: aboszoda
      Here they are, incomprehensible, uncultured ... They have nothing to say in an honest dialogue, so they immediately go on to insults. They themselves believed that their historians wrote, and then they brainwashed in the hope that maybe someone besides them would also believe in these stories ...


      and you are very cultural ... and understandable, getting married with each other, giving birth to sick children .... you have the most patients with telassemia and leukemia ...

      Quote: aboszoda
      except them, too, will believe in these stories ...


      But do we believe that Talyshstan existed ????
  17. aboszoda
    -5
    9 July 2012 20: 23
    I have no time, much less a desire to spend my time on people like you all, who are sitting in front of the computer from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. and thereby fulfilling their direct official obligations. at the expense of your words:
    fly to Baku I will personally teach you the history of the Talysh and the Azerbaijani people

    I will say one thing: remember, son: the next time I come to Baku, and it will be very soon, then you and your kind will not be there! If even someone does not have time to flee by universal flight and remains, then all of them will hide under the skirts of their wives and mothers! Be sure of that!
    As for my interview with APA, firstly, immediately after the publication of this material in the open press, I, despite all the persuasions of some high-ranking officials, I made a refutation on our website. Secondly, yes, I am Azerbaijani and Azerbaijan is my country, and the word "Azerbaijan" is a Talysh word. Yes, I am (for now) a citizen of Azerbaijan. But, it won't be for long!
    1. erkenegon
      -1
      9 July 2012 20: 52
      oh scared wah scared and what's next hyyaar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. 416sd
        +3
        9 July 2012 22: 35
        You will come to Baku very soon ... Soooooooo soon feel

        When you go off the plane ladder, there will be strong muscular hairy uncles in black masks next to you, you will be bewildered howl at the camera, and when a black escort takes you from the airport to the MNS isolator, the only thing you will dream about is that you don’t have to painfully wink

        And don't you dare say the words "Azerbaijan" ... Your fallen mouth is not worthy of this.
        1. Hi
          Hi
          -3
          9 July 2012 22: 49
          Fun, however, in "Azerbaijan"
          As with that five-year-old girl who was taken to kichu for uttering the word "Freedom")))
          1. erkenegon
            -1
            9 July 2012 23: 08
            Now I grabbed the Swiss flag, there are men in the army, you have a sense of your own national dignity when you speak at this peasant forum as men, well, I understand you and sympathize, as they say in such cases, medicine is powerless, you should advise a psychiatrist, you yourself then you think that you write, even the enemies sometimes deserve respect But this doesn’t apply to you and to people like you, finally get smitten, as I sneezed at you from the big bell tower and I continue to sneeze at you and at your funny comments, DO YOU HURT?
            1. Hi
              Hi
              -3
              9 July 2012 23: 17
              Why did you eat pasta in Italy, "brave asker"?
              go, sharpen your ax, just the night has come, you will chop someone, you will become a hero
              1. Ataturk
                +1
                9 July 2012 23: 20
                Quote: Hai
                Why did you eat pasta in Italy, "brave asker"?

                The trouble you and the ignoramus. This is the Hungarian flag. I understand that you have no land claims there, so you don’t know. Along the way, yours there haven’t yet blown up the subway as in Moscow ... Yours there haven’t yet blown up anything like cowards. You’re doing all the fuss.
                1. Hi
                  Hi
                  -4
                  9 July 2012 23: 22
                  Thank you for correcting, Asker-oglu
                  1. Ataturk
                    0
                    9 July 2012 23: 23
                    Quote: Hai
                    Thank you for correcting, Asker-oglu

                    You are always welcome descendant of ANAIS
              2. erkenegon
                +1
                10 July 2012 00: 09
                don’t be offended by the sick, give this sinner at least a little mind
          2. erkenegon
            +1
            10 July 2012 03: 15
            in no country in the world did the parliament speaker and his deputies point blank at point blank range, but this is normal for you
          3. kNow
            0
            10 July 2012 19: 49
            Quote: Hai
            As with that five-year-old girl who was taken to kichu for saying the word "Freedom"

            and this is said by the "man" whose parliament was shot live?
        2. Ataturk
          0
          9 July 2012 23: 03
          Quote: 416sd

          You will come to Baku very soon ... Soooooooo soon

          When you go off the plane ladder, there will be strong muscular hairy uncles in black masks next to you, you will be bewildered howl at the camera, and when a black escort takes you from the airport to the MNS isolator, the only thing you will dream about is that you don’t have to painfully

          And don't you dare say the words "Azerbaijan" ... Your fallen mouth is not worthy of this.


          Bravoooo))))))))))))))))))))))))) bravo))))))))))))))))))
        3. erkenegon
          0
          9 July 2012 23: 17
          my friend !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not fallen and defiled
          1. Ataturk
            0
            9 July 2012 23: 23
            Quote: erkenegon
            my friend !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not fallen and defiled


            I will not argue my friend.
    2. Ataturk
      -1
      9 July 2012 22: 21
      Quote: aboszoda

      I have no time, much less a desire to spend my time on people like you

      God forbid that we be traitors like YOU!

      Quote: aboszoda
      who from 9 am to 6 pm sit in front of a computer

      And this is none of your business. Who and where and why. You answer for yourself !!! We are sitting in the office, we have the Internet, we are not screaming in the stands, we are working in a civilized manner. So you think about yourself.

      Quote: aboszoda
      and thereby fulfill your direct official duties

      Does it mean dirt to teach the right life of the enemies of the people of Azerbaijan? It is an honor for me to cleanse my country from infections like you.

      Quote: aboszoda
      the next time I come to Baku, and it will be very soon, then you and your kind will not be there!

      There was one such comrade like you, he also tried to create Talyshstan, remember? We do not have a long conversation with such people. So go ahead, you fly in and see who will live there and who will not.

      Why don’t you fly now?

      Quote: aboszoda
      If even someone does not have time to flee by universal flight and remains, then all of them will hide under the skirts of their wives and mothers! Be sure of that!


      hahahahaha, do you hide under the KREMLIN SKIRT and ply your other brand? You fly in, and then we'll see who will be under whose skirt.

      Quote: aboszoda
      Secondly, yes, I am Azerbaijani

      You are a traitor and not an Azerbaijani, and traitors do not have a nationality.


      Quote: aboszoda
      Yes, I (for now) am a citizen of Azerbaijan. But, this is not for long!

      Hahahahah)))))))))))) let's fly see !! REMEMBER MY NAME ... OMAR !!! GOOD REMEMBER !!!
      1. Hi
        Hi
        -2
        9 July 2012 22: 44
        Lobster.
        But your friend Albay-oglu is sure that I am writing this, not Talysh)))
        You already have a manic psychosis in "Azerbaijan"

        "If you have a persecution mania, this does not mean that no one is following you" HEYDAR-OGLI MIRZA (c)
      2. ARMYAN
        -1
        11 July 2012 02: 14
        TALISHES AND LEZGINI WANT THAT THEIR CHILDREN DO NOT DRAIN WITH AZERTOK.
        THEY COULD LEARN AT SCHOOLS IN THE NATIVE LANGUAGE.
        HAVE A TV TRANSFER AND A NEWSPAPER. YOU THREATEN.
        .............................
        ARRESTED NAT. ACTIVISTS ALLOWED THEY WORK FOR THE IRANIANS.
        HALF OF LEZGINI HUNDREDS IN PRISON WITHOUT CHARGE.
        1. kNow
          +1
          11 July 2012 08: 02
          Quote: ARMYAN
          TALISHES AND LEZGINI WANT THAT THEIR CHILDREN DO NOT DRAIN WITH AZERTOK.
          THEY COULD LEARN AT SCHOOLS IN THE NATIVE LANGUAGE.
          HAVE A TV TRANSFER AND A NEWSPAPER. AND YOU THREATEN ..............................
          ARRESTED NAT. ACTIVISTS ALLOWED THEY WORK FOR THE IRANIANS.
          HALF OF LEZGINI HUNDREDS IN PRISON WITHOUT CHARGE.

          sitting Armenian and stupidly pits the peoples of Azerbaijan. It’s better to tell how many peoples in Armenia live except Armenians ... not at all, there’s nothing to tell
          1. ARMYAN
            +1
            11 July 2012 17: 44
            [ kNow,
            visible TI also work for the ministry nat. safety
            apart from insulting and lying there is nothing to answer, only TUppPPPOOOOOO
            MINUSES TO SET, AND THIS IS YOUR WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3. ARMYAN
      -2
      9 July 2012 22: 42
      Fahraddin Aboszoda
      WALKED BY US THE WAY WAS DIFFICULT, BUT WE HAVE PASSED AND NOW ON OUR EARTH THE TURK NOMBER'S LEG WILL NOT COME IN (Azeri)

      EVERY NATION SHOULD stand for its own rights and requirements
      YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT WAY
      TURKISH NOMBIES (Azeri) DO NOT PLACE IN THE CAUCASUS
      NATIONAL SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS THIS IS ABOVE ALL
      1. erkenegon
        -1
        9 July 2012 23: 13
        to save time I appeal to both of you, learn the Russian Language and do not distort it when you write comments I feel sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! better to be a shepherd than a sheep !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Hi
          Hi
          -2
          9 July 2012 23: 20
          in your case - a ram!
          1. erkenegon
            +1
            10 July 2012 00: 04
            where have you learned how to bleat, and it’s still not clear how to understand the bond with Islamic fundamentalists, whether in Lebanon or Afghanistan ..................!
    4. Kamilla
      -2
      9 July 2012 23: 17
      Quote: aboszoda

      I will say one thing: remember, son: the next time I come to Baku, and it will be very soon, then you and your kind will not be there! If even someone does not have time to flee by universal flight and remains, then they will all hide under the skirts of their wives and


      who are you to say who will be there. and who is not a povocator !!!


      Quote: aboszoda
      Secondly, yes, I am Azerbaijani and Azerbaijan is my country, and the word "Azerbaijan" is a Talysh word.


      if you were an Azerbaijani, you wouldn’t write nonsense here, and you wouldn’t disgrace your nation and country, you’re an ordinary traitor ..... provocateur! the prison is crying for you .... there you will find yourself!

      Quote: aboszoda
      Yes, I (for now) am a citizen of Azerbaijan. But, this is not for long!


      you contradict yourself, then you are Azerbaijani, then you are a citizen, and this is not for long ..... tell me honestly Talysh ... are you up to 12, or after 12 wrote? then we will all understand ...
    5. erkenegon
      0
      9 July 2012 23: 19
      Yes, you are not a citizen confused that I will fix the CITIZEN!
    6. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      0
      10 July 2012 10: 37
      Quote: aboszoda
      aboszoda

      Listen Abassali, somebody asked you to go to the site! When you arrive, then we will meet you! Really tallish ki tallish, after 12 head does not cook, you first think about something to write, because everyone reads !!!!
    7. kNow
      +3
      10 July 2012 19: 55
      I can confirm that you are actually Aboszode. To do this, you need to answer one question. Do you agree? if you do not agree - then you yourself understand ....
      Google will not find the answer to this question :)
  18. 416sd
    +3
    9 July 2012 22: 31
    Kaaaaaaaakoy horror belay

    It’s bad to see everything in unfriendly special services since Aboss ... How is it there ... Abboszoda personally goes to forums laughing

    Request to Azerbaijani users - wash your hands after communicating with this type ... Even virtual communication. And generally leave the discussion. If this is the very creature with a famous last name - then you create an advertisement for him. If this is not him - all the more you should not communicate with him.

    Do not worry guys, this type of blade has an aspen stake sticking out, only he does not know about it yet ... lol HEYDAR MIRZA (s)

    You can save the printscreen, the day will come very soon - remember my words ...

    End of communication.
    1. Hi
      Hi
      -3
      9 July 2012 22: 41
      Heydar-oglu Mirza - you are more dangerous than ever))))
      1. Ataturk
        0
        9 July 2012 23: 05
        Quote: Hai
        Heydar-oglu Mirza - you are more dangerous than ever))))

        And by the hero of Mubariz, did you not understand this?
        1. Hi
          Hi
          -3
          9 July 2012 23: 15
          dead mubariz?
          By the way, are you aware that he was flunked by his ordinary, average conscript?
          1. Ataturk
            0
            9 July 2012 23: 21
            Quote: Hai
            By the way, are you aware that he was flunked by his ordinary, average conscript?

            It's not that his conscript shot him, but that he sent half a hundred hai to the next world to the salesmen. This is what matters.
            1. Hi
              Hi
              -3
              9 July 2012 23: 24
              Yeah. Only according to Alibek-oglu, not half a hundred, but the whole hundred))))
              Would you have decided
              You’ll send the photos, as on 04-06 / 06/2012, Artsakh’s armored vehicles were knocked out by helicopters)))
              1. Ataturk
                0
                9 July 2012 23: 27
                Quote: Hai
                You’ll send pictures of how Artsakh’s armored vehicles were hit by helicopters on 04-06 / 06/2012


                You don’t rush so, we will have time all.



                Do not worry, we will not forget anyone)))))))
                1. Hi
                  Hi
                  -3
                  10 July 2012 00: 46
                  there is no need to "worry" with you
            2. ARMYAN
              -1
              11 July 2012 18: 19
              Quote: Ataturk
              and the fact that he sent half a hundred hai to the next world to the sellers.


              You exchange yourself and your people, such unreasonable comments. if you believe that Mubariz Ibrahimov could have killed half a hundred .... this is nonsense.
              probably seen enough REMBO
              Ramil Safarov cut off sleeping GURGEN MARGARYAN by tapar
              sneaking up at night when HURGEN slept. safarov’s spirit was not enough face to face like a man, and Uetu Chris is called the hero of Azerbaijan.
              and you're talking about half a hundred rave
          2. kNow
            +2
            10 July 2012 19: 50
            Quote: Hai
            you, by the way, are aware that you failed him regular average draftee?

            ninth? which he did not have time after the eighth
      2. erkenegon
        -2
        9 July 2012 23: 15
        hayastani misunderstanding
  19. btsypulin
    +3
    9 July 2012 23: 53
    AtaturkWhat was it dear? Is your opposition on a Russian military site? :)
    1. erkenegon
      -1
      9 July 2012 23: 59
      then one schizo announced on him a psychiatric hospital crying, imagines himself a sort of field marshal, vilifies everyone
    2. Hi
      Hi
      -1
      10 July 2012 00: 05
      If you haven’t noticed yet, then there are many times more nomadic sheep-growers on the Russian military site than normal people.
      1. erkenegon
        -1
        10 July 2012 03: 05
        Let the Russian brothers know that among the Türks there are Orthodox Christians, for example, the Gagauz in the south of Moldova, I’m not talking about Yakutia-Sakha and that is shamanism! We would equally respect and reverently respect all religions positively, and all holy books Be it the Bible, the Talmud or the Koran are sacred to us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is unequivocal, and who is trying to drive a wedge between peoples in IGNOR !!!!!!!!!
        1. Hi
          Hi
          -2
          10 July 2012 09: 10
          In 1998, Armenia turned to UNESCO with a request to monitor the status of a unique medieval cemetery in the city of Julfa of the Nakhichevan Autonomy. How the authoritative (if desired) international organization reacted to this request, it became known in 2002, when new certificates of destruction of the cemetery arrived, and in 2005, when the cemetery was finally demolished. And a few years later, video footage appeared, on which Azerbaijani servicemen were shot, destroying the cemetery with the help of heavy equipment. So the unique collection of monuments of Armenian small architecture - khachkars - ceased to exist.

          The French Jesuit monk, the founder of the Paris Society of Foreign Missions, Alexander de Roth, who visited Julfa (Armenian - Jugha) in 1648, wrote that 10 thousand cross-stones were installed in the cemetery. By the end of the twentieth century, at least three thousand khachkars remained in the cemetery, among which there were no two identical. The cemetery was very ancient, and the cross-stones built there date back to the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries. It was, without any exaggeration, an anthology of Armenian architectural art, which, incidentally, was included in the List of the Cultural Heritage of Humanity compiled by UNESCO.

          In August 2007, a delegation of PACE inspectors was supposed to visit Nakhichevan and other areas of Azerbaijan, as well as Artsakh and the Republic of Armenia, but at the last moment Azerbaijan put forward impossible conditions for the delegation and frustrated the trip. Thus, Azerbaijan was able to avoid, if not punishment, at least conviction for perfect vandalism at the state level.

          And although in 2010 the American Association for the Promotion of Science confirmed using satellite imagery that the cemetery was destroyed, this exposure had no consequences for Azerbaijan. It should also be noted that in the XNUMXst century, Azerbaijan destroyed a huge number of medieval Armenian churches in Nakhichevan, Khanlar, Shahumyan, Dashkesan, Shamkhor, Getabak and other areas now within the republic.

          The other day, in the city of Timbuktu, located in the north of the West African state of Mali, radical Islamists destroyed several mausoleums of Islamic saints of the XNUMXth century. The complex of unique mausoleums is also included in the UNESCO List of Cultural Heritage of Humanity. The destruction was preceded by protests of the world community, the same UNESCO, European organizations. However, this territory is not controlled by the central government of Mali, and it was impossible to prevent acts of vandalism, as well as to persuade the Islamists.

          A similar situation took place in Afghanistan, in the province of Bamyan, where in the early spring of 2001 two unique Buddha statues 55 and 37 meters high were destroyed. Note that these statues were built over two centuries. The construction was completed in the XNUMXst century BC. The order to destroy the monuments was given by the ideological leader and leader of the Taliban Islamic movement Mullah Mohammed Omar. Unique, unparalleled statues, were destroyed as "pagan idols, religious buildings that are not related to Islam." Needless to say, these statues, as well as the cave complex carved into the rocks adjacent to them, were included in the UNESCO World Heritage List. But the vandals who had seized power did not stop the condemnation of the international community, nor, moreover, the historical and cultural significance of the destroyed monuments.

          Three cases of vandalism in the twenty-first century, directed against three world religions: Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. It is not by chance that we cited these examples. In addition to being acts of vandalism that truly amaze the imagination of a normal person, they are also evidence that vandalism does not accept religion. Vandal is an ignorant militant atheist with the psychology of a slave. It is no coincidence that Mali is the only country in the world where the state university was closed. The reason is simple: in the country there were not enough young people willing to study. General illiteracy also exists in Afghanistan, which has been in a state of war for many years.

          In both Mali and Afghanistan, the main “educational centers” are the lectures and sermons of the self-proclaimed mullahs and “theorists” of Islam. In fact: the ongoing destruction by the Islamists from the Ansar ad-Din group of the complex of mausoleums of Islamic saints in the city of Timbuktu in northern Mali is a consequence of the literal perception of the Koran, which advocates the fight against paganism and religious buildings. A similar "explanation" was given by the vandals who ordered the destruction of Buddha statues in Bamiyan.

          This behavior of radical Islamists, unfortunately, is not new. In 642, Arab troops captured ancient Alexandria with its world-famous library of wealth. Caliph Omar ibn Khattab ordered to burn hundreds of thousands of centuries of stored volumes. According to legend, the caliph answered the timid protests of a competent man: “If these books say what is written in the Qur'an, then they are meaningless, because the Qur'an says everything! If they say what is not in the Qur'an, it means that they contradict the Qur'an, and all the more they need to be burned. ” And the library, which kept most of the written history of mankind, was burned.

          However, if in the case of Mali and Afghan Bamiyan vandalism tried to hide behind the “true” religion, then in the case of the destruction of the cemetery in Dzhug, religion had nothing to do with it: Azerbaijan, positioning itself as a “secular, Muslim state”, purposefully destroys the traces of its stay in Nakhichevan and other regions of the republic of its original inhabitants, and not only, by the way, of the Armenian people. In the same Nakhijevan, for example, Azerbaijani "scientists" carry ... tombstones from Talysh regions of the republic, after which they are declared monuments of Azerbaijani (read - Transcaucasian Turks) architecture. This process has been going on for more than a year, and today hundreds of such monuments are already in Nakhichevan. At the same time, Talysh, deprived of historical artifacts, is proclaimed “originally Azerbaijani” land.

          Vandalism of Azerbaijan, in contrast to the illiterate actions of Islamists in Mali and Afghanistan, is not a manifestation of ignorant radical Islamism, but reflects the program developed by the Azerbaijan Academy of Sciences for Turkization of the entire territory of the republic. In order to implement this program, history is rewritten in the republic, toponyms and hydronyms are renamed, historical monuments are destroyed, falsification of their belonging to the history of Turkic tribes of history is impossible. Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev is a worthy follower of Caliph Omar Ibn Khattab and acts on the principle: “If these historical monuments cannot be attributed to the Transcaucasian Turks, then they are harmful, and they must be destroyed.”
          Not everything is destroyed, as a result of which criminal decisions are born in Azerbaijan, such as renaming the ancient Udine-Lezgi settlement Wartashen to Oguz or renaming a bowl built in the XNUMXth century in the center of Baku in Lezgi to Ashurbeyli Mosque. Recall that the first nomadic Turkic Oguz tribes appeared in this region only at the end of the XNUMXth - beginning of the XNUMXth centuries, more than a thousand years after the foundation of Vartashen, and in Baku itself not earlier than the XNUMXth century.

          What has been happening in Azerbaijan for decades can be called "enlightened" vandalism. This category of vandalism includes the destruction of Armenian churches and khachkars with the simultaneous Turkization of Lezgi mosques and the theft of Talish tombstones. The same category of “enlightened” vandalism includes the Turkization of historical place names in the territory of Azerbaijan, or the mass seizure of Armenian, Lezgi, Talysh carpets, followed by the publication of a richly illustrated folio called “Azerbaijan Carpets”, in which all carpets requisitioned from autochthonous peoples are presented as “Azerbaijani ".

          The Islamic group Ansar ad-Din, which destroys Islamic cultural monuments in Mali, blown up the Buddha statues in Afghanistan, the Taliban Islamic movement and destroys the traces of the “secular” rule of Heydar and Ilham Aliyev in Azerbaijan are different facets of the same phenomenon . The vandalism perpetrated by illiterate and ignorant Islamists, in its destructive consequences, is no different from the vandalism of a criminal with a diploma from MGIMO. However, the crime of the "enlightened" vandal deserves a much more severe punishment, because the motivation for it is a conscious desire to deprive undesirable peoples of historical memory and close the road to the future.
          1. Ataturk
            0
            10 July 2012 10: 04
            Quote: Hai
            In 1998, Armenia asked UNESCO to monitor the status of a unique medieval cemetery.


            If I find where this place is, I myself will destroy it. But before that I’ll send the cattle there so that as much as possible they will spoil there.
        2. Hi
          Hi
          -2
          10 July 2012 19: 18
          As for the holy books and not only
          In 1998, Armenia turned to UNESCO with a request to monitor the status of a unique medieval cemetery in the city of Julfa of the Nakhichevan Autonomy. How the authoritative (if desired) international organization reacted to this request, it became known in 2002, when new certificates of destruction of the cemetery arrived, and in 2005, when the cemetery was finally demolished. And a few years later, video footage appeared, on which Azerbaijani servicemen were shot, destroying the cemetery with the help of heavy equipment. So the unique collection of monuments of Armenian small architecture - khachkars - ceased to exist.

          The French Jesuit monk, the founder of the Paris Society of Foreign Missions, Alexander de Roth, who visited Julfa (Armenian - Jugha) in 1648, wrote that 10 thousand cross-stones were installed in the cemetery. By the end of the twentieth century, at least three thousand khachkars remained in the cemetery, among which there were no two identical. The cemetery was very ancient, and the cross-stones built there date back to the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries. It was, without any exaggeration, an anthology of Armenian architectural art, which, incidentally, was included in the List of the Cultural Heritage of Humanity compiled by UNESCO.

          In August 2007, a delegation of PACE inspectors was supposed to visit Nakhichevan and other areas of Azerbaijan, as well as Artsakh and the Republic of Armenia, but at the last moment Azerbaijan put forward impossible conditions for the delegation and frustrated the trip. Thus, Azerbaijan was able to avoid, if not punishment, at least conviction for perfect vandalism at the state level.

          And although in 2010 the American Association for the Promotion of Science confirmed using satellite imagery that the cemetery was destroyed, this exposure had no consequences for Azerbaijan. It should also be noted that in the XNUMXst century, Azerbaijan destroyed a huge number of medieval Armenian churches in Nakhichevan, Khanlar, Shahumyan, Dashkesan, Shamkhor, Getabak and other areas now within the republic.

          The other day, in the city of Timbuktu, located in the north of the West African state of Mali, radical Islamists destroyed several mausoleums of Islamic saints of the XNUMXth century. The complex of unique mausoleums is also included in the UNESCO List of Cultural Heritage of Humanity. The destruction was preceded by protests of the world community, the same UNESCO, European organizations. However, this territory is not controlled by the central government of Mali, and it was impossible to prevent acts of vandalism, as well as to persuade the Islamists.

          A similar situation took place in Afghanistan, in the province of Bamyan, where in the early spring of 2001 two unique Buddha statues 55 and 37 meters high were destroyed. Note that these statues were built over two centuries. The construction was completed in the XNUMXst century BC. The order to destroy the monuments was given by the ideological leader and leader of the Taliban Islamic movement Mullah Mohammed Omar. Unique, unparalleled statues, were destroyed as "pagan idols, religious buildings that are not related to Islam." Needless to say, these statues, as well as the cave complex carved into the rocks adjacent to them, were included in the UNESCO World Heritage List. But the vandals who had seized power did not stop the condemnation of the international community, nor, moreover, the historical and cultural significance of the destroyed monuments.

          Three cases of vandalism in the twenty-first century, directed against three world religions: Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. It is not by chance that we cited these examples. In addition to being acts of vandalism that truly amaze the imagination of a normal person, they are also evidence that vandalism does not accept religion. Vandal is an ignorant militant atheist with the psychology of a slave. It is no coincidence that Mali is the only country in the world where the state university was closed. The reason is simple: in the country there were not enough young people willing to study. General illiteracy also exists in Afghanistan, which has been in a state of war for many years.

          In both Mali and Afghanistan, the main “educational centers” are the lectures and sermons of the self-proclaimed mullahs and “theorists” of Islam. In fact: the ongoing destruction by the Islamists from the Ansar ad-Din group of the complex of mausoleums of Islamic saints in the city of Timbuktu in northern Mali is a consequence of the literal perception of the Koran, which advocates the fight against paganism and religious buildings. A similar "explanation" was given by the vandals who ordered the destruction of Buddha statues in Bamiyan.

          This behavior of radical Islamists, unfortunately, is not new. In 642, Arab troops captured ancient Alexandria with its world-famous library of wealth. Caliph Omar ibn Khattab ordered to burn hundreds of thousands of centuries of stored volumes. According to legend, the caliph answered the timid protests of a competent man: “If these books say what is written in the Qur'an, then they are meaningless, because the Qur'an says everything! If they say what is not in the Qur'an, it means that they contradict the Qur'an, and all the more they need to be burned. ” And the library, which kept most of the written history of mankind, was burned.

          However, if in the case of Mali and Afghan Bamiyan vandalism tried to hide behind the “true” religion, then in the case of the destruction of the cemetery in Dzhug, religion had nothing to do with it: Azerbaijan, positioning itself as a “secular, Muslim state”, purposefully destroys the traces of its stay in Nakhichevan and other regions of the republic of its original inhabitants, and not only, by the way, of the Armenian people. In the same Nakhijevan, for example, Azerbaijani "scientists" carry ... tombstones from Talysh regions of the republic, after which they are declared monuments of Azerbaijani (read - Transcaucasian Turks) architecture. This process has been going on for more than a year, and today hundreds of such monuments are already in Nakhichevan. At the same time, Talysh, deprived of historical artifacts, is proclaimed “originally Azerbaijani” land.

          Vandalism of Azerbaijan, in contrast to the illiterate actions of Islamists in Mali and Afghanistan, is not a manifestation of ignorant radical Islamism, but reflects the program developed by the Azerbaijan Academy of Sciences for Turkization of the entire territory of the republic. In order to implement this program, history is rewritten in the republic, toponyms and hydronyms are renamed, historical monuments are destroyed, falsification of their belonging to the history of Turkic tribes of history is impossible. Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev is a worthy follower of Caliph Omar Ibn Khattab and acts on the principle: “If these historical monuments cannot be attributed to the Transcaucasian Turks, then they are harmful, and they must be destroyed.”
          Not everything is destroyed, as a result of which criminal decisions are born in Azerbaijan, such as renaming the ancient Udine-Lezgi settlement Wartashen to Oguz or renaming a bowl built in the XNUMXth century in the center of Baku in Lezgi to Ashurbeyli Mosque. Recall that the first nomadic Turkic Oguz tribes appeared in this region only at the end of the XNUMXth - beginning of the XNUMXth centuries, more than a thousand years after the foundation of Vartashen, and in Baku itself not earlier than the XNUMXth century.

          What has been happening in Azerbaijan for decades can be called "enlightened" vandalism. This category of vandalism includes the destruction of Armenian churches and khachkars with the simultaneous Turkization of Lezgi mosques and the theft of Talish tombstones. The same category of “enlightened” vandalism includes the Turkization of historical place names in the territory of Azerbaijan, or the mass seizure of Armenian, Lezgi, Talysh carpets, followed by the publication of a richly illustrated folio called “Azerbaijan Carpets”, in which all carpets requisitioned from autochthonous peoples are presented as “Azerbaijani ".

          The Islamic group Ansar ad-Din, which destroys Islamic cultural monuments in Mali, blown up the Buddha statues in Afghanistan, the Taliban Islamic movement and destroys the traces of the “secular” rule of Heydar and Ilham Aliyev in Azerbaijan are different facets of the same phenomenon . The vandalism perpetrated by illiterate and ignorant Islamists, in its destructive consequences, is no different from the vandalism of a criminal with a diploma from MGIMO. However, the crime of the "enlightened" vandal deserves a much more severe punishment, because the motivation for it is a conscious desire to deprive undesirable peoples of historical memory and close the road to the future.
          1. erkenegon
            -2
            10 July 2012 21: 53
            I will answer Zheglov’s words so you haven’t settled down yet ................................ !!!!!!!!!! !!!!
            To ignore!
    3. kNow
      +3
      10 July 2012 19: 52
      btsypulin,
      dear, this is a political pawn - to see such people live is a curiosity
  20. erkenegon
    -1
    10 July 2012 02: 47
    to give you soap, but somehow without soap it will be hard, ahmedinadat who you have to matchmate brother and maybe sister !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
    you haiks are alien people, they came from India, because they stopped to endure you there, you wander like gypsies here and there, let a tear go here and there all the time, oh, how miserable we are oppressing us, they offend us, so they usually ask for alms, we can throw ourselves at the worst we’ll become poorer, by the way, in Turkey, if I’m not mistaken 300.000 I didn’t make a reservation and there are 25.000 people living in Azerbaijan, but there’s no place on earth for fascists like you. Terrorists of all stripes were taken to Karabakh, this was asala, together with Palestinian militants, they blew up buses in Israel , launched rockets from the territory of Lebanon at civilians in Ashkelon and Haifa, killed diplomats around the world, committed terrorist attacks at the Orly airport in Paris ,,,,,,,,,,, continue ?! After all, it was you who rocked the boat called the USSR, collapse it started in 1988, you shattered the state from the inside, how strange it doesn’t seem BUT, in per capita terms, most of all thieves in law, strangely enough, you have just one crime comes from you "sir" all the time we repeat about the drug traffic from Afghanistan, but at the same time we forget about the uncontrolled Nagorno-Karabakh, how much raw opium you bought, According to Interpol, all drug traffic goes along 2 routes, 1st Afghanistan, 2nd through Iran. Let's stay on Iran -Azerbaijan joining the fight with drug trafficking, he cut off oxygen at the border, but it is delivered through Nagorno-Karabakh, then Armenia IIIIIIIIIIIIIII .............................. you know where and proceeds from drug trafficking into the pockets of drug lords !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  21. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
    0
    10 July 2012 10: 48
    Guys, please do not turn polemics into srach! I propose to ignore the attacks of the pro-Armenian participants of the site-The dog barks the caravan is coming! Let yourself bark! There are so many smart and intelligent guys on the site and we are likened to these dogs!