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The command of the US Armed Forces spoke about training the Marines with a saw-"grinder"

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Military Review continues to acquaint readers with various types of training and the characteristics of exercises in the armies of NATO countries. In this story - the joint training of the American marines and the raid forces from the 11-th Marine Expeditionary Brigade.




During the training, several groups of servicemen were given the task of overcoming various kinds of engineering obstacles and dismantling metal structures. The main tool for conducting such tests was the "grinder". Military personnel had to demonstrate the ability to cut metal sheets in a limited time.

Noteworthy is the equipment of one of the servicemen of the 11-th Naval Expeditionary Brigade of the United States Navy. In particular, you can see the multifunctional unloading vest. The helmet of the American military is equipped with electron-optical (EOB) binoculars, which allows you to actively operate in the dark. EOB is powered by a compact battery.

The command of the US Armed Forces spoke about training the Marines with a saw-"grinder"


The command explained why the special forces were forced to work with the “Bulgarian”. It is noted that conducting operations is not only using weapons and tactics of various kinds. Often you have to face difficulties that are not directly related to the battle. For example, the rescue of military personnel (including the wounded) from damaged army vehicles or units of armored vehicles.
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  1. Civil
    Civil 13 August 2019 08: 23
    +3
    Yes, what a grinder, at least chainsaws for firewood and strengthening positions.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 13 August 2019 09: 58
      -3
      Quote: Civil
      Yes, what a Bulgarian, at least chainsaws

      Enough grenades lol
  2. Pedrodepackes
    Pedrodepackes 13 August 2019 08: 24
    +3
    Interestingly, but this one, "how will it be in Russian -" Polgarka "is included in the standard set of" Humvee "or" Abrams "? , displacing the BC of a tank or armored vehicle.
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 13 August 2019 08: 37
      +1
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      because in battle, anything can happen,

      Just in case, they attached a "fennec" to the helmet, self-destruction of an individual in a dead-end (for a soldier's brain) situation. Surely remote control of the charge is also provided. wassat
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 13 August 2019 12: 18
        +1
        A strange fighter holster under the left-hander, and the instrument as a right-handed person holds
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 25
    +4
    Well, in the hands of a fighter, a motor-grinder ... a powerful thing ... the trunk of a tank is cut only this way ... an electric grinder does not work for a long time, and even in the field where to recharge it.
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 13 August 2019 08: 48
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Well, in the hands of a fighter a motor-grinder ... a powerful thing ...

      With camouflaged inscription "Shtil TS 500i"
      1. Avior
        Avior 13 August 2019 09: 06
        +3
        It is not camouflaged, just worn, look at the pen - obviously they used the tool many times
        1. Max otto
          Max otto 13 August 2019 09: 30
          +2
          It is camouflaged, scuffs where it is clear that it is Calm
          1. Avior
            Avior 13 August 2019 09: 33
            0
            The abrasions are far from being there, look at the pen that he holds with his left hand, the winder, some kind of cover next to it, the disc protection - everywhere there are severe abrasions and scratches, it is far from new and has been in work more than once.
            1. Max otto
              Max otto 13 August 2019 09: 35
              +1
              Naturally, no one denies this. But initially painted over in the authorized color.
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 00
          -3
          Quote: Avior
          obviously used the tool many times

          The local farmer was borrowed lol
      2. reservist
        reservist 13 August 2019 10: 20
        0
        Shtil TS 500i
        Displacement cm³ 72,2
        HP power 5,3
        Weight kg 10,2
        Rotational speed rpm 9.300
        Tank capacity l 0,72
    2. Govorun
      Govorun 13 August 2019 08: 53
      +2
      learn the extension cord and the issue is resolved)
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 13 August 2019 08: 59
        +2
        Quote: Govorun
        learn the extension cord and the issue is resolved)

        The more weight they have, the easier it is for us)))
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 13 August 2019 09: 59
      -3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      . electric grinder does not work for a long time

      Depends on the battery. With a tank will work much longer laughing
  4. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 13 August 2019 08: 38
    +1
    How not to recall an English rhyme, though in Russian translation: "Going on a long journey, do not cut tickets somehow, cut cut, brothers be careful ..." Well, and so on.
  5. cniza
    cniza 13 August 2019 08: 45
    +2
    The command of the US Armed Forces spoke about training the Marines with a saw-"grinder"


    I read it several times ... but what are they not taught to use with other means, including any helpers?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 51
      +2
      and what other means, including any helpers, they are not taught to use

      TNT or something ...
      it’s only easiest to open the metal door in a house with residents by a powerful grinder ... you cut the hinges in a couple of minutes.
      1. cniza
        cniza 13 August 2019 08: 52
        +2
        And if there is no grinder and TNT, what will they do ... and there’s scrap nearby?
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 53
          +3
          With a crowbar you won’t swindle for a long time ... quickly exhausted no matter how strong a person is.
          1. cniza
            cniza 13 August 2019 08: 55
            +1
            But what if the task is set - to open the door?
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 58
              +2
              If the task is to destroy the enemy, then simply with TNT you will demolish the place where he lurks.
              If the task is to get into the room you look at which walls, doors, windows and the place of approach and, accordingly, choose a tool.
              You’ll not be the sapper shovel to knock the door.
        2. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 13 August 2019 09: 39
          0
          What about the mighty shoulder of the marine?
      2. Kelwin
        Kelwin 13 August 2019 09: 55
        +1
        You won’t open the normal door, you need to cut it around the perimeter, it’s enough for cheap tins to walk through the hinges. And in very normal doors there are also armored plates, not every disk will take)
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 13 August 2019 09: 58
          +1
          I watched the special forces storm the doors of the drug lords ... about the same way they close metal doors tightly ... it’s a difficult task to open such a defense.
          1. Kelwin
            Kelwin 13 August 2019 10: 09
            +1
            Well, the assault is okay, there you can use an overhead charge) But when you need to open the apartment, when there is an elderly person in an incomprehensible state, this is an ambush. I watched the Ministry of Emergencies for three (!) Hours bathed, as a result they squeezed it out with the box, they could not open the door itself. I then wondered if it was necessary to install such doors, so if you happen, you can regret it ..
        2. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 13 August 2019 11: 11
          0
          Have you seen many such super normal doors? Do your friends live entirely in armored bunkers?
          1. Kelwin
            Kelwin 13 August 2019 12: 25
            0
            Not a lot, but they come across, I often visit such objects at work, it happened that I lost my keys and broke them in the lock, an autopsy was done. And this story was with a neighbor, he’s a hunter, so it’s justified in his case, all the same a weapon ... and what immediately bunkers, a decent door is it just such an exhaustion or what?) We drink more ...))
      3. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 02
        -3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        it’s only easiest to open the metal door in a house with residents by a powerful grinder ... you cut the hinges in a couple of minutes.

        So they’re not like rescuers, but marines
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 13 August 2019 10: 05
          +2
          So they’re not like rescuers, but marines

          And suddenly you need to open the cabin on the ship quickly ... here the Marine is just right ...
          or a car was blown up in a mine ... it is necessary to open a mangled car quickly without waiting for rescuers ... there are many situations.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 22
            -4
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            What if you need to open the cabin on the ship quickly

            Actually, the ship has a crew trained to act in such situations.
            Marines will not allow anyone to do such work
            or a car was blown up in a mine.

            And what about the Marine with the "grinder"?
            there are many situations.

            And all these situations are in the competence of specially trained people with special equipment.
            A Marine who goes on a mission and who accidentally witnessed an emergency on the road cannot have all the rescuers' tools with him. Even the "grinder"
            Something pulled on rationalization today? smile hi
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 13 August 2019 10: 27
              +1
              Something pulled on rationalization today?

              Yes, she ... I just watch videos with car bombings ... I imagine myself ... a door jammed in an armored car ... a driver pushed a metal structure ... there are no one in the district for a few km ... some partisans in the bushes are in Arabic Allah Akbar screaming ... swear by the unfaithful Bosko to cut off ...
              what to do? ... you can’t get to the rescuers ... the Ministry of Emergencies is generally far far away ... it remains to trust the Lord God and the improvised means of salvation.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 32
                -3
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Yes to improvised means of salvation.

                Well, in the armored car "Bulgarian" is unlikely to be. If only a jack? request
                Yes
                partisans in the bushes that in Arabic Allah-Akbar yell ..

                It is unlikely that they will calmly break the door. Well, something like this
          2. K-50
            K-50 13 August 2019 10: 27
            +2
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            And suddenly you need to open the cabin on the ship quickly ... here the Marine is just right ..

            On the ship, the marines will not be allowed anywhere, except for the permitted premises. He’ll climb somewhere else, break it. The captain will then go out to the feces, with all the boatswain bends he will remember all his relatives. On ships for this service there are special ones, they will fix something, they will break something, but everything is done according to the instructions. lol
  6. Well done
    Well done 13 August 2019 08: 50
    +3
    The best tool is a shovel! Winter. The enemy is a parade ground. This is a workout! He is still dreaming! lol
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 55
      +3

      The best tool is a shovel! Winter.

      The best pick tool ... on rocky ground in the heat of summer ... a few months ... beauty. smile
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 23
        -4
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        The best pick tool ... on rocky ground in the heat of summer ... a few months ... beauty

        Is this not the daily routine in a prison for convicts? belay wink
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 13 August 2019 10: 40
          +1
          Is this not the daily routine in a prison for convicts?

          This is a collection of geologist samples. smile
          It is necessary to beat a running meter of the strongest rock with a pickax ...
          you pound with a pickaxe and it bounces like a rubber ball ...smileand strives to call back on the forehead ... I remember youth.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 44
            -3
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            It is necessary to beat a running meter of the strongest rock with a pickax ...

            I have become ill laughing Lazed on the couch already laughing
            . remember youth

            For romance good
    2. K-50
      K-50 13 August 2019 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: Welldone
      The best tool is a shovel! Winter. The enemy is a parade ground. This is a workout! He is still dreaming! lol

      Especially cleaning the parade ground on New Year's Eve, under the incessant snowfall. yes fellow
      1. Well done
        Well done 13 August 2019 10: 42
        0
        Yes, romance) Especially if you don’t have a shovel, but a 2 meter scraper and the snow is wet and heavy. belay
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 50
        -4
        Quote: K-50
        Especially cleaning the parade ground on New Year's Eve,

        We kind of gathered on the parade ground in autumn, morning, in the rain, collecting leaves. One lift, three fall in its place
  7. demo
    demo 13 August 2019 08: 50
    0
    For training in the Centrospas of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 24
      -3
      Quote: demo
      For training in the Centrospas of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation.

      And not only that will be taught.
      For a fee
  8. Govorun
    Govorun 13 August 2019 08: 52
    +3
    The command of the US Armed Forces spoke about training the Marines with a saw-"grinder"
    Now it remains to master the jigsaw, drill and glue gun and you can go to war ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 13 August 2019 09: 03
      +2
      Everything has long been mastered by ordinary citizens.


    2. Pedrodepackes
      Pedrodepackes 13 August 2019 09: 08
      +1
      Quote: Govorun
      Now it remains to master the jigsaw, drill and glue gun and you can go to war ...

      yeah, "Skillful hands" circle laughing Although, what is surprising, in Russia, any normal man knows how to use a tool, amers have a hamburger to deploy and not to stick to a problem.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 27
        0
        Quote: Pedrodepackes
        yeah, "Skillful hands" circle

        Well what are you. This is an already completed stage.
        We were taught different lol
        1. Pedrodepackes
          Pedrodepackes 13 August 2019 10: 35
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          We were taught different

          cool !! Fear Trump, it's not for you to cut pieces of iron with a grinder am
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 46
            -2
            Quote: Pedrodepackes
            it’s not for you to cut pieces of iron

            ... and in all sorts of "tweeters" self-promote am
            1. Pedrodepackes
              Pedrodepackes 13 August 2019 10: 47
              0
              Quote: Lipchanin
              in all sorts of "tweeters"

              but but, you do not touch the holy! am
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 52
                -3
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                but but, you do not touch the holy!

                And why will he "ifir" litter? negative
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 13 August 2019 10: 26
      -4
      Quote: Govorun
      Now it remains to master the jigsaw, drill and glue gun and you can go to war ...

      And also repair of TVs and other household appliances. lol
      They won't be left without work in "civilian" laughing
  9. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 13 August 2019 09: 05
    +2
    After such training, even if the soldiers had their arms left, otherwise they might get hurt. There is no skill in handling such a powerful tool. Everything is done with a bang.
  10. Avior
    Avior 13 August 2019 09: 09
    0
    And what is it behind him sticking out iron?
    It looks like my barbecue tongs, turn sausages upside down.
  11. kursk87
    kursk87 13 August 2019 09: 14
    +3
    Texas massacre grinder
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 August 2019 09: 25
    +2
    In fact, a normal man had to learn how to use a different tool while still in civilian life. But in the United States, this is probably not welcome, because There are various services for this. Although the army will benefit from this, and after the expiration of the contract will be able to do something with their own hands.
  13. K-50
    K-50 13 August 2019 09: 28
    0
    Is it something too massive for them, or is the NATO soldier so small? what lol
    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 13 August 2019 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: K-50
      Is it something too massive for them, or is the NATO soldier so small? what lol

      This grinder is for special work, which uses a gasoline engine, which is many times more than the usual electric motor. From the court and its enormous dimensions.
      1. K-50
        K-50 13 August 2019 10: 20
        0
        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

        This grinder is for special work, which uses a gasoline engine, which is many times more than the usual electric motor. From the court and its enormous dimensions.

        However, gasoline saws have the same device, but are less heavy. hi fellow
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        2. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
          SERGEY SERGEEVICS 13 August 2019 10: 38
          0
          Quote: K-50
          Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

          This grinder is for special work, which uses a gasoline engine, which is many times more than the usual electric motor. From the court and its enormous dimensions.

          However, gasoline saws have the same device, but are less heavy. hi fellow

          For a grinder, for his work, large volumes of engine revolutions are needed, and for a saw, they are of no use. From here come the dimensions of the engine and the purpose of the work.
    2. Avior
      Avior 13 August 2019 11: 03
      0
      Powerful and with a gas engine
  14. Sonmaster
    Sonmaster 13 August 2019 09: 45
    -1
    Well, in the first photo, judging by the cut and the goggles, the zolder works with a gas cutter ...
  15. Potato
    Potato 13 August 2019 10: 21
    0
    Cool. What about us? The parade ground with a crowbar, or what?
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  17. Mikhail Drabkin
    Mikhail Drabkin 13 August 2019 11: 02
    0
    Military Review continues to acquaint readers with various types of training and the characteristics of exercises in the armies of NATO countries.


    Thanks VO, otherwise we were waiting impatiently for news from the life of the Armed Forces of America ....

    —- And they are also taught how to brush their teeth!
    —- And West Point Cadets — how to chew: 32 times before swallowing ...
    —- In the US Army, first the instructors of the recruit - the trigger is “decomposed into polynomial” into its component parts, and then “assembled” according to the rules of the Army.
    —- The Marine Corps is a tin.
    —- And the "flyers" and the "paddles" - the Air Force and the Navy. That is sissy. Techies.
    -------
    Chainsaw and all that ... So what?
    The Russian Armed Forces are neither cold nor hot from this.
    The Armed Forces of Russia have their own school, teachers, and lessons.
  18. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 13 August 2019 11: 46
    0
    I wouldn’t refuse a grinder, and a Romanian, too, but on the highway only hohlushki ...
  19. Disorder
    Disorder 13 August 2019 11: 57
    -1
    This is a mattress construction battalion. Look, the grinder doesn't even have a gun. laughing
  20. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 13 August 2019 12: 57
    0
    Mdya ... The binoculars really attract attention. After training, his lenses will be decently beaten with red-hot shavings.
  21. regulus
    regulus 14 August 2019 00: 06
    0
    This is never a Bulgarian.