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Iraq and Iran reacted to Israeli Strait of Hormuz initiative

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In Iraq, whose territory was recently hit by Israeli aviation, reacted negatively to statements that Israel could join the so-called security mission in the Strait of Hormuz.




The initiator of this mission is the United States. This was tied up in Washington with the situation regarding tankers detained by Iran. The Americans supported the British. Israel also offers its services to participate in an operation that is directed against Iran.

Meanwhile, Iraqi Foreign Minister Muhammad al-Hakim said that Israeli participation in the operation in the Strait of Hormuz to “ensure safe navigation” will only worsen the situation in the already troubled region. Al-Hakim noted that if Israel sends its forces and assets to the Persian Gulf, this will cause a sharp increase in tension. Iran made an even tougher statement, noting that Israel is doing everything to foment a major war.

Earlier, Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz announced his readiness to support the Americans and British in the Persian Gulf. According to him, the Israeli army can help the allies by gathering intelligence and "related support."

It should be recalled that earlier Israeli aircraft attacked the territory of Iraq. The Israeli media said that attacks were carried out on Hezbollah’s facilities, which "seriously strengthened in Iraq."
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  1. maxim947
    maxim947 12 August 2019 15: 39
    +30
    Israel has had a militant appetite of late, which is incommensurably smaller than its own stomach. We decided to become the main police officer in the region. And this is as a result of the still unipolar world ..
    1. Elysium
      Elysium 12 August 2019 15: 42
      +25
      No matter how he chokes on too big a piece ...
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 12 August 2019 15: 43
        +5
        So am I about the same ...
        1. Elysium
          Elysium 12 August 2019 15: 46
          +6
          There are always those who want to knock him on the back.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 12 August 2019 16: 33
            +3
            Quote: Elysium
            There are always those who want to knock him on the back.

            Stomach resection will be much more effective
        2. maxim947
          maxim947 12 August 2019 16: 01
          +3
          ... appetite has been raging recently, which is disproportionate less own stomach


          Sorry - more
      2. Horn
        Horn 13 August 2019 13: 50
        -1
        As if he choked on too big a piece

        -There is such a cute fish - "black live-throat". She doesn't gag ...
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 12 August 2019 15: 44
      +6
      Israel boasts of its new missile defense systems supposedly capable of shooting down ballistic missiles in space.
      Apparently on this basis, their level of self-importance increased by an order of magnitude. Further, their appetite increases with food, why not now set their conditions now in the Strait of Hormuz.
      1. dolfi1
        dolfi1 12 August 2019 20: 55
        -5
        Israel does not boast, it was a hint to Iran. Didn't you hear how they reacted quickly?
    3. Sergey39
      Sergey39 12 August 2019 15: 45
      +4
      Just trying to take a place in the upcoming multipolar world.
    4. Maz
      Maz 12 August 2019 16: 48
      0
      There is no one to give hands, that’s raging. Russia is not profitable. But the Arabs are still weak, Iran does not have nuclear weapons.
    5. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 12 August 2019 16: 53
      -3
      Israel, in theory, is the main watchman in the Middle East. There is nothing new in this. It’s interesting how Turkey will react to such an Israeli initiative? Israel warned Russia against selling the Su-35S to Turkey. Earlier, Israel did everything to prevent Turkey from receiving the F-35, even the Turks say so.
      “From a commercial point of view, this is beneficial, but Turkey is not the most reliable partner for Russia. As they say, she dances at all weddings at once, ”the ex-Israeli ambassador to Russia Zvi Magen told the VZGLYAD newspaper, commenting on the information on the consideration by the Turkish defense industry secretariat of the possibility of purchasing Russian Su-35 multi-role fighters.

      “Turkey’s purchase of Su-35 fighters is unlikely to have a significant impact on the alignment of forces in the region. If we compare with the American F-35, then we are talking about machines that are similar in their characteristics and capabilities, so I think there is not much difference, ”said Zvi Magen. “Turkey is not at war with anyone now, so this deal will not be able to seriously change the situation.”

      http://in24.org/world/36944
      1. kventinasd
        kventinasd 12 August 2019 17: 08
        +4
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Israel warned Russia against selling Su-35S to Turkey

        Did the caution go up, or will they again take a bow to GDP?
        1. dolfi1
          dolfi1 12 August 2019 20: 36
          0
          Quote: kventinasd
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Israel warned Russia against selling Su-35S to Turkey

          Did the caution go up, or will they again take a bow to GDP?

          Apart from the title of the article, written by an unnamed journalist, nowhere in the article are "caveats" visible. Just a "journalist" invented another fake
      2. dolfi1
        dolfi1 12 August 2019 20: 28
        +1
        "Earlier, Israel did everything to prevent Turkey from receiving the F-35, even the Turks themselves say about this."
        This is not even funny. The Turks generally blame everything. Israel there did not touch this deal sideways.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 12 August 2019 23: 46
          +5
          Quote: dolfi1
          Israel there did not touch this deal sideways.

          Dolphin, do not sculpt us a hunchback, pliz bully
          The Times of Israel:
          "Israel reportedly lobbied Washington to drop Turkey from F-35 program"

          https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-reportedly-lobbied-washington-to-drop-turkey-from-f-35-program/
          1. dolfi1
            dolfi1 14 August 2019 00: 13
            0
            Wow, thank you dear, the news somehow slipped past me. Well, fine, it’s time to punish the Sultan for a long time, and we will pick up the planes and remake them for ourselves. Good news. drinks
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 14 August 2019 00: 45
              +1
              Quote: dolfi1
              Wow thank you dear

              Ein Dawar smile
              1. dolfi1
                dolfi1 14 August 2019 05: 45
                0
                Ein dawar, sheomed lifney aratson smile
                1. Dym71
                  Dym71 14 August 2019 09: 10
                  +1
                  Who seeks will always find yes
    6. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 13 August 2019 14: 29
      +1
      Israel has had a militant appetite lately, which is incommensurably smaller than its own stomach.
      Impunity gives rise to permissiveness, so if for every flight of their planes in support of ISIS, "clubs" from Syria flew from Syria to their airfields, you look and behave more decently.
  2. K-50
    K-50 12 August 2019 15: 44
    +12
    Earlier, Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz announced his readiness to support the Americans and British in the Persian Gulf.

    Katz alone offered to surrender, but this one was somehow wrong. Fake? what
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 15: 57
      +3
      You have incorrect information about Katz there.
      Aron Davidovich Katz (1901, Ryasny market town, Chausky district, Mogilev province, Russian Empire (now the village of Rasno Dribinsky district of the Mogilev region) - 1971, Moscow) - Major General of the Tank Engineering Service of the Soviet Army
      1. Maz
        Maz 12 August 2019 16: 52
        +3
        Not that different:
        Israel Katz was born on September 21, 1955 in the city of Ashkelon. He graduated from military service with the rank of captain. Political activity began in the ranks of the Herut party. He was a special assistant to Ariel Sharon. In November 1998, he was elected to the Knesset on the Likud list, instead of the retired Ehud Olmert, who could not combine the post of mayor of Jerusalem with parliamentary activities. After the 16th Knesset elections, Katz was appointed Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development. After the formation of the government by Benjamin, Netanyahu was appointed Minister of Transport and Road Safety in 2009. In 2007, Israeli police accused Katz of fraud and breach of public confidence [1]. In 2009, the prosecutor closed the case [2].

        Israel Katz lives in Kfar Ahim moshav. Married, has two children.

        Education: Hebrew University First Degree in Jerusalem in International Relations.

        The Minister of Transport Yisrael Katz outlined the development of transport infrastructure as the central focus of his work, understanding that the topic of transport concerns every citizen of Israel and is the engine of economic growth, as well as the only way to bring the periphery closer to the center of the country. The position of the Minister: the construction of new interchanges, the improvement of the existing transport infrastructure and the improvement of public transport systems - all this makes a significant contribution to reducing social inequality in Israel. To this end, the Ministry of Transport is carrying out transport projects totaling more than 100 billion shekels (15 billion shekels of annual investment). There is still a chance to spy on Katz, and for a ride. :)
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 18: 29
          -1
          Captain paratrooper?
      2. Shuttle
        Shuttle 12 August 2019 18: 06
        +2
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        You have incorrect information about Katz there.
        Aron Davidovich Katz (1901, Ryasny market town, Chausky district, Mogilev province, Russian Empire (now the village of Rasno Dribinsky district of the Mogilev region) - 1971, Moscow) - Major General of the Tank Engineering Service of the Soviet Army

        Ha! And what has one already not very young man in my face to tell you ?! That Katz and this Katz are two such big differences that against the background of that small and already major general, this redneck and as yet whole Minister of Foreign Affairs is not visible at point blank range.
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 18: 29
          +2
          This "still a whole" minister is actually a paratrooper who fought in the War of Attrition and in the First Lebanon.
          1. Shuttle
            Shuttle 13 August 2019 06: 43
            +2
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            This "still a whole" minister is actually a paratrooper who fought in the War of Attrition and in the First Lebanon.

            Its glorious landing past does not affect the speed of the projectile.
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 07: 36
              -1
              I do not see the connection
              1. Shuttle
                Shuttle 13 August 2019 10: 11
                +2
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                I do not see the connection


                And now?
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 10: 44
                  0
                  I don’t see it either.
                  1. Shuttle
                    Shuttle 13 August 2019 10: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    I don’t see it either.

                    No need to climb into a strange monastery with its own charter. Jewish Jewish wisdom.
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 11: 06
                      +3
                      Jews have no monasteries feel
                      1. Shuttle
                        Shuttle 13 August 2019 11: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Jews have no monasteries feel

                        It is clear why you do not see any connection. This is a typical violation of logic. Jews have no monasteries, and this is not the same as the Jews.
                        Live in peace with the world and you will be happy!
                      2. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 12: 10
                        +1
                        If I say that the Jews have no monasteries, that is exactly what I mean. Jewish Christian is no longer a Jew
                      3. Shuttle
                        Shuttle 13 August 2019 13: 19
                        +2
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        If I say that the Jews have no monasteries, that is exactly what I mean. Jewish Christian is no longer a Jew

                        Jesus Joseph Davidov (ישוע בן יוסף, Yeshua bin Joseph) You are no longer a Jew ?!

                        And who would have thought!
                      4. Operator
                        Operator 13 August 2019 13: 26
                        -5
                        Do not blaspheme - Jesus is not a man (unlike Buddha, Joseph, John the Baptist and Muhammad).
                      5. Shuttle
                        Shuttle 13 August 2019 13: 38
                        +3
                        Quote: Operator
                        Do not blaspheme - Jesus is not a man (unlike Buddha, Joseph, John the Baptist and Muhammad).

                        In fact, He is completely human and completely God at the same time. In Latin, incarno, and in Russian "incarnation" or "incarnation of God". At least both Catholics and Orthodox think so.
                      6. Operator
                        Operator 13 August 2019 13: 43
                        -5
                        I don’t know how it is with Catholics, but among us Orthodox Christians Jesus is one of the three incarnations of the one God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit).
                      7. sogdy
                        sogdy 13 August 2019 18: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: Operator
                        and among us Orthodox Christians, Jesus is one of the three incarnations of the one God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).

                        Probably, speaking of Vera, it is worth knowing her at the level of religion, and not at the level of pop culture cult enlightenment. The Lord has two sons - the Son of God (that is) and the Son of Man. Both are not part of the Holy Trinity.
                        The second is Christ. And the first is described in Paradise Lost, by the way, canonized and obligatory for study.
                        No, well, if Christ is your Lord, then see the list of sects.
                      8. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 14: 13
                        +1
                        Was this character a monk? I really didn’t know.
                      9. Shuttle
                        Shuttle 14 August 2019 11: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Was this character a monk? I really didn’t know.

                        Although you are trying to translate the arrows gently on monasticism / peace, although it was about Christianity and Jewry, as well as the difference between the latter and the Jewish faith. I will still answer you.
                        Yes, it was. He was a Nazarene. Such then was the way of renunciation and consecration of oneself to God. Including and therefore had a characteristic hairstyle noted in all available evidence. Enlighten yourself. hi
                      10. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 14 August 2019 12: 43
                        +1
                        Nazareth? And how did he turn water into wine (according to your Gospels)? How did you touch the dead?
                      11. Shuttle
                        Shuttle 14 August 2019 14: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Nazareth? And how did he turn water into wine (according to your Gospels)? How did you touch the dead?

                        Nnnda ..... It is very difficult for you with ... arithmetic. Even somehow a little ashamed of the fact that I, the Hare Krishnas (this is the issue of the Gospel), have to explain this to you.
                        How did he touch the dead? (by the way, when?). If we are talking about Lazarus, then He did not touch Lazarus, but only gave him an order. And Lazarus stood up (revived, i.e., rose again) and went.
                        And about wine, again, study the primary sources.
                        At a wedding in Cana of Galilee, He miraculously turned water into wine, moreover, into beautiful, i.e. one that was better than what the organizers of the feast gave. Those. it was a different wine than ordinary. But Jesus did not touch this guilt.
                        The only wine to which the Savior had a touch is the very wine that became His blood. Blood was then considered the receptacle of the soul, i.e. the essence of a living being. In other words, by turning wine into His blood, Jesus joined His disciples to His blood and His body. Bread became the body, as you remember. So Jesus, as promised, came "not to break the Law, but to fulfill it."
                        It is surprising that a similar question is covered here at VO, but it’s better for you to find out that way than to remain in ignorance.
                        Perhaps the Orthodox will correct me, but, as it seems to me, I am not mistaken too much because "I am not speaking from myself."
                      12. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 14 August 2019 16: 02
                        +2
                        Here it is ... Well.
                      13. Shuttle
                        Shuttle 14 August 2019 20: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Here it is ... Well.

                        Always glad to be helpful in a charitable deed. drinks
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 12 August 2019 15: 47
    +14
    As I imagine Israel at the head of the Sunni coalition against Shiite Iran, I wake up in a cold sweat!
    Where does the world go?
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 15: 53
      0
      Well, why immediately headed? This troublesome role certainly belongs to Saudi Arabia. But in terms of the rest, whether it's tech support, intelligence, medical care ...
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 12 August 2019 16: 12
        +3
        Do not flirt, you are God's chosen people! But the natural modesty-ingenuity (the moderator will not miss another definition) instructs yours, as always, to do your deeds from around the corner!
        1. K-50
          K-50 12 August 2019 17: 01
          +3
          Quote: andrewkor
          Do not flirt, you are God's chosen people!

          Well, what about God's chosenness, if only in quotes. They themselves appointed themselves "beloved wife". lol
    2. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 12 August 2019 16: 53
      +1
      I cannot imagine this. From the word at all. Even Israel's participation in a possible "coalition" I cannot imagine.
    3. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 12 August 2019 17: 22
      -1
      Israel in this coalition is like a dancer. To which the eggs interfere.
      Set the American dog in the war on Iran and the navel from this scratch your own pleasure ..
      Here it is more interesting: 1 - how Russia and China will show themselves in that Persian region
      2. - What will be the legal basis of the coalition in the Persian Gulf. The issue at the UN did not seem to be raised So far, there is nothing besides the US hotel
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 12 August 2019 21: 19
        +4
        -five"
        .. a negative result from the "interested" side = excellent result .. laughing
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 13 August 2019 18: 09
          0
          Quote: To be or not to be
          .negative result from the "interested"

          He intrigued me too.
          By the way, in the Persian Gulf the legal status may well change. The Persians promised to revise the borders and exclude the neutral zone. And the precedent will be the status of the Northern Sea Route.
  4. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 15: 58
    0
    Well, what about intelligence is clear. What is accompanying support? Strikes against Iranian forces in Syria and Iraq, technical assistance, medicine?
  5. dolfi1
    dolfi1 12 August 2019 16: 12
    +1
    "It should be recalled that earlier the Israeli aviation struck on the territory of Iraq. The Israeli media said that the strikes were carried out on the targets of Hezbollah, which is" seriously entrenched in Iraq. "
    - these are just the assumptions of who struck, Israel did not speak out on this subject.

    "Earlier, Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz announced its readiness to support the Americans and the British in the Persian Gulf. According to him, the Israeli army can help the allies by collecting intelligence and" accompanying support. "
    - that's exactly intelligence, and "accompanying support" is possibly drones, etc., I don't think Israel will send a fleet there. In general, the "news" sucked from the finger, Israel is likely to exchange intelligence on Iran and with the United States, and by the way with Russia.
  6. Doliva63
    Doliva63 12 August 2019 16: 21
    +3
    Quote: K-50
    Earlier, Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz announced his readiness to support the Americans and British in the Persian Gulf.

    Katz alone offered to surrender, but this one was somehow wrong. Fake? what

    Cool! good drinks
  7. Doliva63
    Doliva63 12 August 2019 16: 23
    +4
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    You have incorrect information about Katz there.
    Aron Davidovich Katz (1901, Ryasny market town, Chausky district, Mogilev province, Russian Empire (now the village of Rasno Dribinsky district of the Mogilev region) - 1971, Moscow) - Major General of the Tank Engineering Service of the Soviet Army

    This is our Katz, do not touch!
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 18: 31
      -3
      Not yours, but Belarusian.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 12 August 2019 23: 51
        +5
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        Not yours, but Belarusian.

        In Israel, "Rusim", indiscriminately, so ours! wassat
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 05: 52
          0
          Firstly, they always clearly distinguished from the Russian-speaking "Georgian", "Bukharim", "Caucasian". Secondly, for the last five years, not everything has been "russed".
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 13 August 2019 16: 40
        +2
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        Not yours, but Belarusian.

        My ancestors are from ON, so ours! laughing
        In general, it's good to be Russian - almost all people are brothers laughing drinks
  8. Cocaine
    Cocaine 12 August 2019 16: 27
    0
    Let Israel into the garden with cabbage .... There it will begin, those are still provocateurs!
    Now, if the Russian VKS were entrusted, there would certainly be order and security.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 August 2019 16: 35
      0
      Quote: Kokain
      Now, if the Russian VKS were entrusted, there would definitely be order and security

      Well do not break because we really
    2. Nycomed
      Nycomed 12 August 2019 16: 40
      +3
      "Now, if the Russian Aerospace Forces were entrusted, there would definitely be order and security."
      They entrusted the Russian VKS with Syria, as soon as 5 years. Is there order and security?
      1. loki565
        loki565 12 August 2019 16: 46
        +2
        If the United States and Israel were not there, then order would be put in place in one year.
        1. Oleg Zorin
          Oleg Zorin 12 August 2019 16: 51
          -1
          Arabs and order are incompatible.
          1. loki565
            loki565 12 August 2019 16: 56
            +4
            Until the Amerikos came with color revolutions, Syria was a completely prosperous country.
            1. loki565
              loki565 12 August 2019 17: 05
              +2
              Until the Amerikos came with color revolutions, Syria was a completely prosperous country.





            2. Oleg Zorin
              Oleg Zorin 12 August 2019 17: 11
              -3
              You do not understand, dear Loki. Within one country, they can provide some sort of order. But here they are completely incapable of collective work within the framework of the coalition.
              1. loki565
                loki565 12 August 2019 17: 17
                +1
                The policy of "divide and rule" has been pursued there for a long time. The West does not need strong countries with large oil reserves, which is why various revolutions and local conflicts break out there.
                1. Oleg Zorin
                  Oleg Zorin 12 August 2019 17: 31
                  +3
                  Dear Loki, a variety of local showdowns in the Middle East flared up at a time when oil was just a smelly slurry.
                  1. sogdy
                    sogdy 13 August 2019 18: 29
                    0
                    Oleg, take May, which is Karl. This Czech German was a geographer and ethnographer, a specialist in the countries of the East. Full member of the Berlin Academy and corresponding member of the Russian. There is about the education of the Arabs as a people and a nation. Vashcheta, these are many tribes with completely different histories and interests, most of them are initially hostile to each other. But it is their "Arabity" that unites and reconciles them.
                    So talking about "Arabs in general" is a spherical horse in a vacuum.
                    Politically, the Arab world is 200 years behind the European one, but the gap is narrowing all the time. Even in the middle of the 20th century, Europeans were equally divided, only they did not have the strength to fight. It was an infusion from the USA. By the way, without the United States and the Warsaw bloc, they would have half rested.

                    There are two ways to try
                    1) eliminate the source of hostility, make it interdependent. In this case, it will be necessary to raise the technological level.
                    2) to force the depletion of resources - the easiest way is military operations, so that there are no forces left to fight. Well, and subordinate at the financial level, as a united Europe.
                    As you should have understood, the first way is the USSR and the Russian Federation + China, the second way is being implemented by the USA.
                2. Nycomed
                  Nycomed 12 August 2019 17: 46
                  -2
                  But what about Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, the same Brunei? There are large oil reserves, but no revolutions.
                  1. loki565
                    loki565 12 August 2019 18: 05
                    +3
                    There is a puppet government there, and those who begin to raise their heads half a revolution, or a neighboring state begins to launch baboons. By the way, at the embassy of which country did the journalist be dismembered ??? And everyone let it go on the brakes as it is a vassal of the usa
                    1. dolfi1
                      dolfi1 12 August 2019 20: 48
                      -3
                      So where are the entries from the journalist’s watch? You yourself watched the video that you posted? laughing
                      1. loki565
                        loki565 12 August 2019 21: 24
                        +4
                        Are you a fan of listening to how a person is dismembered ??? or do you think it will show on federal channels ??? I don’t know how you do in Israel, but we don’t practice this in Russia))) but seriously, they found the body, also found the people who took it out of the embassy, ​​and the workers themselves already admitted, like an accident, and then they got scared and dismembered the body.
                      2. dolfi1
                        dolfi1 13 August 2019 17: 09
                        -4
                        No, dear Loki (and suits you by the way wink ), this idea was born in your brain. And I'm just talking about the evidence about which your video material. fool
                      3. sogdy
                        sogdy 13 August 2019 18: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: dolfi1
                        And I'm just talking about evidence,

                        And what should be the proof? In Israel, the theory of forensic evidence is not the same as forensic science. In the USA, the court accepts ONLY certificates (like "B ** will be"). Turkey has its own troubles. In Sudan, the Supreme Court is ruled by a monarch. Whom he considered guilty on the basis of the Turkish investigation and the interests of the United States, he no longer exists. Savsem net.
          2. Maz
            Maz 12 August 2019 16: 57
            +3
            Do not say Assad tigers are quite adequate.
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 12 August 2019 18: 18
              0
              Who are the "Assad Tigers"? I just never heard of it. Pure curiosity.
        2. Cocaine
          Cocaine 12 August 2019 17: 20
          0
          Quote: loki565
          If the United States and Israel were not there, then order would be put in place in one year.

          Definitely, as soon as hostilities are dying down and it seems that we are starting to negotiate with everyone .. The bombing of Israel Syria and everything down the drain should follow ..
          And ours was shot down with 14 specialists, in general, what a world .. Iran, glory to Allah, somehow fights off .. But they also want to turn this country into Iraq, Libya, Syria ... I think it’s not worth showing a finger to anyone. Everyone, everything is clear ..! hi
        3. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 12 August 2019 21: 32
          0
          Quote: loki565
          If the United States and Israel were not there, then order would be put in place in one year.

          if there weren’t the USA, Israel, Bad terrorists and terribly biting flies, then there would have been no problems.
          and yes, it doesn’t work because of how hard it is.
          1. loki565
            loki565 12 August 2019 21: 35
            +2
            Everything is correct, if there weren’t the USA there wouldn’t be terrorists either. First, they trained, armed and caught up the broads in Libya, and then in Syria
      2. balunn
        balunn 12 August 2019 16: 51
        +2
        It depends on what and how to compare?
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  9. Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 12 August 2019 16: 51
    0
    Most likely Israel does not want to control anything in the Strait of Hormuz. The Foreign Ministry's demarche is intended to show Trump, who is not too far off in foreign policy, that Israel cannot join a possible "coalition." Taftology turned out to be "possibility-impossibility". Well, okay, how it happened.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 13 August 2019 18: 48
      -2
      Quote: Oleg Zorin
      near to Trump's foreign policy issues

      Trump, of course, is a showman, but he is less distant in foreign policy than we all put together. Alas, there are no fools at this level.
  10. Hazarov
    Hazarov 12 August 2019 16: 52
    0
    Uncle Sam wants a Gulf War and a big world war! And Israel, wagging its tail with all its might, demonstrates calf delight and readiness to fulfill any will of its owner!
    Mda No more proud Jews from the USSR in Israel! There are only mongrel demonstrating unlimited devotion to the owner!
    Did anyone ask common Israelis about wanting to die for Uncle Sam’s interests?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 12 August 2019 17: 09
      +7
      Quote: Hazarov
      And Israel, wagging its tail with all its might, demonstrates calf delight and readiness to fulfill any will of its owner!

      There would still be to figure out who wags whom bully
      The Jews will not blindly follow anyone, they understand very well that tomorrow, Obama will easily take the place of Trump No. 2 and write to all agreements, they have nothing to rely on except for themselves! yes
    2. Rabioso
      Rabioso 12 August 2019 18: 35
      -1
      Actually, it’s just the opposite. Uncle Sam’s wishes completely coincided with ours. Only he has a point. He himself is afraid and does not allow us to do what is needed
      1. Hazarov
        Hazarov 12 August 2019 19: 03
        +2
        Uncle Sam’s wishes completely coincided with ours. Only he has a point. He himself is afraid and does not allow us to do what is needed

        Oh how! Those. Israel has problems with the Fed and TNCs! It is Israel that transferred industry to China in pursuit of profits for Amer TNCs! This Israeli shekel is filled with oil and is the foundation of the Concrete Woods financial system of the world! Do I understand you correctly? And the people of Israel now have to fight for it all, not for life, but for death!
        Did I understand you correctly? AND? After all, the Israeli patriots are so interested in Amer interests that they will die for them! Correctly? AND?
        Do you even understand what you’re saying? Or does your personal profit blind your eyes and you don't give a shit about ordinary Jews?
  11. winnie
    winnie 12 August 2019 17: 27
    +2
    Here zhezh what bloodthirsty. Pens itch - let it fight!
  12. RussianUzbek
    RussianUzbek 12 August 2019 17: 38
    +2
    Not that Katz offers ...
  13. Klim chugunkin
    Klim chugunkin 12 August 2019 18: 05
    +4
    Yes, let them catch up! This may sound cynical, but rising tensions in the Persian Gulf will lead to higher oil prices, which is beneficial to us.
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 19: 28
      0
      The last time, in the late 1980s, there was a tanker war, and then the Gulf War. Have these events raised the price of oil?
      1. Klim chugunkin
        Klim chugunkin 12 August 2019 20: 34
        +2
        No, the last time is the Iraq War. Oil price reached $ 120 per barrel. I can also remind you how oil prices soared after the Arab-Israeli War of 1973. So go ahead Israel!
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 22: 08
          0
          Yeah. It was 120, then dropped sharply to 60 bucks. By the way, in 1973 it was the same: a sharp increase in prices, the USSR reoriented to export of energy carriers, which are gradually falling in price, depriving the Soviet economy of foreign currency recharge, and at the end a sharp drop.
          1. Klim chugunkin
            Klim chugunkin 13 August 2019 02: 23
            +2
            Well, it’s better to have a couple of years at $ 120, and then again at $ 60, than a couple of years just at $ 60. If there was money, we’ll figure out where to spend it.
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 05: 49
              0
              Well yes. The USSR spent on PLO terrorists in Nicaragua.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 13 August 2019 18: 54
                0
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                and PLO terrorists

                The PLO is not on the UN list of terrorists. But Israeli intelligence is still on the list. Draw conclusions.
                1. Zeev Zeev
                  Zeev Zeev 13 August 2019 19: 13
                  +1
                  Is Israeli intelligence on the list of terrorists? In how.
                  1. sogdy
                    sogdy 17 August 2019 17: 26
                    0
                    Yes. The Mossad is included in the international (UN-ovsky) list of terrorists for "revenge" in Europe and the United States, by the way, the revenge was anyhow, there is not a single proof of the involvement of those killed by the Mossad in the Munich explosion.
                    And you did not know?
                    1. Zeev Zeev
                      Zeev Zeev 17 August 2019 18: 39
                      0
                      Is there a link?
                      1. sogdy
                        sogdy 21 August 2019 13: 23
                        0
                        Banned in the search engine? Or "too expensive"?
                      2. Zeev Zeev
                        Zeev Zeev 21 August 2019 13: 32
                        0
                        Or am I just lazy to look for such nonsense?
    2. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 12 August 2019 19: 37
      -1
      Beneficial only in the short term.
      Diamond oil will be taken an order of magnitude less.
      The world economy will fall, it will not be up to oil.
      I'm not talking about gas prices yet.
      1. Klim chugunkin
        Klim chugunkin 12 August 2019 20: 39
        +2
        After the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and at a price of $ 120 per barrel, life was fine. The Golden Age of Putin's Russia.
    3. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 12 August 2019 21: 36
      0
      Quote: Klim Chugunkin
      let them catch up! This may sound cynical, but rising tensions in the Persian Gulf will lead to higher oil prices, which is beneficial to us.


      in addition to oil, meat snacks should be kept in the house
  14. Rabioso
    Rabioso 12 August 2019 18: 32
    0
    Do not worry you so. We will not choke. And then Iran also snoops its snobel into all holes. We just try to nip his snob
  15. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 12 August 2019 20: 00
    0
    Earlier, Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz announced his readiness to support the Americans and British in the Persian Gulf.

    Katz does not offer to give up.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 12 August 2019 20: 10
      -4
      Well, as if Katz offered support. Information rules the world. Well, Russia has a chance. We do not beat the states. So whoever needs to, heard.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 13 August 2019 18: 58
        0
        Quote: Shahno
        Well, as if Katz offered support. Information rules the world. Well, Russia has a chance.

        And the Russian Federation holds the Army Games of submariners in Iran ... Already. How many countries are there?
  16. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 12 August 2019 23: 22
    +2
    Meanwhile, in Baghdad, a missile depot of the pro-Iranian Shiite militia blew up, and the Lebanese channel Al Mayadin (associated with Hezbollah) immediately announced a missile strike.
  17. Most kind
    Most kind 13 August 2019 00: 36
    +2
    The main thing is to crash the airdromes first, so that not one bastard gets out, even who can speak Russian
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 13 August 2019 06: 48
      -1
      Quote: Most Kind
      The main thing is to crash the airdromes first, so that not one bastard gets out, even who can speak Russian

      look crushed do not crash comrade stratech.
  18. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 13 August 2019 01: 06
    -1
    It smacks of anti-Semitism. laughing
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 13 August 2019 19: 00
      0
      Ashkenazi are not Semites. But all around Israel are Semites.
      So shta "anti-Semitism" is now engaged in Israel.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 13 August 2019 21: 09
        0
        Quote: sogdy
        Ashkenazi are not Semites.

        Yes, do not pay attention, this is local folklore. laughing hi
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 17 August 2019 17: 21
          0
          Local folklore? The Saxons and other "non-Jewish" peoples are called Ashkenazi, since in the same English there is no word that means "Jew" as a nationality. So it comes out in a tolerant performance "Ashkenazi - a member of a foreign Jewish community." But in fact - a non-Jewish Jew, trying to equate himself with the Jews.
  19. high
    high 13 August 2019 02: 06
    +1
    Quote: maxim947
    Israel has had a militant appetite of late, which is incommensurably smaller than its own stomach. We decided to become the main police officer in the region. And this is as a result of the still unipolar world ..

    This is Israel’s belated reaction to the rocket attacks on its territory by Iran, at the hands of their satellites Hamas.
    A couple of months ago, Hamas fired about 600 Iranian missiles through Israeli territory.
    For many years, there has been a secretive war between Israel and the Arab Sunni countries against Iran.
  20. nobody111body
    nobody111body 13 August 2019 09: 14
    0
    until we expel all of these Katz Israel, or as Ikhtam, we will always be the loser from Russia; Princess Elizabeth very well understood this and issued a decree of 1742, since she was no more stupid than our Vladimir
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 13 August 2019 19: 04
      0
      Type Settlement and Zhmerynka? But the same Elizabeth led the Jewish towns in all cities of Siberia. A very mixed lady ...
  21. Operator
    Operator 13 August 2019 18: 48
    -1
    Quote: sogdy
    The Lord has two sons - the Son of God (that is) and the Son of Man. Both do not enter the Holy Trinity. Second - Christ

    Are you a Jew or a sectarian baptized with four fingers?
  22. Shahno
    Shahno 13 August 2019 18: 56
    0
    Quote: sogdy
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    and PLO terrorists

    The PLO is not on the UN list of terrorists. But Israeli intelligence is still on the list. Draw conclusions.

    Not understood. What evidence?
  23. Shahno
    Shahno 13 August 2019 19: 07
    0
    Quote: sogdy
    Ashkenazi are not Semites. But all around Israel are Semites.
    So shta "anti-Semitism" is now engaged in Israel.

    Well, Ashkenazi have a Semitic line. By the way, an interesting question. I documented my current line to the Catherine repressions. Previously, solid legends ..
  24. Revolver
    Revolver 13 August 2019 19: 40
    0
    From the mere mention of Israel, the ayatollah point makes an involuntary bench press.
  25. Ildar with
    Ildar with 14 August 2019 04: 50
    0
    If you look closely at this situation, you can understand the desire of the Jews because the cash flows that they receive from Germany will soon EXAPID !!! So they are looking for sources for a NEW Holocaust !!!