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The TTX of the Grom-E1 rocket and the Grom-E2 PUB for Su-57 and not only are disclosed

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The TASS news service with reference to KTRV (Tactical Missile Armament Corporation) provides data on the tactical and technical characteristics of the latest Russian aviation missiles "Thunder". KTRV reports that tests of two modifications - "Grom-E1" and "Grom-E2" have been successfully completed.


The TTX of the Grom-E1 rocket and the Grom-E2 PUB for Su-57 and not only are disclosed


The Thunder series missiles as weapons can be used on various military aircraft, including the Su-57.

From a statement by an employee of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation:

“Grom-E1” and “Grom-E2” have a normal aerodynamic design and a unified cylindrical body with a bow animated part and a folding swept wing.

According to the source TASS, this allows you to integrate the rocket with the aircraft not only on the external nodes of the suspension, but also in the internal compartments.

"Thunder-E1" - guided missile with an engine in the rear. "Thunder-E2" - a planning aviation munition with an additional high-explosive fragmentation part. Both one and the other missiles (if such a term is generally appropriate for Grom-E2) are used for ground targets with known coordinates.

As already noted, the performance characteristics of aircraft weapons are disclosed. The Grom-E1 missile is capable of hitting a target at a distance of 120 km, being fired from altitudes from 500 m to 12 km. At the same time, the aircraft speed range for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h. Linear rocket overloads are up to 4 units. The starting mass of such a modification of “Thunder” is 594 kg with a length of 4,2 m. The sweep of the missile wing is 190 cm. The warhead is 315 kg.

The Grom-E2 Planning Aircraft Ammunition (PAB) has a mass of 598 kg and identical wing length and wingspan parameters as the Grom-E1. The mass of the warheads is 480 kg (two parts are 315 and 165 kg). Launch range with planning - up to 50 km. The aircraft’s altitude and speed range for effective launch is identical to the Thunder-E1.

The take-off and landing resource for both versions of aircraft ammunition is 30, and the service life is 12 years.

With all this, it has already traditionally been said about the high export potential of such aircraft ammunition.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 5 August 2019 17: 42
    +17
    At the same time, the aircraft speed range for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h.
    Is it that you can use it with the "Corn"?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 5 August 2019 17: 48
      +14
      Quote: svp67
      Is it that you can use it with the "Corn"?

      No, it's dangerous from the "Corn" - it can be corroded by all kinds of filth for spraying the fields, but they don't give guarantees for any nasty things. Yes, and the pilot on the "Corn" is again uncomfortable - 4,2 meters, lying under his feet - you can get soiled on your heels during flight. And when dropping to enemy positions - hands.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 7 August 2019 08: 33
        +1
        Quote: Volodin
        No, it's dangerous from the "Corn" - it can be corroded by all kinds of filth for spraying the fields, but they don't give guarantees for any nasty things. Yes, and the pilot on the "Corn" is again uncomfortable - 4,2 meters, lying under his feet - you can get soiled on your heels during flight. And when dropping to enemy positions - hands.

        Something like this. winked And with a sharp and simultaneous load drop of 598 kg, an aerodynamic jump to a height of 59,8 meters is possible. Dumping in "bursts" generally deprives the enemy of the opportunity to hit the "Corn" because he switches to the flight mode, referred to among the air aces as "the run of the funny kangaroo" laughing
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 17: 55
      +4
      News from the summer of 2017.
      Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation (KTRV) is preparing a new planning bomb for the Su-34 and MiG-35. It so far has only a factory index - product 9-A-7759, and is at the stage of flight design tests. However, according to the plan, state tests should have already gone. The process slows down the 12th Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Since the Institute deals with the problems of the effectiveness of the use of nuclear weapons, it can be assumed that one of the options for equipping a bomb should be a tactical nuclear charge.

      The bomb has three modifications. One of them is a rocket (9-A-7759), equipped with a solid-fuel engine and having a range of 120 km. The other two (9-A1-7759 and 9-A2-7759) are gliding bombs with a range of 65 km. This, of course, is less than that of the CBU-39, but it is a record for Russian ammunition of this type.

      The length of the ammunition is 4,2 m, the diameter is 310 mm. The minimum mass of the warhead for a rocket is 315 kg, and the maximum for a 9-A1-7759 modification is 480 kg. Bombing is carried out in the speed range of the aircraft from 500 km / h to 1200 km / h.
      The guidance system for all versions has an inertial block and an noise-immune channel for receiving a GLONASS signal. The first two warheads are high-explosive fragmentation warheads, and the third modification has volume-detonating warheads.

      But, as we expected, it is possible to equip a bomb with a nuclear charge. It may well be that this is the Russian response to the appearance of the twelfth modification of the American tactical nuclear bomb B61.

      https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/212223/
      By the way, the B61 mod 12 is a planning bomb with a variable explosive power, from units to tens of kilotons. It is quite compact: length - 3,58 m, maximum diameter - 330 mm, weight - about 320 kg.
    3. kapitan92
      kapitan92 5 August 2019 20: 09
      +4
      The TASS information service, citing KTRV (Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation), provides data on the tactical and technical characteristics of the latest Russian Thunder aircraft missiles

      These products were presented at MAKS 2015.
    4. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 22: 10
      +12
      At the same time, the aircraft speed range for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h.


      It is necessary to fix 140-445 km / h at 140-445 m / s.

      The Grom-E1 rocket can be launched at a distance of 10 to 120 kilometers to the target at an altitude of 500 meters to 12 kilometers. The range of speeds of the aircraft carrier is 140-445 m / s. The rocket has a combined guidance system with trajectory correction based on GPS / GLONASS signals. In the front half of the hull there is a high-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 315 kg with a contact fuse.

      https://rg.ru/2019/08/05/stali-izvestny-harakteristiki-novejshih-aviacionnyh-raket-grom.html
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 6 August 2019 00: 56
        +2
        I was initially confused by such speed indicators.
  2. fa2998
    fa2998 5 August 2019 17: 46
    +8
    Quote: svp67
    At the same time, the aircraft speed range for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h.
    Is it that you can use it with the "Corn"?

    Rather, from a helicopter, helicopter speeds. Something they sweep the blizzard! hi
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 5 August 2019 17: 51
    -1
    Specialists, if any, explain. Is this a unified ammunition? And rocket and PAB. In one case? And then, as always, and from the side, there is no bow with these secretaries. Only in one case it works like a rocket. And in the other, only plans? What can you understand there? And what exactly did those who printed it for the media (Do not confuse with the editors of the site) boasted or complained? Show the pictures at least what it is about. If you can’t. So who needs these characteristics?
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 18: 23
      +2
      This is a planning bomb with 3 modifications, one of the modifications is a solid-fuel rocket with a range of 120 km, two other planning bombs with a range of 65 km (analogues of Spice 2000, which is also 65 km away). For further details, see the quote from my post above.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 5 August 2019 20: 28
        -4
        Thank you. In general, this family is one of the bombs, so to speak. Only one has an engine. Which can send it to the maximum at 120 km? Do you understand correctly? If so. It's simple, then why the devil does not publish the scheme of this ammunition? After all, the specialists still understand everything. And we have them. Why and from whom then all this where the unnecessary nonsense !?
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 21: 11
          +2
          They understood me correctly. But is it worth publishing a scheme of the latest ammunition? For someone to copy it, while our specialists have been working on this scheme for years? Why such charity is needed? Give an example of publishing schemes of the latest products. This is a matter of judgment.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 6 August 2019 03: 29
            0
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            And what's the point of publishing a scheme of the latest ammunition?

            "Series" "Thunder" is developed on the basis of the X-38 missile ...
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 6 August 2019 00: 38
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          then why the devil doesn’t publish the scheme of this ammunition? After all, the specialists still understand everything. And we and them. Why and from whom then all this where the unnecessary nonsense !?

          1. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 6 August 2019 09: 02
            +1
            I see. JDAM analogs. A necessary thing.
  4. faridg7
    faridg7 5 August 2019 17: 55
    -1
    Somehow annoying speed range to start this. for the An2-maize, a bit too much, for a 140-445 fighter it’s not enough. Or is it an instrument speed?
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  5. Likvidator
    Likvidator 5 August 2019 17: 57
    0
    Not special, but I feel our Kulibins are not in vain eating bread ...
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 5 August 2019 19: 20
      -1
      Quote: Likvidator
      Not special, but I feel our Kulibins are not in vain eating bread ...

      In vain, oh vain. If the BP was for MI - 28 or KA-52 then everything falls into place. But if declared for SU - 57, then in FIG it is needed, such a power supply
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 19: 49
        +5
        That is, in your opinion, in vain does the Israeli Air Force use the Spice-1000, Spice-2000, Spice-100 gliding bombs, and do the Americans use their own GBU?
        Such ammunition is needed for the Su-57 and other fighters to strike without entering the air defense zone, while it is not always the same to use the more expensive X-59MK2, X-38MA, X-38MT.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 5 August 2019 20: 04
          -2
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter

          That is, in your opinion, in vain does the Israeli Air Force use the Spice-1000, Spice-2000, Spice-100 gliding bombs, and do the Americans use their own GBU?

          And what is the maximum carrier speed of these bombs at the time of dropping?
          To be honest, I don’t know. But really no more than 445 km / h?
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 5 August 2019 20: 42
            +2
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter

            That is, in your opinion, in vain does the Israeli Air Force use the Spice-1000, Spice-2000, Spice-100 gliding bombs, and do the Americans use their own GBU?

            And what is the maximum carrier speed of these bombs at the time of dropping?
            To be honest, I don’t know. But really no more than 445 km / h?

            Much more...
            That would be on 120km planning. you need to have a launch height of 12km and a speed of 1-1,2M
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 6 August 2019 09: 51
              0
              Quote: SovAr238A

              Much more...
              That would be on 120km planning. you need to have a launch height of 12km and a speed of 1-1,2M

              In-oh-from. That is why I was "angry" at our "Kulibins". But, I suppose, in vain. Most likely it is necessary to "get angry" at our would-be scribblers. After all, they wrote - "At the same time, the range of aircraft speeds for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h."
          2. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 21: 04
            +2
            And what is the maximum carrier speed of these bombs at the time of dropping?
            To be honest, I don’t know. But really no more than 445 km / h?

            The bomb has three modifications. One of them is a rocket (9-A-7759), also known as Thunder-E1, equipped with a solid-fuel engine and having a range of 120 km. The other two (9-A1-7759 and 9-A2-7759) Thunder-E2 are gliding bombs with a range of 65 km.
            Bombing is carried out in the speed range of the aircraft from 500 km / h to 1200 km / h.
            See my first post above. There is a quote in the explanation.
  6. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 5 August 2019 17: 57
    -2
    Interesting specifically "Thunder-E1", a la "GBU-39", only heavier (600kg vs 130kg) and flies further 10 km. (120 km and 110 km).
    Well, the KAB on the 120-km obviously will not be superfluous.
    GBU-39

    Guess yourself.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 19: 26
      +1
      "Thunder-E1" - guided missile with an engine in the rear. "Thunder-E2" - a planning aviation munition with an additional high-explosive fragmentation.

      Thunder-E1 is a rocket at 120 km, not KAB.
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 5 August 2019 19: 34
        -3
        Thunder-E1 is a rocket at 120 km, not KAB.

        My mistake.) I apologize.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 5 August 2019 18: 08
    0
    At the same time, the aircraft speed range for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h.
    .... This is under what plane? .. They decided to upgrade IL-2 and take it into service again?
    The take-off and landing resource for both versions of aircraft ammunition is 30, and the service life is 12 years.
    ... And this is to understand, not about the service life, take-off and landing of ammunition ..? ... It seems so impressive that before the publication of TASS, the performance characteristics were published in a foreign magazine, but now we read the features of the translation ...
    1. D16
      D16 5 August 2019 18: 30
      +9
      There is such a characteristic of ammunition. After 30 cycles for defect and bulkhead. From the bulkhead back to the next thirtieth landing.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 5 August 2019 18: 37
        0
        Ahhh ... how ... I see, thanks ...
  8. Astronaut
    Astronaut 5 August 2019 18: 11
    +15
    At the same time, the aircraft speed range for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h

    I think the author was sealed up, we are talking about meters per second
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 5 August 2019 20: 07
      0
      Quote: Astronaut
      At the same time, the aircraft speed range for effective launch is very wide: 140-445 km / h

      I think the author was sealed up, we are talking about meters per second

      https://rg.ru/2019/08/05/stali-izvestny-harakteristiki-novejshih-aviacionnyh-raket-grom.html
  9. Lesorub
    Lesorub 5 August 2019 18: 20
    0
    With all this, it has already traditionally been said about the high export potential of such aviation ammunition.

    We didn’t manage to put it in a series - but we think ahead of export! )), nothing changes!
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    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 5 August 2019 19: 47
      0
      Quote: Lesorub
      With all this, it has already traditionally been said about the high export potential of such aviation ammunition.

      We didn’t manage to put it in a series - but we think ahead of export! )), nothing changes!

      They just decided to publish the TTX, but the real ones cannot be disclosed yet, so they published the export specifications. This is a common practice - and did not lie and did not tell the truth.
  10. Hey
    Hey 5 August 2019 18: 21
    +6
    With all this, it has already traditionally been said about the high export potential of such aviation ammunition.

    In the very name of the ammunition "Grom-E1" and "Grom-E2", there is the letter "E" - the export version, therefore their TTD appeared in the access.
  11. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 5 August 2019 18: 36
    +3
    On air-to-air missiles. Curious news about the final tests of K-77ME (Product 180 BD). Although the RVV-SD inaccuracy quote is K-77M (Product 180), not R-77-1. Namely K-77M (Product 180) will go to the Su-57, as it was ordered, and in parallel the K-77ME (Product 180 DB) being developed was made on an initiative basis, and it was more expensive.
    However, KTRV is testing a medium-range air-to-air missile, which should either equal the range of the AIM-120D or surpass it. This is a modification of the R-77−1 missile, which is also called RVV-SD, adopted for service in 2013. Its range is 110 km. But now at the final stage of testing is the “180BD product” or K-77ME, in which the range has been significantly increased, and other characteristics have been strengthened. The characteristics were not disclosed, but you can get some idea about them by considering the parameters of P-77−1, which will be improved. The maximum speed of the rocket is 4,5 M, the target to be destroyed is 3600 km / h. The height of the target’s flight is from 20 m to 2500 m. The warhead mass is 22 kg. Aiming at the target is the same as that of KS-172. K-77ME is smaller than an ultra-long missile, and is located in the missile compartment of the fighter. There is evidence that Russian long-range and medium-range air-to-air missiles are capable of independently detecting and capturing a target during an autonomous flight.

    https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/179258/
  12. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 5 August 2019 18: 51
    +4
    This is for the export version. The numbers for our VKS are secret.
  13. Svetlana
    Svetlana 5 August 2019 18: 56
    0
    The take-off and landing resource for both versions of the aviation munition is 30

    Explain who is in the topic, it is a lot or a little and why this restriction generally arises.
  14. shubin
    shubin 5 August 2019 19: 09
    -3
    30 years ago, for the disclosure of such information, they could have easily soldered "treason to the Motherland"! laughing
  15. cniza
    cniza 5 August 2019 19: 10
    +5
    With all this, it has already traditionally been said about the high export potential of such aviation ammunition.


    So the letter E indicates that these are export products and their performance characteristics.
  16. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -2
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Quote: Sky Strike fighter

    That is, in your opinion, in vain does the Israeli Air Force use the Spice-1000, Spice-2000, Spice-100 gliding bombs, and do the Americans use their own GBU?

    And what is the maximum carrier speed of these bombs at the time of dropping?
    To be honest, I don’t know. But really no more than 445 km / h?

    there is some kind of error in speed ... where it will fly at such speed, only to a neighbor in the garden.
    PAB is dumped from high altitude to 9-10 km and at high speeds, the trajectory and range of flight depends on altitude and speed, its weight, design and guidance method ....
    Probably there m / s 445m / s = 1602 km / h
    1. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 5 August 2019 23: 08
      -1
      They will be dumped from a large height in most cases, but sometimes it is necessary from a small one to a neighbor.
  17. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 5 August 2019 22: 02
    0
    "... at a distance of up to 120 km, being launched from an altitude of 500 m to 12 km
    The range of altitudes and speeds of the aircraft for effective launch is identical to that of Grom-E1. "////
    ----
    For the planning munition to be planned, it must be dropped from a great height.
    At least 5 km.
  18. RideMaster
    RideMaster 5 August 2019 22: 05
    0
    50 km is not enough, but do we have jae-sem type?
  19. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 5 August 2019 23: 03
    -1
    Everything is clear, advertising is the engine of commerce.
  20. Michman
    Michman 6 August 2019 01: 10
    0
    And the "brothers" will not jump indignantly. They seem to be sawing some kind of wunderwaffe called ⚡ thunder.