Bullets in the history of mankind: gentlemanly, doom-doom and not only

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Against the background of the wealth of small calibers weapons There are a lot of rumors, turning into myths, about the action of those or other ammunition. Some myths pass into the category of enduring, and are reprinted, transmitted "from generation to generation." One of these - "a great muffler from the usual pillows."





The plot of "Kalashnikov Media" is devoted to the nuances of small arms ammunition. He also allows to debunk many myths that are associated with bullets, with their destructive and stopping power.

The video tells about the historical development of bullets. So, rave reviews of doctors who visited the front line about so-called gentlemen’s bullets are given. We are talking about bullets that began to appear in the XIX century, replacing the lead-free shell. The enthusiasm of the medical profession was often associated with a comparative analysis - the mark left by the “new” bullet: “neat and easily sewn up”. In particular, the Russian army was confronted with “gentlemanly” bullets during the Russian-Japanese war of the early 20th century.

An expert from Kalashnikov Media, Andrei Ulanov, talks about bullets that appeared in different countries and were used by different armies in the world at different times. One of the parts of his story is devoted to the so-called dum-dum bullets, they are also expansive bullets - the ones that increase the diameter when hit by a "soft" target. Such bullets were often used by the Finnish army in the war against the USSR 1939-1940.

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  1. +3
    2 August 2019 15: 18
    Collection of spent bullets.

    Ordinary FMJ bullets of .45 ACP, 9x19 calibres and fully lead WC turrets .38 Special.
    In the lower right corner, a torn shell from a half-shell revolving bullet .357 Magnum.
    I did not keep pieces of lead from it.

    All of these bullets were shot in a vacuum-packed ELFA paper catalog of radio components. Nothing pierced, except for the full-shell .357 Magnum. She's not here.

    In bones and meat, FMJ bullets do not deform in this way. We can say that they are almost not deformed at all.

    Therefore, it is necessary (where permitted by law) to use expansive bullets or bullets with a focus that forces them to start somersaulting earlier. Down on the video.



    1. +2
      2 August 2019 15: 33
      I’m not sure that any of the words used above is not obscene in VO.
      1. +3
        2 August 2019 16: 04
        is not obscene on VO.

        In Russian, all words are obscene. The meaning depends on the intonation and facial expression of the speaker.
  2. +2
    2 August 2019 15: 35
    Jacketed bullets are "humane", but uncoated bullets are not!
    1. +1
      2 August 2019 15: 44
      Well, there is a reference to the Hague Convention, which is explained about that. The point is not to cause unnecessary suffering, even if the injury is fatal.

      Humanism in the war, he is so humanistic ...

      Hague Convention

      DECLARATION ON THE NON-USE OF EASILY DEPLOYABLE AND DIGITABLE BULLETS
      The Hague, July 29, 1899
          The undersigned, plenipotentiaries of the Powers participating in the International Peace Conference at The Hague, having received the proper credentials of their Governments, inspired by the sentiments expressed in the St. Petersburg Declaration of November 29, 1868, Declare: The Contracting Powers undertake not to use bullets that easily unfold or flattened in the human body, which include shell bullets, of which the hard shell does not cover the entire core or has cuts. This Declaration is only binding on the contracting Powers in the event of war between two or more of them. It ceases to be binding as soon as a Power that is not a party to this agreement joins one of the belligerents in a war between the contracting Powers. This Declaration will be ratified as soon as possible. Ratifications will be deposited in The Hague. A protocol will be drawn up on the acceptance of each ratified instrument for safekeeping, a copy of which, duly attested, will be communicated diplomatically to all the Contracting Powers. Powers which have not signed this Declaration are entitled to accede to it. To this end, they must inform the contracting Powers of their accession by means of a written notification addressed to the Netherlands Government, which will notify such to all other contracting Powers. Should one of the High Contracting Parties renounce this Declaration, such refusal would take effect only after the expiration of a year, after a written notification of this to the Netherlands Government, which will immediately notify all other contracting Powers. This waiver will be valid only in relation to the Power that made the declaration. In witness thereto, the plenipotentiaries have signed this Declaration and affixed their seals to it. Done at The Hague on the twenty-ninth July one thousand eight hundred and ninety-nine in a single copy, which shall be deposited in the archives of the Netherlands Government, and attested copies of which shall be communicated by diplomatic means to the Contracting Powers.


      DECLARATION ABOUT THE USE OF EXPLOSIVE AND INJECTION BULLETS (St. Petersburg, November 29 (December 11) 1868)

          At the suggestion of the Imperial Russian Cabinet, a military international commission was convened in St. Petersburg to discuss the possibility of prohibiting the use of a certain kind of shells during a war between civilized peoples, and, as determined by this commission, on the basis of a mutual agreement, the technical boundaries for which wars must stop before the demands of humanity, the undersigned are authorized by their governments to declare the following:
      Taking into account that the successes of civilization should have the consequence of reducing, if possible, the scourge of war. That the only legitimate aim that states should have during a war is to weaken the enemy’s military forces. That to achieve this goal it is enough to disable a small, if possible, the number of people. That the use of such a weapon, which, when inflicted by the enemy’s wound, without benefit, increases the suffering of people incapacitated, or makes their death inevitable, should be recognized as inappropriate to the mentioned goal. That the use of such weapons would be contrary to the laws of humanity. The Contracting Parties undertake, in the event of a war among themselves, to mutually abandon the use of shells, both weighing less than 400 grams, that have the property of explosives or are equipped with shock or combustible composition, both by the ground and naval forces. They undertake to invite all states whose authorized persons did not participate in the meetings of the military international commission former in St. Petersburg to adhere to this agreement. This Treaty is binding only on the Contracting Parties or parties that pester it subsequently, in the event of a war between two or more of them; it is optional with respect to the parties that have not signed the contract, or which did not subsequently proceed to it. Evenly, a treaty ceases to be obligatory when, during a war between two parties that have signed the treaty or entered into it, one of the belligerents joins a party that has not signed the treaty or has not started it. The Contracting and Proceeding Parties grant themselves the right to subsequently enter into a new agreement between themselves whenever, in order to support the principles and to agree between themselves the requirements of the war and the laws of humanity, any improvements will be made due to the science of arming the troops specific offer.


      I’m not sure that any of the words used above is not obscene in VO.
      1. +3
        2 August 2019 17: 23
        Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub
        The point is not to cause unnecessary suffering, even if the injury is fatal.

        Got it! fellow So, if a dude was stuffed with a dozen other "humane" bullets, then he will die without suffering with a smile on his face ?! And if you also give a glass of champagne in hand, then at the time you can squeeze a photo into a magazine for ladies! good
        1. +2
          2 August 2019 17: 57
          Yes. To shoot with a firing squad at a pillar with a bag on his head is humane, and to shoot a doom-dum bullet in the stomach or to pierce with a trihedral bayonet in the absence of antibiotic discovery is anti-human.

          Such a logic.

          I’m not sure that any of the words used above is not obscene in VO.
          1. +1
            3 August 2019 02: 37
            All these "conversations in the ranks" about "humanism, not humanism" of bullets are garbage, designed as a sauce in a third-rate eatery to "steal" the main dish-meat "not the first freshness"! Improvement of weapons (in particular, small arms) and ammunition occurred not because of considerations of "humanism", but in consequence of the tasks set by the military, to improve the convenience of killing, the effectiveness of murders and reduce the cost of these! Somehow recently I had to read: round bullets "easily" deflected when hitting a bone and did not "break" it ... It turns out that round bullets are "humane"? But the armies switched to rifled guns and "oblong" bullets ... These weapons fired "far away" and, therefore, more shots could be fired and more soldiers killed before the "moment" of bayonet fighting! But the "cylindrical-conical" bullets with the previous calibers "consumed" "too" a lot of lead ... the ammunition turned out to be "heavy" and included "not enough" bullets (you won't kill a lot!) We began to reduce the calibers ... it became possible to take more bullets, to kill more! I think that we can not continue further ... everything else can be interpreted in the same "spirit" ... (but not in the "spirit of humanism ...)!
            1. 0
              3 August 2019 18: 43
              From the Hague Convention of 1899.

              Humanism and philanthropy was not an empty phrase in the Russian Empire, which initiated the adoption of the provisions of the Hague Convention of 1899.

              Taking into account that the successes of civilization should have the consequence of reducing, if possible, the scourge of war. That the only legitimate aim that states should have during a war is to weaken the enemy’s military forces. That to achieve this goal it is enough to disable a small, if possible, the number of people. That the use of such a weapon, which, when inflicted by the enemy’s wound, without benefit, increases the suffering of people incapacitated, or makes their death inevitable, should be recognized as inappropriate to the mentioned goal. That the use of such weapons would be contrary to the laws of humanity.
    2. +1
      2 August 2019 20: 52
      Colleague, "boys of school age are engaged in humanism". (S. x / f "Day of the Radio"). laughing
  3. +4
    2 August 2019 16: 43
    Without visual videos, listening to a talking head is not interesting.
    1. +5
      2 August 2019 18: 03
      Listening is pretty boring. Watching is simply unbearable.

      Nothing infuriates so much on the Tube as talking heads trudging from the exhibition of themselves.

      I’m not sure that any of the words used above is not obscene in VO.
      1. +1
        2 August 2019 20: 49
        Buddy, talking heads divorced as on the first channel and everyone climb into the air (matyug).
        And in relation to swearing expressions, our colleague Moon-Andrey spoke very clearly:
        In Russian, all words are obscene. The meaning depends on the intonation and facial expression of the speaker.

        I read, looked and completely agree with our other colleague Sergey (ssergey1978):
        Dry, fresh, well-known information, without visual aid.


        To all of the above, there is nothing to add, except for a couple of unprintable words. (this is not a matyug). sad
  4. +1
    2 August 2019 19: 28
    Dry, fresh, well-known information, without visual aid.
  5. +1
    2 August 2019 23: 40
    "It was an article about Russian pilots during the First World War. From the page of the magazine, the unfamiliar face of a young officer with a small mustache twisted with an awl, with a white cockade on his cap pulled down to his ear looked at Alexei." Read, read, right for you "The Commissar insisted. Meresiev read it. It was told in an article about the Russian military pilot, Lieutenant Valerian Arkadyevich Karpovich. Flying over enemy positions, Lieutenant Karpovich was wounded in the leg by a German explosive bullet" dum-dum ". With a crushed leg he managed "pull over the front line and sit with his own. His foot was taken away, but the young officer did not want to leave the army. He invented a prosthesis of his own design. He did gymnastics for a long time, trained and thanks to this, by the end of the war he returned to the army. He served as an inspector. at the school of military pilots and even, as stated in the note, “sometimes risked taking off in the air in his airplane.” He was awarded the officer's “George” and a mustache he served in Russian military aviation until he died as a result of a catastrophe "- B. Polevoy" The Story of a Real Man "