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Poland finally decided to purchase F-35 from the USA

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The Polish Ministry of Defense announced that it was going to acquire the low-profile F-35 multi-role fighters to replace the Soviet MiG29. The deal may be part of the “package”, under which Warsaw will take on its territory the military from the United States.




Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak in an interview with the local television company TVP confirmed the long-running rumors that Poland is going to buy the party F-35А. Back in February, Blaszczak announced that Warsaw was interested in buying at least 32 subtle fighters. Estimated purchases are part of Poland’s efforts to replace the Soviet Su-22 and MiG-29 Soviet fighters.

25 April, according to PAP, during his visit to Warsaw, the United States Air Force Minister Heather Wilson said that in May a group of US Air Forces should go to Poland to demonstrate the capabilities of F-35 to representatives of the Polish Ministry of Defense.



Not only airplanes, but also American troops

The Polish defense minister also said that the Polish government intends to sign an agreement on the deployment of US forces in the country this year.

Poland is negotiating the deployment of the base in parallel with the purchase of fighters. Warsaw is ready to invest more than 2 billions of dollars in Fort Trump (this is the name it was given), which is consistent with the policy of the American president that European countries have to pay for their security.



Warsaw is actively arming

Both the purchase of F-35 and the construction of the base are part of a large program of re-equipment of the Polish Army. The Ministry of Defense of the country operates in accordance with the "Plan for the Technical Modernization of the Armed Forces in 2013-2022."

28 February 2019. Mariusz Blašack announced the signing of a new "Technical modernization plan for the armed forces for 2017-2026." Under this initiative, the country's budget is ready to spend on new weapon and equipment 185 billion zł (48,3 billion dollars) in the next seven years. Compared to the previous plan, expenditures increased by almost 25 percent: in it, the costs of modernization were estimated at 37 billions of dollars.

The special group has been allocated 16 defense programs. Priority was given to six: Harpia, Narew, Kruk, Cyber.mil.pl, Orka and Homar.

In the case of the F-35, it’s about the Harpia program. It was initiated as a project to replace the aging fleet of Soviet fighters. The initiative was to purchase 48-64 aircraft. Initially, there was a chance that Poland would be ready to purchase 4 ++ aircraft.

However, Warsaw immediately clearly outlined its priorities: it was interested in the unobtrusive fifth-generation fighters. Since the sale of F-22 outside the United States is banned, and Russian and Chinese aircraft a) are under development, and b) belong to a potential opponent, the winner was automatically determined - F-35.

The minimum cost of purchasing new aircraft is estimated at 20 billion zlotys ($ 5,27 billion): and this without the creation of infrastructure for maintenance and maintenance, the need to purchase weapons systems and simulators. However, Warsaw is ready to pay for its attempt to become a new European regional leader: in the new realities, the presence of a strong and modern army brings Poland to new positions.

Poland crowded Germany and France

Warsaw has chosen the path of maximum rapprochement with Washington in spite of the rest of its European partners. This is especially noticeable against the background of attempts by Germany and France to conduct their own, independent from the White House policy. Poland, on the contrary, shows that he and Washington are on the way. And thanks to this alliance, it is preparing to earn points and get preferences for securing a new status.

Buying an F-35 will immediately put Warsaw in a more advantageous position in relation to the Fifth Republic and Germany: neither one nor the other country has a new generation of aircraft, and in the coming years 15-20 will most likely fly on machines whose development has begun back in the last century. And the presence of a large military base will make Poland one of the most important partners of the United States in Europe, along with Germany, on whose territory all the main logistics hubs of the American army on the European front were traditionally located.
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  1. Homer_J_Simpson
    Homer_J_Simpson 1 May 2019 14: 05
    +4
    "Poland squeezes Germany and France

    Warsaw has chosen the path of maximum rapprochement with Washington in defiance of its other European partners. "
    Maximum rapprochement !? Not all Kama Sutra has been sorted out yet.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 1 May 2019 14: 09
      +1
      Well, after all, the 21st century is in the yard. We have come up with new positions.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 May 2019 15: 39
      +4
      Quote: Homer_J_Simpson
      Warsaw has chosen the path of maximum rapprochement with Washington in defiance of its other European partners. "

      The third time nobody will reanimate Poland ... I think that's enough. Their subcutaneous government said everything for their people, especially after the 91 year. Point.
  2. Lopatov
    Lopatov 1 May 2019 14: 09
    +9
    Well done 8)))
    Once upon a time I read on the BBC an interesting article about the difficult fate of the first batch of F-16s bought by the Poles. They were distilled under their own power and not one could fly. Settled on a chain of airfields from the USA to Poland in anticipation of repairs.
    There is an opportunity to jump again on this rake.
    I respect the optimists 8))))))))
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 1 May 2019 14: 20
      +2
      F-16, which is now praised amicably, at one time blamed amicably. The number of crashed in training flights, at the stages of development in different countries, amounted to hundreds.
      F-35 in comparison with F-16 is a miracle of reliability. laughing
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 May 2019 14: 29
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        F-35 in comparison with F-16 is a miracle of reliability.

        That is, the United States put in Israel an absolutely unreliable aircraft in the amount of almost 350 pieces? How did they ... deceive you 8))))
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 1 May 2019 14: 36
          +1
          F-16 almost immediately entered the battle in 1982 with Syrian aviation and consistently defeated third-generation aircraft with a dry score. Not a single F-16 was lost in the battle, and on the 4th day of the fighting, the Syrians stopped raising their aircraft in the air. So who cheated whom is a big question wink
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 May 2019 14: 43
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            F-16 almost immediately entered the battle

            Wow, how unpleasant. The Israelis also had to engage in battle in an unreliable machine ... Is this what the Allies do ?????
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 1 May 2019 14: 51
              +5
              Israel was the first to test the F-16 (and F-15) in aerial combat. With great success. Israel received a first-class modern aircraft.
              Why should we have in this connection claims with an ally? belay
              And F-16 after that became the most massive and successful fighter-bomber in the West.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 May 2019 15: 02
                +1
                Quote: voyaka uh
                With great success. Israel received a first-class modern aircraft.

                You can decide whether this is a "high-class" or "unreliable" aircraft, on which pilots fight in the hundreds during training flights.
                One of two, otherwise your opinion changes depending on the context.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 1 May 2019 15: 04
                  +2
                  Both that and another: on it fought in training flights, but effectively won in the real fights.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 1 May 2019 15: 06
                    +2
                    How can you "win effectively" on a crashed plane?
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 1 May 2019 15: 10
                      +5
                      Shovels. This is not the first time we have entered into discussions, and I already realized that it is impossible to argue with you. You always write the last final post, regardless of the topic. laughing drinks
                      Write it and break up, as usual, friends hi
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 May 2019 15: 23
                        +2
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        This is not the first time we have entered into discussions, and I already realized that it is impossible to argue with you

                        It's just that you are somehow arguing strangely. Here's how, for some reason, declared the F-16 wildly unreliable. Then the wunderwaffe ....

                        I remembered a concrete fact: the Americans simply threw the Poles
                        In order to win the "competition" between the French "Mirage" and the British-Swedish "Grippen", the Americans promised a lot to the Poles.

                        In real life, the Poles received junk, which they had to repair at their own expense almost immediately after the purchase, moreover, the Americans did not fulfill their promises on investments that came in the package with the purchase of fighters even by a quarter. And this quarter, for the most part, went to the destruction of a possible competitor — the privatized enterprises of the aviation industry bought it and reduced it to a screwdriver assembly.
                      2. Kasym
                        Kasym 1 May 2019 16: 02
                        +8
                        Alexey, the Ministry of Defense and the Polish General Staff, after analyzing the operation of the F-16, decided that "their combat capabilities are insufficient." There is no point in upgrading, since the costs will exceed the cost of new machines.
                        But here even the point is different. As a subsidized country (13 billion euros per year) can afford to throw out 3,5 billion dollars. (F-16 program) and “covet” for a more expensive car? Will Germany and France like it - Poland hangs on their necks ?!
                        And what’s more interesting. Taking the F-16, they did not write off the MiG-29. There was even a program to modernize 16 of them until 2014. In my opinion, if the MiG was so bad compared to the F-16, then they would have written it off. Moreover, the contract was for 96 cars, and they only raked out half of the F-16s. This tells me that the MiG is certainly no worse than the F-16. hi
                        Happy Holidays! drinks
                      3. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 1 May 2019 16: 09
                        +1
                        "if the MiG was so bad compared to the F-16" ////
                        ----
                        Compared with the first "Blocks" F-16 - not worse. Maybe better. In close combat, the MiG-29 is generally very good. And you - a happy holiday! drinks
                      4. Kasym
                        Kasym 1 May 2019 16: 30
                        +5
                        It’s not even a matter of modernizing the F-16.
                        I saw the work of single-engine MiG-21 and MiG-23 at the training ground. They carry very little. And if they load, then no maneuverability. Here at least do some modernization, but one engine ... Look at the F-35 towing system. It does not shine, although the engine is the most advanced with good traction. More or less with fuel at 50%. And if with normal or maximum load, then generally the seams. Maybe that's why the bomb bombs are so small - it makes no sense to do anymore.
                        I also saw the MiG-29. I am sure that he still has few equal in close combat. And how the Germans praised him - at the training ground where I served, they trained pilots for all the allies of the USSR - so I saw all the "inspectors" from these countries.
              2. Dart
                Dart 1 May 2019 20: 24
                0
                You personally do not get hurt by such ... "allies"? I'll try to guess, you grew up in the USSR and only at a conscious age naturalized in the second .. home. What are the principles and understanding that "allies" are the most natural enemies of your first homeland, do you have?
                There are a lot of people like you ... speak out, the Internet will tolerate and will not give out. Or is all this an empty sound?
        2. Zeraf
          Zeraf 1 May 2019 15: 16
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: voyaka uh
          F-35 in comparison with F-16 is a miracle of reliability.

          That is, the United States put in Israel an absolutely unreliable aircraft in the amount of almost 350 pieces? How did they ... deceive you 8))))

          and in Russia there was at least one model jet serial aircraft which in the first year after entering the service did not break, answer a simple question? For comparison, with bad f16 ... lol
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 May 2019 15: 30
            +7
            Quote: Zeraf
            but in Russia

            And where does Russia? F-16 American aircraft.

            Quote: Zeraf
            the first year after joining the service

            Let me remind you that in 2003, when the first of the purchased F-16s tried to fly to Poland, it was not "the first year"twenty-fourth year after joining the service "8))))))))))

            Quote: Zeraf
            For comparison, with bad f16 ...

            In fact, a lord from Israel called him a bad and unreliable aircraft.
            I pointed out that the old trash sold to Poland "from the availability" was in fact not capable of fighting. Which required additional repair costs from the Poles.
        3. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 1 May 2019 18: 08
          -2
          Quote: Spade
          That is, the United States put in Israel an absolutely unreliable aircraft in the amount of almost 350 pieces? How did they ... deceive you 8))))

          And are you sure that this is possible?
          Learning is NEVER LATE!
          Read what you have done with this plane in Israel.
          1 Soufa features Elop's wide-angle head-mounted display and 120 x 4-inch high-resolution color multifunction displays (4ppi) supplied Astronautics CA from Petah Tikva, Israel.
          2 The navigation system includes a combined ring laser gyro-inertial navigation system, a global positioning system (RLGINS / GPS) and a digital terrain system. Raphael developed algorithms for a digital terrain system.
          3 Elbit supplied the central computer of the aircraft, a signal processing unit for displays and a store management system.
          4 RADA Electronics Industries in Netanya, Israel, and Smiths Aerospace, The United States has developed an aircraft data collection system with a modern digital data server and data recording system. The Israeli military industry supplies most of the pylons and arms racks, as well as external fuel tanks.
          5 Air-to-air missiles are short-range Python-4 and Python-5 missiles, as well as short-range, short-range Derby launch vehicles that supplied by Rafael. F16I equipped with an air-to-air missile Raphael Python 5.
          More than 30 Israeli companies assisted in the construction of the platform, with the “I” in the model name means “Israel”. “Infrastructure is the infrastructure of the American F-16 aircraft, but the systems are from Israel. From the helmet to the wings - all this is done in Israel. "
          If you want more information for YOU links:
          http://www.iaf.org.il/9073-50947-EN/IAF.aspx
          https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f-16i/
          https://israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16/F-16.html
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 May 2019 18: 17
            +2
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            Read what you have done with this plane in Israel.

            Well .... As they took it, I immediately had to redo it. N-yes ... Here you have allies.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 1 May 2019 18: 30
              -6
              Quote: Spade
              As they took it, I immediately had to redo it.

              Quote: Vitaly Gusin
              How did they ... deceive you 8))))

              You are right.
              Israel does not remain dependent even on friends since there were cases that in difficult times due to political nuances, the blockade of Israel was left without weapons and a repair base. Israel is able today REMEMBER ALL THIS FOR YOURSELF that would not depend on the whims of someone.
              Contracts are concluded only on this condition.
              YOUR scumbag on this serious website is not appropriate.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 May 2019 19: 38
                +2
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                Israel does not remain addicted even to friends

                8)))))
                Okay, I won't say anything about "friends". Which, for example, once "amicably" destroyed the Israeli aviation industry.
                Well, what kind of independence can we talk about if the Americans can control Israel’s military exports? Throw the tales to tell ...
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 1 May 2019 19: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  Once upon a time, the Israeli aviation industry was destroyed in a friendly way.

                  Not the aviation industry, but the LAVI plane, but they paid for it. And if about the aviation industry, then this is "TAASIA AVIRIT" IAI Which is in perfect order and flourishing
                  "Dec 2018 Germany will extend the lease of IAI Heron drones until 2020
                  July 2018 Two PASI Searchers Mk III Class II combat drones delivered to the Spanish Army
                  June 2018 Germany approves Heron TP deal
                  June 2018 IAI develops a hybrid robotic system
                  Feb 2018 Israeli Air Force expand Heron TP fleet - On defense-aerospace.com
                  January 2018 Germany to continue Heron flights to Mali - Popular on defenseWeb
                  March 2017 Ten years of "Shoval" (Heron 1) - featured on IAF website
                  March 2017 The new RSAF Heron 1 drone is now ready for battle - featured in the Straits Times
                  IAI has modernized thousands of aircraft, including the western and eastern platforms. The upgraded aircraft include: F-16, F-15, F-5, T-38, F-4, A-4, C-130, MiG-21, MiG-29, Su-22 and Su-27. "
                  http://www.iai.co.il/2013/17866-en/Business_Areas_Military_Aircraft_Upgrades.aspx
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 1 May 2019 20: 15
                    +2
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    Not the aviation industry, but the LAVI plane

                    It was the last Israeli plane.
                    If someone "in a friendly way" plows me to amputate his leg, I would probably at least consider it a bad joke ...
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 1 May 2019 20: 46
                      -4
                      Quote: Spade
                      will amputate his leg,

                      It's not about leg amputation, but about the nightingale droppings virus. YOU about modern technologists about the development of modern industry, and you cling to the rotten leg of the neck. Don't go far on it!
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    4. WIKI
      WIKI 1 May 2019 14: 28
      0
      Why fly from the USA when Italy is closer.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 May 2019 14: 36
        +2
        Quote: Victor Biryukov
        Why fly from the USA when Italy is closer.

        ?
        Because they bought airplanes from the USA. And the first two of those purchased were in Iceland, waiting for repairs
        In addition, the Americans notably ... deceived the Poles on the subject of "accompanying agreements."
  3. knn54
    knn54 1 May 2019 14: 16
    +3
    That "rare case" when the interests of masters and servants coincide ...
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  5. anjey
    anjey 1 May 2019 14: 19
    -1
    The Ministry of Defense of Poland announced that it was going to acquire stealth multi-functional fighter F-35
    Little is left, Ukraine is left, in the long run, to make an application for a miraculous letak and American boys will become the best friends of Khokhlov laughing .
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 May 2019 14: 22
    +1
    Yes, as Poland was the litter of the United States, it remained! Let them buy 200 f35 - their economy will collapse quicker, and then the Poles will go on their own to guest workers with the Chinese! Interestingly, will they return the billions of euros swelled into this supposedly country? Or, naively hope that the State Department will put pressure on the European Union, and everyone will forgive the apple empire? ??
  7. Karabas
    Karabas 1 May 2019 14: 31
    -1
    Poles will have to sit down for doshiraki for the sake of collecting 5 lard laughing
    And it’s not greedy that it’s greedy, it will be necessary to rub the sewer pipes to a mirror shine.
  8. t-4
    t-4 1 May 2019 14: 33
    +7
    What do the Poles fuss about? Why do they need so many weapons? What are you going to go to Moscow with an attack?
    There is an old proverb - "How many wolves do not feed, but the bear argument more".
  9. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 1 May 2019 14: 36
    +4
    Warsaw is actively arming itself. Weapons will be actively procured in the United States. Warsaw has a negative balance in relations with the European Union (payments to the European budget - subsidies from the European budget). At whose expense is the banquet? It turns out due to Germany, France, and other donor countries.
    Are donor countries willing to pay for such an expensive pleasure? I don’t think so.
    But, Warsaw suddenly demanded compensation from Berlin. From the very Berlin, which has been subsidizing Warsaw for decades. What is Warsaw counting on?
    To Washington, of course. Another argument is that Washington put pressure on Berlin, so that the latter pays. This is how the Arctic fox creeps up to the current European Union. Either the European Union will expel the jackals from its ranks, or this very Arctic fox eats it.
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 1 May 2019 15: 09
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
      Warsaw has a negative balance in relations with the European Union

      Starting from the 21st year, subsidies will either decrease significantly or cease altogether. The same is true for the Baltic states. Maybe that's why the Estonians were the first to stir.
      Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
      At whose expense is the banquet? It turns out due to Germany, France, and other donor countries.

      Americans with enormous pleasure will give a bonded loan to Poland. Printing presses need to be loaded somehow.
      Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
      This is how the Arctic fox creeps up to the current European Union. Either the European Union will expel the jackals from its ranks, or this very Arctic fox eats it.

      In the next decade, everything will be decided: either the Arctic fox, or still exist.
  10. askort154
    askort154 1 May 2019 14: 39
    +3
    And the presence of a large military base will make Poland one of the most important US partners in Europe along with Germany ...

    The centuries-old, secret dream of Polish Poles. They sleep and see themselves above all in Europe. And the Anglo-Saxons are trolling the German-French. Be good, leaders in Europe will make the Poles. And F-35 they have not only an expensive invisible surprise, but also a political scepter. yes
    1. Narcolog
      Narcolog 1 May 2019 14: 49
      +3
      This is the same as the "housewife" sitting on her husband's neck, will imagine herself as the head of the family.
  11. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 1 May 2019 14: 45
    +5
    Although I am not very smart about finance. I believe that the Poles will buy these airplanes precisely for the pennies that the owners will lend them. (circulation of money in nature). Well, Soviet MiGs and Su will be fused into benderlogy. But this will not save Banderlogstan. There is already no one to fly them. And who wants - he does not know how, only a car "Zaporozhets".
  12. Narcolog
    Narcolog 1 May 2019 14: 47
    +1
    I wonder - at whose expense will this banquet be? I do not think that Poland and the khozdep will be able to spin the EU for a certain significant amount for this "miracle of technology." The realities are not the same today.
  13. NF68
    NF68 1 May 2019 14: 49
    +1
    Expensive is a pleasure. After all, these F-35 still have to be maintained, and Poland is not such a rich country.
  14. Skunks
    Skunks 1 May 2019 14: 52
    -2
    F-35, you won’t pull the psheks ..... We will beat you, so for training, for our scolded graves of soldiers, and then don’t be offended! soldier
    1. Zeraf
      Zeraf 1 May 2019 15: 18
      0
      Quote: Skuns
      F-35, you won’t pull the psheks ..... We will beat you, so for training, for our scolded graves of soldiers, and then don’t be offended! soldier

      right from your sofa with earflaps to knock? NATO member countries? angry
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 May 2019 15: 30
        +2
        "Penguin" in a combat-ready state, the pleasure is not cheap! And if you still try to fly them, but at least some infrastructure, the most necessary to build !!! Just an expensive fantasy, they will just be gathering dust and caponiers like some others !!! if they buy them at all ???
        So sho dream to beat this dog, empty dreams. It’s not flying ... in some places, in a particularly fenced place, in some places. However, we will look, and suddenly!
      2. Skunks
        Skunks 1 May 2019 15: 33
        -3
        Taki yes ...)))
        Quote: Zeraf
        right from your sofa with earflaps to knock?

        Troll I feed you a little .. tongue Your NATO block is already nobody ..
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 1 May 2019 15: 55
          +2
          Yes, wake up you, uncle! I am also a patriot! But, is it realistic to look at things weakly ?!
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 1 May 2019 19: 31
          +2
          NATO scale, it’s all the same minke whales and while they are kolobrodat, no one will rest.
      3. Phil77
        Phil77 1 May 2019 15: 53
        +1
        But he can! I have a political officer in part of which was * armor-piercing *.
  15. igorra
    igorra 1 May 2019 14: 54
    +1
    I think the European Union will revise measures of gratuitous support to the Poles in the direction of reduction and significantly. There are dibs for airplanes, which means they will also find for their domestic needs.
  16. evgen1221
    evgen1221 1 May 2019 15: 00
    0
    And the money apparently reparations from Germany will take.)))
  17. Archon
    Archon 1 May 2019 15: 18
    +2
    In terms of GDP, Germany is at 4, and Poland is at 24. Russia on 11.
    by PPP GDP, Germany is at 5, and Poland is at 23. Russia on 6.
    From these numbers you can see quite a lot, reasons and goals.
  18. Aliken
    Aliken 1 May 2019 15: 21
    +1
    Who would doubt Poland will soon make English the official language.
    1. Skunks
      Skunks 1 May 2019 15: 41
      +1
      Quote: Aliken
      Who would doubt Poland will soon make English the official language.

      Let what they want to do ..And Germany needs to give their territory ..SSSR you got it all!
      And to pay compensation for the genocide of Jews on the territory of Poland. And even after the 45th, you managed to organize Jewish pogroms there. Israel for some reason keeps silent about this, and there are archives Even tanks had to be introduced and pzeks reassured. Was it like that? hi
      Here is the mystery of the story ..
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 1 May 2019 20: 32
        0
        Citizen! Think, and then write, okay? As a patriot to a patriot.
  19. Govorun
    Govorun 1 May 2019 15: 34
    -4
    Poland finally decided to purchase F-35 from the USA
    You might think that Poland was given something to decide ... the servant does not decide, she agrees to everything.
    1. Govorun
      Govorun 2 May 2019 14: 30
      0
      SERVANT MINUSES)))) Now it is clear how many "Poles" are on this site)))
  20. Izotovp
    Izotovp 1 May 2019 15: 46
    +3
    Poland all the time tries on the role of a leading European power without any technological or intellectual basis. In fact, an agricultural trade country with exorbitant ambitions. And it always has been. At all times.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 1 May 2019 16: 03
      -1
      That’s absolutely really appreciated them * power *! My applause! hi
  21. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 May 2019 19: 19
    +3
    The purchase of the F-35 will immediately put Warsaw in a better position in relation to the Fifth Republic and the Federal Republic of Germany: neither one nor the other country has a new generation of aircraft

    And here my grandmother said in two. While Poland erases its tongue on the ass of cowboys, the French and the Germans are looking for ways to reduce dependence on the overseas host. If they succeed, then they will be in a better position. Well, the losses of the Poles from the termination of subsidies from the EU can also add to their problems. As well as expensive "conditionally combat-ready" toys.
  22. basal
    basal 1 May 2019 19: 38
    +2
    It's funny
    The Germans are smart and practical, the Poles are simply honorable.
    The Germans have real money, but why do they need a "pig in a poke"? Thought and abandoned the F-35. They have their own equipment, but they are not going to fight. In 10-20 years, maybe the F-35 will be appreciated if it shows itself.
    The Poles have no money, but they are ready to buy a "bag of cats" for German money. Oh well good
  23. hump
    hump 1 May 2019 20: 46
    +3
    Poland walks on money from the EU and spends it on the USA. She did not have long to walk. Money will run out
  24. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 1 May 2019 20: 52
    0
    Poland::
    "I am ready not only to" bend down "and let the amers" add "to myself, I am also ready to buy" product No. 2 "at my own expense, 32 pieces!"
  25. APASUS
    APASUS 1 May 2019 22: 05
    +2
    The European program of financing the Polish economy is coming to an end. And here are such expenses, can the Poles really remember, who else did not ask for money for the occupation?
    1. Town Hall
      Town Hall 1 May 2019 22: 16
      -3
      Poland’s GDP is about $ 600 billion. Like Sweden, for example. How much does the Russian Federation have? 1200 or 1300 billion? They can easily afford such expenses.
  26. boriz
    boriz 1 May 2019 22: 49
    +1
    Will apples be paid?
  27. Misha_an26
    Misha_an26 2 May 2019 12: 58
    +1
    Polish Minister of Defense Mariusz Blaszczak. I. Announce thanks! Serving Russia!
  28. Igor Dvornikov
    Igor Dvornikov 3 May 2019 09: 43
    +1
    We must promise not to touch them and take the freed money.
  29. Alexex
    Alexex 3 May 2019 12: 07
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    Yes!!! Closer to Kaliningrad ... then "Krasukha" will be accused !!