Victory of Suvorov on the Adda River

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220 years ago, 26 — 28 on April 1799, the Russian forces, commanded by A.V. Suvorov, utterly defeated the French army under the command of J.V. Moreau. The Russians took Milan. Thus, almost all of Northern Italy was liberated from the French.

The situation before the battle


In 1798, the government of Emperor Paul I decided to oppose France, joining the ranks of the Second Anti-French Coalition. The Black Sea squadron under the command of F. F. Ushakov was sent to the Mediterranean to help the allies: Turkey and Britain.



In the land theater, the Allies planned to launch a large-scale offensive in 1799 — in the area from Holland to Italy. Russian troops together with the allies were to operate in Holland, Switzerland and Italy. In Italy, the allied Russian-Austrian army was to be headed by Alexander Suvorov. The Austrian military-political leadership formally agreed with the independence of the Russian commander, but tried to impose his strategic plan on him, which was based on the defense of the borders of Austria. Suvorov also planned to act in his own style, quickly and decisively. To carry out a decisive offensive in Northern Italy, to liberate Lombardy and Piedmont from the French. To create in Italy a strategic base for striking France through Lyon to Paris.

3 (14) April 1799, the year Suvorov arrived at the camp of the allied forces in the city of Verona. He published a manifesto in which he announced the restoration of the old order in Italy. When Rosenberg's corps approached, having more than 48 thousand soldiers (12 thousand Russian and 36,5 thousand Austrians), Suvorov decided to launch an offensive, regardless of the instructions of the gofkryssrat. 8 (19) April commander launched an offensive by the main forces from Valeggio on Addu. For the blockade of the fortresses of Mantua and Peschiera, the 15-thousandth corps of the Austrian General Kray was left.

French forces. Allied offensive


The French army, commanded by Scherer, after an unsuccessful offensive and defeat by the Austrians at Magnano, withdrew its main forces to defend the west bank of the Adda River. However, two divisions (about 16 thousand people) were delayed, so the crossing at the front of about 100 km was defended by 28 thousand French soldiers. The French had a strong natural position: the Adda River was quite deep, it was impossible to ford it. The right bank was higher than the left, that is convenient for shooters. In the upper part of the river, from Lake Como to Cassano, the banks were high, steep; Below Cassano - the coast became low, swampy, the river itself disintegrated into sleeves, which made it difficult to cross. The bridges at Cassano, Lecco and other crossings were well protected by the French. When the Russians approached, the French blew up the bridges.

Suvorov, by attacking Brescia, Bergamo and Lecco, secured its right flank by contacting the Austrian forces in Tyrol and trying to bypass the enemy army from its left wing, and then continue to move south-west, crowding the enemy towards the Po River. In the forefront was Bagration (3 thousand people) and the Austrian division of Ott. For the avant-garde followed the main forces of the Austrians under the authority of Melas. The Hohenzollern Division (6,5 thousand people) occupied the left flank and moved through Pozzola to Cremona. She was supposed to provide the left flank of the army against a possible enemy flank attack. 10 (21) April Allies took the fortress of Brescia, 13 (24) April - Bergamo. 14 (25) April Allied forces reached the Adda River.

At the same time, Suvorov was displeased with the allies. The Russian commander acted quickly and decisively, he did not tolerate delays. The troops performed at night, made frequent short halts. For 14 hours the army had to go to the 30 version. True, it was not always possible to withstand such a pace of movement, sometimes the roads were too complicated. The Austrians are not accustomed to this and began to complain about the big transitions and the speed of the marches. This irritated Alexander Vasilyevich. So, he arranged for the Austrian commander Melas himself to be dragged out, who gave the troops a good rest after a long march in the rain, which disrupted the army’s schedule. Suvorov wrote to Melas: “Women, beauties and sloths chase after good weather ... who is in bad health, he should be left behind ... In military actions, he should be quickly figured out - and immediately executed, so that the enemy would not have time to recover himself ... Eye, speed, onslaught ... "Next, Suvorov tried not to mix Russian with Austrian parts. An exception was made only for the Cossacks, who conducted reconnaissance and security ahead of the Austrian columns.

Having reached the Adde river, the Russian commander-in-chief decided to break through the enemy defenses on a broad front, striking at the Lecco-Cassano sector. Suvorov decided to deliver the main attack on the section Brivio (Brevio) - Trezzo, auxiliary - in Lecco. The overall task: to force the river and take Milan. In the event of a delay in the crossing at the designated areas, it was decided to force the river at Cassano, followed by an offensive in the Milan direction. The left-wing division of the Hohenzollern was given the task of forcing Addu from Lodi and acting in the direction of Pavia.

The main forces of Suvorov’s army, which included Rosenberg’s Russian corps and Austrian divisions of Vukasovich, Ott and Zopf (totaling about 27 thousand people), were to force a water barrier on the Brivio, Trezzo sector and then develop an offensive on Milan. The detachment of Bagration (3 thousand people) acted on the auxiliary direction near the city of Lecco. The divisions of Keith and Fröhlich (13 thousand people) remained in the reserve of the allied army in the area of ​​Trevilio, which were oriented toward the crossing at Cassano.



Battle of the Adda River


The first to go on the attack was 15 (26) on April 1799, Bagration's unit at Lecco. This strike was supposed to mislead the enemy, to divert them from the direction of the main strike. The city of Lecco, located on the left (east) shore, defended the 5-thousandth of the French garrison of General Soye with 6 guns. In this case, the French occupied the dominant heights. As a result, the French, having a strong position and advantage in strength, fought fiercely. The fight lasted 12 hours. First, the miracle bogatyrs of Bagration with a powerful attack knocked the French out of the city. The French retreated to the northern outskirts of Lecco. But they quickly came to their senses, and finding more of them, they went to the counterattack. By evening, the enemy began to take up. Bagration requested reinforcements. Three battalions under the command of Miloradovich and Povalo-Shveikovsky helped Bagration's group turn the tide and go on the offensive again. By 20 hours, Russian soldiers captured Lecco, throwing the enemy far to the north. The French soldiers retreated beyond the Addu and blew up the remaining crossings. The French lost about 1 thousand people in this hot fight, our total losses are 365 people.

On the same day, the French changed their commander - Scherer was replaced by General Jean Victor Moreau. He was considered one of the best generals of France. The new commander made a regrouping of forces. He planned to assemble the main forces in the Trezzo and Cassano area. That is, he generally correctly identified the area where the allies dealt the main blow. This allowed the French to strengthen the defense.

However, Bagration’s demonstrative strike was useful. The division of Seryurye, which moved from Lecco to Trezzo, reached the place, and then it was turned back. Only one battalion was left at Trezzo. In this case, the French believed that forcing the river in this place for the whole army is impossible. The east bank here was steep, which made the descent of the pontoons and troops to the river extremely difficult. Therefore, the French did not set up even guard posts here. At the same time in this place the width of the river was smaller and the west bank was convenient for disembarking. Therefore, Suvorov ordered to direct the crossing in the Trezzo area.

On the night of 15 on 16 on April, Ott's pontooners began to build a bridge. By the morning of April 16 it was erected. The first to cross the river was Ott’s avant-garde, followed by the Cossack regiments of Denisov, Molchanov and Grekov, then the main forces of the Ott division. After that, the river crossed part of the division of Zopf. As a result, the appearance of Austrians and Russian Cossacks in Trezzo came as a complete surprise to the enemy. Only the slowness and caution of the Austrians saved the French battalion in Trezzo from immediate destruction. The French managed to prepare for the defense of the settlement. However, the Cossacks bypassed Trezzo from the north, and their attack broke the resistance of the enemy. The French fled to Pozzo. Thus, thanks to the successful crossing of the Adda y Trezzo, the defense of the French army was hacked.

The French command ordered the division of Grenier to take up defense in the Vaprio-Pozzo sector with the front to the north and meet the Austrians advancing from Trezzo. Ott's division failed to break the resistance of the enemy and, under pressure from the French, rolled back to Trezzo. Austrian troops showed their weakness in the actions on the basis of columns and loose order. The battle with Vaprio continued. The Austrians led both divisions into battle - Ott and Zopf. However, the French continued to attack. Only the strike of the Russian Cossack regiments from the Pozzo region under the general command of Denisov broke the resistance of the enemy. The French began to retreat. After that, the Cossacks of Denisov attacked the cavalry-chasseurs regiment of the French who approached from Gorgonzola and broke it. Moreau ordered the Grenier division to retreat to the Cassano-Inzego line.

On the same day, Alexander Suvorov threw his reserve into battle - the division of Fröhlich and Keith (under the general command of Melas). They were to conduct an offensive from Trevilio on Cassano, force the river at Cassano, then go to Gorgonzola. This led to the dispersal of the French forces. Also flank attack allowed to surround and destroy the main forces of the French army. However, these were Austrian divisions, not Russian, they did not know how to fight in Suvorov style. For seven hours, the Austrians fought a single French semi-brigade (2 thousand soldiers) and could not defeat it. The French successfully defended Cassano from the troops of Melas. Suvorov had to personally arrive at this section of the front. In the meantime, the French garrison of Cassano was reinforced by the Arno brigade from the Victor division. Suvorov made a regrouping of troops, put out a 30-gun battery and launched a new offensive. After that, the French trembled and retreated to the right bank of the Adda, failing to destroy the bridge. At about 18 hours, the Austrians occupied Cassano.

Seeing that the defense was broken, Moreau ordered the army to retreat to Milan. An attempt by the French commander to organize resistance at Trezzo and Cassana failed. Thus, the Russian-Austrian troops broke the resistance of the French army at the turn of the Adda, forcing the river at the front in 55 km. However, it was not possible to surround the main forces of the Austrians due to the weak tactical training of the Austrian troops. Burnt Austrians almost did not pursue the enemy. The French were persecuted only by the Cossacks. 17 (28) April allies crushed the resistance of the last hotbeds of resistance of the enemy. Troops of Vukasovich and Rosenberg defeated parts of the Seryurie division. The French general lost contact with Moreau and did not know the general state of affairs, spent the night. As a result, was captured. Soon Suvorov let him go on parole.


Battle on the Adda River 16 (27) April 1799 Engraving by N. Sciavonetti by Singleton

Results


The French army was defeated and fled. The French lost killed and wounded 2,5 thousand people, prisoners - 5 thousand, 27 guns. Our losses - 2 thousand dead and wounded.

The battle stands out because the crossing of the river on such a wide front was a novelty in the art of war of the time. The front of the enemy was broken by a blow of concentrated forces on the main line during active attacks from the flanks, which disoriented the enemy. In this case, Suvorov was able to achieve victory mainly using Austrian troops.

The road to Milan was free. The city was supposed to defend the Seryurye division, but it was already broken. Therefore, in the evening of April 17 (28), the Cossacks entered Milan. 18 (29) April, the Russian commander-in-chief Alexander Suvorov arrived in the city. The Italians greeted him with great enthusiasm as a savior and savior. Following Milan, the Allies occupied the cities of Tortona, Marengo and Turin. Suvorov’s strategy of crushing the main forces of the enemy army in the field fully justified itself. In a short time, all of Northern Italy was liberated from the French. The remnants of the French army were blocked in Mantua, Alexandria, the strongholds of Tortona and Turin. The main forces of the French retreated to Genoa.

However, Suvorov’s success alarmed Vienna. On the one hand, the Austrian high command was quite victories for the Russian commander. On the other hand, the Austrians feared the independence and determination of Alexander Suvorov. They wished the Russian commander to stop, take up the defense of Northern Italy and restore Austrian rule there. Therefore, the Austrian troops were ordered to disarm the Italians, to crush the national liberation movement. Suvorov was against it. Therefore, the Austrians decided that Suvorov should be removed from Italy, since his presence there is dangerous.


Suvorov's entry into Milan. Artist A. Charlemagne, ca. Xnumx
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  1. +4
    April 26 2019 04: 08
    What a pace Alexander Vasilievich maintained!
    1. +5
      April 26 2019 05: 23
      30 miles per night ... what to move in the dark on mountain roads, you know those are expensive.
      Speed ​​and onslaught ... The Suvorov rule of war is still relevant.
      How lucky Russia was at that time that it turned out to be such a talented commander.
    2. +1
      April 28 2019 00: 36
      and don’t say speed !!! wink GREAT ALEXANDER WAS- GREAT !!!!!
  2. +4
    April 26 2019 05: 37
    The genius of military thought
    1. 0
      April 26 2019 13: 01
      Both commanders (Suvorov and Moro) found their eternal shelter in one city, St. Petersburg, even on one street, only at different ends ..
  3. +5
    April 26 2019 06: 39
    Serryurier is an old royal army officer, Napoleon in 1804 will make him Marshal for his successes in the Italian company of Bonaparte. Soye and Grenier also distinguished themselves under the leadership of the Corsican, Moreau generally put talent equal to Bonaparte.
    All paid to Alexander Vasilievich. For me, the answer to the question of who would have hit someone, had Napoleon been in Italy, and not in Egypt, is obvious.
    1. 0
      April 26 2019 19: 41
      Not at all a fact. Napoleon was very, very good and placed the attack in columns at the forefront. If they met then the result is not at all obvious.
      1. +1
        April 27 2019 07: 23
        Yes, okay ... You just said that progressive Napoleon attacked with columns, and Suvorov retrograde is a supporter of linear tactics !?
        Read Chandler. Not enough Chandler - read Napoleon himself. In remarks on the work of Zhominyi, he writes that the Russians are attacking with a three-shift system, but he himself prefers a two-shift system. A column in 2 lines? Attack by the column - a fiction. Exit to a position in the column, then deploy in a line or square under cover of artillery fire or marksmen (rangers). The classics of the genre are the detailed actions of the Moran division under Ian precisely in this scenario. Only Western historians do not write that the actions of the Moran are almost an exact tracing-paper from the actions of Suvorov under Fokshany.
        Leave the stories about the Great French Revolution, which gave the world a progressive "column", to the French themselves. They began to master their new tactics only in 1792 at Valmy. Suvorov did all this in 1789.
        1. -1
          April 27 2019 12: 41
          You assign your thoughts to your opponent and then argue with them and you seem very smart. You're wrong. I never wrote that Suvorov was a retrograde and a supporter of linear tactics. These are your thoughts. Suvorov used the tactics that were beneficial in this case. And linear tactics were not so bad at a time when there were no machine guns.
      2. +1
        April 27 2019 12: 17
        Quote: Ken71
        Napoleon was very, very good and placed the attack in columns at the forefront.

        it's hard to say put the generals against each other. The quick young man and the old man never met.
        There were many invincibles in the world (Waterloo does not count), and many never met.
        Gunner against bayonets ..
        the talent of the Corsican and the genius of Suvorov - they gave birth to many innovations and battles.
        1. 0
          April 27 2019 13: 11
          Suvorov, in my opinion, paid more attention to the impulse than to the planning of the battle. With equal strength, Napoleon would outplay. IMHO of course
          1. 0
            April 28 2019 05: 14
            Quote: Ken71
            With equal strength, Napoleon would outplay.

            Who knows, how to know ... Alexander Vasilyevich was beating different commanders, and it is not a fact that his commitment to breakthrough, onslaught and non-standard solutions would lead him to defeat in a face-to-face meeting with Napoleon. So to adhere to the opinion that Suvorov only won victories among weak opponents (in terms of strategy, tactics, weapons and strength, (relative to Napoleon’s identity) is probably a mistake.
            PS Equal conditions can only be modeled on paper and in computer shooters. wassat
            1. -1
              April 28 2019 12: 03
              Yes, it would be interesting. By the way, I’m wondering what battle the non-Turks Suvorov won without a serious numerical advantage. However, the good God loves large battalions
              1. 0
                April 29 2019 21: 57
                Quote: Ken71
                what a battle the non-Turks Suvorov won without a serious numerical advantage.

                Offhand - the battle of Novi. Forces of the parties: defenders -38 thousand
                upcoming - 44 thousand. For reference:
                The goal of the main type of defense, positional, is to repulse the attack of a superior enemy, inflict significant losses on it, hold on to important areas of the terrain, and thereby create favorable conditions for the transition to the offensive. Numerous studies and calculations using computers show that the combat capabilities of modern troops in defense can reliably repel an attack of 2, and sometimes (in favorable conditions) and 3 times superior enemy by firmly holding defensive lines (positions) held, counterattacks and counterattacks when it is wedged in defense.

                The US Army Field Charter recommends creating at least 6-fold superiority over defenders in forces and means to achieve the goal of an offensive in the direction of the main attack. To repulse the offensive under such conditions, it is necessary to achieve such a situation that the specified ratio in the dynamics of defense is reduced and does not exceed 2-3: 1 in favor of the attacker and so that as a result he cannot continue the attack.

                The battle of Novi can be considered as a battle with a larger enemy (under equal conditions), because the aspect ratio is only 1,15 in favor of the advancing, and the advantage to the French was a very favorable defense position. Something like this turns out.
                PS I’m lost in guessing - why are you being minus ... For other views on military operations of the 18th century?
                1. 0
                  April 29 2019 22: 31
                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  Offhand - the battle of Novi.


                  Italian sources give 66.000 soldiers at Suvorov against 34.000 at the French
                  1. 0
                    April 30 2019 05: 36
                    Quote: Town Hall
                    Italian sources give 66.000 soldiers at Suvorov against 34.000 at the French

                    Well, let them "say" wassat In different ways, less than twice the superiority of the attackers. According to the theory of combined arms combat (it's like on paper) - Suvorov couldn’t win in any way due to the small number of attackers belay But probably talent (in any field, not only in the military) exists for that purpose to break all stereotypes and theories.
                    1. 0
                      April 30 2019 09: 16
                      Quote: Serg Koma
                      According to the theory of combined arms combat (it's like on paper)


                      According to the theory of what year .. feel free to ask
                      1. 0
                        April 30 2019 12: 01
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        According to the theory of what year .. feel free to ask

                        Do not be shy - ask laughing
                        Numerous studies and computer calculations show that fighting capabilities of modern troops in defense allow reliably repel the offensive

                        Those. "theory of combined arms combat" for contemporaries.
                      2. -1
                        April 30 2019 12: 09
                        Quote: Serg Koma
                        Numerous studies and calculations using computers show that the combat capabilities of modern troops in defense can reliably repel an attack

                        Those. "theory of combined arms combat" for contemporaries

                        And how does this relate to the armies of the 18th century?
                      3. 0
                        April 30 2019 12: 21
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        And how does this relate to the armies of the 18th century?

                        So in the 18th century there was no computer wassat It is unlikely that the reflection of attacks of superior enemy forces in the tactical link while on the defensive has changed much since the appearance of firearms and engineering defenses.
                        Or do you personally have a different opinion on the balance of forces of attacking / defending during military offensive / defensive operations? belay
                      4. -1
                        April 30 2019 12: 25
                        Quote: Serg Koma
                        It is unlikely that the reflection of attacks of a superior number of enemy forces in the tactical link while on the defensive, since the appearance of firearms and engineering defenses, has changed much since

                        It hasn’t changed much. So they attack with columns, defend with the Kare formation, carry out attacks with an oblique formation, a fool’s bayonet fellow done, ain of marshenen colonies ... tsvay marshenen marshen .. that's all
                      5. 0
                        April 30 2019 12: 55
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        So they attack with columns, defend with the Kare formation, conduct attacks with an oblique formation, a fool's bayonet fool bayonet well done .. that's all

                        Have you seen enough movies? Besides the battle scenes of "War and Peace", what else can you suggest as an argument? wink
                        ZY In the original: "Take care of a bullet for three days, and sometimes for a whole campaign, as there is nowhere to take it. Shoot rarely, but accurately; with a bayonet if it is strong. A bullet will cheat, a bayonet will not cheat: a bullet is a fool, a bayonet is great." “At any rate, fight with a cold gun. Valid shot of a gun from 60 to 80 steps; if the line or part of it is in a feat at this distance, then the shooting is in vain, and to strike quickly forward with bayonets "
                  2. 0
                    April 30 2019 13: 58
                    Quote: Town Hall
                    Italian sources give 66.000 soldiers at Suvorov against 34.000 at the French

                    I read again about the battle of Novi (refreshed in memory) and alas for you, but Suvorov completely defeated the French, who had a strong position and commanded them mainly Moreau. Something doubts torment me would Napoleon stand against Suvorov.

                    Quote from the wiki:

                    In this battle, the French occupied one of the strongest positions in the history of wars, which gave them enormous fire advantages and negated Suvorov’s significant advantage in cavalry, balancing the number of troops. All random circumstances (underestimation of the number of Frenchmen by Suvorov and, as a result, the first weak blow to the center; death at the beginning of the battle of Joubert and the arrival of the more experienced Moreau to command; slow actions by Melas, who spent a lot of time covering the Watren division) were inclined to the side of the French army, but, Despite these circumstances, she was completely defeated. The irretrievable losses suffered by the French army came close to those in the battle of Borodino. The battle of Novi is an example of the brilliant military art of Suvorov and one of the few cases in military history when the army, skillfully and steadfastly defending in a strong position, equal in strength to the advancing troops, suffers a heavy defeat.
  4. 0
    April 26 2019 09: 16
    Purely hypothetically, here is his talent in the conditions of the 20th century, with technology and speeds ....
  5. +4
    April 26 2019 09: 24
    Probably the Greatest Leader in World History
    1. +1
      April 26 2019 11: 27
      Quote: Adjutant
      Probably the Greatest Leader in World History


      Exactly.
      Not only that, an outstanding commander, but also a man in the highest sense of the word.
  6. 0
    April 26 2019 19: 38
    Well, it is worth noting that under Rymnik there were much more Austrians than Russians. In general, the Austrians were not bad at all, as overly patriotic historians like to portray them.

    By the way, under Adda, Suvorov had more than one and a half times superiority in numbers, which at that time was a very important factor.
    1. +2
      April 26 2019 19: 53
      In addition, the Austrians at Rymnik themselves asked the Russians for help and the Prince of Coburg himself transferred the supreme command to Suvorov. Although the Austrian, in general, was an intelligent commander himself.
      1. -2
        April 26 2019 20: 06
        And who wrote about this? In the ranks they were the same (general - Anshef Suvorov was equal to the general from the cavalry Kobursky) and received the ranks in one year. Suvorov was older in age, but the Austrian without Suvorov and together with Suvorov smashed the Turks. Under Rymnik, Kobursky and Suvorov each commanded their corps and at first acted separately, and the Austrian cavalry was the main striking force.
        1. 0
          April 27 2019 07: 41
          He defeated the Turks ... Coburg won only one battle against the Turks and buried his reputation earned on Suvorov’s shoulders in Belgium. At least read something before saying such things.
          1. -4
            April 27 2019 13: 01
            Especially for you I quote just Wikipedia. The list of victories for one war, both personal and in Suvorov’s society, is more than impressive. Under Focsani, the Austrians were traditionally in the majority and bore the brunt of the battle.

            In 1788, arriving at Khotyn, the Prince of Coburg attacked the Turks. His first attack was unsuccessful, the second time a victory was won. Now his troops entered Moldova and on March 21 defeated the army of Ibrahim-Nazira Pasha at Batushan. Having suffered a defeat, the Turks retreated to Iasi, from where they were forced to leave on April 19. On April 24, in the battle of Rogatin and Boyana-Elk, the prince defeated Ibrahim Nazira Pasha a second time. May 15, 1788 besieged Khotin, whose garrison capitulated September 16. 200 guns, 2 thousand pounds of gunpowder, 80 thousand cores, 8,5 thousand grenades and other military supplies were seized in the fortress. The prince with his corps moved even deeper into Moldova.

            On August 1, at Fokshany, the prince, together with the Russian commander Suvorov, attacked the 30th army of Osman Pasha and won a brilliant victory. The winners got a big booty, including 16 banners. On August 16, in commemoration of the victory, Emperor Joseph II awarded the Prince of Coburg with a large cross of the Order of Theresa with diamonds, the prince presented the received award to his assembled army with the following words: “I owe this honorable sign to you, my brothers!”

            On September 22, Prince Koburgsky and Suvorov defeated the Yusuf Pasha army on the Rymnik River. The Turks fought fiercely: more than 5 thousand Turkish soldiers remained on the battlefield, 100 banners and 80 guns fell into the hands of the winners.

            In the spring of 1790, the army of the Prince of Coburg seized the Turkish fortress of Orsovo, and then besieged the fortress of Zhurzhu, however, a successful attack by the Turks in June forced the Austrians to lift the siege. In June, the Austrians also defeated the Turks at Kalefat.

            About Belgium. There he fought not with the Turks but with the French and the ally was not Russian but the Golan. Nevertheless, the Austrian army, although lost, is quite worthy. Let me remind you that Suvorov’s Alpine campaign was a retreat and was accompanied by the loss of all guns

            Koburgsky won at Resmes, Famar and Caesar's Camp. In the summer, after successful sieges, he was able to conquer successively three French border fortresses - Conde, Valenciennes and Le Ken
            Under Wattignier and Fleurus, the adversary had a very serious superiority and pushed the Austrians back, suffering more heavy losses.

            Etc. Read for yourself something other than children's books.
            1. +3
              April 27 2019 16: 15
              Wikipedia A superficial knowledge of the question is the main cause of errors in the conclusions.
              1. Khotin. But didn’t the fortress surrender without assault when Kamensky’s division took Iasi and cut off Khotin’s supply? But is there anything that except for Coburg near Khotyn the Saltykov’s division operated ?. Read Rumyantsev’s angry relations about the stupid actions of Coburg near Khotyn. The collection of letters of Rumyantsev is available on the Internet. In extreme cases - Petrov A.N. The second Turkish war in the reign of Catherine II. A children's book, as you write, is easy to beat.
              2. Fokshany and Rymnik - the merit of Coburg. But nothing that Coburg asked Suvorov for help and threatened that if he didn’t have time for him, Coburg would retreat? Coburg's only independent success was during Calafate in 1790.
              3. Belgium. Valenciennes, Landresi and other fortresses did not give up as a result of the assaults, but by starvation. This is not Ishmael with Prague. The Austrians did not take Kenua. All of Coburg’s private successes have been erased by the failure of the company, as a result of which France captured Belgium.
              So that you do not spread from Wikipedia, to compare Suvorov with Coburg is a laugh.
              1. -5
                April 27 2019 16: 29
                Yes, you at least answer on Wikipedia. What do not like - skip. When the Russians operated near Kobursky, the Russians won, when only a third of Russians near Rymnik and Fokshan, the Russians won again. OK. The Austrians passed by - did not participate in anything. Coburg asked for help. Why not. If they conducted joint military operations, then this implies interaction. And this does not remove the fact of the magnificent actions of the Austrians under the command of Kobursky.
                And starving the fortress is the right decision. The assault of Izmail is a forced and bloody decision for the Russians.

                The failure of the company of course lies with the commander in chief, I do not argue. But the enemy always had an advantage in numbers and never smashed Kobursky.

                Suvorov, too, by the way, following the results of the Italian campaign, although he escaped from Massena, the army was in an extremely deplorable state, much worse than the retreating troops of Kobursky

                They can and should be compared. Although rather Suvorov was a talented commander, and Kobusky was just a very efficient general.
                1. +4
                  April 27 2019 16: 38
                  Suvorov fled from Massena !? Are you out of your mind? Truly, if you want enlightenment, enter into a polemic on the Internet with a stranger. To compare the great commander who did not take a single battle with the Austrian, who quietly crap his allies under Khotyn, and under Rymnik suggested retreating, having learned the size of the enemy - this is something.
                  1. -5
                    April 27 2019 16: 47
                    OK. Suvorov did not run away from Massena, but defeated him, freed Italy from the French, took Paris and hanged Napoleon. You are satisfied ?
                    I re-read the correspondence. I didn’t understand what you were excited about. You have not refuted a single my thesis and the conclusions on personalities are almost the same.
                  2. -4
                    April 27 2019 16: 58
                    Suvorov fled from Massena !? Are you out of your mind?


                    And what is it called when the army runs away from the enemy, dropping carts, guns and wounded?
                    1. 0
                      April 28 2019 01: 02
                      Quote: Town Hall
                      Suvorov fled from Massena !? Are you out of your mind?


                      And what is it called when the army runs away from the enemy, dropping carts, guns and wounded?


                      Another grief specialist. It was only in your imagination that our wounded were abandoned.
                      1. 0
                        April 28 2019 01: 26
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        And what is it called when the army runs away from the enemy, dropping carts, guns and wounded?

                        Do not run away.
                        Quote: Sertorius
                        It was only in your imagination that our wounded were abandoned.

                        They left it altogether, because there was nothing to carry.
                        “Aufenberg, with a team of Austrians, is walking today on the road to Glaris. On the way expels the enemy from the gorge of mountains, at the lake of Saint-Rutin; Glaris occupies, if he can, but fights bravely, and there is no backing for him; beats the enemy in Russian! - Prince Peter (Bagration) with his goes tomorrow, on time; gives allowance to Aufenberg and replaces it, and drives the enemy to Glaris. - Item in Glaris! - Wilim Khristoforovich (Derfelden) is following Prince Bagration and I am with him. - The Rosenberg Corps remains here; to him to help the regiment Fershter. Will the trouble come? “Break it!”, Certainly beat it to death and drive it to Schwyz, - no further! .. All the packs, all the burdens, Rosenberg will send for us undercover; and the corps follows us, having stood a few in place, so as not to interfere. There is nothing to bring the seriously wounded: to gather everyone; leave everyone here with food; with them the necessary servant and healer. “Leave with this an officer who knows French.” He looks after the wounded, like a father after children. Give him money for the first wounded. - Call Fuchs, Trefurt (diplomatic officials)! To write to Massenet that our seriously wounded remain and are entrusted, by humanity, with the patronage of the French government. - Mikhailo (Miloradovich)! You are ahead, facing the enemy! - Maxim (Maxim Vasilievich Rebinder)! Glory to you! .. Everything, all of you are Russian! - Do not give the enemy top: beat him and drive as before! - With God! - Go and do everything for the glory of Russia and its autocrat Tsar Sovereign !. “He bowed to us, and we went out.”

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                        April 28 2019 02: 00
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Did not run away

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        They left it altogether, because there was nothing to carry


                        Stylistics. The essence of the matter does not change. The goals of the campaign are completely failed, the army is defeated and the remnants are not operational. Blame everything except the command of the army.
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                        April 28 2019 02: 30
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        The essence of the matter does not change. The goals of the campaign are completely failed, the army is defeated and the rest are not operational. Blame everything except the command of the army.

                        From there.
                        Meanwhile, Archduke Karl received an order immediately upon arrival of the Rimsky-Korsakov corps to withdraw all Austrian troops from Switzerland, to the last soldier. Regarding such an order, Tuguta Suvorov wrote: “Was this owl crazy or never had one!” It should be noted that the order was issued contrary to the agreement, according to which the Russians were to replace the Austrians gradually and equally. The absurdity of orders coming from Vienna was so clear that Archduke Karl, leaving Switzerland, undertook to leave 22 people there for a while. under the command of Gotze

                        After the destruction of Massenna Korsakov and Gotze, Suvorov had no chance. And, the fact that he managed to withdraw the remnants of the troops, and with the battles, is not a defeat.
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        April 27 2019 13: 09
        The Turks were mostly a poorly organized irregular crowd. And in those days they could not always resist the correct European system. And I want to ask you in return, what successes the Russians had against the French, except for a draw at Preisisch-Eylau.

        The strange Battle of Marego began with the victory of the Austrians, and only their self-confidence led to the final defeat. That is, their actions were quite worthy. as in Wagram, where they lost but were not defeated by a much stronger army.
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