Why was Suvorov in Italy

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220 years ago, in March 1799, the Suvorov Italian campaign began. Combat operations of the combined Russian-Austrian army under the command of Field Marshal A.V. Suvorov against the French troops in Northern Italy.

This campaign was part of the Second Anti-French Coalition War, which consisted of Britain, Austria, the Holy Roman Empire (its emperors were the Hapsburgs, who ruled in Austria), Russia, the Ottoman Empire, the Neapolitan Kingdom and Sweden against France. Russia formally waged a war with the aim of limiting the expansion of the sphere of influence of revolutionary France, in order to force France to peace, to return to former borders and restore lasting peace in Europe.



Prehistory The military-political situation in Europe

The French Revolution became an important event in stories Europe and caused a series of wars. Bourgeois England did not want France, in the person of France, to be a strong competitor who could unite around itself a significant part of Western Europe and defy the English project of the “new world order”. The British wanted to seize the French colonies, foreign resources and markets. Other great Western European powers - Austria and Prussia did not want to give up their positions. France was the traditional adversary of Austria. Therefore, at first Austria wanted to take advantage of the turmoil in France, an opportune moment for territorial seizures, political and economic concessions from Paris. When France launched an offensive, Austria fought for the preservation of its empire, for supremacy in Belgium, southern Germany and northern Italy. Other powers - Naples, Spain, Turkey - hoped to profit at the expense of a weakened great power.

The Russian Empress Catherine the Second took advantage of this situation to solve the age-old national tasks of Russia. In words, she sharply criticized the French Revolution, agreed on the need to jointly oppose France and restore the monarchy there. Catherine delayed the negotiations. In fact, Catherine solved the task of restoring the unity of Russia with the Western Russian lands (Sections of the Commonwealth) and the question of the Black Sea Straits and Constantinople. The Russian empire had to solve the Polish question once and for all, to establish borders in the western strategic direction, returning the previously lost lands of Western Russia. Make the Black Sea a “Russian lake” by joining the straits and Constantinople-Tsargrad, providing protection for the southwestern borders of the empire for centuries.

While all the leading Western powers were connected by events in France, Russia in 1791 ended the war with Turkey victoriously. The Yassky peace treaty secured the entire Northern Black Sea region, the Crimean peninsula, for the Russian Empire, and strengthened its position in the Balkan Peninsula and the Caucasus. The lands between the Southern Bug and the Dniester were ceded to Russia. The Russians establish Tiraspol and Odessa, actively master the region. Catherine the Great plans to continue the offensive and solve a thousand-year task - to take Constantinople - Constantinople, the Black Sea Straits. The political situation for this was very favorable - all the great powers of Europe were connected with the war with revolutionary France. France itself, which had a strong position in the Ottoman Empire, was also temporarily turned off from the Big Game.

Petersburg in 1792 year concluded an alliance with Austria and Prussia against France, promised to expose the auxiliary corps and help the troops if the French cross the Austrian or Prussian border. As a result, there was no one to protest against the Second Partition of the Commonwealth. In addition, England entered the anti-French alliance in 1793. Britain and Russia pledged to cease trade with France and discourage other European countries from trading with the French. This system of unions allowed Russia to calmly settle the Polish question. Russia was reunited with the Western Russian lands, the Russian people were almost entirely within the borders of the Russian state.

In the course of the 1792 campaign, the armies of Austria and Prussia did not achieve victory in the struggle against France. In 1793, the war against revolutionary France broke out with a new force. However, the French revolutionary army, which initially waged a just war, defending the fatherland, launched an offensive and began to beat the enemy. In 1794, the French not only drove the enemy troops from their land, but also captured Belgium and Holland.

In 1794, Russia defeated the Poles in the Second Polish War. In 1795, Russia, Austria and Prussia formed the Third Partition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Polish state was liquidated. Also, the three great powers committed themselves to helping each other in suppressing the revolutionary movement in Poland and to conduct a joint struggle with France. At the same time, Russia and Austria signed a secret agreement on Turkey. Vienna agreed that in the event of a new military uprising of Porta against Russia, the Austrians would act together with the Russians. And after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the creation of Dacia (from the Christian and Slavic regions of the Turkish Empire with its capital in Constantinople), which is in vassal dependence on Russia, was presented to the sultan's government as conditions for peace. Austria was to receive the Venetian region. Also, Russia and Austria concluded an alliance against Prussia, if the Prussians attacked the Austrians or the Russians. Thus, Petersburg very skillfully and wisely used the war of the leading Western powers with France to solve the age-old national tasks.

In 1795, Spain, Prussia, and North German principalities emerged from the war with France. South German principalities, Sardinia and Naples tended towards the world. Only England stood firm for the war. London tried to organize a new trip to Paris, already with the help of Russia. England and Russia entered into a new anti-French alliance. The Russian Baltic Fleet was supposed to support the British in the North Sea. However, the new campaign in 1795 did not take place, as Austria did not dare to take active steps, limiting itself to a number of sluggish operations. At the end of the 1795 of the year, Vienna made a truce with Paris.

The 1796 campaign of the year was unsuccessful for the Allies. Napoleon Bonaparte’s army defeated the Austrians in Northern Italy. The Italian states of Modena, Parma and Naples stopped the fight against the French. Austria was forced to withdraw from the war. The Russian fleet returned home from the North Sea. Catherine used this situation to finally resolve the Turkish issue. She promised Austria auxiliary 60-th. Russian army, but on the condition of speaking out against the French Prussia and monetary assistance from England. The army was to be headed by A. Suvorov. She began to form in the south of Russia. Simultaneously, the Black Sea Fleet under the command of F. F. Ushakov was preparing for the march.

It is worth noting that at the same time (in 1796 year), Russia established itself in the South Caucasus. The Russian Caspian Corps captured Derbent, Baku, Cuba, annexed the Shemakha and Sheki khanates. Russian troops reached the confluence of the Kura and Araks rivers. After that, the possibility of obedience to Northern Persia or a strike against Turkey opened up.

Many indirect evidence suggests that Catherine was "on the sly" preparing to seize the straits - the Constantinople operation. The Black Sea Fleet, under the command of Ushakov, was to disembark Suvorov’s landing army in the straits zone and seize Tsargrad-Constantinople. Thus, the Russians closed the Black Sea from any potential adversary, solved the task of entering the Mediterranean region, creating a strategic base and a bridgehead here - the straits and Constantinople. Christian and Slavic peoples of the Balkan Peninsula passed into the Russian sphere of influence. Russia led the process of creating a huge Slavic empire. However, this shot on Constantinople did not take place due to the death of Catherine II.

Foreign Policy Pavel Petrovich

Paul the First quite reasonably refused to war with France. Emperor Paul is one of the most maligned rulers in the Russian empire (The myth of the "mad emperor" Paul I; Knight on the throne). To hide the shameful story of his murder (with the active participation of the Russian aristocracy, who spent British gold), created a “black myth” about the idiot emperor, madman on the throne, tyrant, who exiled Guards officers to Siberia only because of bad mood and forbade people to wear french clothes. In reality, Paul was quite a sensible statesman, a knight emperor, who tried to restore order in the country, restore discipline to the nobility, which decayed during the “golden age” of Catherine. This he aristocrats and did not forgive. At the same time, Paul eventually challenged Britain, realized the nonsense of the confrontation with France, when the Russian soldiers became “cannon fodder” fighting in the interests of Vienna and London.

Russia did not have territorial, historical, economic or any other disputes with the French. There was not even a common border. France did not threaten Russia. Moreover, it was beneficial for us that the leading powers of the West are connected with the war with France. Russia could calmly solve really important foreign policy tasks - consolidation in the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea, the Balkans, and the resolution of the Black Sea straits issue. It was necessary to concentrate on the internal development of a vast empire.

Pavel proposed to convene a congress in Leipzig to hold talks with France on the conclusion of eternal peace. The congress did not take place, but defeated Austria was forced to make peace with France in October 1797 year in Campo Formio. True, the world was fragile, temporary. Both sides were preparing for the continuation of hostilities.

Soon, however, Russia was able to be drawn into an unnecessary confrontation with France. Bourgeois France, as before, and monarchist, began to wage wars of conquest. The interests of the big bourgeoisie demanded the conduct of war, the seizure and robbery of new lands, the creation of the French colonial empire. At first, the focus was on the Mediterranean region. Napoleon's Italian campaign ended with the seizure and robbery of Northern Italy. The French seized the Ionian Islands and entrenched on the Adriatic coast, creating a springboard for further advance in the Balkans and an attack on Turkey. Next, Napoleon planned to seize Egypt, build the Suez Canal and thereby pave the way to India. It was also planned to occupy Palestine and Syria. Thus, Napoleon threatened not only the Ottoman Empire, but the British project of globalization (the creation of the world British Empire).

Starting a campaign in Egypt, in the summer of 1798, the French captured Malta. The Russian Emperor Paul was the Grand Master of the Order of Malta, that is, the island was formally under the protector of Russia. In addition, rumors appeared in Petersburg that the French were preparing a large fleet for the invasion of the Black Sea. In fact, the French fleet was prepared, but to fight the British, support and supply the army of Napoleon in Egypt. These rumors were misinformation.

As a result, the French capture of Malta, rumors of a threat to the Black Sea, the machinations of Vienna and London prompted Paul the First to engage in a struggle with France. Therefore, when Porta, frightened by the French onslaught in Egypt, asked for help from St. Petersburg, the Russian government decided to send the Black Sea squadron to the straits and the Mediterranean Sea to create a strong barrier in case of a French attack fleet. The Second Anti-French Coalition also included England, Austria, Naples, Sweden.

Why was Suvorov in Italy

Paul I in the crown, dalmatics and signs of the Order of Malta. Artist V. L. Borovikovsky

Campaign plan

Russia initially pledged to deploy 65 thousand army for joint action with Austria and England. Russia was to fight in three theaters: in Holland (together with the British), in Italy and Switzerland (together with the Austrians) and in the Mediterranean Sea (with the Turks and the British). The 20-thousand corps of General Rosenberg was sent to help Austria for the fighting in Italy. The 27-thousandth corps of Rimsky-Korsakov, together with the 7-thousandth of the French émigré corps of Prince Condé (he was accepted into the Russian service in 1797), first had to strengthen the Prussian army and fight on the Rhine, but Prussia refused to oppose France. Therefore, the corps of Rimsky-Korsakov decided to send to Switzerland to strengthen the Austrian troops. 11-thousand corps of General Hermann von Fersen was to fight along with the British in Holland.

In addition, for joint operations with the British fleet in the North Sea, 2 squadrons were sent: the squadron of Vice Admiral Makarov (3 battleship and 3 frigate), left for the winter in England; and the squadron of Vice-Admiral Khanykov (the 6 of the battleships and the 4 frigate). For action in the Mediterranean, the Black Sea Fleet sent ships under the command of Vice Admiral Ushakov (6 battleships, 7 frigates and several auxiliary ships). The Black Sea squadron was to liberate the Ionian Islands, to operate in southern Italy and help the British in the liberation of Malta. Russia also formed on the western border two armies (Lacy and Gudovich) and a separate corps. Austria was supposed to put 225 thousand. People. England own fleet.

Due to the various strategic goals of the powers leading the war with France, the allies did not have a common plan of war. England was focused on the war on the sea - the North and Mediterranean seas, the seizure of the French and Dutch ships, the French colonies. The British tried to crush the French forces in the Mediterranean basin, seize their strategic bases - Malta, the Ionian Islands, and knock the French out of Holland. Austria, planning to seize Belgium, the South German principalities and Northern Italy, respectively, concentrated their main forces here. The main thing was the North Italian theater, and Vienna demanded that all Russian forces be sent here.

France had a 230 thousand army, but it was scattered on a huge front. Napoleon's army fought in Egypt. In Southern Italy, the 34-thousandth army of MacDonald was located; in Northern Italy, the 58-thousandth army of Scherer and the 25 of thousands of soldiers were garrisoned in fortresses; in Switzerland, the 48-thousandth army of Massena; on the Rhine, Jourdan’s 37-thousand army and Bernadotte’s 8 thousand corps; in the Netherlands - 27-thousandth army of Brun.

While the Allies were preparing for hostilities, the troops of the French Republic went on the offensive and defeated the Austrians, occupying almost all of Switzerland and Northern Italy. The commander of the Italian army, Scherer began to move troops to the borders of Austria, and then took up defensive positions on the Adda river.

The fighting went on in the Mediterranean. Napoleon captured Egypt and was about to go to Syria. However, the British destroyed the French fleet and cut the enemy’s supply lines. Napoleon's troops were cut off, but continued to fight, holding down the forces of the Ottoman Empire and the British fleet. The Russian squadron of Ushakov liberated the Ionian Islands from the French in 1798 and laid siege to their main fortress on Corfu. In March 1799, Corfu was stormed (How the Russians took the impregnable fortress of Corfu; Part 2). During the expedition of the ships of Ushakov, it became clear that the appearance of the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean Sea irritated the "partners" of Russia - Austria and England. The Austrians and the British themselves wanted to establish themselves in the Ionian Islands, the British coveted to Corfu and Malta. Ushakov, who quickly figured out such a "friendship" of the allies, wrote to Petersburg that the Westerners are trying to "split us off from all real affairs and ... force them to catch flies, but instead of them to enter the places from which they are trying to separate us ..."


A.V. Suvorov-Rymniki. Unknow painter. The second half of the XVIII century.

To be continued ...
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  1. +5
    27 March 2019 05: 38
    I agree, it was necessary to be friends with France.
    Well, and if ... Then mobilize Suvorov and Ushakov, no less. To the root
    1. +13
      27 March 2019 06: 01
      In theory, having correctly agreed with the French, it was possible to redraw the world. There were no direct contradictions at that time
  2. -1
    27 March 2019 06: 22
    Great article turned out.
    1. +3
      27 March 2019 11: 43
      Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      Great article turned out.

      Hmm ...... !!!? Sergey Sergeevich keep it up, perhaps six months before the marshal before serving hi
      Regards, Kote!
      1. +2
        27 March 2019 12: 30
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        Great article turned out.

        Hmm ...... !!!? Sergey Sergeevich keep it up, perhaps six months before the marshal before serving hi
        Regards, Kote!

        I look at me, even fans have appeared, now I will write more often to Kote about these + and- in parallel, unlike you. If the article is really good, then I will write about it. You take such envious people from Otkudov. And do not forget to put a minus, it may become easier. Sincerely, Sergey Sergeevich.
        1. +2
          27 March 2019 20: 37
          Dear Sergey Sergeevich! Here we take such envious ones, from the time we stay on the site, the knowledge of the materiel and opinions that are justified, uncorrelated with the positions of some authors.
  3. +3
    27 March 2019 06: 28
    Why Suvorov ended up in the Alps? The answer is obvious, by order of Emperor Paul. But about the murder of him ... The "leaders" of the Russian State could never be trusted to the aristocracy (oligarchy) .. Examples of Paul, Nicholas II .. Yes, and the current history. ..Will be given ..
    1. +1
      27 March 2019 06: 54
      Peter the Third to the list. But by the way, a lot depends on the personality of the one who is betrayed. And of course, thanks to the author! A noble article came out! Thank you!
      1. +2
        27 March 2019 07: 32
        Yes, and he. Thank you for reminding me. However, he somehow does not mind. However, this is subjective.
        1. 0
          28 March 2019 11: 20
          Quote: 210ox
          Yes, and he. Thank you for reminding me. However, he somehow does not mind.

          Well .... we mostly know about Peter III from those who either participated in his murder or supported the participants — that is, from those who needed to whitewash the rebellion and regicide. So that common knowledge according to Peter III you need to constantly check.
      2. 0
        27 March 2019 08: 23
        That Alexander was afraid all his life that the British would eliminate him at any moment and therefore supported the subsequent coalitions and constantly violated the agreement with Bonoparte
  4. +6
    27 March 2019 07: 31
    What did Suvorov do in Italy? 1) performed an international duty; 2) inflicted a preemptive blow; 3) worked out a foreign loan;
  5. -1
    27 March 2019 07: 47
    Bourgeois France and quasi-monarchist (Napoleonic) France - this was precisely the "new Western project". The British Empire is a suspended project, but not delayed or canceled. For Russia, both of these projects were hostile in the geopolitical perspective, and conceptually, both projects were initially anti-Russian. Just 2 different baskets. For a thousand years, there is enough time to see where the European Fuhrer is forced to sharpen swords every time as a long-term strategic task. This goal is one, was, is and will be - Hyperborea, Russenia, Russia, Russia. Until 1914, it was possible to stop these tricks, and stand on our own, until the inspired Nikki 2nd got into trouble with foreign policy (the objective prerequisites of the revolutionary situation are another topic). And therefore, every time screams about "Stalinist purges" begin, one must poke the "free rights" people into the muck with the story of poor, poor Paul, who did not cleanse enough due to the patriarchal vein of the monarchical order.
    1. -1
      27 March 2019 10: 42
      Quote: andrew42
      For Russia, both of these projects were hostile in a geopolitical perspective.

      So whose projects are they?
      Was Russia a hostile project for them?
    2. +1
      27 March 2019 18: 01
      In many ways, you are right, and the Russian elite was divided almost exclusively into francophone and Anglophilia. And after the enlightened age, there were almost no real Russians among the nobility, no matter what praises the historians Catherine and her eagles sang.
    3. 0
      28 March 2019 16: 51
      Quote: andrew42
      Hyperborea, Russenia, Russia, Russia.

      And where did Tartaria go? am
      1. BTR
        0
        30 March 2019 22: 33
        And she was there at that time: on the sidelines, while the "West" was resolving its internal conflicts.
  6. +1
    27 March 2019 07: 58
    Russia formally waged a war to limit the expansion of the sphere of influence of revolutionary France in order to force France to peace, return to its former borders and restore lasting peace in Europe.

    Why "formally"? Very real: the beast had to be stopped in advance, and not on the territory of Russia itself
    created a “black myth” about a fool emperor, a madman on a throne, a tyrant,. In reality, Paul was quite an intelligent statesman, the emperora knight,

    he was a knight, but not of Russia, but ... of the Order of Malta.
    . Soon, however, they were able to drag Russia into an unnecessary confrontation with France

    Well, what nonsense, these "pull in, set" again? And ignorance of history, while:
    France captured his beloved Malta-that he went to her war with England.
    Then, when she was captured by England, he, together with ... France, went the war against ... England. belay

    Here is such a "Russian statesman" and "nonturachok" lol
    1. +1
      27 March 2019 08: 19
      Good morning to you, Andrei! No, of course he was not what you called him, but there was an abundance of chivalrous romanticism in him. And it’s naive that somehow it is not particularly necessary to control a power.
      1. +1
        27 March 2019 10: 01
        Quote: Phil77
        Good morning to you, Andrei! No, of course he was not what you called him, but there was an abundance of chivalrous romanticism in him. And it’s naive that somehow it is not particularly necessary to control a power.

        And hello, Sergey!
        He was a Maltese knight than the Russian emperor, alas: this was not useful to Russia ...

        And if you recall how he sent the Cossacks ... to beat India from the British, it becomes very sad .....
        1. +1
          27 March 2019 14: 51
          He was a Maltese knight than the Russian emperor, alas: this was not useful to Russia ...
          This is a family - dad was Holstein and, concurrently, the Russian emperor. Here mother had the brains to rearrange priorities.
    2. +2
      27 March 2019 10: 40
      Quote: Olgovich
      Why "formally"? Very real: the beast had to be stopped in advance, and not on the territory of Russia itself

      Well and how - stopped? Tens of thousands of Russian soldiers because of the ambitions of the eccentric king put the letter m in Europe, but what is the result?
      Russia was no less an aggressor in comparison with Napoleonic France. Two of a Kind.
      1. -1
        27 March 2019 10: 57
        Quote: Prometey
        Well and how - stopped? Tens of thousands of Russian soldiers because of the ambitions of the eccentric king put the letter m in Europe, but what is the result?

        failed, alas. But the goal, as Napoleon’s attack on Russia showed, was CORRECT: to defeat the aggressor BEFORE the attack on Russia, SAVE yourself and Europe.
        Quote: Prometey
        Russia was no less an aggressor in comparison with Napoleonic France. Two of a Kind.

        Whom did she "aggression" against? belay
        1. +1
          27 March 2019 11: 51
          I apologize to my colleagues for interfering in your discussion about Pavel Petrovich, but ........
          My opinion is that Paul, being an emperor, was corny as a man of his time and his entourage. A naive and simpleton on the throne - a 40-year-old man, the father of four children, he should not be considered. He is the creator himself and the victim of circumstances. Alas, which led him to death at the hands of his son. So the truth is somewhere in between!
          Regards, Kote!
          1. +1
            27 March 2019 11: 56
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            Naive and simpleton on the throne - a 40-year-old man, the father of four children should not be considered.

            the age and number of children immediately make a person .... a nuisance? belay

            PS Tron he got without effort on his part.
            1. +1
              27 March 2019 12: 06
              Olegovich, and what was better for him to stain his hands with the blood of his mother?
              I do not deny the presence of phobias in Paul! By the way, he proved himself to be one hundred percent in this capacity .....!
              The assessment of himself and his affairs by contemporaries is far from being intended. The same Suvorov rudely spoke about the reforms of Paul, but for example Kutuzov, on the contrary, felt sorry for him as a person!
              Regards, Kote!
              1. +1
                27 March 2019 12: 09
                Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                The same Suvorov rudely spoke about the reforms of Paul, but for example Kutuzov, on the contrary, felt sorry for him as a person!
                Regards, Kote!

                As a person, yes, of course, I'm sorry.

                But this is about the leader of Russia. And here Suvorov is right ...
                Best regards hi
            2. +2
              27 March 2019 13: 45
              Catherine the Great is not in vain her simpleton son until her death did not admit to state affairs. She felt she would do business.
        2. +1
          27 March 2019 20: 34
          Quote: Olgovich
          failed, alas. But the goal, as Napoleon’s attack on Russia showed, was CORRECT: to defeat the aggressor BEFORE the attack on Russia, SAVE yourself and Europe.

          If without pathos, you separate the effect from the cause. Is there evidence that Napoleon wanted war, or even more so an invasion of Russia? After all, 3 wars led to this, in which, alas, Russia de facto acted as an aggressor.
          Quote: Olgovich
          Whom did she "aggression" against?

          Do you deny France the right to sovereignty or the same Poland that you have been tricked into?
          1. 0
            28 March 2019 09: 42
            Quote: Prometey
            If without pathos, you separate the effect from the cause. Is there evidence that Napoleon wanted war, or even more so an invasion of Russia?

            Open the history section of the conquests of France in that period: how many countries he occupied. Why is Russia better than them? Hitler-remember?
            Quote: Prometey
            After all, 3 wars led to this, in which, alas, Russia de facto acted as an aggressor.

            WHERE Russia aggressed against France, the name of the French lands, bring! Nantes, Provence or where?
            Quote: Prometey
            Are you denying France the right to sovereignty or the same Poland that you have been tricked into?

            I understand: Smolensk, Minsk and Brest are still Polish land for you.
            1. 0
              28 March 2019 12: 15
              Quote: Olgovich
              Open the history section of the conquests of France in that period: how many countries he occupied. Why is Russia better than them?

              What was the matter of Russia to the division of land between European countries? What did Russia care about the form of power in France in order to send its soldiers to slaughter?
              Quote: Olgovich
              I understand: Smolensk, Minsk and Brest are still Polish land for you.

              Smolensk, why did you shove it here?
  7. 0
    27 March 2019 08: 20
    Quote: Olgovich
    France captured his beloved Malta, and he went to war with her

    In truth they say that sometimes "Simplicity is worse than theft." It is very strange to see such, without any hesitation, sewing "the case of an emotionally unbalanced fool" in relation to the Russian emperor, who received an excellent education, who has seen enough of the court competition of the intriguing favorites of the empress in his life. All the more strange it sounds from the praise of the monarchical Russia "which we have lost." Simplification of the question is not an end in itself, and always requires verification, is the superfluous really cut off, and maybe the superfluous just remains?
    1. +1
      27 March 2019 11: 20
      Quote: andrew42
      In truth they say that sometimes "Simplicity is worse than theft."

      definitely true Yes
      Quote: andrew42
      It is very strange to see such, without any hesitation, sewing "the case of an emotionally unbalanced fool" in relation to the Russian emperor, who received an excellent education, who has seen enough of the court competition of the intriguing favorites of the empress in his life.

      no education, unfortunately, does not make a smart person out of Turk. request ] It’s very strange to see such a misunderstanding, a misunderstanding of this axioms.
      Quote: andrew42
      All the more strange it sounds from the praise of monarchical Russia "which we have lost"

      What is strange then? FACTS? belay So study them and the "oddities" will disappear:

      -1798-seizure by France of Malta-war against France together with England.

      - seizure on September 5, 1800 by the British fleet of the strategically important island of Malta, which Paul I, as the great master of the Order of Malta, considered subordinate territory. This was received by Paul as a personal insult. As a response, on November 22 (December 4) 1800, Paul I issued a decree imposing sequestration on all English ships in all Russian ports (there were up to 300), as well as on the suspension of payment to all English merchants from now on until they are calculated on debt obligations in Russia , with a ban on the sale of English goods in the empire. Diplomatic relations between countries were interrupted. Just like his father because of private dynastic interest in Holstein almost involved Russia in the war with Denmark, so Paul, caring for the interests of the Maltese knights, put Russia on the brink of war with Britain, the strongest sea power of that time.
      Quote: andrew42
      Simplification of the issue is not an end in itself, and always requires verification whether the excess is really cut off, or maybe the excess remains?

      The following very well characterizes this "non-fool" who instructed the ataman Vasily Orlov before the campaign .... to India (and the Cossacks, after all, went!):

      Remember that you it’s all about the British, and peace with all those who will not help them; and so, passing them, assure about the friendship of Russia and go from the Indus to the Ganges, and there to the English. In passing approve Bukharia, so that the Chinese do not get it. If infantry was needed, then after you, and not another, it will be possible. But it’s better if you did it yourself.
      belay fool
  8. +1
    27 March 2019 09: 19
    Full of contradictions: "The Russian Empress Catherine II took advantage of this situation to solve the age-old national problems of Russia." And the results of our actions presented below confirm this. (By the way, we would not really fight with France directly).
    On the other hand: "Pavel eventually challenged Britain, realized the whole stupidity of confrontation with France, when Russian soldiers became" cannon fodder "fighting in the interests of Vienna and London."
    Didn't he make them "cannon fodder" when he sent the Russian troops to fight because "in the summer of 1798 the French captured Malta"? Did we care about this Malta?
    “Russia did not have territorial, historical, economic or any other disputes with the French. There was not even a common border. France did not threaten Russia in any way. Moreover, it was beneficial for us that the leading powers of the West were tied by war with France. Russia could calmly solve really important foreign policy tasks - consolidation in the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea, the Balkans, solving the issue of the Black Sea straits. It was necessary to concentrate on the internal development of a huge empire. "
    Turks were afraid of the French? Well, we have less attention, the British are afraid for Egypt, it’s even better, it’s time to tackle the straits, but the brilliant and unjustly slandered Paul I decides to fight with France, with which we have nothing to share ...
    Undoubtedly Paul is not a "fool @ k on the throne", but this "knight emperor" did so many nonsense that the result was logical.
    Well, the two allies of Russia: the Army and Navy performed the task perfectly. I read this part of the article with pleasure hi
    1. +1
      27 March 2019 09: 27
      I cleaned the word "fool @ k" from the site in the comments ... fellow
    2. +1
      27 March 2019 11: 21
      Yes, Paul is clearly not a complete "incompetent ruler" what place in history he was prescribed, but he is clearly a bird of less flight, compared to his mother, like his dad, he managed to bury most of the diplomatic game started by his predecessors. But on the scale of the late Bourbons (for example), both French and especially Spanish, the Romanovs and I were very lucky in general) wink
  9. +5
    27 March 2019 11: 38
    As always in Samsonov’s story, anything but history.
    Starting a campaign in Egypt, in the summer of 1798, the French captured Malta. Russian Emperor Paul was the great master of the Order of Malta
    When Malta surrendered to the French without a fight on June 11, 1798, the seventy-first Grand Master of the Order of Malta was Ferdinand von Gompesch zu Bölheim, a former Austrian envoy to the Order.
    Gompesh was forced to leave the island with his knights and went to Trieste, from where he solemnly protested against the capture of Malta.
    Gompesh transferred his dignity to Emperor Paul I, who became Grand Master in December 1798, half a year after the French captured Malta.
    Russia did not have territorial, historical, economic or any other disputes with the French. There was not even a common border. France did not threaten Russia
    The issue is at least controversial.
    "For peace to be possible and lasting, England must be convinced that she will not find more accomplices on the continent. It is necessary, therefore, that the Russian colossus and its hordes can no longer threaten the south with an invasion."
    These are the words of Napoleon, spoken in a conversation with the former French ambassador in St. Petersburg, A.O. L. Kolenkur.
    As for economic contradictions, they were the result of the Anglo-French confrontation.
    Russia's participation in the continental blockade of England was detrimental to the Russian economy. The volume of foreign trade of Russia for 1808-1812. decreased by 43%. France could not compensate for this damage, since the economic ties between Russia and France were superficial (mainly, the import of French luxury goods into Russia). Violating the foreign trade turnover of Russia, the continental system upset its finances. Already in 1809, the budget deficit increased compared to 1801 from 12,2 million to 157,5 million rubles, that is, almost 13 times. On this basis, a serious conflict was brewing between Russia and France.
    Well, as for the foreign policy of Paul I, it was well characterized by the Russian historian Platonov: "The element of chance was just as strong in foreign policy as in domestic policy: both here and there, Paul was guided by feeling rather than idea."
    1. 0
      28 March 2019 11: 28
      Quote: Undecim
      "For peace to be possible and lasting, England must be convinced that she will not find more accomplices on the continent. It is necessary, therefore, that the Russian colossus and its hordes can no longer threaten the south with an invasion."
      These are the words of Napoleon, spoken in a conversation with the former French ambassador in St. Petersburg, A.O. L. Kolenkur.

      And here we Englishwoman crap ©. smile
      For some reason, those who want to conquer Europe regularly consider us the last hope of England on the continent and try to conquer it because of this - regardless of who rules Russia and what political system it has.
      Russia is that factor on which England most of all puts. Something like that happened in London! The English were already completely down *, and now they rose again. From listening to conversations, it is clear that Russia is unpleasantly struck by the rapid development of events in Western Europe.
      Russia only needs to tell England that it does not want Germany to be strengthened, and then the British will, like drowning people, hope that in 6-8 months things will turn out completely different.
      But if Russia is broken, England’s last hope will fade. The lord of Europe and the Balkans will then be Germany.
      Solution: this clash with Russia must be done away with.
      © From a recording by Halder of a meeting at Hitler in Berghof. July 31, 1940
  10. 0
    27 March 2019 12: 49
    No, the "slandered" Pavel did not actually act in the interests of Russia and the Russian people, if the main motive for joining the anti-French coalition was the capture of Malta by the French. Ekaterina was guided by more global tasks, the squeezing of territories wherever possible.
    It just so coincided that the Slavs in central Europe found themselves in the zone of interests of its global politics, but for example, the forests of the North American Tlenkites and the Aleut Islands belonged to the same areas. It was some unbridled, crazy dances on the blood of Russian people of their rulers, arrogantly taking the authority to dispose of the fate of the world at the hands of his subordinates.
    However, this then applied to all world monarchies, but there were no more reigning dynasties anywhere more than in Russia than in Russia. Continued in the same vein of a violent game of soldiers of representatives of the reigning house of the Gotorpov, led them to collapse after a hundred years.
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      27 March 2019 15: 06
      Quote: pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
      but the same areas included, for example, North American forests tlenkitoin and islands AleutovIt was some kind of rampant, crazy dances on the blood of Russians people of their rulers

      list the "dances". What kind of nonsense? belay
      Quote: pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
      but more antinnational than in Russia, there were no reigning dynasties anywhere else.

      And where were .. more national? lol
      Quote: pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
      Continued in the same vein of a violent game of soldiers of representatives of the reigning house of the Gotorpov, led them to collapse after a hundred years.

      In what vein, what games in what soldiers, what Gotorps? belay
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        April 2 2019 18: 59
        Make your request in the appropriate form and if, after that, it does not lose its relevance, I will answer with pleasure.
  11. 0
    27 March 2019 18: 04
    And it was only by the year 1812 that patriotism in Russia with the support of the serf peasantry became real. And before that, a professional army went to war almost as if it were a training exercise. Exit model in support of the sovereigns, listed as friends and kindred, and Paul and his son Alexander ....
  12. 0
    27 March 2019 19: 42
    In principle, the plans of Paul I were sufficiently substantiated. Capturing Paris with a combined strike from the north through the Benelux and the south through Italy with the help of the Allies was not something impossible, given the fact that France managed to disperse its troops somewhat far from the metropolis. But the allies, it seems, were too chasing their small, momentary tasks and simply used the troops of Paul I as a consumable. And who wanted to give primacy to the eastern barbarians? As a result, only the southern operation under the command of Suvorov in the north of the Italian boot was relatively successful. He could completely destroy both armies of the French, but the Austrians preferred a tit in their hands and instead of destroying the enemy and throwing them at Paris, they occupied key fortresses and cities of Italy i.e. They threw Russia insolently. Suvorov’s further march through the Alps is generally absurd. Not only as Paul I generally led with the help of a globe. True, someone guessed that the artillery would not pass through the mountains and it safely arrived along the Adriatic coast. And so the corps of the celebrated commander of our national pride reached his extremely bloodless. The role of the Black Sea Squadron, which in theory was supposed to support and provide Suvorov from the sea, is incomprehensible, but she fulfilled her tasks divorced from a decisive invasion of the south of France.
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    28 March 2019 00: 37
    Quote: geologist
    As a result, only the southern operation under the command of Suvorov in the north of the Italian boot was relatively successful.

    This Italian campaign by Suvorov was not "relatively successful." It was heavy - yes, bloody, yes, too ...
    But having practically destroyed the Italian army of the French, Suvorov had a plan and intentions to move to Paris, and there was no one to stop him. Except, as it turned out, the "partners", who began to greedily huddle up the rich Italian provinces, but did not mean such a pleasant thing as the capture of Paris by the Russians.
    Well, it’s like in a ftball: if you don’t score, they will beat you. Not with the genius Suvorov already, but soon Vienna and Moscow were taken by the French.
  14. 0
    28 March 2019 08: 25
    In general, the French had 2 armies. One occupied the center and south of modern Italy with the cities of Naples, Rome, etc. When the garrisons left these cities under the threat of an attack by partisans and the Anglo-Russian fleet, 35 thousand people were gathered in a fist. The second army occupied Milan and several other fortresses in the north of present-day Italy. The 1st Northern Army was forced out to sea, but still the straight road along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea was closed, moreover, these armies could surround and defeat Suvorov with a coordinated strike from the south and north. Fortunately, the French acted inconsistently and the southern army Suvorov was able to push back in decisive battle before the enemy campaign from the north. At the same time, a small contingent was sent from the north. the French had to block the road to the border of France. Perhaps the northern army was afraid that the Austrians would lay siege to the cities and send a corps of 15-25 thousand Austrians to help Suvorov, but only one battery with cover came up to the battle, which had no effect. As a result of these operations, all of Italy was liberated from the French and the Austrians regained the territory of the Holy Roman Empire, but the main task - a trip to Paris was impossible because the French were not destroyed or captured. The company ended up with large acquisitions for the Austrian Empire, and Russia wasted its military reserves.
  15. +2
    28 March 2019 09: 58
    "France did not threaten Russia in any way."
    The author is simply naive. Russia was then most worried about two pain points - the Polish question and the Turkish one. France of that time was a geopolitical partner of Turkey and Poland. Any war with Russia of these our neighbors could not do without French dirty tricks, both political and military (remember Dumurie in Poland or French military advisers in Turkey). The fact that France became a republic in the diplomatic arrangements did not change anything.
    Moreover. Bonaparte, having destroyed the Venetian Republic, captured Corfu, creating the basis for the spread of French influence in Greece and the Balkans, which Russia considered to be its sphere of influence (in the event of war with the Turks, the Orthodox population of this region each time supported Russia) It was not without reason that Ushakov's main task was to liberate Corfu . We do not forget that Russian interest was also present in Germany, in that fragmented part, which acted as a counterweight to the excessive strengthening of Austria and Prussia (which is why the Romanovs in the family have Hessian, Holstein, and Oldenburg relatives). Yes, we maintained good relations with the Austrians and Prussians, but these allies knew the price and were guided primarily by their interests. And the interest was that France did not finally end Austria. We will then see what happens in 1809 - France chopped off Dalmatia from Austria and settled in the Balkans. In Germany, the Rhine Confederation arose - the vassal of France. As a result, Russia's influence on world politics confidently went down.
    Therefore, without even touching on relations with England, Russia had to get into this war and send Suvorov to wet the Jacobins.
  16. -1
    29 March 2019 12: 03
    and then uninformed descendants will be surprised that the Frenchman went to war against us? Namely, because Alexander owned by the mustache of Napoleon sending troops (Suvorov in particular) to Europe, well, he was interrogated for the invasion! Well, historians, as always ... "and what for us?", Because Russia has always been and is white and fluffy!
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      31 March 2019 01: 25
      Alexander pulled Napoleon's mustache sending troops (Suvorov in particular) to Europe

      Alexander as emperor and Suvorov as Suvorov did not intersect chronologically.
  17. 0
    31 March 2019 11: 03
    Napoleon would have invaded Russia anyway, even if she had sat quietly and observed neutrality. In the general concept of the conquest of the world by Napoleon, Russia was simply a transit country, and Moscow was viewed only as an intermediate base in the Great March to India and Asia. It was impossible to take the continent by sea, and in general the emperor was already bored in Europe. He did not regard Russia as a rival, but the fire of Moscow confused his plans. The base for the expedition to India was destroyed by the cunning Scythians and the further "drangnahosten" failed.