India decided to make changes in the design of AK-203

Indian officials confirmed that the Russian AK-203 assault rifles will primarily be armed with anti-terrorist units in the state of Jammu and Kashmir, the situation in which has recently often been reduced to clashes. The ANI publication reports that AK-203 assault rifles were interested in Indian special forces because of their unpretentiousness and effectiveness in close combat. But at the same time India is going to automaton, as they say, "upgrade" in its own way.

According to the latest data, Kalashnikov 203 series machines in India will be manufactured at the Ameti district plant (Uttar Pradesh state). This is a Russian-Indian joint venture, a contract for the work of which was previously concluded by the two countries.

It is noted that the tender for the purchase of 93 thousands of AK-203 machines is placed under the “accelerated procedure”. At the same time, a representative of the military command of India said that the AK-203 will be tested "as a carbine."

From the statement:

We want to test the AK-203 as a carbine. We will also be able to completely remove the butt of the machine to reduce its size. This will allow secretly wearing a machine under the clothes for possible use against terrorists in the melee. This can be effective during close combat in a room setting.

It was added that the Indian side intends to make a "number of other changes" in the Russian plant at Uttar Pradesh. weapon. What exactly? - No data yet.

The commission, which deals with the issues of making changes in the design of AK-203, included representatives of the Indian Ministry of Defense and DRDO (Organization of Defense Research and Development). The project is implemented under the program "Make in India" ("Do in India").

Comments

[Victor_B]

And why are they robbing them in our Kalash?
Well, after all, everything is licked like a Faberge cat!
This is not just an operating experience, it is a global authority!

[YOUR]

The Jews have already stuck it so that there’s nowhere else to go. Vietnam buys them instead of our AK-12/15.

[Victor_B]

Theirs Galil is no longer much less than AKM.
And definitely more than the AK-74.
And yes. He was no worse than Kalash. Then.

[YOUR]

You are mistaken. You just did not follow this. Actually, like everyone else, including and I. Got info that Vietnam preferred our AK-12/15 galil. Leafed through. Galil ACE in calibres 5.56 * 45 NATO, 7,62 * 39 and 7.62 * 51 NATO
You can take a look here
https://modernfirearms.net/ru/avtomaty-shturmovye-vintovki/izrail-avtomaty-i-shturmovye-vintovk/galil-ace/

[Victor_B]

Wrong.

Well, explain to the people how such a non-licensed copy of Kalash can radically differ from the original?
Yes, the Jews have come up to quality copying. They essentially made the current AK-12/15 back then. But they removed from armaments a long time ago.
Found that the M-16/4 is better. Or free.

[YOUR]

Well, far from licensed. And you need to explain to the Vietnamese and Colombians how it differs. Why the Vietnamese disarm our Kalash and acquire the Israeli Galil ACE. The Tavor submachine gun manufactured by the same company IWI was adopted as the main model. They also send M16 / 4 to storage tanks. Or arm them with so-called messengers.

[Incvizitor]

We need to show them that his butt already folds, it does not need to be removed, they need an eye and an eye, otherwise they will think of cutting down the barrel, then there will be screams about "what a bad machine"

We want to test the AK-203 as a carbine. We can also completely remove the butt of the machine

I hope at least in the role of a carbine with a butt will be tested

[psiho117]

Quote: Victor_B

And why are they robbing them in our Kalash?
Well, after all, everything is licked like a Faberge cat!

Dumaetstsa that there will be minor "cosmetic" changes - such as a slotted DTK, adapted for firing a propeller. grenades, brackets, openers, and the like.
Be afraid, nobody will climb into kinematics

[DEDPIHTO]

But at the same time India is going to machines, as they say, "upgrade" in its own way.

Will they tie a turban?

[Victor_B]

Bells.
And garlands of flowers.

[DEDPIHTO]

On the covers of engraving receiver boxes with elephants and cows and from the Kama Sutra fragments

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Victor_B

Bells.
And garlands of flowers.

It will be the same .... only automatic

[Terenin]

It is noted that the tender for the purchase of 93 thousand AK-203 assault rifles is being placed under the “expedited procedure”.

I believe that Russia should be given the green light to this procedure. You can, as a bonus, apply a hacksaw for metal to the kit (well, the guys like to saw trunks with butts us what )

[steelmaker]

There is nothing to be allowed to scoff at their weapons. If they really want to let them do it in the quiet, without our consent. Only then let them not complain that the machine is of the wrong design.

[Victor_B]

Probably just some fake whistles will be attached, and most likely they will hang "picatinas" from all sides. Along and across!
For it is pointless to change anything inside.

[aszzz888]

We want to test the AK-203 as a carbine. We can also completely remove the butt of the machine to reduce its size. This will allow you to secretly carry a machine gun under clothing for possible use against terrorists in close combat

... that's cool)) purely indian approach! and if you don’t take him with you at all then he will be invisible , from the word ABSOLUTELY ...

[Mikhail3]

Well, why is it Indian? Many countries do this - they immediately remake weapons for the convenience of bandits, murderers and other generous regular customers, so that they can immediately sell them from arsenals. Nothing personal, just business.

[Altona]

If these "changes" are the same as when making their own automaton, then it would be better if they did nothing. Everything that the Indians do in small arms, did at least be accompanied by violations of technology. In this case, their weapons are their own INSAS system.

[rocket757]

To attach a tambourine or something else like that ???

[Graz]

First, the product will be spoiled, and then they will say that it’s bad, Indians what to take from them, if
they need hidden wearing without a butt, let them use submachine guns

[Mavrikiy]

We want to test the AK-203 as a carbine. We can also completely remove the butt of the machine,

"Yes, even a pot", ....... only prohibit export. For the difference in price ......

[svp67]

Something a lot is not clear ...

We want to test the AK-203 as a carbine.

Strange, but in the English-language military literature AK is different than an automatic carbine and is not called. They decided to refuse automatic fire

We can also completely remove the butt of the machine to reduce its size.

Strange decision. There is an AK-202 whose butt is developing, what's wrong with that?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: svp67

There is an AK-202

Sergey, a bit of a fix: under the 7,62X39 is the AK-204. 202 is NATO .223 Remington.

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Sergey, a bit of a fix: under the 7,62X39 is the AK-204. 202 is NATO .223 Remington.

Yes, I'm not talking about caliber, but about the fact that there is the AK design, where a full-fledged butt, if necessary, just folds to the side.

[bouncyhunter]

Correct me if I am mistaken: in the 100th and 200th series, the stocks are added for all models? Same as Galil ACE 2nd, 3rd and 5th series?

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Correct me if I am wrong: in the 100 and 200 series the stocks are added for all models?

Judging by what I saw, not everyone has it, there are also not folding

[bouncyhunter]

I, of course, do not work for the Kalashnikov concern, but all the resources available to me declare that they are all with folding ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Correct me if I am wrong: in the 100 and 200 series the stocks are added for all models?

Yes, everyone, but you can even remove it altogether.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Gray Brother

The 203rd also has a trunk shorter than the standard 10 cm

I do not agree: at the 203rd, the barrel is 415 mm as at the 200th or 201st. But the 204th trunk 314 mm.

[Gray brother]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I do not agree: at the 203rd, the barrel is 415 mm as at the 200th or 201st. But the 204th trunk 314 mm.

I mixed them up, bred Panimash Zoo.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Gray Brother

lit up the zoo

There is one, but the main thing to remember is which figure in the series corresponds to whom.

[Gray brother]

Quote: bouncyhunter

, but the main thing to remember is which figure in the series corresponds to whom.

Hindus probably clamped on the license and now they will saw the sawn-off shotgun)))
I assumed this simply.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Gray Brother

Hindus probably clamped on the license and now they will saw the sawn-off shotgun)))
I assumed this simply.

Well, the Chinese sawed (type 56ss), but why are the Indians worse?

[Simargl]

Quote: Gray Brother

Hindus probably clamped on the license and now they will saw the sawn-off shotgun)))

Maybe they think that vending machines are sold by meters ...

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I, of course, do not work for the Kalashnikov concern, but all the resources available to me declare that they are all with folding ...

Quote: Gray Brother

Yes, everyone

Well, show me the folding mechanisms on these samples ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: svp67

Well, show me the folding mechanisms on these samples ...

And on that collective farm that lies on the carpet too?
At home, by the way, no mechanisms can be seen, but it is taking shape.

[svp67]

Quote: Gray Brother

At home, by the way, no mechanisms can be seen, but it is taking shape.

Sorry, but if you do not see the "native" button of the folding mechanism, then this is your problem

[Gray brother]

Quote: svp67

Sorry, but if you do not see the "native" button of the folding mechanism, then this is your problem

So this is not him, but just nakolkhozhdeno.

[loki565]

And they didn’t hear about machine guns ??? Kalash will be redundant in the premises, and without the butt, accuracy will also disappear.

[Gray brother]

Quote: loki565

Kalash will be redundant in the premises, and without the butt, accuracy will also disappear.

Outside the premises, life also exists. And it has bulletproof vests and other things invented by a person like cars and just urban and industrial buildings where the PP significantly loses the machine due to a weaker cartridge.

[loki565]

The article deals with an attempt to modernize the Kalash for concealed wearing and police specials. operations. We use PP in such cases, and give the Indians free rein and they will saw off the SVD stock "for hidden wearing"

[Simargl]

Quote: loki565

Give the Hindus free rein and they will saw off the SVD butt "for concealed carrying"

OSV-96 or PTRS ...

[Incvizitor]

PP significantly loses to the machine due to a weaker cartridge

There is also a CP 3-ideal for such purposes.

When using special armor-piercing cartridges SP-6, the machine can successfully hit opponents in bulletproof vests of the 5th protection class at ranges up to 50 m, the 4th class - up to 120 m, the 3rd class - up to 200 m, the 2nd class - up to 300 m, the 1st class - up to 500 m. The small dimensions of the CP-3 contribute to discreet wearing

[Gray brother]

Quote: Incvizitor

There is also a CP 3-ideal for such purposes.

Armor-piercing cartridges can not always be used. Because of the rebounds in the first place.

[Incvizitor]

Well, even if you use the usual 9x39 cartridges, they are one of the most powerful for PP, even in melee bulletproof vests will not help and the stopping action will quickly disable opponents.

[evgic]

Mischievous Indian hand-shakers want to scratch playful little hands. And then they will scream that the Russians sold a bad machine.

[Gray brother]

Quote: evgic

And then they will scream that the Russians sold a bad machine.

The Russians sold them a plant, so let them blame themselves)))

[Izotovp]

They first upgrade, and then scream that the weapon is bad.

[Zaurbek]

And how will they shoot without a butt? What time?

[Ivan Zavadsky]

The bipods have forgotten! To shoot from an elephant was more convenient.

[Lieutenant Senior]

It is of course their business, what changes to make, but I don’t understand why? If the kit, then yes, but if something more serious, the question is, why?

[KCA]

India will issue AKs under license, do they have the right to make design changes? They’ll mess with the changes, and Russia will be to blame, it makes bad machines

[Incvizitor]

We can also completely remove the butt of the machine to reduce its size. This will allow covertly carrying an assault rifle under clothing for possible use against terrorists in close combat. This can be effective during close quarters indoors.

It was not easier then to buy a Whirlwind or VAL, no, they disfigure the AK and will howl afterwards that the "machine is bad"

[Alexex]

Butt to clean .. clear. Farther? Repair what works well? An interesting result can be obtained.

[g.wise]

Our Kalash will be upgraded so that it ceases to be one, and also ceases to shoot. And then these wretched Indians, ditching the machine gun, will set us the next requirements, as in SU-57.

[Afotin]

For some reason, it seems to me that Indians corny ruin a good thing.