Published shots test "Poseidon"

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The main military department of the Russian Federation published footage of tests of an underwater drone "Poseidon".

YouTube channel footage TASS





According to President Vladimir Putin, the first submarine with the Poseidon will be launched next spring.

The Ministry of Defense also noted the successful testing of the hypersonic Dagger missile system in difficult climatic conditions.

The report of the main defense department states that during the tests of the "Dagger", objects whose dimensions were comparable to the size of the car were identified as targets. At the same time, it was stated that the launches were carried out from a distance of about a thousand km from 1. And all the targets with a hypersonic missile system were successfully hit.

Recall that since December 2017, “Daggers” have been on combat duty in the Southern Military District of Russia. Hypersonic missile system, aviation the platform for which the MiG-31 long-range interceptor is capable of hitting targets, being beyond the reach of enemy aircraft radars. In modern combat, this can be a decisive advantage.

Today, in his message to the Federal Assembly, the Russian president recalled the defense breakthrough that was made in our country thanks to the talent and hard work of scientists, including, as Vladimir Putin put it, very young ones. Vladimir Putin mentioned the creation of the Avangard hypersonic strategic missile system, comparing its development with the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite.

In the Western media, they appreciated such a comparison, noting how much the President of the Russian Federation attaches to the improvement of security. Some saw in Putin’s words "a threat and readiness for a new aggression."
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  1. +3
    20 February 2019 17: 05
    and this in a stormy time ... impressive ...
    1. +9
      20 February 2019 17: 24
      What's the difference? It's an underwater vehicle.
      1. -5
        20 February 2019 17: 27
        Quote: new max
        What's the difference? It's an underwater vehicle.

        First you have to lower it into the water so that it becomes underwater ... and then the storm ... you know the difference?
        1. +8
          20 February 2019 17: 30
          I understand. You're talking about the test conditions. I'm talking about the fact that it will still be launched from a submarine.
          1. +5
            20 February 2019 18: 56
            Have you seen the torpedo cap? At the time of the release of the torpedo.
            Not just an "opening cover", but multi-sector. As revealed, this is no longer a mechanism, but a living being resembles
            good
            1. +10
              20 February 2019 21: 05
              I got the impression that this is not a torpedo tube cover and not a mechanism at all. The photo shows a red-white TPK and a black semicircular lid. Poseidon breaks it. By type, a rubber stopper on grenade launchers erupts.
          2. 0
            21 February 2019 00: 06
            Quote: new max
            I'm talking about the fact that it will still be launched from a submarine.

            And is Belgorod ready for the first nuclear submarine carrier? Or do you have in mind another submarine with TA per meter caliber for this drone?
        2. +9
          20 February 2019 17: 34
          Quote: NEXUS
          It must first be launched into the water so that it becomes underwater ... and

          You can see how he leaves the TPK under water. What do you want to launch into the water, I did not understand.
          1. 0
            21 February 2019 00: 00
            Quote: Gray Brother
            You can see how he leaves the TPK under water. What do you want to launch into the water, I did not understand.

            Are you sure that it was Poseidon, and not video editing? Initially, it was announced that Poseidon will be launched from the pier, since the carrier is stupid UNTIL READY.
            The caliber of Poseidon was voiced at least a meter ... show me at least one submarine we have, which has such a TA, wise guy.
            1. +1
              21 February 2019 01: 26
              "Sarov".
              1. +1
                21 February 2019 02: 17
                Quote: Horse, people and soul
                "Sarov".

                I don’t think it’s Sarov ... the length of Poseidon for this DEPL is too big ... and I’m not sure that it has such a caliber TA ...
                Factory sea trials of an uninhabited underwater vehicle with a Poseidon nuclear reactor will begin in the summer of 2019. He will "shoot at sea from the shore stand."
                1. +3
                  21 February 2019 07: 50
                  Maybe from the coastal stand, but the sailors in the video were clearly running inside the submarine, and there are pictures of Sarov on the Web with the lid of the only nasal TA of exactly this caliber open, clearly more than XNUMX meters.

                  There is one submarine with a TA of this caliber - and this is the experimental submarine "Sarov". The Poseidon's first combat boat, Putin said, will be launched this spring.
      2. -2
        20 February 2019 17: 47
        Quote: new max
        What's the difference? It's an underwater vehicle.

        An interesting underwater vehicle, probably its filling is even more interesting. I think at least 20-50 megatons request otherwise it makes no sense, and with such elevations he does not even need to go into territorial waters.
        1. 0
          20 February 2019 18: 10
          is it you by the color of the strips or by their width determined?
          1. +3
            20 February 2019 18: 28
            Vladimir Putin mentioned the creation of the Avangard hypersonic strategic missile system, comparing its development with the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite.

            An interesting comparison, the first satellite of the earth, was actually a test of the simulator of the first nuclear weapons and ICBMs and a message for the United States smile
            1. -5
              20 February 2019 18: 43
              so with strips of 20-50 megatons?
              in principle, this is progress, until recently, there were 100 everywhere laughing
              1. +1
                20 February 2019 18: 50
                Quote: Avior
                until recently, there were 100 everywhere

                Peaceful, I’m scared to say it out loud.
                1. +4
                  20 February 2019 20: 00
                  So far, nothing is clear to the general. About 100 megatons there is no information anywhere, only the chatter in the comments, as well as about 25 and about 200. There is official information only about 2 megatons. Further: it’s not clear with the number of such torpedoes on the submarine, it seems to be the only one. Further, it is not yet clear, but not too expensive, because you need to build a submarine for each torpedo? But isn’t it better to use an ordinary nuclear submarine with 16 missiles of 6 warheads each, totaling 96 charges?
                  1. +1
                    20 February 2019 20: 18
                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    incomprehension with the number of such torpedoes on the submarine, like one in all.

                    Four boats with eight vehicles on each (So now several publications report with reference to the Moscow Region).
                  2. -1
                    21 February 2019 01: 28
                    One such torpedo with 100 megatons on each US coast. One to the west. One to the east. And one to Alaska.

                    And that’s it. America can be closed.
                  3. 0
                    21 February 2019 14: 09
                    It may be better, but the United States and its henchmen need something to shake things up! soldier
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  2. 0
    20 February 2019 17: 06
    Tactical actions are correct. Chess World Party. . .
  3. -1
    20 February 2019 17: 08
    If all that is shown is true, then this is a big horror story for mattresses and their mongrel.
    1. +3
      20 February 2019 17: 10
      Quote: Borik
      If all that is shown is true, then this is a big horror story for mattresses and their mongrel.

      This is not a stashilka, but a real vaccine against the democratization of the staff.
      1. +1
        20 February 2019 17: 22
        Let's hope this toy knocks them off.
        1. +6
          20 February 2019 17: 23
          Quote: Borik
          Let's hope this toy knocks them off.

          And she is not alone ... these new complexes give our children the opportunity to live without knowing the war and all that is happening in Ukraine.
          1. +5
            20 February 2019 17: 32
            Quote: NEXUS
            And she is not alone ... these new complexes give our children the opportunity to live without knowing the war and all that is happening in Ukraine.

            Somehow "Ksyusha Sobchak" will come to power in Russia, the partners will give her money and pour everything out! Everything will be covered in chocolate ...
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              1. +7
                20 February 2019 17: 45
                Quote: nikolai.kolya
                .It's time to let go of free swimming

                Here, the effect of a snowball can happen ... Just give an excuse ... And away we go .. Avalanche ... Local princes and khans will break to power.
                1. -1
                  20 February 2019 17: 49
                  that's for sure did not think good
                  there is a "Siberian People's Republic" and a kirdyk ....
                2. +1
                  20 February 2019 20: 39
                  They are already in power
              2. NKT
                +11
                20 February 2019 18: 18
                In 1996 they already released ... and then they had kidnapping, terrorist acts, banditry in the border areas, etc. ...... then - the invasion of Dagestan.
            2. +1
              20 February 2019 18: 36
              I think that after GDP the uncle will come to power stricter than the current one. But not pig-carnival.
              1. 0
                20 February 2019 19: 07
                It is safe to say that the next king will be Hairy (according to the theory of M. Zadornov).
                And in practice, after Alesandrov the Third, Nicholas II usually appear. So the arrival of "Ksyusha" is quite likely.
                1. +4
                  20 February 2019 19: 32
                  That's just Alexander the Third now I do not see. From the strength of Paul, nothing more.
        2. 0
          21 February 2019 01: 31
          It will never end unless someone decides to apply. Then all.
      2. -2
        20 February 2019 17: 25
        Vaccination of the whole World from the USA.
    2. -4
      20 February 2019 18: 11
      no, it's just a way to help the military get money out of congress
      1. +1
        20 February 2019 20: 44
        Quote: Avior
        it's just a way to help the military get money out of congress

        OUR military from THEIR Congress? request Although ... what the hell is not joking. wassat
        1. +2
          20 February 2019 23: 33
          their military from their congress.
          they need horror stories, otherwise they won’t give money
  4. -2
    20 February 2019 17: 09
    I would not publish. Suddenly the adversary will pick up some important info
    1. +2
      20 February 2019 20: 25
      And what do we see in the video? As soon as a product comes out of some hole, all in bubbles and green light, which strongly resembles the upper drum of a steam boiler DKVR-16. Well, they see the same thing. laughing
      1. +3
        20 February 2019 20: 43
        And what do we see in the video? Only as a product comes out of a hole, all in bubbles and green light

        Godzila?
        1. 0
          20 February 2019 20: 56
          Quote: Kharkov
          Godzila?

          That would be a good name. It seems to me a more concrete, promising and revealing essence of the subject. laughing
          1. -2
            20 February 2019 23: 03
            But Nerutsk)
        2. -1
          21 February 2019 12: 51
          Quote: Kharkov
          And what do we see in the video? Only as a product comes out of a hole, all in bubbles and green light

          Godzila?

          Godzila. The Japanese have already guessed. laughing
          1. 0
            21 February 2019 17: 46
            Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
            Quote: Kharkov
            And what do we see in the video? Only as a product comes out of a hole, all in bubbles and green light

            Godzila?

            Godzila. The Japanese have already guessed. laughing

            As I understand it, the Japanese set me a minus. laughing
  5. -1
    20 February 2019 17: 10
    Where are the minuses Trolls and traitors? smile
    1. +5
      20 February 2019 17: 27
      I'm shocked! I won’t leave yet ...
    2. 0
      20 February 2019 17: 34
      Quote: Wolf
      Where are the minuses Trolls and traitors? smile

      Especially for the Professor, we can say that we have weapons - unparalleled in the world!
      1. +1
        20 February 2019 17: 54
        Not one ... winked There is a lot for anyone to say!
  6. +9
    20 February 2019 17: 13
    sure Americans can't understand .. what's going on? as? where from? the country was robbed. devastated by the fifth column, all the secrets, brains, achievements of the military-industrial complex .. everything was stolen and taken out.
    - So what. we can again say the United States as in the days of the Union, do not spoil us!
    1. -3
      20 February 2019 17: 18
      SS 18 Satan, it was from the time of Ivan the Great (formidable) no from the Union! Ivan sent them a good letter! ;)
      1. 0
        20 February 2019 17: 19
        And there is not only a letter but also rammed them properly! wink
        1. +2
          20 February 2019 17: 27
          The Dagger was especially pleased with its accuracy. In fact, it is a compact airborne ballistic missile with a speed of 12 max.
    2. +5
      20 February 2019 17: 24
      Quote: SS-18 Satan
      busted by the fifth column

      5 column is still here. Take a look at the cons ... yeah
      1. +9
        20 February 2019 17: 25
        Spit it! The news is super! Mourning at the column ...
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          1. Sky
            +3
            20 February 2019 20: 29
            "Delirium about the allegedly divided people and power" - of course delirium, they have long merged in ecstasy. True, this continues for a short time after the demonstration of the next novelties of our military-industrial complex, then the people again recall with resentment about the pension genocide, the ungrateful people.
      2. +7
        20 February 2019 17: 28
        yes .. see) "friends" are here.
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      4. -2
        21 February 2019 01: 33
        There is no 5th column. There is a line of bad boys for barrels of jam and boxes of cookies in the bourgeois embassy of the United States.
        1. 0
          21 February 2019 19: 11
          Judging by the number of minuses - there are two of them!

          laughing
  7. +7
    20 February 2019 17: 17
    ".... Some saw in Putin's words" a threat and readiness to the new aggression ". ...."
    =========
    Not understood.... "new"this is HOW ??? And where is"old"??? request
    1. +2
      20 February 2019 17: 50
      Quote: venik
      "New" is HOW ???

      Just bourgeois do not like when they are reminded of exterminatus. They usually think that since they are so fat and rich, they have the right to command and rule the world, and all factors that can prevent them are purely hypothetical because nothing can compare with the power of Western civilization - so what, you think, some Russians there there are some rusty missiles, but everyone forgot about them a long time ago. Is this a threat?
      And then they bring a hot rod to the priest and they feel the heat. And before, there was no heat, they got used to the temperature because, but here there is heat - it means a new threat.
  8. +1
    20 February 2019 17: 18
    get Kuz'kin mother-2 and sign ... there will be no Russia, there will be no rest of the world ...
  9. +4
    20 February 2019 17: 19
    ,,, there is still no one jumped out of the window with a cry winked ?
    1. +2
      20 February 2019 17: 23
      I don’t know about this! But the keyboard is definitely not alone on the wall scattered! Not a single minuser - the all-crawler is not visible! Awww ...
      1. +1
        20 February 2019 17: 25
        ,, yes I'm not talking about ours, and those for ,, puddle laughing Hundreds of experts are probably studying videos.
        1. -2
          20 February 2019 17: 32
          And this is called late to drink Borjomi ... It amazes me how it is not one of "ours" that has not flooded everything with tears here ?! laughing
          1. +5
            20 February 2019 17: 36
            Cheslav Tsursky
            Today, 18: 32

            You will see, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, in the opinion or analyst heading, there will be articles refuting this video.
            1. 0
              20 February 2019 17: 47
              Today, one guy wrote that they, including the encrypted daughters of officers, have long been flooded from all non-left sites! So, let them even come out with malice here! The news is really great! Today, Putin correctly compared Vanguard as an event with the launch of the first satellite! So Poseidon is not alone with us! smile
              Hi, Halado! Should we be sad?
    2. +4
      20 February 2019 18: 06
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, there is still no one jumped out of the window with a cry winked ?

      Yes, they just woke up, they only have 10 in the morning, in the evening, when they realize, they will start throwing themselves out. But our English-speaking friends watched with interest the message of Putin FS on RT and here is their reaction, several (translations):

      Jozef ciszewski
      Mr. President Putin, can you rule all of Europe as president of this crumbling continent? We need your help.


      SKViking
      wow, what a speech. This is a great man. I am impressed and I always loved him from the very beginning. Bravo


      dafe Akpos
      Putin is the boss of the bosses. This man has a big heart for his people. Time for a leader to resist counterfeit use and impose His will on us. God bless Putin and his family.


      mike monzerat
      the most powerful man in the world


      Maureen callahan
      As far as I know, Putin can rule the whole world. Go Putin !!!


      There are also negative reviews, but they all sit and look at what he will say! ...... to wait for the evening and throw himself out (joke!) laughing
      1. -2
        20 February 2019 19: 11
        NATO commented on Putin’s message to the Federal Assembly. They have not jumped out yet, but they are already grunting and squealing. Discussion on the next branch.
        https://topwar.ru/154373-v-nato-prokommentirovali-poslanie-putina-federalnomu-sobraniju.html
  10. -1
    20 February 2019 17: 26
    As I understand it, it’s on the back of the boat. So in such a way, when you need to dofig something to adapt to carry them, at least weld them to the bottom of the seiner and let them guess that this is not a peaceful harvester.
  11. -2
    20 February 2019 17: 29
    Che? These 2 seconds do not understand why is crawling out of the submarine - is this Poseidon's test? That is, in their opinion, it is "to show the tests"? laughing
    1. +4
      20 February 2019 17: 33
      And what is needed and the performance characteristics will give and control? smile
      1. -3
        20 February 2019 17: 37
        I wrote about the performance characteristics and management? Or have forgotten how to read in the pursuit of cheers-praise?
        1. -1
          20 February 2019 17: 54
          Quote: Renat
          Or have forgotten how to read in the pursuit of cheers-praise?

          You didn’t get there !!! You to Navalny, he loves these.
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            1. -1
              20 February 2019 18: 06
              Quote: Renat

              it’s you in the wrong steppe oppression.

              I don’t need to bend into your steppe, everything is already obvious. laughing
            2. -4
              20 February 2019 18: 40
              We do not need your "steppe" - because there is a swamp with a bog, disguised as a green meadow.
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    2. +6
      20 February 2019 17: 35
      Quote: Renat
      Che? These 2 seconds do not understand why is crawling out of the submarine - is this Poseidon's test? That is, in their opinion, it is "to show the tests"? laughing

      These are all Putin cartoons. Relax and forget.
    3. +2
      20 February 2019 17: 36
      Quote: Renat
      Che? These 2 seconds do not understand why is crawling out of the submarine - is this Poseidon's test? That is, in their opinion, it is "to show the tests"? laughing

      Yes, okay, don't take MO for "weak"! laughing
      1. -2
        20 February 2019 17: 38
        I look forward to continuing - another two seconds at least laughing
        1. -2
          21 February 2019 01: 35
          This will be the last two seconds of the United States.

          laughing
    4. 0
      20 February 2019 17: 53
      Quote: Renat
      That is, in their opinion, it is "to show the tests"?

      I understand that you are a "major" specialist? Well, explain to us what should have been shown.
      1. +4
        20 February 2019 17: 57
        To show the test is not to show the exit from the pipe of something. Or from the hatch. This show the test. And not two seconds. I remember when a video was published on the site with a rocket launched by Ukrainian rocket launchers - just a start, so here a hundred people unanimously scribbled in the comments - what about where is the video of the flight and hitting the target? Like all this bullshit is complete. Do you remember? So why then your complaints to me?
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              1. +5
                20 February 2019 18: 11
                Who is the only person switching to the personality? Trolls. But the answer is - served. In the FSB PV. On the border ship, project 10410. In the Far East, in Nevelsk. Radiometer. Petty Officer 2 articles. And now all the best.
                1. -2
                  21 February 2019 13: 32
                  Quote: Renat
                  Who is the only person switching to the personality? Trolls. But the answer is - served. In the FSB PV. On the border ship, project 10410. In the Far East, in Nevelsk. Radiometer. Petty Officer 2 articles. And now all the best.

                  You're lying all. You are from Ukraine. Here is such a passage in your comment
                  Quote: from Renate's comment
                  I remember when a video was published on the site with a rocket launched by Ukrainian rocket launchers - just a start, so here a hundred people unanimously scribbled in the comments - what about where is the video of the flight and hitting the target?

                  foreman 2 articles from Nevelsk will not write. But a Ukrainian with an itchy resentment against Russia will write just that. So stop pretending to be.
                  1. -1
                    21 February 2019 17: 39
                    First do not be rude to me. Secondly, serving once on Sakhalin does not mean that I am writing from there now. For I do not live there. And thirdly, if I mentioned Ukraine as an example, this does not mean that I am also Ukrainian. And fourth, write an opinion on the article, not about commentators.
        2. +1
          20 February 2019 19: 40
          Show test is

          What to show you?
          50MT explosion?
          Are you sure you want to?
          1. +2
            20 February 2019 20: 36
            Well, at least how this thing moves, underwater. Of course, I understand sectarianism there and all that. But still I want to see more than 2 seconds)
            1. +2
              21 February 2019 12: 08
              Well, at least how this thing moves, underwater.

              I knew a man who foolishly took a picture of a submarine screw in the 80s.
              He didn’t even show it to anyone, not just put it in the media, but his life changed dramatically after that .....

              So boys, it's better to watch cartoons.
              1. 0
                25 February 2019 18: 29
                Yes, the shape of the blades has always been a secret.
  12. -1
    20 February 2019 17: 30
    I looked straight .... Beautiful. And for what reason is the green backlight? Interesting.
  13. +1
    20 February 2019 17: 32
    something recently stopped seeing comments that these are cartoons. As far as I remember, especially smart guys from Israel showed special zeal.
    1. -2
      20 February 2019 17: 36
      Quote: vitvit123

      something recently stopped seeing comments that these are cartoons.

      I already unsubscribed a little higher)))
  14. -2
    20 February 2019 17: 34
    And some: cartoons, cartoons ... Well, gentlemen, is it time for diapers? laughing tongue wassat
  15. +1
    20 February 2019 17: 35
    Quote: Renat
    Che? These 2 seconds do not understand why is crawling out of the submarine - is this Poseidon's test? That is, in their opinion, it is "to show the tests"? laughing



    This is not from the boat, this is from the stand ...
    1. -1
      20 February 2019 18: 28
      Perhaps they don’t want to show that there is a screw or .... to allow to determine the characteristics ... wait ...
  16. -8
    20 February 2019 17: 47
    that's what you need for happiness !!!!
    grandfather Vova we are with you
    lead us into battle !!!!!!
    cheers, comrades !!!!
    1. -2
      20 February 2019 17: 50
      When the battle is inevitable then it is necessary to fight and how it is necessary. wink Uraaaaa trolls can’t save you anything! wink
      1. -2
        20 February 2019 17: 52
        I agree 100%
        1. +1
          20 February 2019 17: 59
          Yes, here they are all-crawlers - in place! Quiet ones ... laughing Do you think you can compensate for the disadvantages with your Poseidon and Vanguard ?! Do you collect stamps? Well go stick them somewhere. Nothing shines here for you!
          1. -4
            20 February 2019 18: 01
            such cool news, and you are crap ...
            hold plus and calm down drinks
    2. -2
      20 February 2019 21: 12
      Quote: nikolai.kolya

      that's what you need for happiness !!!!
      grandfather Vova we are with you
      lead us into battle !!!!!!
      cheers, comrades !!!!

      Once I was in a taxi. The taxi driver, a young guy, said he was ready to die for Putin. I asked why. Answer: "Putin promised that in two years everything will be fine in the country. And I have to repay 50000 rubles in loans every month."
  17. -1
    20 February 2019 18: 27
    I wonder how this Poseidon will get in touch, at a kilometer depth? Can it pop up at a certain time? Or launched, wrapped in a white sheet and forgot? what
    Or did he launch it when there was a message about an attack by the enemy’s strategic nuclear forces? In a week, the mattresses will receive a gift, when in theory the world should already be in ruins? negative
    1. 0
      20 February 2019 18: 43
      And this secret technology is classified. We look forward to showing the test of RCC Zircon.
      1. +3
        20 February 2019 20: 10
        Look at what an interesting topic! Testing Russian weapons that have no analogues in the world! And ... There are absolutely no regulars on this site of fighters - revolutionaries. So a couple of people lit up. And look how many minuses you told people discussing this news, which is absolutely joyful for any citizen of Russia ?! Halado was right in saying. that sometimes there is a feeling that you are in the enemy rear of Russian haters and terry Russophobes!
        1. 0
          21 February 2019 17: 43
          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          ... And look how many minuses you told people discussing this news, which is absolutely joyful for any citizen of Russia ?! Halado was right in saying. that sometimes there is a feeling that you are in the enemy rear of Russian haters and terry Russophobes!

          You should have entered the studio of the Silver Rain TV channel or the Echo of Moscow radio station ... What can you expect from the Internet ?!
          I like to go to an ordinary men's bath. There is never a feeling that you are in the enemy rear of the haters of Russia. You listen to the talk of men in the bathhouse and you understand that everything is fine. Russia remains Russia, and it will remain. And there is someone to stand up for the Motherland.
    2. +1
      20 February 2019 22: 01
      Quote: Stils
      I wonder how this Poseidon will get in touch, at a kilometer depth?

      Why should he get in touch, like Eustace Alex, or what? The radio operator Kat will be put inside and periodically she will pop up with a scuba gear. laughing
      1. -1
        20 February 2019 22: 42
        So is it a torpedo or something like that? Launched and forgot? Went to dig yourself a grave? laughing
  18. 0
    20 February 2019 18: 31
    No tests, of course, were shown.
    and if, with a range of travel, in principle, it is quite acceptable, small-sized rectors existed completely, then with a control system, it was completely silent.
    and it is precisely in it that there is a huge problem - control systems for underwater vehicles with declared characteristics have not yet existed in history.
    and not a word about her trials, they pretend that this is some kind of trifling matter.
    1. +1
      20 February 2019 18: 45
      With the Vanguard control system - the same thing no one saw her and does not know how she works - but she is and works.
      1. +1
        20 February 2019 18: 47
        Firstly, the fact that it exists and works is no evidence of this.
        secondly, there is nothing fundamentally new in it. The snowstorm was automatically planted, albeit with concrete jambs.
        but about underwater vehicles with declared capabilities, no one has ever heard of ....
        1. 0
          20 February 2019 21: 24
          That there are individual warheads and they work - is there no evidence?
          1. 0
            20 February 2019 23: 03
            there is. but this has nothing to do with the declared capabilities of the Vanguard.
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    2. +2
      20 February 2019 19: 22
      Quote: Avior
      and it is precisely in it that there is a huge problem - control systems for underwater vehicles with declared characteristics have not yet existed in history.
      and not a word about her trials, they pretend that this is some kind of trifling matter.

      Well, why, let's say it is robotic with a pre-set program, the position is determined by pre-prepared bottom echolocation cards, remote control, commands, guidance, by means of the ELF Zeus transponder.
      1. +2
        20 February 2019 19: 55
        Then it needs a towed antenna of 1.5 km and a depth of immersion of not more than 100 m to receive a signal.
      2. 0
        20 February 2019 23: 02
        you can assume anything, even aliens, but really nothing like this has ever happened and there is no evidence that there is. and even messages about it.
  19. -1
    20 February 2019 18: 56
    Ordinary logic, if true, we would be stuck with on all channels. And wait: Putin, Putin, Putin, gave birth to a koala, these are the news from all the channels’s channels (I corrected it a little bit, as well as from gum)
  20. +1
    20 February 2019 18: 56
    Quote: Avior
    Firstly, the fact that it exists and works is no evidence of this.
    secondly, there is nothing fundamentally new in it. The snowstorm was automatically planted, albeit with concrete jambs.
    but about underwater vehicles with declared capabilities, no one has ever heard of ....



    From this place in more detail: what jambs and what, if Buran sat himself under the control of the SU processor?
    1. -4
      20 February 2019 19: 04
      Buran from behind a jamb of automation got on a strip in the opposite direction, almost by a miracle.
      there were other problems in flight.
      1. +1
        20 February 2019 19: 41
        Quote: Avior
        Buran from behind a jamb of automation got on a strip in the opposite direction, almost by a miracle.

        And where did you get the idea that it was a jamb, not a computer?
        1. 0
          20 February 2019 23: 58
          got on a strip in the opposite direction

          this is in any case a jamb, but because of a malfunction in the computer or algorithm, the second question.
          1. 0
            21 February 2019 13: 28
            Quote: Avior
            this is in any case a jamb, but because of a malfunction in the computer or algorithm, the second question.

            I doubt that there was some kind of failure, or a jamb. Painfully well, he landed.
            Later, analyzing the landing of the Buran, experts came to the conclusion: the automated control system chose the best solution. The regular landing was prevented by a strong wind, and the automated control system independently calculated a new trajectory.
            https://stimul.online/articles/science-and-technology/buran-triumf-i-tragediya/
            However, it is better to ask Michman as a developer of Buran landing systems.
            1. -1
              22 February 2019 18: 09
              I read this explanation.
              if the algorithm did not work as intended, then this is a jamb.
              it’s good that it ended well.
              but if you know retroactively how your system works, then you cannot consider it reliable
  21. +4
    20 February 2019 19: 25
    Quote: Avior
    so with strips of 20-50 megatons?
    in principle, this is progress, until recently, there were 100 everywhere laughing

    Sergei! Power BG "Poseidon" shakes like a g ... in an ice hole. Expert Leontkov EMNIP decided to surpass everyone. He said that he will have 200 tons of BG. At the same time, everyone who writes about high capacities forget about one fact. Military NEVER will not adopt a charge that I FAILED tests. Therefore, the figures of 100 or 200 megatons - from the evil one. 20-30 megatons is closer to reality, but do not forget about the weight of such products. When charges of a multi-megaton class are usually taken for the calculation factor from 2 to 4. That is, a 50-megaton charge will weigh from 12 to 25 tons. Accordingly, the 20-megaton - from 5 to 10 tons.

    Quote: Borik
    If all that is shown is true, then this is a big horror story for mattresses and their mongrel.

    Actually, in the 30 second clip, more attention is paid to the submarine compartment and the night crown with waves. The very exit of "Poseidon" from TPK - 2-3 seconds. And it's not a fact that all three mini-plots were filmed at the same time. The "exit" from the Poseidon TA could well have been filmed on a submerged stand. And judging by the fact that it is visible - either a powerful side illumination, or shooting during the day with a fortified camera ...

    Quote: Renat
    Che? These 2 seconds do not understand why is crawling out of the submarine - is this Poseidon's test? That is, in their opinion, it is "to show the tests"?

    The test, Renat, but not the ones everyone dreams of here. This is roughly the same as the throw test for ICBMs. Just watched how the product comes out of the container. Moreover, the shooting was a high-speed camera. Such surveys in the process of conducting research, development work, and testing are commonplace.
    1. 0
      20 February 2019 20: 03
      And no one will tell you about the size of the Poseidon ???? like diameter1. 5-1.6 meters and a length of 24, if you judge that this is a continuation of status 6? Then a couple of questions. Which boat has that diameter? Before that they said that he was attached from the outside, and now the exit from the building is shown? recourse not clear however request
    2. 0
      21 February 2019 00: 16
      The military will NEVER adopt a charge that has not passed the test.

      I personally am 100 percent sure that they will use some of the existing and spent in the production and storage of charges.
      that is, a maximum of 8 or 20 mt from the R-36 in a monoblock version, and then if they really are.
      but in fact I have huge doubts that they will use charges of such power.
      I proceed from the fact that if such charges made sense from a technical point of view, we would have long ago designed rockets for such charges. but in reality, instead of one large charge, they have long preferred a slightly lower power - they have much more damage.
      Therefore, I personally believe that there will not be charges there for more than 1 mt. Well, as a last resort, 8 mt, and even then it is doubtful
      this is enough to destroy a naval base.
  22. +1
    20 February 2019 19: 32
    horror how scary!. the truth is not clear.
  23. -1
    20 February 2019 19: 43
    What kind of heresy have to discuss? To mere mortals, it makes no difference at all all these Poseidons, etc. .. If something starts, generally on the drum, from which weapons everyone will die out. It's time to go down to earth and think about something mundane. For example, about the RFP and Pensions. Here it is, reality! Everything else, beautiful pictures, not having any relation to reality! The world, has long been ruled by the economy and not weapons. In general, it is strange to discuss this in the 21st century, when everything in general is already obvious.
    1. +1
      20 February 2019 20: 16
      Quote: GibSoN
      To mere mortals, it makes no difference at all all these Poseidons, etc. .. If something starts, generally along the drum, from which weapons will everyone die out

      Poseidon - precisely so that "nothing begins." Weapons of containment, have you heard of that? wink

      Quote: GibSoN
      What kind of heresy is it necessary to discuss? ... For example, on salary and pensions

      You are on VO, just a minute. On the site that came out on top somewhere out there ... I forgot. But Poseidon is definitely closer to the body here than "ZP and Pensions".

      Quote: GibSoN
      In general, it is strange to discuss this in the 21st century, when everything in general is already obvious

      Troll ... eat hotstsa, and then some kind of Poseidons ... inedible. Sorry for the little animal crying
    2. -2
      20 February 2019 20: 51
      Quote: GibSoN
      It's time to go down to earth and think about something mundane. For example, about the RFP and Pensions. Here it is, reality!

      And you remember the times of Yeltsin, when "Western partners" ruled the country, what were the pensions? And what about medicine? What about education? And to what horror did the life of military families go? In the military unit where I worked, the warrant officers did not eat anything for four days. And this is in Moscow!
      So we look at Poseidon as another guarantee that these times will not return and that our Western partners will remain behind a puddle and will not interfere with our economic recovery.
      Quote: GibSoN
      For example, about the RFP and Pensions. This is reality

      This is on other sites, but here the bombs are being discussed. The site is like that. hi
      1. 0
        20 February 2019 20: 55
        Do you remember the times of Yeltsin, when "Western partners" ruled the country
        And then Ostap suffered ... Let's not ?! I don't just still remember! But I can compare perfectly .. Let's just say. Quite a controversial question, at what time, "Western partners" ruled the country more. As a matter of principle, I will not even discuss such a populist topic in "certain circles". You remind me of Kiselyov-Solovyov, whom, in general, more than one sane person does not even know))
        1. 0
          20 February 2019 21: 26
          Quote: GibSoN
          I don’t just still remember! But I can perfectly compare ..

          Well, well ...

          Quote: GibSoN
          Quite a controversial question, at what time, "Western partners" ruled the country more

          Got it. "Everything is so ambiguous here" (c).

          Quote: GibSoN
          From the principle I will not even discuss

          Oh, how ... but what about - "I can compare perfectly"? The daughter of a Crimean officer, no way?

          Quote: GibSoN
          not one sane person

          You yourself started very right. About the alternative. Gifted Yes

          Quote: GibSoN
          I write an alternative opinion

          In-in.
      2. -1
        20 February 2019 21: 13
        Quote: Shepherd
        And you remember the times of Yeltsin, when "Western partners" ruled the country, what were the pensions? And what about medicine? What about education? And to what horror did the life of military families go? In the military unit where I worked, the warrant officers did not eat anything for four days. And this is in Moscow!
        So we look at Poseidon as another guarantee that these times will not return and that our Western partners will remain behind a puddle and will not interfere with our economic recovery.

        Yelling into the voice! History does not teach you anything)))) The USSR had such armed forces, such a fleet, such aviation, such rockets! And all this power did not save the country from collapse. So why connect the hopes for the future of the country with some kind of prodigy? Do you really think that it makes sense to conquer Russia when they are already ready to sell anything at a reasonable price?
        1. -1
          20 February 2019 22: 04
          Quote: sabotage
          The USSR had such armed forces, such a fleet, such aviation, such missiles! And all this power did not save the country from collapse.

          It is not the fault of the aviation, army and navy that the country has collapsed. They fulfilled their task - no one dared to conquer us by force, no one carried out "humanitarian" bombings, no one dared to speak to us "through the lip."
          If a warrior died of a cold, can his armor be blamed for this?
          Quote: sabotage
          ready to sell anything at a reasonable price?

          Under Yeltsin, almost nothing went to the treasury under oil contracts. Khodorkovsky drove abroad oil under the guise of well fluid. Putin corrected the situation, and the budget began to fill up. What do you think: what would have awaited us for this insolence if we had not had a nuclear triad? Whose fate would we repeat - Libya, Iraq, Syria?
          No, Dmitry, in a conversation with these people when determining a "fair" price, it is very useful to have a big stick on hand. You look and the price will really be similar.
          Quote: sabotage
          anything

          You really don’t think so?
          1. 0
            21 February 2019 20: 26
            Quote: Shepherd

            It is not the fault of the aviation, army and navy that the country has collapsed. They fulfilled their task - no one dared to conquer us by force, no one carried out "humanitarian" bombings, no one dared to speak to us "through the lip."

            The Americans looked at how the Russians were shooting down their parliament, how they were bombing on the lunar Grozny, cutting ships for metal and taking the GSVG to a clean field. Well, why bomb them? It is not a matter of power, but a lack of need.
            Quote: Shepherd
            Putin corrected the situation, and the budget began to fill up.

            The budget really began to fill up when the tax began to work in the mid-90s. Inflation until then was awful since budget revenues were only from a printing press. I also recommend studying the work of the Primakov-Maslyukov government. It is better to study these questions on statistical reference books, rather than on agitation.
            Quote: Shepherd
            No, Dmitry, in a conversation with these people when determining a "fair" price, it is very useful to have a big stick on hand. You look and the price will really be similar.

            Reminded a joke: Man, buy a crowbar!
            And then the Russians wonder why they are considered aggressive barbarians and are afraid!

            Quote: Shepherd
            You really don’t think so?

            Absolutely, and who believes that he has something sacred - this or that crazy idealist like me, or an unnecessary rogue to no one.
            1. +1
              21 February 2019 21: 58
              Quote: sabotage
              Well, why bomb them? It is not a matter of power, but a lack of need.

              Maybe, but this is before Putin forced Western firms to review oil contracts. For an Iranian democratic president, it’s just such a fortress was expensive.
              Quote: sabotage
              The budget really began to fill up when the tax began to work in the mid-90s.

              Here is a retrospective of budget expenditures: 1996 - 437250 million rubles; 1997 - 529765; 1998 - 499945; 1999 - 575046; 2000-1014196; 2001 - 1193482; 2002 - 1947386. Well, and so on. This does not cancel your remark, but it does not contradict mine either. (Except for one, Primakov headed the government for only 8 months in 1998, and he could not influence the budget filling before this time).
              Quote: sabotage
              And then the Russians wonder why they are considered aggressive barbarians.

              Well, that's not surprising. We are always barbarians to the West. Only one thing varies - "peaceful", as under Yeltsin, or "aggressive", as under Putin.
              Well them, they are not fixable. For me, it's better to be a man with a crowbar than a servant in an embroidered shirt.
              Quote: sabotage
              and who believes that he has something sacred - this or a crazy idealist like me, or an unnecessary rogue to anyone.

              Amen. good
    3. -1
      20 February 2019 21: 22
      Quote: GibSoN
      If something starts, generally on the drum, from what weapons everyone will die out.

      Are you sure everyone will die out?
      Are you sure that the first strike will not destroy all the carriers of nuclear weapons, and the remnants of the intercepted missile defense?
      As for Poseidon, I'm not sure if it will be impossible to intercept (shoot down). Also, I'm not sure that we need it at all, why, if there are "non-intercepted" Vanguards and Sarmatians? Isn't it better to build a dozen ships for the fleet? They are almost gone ...
  24. -1
    20 February 2019 20: 32
    What did they show? Understood nothing. I guess I'm too stupid.
  25. +1
    20 February 2019 21: 05
    Quote: Shurik70
    Have you seen the torpedo cap? At the time of the release of the torpedo.
    Not just an "opening cover", but multi-sector. As revealed, this is no longer a mechanism, but a living being resembles
    good

    Yes, fascinating.
  26. +1
    20 February 2019 22: 18
    Release the Kraken
  27. +2
    20 February 2019 22: 23
    "I see means I believe", - said the ancient Romans. Well, and when you want to believe, you will see whatever you want ... lol
    1. +1
      21 February 2019 00: 10
      Quote: whowhy
      "I see means I believe", - said the ancient Romans. Well, when you want to believe, then you will see everything you want ...

      I guess you have the same virus as mine. It is possible that this video is only open to people with a suitable IQ. So yours is inappropriate.
  28. 0
    20 February 2019 22: 29
    It looks like the air has been pushed. The exhaust system is being worked out. Poseidon is not yet visible.
  29. +2
    20 February 2019 23: 37
    The main military department of the Russian Federation has published test shots of the Poseidon underwater UAV.
    It was a joke?!
    Maybe I have a virus on my computer, but when I watched this video I saw ..... some!
    I didn’t have test frames on the screen, but a crap out of my mind.
    Maybe one of the sane people can explain to me specifically what he personally saw.
  30. +1
    21 February 2019 00: 20
    Quote: NEXUS
    show me at least one submarine with us that has such a TA

    "Sarov"
  31. -2
    21 February 2019 01: 23
    Poseidon, it turns out, in a transport and launch container. The video breaks the lid and ...

    ... should have been called "Poseidon" and "Goodbye". And "Vanguard" - "Hello".

    To say hello to America and close America, as Zadornov suggested.

    laughing
  32. -1
    21 February 2019 13: 49
    Quote: Avior
    Buran from behind a jamb of automation got on a strip in the opposite direction, almost by a miracle.
    there were other problems in flight.



    There was a strong crosswind and the computer turned Buran to minimize drift from the landing strip. This is automation, Karl, she has no emotions ...
  33. 0
    21 February 2019 15: 13
    I wonder if he launched it, is that all? Slam without options? After all, do not send a command to refuse or self-destruction to the depths?