The planes do not fly, the weapon hits the target. Not the Bundeswehr, but the Olsen gang

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The popular American edition of Politico has published Article “Once upon a time, the powerful Bundeswehr begins to resemble the Olsen gang,” dedicated to the state of the German military. It is worth recalling that the Olsen gang is a fictional Danish criminal gang, about which the comedy series was filmed. Gang members are completely harmless, never resort to violence and constantly fall into comic situations. Thus, the author of the material, in essence, compared the Bundeswehr with a gang of harmless fools.





Matthew Carnichnig writes in the Politico edition:
The once powerful German army looks increasingly helpless: fighters and helicopters that do not fly; ships and submarines that are unable to sail, and in addition an acute shortage of everything from ammunition to underpants.


If you think that comparing the Bundeswehr with the Olsen gang is a mockery, then look at the HK G36 automatic rifle on the standard armament of the German army. The government decided to scrap it all weapon, after it was discovered that at too high a temperature, this weapon is not able to hit the target.

The deputy from the Social Democratic Party of Germany, Hans-Peter Bartels, who is a member of the commission on defense, in a report published in late January, states:
There is a shortage of both people and armaments, often one shortage catches up with the other.


"Soldiers are far from fully equipped"

The German army, once one of the most formidable (and most cruel) in the world, is increasingly beginning to resemble a voluntary fire service, rather than a modern military machine. Last month, alpine arrows were sent to clean snow from rooftops in Bavaria.



During a recent trip to Lithuania, where German soldiers are stationed around 450 as part of strengthening the eastern flank of NATO, American officers were horrified to find that the Bundeswehr military men communicate using unprotected mobile phones because they lack professional radio stations.

At the end of the 2018, less than 20 percent of the 68 German Tiger combat helicopters and less than 30 percent of the 136 Eurofighter fighters were able to fly. Frustrated by this situation, the pilots leave the service.

A high-ranking German officer in the headquarters of the Bundeswehr in Berlin states:
Wherever you look, everywhere something does not work.


This is worse than it might seem.

The German military machine has been falling for a long time. However, the report of Bartels and a series of recent revelations revealing mistakes in the management at the highest level of the defense department show that the state of the armed forces may be worse than even the biggest pessimists had supposed.



American President Donald Trump is putting more and more pressure on Berlin to spend more on defense and fulfill obligations arising from NATO membership. The deplorable state of the German army can thus be one of the main themes of the annual international security conference that is taking place now in Munich.

Is the government of Angela Merkel ready and generally able to cope with this problem? This is another question. Mrs. Chancellor’s center-right coalition oversees the Department of Defense for almost 15 years, and critics believe that the ruling party has aggravated the problems of the Bundeswehr.



Last month, Defense Minister Ursula von der Lyayen, trying to fend off criticism, said:
This is a struggle on many fronts. I would also like to see things go faster, but 25 years of cuts and neglect will not be fixed in a few years.


In recent weeks, von der Lyayen has been at the center of a scandal involving external consultants, including consulting companies McKinsey and Accenture, which are paid hundreds of millions of euros to clean up the army. So far, consultants can not boast of special success.

Concerns about the role of external actors led Parliament last month to create a special commission of inquiry to investigate orders-related violations and accusations that consultants received oversized contracts and acquired excessive influence.



The pressure on von der Lyayen, who has been Minister of Defense since 2013, is increasing on all sides. Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmerman, deputy chairman of the opposition FDP, warned that if the Minister did not quickly relieve the situation, it might be time to ask if the ministry was managed by the right people.

Scare America, ignoring the threat from Russia

Most media now portray the US as a security threat comparable to Russia. Public opinion is trying to steer in a similar direction. The tone of discussions on security is set by several analysts from expert analysis centers who think in this way, who seem to spend most of their time on Twitter, wondering if “Trump will destroy NATO”.



Most Germans believe that China would be a better partner for their country than the United States, according to a poll published last week by Atlantik Brücke, a transatlantic lobby group based in Berlin. About 80, percent of respondents rate US-German relations as “bad” or “very bad.”

In such an atmosphere, it is easy to forget that thousands of American soldiers are stationed in Germany, and that after the end of World War II, Washington is the guarantor of the security of Germany.

However, it is story can be a key issue when it comes to the German defense attitude. Many Germans seem to be blissfully unaware that their safety, and therefore their well-being, is largely based on the presence of the American nuclear shield.



Soon they can expect an unpleasant awakening. The aging German Tornado fighters, the only aircraft in this country capable of carrying nuclear warheads, will be sent for scrap in the coming years. Berlin must find a replacement for them in order to fulfill the obligations arising from the long-term joint nuclear strategy with the US.

This task can be difficult, at least from a political point of view. After the break in this month of the Cold War treaties on disarmament between the US and Russia, some of the policies of the SPD, a small coalition partner in the Merkel government, have begun to cast doubt that Berlin should maintain its nuclear commitments to the US.

The SPD, which loses heavily in polls, is probably only testing the soil for now. Christian Democrats Angela Merkel consistently maintain a nuclear alliance with the United States and any attempt to break it could probably accelerate the collapse of the government.

However, the SPD rhetoric reflects the general skepticism prevailing in Germany on all matters related to defense. This shows that updating the Bundeswehr requires equally to spend more money on changing attitudes in society.

Soldiers are afraid to walk in uniform down the street.

The hard evasion of the Germans from any participation in military actions may have roots in their history in the 20th century, but it also seems that decades of American protection have put this country to sleep and introduced it into a false sense of security.

Given the above, few politicians do anything to support the army as a purely democratic institution. For example, few people pay attention to the fact that the Bundeswehr is involved in dangerous foreign missions in countries such as Mali or Afghanistan.



Reports that the state of equipment of soldiers threatens their life and health, rather, become a topic for black jokes, and do not cause outrage. In a country where military service, as a rule, is not a reason for pride, few people worry about the fate of soldiers.

In Berlin and other German cities, some Bundeswehr employees say that they prefer to make their way to and from work in civilian clothes in order not to look for aggressive looks and unpleasant comments. In Potsdam, near Berlin, local politicians are wondering whether it is appropriate to place ads on urban trams calling for service in the Bundeswehr.



Even Merkel doesn’t care much about the Bundeswehr. Madam Chancellor has not visited soldiers in Germany since 2016. “Does the Chancellor care about the Bundeswehr at all?” Asked Bild on the tabloid cover last week.

In conclusion, the publication summarizes:
The answer to this question may already be pointless at the moment. Merkel is leaving, so the task of restoring the Bundeswehr seems to fall on her successor. By this time, the plans of the “European Army”, of which Germany should be a part, have about the same chances of success as the German air force soars into the sky.


It should be noted that the deplorable state of the Bundeswehr is no longer a secret, but this is far from the concern of the American edition. So according to the results of a poll conducted in Germany by Pew on the eve of the Munich Conference, the majority of people in the country consider the USA to be more of a threat than Russia or China. In Germany, the USA is considered a threat - 49% of citizens, while Russia is 30% and China is 33%.

At the same time, the SPD, which is part of the government coalition, has recently set up a commission to revise the agreement under which German planes must carry American atomic munitions in the event of an attack by Russia, and, moreover, demanded the withdrawal of American nuclear weapons from the country. Naturally, such changes taking place in Germany are perceived in Washington as a threat to their strategic interests. This, in fact, explains the unexpected concern of American journalists about the state of the German armed forces.
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  1. +3
    18 February 2019 05: 18
    Airplanes do not fly, weapons hit the target

    And also the Minister of Defense, a gynecologist and three mg 42. One sticks, the second jumps, and the third bullets in his own.
    1. +15
      18 February 2019 06: 01
      It seems to me that the article is greatly exaggerating and it would be a big mistake to consider the armed forces of Germany to be completely unworkable, worthless, as the article tries to present it ....
      1. 0
        18 February 2019 10: 32
        You're right. Something they can, judging by the first photo. However, it seems to me that such abilities are not related to military affairs.
      2. +6
        18 February 2019 12: 52
        they can be called the most combat-ready in Europe, but not because they are so good, but only because ALL the rest are generally complete slag, both in numbers and in equipment.
        In the last war, it was the Wehrmacht and the Germans that were the backbone around which all shit was capable of something, now in Europe there is no one left for the role of a "connecting link".
        Actually, for us, Russia, this is just fine and means that the Europeans will not be able to organize another "ground" war against us. But the Americans have not gone anywhere yet, of course they are still fighters against a real enemy, but as a detachment to drive the European trash "into our trenches" - they are capable.
      3. 0
        18 February 2019 16: 45
        Quote: Snail N9
        I think the article is greatly exaggerating

        Just Merkel leaves. But I don’t feel like letting von der Layen tear in her place. Because her work really did not differ in effectiveness.
        So some exaggeration is possible. Although everything is really not very good there. When the country's parliament holds a meeting on whether to send two (!!!!!) self-propelled guns to Afghanistan to ensure the security of the advanced operational bases of the German occupation contingent .... this raises great doubts about the Bundeswehr's ability to carry out its tasks.
      4. 0
        23 February 2019 10: 49
        greatly exaggerated to lull our public ...) Leo tanks, for example, are better than American and ours, the shape is also ok strong and durable - I carry it on fishing myself))
    2. +3
      18 February 2019 06: 07
      In Germany, the United States considers the threat - 49% of the citizens, while Russia - 30%, and China - 33%.
      Is it enlightenment in the brain, or what?
      1. +1
        18 February 2019 07: 03
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        In Germany, the United States considers the threat - 49% of the citizens, while Russia - 30%, and China - 33%.
        Is it enlightenment in the brain, or what?

        The Germans believe that the SGA occupied Germany. The opinion that following the Warsaw Pact countries and NATO troops should be withdrawn is quite popular. It is also not uncommon to hear statements that all heavy weapons and the functions of the army should be transferred to the police.
        The situation is similar in Japan. The difference is that the personnel of the "self-defense forces" are aging rapidly, and young Japanese are not very eager to go there.
        1. +11
          18 February 2019 08: 59
          Germany is surrounded on all sides by NATO allies. Germany’s only potential adversary is Russia, which breaks into the German market with Nord Stream-2, dreaming of an SP-3 breakthrough. For Russia, an attack on Germany is tantamount to killing a hen laying golden eggs. The only threat to the Germans is the American occupation forces, committing drinking and brawls in bars and brothels. So it turns out that the USA is the most dangerous for Germany.
        2. +5
          18 February 2019 09: 36
          And what, quite sound thoughts. Russia is an aggressor only in the brains of those whose propaganda has crushed their heads. But these are no longer enough, people are slowly adapting to the most sophisticated processing methods, it’s time to introduce direct control of the brain. Naturally, the USA has occupied Germany, you can’t say better.
          The question is that the structure of threats in the world has changed radically. Against whom should the Germans arm themselves and with what? Who will fight against whom today? The United States is trying to substantiate world leadership, once based on economic power and a successful diplomatic configuration based on confronting the "red threat" by force of arms. That is, they used to pay, and now they threaten.
          The security of countries must now be ensured differently. But as? Here are the Germans and hired consultants. Only consultants understand even less. Personally, I have the opinion that the world generally ceased to understand what exactly is happening ...
      2. +2
        18 February 2019 07: 09
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        In Germany, the United States considers the threat - 49% of the citizens, while Russia - 30%, and China - 33%.
        Is it enlightenment in the brain, or what?

        Uncle Lee, the people and the government are two big differences, don’t you? take a look at ours ... Yes
        1. +2
          18 February 2019 07: 15
          Quote: Grandfather as old
          take a look ..
          And looked enough and heard enough hi
          1. +1
            18 February 2019 07: 24
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Quote: Grandfather as old
            take a look ..
            And looked enough and heard enough hi

            as they say "koloboks" (from the cartoon) - "similarly". hi
    3. +1
      18 February 2019 14: 35
      In vain you are so, the Germans know how to fight, more than once proved.
  2. 0
    18 February 2019 05: 20
    Well, a couple of feminine men still.
    1. 0
      19 February 2019 22: 46
      More precisely, they knew how. The Bundeswehr is far from the Wehrmacht, and this degradation manifested itself from the first days of the creation of the FRG army. Then in the official doctrine of the country it was stated that there were no soldiers in the FRG, but there were "citizens in soldiers' uniforms." And with such an approach, with the purposeful destruction of historical memory and the constant "sprinkling ashes on the head," it is simply impossible to create a truly capable army. And they destroyed the quite excellent and efficient army of the GDR themselves instead of making it the backbone of the Bundeswehr. Now reaping the benefits ... smile
  3. -9
    18 February 2019 05: 24
    Such funny Germans! They don’t know how to do anything properly.
    1. +2
      18 February 2019 06: 54
      how is it nothing? And films for adults frank content? laughing
      1. +7
        18 February 2019 07: 11
        Quote: Voronezh
        Such funny Germans! They don’t know how to do anything properly.

        and do not say ... BMW and Mercedes with audi stupid riveting, worse "penny" "Zhiguli". And tanks do not know how to do, and they have guano beer .. not like ours in "eggplants"! Yes
        1. 0
          23 February 2019 10: 09
          Not that quality, not that. Now a penny of the Soviet assembly will be more reliable than the new Mercedes.
  4. +4
    18 February 2019 05: 41
    Pederasts and lesbians of the Federal Republic of Germany together with EU pacifists will cope with the German army better than all the armies of the world combined ... without any war and human casualties ... you give LGBT society advancement deep into German society.

    If only this infection did not spread to us ... some State Duma deputies may well promote the ideas of LGBT people in our society.
    1. +7
      18 February 2019 07: 16
      Quote: The same Lech
      Pederasts and lesbians of the Federal Republic of Germany together with EU pacifists will cope with the German army better than all the armies of the world combined ... without any war and human casualties ... you give LGBT society advancement deep into German society.

      If only this infection did not spread to us ... some State Duma deputies may well promote the ideas of LGBT people in our society.

      eh ... Alexey .. glancing at the "TV", the impression is that the time is not far away when our territory will be covered by a "blue race" ... and on the street .... look at the boys ... how homosexuals all look , in tights, with bare ankles in winter ... tin.recourse
  5. +5
    18 February 2019 06: 10
    Such as in the first photo it is better to surrender as a prisoner. They got a lot from our grandfathers. Everything was "beguiled" there. But seriously, this is a deliberate policy of alliance partners in "their own direction." And you can talk about it endlessly. De facto Germany is occupied by US troops. It is stupid and naive to expect them to support the national military-industrial complex. For now, the partners' military bases will remain safe.
    1. +3
      18 February 2019 06: 20
      Spinning their HK 36 rifle. It was not possible to shoot. But I couldn't even believe that it was done by the Germans ... and for the army. Plastic resembles PVC with the addition of fiberglass fibers. You can probably burn with a soldering iron. And the barrel is filled with this plastic .. But "sorry" they were gone. Why on earth? Was surprised by the degradation of the weaponry thought of such an eminent German company.
      1. +3
        18 February 2019 07: 22
        Quote: tracer
        Twisted their HK 36 rifle. Shoot did not happen.

        and I MG-42 and MP-38 ... well, as I "twisted" - held. in comparison with "tar" -technological thing, what can I say. let alone the rate of fire of the "bone breaker" generally keep quiet.
    2. +2
      18 February 2019 14: 58
      Yeah ... The men compared how they got from our grandfathers to how their women got it and decided it was better to be women!
  6. +4
    18 February 2019 06: 13
    The Germans categorically do not want to become cannon fodder again, and since Germany is still not a completely sovereign state, they thus prevent them from being drawn into a serious confrontation with Russia. For example, before the recent rocket attacks on Syria on a German frigate, a small fire occurred and he left the database area for repairs.
  7. +2
    18 February 2019 06: 17
    The worse they have, the better for us ...
  8. +5
    18 February 2019 06: 34
    Yes. Germans broke with their tolerance. But what kind of Wehrmacht was: And which army of the NNA, our best associate in the bloc.
  9. +1
    18 February 2019 06: 41
    Last month, alpine shooters were sent to clear snow from the roofs of houses in Bavaria.

    ... Internship)).. laughing
    1. +1
      18 February 2019 06: 56
      what if someone falls from the roof, mom pissed? laughing
      1. 0
        18 February 2019 07: 01
        Ugh, they spoiled the glory of old Fritz.
  10. -2
    18 February 2019 06: 57
    The ambitions of the German fleet ended at the bottom of Scapa Flow (for the surface fleet of the Third Reich, with rare exceptions, was a faded shadow of the crews of the Derflinger and Seidlitz), and the army and air force - in the 45th Yes
    Therefore, the woman at the helm of the army, which is generally unknown to anyone because of Akiyan, reflects the essence of the true Aryans of the current spill. wassat
    1. 0
      18 February 2019 07: 08
      Well, don’t do that, about the Reich fleet. Bismarck showed how to fight. But our fleet in the war seemed afraid of its shadow. Look for the Inu as Luttsov and Prince Eugen in March 1945 received letters of honor from the SS troops, for supporting the flank from the sea with fire, against ours. Spring of 1945 !!!
      1. 0
        18 February 2019 07: 10
        Quote: Lamatinets
        Bismarck showed how to fight

        I've told
        with rare exceptions

        wink
        1. -1
          18 February 2019 08: 40
          Count Spee, not everything is clear, but as it is. Scheer, Operation Cerberus, Schulze-Henriks destroyers, the sinking of Barham, and the German submariners of oh blood spoiled.
          1. 0
            18 February 2019 12: 35
            Quote: Lamatinets
            the sinking of Barham, and even the German submariners of oh blood spoiled.

            For those in the tank, repeat
            a rare fleet of the Third Reich

            I deliberately excluded the submarines! The sinking of "Barem" is a merit of the submarine.
            "Count Spee" - ambiguous? Yes, it's ambiguous. The result is flooded! Or is the flooding also considered a valor?
            "Admiral Scheer" - the fight against merchant shipping of surface ships ended in the first couple of years. One successful cruiser cruise - a brilliant merit of the fleet? He was lucky, the Spee was unlucky - so what? If the British had taken him specifically, he would have been where the "Spee" was!
            German destroyers ... I beg you !!! laughing The German destroyers ran through all the skirmishes of their large ships. Where were they when the Scharnhorst was sunk ??? wink
            Operation Cerberus? Yes, successful! and what did this success give? Yes, the British sighed happily in the Atlantic and concentrated on the fight against the submarine, writing off all surface ships! If the flight of surface ships to their bases is heroic, then I don't know request
            The mediocre actions of the "Hipper" with the "Luttsov" in the New Year's battle brought an end to the heroism of the German surface fleet!
            Yes, the sailors of the fleet are heroes when they died on the Bismarck and Scharnhorst ... I do not argue with that. But the submarines contributed more to the losses of the British than the entire surface fleet!
            The third time I repeat - we are talking about the surface fleet!
            1. 0
              18 February 2019 12: 54
              I do not argue with you. but it seems to me that the Germans had tactics, something akin to ours, to build ships not in series, but what God puts on the soul
            2. 0
              18 February 2019 13: 02
              Yes, but it was such that the Prince of Wales and the Ripals Japas sank, with the complete, almost, lack of PLO and the air defense I am silent. Glories and Ark Royal are also at the heart of the Germans. You can recall PQ 17
              1. 0
                18 February 2019 15: 27
                Quote: Lamatinets
                You can recall PQ 17

                The PQ-17 is Dudley Pound's credit.
              2. 0
                18 February 2019 17: 31
                Quote: Lamatinets
                Glories and Ark Royal also on the soul of the Germans

                "Ark Royal" - a merit of the PL. "Glories" is generally an obscene word, an analogue of the Russian "laxity".
                On the morning of June 8, Glories commander Captain G. D. Oily-Hughes asked Admiral Wells for permission to immediately immediately follow up at Scapa Flow. The reason for this request was a sharp conflict between the commander of the aircraft carrier and the chief of the air group of the ship, Commander D. B. Hot, which required an urgent decision of a military court at [1]. According to another version, “Glories” urgently needed to go to the base due to exhaustion of fuel reserves [2]. After obtaining permission, Glories, accompanied by the destroyers Ardent and Akasta, moved towards the metropolis. It should be noted that in the Norwegian campaign, single carrier carrier transitions with a minimum escort were typical of the Royal Navy, since the British command did not allow the appearance of large enemy surface forces here.

                During the transition, the aircraft carrier’s aviation group did not conduct air patrols, although if the enemy were detected in advance, the Glories, which was not inferior in speed to the German battleships, could have avoided the battle, having reported the enemy to other British ships. However, Glories’s aircraft were in hangars, not one of them was ready to launch. The refusal from aerial reconnaissance was explained by the fact that due to the north-west wind, the aircraft carrier would have to lay down on the reverse course to launch and land aircraft.

                Therefore, the sinking of "Glories" by surface ships is more "merit" of the British than the heroism of the Germans wink
                Quote: Lamatinets
                You can recall PQ 17

                See Alexey RA at 15.27 smile hi
          2. 0
            18 February 2019 15: 24
            Quote: Lamatinets
            Count Spee, not everything is clear, but as it is.

            Yes, everything is clear there - the Panzerschiffe met with a group of the weakest in RN KRT and the two weakest tower KRL. And as a result, he was forced to leave them in a neutral port, where he self-sawed.
            Quote: Lamatinets
            operation cerberus

            Removed threat to Allied Atlantic communications large pots Kriegsmarine. In fact, "Cerberus" is the flight of large ships of the Reich from the Atlantic. After her, all they had left were the northern convoys.
            1. 0
              18 February 2019 15: 26
              Retreat is also a type of warfare. If you suggest keeping ships in the operational vicinity of aviation?
              1. +1
                18 February 2019 16: 07
                Quote: Lamatinets
                Retreat is also a type of warfare. If you suggest keeping ships in the operational vicinity of aviation?

                And what - after Cerberus, something radically changed in terms of the aviation threat?
                It was the same at the new base of the "Gneisenau" that was actually put out of action by a 1000-pound bomb hit with the subsequent explosion of the main battery cellars.

                It was possible to strengthen the air defense of Brest and leave a couple of LKs as a threat to the Atlantic, forcing the enemy to use the LKs he needed so much to cover the KOH (and substituting them under the submarine torpedoes). But the Germans instead removed the surface threat to the Allied main line of communications by locking up their "big pots" in the North and Barents Seas.
  11. +2
    18 February 2019 07: 06
    Which leader is such an army. In fact, they’re fighting army
    1. +1
      18 February 2019 07: 14
      In essence, they have no fighting armies.
      - well, then it turns out that they do not need your army ...
      1. 0
        18 February 2019 07: 24
        And why do they need a combat-ready army if they all do absolutely no combat missions, and such an army will come down to reflect. They are in NATO. NATO must help their colleagues.
        1. +1
          18 February 2019 07: 27
          Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
          NATO must help their colleagues.

          For example, Denmark, Estonia and Latvia laughing he recently organized a headquarters there
          1. 0
            18 February 2019 07: 33
            And the point of this headquarters. Waste of extra money. You yourself understand if something happens this headquarters will not help.
          2. 0
            18 February 2019 08: 41
            General positions immediately appeared on growth)))))
  12. +2
    18 February 2019 07: 16
    compared the Bundeswehr with a gang of harmless fools.
    Note that this is not cheers-patriotism on the site, which some people like to remember so much, but it is written in an American popular publication. The fact that in the Bundeswehr things are not quite the way officials want to present it has been said for a long time and it is said incl. in the German media. In Britain, too, things are not so hot despite the menacingly boisterous minister. And the power of the state is determined not only by the economy, as our liberals want to imagine, but also by the power of its armed forces.
  13. 0
    18 February 2019 09: 45
    If you are driving <Ursula von der Leyen> - then this is not driving ...
    However, I recall that the tripods article is an explicit order, so that can be divided into five wink
    In general, as I recall, NATO was created as a block of opposition to the USSR, thanks to which, in fact, the country had ALL NATO forces, i.e. could, like and spend less on defense. After the collapse of the USSR, this direction finally prevailed. Well, that’s right - otherwise what’s the point in NATO? And now Germany is emerging from it - for NATO has become the US occupation army. And again, they will make the European bloc - for it’s just cheaper, with the same efficiency
  14. 0
    18 February 2019 09: 47
    It’s not so important, the potential enemy’s troops aren’t doing well .... it’s not so easy for us, there are simply MUCH them, and uncle props up from behind, if that!
    They found the main thing, they have a pressure point on our almost EVERYTHING !!! They are pushing and will push further, it will not seem a little to us, because we have plenty of such places and they are more reluctant to become stronger !!! if finally get stronger ???
  15. 0
    18 February 2019 09: 53
    Why is modern Germany a powerful combat-ready army? Someone threatens Germany, do you need to defend yourself? Or, on the contrary, did you want to arrange another blitzkrieg?
    And with Germany, independence is still not all right, the chancellor is still in effect.
    1. 0
      18 February 2019 12: 34
      At any moment, the situation will change. What then? How long does it take to create combat-ready aircraft? In Germany. In which people were brainwashed, that to be strong and use force when necessary is bad. Recall that migrants did on the streets of German cities.
      1. 0
        18 February 2019 15: 15
        A capable, heavily armed army against migrants? Are the police and internal troops no longer enough to restore order inside the country? So, "it's time to change something at the conservatory." How can the situation change? Will the Poles go to war against the Teutons? A new Mussolini will be born in Italy? (I tried to search when we last attacked Germany ourselves, but did not find it)
  16. 0
    18 February 2019 10: 39
    Wehrmacht generals would be shocked if they saw the photo in the title of the article laughing
    1. 0
      18 February 2019 12: 17
      they would be shocked to see what Germany had become.
      1. +1
        18 February 2019 12: 20
        Yes)) with their Turkish-Syrian-Iraqi-Iraqi Albanians, with accompanying "snacks" laughing
    2. +7
      18 February 2019 15: 18
      and if you predict for earlier ...
  17. +3
    18 February 2019 12: 30
    Such a natural historical end of any army, the kt in the past very "brightly lit", waged wars of conquest and participated in robberies and genocide. British Empire, the sun never set over the city. Capturing is not a problem. The problem is to keep. And they held a third of the world. Let's remember the Roman Empire. At one time, the entire "uncivilized world" r ... com put. How then did the Italians fight in the 20th century? Napoleonic France. Brilliant victories in the intra-European showdown. In medieval Europe, German mercenaries were the best after the Swiss. 19-20 century German army and military science were some of the best. Theorists, strategists. New technologies of warfare. Then the German army "burned out". More precisely, it was castrated by new politicians, with an ineradicable sense of guilt, tolerance and multiculturalism. There is no enemy in the East, why do we need an army? The state must always be ready to defend its country. You begin to believe that the Ukrainian army is stronger than any European one. But this is due to the Soviet past that Poroshenko's regime is fighting against.
    1. +1
      18 February 2019 12: 56
      And how Britain ended, Loud Bunch
      1. +1
        18 February 2019 13: 08
        Lamatin agree with you a little. Rather, the sound when the ball is blown away. But still not completely blown away. A little bit left.
        1. 0
          18 February 2019 13: 10
          Perhaps you are right, but China is more likely to gag the Angles. Her empire is over
          1. 0
            18 February 2019 14: 25
            China in its history fought well in between-barrels, but it turned out badly with an external enemy. The same conflict at the CER. When the outnumbered Red Army in Chinese territory defeated the Chinese troops. Whatever you say, but there should be victories in the genes. The Angles will win over the “Papuans”. The Chinese will win in numbers, spirit and will to win.
            1. 0
              18 February 2019 15: 33
              So the Mongol was once beaten, and then, Oppa, he died. But China will break through the economy, and the old glory will not save against gesheft. By the way, Spain, at 15. 16. 17, but at the beginning of the 18 century also drove, and the result of the 19 century is the loss of everything. From so
  18. 0
    18 February 2019 13: 31
    A crocodile is not caught, coconut does not grow ... The German army turned into a miserable parody of a French foreign legion. Anyone serve in it, but not the Germans. A lot of LGBT people. But, at the same time, there are fascist organizations among officers.
    1. 0
      18 February 2019 15: 34
      Yes, the rainbow in the army, that's how. Although there is an example of Rem his SA.
  19. +2
    18 February 2019 14: 29
    I had to work with the Germans. By character, they are tough, in fact professionals.
    1. +1
      18 February 2019 15: 35
      Yes it is .
  20. 0
    18 February 2019 16: 58
    I would not laugh like that at the German army, 1941 clearly showed how Germany can create a powerful army in a short time. There were and are great designers and engineers in Germany, and one should not forget that in 2018 Germany became the 4th economy of the world, overtaking even the UK. This is not Poland or Hungary.
  21. 0
    18 February 2019 17: 10
    The problems began "suddenly" with the arrival of Madame Klein. All means are good for nagging money from the budget. But alas, additional billions go to the refugee army.
  22. 0
    18 February 2019 19: 46
    Why wait if the Minister of Defense is a female gynecologist? laughing
  23. DPN
    0
    18 February 2019 22: 29
    They just lull our vigilance, as in 1941, only the distance to Moscow has become much less.
  24. 0
    18 February 2019 23: 00
    I read the news - Lithuania transfers Germany bully regiment or battalion (under temporary command). For Germans, this is probably the first time out good . Then they can pick up on a permanent Yes . Residents of Ukraine (all) wassat already ready to serve in the Wehrmacht (according to the assurances of their supreme pan wassat - the best warriors angry continent (world-universe) belay What is not an option? drinks
  25. 0
    19 February 2019 16: 19
    So you look Europe will soon ask us to protect them. fellow
  26. 0
    19 February 2019 17: 09
    The question is serious. How will they deal with the invasion of the tomato? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdwUsRJqJcA
  27. 0
    21 February 2019 11: 26
    Funny troops. They have the very place on the podium.
  28. AB
    0
    22 February 2019 18: 40
    Poor, poor deutsche soldier. Germany absorbed the GDR and dissolved in itself. And see in the GDR its National People’s Army was the most powerful armed organization from the countries of the Warsaw Pact after the Soviet Army.