How the British created the Armed Forces of the South of Russia

54
100 years ago, in January 1919, a merger agreement was signed between the Volunteer Army under the command of General Denikin and the Don Army under the authority of ataman Krasnov. It was one of the most important events in stories White movement.

Thus, the Armed Forces in the South of Russia (VSYUR) were created, the commander in chief of which was Lieutenant-General A. I. Denikin. Denikin and the Volunteer Army became the core of the Russian statehood created in the South of Russia (as part of the White Project).



The situation in the south of Russia

The main anti-Bolshevik forces in the South of Russia in 1918 were the armies of Denikin and Krasnov. Volunteers were oriented toward the Entente, and the Krasnov residents were oriented toward Germany, which at that time controlled Little Russia (Ukraine). Krasnov did not want to quarrel with the Germans, as they covered Don from the left flank and supported the Cossacks weapons in exchange for food. Ataman of the Don Cossacks proposed attacking Tsaritsyn in order to unite with the Eastern White Front on the Volga. White command was hostile to the Germans and wanted to establish a single military command in the south of Russia and create a single rear. However, Krasnov did not want to go into submission to Denikin, tried to preserve and even expand the independence of the Don Region. As a result, Denikin, unable to advance in two directions, chose the Kuban and the North Caucasus as the main operational direction. At the same time, allied relations with Don were maintained, and the Don Region was the rear of the Volunteer Army (manpower, finances, equipment, weapons, etc.). Krasnov also focused his efforts on the Tsaritsyn area (two battles for Tsaritsyn: July - August, September - October, 1918 of the year).

By the end of 1918 - the beginning of 1919, the balance of power between the Don Army Krasnov and the Volunteer Army of Denikin changed in favor of the volunteers. The Don army could not take Tsaritsyn, was weakened, drained of blood, the decomposition of Cossack troops, tired of a fruitless war, began. Denikin's army conquers the North Caucasus from the Reds, gets a rear base and a strategic base for further combat operations. But the main thing was that the German Empire suffered a defeat in the world war and the Entente powers got access to the Black Sea region, the Northern Black Sea region, the Crimea. The chieftain Krasnov’s bet on the Germans was a bit. The defeat of the German bloc knocked the ground out from under the feet of the Don Ataman, he lost external support. Don Army now had to follow the left flank, with the evacuation of the Germans, the front line immediately increased by 600 km. Moreover, this huge hole fell on the Donetsk coal basin, where the workers supported the Reds. And from Kharkov, the Petliurists threatened, Makhno's gang from Tavria. The Cossacks did not have the strength to keep the Southern Front. The agreement with Denikin, with the transition under his arm, became inevitable. Since the allies promised to supply the anti-Bolshevik forces (including the Don Cossacks) with ammunition, weapons, equipment and other assistance only if they were united, headed by Denikin. Krasnov was compromised by his connection with the Germans and he had no other way out.

Thus, the defeat of the German bloc radically changed the situation on the Southern Front (also on the Western Front). The representative of Denikin, and then Kolchak, under the Allied Command was General Shcherbachev (former commander of the Romanian Front). In November 1918, the commander-in-chief of the Allied forces in Romania, General Bertello, announced that in order to help the white forces, they plan to move the French and Greek divisions of Thessaloniki to the South of Russia (Thessaloniki Army). However, in reality in London and Paris were not going to fight for the whites.

Krasnov also tried to restructure his policies on the Entente powers. He sent his embassy to Romania. He asked for international recognition of the Great Don Army, as an independent state (until the restoration of a united Russia). He invited the Allied missions to him, spoke about the forcedness of his former pro-German orientation. He proposed a plan for an attack on the Reds in the case of direction to the South of Russia of 3 - 4 corps (90 - 120 thousand people). The allies also promised Krasnov assistance against the Bolsheviks, but refused to recognize his government. The Allies saw only one government and command in the South.

In November 1918, ships of the Entente powers entered the Black Sea. The allies landed the first landing force in Sevastopol, the allies rushed to seize the remaining ships and property of the Russian Black Sea fleet, which before that was controlled by the Germans. The Crimean government of General Sulkevich, focusing on Germany and Turkey (Sulkevich thought to recreate the Crimean Khanate under the protectorate of Turkey and Germany), resigned, giving way to a coalition Crimean government led by Solomon Crimea. The Crimean regional government of S. Crimea consisted of cadets, socialists and Crimean Tatar nationalists. Sulkevich, warned by the Germans about a thorough evacuation, asked Denikin to send troops to defend against anarchy and the Bolsheviks. He himself went to Azerbaijan, where he headed the local General Staff. The White Command sent the cavalry regiment of Gershelman, small detachments of Cossacks and other units to Sevastopol and Kerch. General Borovsky was to begin recruiting volunteers and form a new Crimean-Azov army in order to create a single line of the Southern Front from the lower reaches of the Dnieper to the borders of the Don region.

The Allies also landed troops in Odessa (mostly French, Polish and Greeks) in November-December 1918 of the year. Here they came into conflict with the armed forces of the Directorate of the UPR, but as a result, the Petliurists, fearing war with the Entente, were forced to cede Odessa and the Odessa region. In late January - early February 1919, the Allied forces took control of Kherson and Nikolaev. In the area of ​​the mouth of the Dnieper, the interventionists united with the forces of the White Guard Crimean-Azov Army. The French command took anti-Bolshevik positions, but was not going to support only one force. In the South of Russia, the French decided to support the Ukrainian Directory and the Russian Directory, which was to include a representative of Denikin’s army. Denikin was considered by the French to be a creature of the British, so they were not going to bet only on the Volunteer Army. On the whole, the French did not intend to fight in Russia against the Reds, for this purpose the local "cannon fodder" —the Russian and Ukrainian troops — was meant.

How the British created the Armed Forces of the South of Russia

French patrols in Odessa. Winter 1918 - 1919

Entente ships appeared in Novorossiysk. In December 1918, the official military mission led by General Frederick Pull (Poole, Poole) arrived at Denikin. Prior to that, he commanded the interventionist forces in the north of Russia. The White Command hoped that the Allies would provide troops to maintain order in the occupied territory, which would provide them with a solid rear and calm. Foreign troops in the rear will calmly mobilize, deploy a more powerful army and concentrate all white forces to fight the Bolsheviks. With the help of the Entente powers, by May 1919, the white command was supposed to complete the formation of the army and launch a decisive offensive together with Kolchak. Bullets promised help, the landing of the Entente troops was planned, they promised weapons and equipment on the 250-thousand. the army. Foreign officers also went to Don from Sevastopol on an unofficial mission to the Cossacks. Allies generously lavished promises, but their chatter, like statements by officials, were words without real content. The Allies studied the situation, put the most important points and bases under control, plundered. However, London and Paris were in no hurry with the large-scale landing of troops, weapons and equipment were also held.

On the Don front things were getting worse. Part of the 8 Red Army began to move around the Don Army. The Cossacks had to suspend offensive operations in the Tsaritsyn sector. Two divisions were transferred to the left flank, they occupied Lugansk, Debaltseve and Mariupol. But this was very little that cover up a new vast front. The Cossacks were rare outposts, and it was impossible to weaken other areas. Krasnov was forced to ask for help from Denikin. He sent an infantry division May-Mayevsky. In mid-December 1918, she landed in Taganrog and occupied the area from Mariupol to Yuzovka. He couldn’t send more Denikin, at the same time the white detachments occupied the Crimea and North Tavria, and in the North Caucasus the last decisive battles boiled, the Reds tried to go on the counter offensive.

The Allied Command finally pushed the issue of creating a single command of anti-Bolshevik forces in the South of Russia. Negotiations on this began in Yekaterinodar, chaired by General Dragomirov, and were attended by representatives of the Volunteer Army, the Kuban, and Don. They talked about a single government, a single army and a single representation in front of the Entente. The agreement did not come, representatives of the Don refused to obey. British General Poole personally got down to business. 13 (26) December 1918 was held at the Kushchyovka railway station on the border of the Don and Kuban regions. A meeting took place between Bullet and General Dragomirov on the one hand, and Don Ataman Krasnov and General Denisov on the other. The meeting discussed the issue of joint actions of the Volunteer and Don armies, on the subordination of Krasnov to Denikin. Krasnov refused complete subordination of the Don region to Denikin, but agreed with Denikin's high command over the Don army in operational matters. As a result, Pul helped Denikin subjugate the Don Army.

December 26 1918 (January 8 1919) a new meeting was held at Torgovaya station. Here an agreement was signed on the unification of the armies of Denikin and Krasnov. The Don Army (by the end of January 1919 had 76,5 thousand bayonets and sabers) was transferred to operational subordination to Commander-in-Chief Denikin, while internal affairs remained under the jurisdiction of the Don government. Thus, the Armed Forces in the South of Russia (VSYUR) were created, the commander in chief of which was Lieutenant-General A. I. Denikin. The Volunteer and Don armies became the core of the VYVR Now Denikinians have become the basis of the re-created Russian statehood (white project) and the main force of anti-Bolshevik resistance in the South of Russia.

As a result, having lost the external support of Germany, under pressure from the Entente and under the threat of a powerful new offensive of the Red Army on the Don, Krasnov went to the union and subordination to Denikin.

December 28 1918 of the year (January 10 of the year 1919) Poole visited Don, arrived in Novocherkassk. He also, together with Krasnov, visited the front of the Don Army. 6 (19) January 1919, the Bullet left the Don region, going back to Britain. Before leaving, he promised Krasnov that British troops would soon arrive to help the Don Army. The French representatives also promised that their troops from Odessa would go to Kharkov. However, London and Paris were not going to send their troops to war with the Reds. The bullet that gave too many promises was replaced by General Charles Briggs.


Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the South of Russia A. I. Denikin and the English General F. Pul

The third defense of Tsaritsyn

Krasnov in January 1919 of the year organized the third offensive against Tsaritsyn. However, it failed. By mid-January, the Don Cossacks, breaking the stubborn resistance of the 10 Army under the command of Yegorov, again seized the city with a half-ring. On January 12, the White Cossacks struck north of Tsaritsyn and captured Dubovka. In order to repel the enemy strike, the Red Command removed the Combined Cavalry Division of BM Dumenko (the core of Budenny’s future cavalry army) from the southern sector and transferred it to the North. Taking advantage of the weakening of the southern section, the Donets on January 16 captured Sarepta, but this was their last victory. On January 14, the fighters of Dumenko drove the Krasnovites from Dubovka, and then under the command of Budyonny (Dumenko was sick) made a deep raid on the enemy’s rear. The 8-i and 9-i Reds launched an offensive began to threaten the Don army from the rear. As a result, in mid-February, the Cossacks retreated from Tsaritsyn. 15 February 1919, Krasnov was forced to resign, the next day, General A. Bogaevsky was elected troop chieftain. Now the Don Region was completely subordinated to Denikin.


Armored train "Turtle", which operated near Tsaritsyn in 1918 year. Photo source: https://ru.wikipedia.org
54 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +12
    12 January 2019 06: 59
    From this we can conclude that the war was not civil. The imperialists accomplished their tasks, at the same time destroying the Russian people.
    1. -3
      12 January 2019 07: 19
      This is only if you believe in what this author wrote, who was repeatedly convicted of inaccuracies, juggling facts and outright inventing.
      1. +9
        12 January 2019 07: 40
        in what this author wrote
        and where does the author? There is a lot of data where, for example, Americans having settled in the Russian north in 1918 began to build concentration camps. And shoot everyone in a row. There are many examples ...
    2. +1
      12 January 2019 07: 28
      They decided notably, since my family became cramped from white and red, even green ones were ...

      Brother to brother ... There is nothing worse than that .. I would not want to repeat this ..
    3. +1
      12 January 2019 08: 25
      The second (or third) Patriotic?
  2. -7
    12 January 2019 07: 47
    However London and Paris not in a hurry with a large-scale landing of troops, weapons and equipment were also held.
    French representatives also promised that their troops from Odessa would go to Kharkov. However London and Paris were not going to send your troops to war with the Reds.

    that's all there is to know about the "creation" of the Allies for the Allies: nothing but chatter and promises.

    Actual deliveries of weapons generally began only in the spring of 1919.
    The Russian army fought, cut off from industrial centers and weapons, in difficult conditions.
    1. +4
      12 January 2019 17: 26
      Quote: Olgovich
      that's all there is to know about the "creation" of the Allies for the Allies: nothing but chatter and promises.

      BO July 1, 2011
      ... At first, almost everyone believed that the Bolsheviks' power did not last long, some believed that Russia would repeat the fate of revolutionary France, others believed in a rebellion of the people that would overthrow Bolshevism, while others relied on a war with some Western power. It’s a pity that these people do not They raised the question - do we need “the former Russia”, the Russia of the future? ...

      And then a complete bummer, that without deliveries, that with deliveries.
    2. +4
      12 January 2019 19: 18
      And who prevented the White Army from restoring and creating industry in the occupied territories? On the contrary, there was a complete collapse of economic life, the military of the White Army turned out to be absolutely incapable of administrators and business executives. The banking-industrial bourgeoisie, who fled to the South, felt this very subtly and therefore did not give money for the White movement. What can I say, at first the Volunteer Army was created at the personal expense of General Alekseev. Shulgin wrote in great detail and interestingly about the lack of statehood in the White Idea in his memoirs, for example, in "1920" and others. Yes, and in the memoirs of white generals this can be clearly seen - Denikin, Wrangel, Makhrov, Budberg ... By the way, the first attempt at state building was made by Wrangel in the Crimea, but he was not given time.
    3. 0
      14 January 2019 20: 35
      Quote: Olgovich
      The Russian army fought

      Where did you see the Russian army there? A bunch of adventurers: one announces the Donskoy’s troops an independent state, the other restores the Crimean Khanate under a Turkish protectorate, the third generally declares himself the supreme ruler of Russia, the fourth republican, fifth monarchist selects an heir to the dynasty ... and plus a bunch of separatists of all stripes from the Petliurites, Azerbaijani army of Islam, to the Bukhara emir and the Far Eastern Republic ...
      If not for the Reds, Russia would have ended then! But if this did not happen, then the Fate of Russia itself chose the Winner!
      Humble yourself already, bakers! Your rotten history train left 100 years ago !!!
  3. +13
    12 January 2019 08: 28
    Generals are a dangerous factor in any state.
    So in Russia in February 1917, the generals threw off the tsar-priest.
    Then generals Kornilov, Denikin and many other generals organized a white movement, unleashed a civil war, poisoned and organized, using the most cruel methods, the fighting of ordinary Russian peasants against their brothers, Russian peasants.
    Then the generals came to an agreement with foreigners - the British, French, Germans, received weapons, ammunition, money from them for conducting military operations against their people, against ordinary workers and peasants who worked for them, richly supported them with their own labor, plentifully fed, watered, perfectly dressed, wore shoes until the 17th year.
    And foreigners will not help for nothing, they promised foreigners and they hoped for fat things after the victory of Generals Denikin, Krasnov, Bogaevsky and others. Otherwise, they would not have helped.
    White generals were ready to sell and surrender Russia, all for the sake of satisfying their general ambitions.
    1. -5
      12 January 2019 19: 16
      Ivan T. You, my dear, do not know history well, or rather a lie at the suggestion of the Bolsheviks. The Civil War began with demands for the resumption of the work of the All-Russian Constituent Assembly, dispersed by the Bolsheviks. (For a long time, deputies from all parties and regions of Russia were elected to the Constituent Assembly, but having come to power through a coup, many deputies were not allowed to participate under various pretexts of the Bolsheviks. But this did not help the Bolsheviks, and the Bolsheviks saw the end of their power in the Constituent Assembly, and the majority saw in the Constituent Assembly the main and legal all-Russian power. The further, the more the confrontation flared up, resulting in an extensive civil war. And the main slogan of the anti-Bolshevik forces was to resume the work of the Constituent Assembly. The Bolsheviks lied that the "constituent assembly" was an empty talk shop, - no, the main issues of the structure of Russia were solved there, for example, the first question: the law on land, on the seizure of large lands from the owners with distribution to peasants - farmers, etc., etc. ..
      1. +1
        12 January 2019 20: 08
        Quote: Vladimir 5
        The civil war began with demands for the resumption of the All-Russian Constituent Assembly, dispersed by the Bolsheviks.

        They themselves gathered (the Provisional Government was somehow in no hurry with this issue), they themselves dispersed when the departure of the Bolsheviks and Left Social Revolutionaries deprived the circus of a quorum (minus 30% of the vote). What is the crime?
        1. +3
          12 January 2019 20: 40
          PS. Less than 50% of voters took part in the elections to the SC. Those. after the departure of the Bolsheviks & Co, the US expressed the opinion of less than 35% of the population of the former. RI. => all solutions of the stripped-down US - IDB and circus with horses. No more.
      2. +5
        13 January 2019 02: 15
        Quote: Vladimir 5
        The Civil War began with demands for the resumption of the All-Russian Constituent Assembly, dispersed by the Bolsheviks.

        But how to evaluate the rebellions of Krasnov and Kaledin, which came out immediately after the Bolsheviks seized power? Krasnov, for example, went to Petrograd before the election to the Constituent Assembly.
        1. -1
          15 January 2019 22: 50
          And the very "seizure of power by the Bolsheviks" was not a rebellion against the government?
          Made a rebellion, received rebellions in response ...
      3. +4
        13 January 2019 20: 35
        The enemies of the Communists do not even know how to lie. Two weeks after the October Revolution, the enemies of the Bolsheviks began to create armed armies in the south of Russia to overthrow Soviet power, and the Bolsheviks dismissed the Constituent Assembly in early January 1918. And in the elections to the US, the Socialist-Revolutionaries received the majority of votes, and the Bolsheviks followed them. And for whom then were your White Guards? wassat
      4. 0
        14 January 2019 20: 42
        Quote: Vladimir 5
        And the main slogan of the anti-Bolshevik forces was to resume the work of the Constituent Assembly.

        This is what such main forces ??? Neither Denikin nor Kolchak remember this! More specific!
        1. -2
          16 January 2019 00: 14
          To all doubters, the Internet is in the hands and forward to knowledge, others the knowledge gaps, according to the statements, are enormous ... Each one conducts history lessons, there will not be enough space and time, because some lack knowledge and omission for years of work, because available on the basis of Bolshevik slogans and short courses of the CPSU (b.) are rooted in unshakable truth ...
  4. +4
    12 January 2019 09: 00
    VSYUR was created by no non-British, it is idle reasoning
    The combat situation itself and internal political circumstances led to the folding of this operational-strategic association. The victories of the Volunteer Army at the end of 1918 - the beginning of 1919, the atrocities of the Reds on the Don and the revelation at the beginning of 1919 (which led to the uprising and forging ties with volunteers) are the main factors. It was the union of the Volunteer and Don armies in February 1919 that was the basis of the All-Union Socialist League.
    Well, the help (again, only help) of foreigners is very fragmented. Denikin himself complains of the cunning, duplicity and meagerness of such on the part of the Anglo-French.
    If we talk about the Entente, then after the defeat of Germany in November 1918, the Entente tries to fill the military-political vacuum formed after the withdrawal of German-Turkish troops, occupying some Russian Black Sea cities and territories of Transcaucasia. But (with the exception of the Greek battalion fighting with Grigoriev’s detachments near Odessa), the Entente troops, without participating in the hostilities, were evacuated from Odessa and Crimea in April 1919.
    British troops in the spring of 1919 (but at the invitation of the governments of Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan) landed in Transcaucasia.
    The material and economic assistance of the Entente powers on a large scale to the White Movement lasted only until the conclusion of the Versailles Peace, which formalized the defeat of the German bloc in World War I. Then the corresponding assistance gradually ceases - which is not surprising, because the main interests of the Entente were to preserve the likeness of the Eastern Front of the anti-German struggle and to protect the property and citizens of coalition states on the territory of Russia.
    These are the trends
    1. +10
      12 January 2019 11: 27
      Quote: Albatroz
      Then the corresponding help is phasing out - which is not surprising, because the main interests of the Entente were to preserve the likeness of the Eastern Front of the anti-German struggle and to protect the property and citizens of coalition states on the territory of Russia.

      By the middle of 1919, the time of the conclusion of the Versailles Peace, the winner in the civil war in Russia was almost decided, and by the end of the 19th year it became even more clear that the Reds, Lenin VI and his team, the Bolsheviks, would not give up power, the white generals had lost . England, France, the states realized that investing in white generals and admirals Denikin, Kolchak and others is pointless. They will not receive them back, they will not be returned to them.
      But England and France, and the states hoped to return the funds invested in the generals and admirals with large profits, but here only losses.
      So why spend money on "help" white generals and admirals. Better to look for other suckers and incite him already on Soviet Russia. And soon they found Hitler, Mannerheim, Antonescu and other freaks.
      1. -8
        12 January 2019 17: 04
        Mannerheim and Antonescu found another wise guy who decided that the border is too close to Odessa and Leningrad. All this extended the front line of the Second World War by thousands of kilometers and led to the deaths of millions of Russian soldiers.
        1. +4
          12 January 2019 21: 29
          Severski "All this lengthened the WWII front line by thousands of kilometers and led to the death of millions of Russian soldiers."
          What a brilliant idea.)))) He invented it himself?)))
          1. 0
            13 January 2019 04: 25
            What would happen if Romania and Finland did not fight on the side of Hitler? And the front would be from Memel to Przemysl?
            1. +4
              13 January 2019 08: 16
              Quote: Severski
              What would happen if Romania and Finland did not fight on the side of Hitler?


              Well, if, then ...
              If Hitler would know that in four years he would wallow with a bullet and poison in his mouth, and even doused with gasoline, half-burned in a ditch, then he would not start a war against the USSR at all.
              1. 0
                14 January 2019 20: 57
                This can explain any crime. If I’m not him, then he will me ...
            2. +3
              13 January 2019 08: 56
              Severski "What would have happened if Romania and Finland had not fought on Hitler's side? And the front would have been from Memel to Przemysl?"
              They would have participated in the attack on the USSR in any situation. Hungary with us had no borders whatsoever?))))
              1. 0
                14 January 2019 20: 55
                Finland was not even considered by Hitler as an ally. And Romania was seen as a seller of oil.
                1. 0
                  15 January 2019 07: 54
                  Severski "Finland was not even considered by Hitler as an ally. Romania was seen as an oil seller."
                  Full crap ... Everything has long been said. One has only to read. Although I understand in the manuals this is not indicated.)))
                  1. The comment was deleted.
                    1. 0
                      15 January 2019 17: 12
                      Severski "And who attacked first are facts that cannot be denied or called [manuals]."
                      And who attacked whom? Are we on the Germans?)))
                      1. 0
                        16 January 2019 04: 01
                        What about the Finns?
                      2. 0
                        16 January 2019 14: 21
                        With the Finns, the story dragged on from the Civil War. Do not portray them as innocent lambs.)))) They did not digest the Communists, but in general Russian. read at your leisure about the executions of Russian officers in Vyborg. Therefore, everything was done correctly.
                      3. The comment was deleted.
                      4. The comment was deleted.
                      5. The comment was deleted.
                      6. The comment was deleted.
                      7. The comment was deleted.
                      8. The comment was deleted.
                      9. The comment was deleted.
            3. 0
              14 January 2019 20: 51
              Quote: Severski
              did not fight Romania and Finland?

              Where would they go?
              1. 0
                14 January 2019 20: 54
                No one was eager to fight for someone. Especially with Russia.
                It’s stupid to attack someone and then complain that they attacked you. And to explain this by the fact that they would attack you anyway. Otherwise: where would they go?
                1. 0
                  14 January 2019 20: 59
                  Quote: Severski
                  Nobody burned

                  We have already given you an argument about Hungary. Do you see it at point blank range?
                  1. 0
                    14 January 2019 21: 03
                    I spoke about Romanians and Finns. And I did not speak about Hungarians.
                    Before the Soviet Finnish war, the Germans generally did not think of Finns being taken as allies.
                    1. +1
                      14 January 2019 21: 08
                      Quote: Severski
                      I spoke about Romanians and Finns. And I did not speak about Hungarians.

                      Drain counted! The Germans would sign the Romanians and Finns as well as the Hungarians, regardless of whether we attacked them or not!
                      The same tale about the Baltic states goes: if they would not have joined them, they would have fought with the Germans and the Germans - they would have reached Berlin!
                      1. 0
                        14 January 2019 21: 15
                        Iron logic. Any criminal can justify this. If not for him, then he is me. Hitler himself also waged a Preventive War, as he said.
                      2. 0
                        15 January 2019 06: 32
                        What are they talking about laughing Am I justifying someone? I just answer your argument:
                        Quote: Severski
                        What would happen if Romania and Finland did not fight on the side of Hitler? And the front would be from Memel to Przemysl?

                        There wouldn’t be. Would have fought.
                        And now about the criminals: do you think the criminal state of Poland is the occupying part of the Sudetenland? And such colonial states of that time as England and France? Generally recidivists? And what did Chamberlain say about the occupation of the Czech Republic? Googling ...
                      3. +1
                        15 January 2019 08: 01
                        AllXVahhaB "Google ..."
                        In 18, a lot of people registered here on the site for a specific purpose.)))) I think people work.)) I can’t say anything about this character yet. But they all express their thoughts as if in a carbon copy. And this is different from normal visitors to the site.))) I probably met three people. It can be seen that not ours. This one also looks like.)))
                      4. 0
                        16 January 2019 04: 04
                        The Swedes did not fight. Finns and Romanians would also refuse. But, some wise guy thought that it’s not interesting to live peacefully.
                        And the British and French, noble creatures
  5. +11
    12 January 2019 11: 45
    Quote: Gardamir
    From this we can conclude that the war was not civil. The imperialists accomplished their tasks, at the same time destroying the Russian people.

    In Soviet times, this period was called "Civil War and Intervention". Although "Intervention and Civil War" would have been more correct, since "everything was not spun like a child," when the "evil Czechs" suddenly began to instill in us European values ​​...
    1. -2
      12 January 2019 17: 06
      Evil Czechs quite peacefully drove home when they shook their smart head and decided to disarm them.
      1. +4
        12 January 2019 17: 29
        Quote: Severski
        Evil Czechs quite peacefully drove home

        which did not stop them from buying up enterprises and robbing the population.
        1. 0
          12 January 2019 19: 59
          Has anyone claimed the opposite? All armies in the territories of other states are engaged in the same thing. For the past 3000 years. And the Russians are no exception.
          1. 0
            13 January 2019 09: 46
            Quote: Severski
            Has anyone claimed the opposite?

            Severski (Oleg) Yesterday, 17:06
            Evil Czechs quite peacefully drove home
      2. +2
        14 January 2019 20: 55
        Quote: Severski
        Evil Czechs quite peacefully drove home

        I'm from Ekaterinburg. Tell this bike to my fellow countrymen whose ancestors (20-25 thousand) these lovely people shot ...
        1. +1
          15 January 2019 08: 04
          AllXVahhaB "these nice people shot .."
          It is true enough to read the white general Sakharov. Even he was extremely indignant at Czech savior.)))
  6. +8
    12 January 2019 13: 45
    First, the enemies of the Bolshevik Communists did what they said, wrote in those 100 years after the October Revolution, proved that they, with the manic fix idea, were eager to take the country away from the Bolshevik Communists and their supporters, but they were not able to adequately answer - why, in addition, to create for themselves, loved ones, a comfortable, well-off life.
    Secondly, they are people of fantastic cowardice, reaching in full irrationality. Here they recognize, and are even proud that, after the October Revolution, they created armed armies to overthrow the power of the Bolsheviks, seized the territory of Soviet Russia, killed the Bolsheviks and their supporters, but all the same, contrary to all sound logic and rationality, they chanted in unison that they nothing to do with the outbreak of the Civil War, and the Bolsheviks unleashed it.
  7. +8
    12 January 2019 16: 47
    The Russians won. Who did not call the invaders, but crushed them along with those who sold the country. Unfortunately, the story continues.
  8. +7
    12 January 2019 16: 58
    The novel "Walking through the agony" very colorfully describes the events.
  9. +1
    12 January 2019 19: 09
    “The Allies lavished promises generously, but their chatter, like the statements of officials, were words without real content. The Allies studied the situation, put under control the most important points and bases, and plundered.” ... Very similar to the current situation with the Ukrainian Absurdistan ... there are a lot of carrots and verbal help, but there is a clear desire not to breastfeed for Nezamozhna, but to "restrain" Russia in its growth and development, well, in some cases, even to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian. Are there also sanctions? And name at least one year when the USSR or Russia would not have lived under one or another sanction?
  10. 0
    12 January 2019 19: 57
    The title of the article goes against the content. The article says how the British evaded helping the white movement.
  11. -1
    14 January 2019 05: 00
    But still, what has divorced Germanophile Krasnov and Germanophile Lenin so much? He would create the Red Army for himself along with Trotsky, and he climbed to fight with the Communists.
    1. +1
      14 January 2019 14: 26
      But still, what has divorced Germanophile Krasnov and Germanophile Lenin so much?

      For Germanophile Krasnov, Kaiser Wilhelm was an ally and ruler, and for Germanophile Lenin, Kaiser Wilhelm was an object for extermination, and that’s what made him.
  12. 0
    14 January 2019 18: 31
    Russian statehood being created in the south of Russia (as part of the White Project).

    Not a Russian state, but collaborators!