Polish Air Force replenished with Italian combat training aircraft M-346

The Ministry of National Defense of Poland signed a new contract with the Italian company Leonardo for the supply of an additional four jet combat-training aircraft Leonardo M-346, reports bmpd blog.

According to the newspaper, in March of this year, the Polish Defense Ministry signed the first contract with the Italian company for the supply of four more M-346 combat training aircraft to the Polish Air Force, to the same eight previously received. The contract, worth 115 million, provided for the delivery of aircraft by October 2020, with an option to supply four more. With the new agreement, the Polish Ministry of Defense transferred the option to a firm contract worth 130 million dollars with the supply of aircraft in 2022. The same contract stipulates that the remaining Polish M-12 aircraft be brought to the so-called NATO level STANAG 346 Edition 4193 IFF standard, which is the latest version of the onboard equipment and software M-3 developed by Leonardo.

In total, today the Polish Air Force has eight M-346 aircraft (the Polish name is Bielik), which are part of the 4th training aviation wing (4 Skrzydło Lotnictwa Szkolnego) on the 41st aviation base in Deblin.

All in all, the Italian company Leonardo has now delivered the M-68 production 346 to various countries. Training and combat aircraft used in the Air Force of Italy, Singapore, Israel and Poland.

Comments

[Ros 56]

What is radically different from the Yak-130, can anyone know? In appearance, one to one. I know what our Italians started, how did it end?

[irazum]

The glider is the same, the engines are different (better) and the avionics are different.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

As A. Serdyukov was removed, all the contacts with the Italians on the "military" are over. He lobbied.

[Pimply]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

As A. Serdyukov was removed, all the contacts with the Italians on the "military" are over. He lobbied

He did not lobby. They began long before him, and mainly lobbied for the GDP themselves as part of the friendship with Berlusconi. But they collapsed not because of Serdyukov’s resignation, but because of the encapsulation process and the Crimea. The development of a joint plane was a separate story altogether - there was a story about money that the Italians had and who wanted to save money, and ours, who did not have money, but wanted a plane. As a result, after the development of the airframe, the parties broke up and decided to go further, each receiving a glider and their sales market as specified in the contract. All were satisfied.

[donavi49]

The same glider (in fact, this is the only fruit of the joint work of Yak and Leonardo).

Everything else is different:
- there are the best engines
- the board itself is more advanced, thanks again to the good avionics package
- There are charged versions not in projects like those of Yak, but in hardware, offered for sale. Including the most charged FA with Grifo radar and the ability to use the widest range of weapons from V-V missiles to the new Marta-EP - that is, lightweight anti-ship missiles.

But because of the higher price - they sold them less than the Anchors. Plus, the charged version is already competing in price with the used F-16 earphones after a little repair and the new JF-17 Block 2, as well as slightly more expensive than the Korean charged version of the T-50A, also with radar and all sorts of goodies (but without anti-ship missiles).

[NEOZ]

Quote: donavi49

- There are charged versions not in projects like those of Yak, but in hardware, offered for sale.

Describe the potential buyer of a charged UBS, with radar and other pribludy.

[donavi49]

The Thai King bought T-50TH for his Air Force in good stuffing (shock version, from the Israeli radar - Thailand to Buy T-50TH Aircraft with ELTA Radars).

The Philippines bought the T-50PH but in a more budget version. However, they were actively used in the database against jihadists.

Well, Iraq - their version is the most mysterious. Rumor has it that all (or part) have the latest Selex ES radar.

Total sold under 70 cars to foreign markets (Indonesia, Iraq, Tai, Philippines).

[Pimply]

Quote: donavi49

But because of the higher price, they were sold less than Anchors.

It's not about the price. Yaks contracted a large party of the Russian Air Force. 130 machines, 109 is currently in the military. All in all, other countries purchased 47. The Italians ordered only 18 for their air forces. 30 took Israel - the largest operator of this aircraft, Singapore 12, now Poland will have 16. So they have more foreign orders.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Pimply

So they have more foreign orders.

The author of the campaign took data from Wiki, where the country’s 4 is indicated.
And so M-346 is also from Azerbaijan. 10 is ordered, though it was infa that they ordered additionally 15.
But some count is already in the presence of Azerbaijan.
Personally, the Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan examined them.

[Pimply]

Quote: Yeraz

The author of the campaign took data from Wiki, where the country’s 4 is indicated.
And so M-346 is also from Azerbaijan. 10 is ordered, though it was infa that they ordered additionally 15.
But some count is already in the presence of Azerbaijan.
Personally, the Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan examined them.

This is only a presentation. There is an application in the news, but in 2014 also they wrote about YAK-130

[Yeraz]

Quote: Pimply

This is only a presentation. There is an application in the news, but in 2014 also they wrote about YAK-130

hmmm ... I didn’t know, to be honest. I thought this was done at exhibitions or come to the country of the manufacturer.
Well, let's hope they buy it. The plane is not bad for me, especially in the latest version.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Ros 56

I know what our Italians started, how did it end?

Disagreed on technical issues and judging by the results of the Italians were right, the Yak130 was dangerous for novice pilots, there are too many accidents for a machine that should be super reliable.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Puncher

judging by the results of the Italians were right

by what results?
compare the number of cars produced ...

[Pimply]

Quote: NEOZ

by what results?
compare the number of cars produced ...

The Italians did not have such a "home order". They released two and a half times less somewhere. However, they have 0 serious accidents, the Yak-130 - 7

[pavelty]

Like it in 2011 and 2013 two accidents do not count?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ros 56

different from the Yak-130, can anyone know?

at the price.

[Pimply]

the price they have about the same - about 15 million bucks. Both Yak and Italians

[fruit_cake]

the Poles with their imperial complexes and eternal grievances are a new candidate for the role of the Reich who should strive to the east and they need to help a lot in their ambitions

[white.eagle]

And that is why Poland bought these aircraft without weapons only in the training version

[pavelty]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: donavi49

- There are charged versions not in projects like those of Yak, but in hardware, offered for sale.

Describe the potential buyer of a charged UBS, with radar and other pribludy.

All those who have grandmothers respectively, the UAE, Egypt ... offhand, well, and who have already bought Koreans there - Thailand, Indonesia