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US senator proposed to introduce the US Navy into the Black Sea

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The United States needs to talk to Russia "from a position of strength." Such a statement was made by Republican Senator John Barrasso, commenting on the cancellation of the meeting between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. He called on the United States and NATO to take decisive action against the "Russian aggression" against Ukraine, the Hill newspaper reported.


US senator proposed to introduce the US Navy into the Black Sea


As stated by the senator, Trump did the right thing without becoming to meet with Vladimir Putin, since, in his opinion, the Russian leader is a person who understands only power and is considered only with pressure. Barasso is convinced that it is useless to talk with Putin, since "they mean nothing to him," so America should take more active steps against "Russian aggression."

The senator proposed to send the American fleet and NATO ships to the Black Sea so that they "demonstrated strength." The second step to contain Russia should be the organization of additional supplies of air defense and anti-ship weapons Kiev

This proposal by the US senator came against the backdrop of Donald Trump’s refusal to meet with Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit in Argentina, ostensibly due to the incident in the Kerch Strait.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 December 2018 12: 52
    +8
    With Sevastopol it did not work out, they decided "not to wash, so to ride" ... And will not hiccup?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 3 December 2018 12: 57
      +13
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      With Sevastopol it did not work out, they decided "not by washing, so by rolling."

      Very similar to the eve of the Crimean War of 1853-56gg. what
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 December 2018 13: 00
        +11
        It’s not like. The times are not the same. And the weapons. And why are they "not washing so by skating" Crimea will be taken away? As they enter, they will leave.
        1. KAV
          KAV 3 December 2018 13: 05
          +8
          I think they won't even enter (maximum, they will send a destroyer, in the amount of one piece). They will squeal, sprinkle three piles of weapons on the "brothers", and will watch the outcome. It seems to me that the petunia was finished and now he will not be able to stop what he started.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 3 December 2018 13: 21
            0
            Quote: KAV
            I think they won’t even go in

            I think they won’t even get there. With such an aggressive mood, they can go to the bottom in the Mediterranean or even earlier ...
          2. Machito
            Machito 5 December 2018 10: 36
            0
            It's time for the Russian fleet to make a friendly visit to Cuba. It is necessary to raise the issue of canceling the Montreux Convention at the negotiations with Erdogan. There is nothing for the fleets of non-Black Sea countries to do in the Russian-Turkish Black Sea. Is it in vain that Erdogan was saved from a military coup and so much dough was swelled to Turkey? Let Erdogash work out. Moreover, in front of it you can hang a fat carrot in the form of Turkish interests in Syria and Iraq.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 3 December 2018 13: 52
          +4
          Quote: 210ox
          It’s not like. The times are not the same. And the weapons. And why are they "not washing so by skating" Crimea will be taken away? As they enter, they will leave.

          Log in then log in, but will they log out? We, unlike them, will play in our own field.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 3 December 2018 19: 10
            +2
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Log in then log in, but will they log out? We, unlike them, will play in our own field.

            As I said earlier, I still think that Parasha is preparing to strike at Russian territory, thereby unleashing a war with us.
            There is indirect evidence, this is the mobilization and pulling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to our borders, and now there is talk about the US fleet with the Russian Sea.
            1. Qwertyarion
              Qwertyarion 4 December 2018 10: 18
              +1
              Will they kindle a bonfire of war gradually?
              Then their task is simply to get an answer, and then raise a howl and assemble a coalition against us, gradually drawing in more and more countries.
              This is a lousy prospect for us, but as the saying goes: "We will not die."
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 3 December 2018 13: 05
        +9
        Only Russia did not have SNW at that time, and the "Bastions" did not stand in the Crimea ... And the "Daggers" were not on alert ... Drive their sailors into the trap of the Black Sea, which is being shot up and down ... From the point of view military, pre-losing position ... For PR - maybe ...
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 3 December 2018 13: 07
          +8
          A bit of humor doesn't hurt:

          1. kostiknet
            kostiknet 3 December 2018 13: 21
            +4
            Yeah ... Build on the facts !? What is this? what In recent world politics this is not accepted! repeat
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 3 December 2018 13: 25
              +1
              US Senator proposed to introduce the US Navy into the Black Sea
              at sea, shot through from the shore? -walk ...
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 4 December 2018 10: 59
                0
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                shot through from the shore?

                Around, through the Belarusian ...
            2. StVahmistr
              StVahmistr 4 December 2018 00: 02
              +1
              Rely on the facts!
              He heard that Putin swore at him and sent him! What is the correct spelling of this word - Fack? In the sense of "bad" you. laughing
        2. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 3 December 2018 13: 49
          0
          Or for a surprise attack. Without a declaration of war. The case is of course fantastic, but what if.
      3. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 3 December 2018 13: 52
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Very similar to the eve of the Crimean War of 1853-56gg

        It looks like an ordinary chatter, for scrambling the dough in Congress.
      4. StudentVK
        StudentVK 3 December 2018 14: 22
        +1
        The only difference is that now the world is GLOBAL, and America has taken on the role of a gendarme, and if you try to put pressure on us, then China and other "friends" of the United States will do what is beneficial only to them (islands in the South Sea, commercial war, the creation of the European army, etc.). That is, from my and not only from my point of view, the resources of this “coalition” on the whisker is NOT SUFFICIENT! Their elites are aware of this and understand)
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 3 December 2018 13: 54
      +2
      It would be cool if they drove their fleet to the World Cup, there he would instantly drown in the event of a conflict
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 December 2018 19: 07
      +3
      The United States needs to talk to Russia "from a position of strength." This statement was made by Republican Senator John Barrasso

      Well, from a position of strength with the Koreans tried to talk, so what?
      In general, how does this imbitsil see a conversation from a position of strength with a nuclear power capable of multiplying them by zero as a state?
  2. Berber
    Berber 3 December 2018 12: 54
    +4
    This used to be called "mass psychosis".
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 3 December 2018 12: 56
      +7
      Quote: BerBer
      This used to be called "mass psychosis".

      Senator hurry to take McCain’s place ... The US Navy on the Black Sea is just an easy target ..
  3. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 3 December 2018 12: 55
    0
    Pug. Woof woof woof laughing
  4. Pivot
    Pivot 3 December 2018 12: 56
    +4
    I thought we had a Zhirik clown, they have such Zhirinovites half the Senate.
    1. Berber
      Berber 3 December 2018 13: 09
      +10
      "Zhirik" is a literate person with a very good education. He knows geography better than most of the US Senate. I'm not a fan of him, but I think that you shouldn't be so about him.
      1. Pivot
        Pivot 3 December 2018 13: 34
        +3
        I don’t argue about his literacy, he behaves like a clown, I especially remember him in the 90s and there was no need for TV shows.
    2. Tutejszy
      Tutejszy 3 December 2018 16: 56
      0
      Quote: Pivot
      I thought we had a Zhirik clown

      Then it’s more like a jester. A jester usually - secret adviser the monarch, who, in addition, voices what the monarch does not commemorate. As the Kazakhs say, "What's on Putin's mind is on Zhirinovsky's tongue!"
      By the way, take an interest in the number of orders that Putin awarded Zhirinovsky - you will be very surprised!
      1. Pivot
        Pivot 3 December 2018 18: 07
        0
        Yes, he was plowing just at the EBNka, and there were no clowns for that.
  5. ved_med12
    ved_med12 3 December 2018 12: 56
    0
    I wonder how long this fleet in the Black Sea will be destroyed in the event of a serious mess. We do not take into account nuclear weapons.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 3 December 2018 13: 12
      0
      Quote: ved_med12
      I wonder how long this fleet in the Black Sea will be destroyed in the event of a serious mess.

      Duc, the Yankees are not going to fight, but for a demonstration. To fight is a press-press, and to parade in a slender column under a drumbeat and shouts of "heroes of fat!" (As a sign of support for the Sumerians) this is the very thing!
    2. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 3 December 2018 13: 59
      +3
      Quote: ved_med12

      I wonder how long this fleet in the Black Sea will be destroyed in the event of a serious mess.

      you take off your pink glasses - a serious mess - this is NATO + Ukraine + Georgia and all this at the same time - a bunch of axes from Turkey, Middle-earth, Europe ... covered with air defense by ground and ship and the last wave will go aviation with the launch of axes .... .so it will be hot and long .... and without nuclear weapons we can not survive !!!
    3. faridg7
      faridg7 3 December 2018 14: 32
      -1
      Quote: ved_med12
      I wonder how long this fleet in the Black Sea will be destroyed in the event of a serious mess. We do not take into account nuclear weapons.

      This is with what a fright nuclear weapons are not taken into account? The enemy strike force in the Black Sea is precisely the case when only the starting keys should be left to turn.
  6. Berg berg
    Berg berg 3 December 2018 12: 58
    -4
    Only after several Russian military bases appear in the Gulf of Mexico!
  7. faiver
    faiver 3 December 2018 12: 59
    +2
    The United States needs to talk to Russia "from a position of strength"
    - it will not work, tea is not Panama ...
  8. LMN
    LMN 3 December 2018 13: 03
    +4
    All of December I’ll probably have to listen to this hysteria .. negative
    Like grandmas well .. fool
    1. Berber
      Berber 3 December 2018 13: 10
      +2
      Almost whole. They have Christmas before.
      1. LMN
        LMN 3 December 2018 13: 21
        +2
        Quote: BerBer
        Almost whole. They have Christmas before.

        Well, it’s easier already winked
  9. igorspb
    igorspb 3 December 2018 13: 04
    +5
    It is very annoying that the senator did not even bother to explain his "proposal" in terms of international laws and agreements. That is, either they do not care completely about them, or they (senators and others like them) do not even know about the existence of such international standards ...
    1. LMN
      LMN 3 December 2018 13: 19
      0
      Quote: igorspb
      It is very annoying that the senator did not even bother to explain his "proposal" in terms of international laws and agreements. That is, either they do not care completely about them, or they (senators and others like them) do not even know about the existence of such international standards ...

      Why "explain"? Ordinary "populism" yes Ptadikov earned himself and normal fellow
      You might think they will seriously consider this issue. laughing
    2. SOF
      SOF 3 December 2018 13: 45
      0
      Quote: igorspb
      That is, either they don’t give a damn about them or they (senators and others like them) do not even know about the existence of such international standards

      .... I suspect that it’s not that they don’t know about all the conventions there, but simply don’t suspect that there are any conventions there at all ..... we used to laugh at the Sumerians, their globe of urkaine, and then, as I look, it’s already about the planet SyShia go .........
      .... "well, crazy - what can you take ..." (C)
  10. Leclerc
    Leclerc 3 December 2018 13: 07
    +5
    The senator suggested sending the American fleet and NATO ships to the Black Sea so that they "demonstrate strength."


    I will never understand what is the point of a power demonstration when it comes to world heavyweights, the USA, Russia, China. Strength can be demonstrated and scared by anyone less. There are two serious fighters standing on the street, grinning, both are ready for a fight, and suddenly one takes off his shirt and pants, and starts spinning, showing muscles. Does this have any effect?
  11. svp67
    svp67 3 December 2018 13: 08
    0
    Well..vel cam ... The more targets for our missiles in the Black Sea, the more interesting.
    The second step to contain Russia should be the organization of additional deliveries of air defense and anti-ship weapons to Kiev.
    Well, well ... and then do not be offended when something as a counterweight appears near your shores. Well, for the balance of power in nature
  12. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 3 December 2018 13: 08
    +2
    Exactly, as soon as you finish in Afghanistan, running to Russia, to talk from a position of strength!
    1. FOBOSS
      FOBOSS 3 December 2018 13: 50
      +1
      In Afghanistan, they can end very quickly if you put a couple of Iskanders to the Taliban. Let's say to familiarize yourself with the materiel
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 3 December 2018 21: 08
        +2
        Quote: FOBOSS
        In Afghanistan, they can end very quickly if you put a couple of Iskanders to the Taliban. Let's say to familiarize yourself with the materiel

        They cannot. Can you imagine the difference between "Iskander" and "AK-47" & "RPG-7" in sneakers with curved noses?
        1. FOBOSS
          FOBOSS 4 December 2018 11: 21
          0
          Well, 30 years ago, they somehow managed with the stingers.
          In extreme cases, the Katyusha Type multiple launch rocket system, but 60 kilometers away.
  13. Nikolay73
    Nikolay73 3 December 2018 13: 08
    +1
    Well what can I say, Lavrov is right! What kind of desire to commit suicide, taking still a huge mass of innocent people?
  14. A good one
    A good one 3 December 2018 13: 09
    +2
    We can say that having made this statement, he put his feet on the table, all this in an American manner .. smile
    1. LMN
      LMN 3 December 2018 14: 26
      +1
      Quote: Not bad
      We can say that having made this statement, he put his feet on the table, all this in an American manner .. smile

      laughing
      And what can you do, "corporate ethics", be kind to retirement lol
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 3 December 2018 13: 10
    0
    He is a senator and a senator in Rome! On demand .... just not for the public now, there is a more necessary community there and these are not just citizens of the strip.
    Sho say boom look.
  16. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 3 December 2018 13: 12
    -1
    After some of the "powers that be" tried to talk to Russia from a position of strength,
    for them this position of "strength" turned out to be "knee-elbow", in other words, "cancer".
  17. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 3 December 2018 13: 17
    +3
    The senator suggested sending an American fleet to the Black Sea

    Aha, and let Psaki take a pilot through the Belarusian Sea to show the fairway in the tops)))
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 3 December 2018 20: 10
      +1
      Precisely, she will also work as a guide through the Rostov mountains.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 3 December 2018 21: 13
        +2
        Quote: Metallurg_2
        Precisely, she will also work as a guide through the Rostov mountains.

        Yeah. There is Dyatlov pass, now there will also be Psaki pass ...
        1. notingem
          notingem 4 December 2018 00: 34
          +1
          Do not touch the psaki. It was at least fun with her
  18. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 3 December 2018 13: 21
    +1
    Internal User Statement
    No one has canceled the Convention, especially amid tension, with Erdogan. And there are no fools (I suppose) among admirals who want to drive their fleet into a sweeping pool.
    But here, another question pops up: how far will the leadership of the Russian Federation go if this happens, contrary to common sense ??
    1. FOBOSS
      FOBOSS 3 December 2018 13: 53
      0
      I think they will go out on deck with claws raised, with another attempt to help Ukrainians cross the border
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 3 December 2018 14: 07
        +1
        Ride beyond the distant seas to raise claws is absurd!
        I believe that if the convention is "pushed through" it will be a direct signal for the start of an open war. You can't call them fools, therefore, once again, this is a statement for "internal" showdowns
  19. askort154
    askort154 3 December 2018 13: 32
    +2
    The senator proposed sending an American fleet and NATO ships to the Black Sea ..

    The Americans have a national peculiarity - to know geography only on the scale of North America.
    This senator is no exception. I can assume that he will find the Black Sea on the map, but judging by his delirium, he has never "heard of" the convection of Montreux. And also has no idea what tonnage any American fleet will get. And there it says (Montreux) - the total tonnage of warships of non-Black Sea states should not exceed 30 thousand tons (excluding 45) for a period of not more than 21 days. (i.e., max 2 destroyers) yes
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 3 December 2018 14: 59
      0
      And if in frigates and corvettes? That's the same ...
      1. askort154
        askort154 3 December 2018 15: 13
        +2
        The leader of the Redskins.... And if in frigates and corvettes? The same thing ...

        The USA does not have a fleet consisting only of frigates, or corvettes. They have a fleet without an aircraft carrier - not a fleet.
        The senator proposed to send, namely, the "American Navy". Read carefully. hi
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 3 December 2018 20: 48
      0
      Quote: askort154
      but judging by his delirium, he "never heard of" about the convection of Montreux


      For exceptional convention no decree. They have in their legislation the priority of domestic law over international.
  20. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 3 December 2018 13: 34
    0
    Barasso must himself be present on one of the US warships that will enter the Black Sea. And then what? Go to the Crimea, or Novorossiysk? Also approach the border of the Russian Federation? The naval commanders are well aware of what it means to enter the US Navy in the World Cup, to practically sign the death of this fleet itself. But then these land Penguins from the State Department are all numb, I want to fight ...
  21. FOBOSS
    FOBOSS 3 December 2018 13: 42
    +2
    Revised "Hunter Killer" and came to believe in invulnerability.
    If he himself just sits in Donald Cook
  22. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 3 December 2018 13: 47
    0
    Senator. Cut it to Nenko. You’ll threaten ever closer.
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  24. av58
    av58 3 December 2018 14: 23
    0
    Let Senator Barasso in the forefront come out to speak with Russia from a position of strength: to the ship, and to the Black Sea to our borders laughing
  25. Tahtvjd2868
    Tahtvjd2868 3 December 2018 14: 38
    0
    Enter the river immediately into Moscow! Che current in Black then ?? !! wassat chase there for your fleet, take the front sight ..)
  26. boomerang.
    boomerang. 3 December 2018 14: 55
    +1
    If Ukraine has been heroically fighting for four years with Russia, why does it demand to let its military and their armed boats pass through the territory of Russia, and even with SBU employees. Or even let the former territory of Ukraine. The agreement in 2003, it is outdated, since now the Crimea is Russian, they built a bridge and must pass this bridge according to new laws, according to new borders. Yeah, let the military pass with all the equipment with guns, through the bridge that they threaten to undermine.
    Ukraine insists that Russia has captured Crimea and the whole world is convincing of this.
    And now you can imagine if the military captured the territory, that is, they attacked Ukraine, and the Ukrainian military demands that they be allowed to enter the occupied territory. So they would have let the Russian military in the Crimea through their territory in all uniforms? All captured, Russia received sanctions for this, there is nothing to roam around foreign territory with guns
    fool
    If they believed that Russia had captured Crimea, then they should not demand from Russia, Ukrainians should be allowed to pass through their territory. They confirm that Crimea left voluntarily.
  27. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 3 December 2018 14: 57
    -3
    Do you seriously consider it possible to strike "bastions" and "daggers" from the shore on NATO ships?
    Lord, in the morning there was an article in which the process of writing nonsense in comments was considered in detail. And what, not even half an hour?
    Everyone forgot about Turkey across the sea? About teeth gritting dill at your side? About other inhabitants of the region and partners? Or feel immortal? Of course, I understand, since the guarantor promised paradise, then it will be so, but personally, my family and I are not trying to go there! ....
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 3 December 2018 16: 35
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Did everyone forget about Turkey across the sea? About gritting dill near by?

      And what to think about them? While they are planning to do something, the war between the Russian Federation and the United States will end.
  28. Doliva63
    Doliva63 3 December 2018 15: 21
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: BerBer
    This used to be called "mass psychosis".

    Senator hurry to take McCain’s place ... The US Navy on the Black Sea is just an easy target ..

    McCain’s place - in a cemetery, or what ?! laughing
  29. sleeve
    sleeve 3 December 2018 15: 29
    0
    I propose to persuade the residents of the village of Tashar (Novosibirsk region, the bank of the Ob river) to make colabrationist statements (having previously clarified the purpose, otherwise they will clean the face professionally) and see if this uncle will offer to introduce the US fleet to the Ob river. And it’s easier to send away and it is advisable not to listen. Well, the truth is that the value of common sense is lost ...
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  31. BAI
    BAI 3 December 2018 15: 43
    +1
    The senator suggested sending the American fleet and NATO ships to the Black Sea so that they "demonstrated strength".

    Here is a very good photo of "strength" which was demonstrated by the boat "Perdyansk".
    https://twitter.com/Vityzeva/status/1069462977361911808/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1069462977361911808&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews-front.info%2F
    I would bring it myself, but the moderators will ban.
  32. Conductor
    Conductor 3 December 2018 15: 52
    +2
    Senator, swing wider, enter the fleet right away into the Sea of ​​Azov, what is trifling.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 3 December 2018 20: 56
      0
      Immediately into the Kiev reservoir then. ArlyBerks really will not pass through the gateways, too healthy.
  33. XXXIII
    XXXIII 3 December 2018 15: 52
    0
    US senator proposed to introduce the US Navy into the Black Sea
    Damn urgently need to transfer a couple of icebreakers, well, so for sure .... smile
  34. Kibl
    Kibl 3 December 2018 16: 31
    0
    But nothing that the whole Black Sea is shot through by missiles. Well, as always! The problems of American education are written on the brow of this individual!
  35. swnvaleria
    swnvaleria 3 December 2018 16: 33
    +1
    let them come in and stay only at the bottom as fish food
  36. Volos
    Volos 3 December 2018 16: 39
    +1
    It is necessary to send the nuclear submarine Dmitry Donskoy to the Caribbean Sea with one Mace and several dozen Caliber and Onyx, which are placed in the silo of ICBMs.
    Let the circles go round in Cuba and "greatly annoy" the United States ...
    just like their destroyers in the Black Sea ....
  37. Tutejszy
    Tutejszy 3 December 2018 17: 00
    0
    Well, the light elves wassat they probably never heard of the Montreux Convention. But Erdogan must have heard - and not the fact that he would so easily let overseas owners into his backyard!
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 3 December 2018 17: 31
      +1
      Not the fact that he will refuse a pass. Somehow the fact that Turkey is a member of NATa is forgotten
      1. Tutejszy
        Tutejszy 4 December 2018 11: 07
        0
        Quote: Conductor
        Somehow the fact that Turkey is a member of NATa is forgotten

        Somehow the fact that NATO formally - is forgotten defensive union, and Banderostan is not included in it. So Turkey is not obliged to let pin.dos into the Black Sea!
  38. macgyver
    macgyver 3 December 2018 22: 08
    0
    Let them introduce. There are little blueberries, and how many pollen can be removed from each aircraft carrier!
  39. Likant
    Likant 3 December 2018 23: 27
    0
    The Senator reminds of "Mr. Bean" something! :) And a statement to match!
    But there was not enough NATO scrap metal in the Black Sea! Show the position of force? Americans? Let them at least say when to be afraid! It is customary for them to switch on "laughing off-screen", but here the sciatic muscle will not stand it! They will stand at the entrance, smoke, Moscow will ignore them, Petya will once again let out a tear of emotion, and will go home, telling stories how they scared Russia to hell! And Europe will applaud them, and sit in the same place where it was! People used to describe it: "Crush water in a mortar!" ...
  40. Cry
    Cry 4 December 2018 04: 29
    0
    The United States will not send its sailors and navy so as not to write "Letter to Mary", and the rest of the Banderlog will find eternal peace between the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles in the Sea of ​​Marmara.
  41. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 4 December 2018 10: 53
    +1
    For a long time it is time to stop the policy of pacification of the United States and drinks agree with them. What Russia now eats to do with the United States is very reminiscent of Chamberlain's policy towards Nazi Germany in 1938.
    Being late with the creation of a world military and economic union for collective security against US aggression and economic isolation and US sanction can be very expensive for everyone, including the Americans themselves (as was the case with the Germans in World War II).
  42. Old26
    Old26 4 December 2018 11: 10
    -1
    Quote: KAV
    I think that they will not even enter (at most, they will send a destroyer, in the amount of one piece).

    Yes, there will be 2-3 frigate destroyers. So they make such visits often. If this is a "show of strength", which the US Senator calls for, then they will demonstrate.

    Anti-ship weapons? Who will supply? Germany is unlikely, France too. And the United States can supply only its "Harpoons" so far. Thus, the Ukrainians tested their Neptune missile of approximately similar characteristics. In addition, the anti-ship missiles must be placed somewhere, and Ukraine has strained with pennants. Unless put on a rubber boat. In short, the senator works off the money he is paid and shows his voters that he is a tough guy ...

    Quote: NEXUS
    As I said earlier, I still think that Parasha is preparing to strike at Russian territory, thereby unleashing a war with us.
    There is indirect evidence, this is the mobilization and pulling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to our borders, and now there is talk about the US fleet with the Russian Sea.

    He arranged mobilization already 10 times, no less. And the troops pulled to the border more than once. And just aside. There will be no war in the near future, for something and Petro is not a fool. He knows very well that he will lose the election. The only option to stay in office is to impose martial law. And the extension of this provision for several months or six months. But without war. Then there will be no election. But start a war, his comrades-in-arms will devour him. For no one wants to fight against the army. And the Ukrainian military is well aware of this. These politicians can scream about the most powerful army in Europe. The military understands the price of such statements. So I think there will be nothing besides an air shock ...

    The US fleet in the Black Sea simply will not enter. For the American admirals are also not fools. These politicians can shake the air. The military is well aware of what the provocation of the NATO or US fleet against the Black Sea Fleet could result in. And just go in - they go in anyway. Now, for example, there is no one. Until November 18-19, in the Black Sea there were two minesweepers (Greece and Spain) and a floating base (Germany). We left the permitted period and cleaned.

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    Only Russia did not have SNW at that time, and the "Bastions" did not stand in the Crimea ... And the "Daggers" were not on alert ... Drive their sailors into the trap of the Black Sea, which is being shot up and down ... From the point of view military, pre-losing position ... For PR - maybe ...

    Then really there was no nuclear weapon. And the advantage was achieved by the number of countries participating in the war. And their power.
    And there were no "bastions" on the Black Sea. "Daggers" are not yet on alert. On experimental combat, yes, but these are two big differences. The sea is not all shot, but you are right. They will not drive themselves into a trap

    Quote: igorspb
    they (senators and others like them) do not even know about the existence of such international standards ...

    This is most often. And sometimes not only among their senators but also among our Duma thinkers. Well, I’m generally silent for Radu ...
  43. 1536
    1536 4 December 2018 11: 36
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    Is it time to announce a competition for the best historical names for American aircraft carriers?
    In my opinion, the Italian battleship Julio Caesare went by the name Novorossiysk. Its fate, however, was tragic, but many other ships of Germany, for example, joined the surface forces of the Soviet Russian Navy after 1945 and served with dignity until their decommissioning.
  44. NordUral
    NordUral 4 December 2018 11: 48
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    A cowboy completely beguiled the shore.
  45. axiles100682
    axiles100682 4 December 2018 16: 51
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    Is this a new substitute for McCain?