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If "ours" return to Ukraine ...

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During the week, on the “60 minutes” program, which is being broadcast on the Russia-1 TV channel, a very remarkable statement was made by the former representative of the Ukrainian government (sample of the period of the presidency of Viktor Yushchenko). The ex-official, being in Ukraine, during a discussion of the gas perturbations on the air by the guests, said in bewilderment: what are you discussing? - What are the ridiculous ways Kiev continues to buy Russian oil, coal and gas? Here elections will pass, and ours can come to the power again, - added "former".


The statement is extremely interesting. It forces one to ask several questions at once: first, who are these “ours”, secondly, is there a chance for these “ours” to return to power?

If "ours" return to Ukraine ...


Considering that the statement was made by the official of Yushchenko’s times, it turns out that even those who once spoke for the “orange maidan” are in a state of shock from what is happening in Ukraine today. The person “on the other side of the video bridge” openly says that he does not understand who he needs to be in order to seriously convince citizens of the country that it is expedient to buy American coal and liquefied gas at a time when American companies are loading themselves with cheap energy in Russia? Who should be that the American bulk carrier loaded with coal in the port of Novorossiysk should be set as evidence of progress in Ukrainian-American relations?
The same questions are asked and the vast majority of Ukrainians. But who cares today in the cabinets of Ukraine? Perhaps no one. The main thing - to enlist overseas support.

But, purely hypothetical ... if we assume that in the coming years elections in Ukraine, the current Maidan government will fail miserably ... if we assume that the majority in the Verkhovna Rada will be more sober ... and if we assume that the presidency will be occupied by the antipode Poroshenko , really interested in economic progress in Ukraine, including on the basis of adequate contacts with Russia. Again, everything is purely hypothetical ...

What happens in this case?

first - stops the war in the Donbas. Restored housing and infrastructure.

Second - Natsik with black-red rags begin to hide in barred premises with preliminary exemption from excess weight in the form of weapons and military equipment. Shukhevych’s prospectuses remain only on cards that are sent to historical museums.

The third - Ukraine again turns its attention to the east against the background of the Russian joyful decision to forgive debts, for the fraternity has triumphed again.

Fourth - Against the background of forgiveness of past debts from Russia and the entire EAEU, the “new” Kiev asks for loans for economic recovery, including loans for servicing the GTS in order to preserve the traffic of pipe gas. The brotherhood provision does not give Moscow any moral right to refuse the brothers, since they publicly change European lace panties for good family pants as a symbol of unity.

Fifth - The US ambassador initiates the introduction of sanctions against the "new" Ukraine for attempting to poison with rat poison Petro Poroshenko who escaped abroad.

Sixth - “comrades” are returning to the Ukrainian army, and at the Yavoriv training ground, the only reminder of the stay of the American instructors is the roll of toilet paper “Make-in-Eysey”.

Seventh - having forgotten about the program of import substitution, the Russian defense companies in a passionate kiss merge with the defense companies of Ukraine, which have not drilled the trunks under the caliber of the NATO sample.

Eighth - no one breaks Soviet awards from veterans, quotas for the use of the Russian language are canceled, 9 may, according to Khreshchatyk, be held in a solemn march by Ukrainian, Belarusian, Russian, Kazakhstani, Azerbaijani and other soldiers of fraternal states.

But something suggests that all this "hypothetical" on most points will remain on paper. Too much time has been lost so that - all at once. Yes, and there is a single country in this world, which at the moment has staked out positions on free Ukrainian open spaces so that no “ours” or even “half ours” will be allowed to power in the coming years. At least, try to do everything to prevent.

The only thing that can become a reality is a timid demonstration of those family cowards by “new” Kiev, so that Moscow will melt and indeed not only “fraternally” write off old debts, but also give out new loans at a rate that even Russian citizens will never receive . What you can do for the sake of the twin brothers, if they hint that they are now "a little bit closer to Russia" ...
This can also be attributed to the GTS of Ukraine - it may well be announced that the preservation of gas transit through Ukraine is an important task, since how can we be denied the possibility of something “to grab for the sebe”.

Ambassador Zurabov solemnly returns to Ukraine and launders the walls of the embassy from the green ...

As a result, Ukraine with millions of anti-Russian-minded propaganda by individuals, with former difficulties for Russian-speakers, with the sometimes exploding situation in the Donbas and simultaneously with even more substantial economic support from Russia against the background of the anti-Russian sanctions “for the Crimea”, “for Donbass”, “ for Magnitsky, for Violin, for Violin's Guinea Pigs, for LGBT people, for Kadyrov and for doping, it turns into Frankenstein, who has one hand “friends”, the other “is not friends”, who one eye looks at usa and the other is not at all.

On the Russian talk shows, the same Tryukhans, Yali and Karasevs will appear, but now proving that we received exactly the Ukraine, which we could receive in half-measures, which were undertaken or not undertaken. But they told us ...

In general, the situation may well develop, as in a couple after a divorce, mutual beating of plates of people, but living in the same communal flat. The "former" already go hand in hand with others, but use one gas stove, one toilet, and when they take it on their chest, take out a photo album and begin to look at the photos torn in anger, in which they are together. And when sober, then again - beating plates and talking in a raised voice about the division of living space.
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  1. Soho
    Soho 9 November 2018 05: 41
    +31
    from the category of "fairy tales of the Vienna woods". Ukraine has been dragged into the swamp of separation from Russia so deeply that it is unlikely that these actions will be implemented even if some "former" ones return to power. By the way, the return of the "former" in itself does not mean anything. Poroshenko is also from the "former". He was the Minister of Economic Development under the bloody regime of the tyrant Yanukovych))
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2018 05: 57
      +30
      Alexey Volodin, to be honest, I don't know if we need such a "communal apartment" where we will pay for a neighbor again ... maybe there will be more options for "exchange"? what hi
      1. My address
        My address 9 November 2018 11: 59
        +21
        Read the article and comments. It became sad. Volodin wrote an analytical satire, and the majority of commentators in all seriousness argue about the likelihood of tomorrow's return of dill in the bosom of Mother Russia. By the way, as I have repeatedly stressed, I distinguish the Ukrainians in my Urals from the Ukrainians in the Ukraine and from the fennel in the great Dill. And so let's better grin, see below:

        Advertising: “Hot tours from Ukraine! Wherever and forever! ”

        After negotiations between the pioneers of Vova and Lexus with Congresswoman Waters in February 2018, Poroshenko demanded that President Limpopo Aibolit stop distracting the West from Russian aggression in Ukraine.

        Western Ukraine became part of the Commonwealth - and it collapsed.
        Western Ukraine partly became part of the Russian Empire - and it collapsed.
        Western Ukraine partly became part of the Austrian Empire - and it collapsed.
        Western Ukraine became part of the Polish Republic - and it collapsed.
        Western Ukraine became part of the Soviet Union - and it collapsed.
        Western Ukraine became part of the Ukrainian Republic - three Maidan, the outskirts fall off.
        Western Ukraine wants to become part of the European Union - a crisis, brexit ...
        A wish: when the European Union collapses, Western Ukraine contrives and becomes part of the United States.

        Steven Seagal was banned from entering Ukraine. Right all my life they broke the peasant!

        Poroshenko refused to be a mediator between Trump and Putin. It does not matter that they did not offer to become a mediator. The main thing that refused.

        Poroshenko in the Rada: - Already 60 days, as I do not plump! No, no, do not need applause until it is in a row.

        Poroshenko personifies the blue part of the Ukrainian flag.

        Poroshenko at a press conference: - Soon we will live in France !.
        Question from the audience: - What will happen to France?

        At the request of the Klitschko brothers' PR specialists, the film "Dumb and Dumber" was banned from the Ukrainian film distribution. This picture evoked unnecessary associations among the audience.

        Kiev City Court overturned the victory of Anthony Joshua over Wladimir Klitschko.

        The fact that no one can find the Ukrainian issue money before the end of the 20 century proves that since time immemorial the Ukrainians have used bank cards.

        For a meeting with Trump Poroshenko paid 400 thousand. $. For the first time, a person of reduced social responsibility paid the client.

        Poroshenko and his ministers wanted to lead the gay parade in Kiev. But gay people refused to go with these 3,14s.

        Ukrainian Foreign Minister Klimkin complained that if he married, Putin would not come to his wedding.

        In all mammals, the tail grows from, let's say softly, zops. And only dill tail out of the head. Or maybe nature is not mistaken, and this is not the head?

        Israel called on Jews to leave France and many left. It is even scary to think what will happen if he calls on the Jews to leave Ukraine. There will be no government, a president and a significant part of the Verkhovna Rada ...

        By the way by dill. Every country has its own not very smart de Bills. But so that de Bilov has his own country, this is the first time in the history of mankind ..
      2. S.V.YU
        S.V.YU 9 November 2018 14: 10
        +2
        It’s just that you have to pay for that neighbor, so he will continue to crap under the door, in heavy duty!
      3. VladimS
        VladimS 10 November 2018 12: 55
        +2
        Totally agree with you!
        And Ukraine wants to say only:
        As they drank, pro ... and - and build ships !!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 9 November 2018 06: 00
      +14
      Of course, this will not happen anymore. The generation of Natsik, embittered by Russia, has grown and they are raising their children accordingly.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 9 November 2018 08: 32
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        Of course, this will not happen anymore. The generation of Natsik, embittered by Russia, has grown and they are raising their children accordingly.

        if there will be something similar to the previous relationship, then it will be in 150 years. not earlier
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 9 November 2018 09: 15
          +3
          Quote: LSA57
          if there will be something similar to the previous relationship, then it will be in 150 years. not earlier

          if condition 2 is met and the appropriate zombie policy is possible earlier. That's just Natsik will be unhappy. Therefore, maybe more time is needed.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 9 November 2018 09: 25
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            maybe earlier.

            Well, 10-20 years
          2. NEOZ
            NEOZ 9 November 2018 10: 54
            +4
            Quote: Silvestr
            maybe earlier.

            let's go from the opposite.
            30 years of independence
            30 years of brainwashing
            result: of 99% of the population maintaining relations with Moscow was 40-45% ....
            ps
            in 30 years of backwashing, we can return to 99%
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 9 November 2018 13: 25
              +2
              Quote: NEOZ
              in 30 years of backwashing, we can return to 99%

              multiply by 3 at least. driven from childhood. this is not washed
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 9 November 2018 17: 11
              +1
              Quote: NEOZ
              in 30 years of backwashing, we can return to 99%

              the catch is that Russia can’t do it anymore, and in Ukrian there’s no one
      2. walked past
        walked past 9 November 2018 20: 22
        +3
        At the moment, it will seem wild to many, but still ...
        The greater the percentage of insects, the easier it is from a moral and ethical point of view to use dichlorvos.
    3. Dull
      Dull 9 November 2018 06: 17
      +8
      Quote: Soho
      By the way, the return of the "former" in itself does not mean anything. Poroshenko is also from the "former". He was the Minister of Economic Development under the bloody regime of the tyrant Yanukovych))

      I agree. Even under Yanukovych, in the history books, the demarcation of Russia and Ukraine was fixed, indicating the capture and occupation of Ukrainian lands by Moscow. More than one generation has grown up on this and you think that this nonsense can be weathered in a short period of time? laughing hi
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 9 November 2018 08: 20
        +9
        This whole situation proves that "fraternal peoples" is an abusive phrase. Which republics under the USSR were the most "fraternal"? Georgia and Ukraine. Where did it all end up with shooting and Russophobia? As soon as "fraternal" sounds, for the Russian people it is necessary to understand "free", and since money goes without counting, corruption schemes automatically begin to grow, for the benefit of officials, to the detriment of the people.
    4. Detective
      Detective 9 November 2018 09: 13
      +7
      Quote: Soho
      from the category of "fairy tales of the Vienna woods". Ukraine has been dragged into the swamp of separation from Russia so deeply that it is unlikely that these actions will be implemented even if some "former" ones return to power.

      Ukraine has been dragged out much more than we say! These Russian lands with a Russian population have been Ukrainianized for over 100 years. The result is unfortunately on the face! Therefore, the very existence of independent Ukraine for Russia is a swamp - a TRACE! Including if "our and sober ones come!" The very independent existence of a part of the Russian land with the Russian population is nonsense and dangerous nonsense! After all, even "fraternal independence" should somehow be justified by the self-appointed people, but how can we do this independently if we ourselves are not Russians ?! Well, if we are all one Russian people, as it really is, then naturally we must live in one country together and honestly! This fully applies to Belarus! That is why we cannot even find any "fraternal" Ukraine! And don't be "sober"! During our life with you, we will definitely see Novorossia returning home. Let the Poles deal with the Hungarians with the western part of the pseudo-self. Well, the central part of this unfinished one by Ukraine proper will be - naturally under the Russian protectorate. Until they themselves get rid of their Natsiks! It will be seen there.
      1. brum
        brum 10 November 2018 18: 37
        0
        Quote: Detective
        Ukrainized these Russian lands with the Russian population for more than 100 years.

        the history of his state should be better known back in 1627, Tsar Mikhail issued an order to destroy all the books of the "Teaching Gospel" published in Ukraine ... that is, even then the tsar and his entourage did not see the population of Muscovy as a common people with the population of Rus-Ukraine
      2. rhino
        rhino 11 November 2018 20: 19
        -1
        As for Ukrainization, you have not mixed up anything ???
    5. Dimy4
      Dimy4 9 November 2018 09: 17
      +5
      By the way, the return of the "former" in itself does not mean anything. Poroshenko is also from the "former". He was the Minister of Economic Development under the bloody regime of the tyrant Yanukovych))

      Some of these citizens are still "former", as they were members of the leading and guiding force of the Soviet Union!
  2. NG inform
    NG inform 9 November 2018 05: 42
    +3
    Of course this does not happen. Ukraine is literally a battlefield - we leaked it, we will not be allowed to return there at any cost.
    And if, hypothetically, we assume that, not under the current government, of course, we returned there - in the same place we will have to actively practice the death penalty, destroying the Nazis in the same way as they did during the Second World War. There is simply no other way - it is necessary to relate to events in Ukraine as to the continuation of this very second world war.
    This is all in theory, of course. In reality, Russia is constantly stagnating, the chances of return are already extremely small, so they also decrease with time.
    1. Detective
      Detective 9 November 2018 10: 09
      +16
      Quote: NG inform
      Of course this does not happen. Ukraine is literally a battlefield - we leaked it, we will not be allowed to return there at any cost.

      I don't know, of course, what did you drain there ?! I didn't drain anything! My ancestors fought for this Russian land in all the wars! On the maternal side, my ancestors, Serbian hussars, defended the lands of Novorossiya since the time of Peter 1. My grandfather Bozhko Semyon Davydovich (surname from the Serbian name Bozhko) in 1943, while crossing the Dnieper, received a severe bullet wound in the arm. I am amazed, Nikita, such as you are national masochists! You are always draining someone, you are always stagnant and you sprinkle ashes on your head in tears! The fact that today's Ukraine has now become is not the fault of modern Russia! Moreover, the entire economy of pre-Maid Ukraine was largely supported by cheap energy resources and other trade privileges from Russia! The reasoning that we always owe someone and forever someone that we did not give something is as flawed as your other regular head-throwing into the manure! Well, you like what to do? I just want to ask you - and who owes Russia something? Well, we had hard times of a bloody war in the Caucasus and more than one. Did someone help us? Someone told us - brothers, we are already going, we will help ?! No! And even quite the opposite. They helped, but not for us! So maybe it was not us who lost Ukraine, or who else is on your list ?! Maybe they lost Russia ?! Maybe they made the Russians think hard about what all this "brotherhood" looks like, when Russia does not even need some kind of serious support (God be with you, we never asked for this), but simply moral support !!! You, Nikita, should remember the national pride of the Great Russians if you are of course a Russian! You have already fallen into dust and dirt enough - it's time to wash!
      1. VladimS
        VladimS 10 November 2018 13: 02
        0
        Detective (Igor) +100 !!!!!!
        It has long been strengthened in this opinion.
      2. stas52
        stas52 15 November 2018 11: 31
        0
        The detective, in many respects agrees with you, but the war is in the Caucasus, and as I understand it, what do you mean by modern. That was more of a civil war, that is, an intrastate war, but with the participation of the countries of the Middle East and West.
  3. Freelancer7
    Freelancer7 9 November 2018 05: 47
    +6
    It is sad to admit, but now the majority in Ukraine watch too much local TV and reason in this way. If everything starts to happen according to the scenario described above, then there will be no "coming to square one". Too many people hate the Russian Federation, and pensioners with nostalgia for the old days will not be able to compete with the young, whose brains have been cleaned and reflashed. And what is really there - the United States did not pour loot there, just to miss everything! Yes, they would rather drag Ukraine away into the Stone Age, but they won't let go ...
    1. Viktor Shpachak
      Viktor Shpachak 9 November 2018 06: 49
      0
      Look at the polls ukrosmi on ulitsa.Mnogie pensioners "hayut" Russia and the Russians! That's who is brainwashed.Ved, unlike young people, for them the main source of information is ukro tv
      1. faiver
        faiver 9 November 2018 07: 37
        0
        and is it really different?
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 9 November 2018 08: 41
          +6
          Quote: faiver
          and is it really different?

          differently. on TV they give the floor to pro-Russian people. where did you see hate propaganda? where have you seen calls to destroy urkaine with nuclear weapons? it’s not enough to list the day, as the population is zombified against Russians
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 9 November 2018 09: 21
            0
            No wonder scumbags from Ukraine show us a box every day.
            Levada Center Survey: In 2017, the number of those who are good with Ukraine has grown quite a bit (from 32 to 33%), but the number of those who have a bad relationship with the neighboring state has increased (55 vs. 53% in September 2017 ) At the same time, in September 2012, 74% were positive towards Ukraine, and only 17% were negative.
            As before, 30% of Russian citizens consider Ukrainians hypocritical and cunning, 23% - secretive, 22% - envious.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 9 November 2018 09: 32
              +4
              Quote: Silvestr
              As before, 30% of Russian citizens consider Ukrainians hypocritical and cunning, 23% - secretive, 22% - envious.

              but this, in my opinion, is the most true essence of the Urkaine
              1. Viktor Shpachak
                Viktor Shpachak 10 November 2018 15: 13
                0
                Thank you. I am a Ukrainian citizen of the Russian Federation, SERVED in the RF Armed Forces for 30 YEARS. The son served a term. And WE are "urkaintsy" in the Russian Federation third in number. Lay out your address. And we will talk in court. Or take off the "shoulder straps". I do not want to complain to the administrator! your data.
            2. orphan 63
              orphan 63 9 November 2018 11: 10
              +2
              And why do you not completely cite the data of this survey? Let’s all honestly.
              Only 41% of Russians believe that Russia should support the DPR and LPR in the Ukrainian conflict, these are the data of the Levada Center survey in October 2017.
              37% believe that Moscow should not support anyone and remain neutral.
              6% of respondents believe that Russia should support Ukraine and the Kiev government in the conflict.

              https://www.rbc.ru/politics/30/10/2017/59f341949a79475a1a914f69

              And this is VTsIOM data The Russians are opposed to their country participating in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, against the annexation of the DPR and LPR to Russia. and against recognition of their independence
              . This is evidenced by the data of VTsIOM polls conducted periodically in the period from May 2014.
              At different periods, minor percent fluctuations occur.
              In October 2014, after the referenda in the Donbass
              11% expressed a desire to see the DPR and LPR in Russia.
              23% support the recognition of the independence of the "republics".
              43% of respondents said that Moscow needs to remain neutral and not interfere in the conflict.
              We read and look at the tables here - https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=115834
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 9 November 2018 11: 29
                +1
                Quote: Orphan 63
                And why do you not completely cite the data of this survey?

                To be honest, I looked at another site. There were no such numbers. thank
              2. Detective
                Detective 9 November 2018 11: 47
                +2
                Quote: Orphan 63
                At different periods, minor percent fluctuations occur.
                In October 2014, after the referenda in the Donbass
                11% expressed a desire to see the DPR and LPR in Russia.
                23% support the recognition of the independence of the "republics".
                43% of respondents said that Moscow needs to remain neutral and not interfere in the conflict.

                I completely disagree with this interpretation of the polls. VTsIOM data for 2017.
                -82% of Russian citizens consider it necessary to further humanitarian support for LDNR;
                - a quarter of respondents spoke in favor of an immediate recognition of the independence of the republics of 24%;
                - 18% favored the adoption of LDNR as part of Russia;
                -8% for the expansion of the autonomy of the Donbass. Thus, the majority of respondents proposed in one form or another to support LDNR. The main conclusion of the study is that the vast majority of LDNR Russians do not consider Ukraine. The number of people who consider it necessary to maintain LDNR humanitarian aid for the year has grown significantly. In 2016, 64% in 2017, respectively, 82%. 14% spoke out against. Here it must be noted, of course, that every third respondent spoke for neutrality in the conflict. 4% expressed support for the actions of Ukraine. There are some. 11% of Russians called for direct support for the Donbass. In general, I’ll tell you all these polls are a relative thing. Here, after all, a lot depends on the formulation of the question. The real indisputable answer to the attitude of Russian citizens to what is happening in Ukraine can be the mass voluntary movement of our citizens who supported the Donbass at the most critical moments.
          2. faiver
            faiver 9 November 2018 10: 14
            0
            on TV they give the floor to pro-Russian people. where did you see hate propaganda?
            - Do you watch Ukrainian TV?
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 9 November 2018 10: 22
              0
              Quote: faiver
              do you watch ukrainian tv?

              just once. enough for me. and it was 3 years ago.
              1. faiver
                faiver 9 November 2018 10: 23
                0
                accordingly, you have no idea what they seem there hi
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 9 November 2018 13: 29
                  0
                  Quote: faiver
                  accordingly, you have no idea what they seem there

                  and you do not understand one spoonful of the brew, what's in the pan? or do you have to eat the whole pot so that you don’t get out of the toilet with diarrhea all day?
              2. rhino
                rhino 11 November 2018 20: 48
                -1
                And detail ???
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 9 November 2018 08: 37
      0
      Quote: Freelancer7
      Yes, they’ll rather drag Ukraine into the Stone Age,

      they are already with one foot there. if God forbid, the second Chernobyl will happen, and this is very, very likely, if they don’t stop playing with nuclear fuel, then they will be in a primitive system. and no geyropa, no fenders will help
      1. rhino
        rhino 11 November 2018 20: 49
        0
        Yes, remove the already pink glasses. You talk about what you have no idea.
  4. Jerk
    Jerk 9 November 2018 05: 58
    +3
    Russia does not make sense to be friends.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 9 November 2018 09: 22
      +3
      Quote: Jerk
      Russia does not make sense to be friends.

      with such a Ukraine - yes. But what to do with this "Syria" at hand?
      1. orphan 63
        orphan 63 9 November 2018 12: 07
        +1
        Isolate like a plague hut and quarantine for years to come.
        1. NG inform
          NG inform 9 November 2018 16: 58
          0
          So that it ferments and crystallizes? Do you also do this with other diseases? Suppose a nail is inflamed - you will tie a finger with a rope and forget about it?
      2. Dull
        Dull 9 November 2018 12: 24
        +3
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Jerk
        Russia does not make sense to be friends.

        with such a Ukraine - yes. But what to do with this "Syria" at hand?

        Russia never needs to be friends with anyone. One must always act exclusively in one’s own interests. Only in this way can we have a strong and respected state in the world. hi
  5. Nitarius
    Nitarius 9 November 2018 06: 04
    +3
    (((illusions .. there many will then have to be buried in the ground ..
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 9 November 2018 06: 16
    +2
    The author puts the questions in such a way that it looks like the leadership of the Russian Federation has announced a competition for the best recipe: "What to do with Ukraine? ... It is noteworthy that the option" Do nothing "is not considered. Otherwise, there will be "sanctions" economic problems. And this is in the Kremlin - "holier than the holy".
    Several generations in Ukraine have been building the anti-Russian ideology of this state. The past - you will not return. The only question is which territory should be considered "Ukraine".
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 9 November 2018 08: 46
      +1
      Quote: samarin1969
      The only question is which territory should be considered "Ukraine".

      western
      It's Russia

      and this is Ukraine
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 9 November 2018 06: 27
    +5
    The claw is bogged down, there is an abyss to the whole bird .. The stone rolled down the mountain, don’t stop, and you shouldn’t try to do it .. Rescue of drowning, handiwork of drowning people themselves ... The situation is like this, you throw yourself a stone to stop, cripple, save a drowning man, and you won’t save a drowning man will sink to the bottom ...
  8. akudr48
    akudr48 9 November 2018 06: 35
    -3
    An article from the category If my grandmother had a mustache, then she would be a grandfather ...
  9. kind
    kind 9 November 2018 06: 40
    +2
    It's time to destroy this "Carthage". The Hungarians have already started this.
  10. inkass_98
    inkass_98 9 November 2018 06: 57
    +4
    I beg you, what are "yours" there? The entire pre-election program is based on even greater Russophobia and further "get a view of Moscow" and closer to the hail on the hill.
    I understand that the classic three Khokhlov is a partisan detachment with a traitor. But in fact it turns out that in this partisan detachment (near-power structures) there are only traitors. No other options are visible.
  11. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 9 November 2018 07: 13
    +4
    If "ours" return to Ukraine ...

    I like these "Kremlin dreamers" ... And if this continues, then soon "our" neighbors will come to Siberia to settle in ... Chinese neighbors. Are you all poking into someone else's household, as if you didn't spit on your shirt-front? Are there absolutely no problems in the country? Is it all a bunch?
    How quickly people turn into obedient brutes. It is enough to cut the ration a little and pull the bridle, while promising that if they behave correctly, then perhaps by 2030 ... wassat
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 9 November 2018 07: 43
      +9
      Quote: ROSS 42
      If "ours" return to Ukraine ...

      I like these "Kremlin dreamers" ... And if this continues, then soon "our" neighbors will come to Siberia to settle in ... Chinese neighbors. Are you all poking into someone else's household, as if you didn't spit on your shirt-front? Are there absolutely no problems in the country? Is it all a bunch?
      ... wassat

      I remember a long time ago there was a program "ours", it seems Nevzorov shot about the Baltics. And where is Nevzorov now and where is the Baltics. Indeed, I probably need to do more at home. If you create an attractive country, then "yours" will automatically appear by themselves and not only in the neighborhood, but all over the world.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 9 November 2018 08: 50
      +2
      Quote: ROSS 42
      I like these "Kremlin dreamers" ..

      where did you see the Kremlin there?
      do you think this is a custom article?
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 9 November 2018 09: 52
        0
        Quote: LSA57
        where did you see the Kremlin there?

        Kremlin dreamers and the Kremlin are cognate words. BUT!!! stop
        This week on air of the program “60 minutes”, which aired on TV channel "Russia-1" in the video bridge mode, a very remarkable statement was made by the former representative of the Ukrainian government (sample of the presidency of Viktor Yushchenko).

        This is whose channel? Also say that the studio is located in Khatanga. They also write scripts for programs.
        Why does the article suit you, but do I have these fantasies on the drum? It is precisely because of the fact that Moscow has the following life and death for such people:

        https://news.mail.ru/society/35313653/
        If something excites me, then only this:
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 9 November 2018 10: 05
          +1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Kremlin dreamers and the Kremlin are cognate words. BUT!!!

          OK, where did you see in the article about "Kremlin Dreamers"?
          where did you see that the Kremlin "dreams of returning"?
          This is whose channel? Also say that the studio is located in Khatanga. They also write scripts for programs.

          and then there is "Russia 24" and so what?
          script to everyone invited? to all the crucians and the company?
          Why does the article suit you, but do I have these fantasies on the drum?

          because I read it carefully and never saw the "dream" of returning THIS education.
          on the contrary, it really describes what we do not need.
          It is precisely because of the fact that Moscow has the following life and death for such people:

          you are a populist. and that's just to say the least. Tell me specifically where this photo is taken. and black and white. then tell me who the governor is. and it was he who was to blame, not the Kremlin. first of all, the master of this section is responsible for the mess at a separate workplace, but not the minister to which department this plant belongs
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 9 November 2018 10: 08
            -1
            Quote: LSA57
            you are a populist. and that's just to say the least.

            Do not attribute me to your occupation. This is yours. Below the photo is a link. Sorry, but the beads are over ... request
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 9 November 2018 10: 26
              +1
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Sorry, but the beads are over ...

              all gathered?
              don't worry i'm still throwing
              but they didn’t answer one question. probably there was no time, beads were collected laughing
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 9 November 2018 13: 14
            0
            Such a photo could be made and the Soviet era in many regions. So what?
  12. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 9 November 2018 07: 32
    0
    With any outcome, there will be no new loans, and the Ukrainian economy cannot be raised by the forces of Russia, and the West does not need to.
  13. raw174
    raw174 9 November 2018 07: 33
    +2
    The weather in Ukraine is not formed in Ukraine. What the West and Moscow will stop at will form an independent policy ...
  14. faiver
    faiver 9 November 2018 07: 37
    0
    There will be a day and there will be food ...
  15. apro
    apro 9 November 2018 07: 52
    +4
    Belarus. Ukraine. Russia is one people. One state.
    Today in Moscow there are no plans for the liberation of our peoples. The leaders of Russia today are anxious to suck out all the juices from the occupied territory. And they need war and confrontation between us to cover up their thieves.
    All these gas dairy and other trade wars cover the wars of the rich. They will share what has not yet collapsed.
    It is possible to free our people from the dope of independence at times. But for this, it is only a replacement for the existing government in Kiev and Moscow.
    1. Detective
      Detective 9 November 2018 13: 44
      +3
      Quote: apro
      It is possible to free our people from the dope of independence at times. But for this, it is only a replacement for the existing government in Kiev and Moscow.

      You can free yourself from any dope! In the end, hangover and improve your health! And only cure does not help any medicine!
      Quote: apro
      Belarus. Ukraine. Russia is one people. One state.

      And how exactly did this one nation end up in different republics for a start ?! Where did these republics come from and why? After all, before that, we just lived in one state without any pseudo-national republics. And there were such quite normal provinces - Chernihiv, Poltava, Yekaterinoslav, Kiev, Tavria ... Vitebsk and Mogilev provinces were! But such state entities as Ukraine and Belarus never existed in history before 1917! But then it went - went ... Why ?! And now say only the power in Moscow and Kiev to change the whole business ?! And Bandera will naturally resolve ?! By the way, they appeared, I will tell you a terrible secret, long before the current Russian government. So what will happen if the power is changed? By itself, the Soviet Union will recover from the B and U of the Soviet Socialist Republic in the composition ?! And whom will you bring to power? Simonenko with Zyuganov? Give Crimea again as a token of gratitude? And I’m also embarrassed to ask the case of my predecessors for the Ukrainization of Russian lands, well, there is Krasnodar, Voronezh, Belgorod ... continue?
      1. Aen
        Aen 13 November 2018 12: 16
        0
        This is the Maxim of Ancient ROME .._- SHARE AND RULE ..- For everything paid-
  16. avia12005
    avia12005 9 November 2018 08: 04
    +8
    Either pregnant pop, or it is not pop, but a hit. Of course, it is very good to argue this way and that. But for some reason no one talks about the role of Russia itself in this tragedy. The fact that the betrayal of Gorbachev and Yeltsin is akin to the weakness of Nicholas II, who left the throne and the empire during the war? But they are elevated to the rank of heroes, and Gorbachev also receives a pension in 600 tr. !!! How do you like it, Carl? And the current position of Ukraine is not only the fault of those who live there. And what is the difference between Ivan Petrov in Krivoy Rog and Stepan Ivanenko in Murmansk? Only by the fact that at the time of the collapse of the USSR, the first fate was to be in Ukraine, although he himself was from Omsk. And the second had to meet this event in the Arctic, although he himself is from Kharkov. But all this lyrics. And the prose is that the further the solution of the Ukrainian problem is postponed, the more this problem, sorry for the tautology, will become a bigger problem for both Russians and Russia. Purulent appendicitis itself does not resolve. And the patient faces death if not to carry out the operation.
    1. Varaga
      Varaga 9 November 2018 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: avia12005
      And the patient faces death, if you do not conduct the operation.

      I agree. The same fate as everyone who sent this "brown" infection and its distributors - the USA - into their country.
  17. prior
    prior 9 November 2018 09: 44
    0
    The state of Ukraine has a fourth degree cancer and now nothing will resolve by itself.
    The doctor said to the morgue.
  18. BAI
    BAI 9 November 2018 09: 46
    0
    Third, Ukraine is turning its attention to the east again amid the Russian joyful decision to forgive debts, for the brotherhood has triumphed again.

    Fourth, against the backdrop of the forgiveness of past debts from Russia and the entire EAEU, the “new” Kiev is asking for loans to restore the economy, including loans for servicing the GTS in order to preserve pipe gas traffic. The regulation on brotherhood does not give Moscow any moral right to refuse the brothers, as they are publicly exchanging European lace panties for solid family pants as a symbol of unity.

    This will happen under any government of Ukraine, if it simply says that it is for friendship with Russia, although it will not do anything and leave everything as it is.
  19. mmaxx
    mmaxx 9 November 2018 10: 37
    +4
    Bandera scum did not then so long for power, to give it away. What's this? Return the Russian language, normal history, etc.? Never. They can now be picked up only by force. The naive do not understand this. But Banderier has long been talking about this. Their intentions were never a secret.
    And even without them: nezalezhnaya Ukraine is our enemy in any situation.
  20. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 9 November 2018 11: 56
    -5
    Himself is not ashamed? they lowered Ukraine into the Stone Age with their occupation, took the last pieces from Nenko and fled !?
    1. mmaxx
      mmaxx 10 November 2018 16: 48
      +2
      Good logic ukrov. As I understand it, any immobilizer is already by definition a halfwit. Nobody, never, anywhere, did not let anyone live in peace. The West decided to give us a trick by arranging a glove compartment in Ukraine. Ukrainians enthusiastically pecked. Now complaining that Russia is reacting. Only you would need to understand that if for Russia the so-called Ukraine is 2/3 of the native territory for which a sea of ​​blood has been shed, then for the West it’s another colony that needs to be used. Ukrainians, one more time and not the last time, went to betray themselves in the first place, and now you are whining: what about us? But for that. Russia has not yet reacted in any way, and you are already yelling about the occupation. Such idiots do not even need to be occupied. Do it yourself. You don’t know who your whole story is for sale. And the West will betray once again. Only at first eat your betrayal of the belly. And sell already for Russian money.
      1. DeGreen
        DeGreen 14 November 2018 08: 18
        +1
        We don’t need them, these mustaches.
  21. Varaga
    Varaga 9 November 2018 12: 18
    +2
    Too much time has been missed to make it like this - all at once.

    This is true. For so many decades the consciousness of the people of Ukraine has been poisoned, that now and in 25-30 years this very consciousness will not "recover". And the people themselves, it must be admitted, did not strongly oppose this. Crimea and Donbass? That is why there was resistance to this abomination, that there are many Russians. Or identifying with the Russians. Otherwise, a "bloodbath" would have been arranged in Crimea. And the inhabitants of Crimea sensed it. And Donbass too. And the rest will be silent in a rag to the last. Until they "reach the handle."
    Wait and see...
  22. Varaga
    Varaga 9 November 2018 12: 22
    +1
    Quote: BAI
    This will happen under any government of Ukraine.

    I disagree. More "just like that" Russia will not give Ukraine anything. Lesson learned.
    1. rhino
      rhino 11 November 2018 21: 04
      -2
      And when Russia to Ukraine, something gave just like that ??? In more detail.
      1. Varaga
        Varaga 12 November 2018 20: 11
        -1
        Go, go and go ... In small steps. to last longer. "Troll" unfinished.
        1. rhino
          rhino 12 November 2018 20: 16
          -2
          Here is your confirmation of your own words without confirmation. Russia never gave Ukraine anything for free. Everything has always been paid.
          1. DeGreen
            DeGreen 14 November 2018 08: 15
            +2
            What did Ukraine pay Russia? Missile supplies to Georgians? (Although they did not have the right), a bunch of Bandera in both Chechen. Ahh, stealing gas and insulting against Russia. My friend, do not grind rubbish. Ukraine and Ukrainians are one big BABLE AND FEMALE.
          2. Varaga
            Varaga 14 November 2018 12: 06
            0
            Ukraine was built by Russia. And confirmation of this is not necessary. It is a fact. So do not carry nonsense.
            1. rhino
              rhino 14 November 2018 17: 49
              -1
              We know, we heard, we are waiting for new versions.
              1. Varaga
                Varaga 16 November 2018 12: 12
                0
                Do you know? So be silent and do not "yap". Remember who has and feeds you. And it warms ... laughing
        2. rhino
          rhino 12 November 2018 20: 18
          +1
          I forgot to ask, why am I a troll ??? Because I asked an uncomfortable question ??? I’ve been watching the site for a long time, I’ve registered, is this a crime ???
          1. Varaga
            Varaga 14 November 2018 12: 07
            -1
            Because you "troll". That is, you provoke.
            1. rhino
              rhino 14 November 2018 17: 50
              -1
              I don’t need to glue what is not.
              1. Varaga
                Varaga 16 November 2018 12: 08
                0
                No need to provoke - we will not "glue".
                P.S. It would be correct to say "sew". But no. It says a lot.
                P.P.S. "Glue" girls ...
              2. Varaga
                Varaga 16 November 2018 12: 10
                0
                ... And also "hang up the label" from time to time.
                Just like you. "MumiyTrolls" ... wink
      2. DeGreen
        DeGreen 14 November 2018 08: 17
        +1
        Ukrotroll, you have no place here. Ukraine has always done everything in spite of Russia. Stealing, begging, pouring mud
  23. g1v2
    g1v2 9 November 2018 15: 01
    +5
    In my opinion, the biggest danger is precisely that someone like the Party of the Regions may come to power on dill, which, crying about fraternal people and with a St. George ribbon on their chest, will quietly lead Ukraine to NATO. As the Communist Voronin did in Moldova, who came to power under pro-Russian rhetoric and further promoted Euroassociation and the movement to the west. request
    Ukraine has been an enemy since its very formation in 92. It doesn't matter which one. The book "Ukraine is not Russia was written by a supposedly pro-Russian Kuchma." And now there is a big plus - we see this enemy, and do not build illusions. But at the same time, we live in a kapmir, where it is possible to gain benefits at the expense of enemies. Tch you need to combine actions against this enemy and the interests of your state. That is, every step and action should be beneficial to us, and harm to the enemy. request
    So far, the situation is not bad. The Nazis are ruining the economy of Ukraine and cutting the blinders from the eyes of those Russians in Ukraine who foolishly believed that Ukrainization is not hostile actions against them. I remember how these ...... said like "well, I live in Ukraine, so we need to learn MOV." It is clear that the majority of Russians in Ukraine will bend the Nazis, but there will remain those who will not be able to bend. And these will become the core of resistance. You can bet on them. Moreover, the center of Russian resistance to the enemy already exists in the Donbass. Well, those who will repaint in ukromovnyh, if necessary, will repaint back - they are no strangers. request
    1. DeGreen
      DeGreen 14 November 2018 08: 11
      +2
      We must wait until some Ukrainians die of hunger and cold, others die in the ATO, and others die in Europe. And with the rest to build a new Ukraine
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 14 November 2018 14: 26
        +2
        Why should they die then? belay They will adapt, they will become a big Moldova. WITHOUT HEATING AND INDUSTRY, WELL THAN FOR AGES PEOPLE WERE LIVING AND WERE NOT BREATHED. request Look, in Central Asia they did not rest, but on the contrary, the birth rate is hellish. And the Russian people are stubborn and tenacious.
        ATO? How much did they lose in Ato? If you add up the recognized losses, plus those who were recorded as deserters, those who had already died in the rear and were not included in the list, those who were reported missing, those who were not officially registered in the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and so on, would be released 20-30 thousand. Hardly more. For a country of 35-40 million, this is nothing. In WWII, so many died on a different day. The question is how society perceives these losses. Won in Afghanistan for 10 years, 14500 people died and Soviet society was terrified. And here Ukrainians competently hide Old about losses, writing them down in deserters and so on. PM everyone understands that the official figures are lying, but while the info is hiding, the population has no shock. Well, 30 thousand people died only on the roads and die from crime per year. request
        That’s what flees a lot to Europe, that’s good. It runs just the pro-Western electorate there, which means its concentration is falling.
        Well, about building a new Ukraine-this is utopia. It can pretend to be pro-Russian, like a Yanukovish for the sake of buns, but this abscess will always rot and break through at any time. This is only one good option for us - to move the border to the borders of Slovakia and Hungary. Everything else is a maximum delay of the next conflict.
  24. gx200gx
    gx200gx 9 November 2018 19: 15
    -1
    AUTHOR — Too much IF!
  25. stalki
    stalki 9 November 2018 20: 02
    -3
    It makes sense to return the outskirts, only because of our territory, and with the expulsion of all pro-Western people, you’re tobbling this half-pseudo-country, and maybe even more.
    1. walked past
      walked past 9 November 2018 20: 46
      0
      A VIOLIN IS NOT NEEDED. stop
      Ukraine must either be isolated until it cleans up its debts to the west and we are paid off, or it is unprofitable for the debts ... Limpopo is Limpopo - impoverished and collapsed worse than the Baltic states - they are disadvantageous to us.
      IMHO, if I am guessing correctly why, after four years of sanctions (! DOWN!), responses were drawn, then Novorossia will gain weight, but it's scary to think about entering Russia, the iPhone said directly: "There is no money, but you hold on there ... wassat "
      And on the other hand, the Russians are oppressed crying , on 3,14 cots directly begs ... It is difficult to refuse when SO are asked am . If only a part is permanently attached to the Russian Federation, and a little is left where it was lying, and what would be called in the old way (Ukraine) - let it return loans to the Europeans ...
  26. atos_kin
    atos_kin 10 November 2018 07: 54
    0
    Ours will not come
    1. Aen
      Aen 13 November 2018 12: 07
      0
      Russian -Ukrainians-Belarusians..Russians and other Slavs ..- were born -from one mother! Our enemies ... specially make enmity! .. We will be back!
      1. DeGreen
        DeGreen 14 November 2018 08: 06
        +1
        No. Poles threw Ukrainians to our mother.
  27. Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 10 November 2018 09: 10
    -1
    In the future, the union of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, plus some of the former union republics will again be restored. But all this will happen after a series of upheavals and tribulations and when the people reach the extreme point of no return. In the meantime, politicians are always in charge of those who sneeze on the people. They take care of their own selfish interests, and we can only wait for the next Minins and Pozharsky.
    1. Seamaster
      Seamaster 12 November 2018 11: 05
      +2
      In the future, the union of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan will again be restored, plus some of the former union republics.
      ================================================== ============================
      Why does Russia need this alliance?
      Nothing personal, just business:
      1. Again, hang on your neck about 100 million freeloaders? The economies of these republics are in poor condition. To restore them again at the expense of the Tagil hard worker and the Penza peasant woman?
      2. And what do we need from their economies?
      It's nothing.
      They are our competitors in the world market, since they export (if restored) the same as we: coal, low-grade metal products, grain. And why should we restore our competitors?
      3. About fraternal peoples - do not. Our trouble is that we always climb with our slobbering kisses and valuable nishtyaks (including the lives of our soldiers) to all sorts of "brothers" - Zimbabweans, Ukrainians, Arabs, Serbs and further down the list.
      They take nishtyaks, they weren’t for brothers and not for us.
      In their eyes we are to be milked.
      4. "Ukraine is our neighbor, how are we going to live with a hostile neighbor close by?"
      And how do we live for 600 years, having at our side such "any friends" as Poland and Turkey?
      Are we living? And their constant hatred and blathering do not spoil my appetite.
      5. And a VERY DANGEROUS thesis "Now Russia will heal richly and happily, and everyone will be drawn to us!"
      Think what you are writing?
      THEY WILL PULL FOR A FREEBLE, which we will again give to them.
      As mexes are now rolling in the United States, Arabs and African Africans are traveling to Europe.
      So, as Napoleon said: "God save me from friends, and I myself will get rid of enemies."
      Leo Davydych Trotsky spoke more briefly, but obscene (I do not write - they will be banned).
  28. nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 November 2018 13: 48
    +1
    The results of the Ukrainian elections are unclear for the Ukrainian. One thing is clear that Ukraine will not be the same. Russia took
    responsibility for the Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk. Of course, in these regions there should be modern weapons. But the main weapon should be a showcase of complete prosperity for ordinary people. So that Ukrainians drool. It was these weapons that killed the GDR.
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    1. Seamaster
      Seamaster 12 November 2018 11: 13
      +3
      and then he will reconcile and say "well, we are brothers,
      ================================================== ===================
      What, they just say that to you?
      You are mistaken, my dear.
      You succeeded in knocking out this nonsense about Ukrainian brothers from the head of Russians with the politics of modern Ukraine
      Russians also have no hatred for Ukrainians.
      The attitude of the overwhelming majority is in the style of "Nafig-nafig, she died so dead!"
      Imagine that you have a distant relative, a non-working drunk and a brawler, borrowing and not giving money. His wife is also an alcoholic and a thief, who are children in prison and who are successfully preparing for prison.
      Will you contact with such a relative?
      Oto and identity.
    2. Varaga
      Varaga 12 November 2018 20: 21
      0
      Donbass will be for you, Crimea will be for you ...
      But not earlier than after the integration of Ukraine into the single economic space of the EAEU. Least.
    3. Kawado
      Kawado 13 November 2018 17: 57
      -1
      Yes, in fact, we did not quarrel, and even more so with the brothers!
      Now Ukraine is seriously ill, there is a serious malignant tumor in the body of this country, but together we will definitely find how to cure it ... but it takes time.
      And the opinion of Ukrainians about Russia is not difficult to find out, at least a third of them in Russia.
      Crimea went to Russia itself, and not in 2014, but back in 1992 ... they lingered a bit.
      And in the Donbass, the war unleashed by your beloved cross-commune Turchins.
      1. DeGreen
        DeGreen 14 November 2018 08: 03
        +1
        This is what they say now. Because they realized that they had miscalculated. And just a year ago, 98% of these .... considered Russia as their enemy. Well, why do we need such relatives?
  30. iouris
    iouris 11 November 2018 13: 19
    0
    A Soviet intelligence officer behind enemy lines must make a toast: "Well, to OUR victory!" This is a classic of the genre.
    1. Varaga
      Varaga 12 November 2018 20: 23
      0
      "... We leave one by one. If anything, we are geologists."
  31. Kawado
    Kawado 13 November 2018 17: 36
    0
    For me, so Ukraine will return for sure, and every year this option no longer seems so fantastic.
    Money runs out, the ability to somehow get it or steal it too. This fact will begin to significantly undermine the middle stratum of the elite, which in fact will decide the future of the country.
    A serious turmoil on the border with the Russian Federation did not work out and it was unlikely to be dragged into the war, the industry without Russian orders is melting before our eyes, the economy has almost melted and is close to default. The country is approaching the red mark "there is nothing more to steal."
    And therefore, the super-profitable truth hammered into the genetic memory - "while we are with Russia, we have someone to feed, drink and from whom you can steal" will soon begin to significantly prevail over the very unprofitable modern disposable illusions like "The West will help us" and "America is with us" ... For they bring very little money, and there are a lot of hemorrhoids, and for some reason it is impossible to steal, rather the opposite.
    And since primitive instincts emanating from the empty stomach of tired and frozen millions of Ukrainians, which are unlikely to be stopped by some two or three Sumerian battalions, even armed ones, will be added to this, the powerful American propaganda machine will collapse.
    What almost successfully rolled in the sparsely populated Baltic states is unlikely to drive in a multi-million Ukraine.
  32. DeGreen
    DeGreen 14 November 2018 07: 59
    +3
    I had a terrible dream. Russia made peace with their brothers. Chur me. There are so many parasites at once, so many potential enemies. No, really. May be friends with Papua New Guinea
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  34. mmaxx
    mmaxx 17 November 2018 17: 47
    0
    Quote: Nashorn
    Here is your confirmation of your own words without confirmation. Russia never gave Ukraine anything for free. Everything has always been paid.


    Russia priced from itself: Lugansk, Donetsk, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Kherson, Odessa regions from itself. The rest was cherished and cherished. I copied a bunch of people to Ukrainians. The language forced to learn, what for few people needed. What are you afraid of the Russian language now? Until because they will forget to hell with your Ukrainian the next day and with pleasure. Ukrainians themselves cannot speak it plainly. Stutter and stumble through the word, forget the words.
    And should Russia remain? What did Ukraine pay so much for? The figures have long been made public, who did what and how much they received.
    There were materials about another case. Maybe someone will find? After the war, 30% of the revenues of the non-warring regions were decided to be spent on restoring areas destroyed by the war. So here. After restoration, the Russian regions stopped receiving loot. And the republics continued to receive this tax from everyone else.
    Ukraine paid, say ????