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Loud failure of "Clear Sky"

The “Clear Skies 2018” exercises were designed to demonstrate to the world, and above all Russia, not only the West’s support for Kiev’s aggressive aspirations, but also the high combat effectiveness of the remnants of the Ukrainian aviation, as well as readiness for their use.

Loud failure of "Clear Sky"

However, as it is increasingly happening in post-revolutionary Ukraine, the results of the exercises turned out to be directly opposed to the expectations of Poroshenko and his team. The central event of the “Clear Sky” was not the “battle” of the Ukrainian Su-27 with the F-15 of the US National Guard, from which Poroshenko's “falcons” emerged victorious, but an accident in the Zhytomyr region, in which Ukrainian and American pilots died.

Of course, flight accidents, including those with tragic consequences, are an inevitable satellite of military aircraft of even the richest, most trained and modern armed forces.

But the fact is that the crashed Su-27 identified such a number of the hardest and systemic problems tormenting Ukrainian aviation, against which the accident itself is simply lost, and the issue of combat effectiveness goes into the category of purely rhetorical.

Let's start with the fact that it immediately became known that the plane, on which the American and Ukrainian colonels flew off on their last flight, had not undergone a scheduled repair for 27 for years and had already developed its resource.

Released in 1991, the Su-27UB (963104240 serial number) went to Ukraine as part of the 100-th separate naval fighter aviation aviation regiment of the USSR Navy at Saki airfield in the Crimea, and in 1992 was transferred to the 831-th guards fighter that had passed under Ukrainian control. Aviation Regiment (the current 831 brigade of tactical aviation) in Mirgorod.

In the 2009 year due to the development of the resource was put in the same place for storage. But already in the summer of 2014, due to the outbreak of the war against Donbass, it was re-maintained and returned to service. At the same time, the repair of the aircraft was not carried out, unless, of course, we do not consider as such a new type of camouflage applied to it.

It seems incredible that such a machine, which in general could not be lifted into the air, was not only used by Ukrainian pilots, but also by American guests.

However, the problem lies in the fact that almost the entire military aviation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is in this state. To begin with, the Ukrainian Air Force is represented exclusively by old Soviet aircraft.

Su-27 fighters, MiG-29 front-line fighters, Su-24M front-line bombers and Su-25 attack planes were built during the Soviet era and are already outdated.

In principle, by replacing avionics and upgrading a number of systems and components, these planes can be “pulled up” to an acceptable level, but no such work has been done with them. Moreover, at the moment, even maintaining them in just working condition has become a very serious problem for Ukraine.

At the aircraft repair enterprises that have survived from Soviet times, of course, they are trying to repair or even, as far as possible, upgrade aircraft. However, the possibilities for this are small.

Even ordinary scheduled repairs become a colossal problem due to the lack of spare parts, the sale of which to Russia, for obvious reasons, has ceased.

Recall that just the other day the court for three years and two months imprisoned a resident of Moscow for trying to sell parts for Ukraine for military aircraft Su-27 and MiG-29.

That is, as we see, the Ukrainian aviation is trying to get the necessary spare parts for it even in ways that are so surprising to the state.

Of course, a number of technical problems can be solved at the expense of “aviation cannibalism” - disassembling parts of some aircraft to maintain the fighting efficiency of others at their expense. It would seem that Ukraine has plenty of opportunities for this: when dividing the weapons and property of the Soviet Army, it received more than 2800 aircraft, of which 1700 was fighting. As well as the corresponding technical base.

However, of all this wealth, by the end of 2013, only 160 combat and 27 transport aircraft remained in the APU, not all of them are in working condition. One can only guess where the rest have gone, as well as the spare parts in the warehouses. So "cannibal" and especially nothing. It can be assumed that for some time the Ukrainian Air Force will be able to hold out, finding spare parts, including used ones, in the former countries of the socialist camp and desperately saving the flight resources of the aircraft. That, in turn, creates another, almost a big problem - the unreadiness of flight personnel.

After all, in order for a pilot to effectively fight, he must fly, and fly a lot. That in the current Ukrainian Air Force, as we see, is impossible. And you cannot teach flying with some exercise machines, and you will not support the form.

By the way, the mentioned accident Su-27 was, according to experts, the result of not the technical condition of the aircraft, but the "human factor". What is a consequence of the lack of plaque from the Ukrainian colonel, who piloted the fighter.

And finally, the third aspect that characterizes the current, frankly, frightening state of the Ukrainian Air Force is the glaring irresponsibility of their leadership. We have already indicated the actually faulty machine that was allowed to participate in international exercises.

And at that very time, when the remains of the Su-27 were burning down on the take-off, in the other part of Ukraine the pilots worked out flights at a super low altitude ... above the residential areas of Hotin.

The publication “Politnikvigator” cites evidence of Igor Zubrovsky, a resident of the city, who told how two pairs of Su-27 rushed over residential buildings at an altitude of 50 meters, and over the river they were walking almost over the water, so that the fishermen in inflatable boats overturned.

Such flights are quite risky. Especially when you consider the level of training "Poroshenko Falcons".

Recall that 11 November 2015 of the year in the Zaporizhzhya region Su-25 attack aircraft fell near the highway Kharkiv - Simferopol, crashing into a power transmission tower - the pilot also worked on the flights at super small.

However, it should be understood that the Ukrainian aces did not misbehave over Khotyn, but practiced actions under conditions of the massed use of air defense weapons by the enemy over the agglomerations of Donbass. What dangers are at the same time exposed to the residents, neither the Ases, nor their leadership cared at all.

It can be stated that the Ukrainian Air Force in its current state is dangerous, contrary to Poroshenko’s assurances, not for Russia, but for themselves and their fellow citizens.

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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 19 October 2018 10: 09
    Clear skies over Krajnaya, this is OUR skies .... no banderlog, especially stripes there is no place!
    So it will be, in the end !!!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 19 October 2018 10: 34
      I agree! And let the overseas fall too - they have nothing to do near our borders.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 October 2018 11: 01
        Quote: NordUral
        they have nothing to do near our borders

        They climbed into our territory. Where many have relatives and relatives !!!
        There will be no clear heaven for them, no peace, but peace alone, forever !!!
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 19 October 2018 12: 29
          Quote: rocket757
          They climbed into our territory

          but many in Ukraine do not agree with you !!!! here is the author of the "cockroach note" just disagree !!!!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 19 October 2018 12: 37
            Much in this world is subjectively considered, much is relative.
            Here is the fact that my relatives and the closest ones live on the Extreme, they do not take away to anyone, they consider it to be the same !!! And so there are very many.
            And you want Schaub, we listened to some kind of cockroaches or the opinion of the barmalei?
            Okay, a cockroach, the inevitable .... inconvenience, but the barmaley are sweeping away from that land, there’s nothing more to talk about.
          2. Dersturm
            Dersturm 19 October 2018 12: 50
            The cockroach is a typical inhabitant of "Mother of Dough Ukroinsky", they got used to feeding at the expense of other regions and "nezalezhnost" ...
    2. Fedor egoist
      Fedor egoist 19 October 2018 11: 21
      The central event of Clear Skies was not the “battle” of Ukrainian Su-27s with the F-15 of the US National Guard, from which the “Poroshenko Falcons” emerged victorious, but the accident in the Zhytomyr Region, in which Ukrainian and American pilots died.

      The exercises were held in full accordance with the name laughing laughing laughing
      Let them spend more often: you look - and the sky will in fact clear))
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 19 October 2018 10: 10
    What kind of air force? What are you talking about? Often I see servicemen, “independent”, in some kind of camouflage, with headphones in their ears. They don’t even have everyday clothes. They look more like our black diggers, But they made their choice in 1992. Apparently, they didn’t want to lose, the cottage, the garden, and all this wealth on bare hills,
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 October 2018 10: 16
    Yes, they are dangerous even without airplanes, these banderlogs, and even with airplanes and their scows are doubly. negative yes
  4. Machito
    Machito 19 October 2018 10: 16
    Clear skies 2018. -2 fascists. Do not remember, do not grieve. Generally on the ear.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 21 October 2018 08: 29
      Do not remember, do not grieve. Generally on the ear.
      On the contrary: we all remember. This must not be forgotten. But we don’t grieve - I completely agree.
  5. Bare
    Bare 19 October 2018 10: 22
    This is to be expected.
  6. bober1982
    bober1982 19 October 2018 10: 34
    The Ukrainian Air Force is trying to copy its Western friends, hence the ridiculous camouflage, the headphones mentioned by one of the commentators, sunglasses, roaring dragons, sharks and other indigenous attributes and symbols, that is, how wittily noticed - black diggersи
    In short, it’s not Senka’s hat, it’s not the place to start, you don’t need to build supermen from yourself - it turns out not only comically, but also tragically.
    A small remark, the Su-27s do not fly at extremely low altitudes, there is simply no reason, and only the Su-24 could perform the mentioned flight over the city.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 19 October 2018 11: 09
      Quote: bober1982
      Su-27s do not fly at extremely low altitudes, there’s no reason

      in under-state 404 everything is possible
    2. Shkodnik65
      Shkodnik65 19 October 2018 15: 23
      In the photo, SU-24 is flying exactly over the road, and in the last photo, not the Su-27, but the MiG-27.
  7. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 19 October 2018 10: 38
    . However, the problem is that almost all military aircraft of the Armed Forces are in this state.

    Here I would like to correct or add assumptions. The exercises probably used the best preserved specimens. Therefore, the rest are in worse condition. It can be assumed that the aviation resource has been exhausted as much as possible and this is the main reason for the lack of airstrikes in the Donbas. APU or looking for opportunities to repair the fleet, or save a resource for one decisive breakthrough. Meanwhile pilots lose skill
    1. Paul Bayan
      Paul Bayan 19 October 2018 18: 35
      I suppose an even more utopian conclusion. This litak was probably the most reliable, since they were not afraid to roll the striped Nazi.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 20 October 2018 09: 56
        I also tend to think so. It is unlikely that the Wehrmacht's plans included "ditching the sponsor"
    2. Dr.KonradMorgen
      Dr.KonradMorgen 24 October 2018 00: 57
      APU or looking for opportunities to repair the fleet, or save a resource for one decisive breakthrough.

      In fact, the average raid on the crew in aviation of the Air Force of Ukraine in 2017 was 50 hours. This is not enough, but at times more than it was in 2013.
  8. Jerk
    Jerk 19 October 2018 10: 41
    What kind of aircraft? In Ukraine, there is at least one cartridge plant? !!! Everything you need to know about the armed forces of this country. Lugansk won - it works under shelling, but it works, recently in Georgia they found cartridges from there in a store, Ukraine is fighting like - but without cartridges. Since 2014, they have already shouted - there are NO cartridges for krupnyak in the country. What conclusion came from here? But no! But spank cartridges are not planes to repair, but they cannot
  9. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 19 October 2018 10: 56
    The failure occurred not only because of the LA disaster. To such a scale, the flight crew and technical personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not ready for training; the top command staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is not ready, not to mention the state of the art. Combat training was not carried out regularly and purposefully for 30 years. To eliminate these basic shortcomings, you will need funding, training of personnel, command staff for 20 years. At a minimum.
    1. Phoenix_L'vov
      Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 20: 36
      Think about how far your neighbors will go during this time!
  10. Ostup bender
    Ostup bender 19 October 2018 11: 04
    Oh, you can immediately see that the specialists gathered. Firstly, the board flew in from Russia in 2010 after a major overhaul and partial modernization. There were four of them. Secondly, the 831th aircraft flew very actively, it flies, and the Americans in Mirgorod every year. Mostly on the day of aviation in August. Phantoms, falcons, and needles have been here for many years. Even the American firefighters were there, presented a fire truck and a set of equipment in 2012. Pilots fly here constantly, take part in international shows, regularly practice aerobatics. Resort town, residents and vacationers from numerous sanatoriums are dissatisfied. In addition to this, flights on a shaver above the city were brought in 2014 to 24 October. Thank God, the last time the supersonic was taken over the city was in 2001, then the Urals traveled around the city with sad warriors and inserted new windows glass. here it is. comrades need to look after themselves, be more critical of themselves. and rejoice at the failures of strangers more quietly. The Ukrainians were overjoyed, and bitterness passed to them.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 19 October 2018 11: 10
      Quote: OSTup bender
      supersonic over the city was last taken in 2001m

      ?????, and what does it mean - the last time, you at least imagine what it is.
      1. Ostup bender
        Ostup bender 19 October 2018 11: 11
        What exactly is not clear to you? How does the fighter switch to supersonic speed, and what is the reason for this?
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 19 October 2018 11: 18
          Quote: OSTup bender
          then the Urals traveled around the city with sad warriors, and inserted new windows into the windows

          Residents who have sad soldiers inserted glass into the windows should have big health problems in this case, they can easily be left without ears.
          Pilot (s) - put on trial.
          1. Ostup bender
            Ostup bender 19 October 2018 11: 21
            Thank God, everything worked out well with health. I then sat in a pair in the audience at the technical school. I wouldn’t be so categorical in your place. Otherwise, there will be no one to fly if the pilots are brought to trial for overcoming the barrier.
            1. kiril-belo
              kiril-belo 19 October 2018 23: 20
              when the trees were large, the grass was greener, and Mishka was sitting in Moscow, and our country was called the USSR, the valiant aces of the Soviet Air Force flew over my city, my kindergarten’s house. They repeatedly crossed the sound barrier, patrolling every day and every day the blue sky over our country. So - the glasses in the houses did not fly out at the same time. Maybe yours were doing something else?
      2. Ostup bender
        Ostup bender 19 October 2018 11: 14
        I can imagine well. Can you imagine what this is all about?
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 19 October 2018 11: 25
          Quote: OSTup bender
          what are we talking about?

          From your words that supersonic sound is passing over the city, then the question is - why over the city at an unacceptable height, resulting in serious problems for the local population.
          1. Ostup bender
            Ostup bender 19 October 2018 11: 27
            You are a very cocky comrade, to put it mildly. In addition, a great specialist in the field of aviation, as I can see, tell me where you served? And to go once in ten years, though over the city, the business is worse.
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 19 October 2018 11: 42
              Quote: OSTup bender
              and moving once in ten years, though over the city, is a matter of everyday life. It happens worse.

              The fact of the matter, apparently, is that every ten years, because of this, and over the city at a low altitude, they fired.
              Quote: OSTup bender
              tell me where he served

              I will not tell.
              1. Ostup bender
                Ostup bender 19 October 2018 12: 12
                An aerodrome in the city limits. This is because you are a little far from using a fighter with an integrated circuit of a glider, and its niche in the air defense system (this is that there is no reason for them to fly low). Your comments have more to do with talking than to the topic. no offense, maybe I'm wrong. I can’t walk quietly past the diarrhea towards the regiment in which I served.
                1. bober1982
                  bober1982 19 October 2018 12: 23
                  Quote: OSTup bender
                  I can’t walk quietly past diarrhea in the direction of the regiment in which I served.

                  One should always calmly relate to this, without the pathos that what happened has passed and will not be the same, how much of this diarrhea was, a lot.
                  Chrysanthemums in the garden have faded a long time ago.
                  1. Ostup bender
                    Ostup bender 19 October 2018 12: 28
                    Nevertheless, I am inclined to think that military people should consider the practical and technical aspects of the situation on the site’s forum on the forum, be more objective. Even if we are talking about opponents, natural or probable. Under the article, I don’t see anything like that. here comrades, as people who got to the wrong site. it is strange that most of them are here.
                    1. Rushnairfors
                      Rushnairfors 27 October 2018 22: 20
                      OSTup, well, I, as a military man and as a pilot, really doubt very much about supersonic sound over the city at low altitude (more precisely, I’m sure that you are repainting, most likely there were passages at low (infinitely low) altitude and with an afterburner, from this, by the way, the windows could fly out Flights with supersonic sound over populated areas are FORBIDDEN! Flights with supersonic sound at altitudes less than 11km are PROHIBITED! (With the exception of special zones, it is usually a spare part, where they drive for 1000m but there are definitely no points).
    2. TT62o
      TT62o 20 October 2018 15: 23
      If they fly actively, it does not mean that the resource remains at the proper level. Conservation is not a major overhaul. Even if the plane has reached the overhaul life, it does not mean that it cannot fly, it can only when it falls, no one knows. So the residents of the glorious city of Mirgorod, due to the fact that "831 brta was very active in flying, flying, .." it is necessary to dashingly change their place of residence.
  11. Ostup bender
    Ostup bender 19 October 2018 11: 09
    There was also a case when at night at Christmas, the crew of the sparky boarded the tractor brigade and the center of the village nearest to the airfield. But this is a completely different story ....
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 19 October 2018 11: 26
      "Clear sky" is when nothing will remain in (in) Ukraine. There are no letakovs - the sky is clear. laughing
      1. Ostup bender
        Ostup bender 19 October 2018 11: 41
        Remember, this is a transitional matter.
        1. SOF
          SOF 19 October 2018 18: 55
          Quote: OSTup bender
          Remember this thing transitional

          .... probably, nevertheless, "passing" ...
          .... but passing it will not be earlier than you, againwill become us.
      2. Orakul2000
        Orakul2000 19 October 2018 14: 59
        Well, yes, then there will be "Shadows of Chernobyl" and eventually "Call of Pripyat" will come to everyone there! hi
  12. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 19 October 2018 11: 54
    Fall. Not only leaves fall. Today, the second helicopter has already crashed to the deck, this time an American one (before that, a Frenchman on a helicopter carrier).
  13. iouris
    iouris 19 October 2018 12: 00
    The danger of both the "ukroluftwaffe" and the "indelible" project as a whole is not that they will equalize or become stronger, but that it is a rotting part of a sick organism that will not be amputated, and they do not know how to self-medicate and do not want to ... The only idea of ​​"Ukrainism" ("Westernism") is to decompose even by self-destruction.
  14. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 19 October 2018 12: 15
    I think that the author has somewhat embellished the situation, in fact the situation is even worse.
  15. NEXUS
    NEXUS 19 October 2018 13: 32
    It can be stated that the Ukrainian Air Force in its current state is dangerous, contrary to Poroshenko’s assurances, not for Russia, but for themselves and their fellow citizens.

    The Ukrainian Air Force, as well as the Navy, is de facto gone. This corpse-fragment of former Soviet power died a long time ago, and now it is decomposing and rusting ...
  16. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 19 October 2018 14: 05
    Ahem ... I, of course, could be mistaken, but the photo in an article from Su-24 on the PMV above the highway is Russia: 09.08.2012, the Rostov-on-Don-Volgograd highway, the crew of Lt. Col. Mizhurko.
  17. security guard
    security guard 19 October 2018 15: 14
    the zrada, of course, is notable, but it’s especially useless to gnaw, it can happen to anyone.
    it was necessary to watch what kind of car you were flying, and take pictures before take-off ... the Ukrainian knew this sign, and the mattress ...
    as they say, instructions are written in blood, in front of you crashed aviators
  18. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 19 October 2018 16: 13
    Barmaley repulsed the hunt, climb the dill sky !!! They really do not like to die in foreign territories.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 19 October 2018 16: 24
    First of all, it is worth noting that not only Ukrainians, but also Americans see the mess in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Based on the analysis of the situation, the help of Americans begins to be systematized. Here from here it was no longer just deliveries of B / C uniforms, rations and broken HMMWVs, they accepted everything for nothing, and the appearance of counter-battery combat radar, sniper weapons, communication systems, anti-tank systems. I think after this incident, the assistance will be even more specialized, it will also come to aviation. It all depends on the question being asked at a certain stage, if the Americans want an aggravation, I think in Ukraine just rush weapons
  20. Catfish
    Catfish 19 October 2018 18: 13
    Quote: rocket757
    Quote: NordUral
    they have nothing to do near our borders

    They climbed into our territory. Where many have relatives and relatives !!!
    There will be no clear heaven for them, no peace, but peace alone, forever !!!

    Why such a joyful dance, or rather just a Sabbath on the site? People died, two pilots who did not do anything bad to anyone present here, and the Ukrainian pilot in general may be "NATIVE and CLOSE" to someone with whom you, Viktor regularly communicate, and maybe be friends.
    Why, when some thugs kill children in an American school, everyone sincerely (I really hope) condolences to their relatives, friends and the country as a whole. And the pilot who died by coincidence causes a storm of delight. After all, he is NOT an enemy, he is just a PROBABLE enemy, and it is not he who determines the policy of his country. Or did he personally kill someone you know? You should still try to be human and know when to stop in your "hurray-patriotic" frenzy.
    I hate Bandera's rump and despise the current Ukrainian government, and, to be honest, I don't have a very good attitude towards ours either. But with such a heart-rending howl (this is not only for you), rejoice at what happened ... Some tragic events in our country and the joyful reaction of a certain kind of public are involuntarily recalled - they say, "This is how these Russian bastards should!" Are we the same as them? I, at least, do not rejoice in someone else's misfortune.

    Quote: Bearded
    Clear skies 2018. -2 fascists. Do not remember, do not grieve. Generally on the ear.

    This is even "on the ear", and thanks for that. Pathetic foolishness. tongue
    1. Paul Bayan
      Paul Bayan 19 October 2018 18: 44
      These losses will not do anything to us !!! And at 14 this dead subhuman could also accidentally turn on the air conditioning in Lugansk (((((.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 20 October 2018 01: 03
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Why such a joyful whistle

      Come on, Konstantin, this is ostentatious neatness. Games in D'Artagnan, eprst ... Yes, acting like a fool is worthless, but smearing snot on this matter is at least silly (if not tougher).
      Quote: Sea Cat
      He’s NOT an enemy, he’s just a PROBABLE adversary, and he does not determine the policy of his country.
      Yeah, he just implements it with all his zeal. A small reference to the date is 2.06. 2014, Lugansk, there’s a lot of video on the network - it makes sense for you to reconsider, if you haven’t seen it, and take off all the tearfulness at Petrenko and his passenger.
      Quote: Sea Cat
      At least I’m not happy about someone else’s misfortune.

      And it’s too early to rejoice, while it only makes sense to fix (but not reflex) the dry residue. And in the bottom line we have: for materiel - minus one, for l / s - minus two. Something like this.
  21. ComDiv
    ComDiv 19 October 2018 19: 00
    Why photographs from the cemetery of abandoned aircraft (dump dump of the Air Force Museum in Monino), pass off the current state of the Ukrainian Air Force ???
    Boris Dzherelievsky, you need to be more objective and give verified information
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 20 October 2018 13: 14
      It’s just that many authors on VO have already become a rule
      Having quickly scrolled through the Internet, scrape together the more terrible pictures, concoct a more terrible note and "give it to the mountain." Then the collective of couch patriots picks up all this with a friendly howl on the theme "they all burn in hell ..." or "they are all fascists from the junta ..", stars, titles are pouring in ... Get used to it!
  22. RoTTor
    RoTTor 19 October 2018 23: 04
    Begging for handouts of the American aviation second
  23. Troll
    Troll 19 October 2018 23: 18
    The Soviet planes will run out, NATO will send them American ones. Either on credit or, as in the Baltic states, they will "close the sky" themselves.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 20 October 2018 02: 05
      Do not send. No one is sent.
  24. EvilLion
    EvilLion 20 October 2018 02: 05
    Aircraft - ghosts. They died back in 91, but everyone doesn’t find peace. One is finally tormented.
  25. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 October 2018 12: 14
    The moral of this fable is as follows ... The flight resource of the Ukrop Letakov is practically at "zero" ... Such exercises will quickly "finish off" him ...
  26. Catfish
    Catfish 20 October 2018 13: 17
    Quote: Paranoid50

    Come on, Konstantin, this is ostentatious neatness. Games in D'Artagnan, eprst ... Yes, acting like a fool is worthless, but smearing snot on this matter is at least silly (if not tougher).

    Good afternoon, Alexander!

    I think you are wrong.
    1 /. I have never suffered from clean-up.
    2 / .D "Artagnan is simple in my opinion.
    3 / .And about snot, I’m sure that you are a little older than you and your snot
    lost for a long and unrighteous life. And I probably have more experience,
    and a smaller snot.
    It's just disgusting to watch when people, as if on command,
    attacking someone like a pack of rabid dogs.

    I know more about Lugansk than you, my son fought for six months in Bakhmutka. When he returned, he advised to throw out the TV. Still, he didn’t throw the box, his wife is against it, but I don’t turn it on myself. hi
  27. Ivan Vasilievich
    Ivan Vasilievich 21 October 2018 05: 25
    Virtual country)) As if from Stalker the name of the exercises was taken
  28. igog
    igog 21 October 2018 09: 14
    Today, Ukraine is a premature, miserable, lousy parody of their idol, whom they worship - fascist Germany. And we, now, are not the USSR with Stalin, but Ukraine is lower than the city sewer, and maybe lower.
  29. monster
    monster 21 October 2018 13: 18
    In this news, the FSE is wonderful !!! And it's not just sug, it's SUG laughing
  30. Dr.KonradMorgen
    Dr.KonradMorgen 24 October 2018 00: 58
    "27 years old unrepaired aircraft" last renovated this year.