Even smarter. Will F-22 learn to ignore C-400?

In the United States of America decided to strengthen the combat power of the newest F-22 Raptor fighters of the country. We are talking about equipping the F-22 with advanced versions of AIM-9X and AIM 120-D smart rockets. Improved modifications of air-to-air missiles have an increased range of target damage than their predecessors. This, as noted, can allow the Raptor pilots to strike, without entering the enemy's area of ​​destruction with anti-aircraft defenses.

In addition to increased range, updated missile modifications allow you to attack targets from large angles with an increased probability of hitting.

In fact, we are talking about upgrading the AIM-9X to the so-called Block II (the second generation of these aviation missiles). It is strange that the American press is only now writing about the readiness of the United States to equip the F-22 with these weapons, because back in 2016 it became known that the States were signing contracts for the supply of AIM-9X Block II to a number of foreign countries, including, for example, Poland. In fact, the deployment of these weapons in Poland can mean only one thing: an attempt to "counter" the Russian S-400 air defense system deployed in the Kaliningrad region. For Poland, an option is provided for equipping F-16 aircraft with these missiles.

What is different about upgrading the AIM 120-D rocket? An improved version of it, as stated, has additional possibilities for maneuvering and countering the capabilities of air defense systems. The missile is equipped with the latest radar guidance, which allows to increase the effectiveness of the missile.

Comments

[A good one]

They learn from mistakes, as it were not too late, and the subsequent demonstration of debris around the world is not ruled out.

[CERBERFOL]

So soon the Jews will appear. No wonder they began to bomb Lebanon. Then the planes sharply turned and I will work through Syria, it is possible that these missiles

[bessmertniy]

It will go so further - they will not take off - they will start firing directly from their airfields.

[SSR]

Quote: bessmertniy

It will go so further - they will not take off - they will start firing directly from their airfields.

This is if about the Jews and the Americans can simply equip the "trident" with the usual stuffing and shoot at Afghanistan and the BV without entering the air defense zones
Imha.
To achieve the goal, one or another weapon is selected, and if the aircraft builds up attacks with VZ missiles without entering the air defense zone, then this aircraft must meet long-range explosive missiles.

[Locksmith]

Quote from S.S.R.

the Americans might just need to equip the "trident" with ordinary stuffing and shoot at Afghanistan and the BV without entering the air defense zones
Imha.

"Bad Lama" (C) cannot be so heartless, they are also almost people - even though they are Americans
PS: the launch of a ballistic missile in the direction of Russia entails an automatic launch of our missiles in the direction of the "launcher", and only then !!! will (maybe) figure it out ...

[Oden280]

What does land bombing and air-to-air missiles have to do with it? What will they shoot down? SAM S-300? This is generally from the realm of unreal fiction. If by planes, then for this they will still have to enter the air defense zone.

[rocket757]

In any case, the technique of birds and those who hunt them, becomes "smarter" .... such a "competition" of who is who.
There are no non-shooting down aircraft, no rockets that shoot down everything in a row.
Perhaps we will see the results of this "competition", but better not!

[bald]

I don’t know how you are doing there, we have good weather (good weather) - good morning Victor. After the army, I worked for a long time as a traffic controller (military commissar), albeit before 91 - but this insight is good (from the idea, further development, creation, testing, etc. along the chain.). You just can’t imagine how meticulous it was for us (ON FLIGHT Chelyabinsk), not to mention cover measures, if at what stage of the product someone makes a mistake (up to the designers) - one hell will catch her at another stage, how much I personally caught shit (tech. errors). It was all until the 90th. I’m what it is for - we were then at a level that did not allow any state to keep up with us - otherwise we would gobble up for a long time - here they still have one goal of our collapse - disinformation from the inside, and they are not capable of more - not a single one the state cannot immediately give as many minds (I'm talking about science) as the USSR - Russia. You said very well in your comment - one to one.

[rocket757]

Т

Quote: bald

You just can’t imagine how meticulous it was with us

And you know, imagine!
Morning and we have a good weather, you will not wish for better! Hi Vladimir
I didn’t finish the service either after being sent to the reserve. We can say by profile, only on a more global scale .... I remember perfectly well how carefully we made our products from and to installation on objects. And sho is PZ, design support and responsibility for mistakes .... we all went through this, who worked for the defense industry.
I won’t say that everything was so cloudless with us, but we could always repulse a potential adversary, real and final.
Even now, many of the designs of the past years are being modernized quite successfully, and they are no less fearful. This is the kind of design groundwork that Soviet technology has.
The fact that they are now trying to defame our youth is accustomed to the idea that all Soviet is sucks .... there is such a thing, I’m at war with how I can!
Nothing, OUR cause is right and the enemy we can clean the mint forever!

[bald]

Thank you very much, believe me, they are their global judge, they have lagged behind us for a long time, I even think that it is so, not without our internal help (traitors at the highest level,
what's this !!! - who bought - who handed over the old technology to China and this new Ukraine and our sworn. Damn me, they hung me up with an all-pervasive condom - so as not to leak - but they knock - those who have a position, by the way - let it go - the office - you don't live badly - take heart. If you wish, you can raise everything - but you can see the interests.

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[rocket757]

Nothing, Nitsche, we will not die alive and will break through as always!
Of course, I don’t cherish our upper illusions, but the feeling of self-preservation should work for them too, they have to lose here, and then over the hill, they will be robbed like a su-sous-dog mommy of cats!
In the cartoon about the return of the prodigal parrot, i.e. our fat bellys are already in the "friendly" family of international capital, and they do not believe, the majority, but here they cannot do without us IN ANY WAY .... we just don’t hang our ears on various promises and together, stand our ground!
It’s so good to live, but it’s so wonderful at home!

[NEXUS]

Quote: rocket757

There are no non-shooting down aircraft, no rockets that shoot down everything in a row.

Missiles for fighters are very limited by the dimensions of this carrier itself. The same Triumphs have larger missiles and the opportunity to improve them, make them smarter, fly further, much more than the developers of smart missiles for fighters.
It is clear that an air-to-surface missile does not need to overcome the attraction of the earth at launch, and it can already get a decent range due to the height of a flying carrier, but ... the S-400 is only the last line of defense and that missile launched from an aircraft is still it is necessary to go through complexes of short and medium range.

[rocket757]

The S-400 long-range missiles have just proactive, destroying carriers, aircraft, reconnaissance-gunners and other interfering ones!
You know, you used to hold a memory device on the Feeds in your hands, for those objects that fly very far .... the dimensions and weight of the hoo!
Now a block with such a volume of memory, size-mm ... in a microscope to consider it.
Those. in the same dimensions, on previous products we can cram such a smart device. you wonder.
We, with my wards, collect air models, so there are such stray for him !!! And there are servo mechanisms with a fingernail, control units, and what kind of batteries you’ll pump out ... at what, you can greatly upgrade a good product, saving on weight and dimensions due to new technologies!

[Galleon]

Long-range air-to-air missiles across Syria? keep yourself together.

[bald]

Andrei, even with real technology, if you shot down a rocket and its carrier - you must firstly --- you need cofideration of systems, and this, roughly speaking, is your own alien. Missiles are not crammed with all this stuff. But only you know, you think about not just there some sort of encoded frequencies - ours think about the results --- your pissing - and where to go. Honestly, our sciences would have done everything without vases. Men are smart and not easy.

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[Titsen]

As Zhirinovsky announced - we will supply the S-600 and S-700!

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Titsen

As Zhirinovsky announced - we will supply the S-600 and S-700!

Apparently he was already delivered from Argentina or Colombia ...

[Same lech]

Even smarter. Will F-22 learn to ignore C-400?

How is that ... if a rocket flies into his ass with greetings from the S-400 ... attention still has to be paid ... it will be painful.
The unfortunate F-22s were very unlucky in the USA after the recent hurricane ... they say seventeen F-22s went into the wreck ... it’s necessary that nature raged on them.

[KCA]

At the base there were 17, but six wings were tired, they could not fly away ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

it is necessary as nature raged on them.

Yes, they don't think about mattresses. It is worth considering how to teach the "lizards" not to pay attention to natural disasters.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Dear VO, you published this news a couple of months ago, and on other resources it was a year before.
Although ... maybe the Pentagon just announces everything, but it just can't take the AIM 120-D and AIM-9X Block II into service?

[faiver]

I'm already used to "double" news here

[Fedorov]

Does anyone even know the characteristics of the S - 400? I spent two years with the secret h "emodan". And in the "secret" as "the commander of a training platoon, and there was already" everything. Believe me, the characteristics in open sources Understated. she is the "Triumphant. "Triumph for export.

[voyaka uh]

I don’t know which S-400s are real
characteristics, but it’s easy to catch electronic warfare. The F-16 attack on Latakia, directly opposite Hmeimim, they did not notice at all.

[Piramidon]

Quote: voyaka uh

The F-16 attack on Latakia, directly opposite Hmeimim, they did not notice at all.

Was he sitting at the S-400 console or was looking over the operator’s shoulder?

[voyaka uh]

This was clear from the statements of the MO. They calculated the time of the Israeli attack indirectly - counted back after the bombings on the ground and the reaction of the Syrian air defense. And if there is radar data, then this is superfluous - time is marked.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: voyaka uh

This was clear from the statements of the MO. They calculated the time of the Israeli attack indirectly - counted back after the bombings on the ground and the reaction of the Syrian air defense. And if there is radar data, then this is superfluous - time is marked.

Everyone understands the extent of their depravity.

[SETTGF]

voyaka uh! You are so illiterate ... Do not write nonsense, showing your denseness!

[Belui]

That’s all fifth generation invisibility. To not see you, you just need not to go into the enemy’s air defense zone and you are invisible.

[igorbrsv]

Yes, I still do not understand how air-to-air missiles will help them from the S-400.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: igorbrsv

Yes, I still do not understand how air-to-air missiles will help them from the S-400.

it all depends on the theater of operations, if the "raptor" launches a missile camouflaged by the folds of the terrain, with the lowest possible altitude for launch, then it is quite possible that the S-400 will not see it.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

if the "raptor" launches a missile camouflaged by the folds of the terrain, with the minimum possible for launch

AIM9X on C400? How can you explain, and most importantly why?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Puncher

AIM9X on C400?

where did I say that on the S-400?

[Mountain shooter]

And what, the carrier will not be visible to our air defense? And what does the rocket have to do with it? They will beat the carriers. And missiles are secondary. This is not Syria, where only missiles were shot down, and "did not work" on delivery vehicles

[rotmistr60]

You never know what the Americans say, whose aviation has not yet encountered the S-400. Sofa from Israel have long since "defeated" the S-300, and some of them have already managed the S-400, but this, as you understand, is far from reality.

[Piramidon]

Quote: rotmistr60

Sofa from Israel have long since "defeated" the S-300, and some have already managed the S-400

God-chosen "Voyaka uh" has already been noted above. He himself saw that the S-400 did not see anything.

[Tusv]

Do not pay, but tell fortunes on coffee grounds, to which complex were 2 successful trials over the past year

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Tusv

Do not pay, but tell fortunes on coffee grounds, to which complex were 2 successful trials over the past year

"Nudol" ...

[FRoman1984]

I don't quite understand what has to do with the S-400. These missiles are air-to-air. Another thing is that they can be dangerous for our Su-35, Su-30, since the R-77 lags far behind in range. He was the first to notice, he was the first to fire without even entering the affected area, and no maneuvering combat at close distances is a modern reality.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: FRoman1984

I don't quite understand what has to do with the S-400. These missiles are air-to-air.

Yes, nothing to do with it. The author is a complete layman who has no idea what air-to-air missiles are and what they are intended for. His task is to launch the cartoon "Americans are fools against c400 suckers can do nothing", this does not require knowledge and logic. Note that 90% of commentators don't think about this either, picking up the mood of the article. The degradation of this resource has been written for a long time and it continues.

[ANCIENT]

need to repeat operation 'estonia' , and `` lost '' another and such a rocket, and we will study it and find out if it is as good as the US press squeals about it

[Vard]

"The missile is equipped with the latest radar guidance" it seems that the main means of fighting these missiles will not be the S-400, but the electronic warfare ... For which we have a clear advantage ...

[mvg]

and EW ... For which we have a clear advantage ...

What does the electronic warfare and all-aspect missile "in-in" close combat have to do with it?
And in terms of electronic warfare, the Americans have been exploiting the Growlers, Sentry, Hockey, (anti-submarine Poseidons, Orions) for a couple of decades now, and how to say, while their electronic warfare came out victorious, against our air defenses. And we must not forget about Israel, they also have a lot of their own developments.
PS: So far, the Krasukhs have not landed anyone, and the axes have flown in Syria as they are. Just like the Jewish "Delilah"

[Piramidon]

Quote: mvg

axes both flew in Syria and fly

Straight every day in packs?

[mvg]

flock day

And 104 pieces are not a flock? We are glad when we released 8 "calibers" and watched each one as it didn’t fly there ... we are worried that it doesn’t crash in Iran and the staff don’t waste time on trifles.

[Piramidon]

Quote: mvg

And 104 pieces - this is not a flock?

When was it and how many times? And you alter the information so that you can understand that they are there all the time, almost every day they fly in flocks. Your words? - "as they flew in Syria, so they fly."

[mvg]

and fly

What has changed? There will be a provocation, there will be flocks .. This is a salvo of one Tycanander or Ohio. And not one Krasukha will lower a hundred KR from heaven to sinful earth. Especially with the television seeker, which is in the way of interference.
PS: And if an African-American is also put behind the helm of the Kyrgyz Republic ... with a jamb, then the tochnik will fly.

[Piramidon]

Quote: mvg

There will be a provocation, there will be flocks ..

So write about what really is, not your assumptions. And then, according to your comment, everything has disappeared and "axes" are constantly flying over Syria.

[mvg]

Already gone

26, 59, 104 - this is the number in the salvoes of the KR, not counting the pinpoint strikes of Israel, 3-16 KR "in-in", how do you count? Are they just flying? From nothing to do? Spun and flew back?

[Piramidon]

Quote: mvg

Spinning and flying back?

All this data is half a year or more old, and you wrote - "as they flew, so they fly." How many are flying there now?

[mvg]

Yes, less than a month has passed since the collapse of the IL-20. Right now they’ll figure out what's what, and again they will start flying and bombing. Doubt it?

[Piramidon]

And what have the "axes" over Syria, which, according to you, are constantly flying there ?! Then the attack was carried out by F-16, which were 70 km west of the coast of Syria. In general, I understand you - they wrote something without hesitation, and now you get out.

[mvg]

conducted f-16

I will say more, then the GBU-39 was bombed, this is a guided bomb, with a maximum range of up to 110 km, but this does not change the essence. This is to the fact that as different KR flew, whether it be an ax, a dalla, an atomax, a French storm or something else, they will fly if they really need to destroy something, despite the presence of the S-300/400/500 / 600 ... or whatever Volodya Volfovich has already come up with ..
Yes, and the West will be a drummer who sits at the remote control of the air defense system, Syrians, Iranians or Russian specialists. And the case of the IL-20 showed it. You came to war, so you are ready to die .. for denyuzhku or for an idea .. in the latter, I strongly doubt it.

[Locksmith]

Quote: mvg

And 104 pieces - this is not a flock?

Judging by the results, a small jamb (the jamb happened with the guidance system and the PB )
It is not clear who stood up for whom, whether Krasukha for his own people, or his own for Krasukha, but the fact is fixed on the face of the planet - "they didn’t give the tiger meat !!!" (C), That is, the hatchets did not reach the goal.

[mvg]

hatchets have not reached the target

It’s you, our MO, who listened to the dash, looked at the dash? Which in 3 days 4 times changed the numbers? They shot down 101 out of 104, then the digit fell to 77, then to 36, and then they generally said that something, like, was shot down, and that something (a couple of pieces) themselves fell ...
And who to believe? Amer, who really destroyed all the declared targets or our MO, which is changed in "flight" for a couple of days.
PS: And they examined this topic in VO ... The fact that the targets were destroyed, and those fragments that showed on the box, from 2-3 missiles, well, not from 100. In the trunk of the Lada all fit together

[Locksmith]

Quote: mvg

It’s you, our MO, who listened to the dash, looked at the dash?

In addition to our MO, which by the way is very "tenderly" presented on the air, there are other channels - my opinion is a generalization over these several months

[Svat]

Looking at the characteristics of the RVV-BD and the S-400, and comparing them with the aforementioned AIM-9X and AIM 120-D - either I don't understand something, or "someone" cannot read ...

[SSR]

Quote: Svat

Looking at the characteristics of the RVV-BD and the S-400, and comparing them with the aforementioned AIM-9X and AIM 120-D - either I don't understand something, or "someone" cannot read ...

Yes, that's just the point, the elephant's ears pulled to a hippopotamus and said op-pa! The title of the article itself is confusing.

Even smarter. Will F-22 learn to ignore C-400?

Mixed in a bunch of people, horses.

[BAI]

Advanced Modifications to Class Missiles "Air-to-air"

And here is the S-400 in the title? When did the S-400 learn to fly?

[g1washntwn]

The news is more about the development of countermeasures to the interception of V-V missiles. An anti-missile missile is being created with the AIM-120 base, but it comes with the NCADE code. I have not seen anything about work in the fourth block of the AIM-120 to increase maneuverability. Gas-dynamic belt? Hardly. A "sidewinder" is generally a melee missile with a range of 18 kopecks. They are trying to improve the range on it, but this is not at all AIM-9X.

[Ross xnumx]

Even smarter. Will F-22 learn to ignore C-400?

It sounds like: In the USA they will teach how to walk with bare hands against a brown bear. The only thing that remains in question is a quick and safe return after such trips ...

[sgrabik]

I hope that Russian designers and engineers, too, will not sit back and do nothing and will soon find ways to effectively counter the updated American missiles.

[Alexey-74]

S-400s are under the cover of "Shell", I hope this bundle will be used everywhere.

[Ros 56]

During the Second World War there was long-range artillery, machine guns, tanks, planes, and, as they say, I don’t want to hit. But they still went to the bayonet, and today they go, though not in human chains, but nonetheless. Conclusion - the technique is good, but no technique will lure a person, at least shoot for three hundred kilometers, but on the earth a person will still be the first.

[MIG00001]

It turns out that the United States recognized that the C400 sees the F-22

[askort154]

voyaka uh ....I don’t know which S-400s are real
characteristics, but it’s easy to catch electronic warfare. The F-16 attack on Latakia, directly opposite Hmeimim, they did not notice at all.

Not tired of trolling ? Or is it a side job ?!

[Locksmith]

Quote: askort154

Not tired of trolling? Or is it a side job ?!

This is not the first time I have noticed - there is a "bazaar" about tanks, about airplanes, about air defense missiles, about - well, about anything !! "And the ranks of non-Russian heroes rise from the land of Israel, not for fear, but for money !!!"

[HMR333]

says do not pay attention it will not hurt once and all))))

[Frau]

The most important weapon among Russians is endurance, adequacy

[san4es]

We are talking about equipping the F-22 with advanced versions of the AIM-9X and AIM 120-D smart missiles.

[Cannonball]

Why does the S-400 even need to shoot down "smart" American missiles?
When he is quite capable of shooting down carriers of these missiles at double launch range.

[gregor6549]

I have long been refraining from commenting because there are more than them without my comments. But now could not resist. This short article is about the modernization of a long-known rocket in order to increase the chances of its carriers to survive the impact of the air defense systems of a potential enemy. And the odds are: whether it will survive or not. And the chances of С400 to counter such threats are also clear for now ... like a hedgehog in a fog.
Everything goes according to the old scheme of the world: the means of protection are being improved. Improvements and means to overcome this protection. Something is sometimes lagging behind, something is sometimes ahead, but in general, in all the post-war time, no country has been able to achieve an overwhelming advantage in weapons systems over a country with a comparable level of development.
The fact that every sandpiper praises its own swamp is also understandable. Everyone wants to earn money and without advertising it is difficult.
This is how all these old non-strategic systems, including С400 and the rocket considered in the article, will show themselves in a full-scale conflict a big question. Most likely, because everything can end sooner than it comes to such a system.