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Turkey - Russian Armed Forces: Do not appear in Idlib, we do not guarantee security

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Today, the Russian military police, together with the Turkish military, was supposed to start joint patrols in the so-called demilitarized zone of Idlib province. Earlier, the Turks assumed obligations to ensure the withdrawal of military equipment and other weapons from the area. Some time ago it became known that Turkey appealed to the Russian Federation with a request to postpone the entry of Russian troops into the demilitarization zone.


Turkey - Russian Armed Forces: Do not appear in Idlib, we do not guarantee security


The explanation from the Turkish side is as follows:
For our part, we cannot provide guarantees of complete security.


At the same time, it is known that the Russian military were ready to begin the patrolling in the demilitarized zone in the morning. But this did not happen in the evening of Monday. When the entry of the Russian military police into Idlib will take place, it does not say how there are no specific reasons why the Turkish troops do not guarantee the safety of the Russian military.

However, these reasons were indirectly mentioned several weeks ago.

The Turkish contingent in Idlib had serious problems with the fulfillment of its obligations. Several radical groups simply refused to fold weapon and go beyond the delineated demilitarized zone. There are still gangs on this territory that are not going to leave it and withdraw their weapons from there. Is Turkey really unable to influence the militant leaders in Idlib, or deliberately does not want to do this?

If the situation on voluntary demilitarization comes to a standstill, what will the contingents of the Russian Federation and Turkey do? Will the Syrian army have the opportunity to clean up the territory, which is now occupied by terrorists?
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  1. A good one
    A good one 15 October 2018 18: 11
    +12
    The Turks are afraid of losing their importance, and hence the "legitimacy" of their presence in Syria.
    1. Granddad
      Granddad 15 October 2018 18: 23
      -1
      The Turkish contingent in Idlib had serious problems with meeting its obligations.

      Everything went to this .. Can help, all the devils know us there ..?
      We will fly to Allah together with the Syrian troops ..
    2. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 15 October 2018 18: 31
      +2
      “Do not believe the three: don’t believe the woman, don’t believe the Turk, don’t believe the drinker.” (Peter I)
    3. Megatron
      Megatron 15 October 2018 19: 21
      -1
      Military personnel, or ballerinas? Can't stand up for themselves?
    4. d1975
      d1975 15 October 2018 20: 55
      0
      I don’t know why you need 4+, but only Russia and Iran have legitimacy. You have forgotten the mattresses. wassat
  2. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 15 October 2018 18: 12
    -1
    Yes, bombing both militants and Turks there, as their sponsors and defenders. As far as you can repeat, the phrase-Turk should not be believed - for us it should be the basis of our actions in the region. 1000 percent sure that the Turks are playing their game, and there is no place our military, or even peacekeepers in the region. in vain we saved the erdogadin ...
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 15 October 2018 18: 27
      +6
      Quote: ANCIENT
      yes to bomb both militants and Turks there,

      so, what is next ? How to supply Tartus with Khmeimim?
  3. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 15 October 2018 18: 12
    +8
    If these "tomatoes" cannot guarantee security and ensure the demilitarization of the territories, then let them flee ahead of their own screeching abroad from Syria, as otherwise they will fall under the distribution of "demilitarization gifts" from the RF Aerospace Forces.

    Such an answer to Russia would be fair.
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  5. Berkut24
    Berkut24 15 October 2018 18: 32
    +4
    Do not appear in Idlib, we do not guarantee security

    As if, when Russia was tired of this viper, Turkey did not hear the same words ...
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 15 October 2018 18: 37
    +4
    The Turks want to remain the sole owners of the region as long as possible, to build an enclave management scheme for themselves.
    1. Grits
      Grits 15 October 2018 20: 57
      0
      The Turks spat on everything. Idlib is almost their territory. As indeed Afrin.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 15 October 2018 21: 16
        +2
        Quote: Gritsa
        The Turks spat on everything. Idlib is almost their territory. As indeed Afrin.

        Don't say gop until you jump.
        1. Grits
          Grits 15 October 2018 21: 19
          0
          Here and without "gop" it is clear that there is no one to knock them out. Russia will not butt the Turks. Otherwise, the Turks will block the straits, which will be tantamount to an attack on the throat of our group. The Syrians all the more - they won't have enough strength. Otherwise, besides Idlib and Afrin, the Turks will also cut off Aleppo with a part of Hama from Syrian territory.
          1. Rostislav
            Rostislav 15 October 2018 23: 36
            +3
            Ek, you have enough. Overlapping the straits will mean that the Turks declare war on Russia. Erdogasha, of course, still that sv @ los, but not fools.
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 16 October 2018 20: 28
            +1
            Quote: Gritsa
            Otherwise, the Turks will block the straits, which will be tantamount to an attack on the throat of our group

            Turkey has few problems, they still need a war with the Russians, I understand correctly?
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 15 October 2018 18: 45
    +1
    For our part, we cannot provide guarantees of complete security.
    .... And now, figure out what happened during that time. Ilya’s Slanting’s hundred ran into an ambush. By chance, you say? They sent to the old farmhouse for bread - not a grain, as by agreement. And the fact that the pestilence passed between the horses was watered with pickled water. The Cossack sent to you ... scout. (C)
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 October 2018 18: 57
    +5
    The Turks took Idlib for themselves, why did they need Russia there. Assad, no one has been asking for a long time what he wants.
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 October 2018 19: 06
    +6
    With such an ally as the Turks, one must have eyes on the back of the head.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 15 October 2018 20: 13
      +6
      Quote: Captive
      With such an ally as the Turks, one must have eyes on the back of the head.

      and who said that Turkey is an ally?
      1. Igor Levertov
        Igor Levertov 16 October 2018 19: 32
        0
        Temporary travel companion and then unreliable.
  10. Zlat070
    Zlat070 15 October 2018 19: 11
    +3
    IMHO, it's not so simple! And the situation with bourgeois barmaleys is most unfavorable to the Sultan. This undermines its prestige, its significance. It turns out that he really does not solve anything and can not guarantee! Next time, the Dark One will no longer listen to him. And the other partners will not take his initiatives seriously and will not take him into a conversation with big uncles! Therefore, Erdogan in this situation loses significant political weight. He must show that he can really decide something, otherwise ...
  11. olefoks
    olefoks 15 October 2018 19: 17
    +1
    Found yourself an ally, I feel weep more
    1. BRJ
      BRJ 15 October 2018 19: 32
      +6
      Quote: olefox
      Found yourself an ally, I feel weep more

      And what's wrong with the "ally"?) request
      How was it "a month" ago? With Idlib, then?) When the entire "world society" threatened to punish the Russian Federation and Syria in the event of an Idlib attack am
      What do we have now?
      "World community" is silent yes
      Part of the gangs laid down their arms yes
      And all this without the participation of the aerospace forces and the MTR of the Russian Federation yes
      And this is not the end .. yes

      So what is the plan of the Russian Federation bad for?))
  12. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 15 October 2018 19: 30
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    The Turks took Idlib for themselves, why did they need Russia there. Assad, no one has been asking for a long time what he wants.

    Quite right. For example, the pro-Turkish "National Syrian Army" in Idlib continues to form the 3rd corps. When the Turks finish forming them, they will have a pocket army of 60 thousand from the Syrians.

    1. BRJ
      BRJ 15 October 2018 19: 52
      0
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Quote: Gardamir
      The Turks took Idlib for themselves, why did they need Russia there. Assad, no one has been asking for a long time what he wants.

      Quite right. For example, the pro-Turkish "National Syrian Army" in Idlib continues to form the 3rd corps. When the Turks finish forming them, they will have a pocket army of 60 thousand from the Syrians.


      Aaron hi
      And if this does not happen, are you ready to change the flag to Russian? winked
  13. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 15 October 2018 19: 32
    -1
    Hahaha, it’s fine - two SU34 so that everything is level, otherwise the Turks are still warriors .... they will bother with them for another ten years ....
    1. Grits
      Grits 15 October 2018 21: 02
      +2
      and then the Turks are still warriors .... will be messing with them for another ten years ....
      In any case, the Kurds in Afrin were rolled into a thin pancake, and quite quickly. Though not with his own hands, but still. This is even more literate.
  14. Radon
    Radon 15 October 2018 19: 33
    +4
    The conversation with the Turks and other Arabs is short. "Stop or I'll shoot."
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 15 October 2018 19: 43
      +1
      Nooo .... A step to the right, a step to the left, an attempt to escape, a jump on the spot is a provocation, in any case, we shoot without warning ... More reliable ...
    2. BRJ
      BRJ 15 October 2018 19: 55
      +1
      Quote: Radon
      The conversation with the Turks and other Arabs is short. "Stop or I'll shoot."

      Oh yes, you would have destroyed them all there with pleasure laughing
      They’ve already begun to bomb Libya!
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 15 October 2018 20: 04
        +1
        Quote: BRJ

        Oh yes, you would have destroyed them all there with pleasure laughing
        They’ve already begun to bomb Libya!

        Pancake fool ! Geography textbook open.
        1. BRJ
          BRJ 15 October 2018 20: 17
          -1
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: BRJ

          Oh yes, you would have destroyed them all there with pleasure laughing
          They’ve already begun to bomb Libya!

          Pancake fool ! Geography textbook open.

          But why? request Hezbollah is also in Africa, Hezbollah yes
          Who cares who you bomb? request
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 15 October 2018 20: 17
          +3
          What to do, the geography there is served in a peculiar way. They sho Libya, sho Lebanon one fig.
          On the other hand, he was not so mistaken in his assumption ..... reputation, however, sir.
          1. BRJ
            BRJ 15 October 2018 20: 23
            -1
            Quote: rocket757
            What to do, the geography there is served in a peculiar way. They sho Libya, sho Lebanon one fig.
            On the other hand, he was not so mistaken in his assumption ..... reputation, however, sir.

            He wasn’t wrong. wink
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 15 October 2018 20: 27
              0
              If the guys with the passeas of whom were bombed, you won’t get an answer from them ...... and the reputation is a fig, identity trifles, it does not spoil their appetites.
              1. BRJ
                BRJ 15 October 2018 20: 41
                -2
                Quote: rocket757
                If the guys with the passeas of whom were bombed, you won’t get an answer from them ...... and the reputation is a fig, identity trifles, it does not spoil their appetites.

                you will not get an answer from them

                Quite debatable. They’ve been trying with them for many years. ask... Yes, yes: "and what happened?", "Let them continue trying" and so forth .. They are there others! And this will continue yes
                Fuck yourself .. the country’s floor was just taken away, and they still bomb anyone they want! am (although not all)
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 15 October 2018 20: 46
                  0
                  Israel is a political experiment! Strong experimenters started it and did not abandon it, that’s the main thing .... but where there is money and other serious help, you can do a lot of things ......
                  the experimenters will disappear and the object of the experiment will not remain, Schaub they did not blather there!
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 16 October 2018 14: 28
                    +1
                    Quote: rocket757
                    Israel is a political experiment! Strong experimenters started it and did not abandon it, that’s the main thing .... but where there is money and other serious help, you can do a lot of things ......
                    the experimenters will disappear and the object of the experiment will not remain, Schaub they did not blather there!

                    The largest territorial conquests (the Six Day War of 1967) made the objects of the experiment without grants, which went later - and, as always, for advancement in research laughing
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 16 October 2018 15: 03
                      0
                      Yes, yes, and then he was opposed by such cool armies, such as the German one, from the time of the Reich.
                      I finally have never had anything against the elect, I’m exactly .... I sho they defeated their opponent, sales such as Arabs, it was necessary to show courage and ability, not a question!
                      Only to play long, and that’s why the conversation is now going on, they couldn’t have used it without outside help .... and their adversary has become much more organized over the past years, although they have remained as greyhounds, but in the same way their rams .... personal experience, you can’t throw it off.
  15. Fanis
    Fanis 15 October 2018 20: 13
    0
    This has never happened and here again request...
  16. REEKMAN
    REEKMAN 15 October 2018 20: 40
    0
    The performance dragged on, in my humble opinion. I am sure that all the alignments by the right people have been taken into account and there are also options for action.
  17. Shura Wii
    Shura Wii 15 October 2018 20: 41
    0
    Can Russia say the same to the Turks? And at the same time they plunged there plunge along with the terrorists, like, all of you on the same face.
  18. Yuri T.
    Yuri T. 15 October 2018 21: 02
    +1
    Maybe then the Aerospace Forces will be able to guarantee the safety of ours, and the Turks will say: "We, for our part, cannot provide guarantees of complete safety."
    1. BRJ
      BRJ 15 October 2018 21: 19
      0
      Quote: Yuri T.
      Maybe then the Aerospace Forces will be able to guarantee the safety of ours, and the Turks will say: "We, for our part, cannot provide guarantees of complete safety."

      I think this is not a good idea. No.
      After all, we have an agreement with Turkey. Let them decide yes
  19. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 15 October 2018 21: 49
    0
    Idlib impasse by the grace of the Turks. And they guaranteed a peaceful outcome in Idlib. But not all the militants turned out to be loyal to the Turks.
    1. BRJ
      BRJ 15 October 2018 21: 57
      0
      Quote: Anchonsha
      Idlib impasse by the grace of the Turks. And they guaranteed a peaceful outcome in Idlib. But not all the militants turned out to be loyal to the Turks.

      Deadlock Idlib by the grace of the Turks

      I don’t think. Russian Federation and SSA could attack Idlib!
      This is not the mercy of the Turks , this is the decision of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federationyes
      And they guaranteed a peaceful outcome in Idlib.

      So there is peace so far .. request
  20. keeper03
    keeper03 15 October 2018 22: 39
    0
    What was required to prove! Fell this gadyushnik on the principle - he who is not with us is against us !!! angry soldier
    1. BRJ
      BRJ 15 October 2018 23: 38
      0
      Quote: keeper03
      What was required to prove! Fell this gadyushnik on the principle - he who is not with us is against us !!! angry soldier

      And who will bring down? winked
  21. faterdom
    faterdom 15 October 2018 23: 02
    +2
    Give them a couple of weeks and get back to Plan A. If you do not want to live in an amicable way, you will live according to the charter. Anyway, Nusra should be harvested as much as possible.
  22. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 16 October 2018 07: 11
    +1
    Damn this geopolitics ... I would like to roll this Idlib along with the Turks and their hand barracks from Nusra, but the gas pipeline is being built bypassing Ukraine ...
  23. Igor Levertov
    Igor Levertov 16 October 2018 10: 38
    0
    And I would like to know where these gangs from Idlib will flow? To neighboring regions? So will these wolves run in circles? Why do we need this for the Syrians? The surest way to solve this problem is to strip Idlib at zero. But the Turks, in fact, unreliable fellow travelers, will sell and will not blink an eye. Erdogan is very cunning, in a word - Turk!
  24. LeonidL
    LeonidL 17 October 2018 02: 32
    +1
    It is necessary to clean not only ISIS, NUSRA and other Islamist manure, but also from the Turks.
  25. DimanC
    DimanC 17 October 2018 11: 40
    0
    Turks cannot guarantee security. Read it yourself and start an attack on ours