Rubicon crossed. The conflict between the United States and China is inevitable?

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It seems everything goes according to plan. American. The US Vice President Mike Pence, speaking at the Hudson Institute for Strategic Studies, made an important move in the upcoming confrontation with China: he tried to transfer the conflict from economic to a more serious, political level.





In fact, in his speech, Pence accused Beijing of attempting to intervene in the internal political situation in the United States. Moreover, he was not particularly embarrassed in expressions - in his words, China’s efforts exceed the so-called “Russian intervention” in scale.

What Russia is doing is turning pale compared to what China is doing throughout our country.


And more:

The worst thing is that China is making unprecedented attempts to influence the opinion of American society, the elections in the 2018 year, the situation that will lead to the presidential elections in the 2020 year. Frankly speaking, President Trump’s leadership is bearing fruit, and China wants another American president.


In his speech, he gave some examples of Chinese intervention in the upcoming congressional elections. In particular, he referred to “pressure groups” that were activated in some states; about the tariff policy of China, which is directed, first of all, against those states that are fundamentally important from the point of view of future (and crucial for Trump) elections; about blackmail by the Chinese leadership of some American companies that would like to maintain their presence in the Chinese market.

But this was not the end. From the American agenda, Pence moved on to the international one, and there, too, it was found that he presented to the insidious Chinese leadership. First of all, this is “debt diplomacy”, when China allegedly deliberately lends to developing countries around the world, hoping to secure their loyalty. He recalled to China and some "military tools" with which he tries to strengthen his position in Southeast Asia.

In general, the entire speech of the American Vice President was devoted to China. And the place where she was pronounced was not chosen by chance - after all, the “Institute for Strategic Studies” is not a party sidewalk.

In fact, Pence designated China as the main threat to America. At the same time, he himself was designated as an important shadow figure, representing circles that actually govern America, and authorized to proclaim crusades on behalf of these very circles.

In his recent article I already wrote about why China is so dangerous for the United States, as well as about why a fight between them is absolutely inevitable. Therefore, I will not repeat, but simply invite you to read that text. However, despite all the inevitability of the fight, the question of the date of its beginning remained open. Well, now, thanks to Mike Pens, we have some certainty.

An important difference between an economic dispute, even a very sharp one, from a political one, is that it is much more difficult to resolve a political one. Especially if one of the parties is not interested in such a settlement. Just imagine for a moment: China recognized US economic demands as fair and made concessions on all counts. In this case, the subject of the dispute can be considered exhausted, and China, albeit with considerable costs, gets a few more years to prepare for the coming confrontation.

With political accusations everything is much more complicated, as we can see from the example of the same accusations against Russia for interfering in the American elections. There can be no real basis under them at all, but at the same time they will live for even months, even years - just as much as the side that declares itself “injured” by someone else’s wants.

That is what matters. Speech by Mike Pence - Rubicon, stepping over which, the Americans made the bilateral conflict is not amenable to settlement. Remaining in a sense, the masters of the situation, they are now at their discretion can add or reduce the intensity of the conflict, depending on some of their local tactical tasks, but China will most likely fail to resolve it completely.

Another interesting point in the speech of the American Vice-President was a seemingly long-forgotten song about the absence of freedom in China, and that America was mistaken, expecting that the freedom triumphantly marching around the world would pave the way for itself in China . We all know well why Americans sing such songs. And woe to the one for whom they are singing - this will be confirmed by the inhabitants of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, if we suddenly lack our own memory.

It is no coincidence that right now in the American media there are rather strange stuffing, one way or another connected with the war against China. For example, the Heritage Foundation’s research institute in Washington recently published a study on an interesting problem such as the simultaneous US war against Russia and China. Yes, to our joy, the results of the study are not very comforting for America - threats to US national interests are considered too great.

Frankly, it is unlikely the Americans are really thinking about a full-fledged war with two nuclear powers. But this may well be a deliberate throw-in, the purpose of which is to demonstrate determination to go to the end.

In reality, the strategy of Washington is probably based on destabilizing and dismembering Russia with political methods, and then strangling China with sanctions.

But with the first point somehow still does not work. And the second without the first will be extremely difficult to implement.

But when did the Anglo-Saxons restrain difficulties?

So, the die is cast, Rubicon is crossed, and interesting news from the American-Chinese front will soon begin to come much more often. We wait…
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  1. +2
    8 October 2018 12: 08
    I don’t understand something ... And who a week ago said that “what Russia is doing, pales before what China is doing.” Decide, please.
    1. 0
      8 October 2018 12: 21
      (And who said a week ago) is a question or an empty statement. So who said decide, please?
    2. 0
      10 October 2018 15: 51
      Quote: 210ox
      I don’t understand something ... And who a week ago said that “what Russia is doing, pales before what China is doing.” Decide, please.

      Better the United States and China are at war. Maybe they will give odds to us for development. Opponents and the PRC are still our friends and us for the time being, until the Chinese in Siberia began to touch.
  2. +2
    8 October 2018 12: 09
    Trump wants to return production to the United States and is methodically moving towards this goal. Although more recently, experts have denied such an opportunity.
    1. 0
      8 October 2018 12: 12
      Quote: Smoked
      methodically goes to this goal

      And there are many Americans who, over 500 - 1000 "Baku", agree to promote Trump's ideas?
    2. -1
      8 October 2018 12: 20
      Oh how) with such a prime cost, these productions will die at the most in a year)))
    3. +2
      8 October 2018 12: 22
      The return of production will entail a reduction in unemployment. Increased tax collection.
      As well as a rise in price of products and a decrease in its competitiveness.
      This will lead to an increase in unemployment and a decrease in tax collection.
      Something like that, shorter.
      1. 0
        8 October 2018 14: 02
        started about leaving China and "China is the enemy" 10 years ago

        late
        but - VICTORY OF AMERICANISTS OVER GLOBALISTS - FACT
      2. 0
        8 October 2018 14: 22
        Quote: demo
        As well as a rise in price of products and a decrease in its competitiveness.

        Well, we introduced anti-sanctions and came to this, so began to live even better !!!!
        IMPORT SUBSTITUTION is this, and this according to Putin is good !!!!!
  3. +9
    8 October 2018 12: 20
    I have doubts that China poses such a great threat to the United States .. Yes, China is seriously strengthened .. but it is fixable .. and China has nothing else .. It's just a world factory, they have no resources ... So why then does the US put so much pressure on China? I think the Americans are just bargaining .. Now Trump will play a bad cop, tighten the screws to the Chinese .. another president will come and say .. let's be friends against Russia .. well, or something else to bargain .. I think the Chinese understand this, for this reason they are very careful with us .. Yes, friendly in words .. but with weak reinforcement in business ..
    1. +1
      8 October 2018 13: 19
      There are a lot of articles on the internet on the topic of how the US empire is decrepit and how rapidly China is growing, but we must not forget that China is in many ways the same paper tiger !!! China is still a divided country on the mainland and island and the Chinese, despite their huge army, navy and economic miracles, still can not solve the problem of Taiwan ...

      The People's Republic of China is ruled by the Communist Party and where are the screams about the terrible Chinese communism from the White House ??? ))) The Secretary General of the Communist Party of China not so long ago met with the British Queen and nothing - the British royal house did not collapse ... When the lords, sirs and peers smell the benefits - they quickly forget their arrogance and rush to trade ...
    2. +4
      8 October 2018 15: 58
      China and America, two pair boots. None of them can do without the other at present. They are more likely to unite to receive Russian resources than to gnaw their throats to each other. Stop doing utopian analytics. Currently, China is a global producer of what is being invented in the West. There are also enough raw materials in Africa, where there is no risk of getting a nuclear strike for seizing a deposit, but a slave. power is not worth printing ink on a dollar bill. However, our St. Petersburg Brotherhood will sell us at an affordable price along with giblets. hi
      1. 0
        12 October 2018 13: 36
        How right you are!
    3. +1
      9 October 2018 02: 20
      Does rare earth count?
      1. 0
        9 October 2018 03: 10
        Quote: besik
        Does rare earth count?

        They are both here and in China. Read a review on this topic. China sells out, ours are kept in the store for now. Approximately one third of the world's reserves are in Russia, but the "African option" will not work for us.
    4. 0
      10 October 2018 13: 31
      What are you? China is one of the most endowed countries in the world. Third place in the world in mineral reserves. A significant part of the resources has not yet been explored. The third country in the world in terms of area cannot be poor in minerals and other natural resources.
  4. +1
    8 October 2018 12: 34
    China needs another ten to two years. They need to create domestic consumption that supports the economy. Now China is easy to slam sanctions and the Chinese know it. The question is what the Americans are determined to attack economically and with sanctions now. Washington is unlikely to be able to restrain China in the long run, but tactical victories with sanctions are entirely possible and real.
  5. -1
    8 October 2018 12: 39
    Not so long remained until the centennial of the Inevitability of the conflict between China and the United States.
    Maybe start preparing to celebrate?
  6. +2
    8 October 2018 12: 43
    Trump felt for a weak link. China is critically dependent on US markets. How they pulled it out, having opened markets for it at one time, they will bury it. There is nothing to replace them. We decided to start from China.
    1. +1
      9 October 2018 03: 16
      Quote: vel1163
      the ramp has found a weak link. China is critically dependent on sales markets in the USA. How they pulled it out, having opened markets for it in due time, they will bury it. There is nothing to replace them. We decided to start from China

      And if they crush, then what will happen? The US economy will revive from the ashes, what about the Phoenix? :))) It seems to me that production will migrate to another country and nothing more. Cost has not been canceled
  7. +1
    8 October 2018 12: 43
    Well, economic pressure, political .... and striped can allow something else in relation to China ???
  8. BAI
    +4
    8 October 2018 12: 58
    What Russia is doing is turning pale compared to what China is doing throughout our country.

    Here he is right of course. It is enough to compare how many immigrants from China in the United States and how many from Russia. Especially when you consider that the Chinese do not lose touch with their homeland, and the Russians carefully dissociate themselves from it (or at least try not to remember).
    1. -1
      8 October 2018 13: 08
      Well, how they try not to remember. On YouTube, there are so many videos from the United States from former compatriots who compare life in Russia and the United States.
    2. -1
      8 October 2018 16: 09
      Quote: BAI
      Here he is right of course. It is enough to compare how many immigrants from China in the United States and how many from Russia. Especially when you consider that the Chinese do not lose touch with their homeland, and the Russians carefully dissociate themselves from it (or at least try not to remember).

      Like Zhvanetsky: "... Judging the taste by sound? ... How can a lame judge judge Fon Karoyan's work?" Maybe first visit abroad, talk with people, find out their mood, etc., and only then express an opinion? It seems to me that people in the Diaspora Abroad are more patriotic than Pahan and his servants. For their profit, they do not rob their compatriots by tens of millions. A few are dissociated, the rest remain actively forever tied to the Motherland. Don't judge by yourself. fool hi
      1. LMN
        +2
        9 October 2018 02: 09
        Quote: Dumb
        Quote: BAI
        Here he is right of course. It is enough to compare how many immigrants from China in the United States and how many from Russia. Especially when you consider that the Chinese do not lose touch with their homeland, and the Russians carefully dissociate themselves from it (or at least try not to remember).

        Like Zhvanetsky: "... Judging the taste by sound? ... How can a lame judge judge Fon Karoyan's work?" Maybe first visit abroad, talk with people, find out their mood, etc., and only then express an opinion? It seems to me that people in the Diaspora Abroad are more patriotic than Pahan and his servants. For their profit, they do not rob their compatriots by tens of millions. A few are dissociated, the rest remain actively forever tied to the Motherland. Don't judge by yourself. fool hi


        Maybe, first visit abroad, talk with people, find out their mood, etc., and only then express an opinion?

        Are you talking about comas? Here, on VO, where, according to the plan, there should be quite experienced people and understand the importance of international relations, as a living in Germany, I am simply a "Hermanian" for them, like a monkey laughing
        For half a year I tried to "convey" the mood, thoughts, information about what is happening in Germany and how the "people" relate to the Russian Federation. Pofig. I remained, as they recently said, just a "Herman" of which we have few on the site ... request

        If you want at least some kind of dialogue, you need to look for another site wink
        1. +1
          9 October 2018 02: 59
          Quote: LMN
          Maybe, first visit abroad, talk with people, find out their mood, etc., and only then express an opinion?

          Are you talking about comas? Here, on VO, where, according to the plan, there should be quite experienced people and understand the importance of international relations, as a living in Germany, I am simply a "Hermanian" for them, like a monkey
          For half a year I tried to "convey" the mood, thoughts, information about what is happening in Germany and how the "people" relate to the Russian Federation. Pofig. I remained, as they recently said, just a "Herman" of which we have few on the site ...

          If you want at least some kind of dialogue, you need to look for another site

          Did you think everything would be easy? Then you are on "anecdote.ru". For me, too, it is very difficult to conduct a dialogue with my compatriots, because if you are "over the hill", then you are an "enemy". The perception of expats by our compatriots has not changed since the days of the USSR. It is a fact. Sometimes it's easier for me to find a common language with the Irish than with the Russians. Therefore, I try to convey my point of view to the Irish using various forums. They are the same brainwashed by the "zombie box", like our population. Believe it or not, many Irish people still think that we have bears running through the streets, and the Russians kill everyone who is not like them. Everything is moving slowly. Irony and sarcasm work best. Try it and see that "the train started." In this forum, I try to maintain an independent point of view, although I do not always succeed. Let's do it together, because I will never be able to interrupt the "zombie box", as, for example, with the "pensioners dancing on a huge pension". For a start, they should explain the very social security system in the West. For example, the difference between Jobsiickers Elowns and Jobsiickers Benefit. What is "Housing Assistance" and how does it work .... It is easier to convey information about benefits for a person who has lost his job and is not left to die of hunger on the street .... leftovers. In reality, every unemployed person receives practically free housing and maintenance for half of the salary not received .... Tell your German friends about the state of Social Security in the Russian Federation. Who knows, maybe thanks to you this information will be announced at the meeting of the Leaders and become a topic of discussion? Thus, you will also influence our Padishah with his donkey in the form of the Grand Vizier. hi
          1. LMN
            +2
            9 October 2018 04: 07
            Quote: Dumb
            Quote: LMN
            Maybe, first visit abroad, talk with people, find out their mood, etc., and only then express an opinion?

            Are you talking about comas? Here, on VO, where, according to the plan, there should be quite experienced people and understand the importance of international relations, as a living in Germany, I am simply a "Hermanian" for them, like a monkey
            For half a year I tried to "convey" the mood, thoughts, information about what is happening in Germany and how the "people" relate to the Russian Federation. Pofig. I remained, as they recently said, just a "Herman" of which we have few on the site ...

            If you want at least some kind of dialogue, you need to look for another site

            Did you think everything would be easy? Then you are on "anecdote.ru". For me, too, it is very difficult to conduct a dialogue with my compatriots, because if you are "over the hill", then you are an "enemy". The perception of expats by our compatriots has not changed since the days of the USSR. It is a fact. Sometimes it's easier for me to find a common language with the Irish than with the Russians. Therefore, I try to convey my point of view to the Irish using various forums. They are the same brainwashed by the "zombie box", like our population. Believe it or not, many Irish people still think that we have bears running through the streets, and the Russians kill everyone who is not like them. Everything is moving slowly. Irony and sarcasm work best. Try it and see that "the train started." In this forum, I try to maintain an independent point of view, although I do not always succeed. Let's do it together, because I will never be able to interrupt the "zombie box", as, for example, with the "pensioners dancing on a huge pension". For a start, they should explain the very social security system in the West. For example, the difference between Jobsiickers Elowns and Jobsiickers Benefit. What is "Housing Assistance" and how does it work .... It is easier to convey information about benefits for a person who has lost his job and is not left to die of hunger on the street .... leftovers. In reality, every unemployed person receives practically free housing and maintenance for half of the salary not received .... Tell your German friends about the state of Social Security in the Russian Federation. Who knows, maybe thanks to you this information will be announced at the meeting of the Leaders and become a topic of discussion? Thus, you will also influence our Padishah with his donkey in the form of the Grand Vizier. hi

            Sometimes it's easier for me to find a common language with the Irish than with the Russians. Therefore, I try to convey my point of view to the Irish using various forums. They are the same brainwashed by the "zombie box", like our population.

            There are a lot of Russia on German TV lol And about difficult teenagers who are sent to re-education in the villages of the Russian Federation, about the nightlife of Moscow and St. Petersburg, about seriously ill children, whom our mother-heroines raise, about relatives who left for Germany 20 years ago and returned and much more Yes

            Let's do it together, because I will never be able to interrupt the "zombie box", as, for example, with the "pensioners dancing on a huge pension"

            We have such a German at our enterprise, Axel’s name. He has been working there for about 20 years. At some point, he allowed himself to state the following: There are a lot of Russians here. It stinks of Russians! (50% of the workers are Russians)
            For many years, he outcast! Yes and has breakfast, going outside, sitting on the curb.
            Collective mind still exists lol Visitors VO with the flag of the Russian Federation, this is not all Russia wink

            Each of us is Russia! From Italy, Ireland, Russia or Germany!
            And great that we are Yes
            1. 0
              9 October 2018 15: 04
              Quote: LMN
              We have such a German at our enterprise, Axel’s name. He has been working there for about 20 years. At some point, he allowed himself to state the following: There are a lot of Russians here. It stinks of Russians! (50% of the workers are Russians)
              For many years, he is an outcast! and has breakfast, going outside, sitting on the curb.
              Collective intelligence, there are still VO Visitors with the flag of the Russian Federation, this is not all Russia

              This is not possible in Ireland, unfortunately. Nationalism is going wild here. No one will tell you openly, but in everyday life this is a frequent occurrence. Spiritual proximity with the United States has an effect in all aggravation of contradictions between countries. In direct communication with people, this usually disappears, but it is impossible to establish communication with everyone directly. However, the attitude towards gastrobayters in the Russian Federation is not better. We will continue to live. Maybe with our small steps we will make the world a better place. Good luck to you.
            2. 0
              9 October 2018 15: 10
              Quote: LMN
              Visitors VO with the flag of the Russian Federation, this is not all Russia

              PS
              You can change the flag in your account at any time so as not to annoy the nationalists. hi
              1. LMN
                +2
                10 October 2018 01: 27
                Quote: Dumb
                Quote: LMN
                Visitors VO with the flag of the Russian Federation, this is not all Russia

                PS
                You can change the flag in your account at any time so as not to annoy the nationalists. hi

                This is not possible in Ireland, unfortunately. Nationalism is going wild here.

                Maybe relations with England play some role? Ireland, or rather, the citizens of Ireland, as I understand it, are not happy with the situation with Northern Ireland? request How can they be glad to "foreigners" when other foreigners have taken away part of their country ?! what
                Maybe with our small steps we will make the world a better place. Good luck to you.

                Maybe. wink
                And good luck to you drinks

                You can change the flag in your account at any time so as not to annoy the nationalists. hi


                I can, but I won’t wink
                Why ?? I have a "history" in the Russian Federation, I have "colleagues" in the Russian Federation, as the Russian Consulate in Germany confirmed to me, in "if something happens" I am protected, in this regard I am absolutely calm winked

                There are not many nationalists in fact Yes Most simply have nothing to compare with (which you mentioned above hi ), so you just have to "love" them lol
  9. +5
    8 October 2018 13: 03
    Russia, together with China, are heavenly angels in comparison with what the creature from hell called the United States creates. Almost the whole world agrees with this, only he is afraid to speak openly. And the stripes won’t do anything with China, they were afraid of the DPRK, and they’ll definitely become cold before the Chinese.
  10. 0
    8 October 2018 13: 04
    And this is not the Heritage Foundation research institute which every year compiles the Index of Economic Freedom around the world. The index of economic freedom in the world measures the degree to which countries' policies and institutions support economic freedom. The basis of economic freedom is personal choice, voluntary exchange, freedom to enter the market and compete, and ensuring the security of individuals and private property. Where such issues as, freedom of business, freedom of trade; tax freedom; freedom from government; monetary freedom; freedom of investment; financial freedom; protection of property rights; freedom from corruption; freedom of labor relations. I invite everyone who reads the comment to note exactly which freedoms the US State Department violates around the world. Economic and political sanctions, freezing of investments, financial assets and so on and so forth. The United States has just frozen the assets of Russian oligarch O Deripaska. Thanks to the US, are some countries more economically free than others? How can a state reduce or increase freedom?
  11. 0
    8 October 2018 13: 25
    And you in the USA think how it will end
    for your country
    Most likely as a war in Vietnam or Korea
    And if you connect other countries that the United States
    fed up with your idiocy?
    Then America is the end of what everyone dreams!
    1. +1
      8 October 2018 13: 35
      Calling the United States to think it over is as effective as calling Napoleon to think when Europe has already seized Europe and not go to war ... the USA is now in the euphoria of the winners that is how they position themselves on the international stage - you will recall at least one case in history when the conquerors stopped on the halfway ???...
      1. +1
        8 October 2018 15: 12
        Those. the learning curve is slightly lower than at zero? ALL conquerors sooner or later reached the moment when their conquered empire turned into dust overnight. In this case, the skill will stop and distinguish a fool from a smart one.
        1. 0
          8 October 2018 15: 51
          Approximately once every hundred years, the next conquerors of the world appear in the world !!! This time, Napoleon's laurels are clearly dreamed of by someone in the White House ... History does not teach anyone anything - this time the war is going on in all spheres of human activity - except for the traditional war, there is an information war, a chemical war (drugs) and a financial war. .. Even a new kind of war has been invented - gender war ... In the same militant West, a certain "third sex of man" has been invented, which is incredibly untwisted and which destroys the traditional foundations of the countries of the world and Europe, especially ...

          Given all of the above, a new attempt is made to conquer the world ... In fact, there are traditional stability centers (offshore zones) in the world that benefit from chaos in traditional centers of instability ... In eastern Europe, acute conflict topics and hot spots are specially promoted, while in Western Europe the themes were specially forgotten and the hot spots were extinguished !!! Here he is such a subtle Anglo-Saxon polites !!!
    2. -2
      8 October 2018 14: 28
      Quote: ggl1
      And if you connect other countries that the United States
      fed up with your idiocy

      The United States has fewer allies than your country ... certainly pursuing a brilliant, and not idiotic, policy?
      1. 0
        8 October 2018 15: 59
        Something is often written on this site - But America will play it out, we’ll give them a missile missile and there’s no wet place left ... For such people, I suggest one analogy with the last world war - look at the old pre-war photos? In the 30s, the whole world was preparing for war with the use of weapons of mass destruction - chemical weapons ... And what ??? None of the warring parties decided to apply it !!! Even Hitler in his last days !!!

        But even without the use of WMD, about 40 million people were killed !!! Therefore, if this happened once in history, why would a similar situation not happen again ??? So Nuclear weapons are a guarantee .... Yes, no damn it, no guarantee whatsoever !!!
        1. 0
          8 October 2018 16: 10
          Quote: Selevc
          So Nuclear weapons are a guarantee .... Yes, no damn it, no guarantee whatsoever !!!

          Here you are wrong. If the Americans were not afraid, then in the 50s they climbed the USSR. And so history has shown that in those days they still knew how to think, in contrast to today. Today, only the arrogance of the victory and the remnants of the fear of otvetka in the form of "Voevoda" and K stops them.
          1. 0
            8 October 2018 17: 48
            Quote: saint
            And so history has shown that in those days they still knew how to think, unlike today.

            You contradict yourself in one paragraph. Previously knew how to think and did not climb. Now they haven’t climbed the same, but they can’t think anymore. How does it get along in your head? What exactly are they doing now, which they did not do before, after which you decided that they were alone?
  12. 0
    8 October 2018 13: 28
    Popcorn is ready
  13. 0
    8 October 2018 13: 43
    Pence is not a grav at Fallout smile
  14. +1
    8 October 2018 14: 14
    Selevc (Andrey) Today, 13:35

    Calling the United States to think it over is as effective as calling Napoleon to think when Europe has already seized Europe and not go to war ... the USA is now in the euphoria of the winners that is how they position themselves on the international stage - you will recall at least one case in history when the conquerors
    stayed halfway ??? ..


    Wrong euphoria no US does not measure its strength
    wishful thinking
    Russia in World War 2 fought with 350 million people of Europe
    including Germany under whose banner fought
    more than 3 million Europeans from all countries from Poland to Denmark
    and the USSR won the war
    So it will be now
    1. 0
      8 October 2018 14: 29
      Your words - to God’s ears !!! But there is reality - harsh reality !!! Think about when it happened in history so that aggressors like the United States thought better of it ??? THERE WAS NEVER !!!
      And why do you think that the United States is not commensurate with its strength ??? I think that the White House does not think so at all !!! In World War II, Russia fought in alliance with the USA, Britain and half the world, and now Russia is against the USA, Europe and half the world - one or almost one ...
      1. LMN
        +2
        9 October 2018 02: 45
        Quote: Selevc
        Your words - to God’s ears !!! But there is reality - harsh reality !!! Think about when it happened in history so that aggressors like the United States thought better of it ??? THERE WAS NEVER !!!
        And why do you think that the United States is not commensurate with its strength ??? I think that the White House does not think so at all !!! In World War II, Russia fought in alliance with the USA, Britain and half the world, and now Russia is against the USA, Europe and half the world - one or almost one ...

        I agree. The United States and Co. will continue to continue. They will not stop. No.
  15. +1
    8 October 2018 14: 16
    Is a US-China Conflict Inevitable?
  16. 0
    8 October 2018 14: 20
    What kind of crap pin do not come up with in order to blame someone else for their mistakes. negative
    1. 0
      8 October 2018 14: 29
      Quote: K-50
      What kind of crap pin do not come up with in order to blame someone else for their mistakes.

      And what is their mistake, specifically? Import substitution is evil or good, decide ..)))
  17. +1
    8 October 2018 15: 08
    In fact, the United States has already lost. They will not be able to fight both Russia and China. That means one needs to be guaranteed to be taken out of the game. And this is more likely to be Russia. But with their whip, the Americans didn’t get us out of the game. The Russians will be happy to fight from the USA. Because it is our existential enemy. China is debatable, but the Anglo-Saxons are for sure.
    1. 0
      8 October 2018 16: 19
      Quote: Sonet
      .Russian gladly will be at war with the USA

      Have you already gathered a military volunteer, with a song going to die in the war with the United States? And they will be headed by our "Ne Dimon" with "Padishah"? I think that Edinoros should make up the infantry, send our "servants of the people" to assault groups, make suicide bombers from "kazi" and "oprichniki", and create a "living bridge" for tanks at the crossings from "bros under sanctions". It will work! 99% of the population of the Russian Federation FOR! laughing
      1. LMN
        +3
        9 October 2018 03: 02
        Quote: Dumb
        Quote: Sonet
        .Russian gladly will be at war with the USA

        Have you already gathered a military volunteer, with a song going to die in the war with the United States? And they will be headed by our "Ne Dimon" with "Padishah"? I think that Edinoros should make up the infantry, send our "servants of the people" to assault groups, make suicide bombers from "kazi" and "oprichniki", and create a "living bridge" for tanks at the crossings from "bros under sanctions". It will work! 99% of the population of the Russian Federation FOR! laughing

        You shouldn’t be so winked
        He is right, in particular, the attitude of the population of the Russian Federation to the US state!Yes
        As a city of the Russian Federation, I also see the danger of the United States not only for the Russian Federation, but also for the rest of the world. request And I, too, despite the fact that I am not a member of any party, will go to the draft board Yes
  18. +2
    8 October 2018 16: 13
    Maybe the Russian bear will rest a little while the cocky eagle will drag the "cunning" monkey.
  19. NY
    0
    8 October 2018 17: 54
    Pence is a representative of the Republican Party's extremely conservative reactionary wing, which has a huge impact on Trump.
  20. 0
    8 October 2018 19: 49
    America is surrounded by enemies alone !!!
  21. 0
    8 October 2018 21: 12
    In this world of large states should no longer be. The United States will try to put everyone in a known position, not just the PRC. EU states supported all sanctions that did not directly affect them, and played out: now they themselves are the objects for any sanctions of the US administration. EU states supported the dismemberment of the USSR, and played out: now they themselves are objects for dismemberment.
    So, conflict is a way of existence of the state. If you don’t go into conflict, there is a murder ahead with a dismemberment. But this is your choice.
  22. 0
    9 October 2018 15: 17
    Well, right across Orwell, that’s how much I follow the news, I find so many similarities. Welcome to totalitarianism with the Ministry of Truth and the universal obligation to rejoice at the achievements of the party.