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Chinese brother will fight with Russian

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As you know, the whole mess that is happening in the world is only a preparation for the coming confrontation between the United States and China. We are probably not very pleased to realize this. We are accustomed to, that Russia is always on the first roles. But this time, everything is different: the attack of the Americans against Russia is only an attempt by Washington to clear the field of the coming battle.


Faced with uncontrolled and extremely serious industrial growth in China, the Americans simply had to somehow respond to this. If this is not done, then in ten to twenty years, China will calmly, without much haste and dust, replace America as a world military and political hegemon, with all the ensuing consequences. And most importantly, the Chinese yuan will replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency, which will be a real catastrophe for the United States.



It so happens that, using the dollar as an example, we observe an interesting phenomenon that had never been encountered in the world economy before and has not yet received a proper assessment. The fact is that due to a number of economic, political and military reasons, the US dollar has ceased to be a simple means of calculation. Moreover, it has become even more than a means of accumulation for individuals, companies and states. No, everything is much more interesting: the dollar has become America’s main export commodity. And encroachment on this status automatically means a catastrophe for the USA.

Of course, America has long been predicted of a collapse associated with the collapse of the debt bubble, then with the devaluation of the dollar. So long ago and so often that it became already something of a casual excuse to bite for people who are not deprived of a sense of humor. All this is so, all right, but ...

The most surprising thing in the current situation (and this has never happened before) is that the commodity content of the dollar now largely depends on China and its industry. If we assume that relations between the countries will worsen somehow very sharply, then America will face a real commodity hunger, since much of the products sold in stores in Los Angeles and New York flow into them directly from China. The industry of America itself is unlikely to be able to compensate for such catastrophic losses in a relatively short time, and the United States in this case expects long-term fever of queues, deficits, black market and price rises, ultimately leading to a steep inflationary turn. Further, as we understand (and most likely, in parallel with this), that same debt bubble will start to collapse, banks and states will refuse from the dollar as a reserve currency, America will find it harder and harder to purchase the raw materials and equipment it needs industry), savings across the world will dramatically shift to gold and other precious metals, and so on.

Why is this not happening now? Everything is quite simple: China is still very dependent on access to large markets, since domestic consumption is not able to digest all the products manufactured by Chinese factories. A sharp refusal to export means the actual collapse of Chinese industry with difficult predictable consequences for the Chinese Communist Party and the Celestial Empire itself. But the idea of ​​a stronger grip on America and drowning the cautious Chinese together is somehow not inspiring. Moreover, they have a more promising option ...

China is making tremendous efforts to develop the domestic market. Measures to stimulate employment include many areas of activity, ranging from supporting crafts and ending with the incredible pace of construction of high-speed railways, other transport, industrial and energy infrastructure. It is no coincidence and some promising solutions: in particular, the idea of ​​building a CR929 long-range aircraft jointly with Russia is not just an economic project, but also an attempt to protect itself from civilian sanctions aviation.

In general, it can be assumed with a certain degree of confidence that in a decade China will be ready for a much more serious confrontation with the United States, and even a complete breakdown in relations with loss of access to the markets of the United States, the European Union and Japan will not kill the Chinese economy. So, the Americans need to act now, because they also need time to prepare.

How America is dependent on the Chinese "assembly shop" has already been written above. Can it get rid of this dependence, at least in its most critical forms? Yes, definitely. And Trump chose for this the easiest, low-cost, effective way - duties. By making the import of Chinese goods to the US less profitable, it stimulates both its own American industry to produce some goods that were previously unprofitable to produce due to the high competition of the Chinese and other market participants to transfer a significant part of their production from China. And this signal seems to have been heard - in the US, it seems, an economic boom is beginning, and some manufacturers are beginning to transfer their production from China to Vietnam and other countries of Southeast Asia.

And where is Russia? She, it seems, did not encroach on the economic power of the United States, why her, pardon me, yes, about the Crimea? But do not rush to conclusions, Russia in all this stories plays quite an important role.

The fact is that the United States can learn from their mistakes. Once they already had a similar experience: in times of confrontation with the USSR, someone in the United States decided that it would be nice to make a good weight out of China on the legs of Moscow. There was a thaw in US-China relations, benefits for entering the American market, unhindered accession to the WTO, permission for American companies to invest in the PRC, etc. Together with quite effective reforms of Deng Xiaoping, this led to the beginning of explosive growth in China, and now to the necessity of confrontation with the Celestial Empire itself.

Washington understands that it is too dangerous to get involved in a fight with Beijing, leaving Putin’s Russia behind, which will immediately start making money on both sides of the conflict and in a couple of decades will turn into the same economic challenge as today's China. This means that it is desirable to break Russia in order to untie its hands and cover its back.

But, as written above, the time factor plays a big role. The attack on China cannot be postponed indefinitely, because it can also be significantly strengthened, and America itself needs several years to deploy its industry and fill the dollar with US (or at least Vietnamese, Indonesian) production.

And with the arrival of Trump the fight began. So far, of course, in the economic field. However, a recent event shows that Americans are getting involved in a fight more and more seriously, already at the political level. This, of course, is about the sanctions against the Central Military Council of China, imposed for the acquisition of the Russian Su-35 and the S-400. Although the official statement of the press service of the US Treasury said that the final recipient of the sanctions is Russia, this should not be misleading: the backdating sanctions for last year's purchases are nothing but an extension of the front of the US-China confrontation.

It is interesting in this sense, and yesterday's statement by US Vice President Mike Pence. He, I remind you, said that China by its actions overshadowed Russian attempts to interfere in the American elections. Yes, at first glance it may seem, this is just an attempt to remove the accusations of “pro-Russian” from Trump, or rather, not to remove them, but to distract opponents and voters with a new goal.

But the fact is that this is a very serious accusation, especially against the background of the hysteria that unfolded in the United States about the so-called “Russian intervention”. And if they respond to it accordingly, then it will not be so important what exactly Mike Pence meant.

If this is really a preparation for the transfer of the conflict to a new stage, then Russia almost waited for a critical change in the geopolitical alignment of forces on the “big chessboard”. At a minimum, this will mean that in the event of its transition to more active actions (in the Ukrainian direction, for example), it will no longer be all alone, and the tandem Russia-China will stand together against American aggression.

Well, let us wait until China is drawn into a confrontation with the United States will become completely irreversible.
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  1. Gardamir
    Gardamir 5 October 2018 13: 07
    -6
    An article on how the two leading world powers will divide the world. Well, we, as a third world country, can push up. To the minus author. I am Russian! And I wanted to spit on different America and China.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 5 October 2018 13: 10
      +22
      In this situation, we need to look for our own benefit .. We don’t need powerful China at our side either .. And as for the tandem .. so far it hasn’t really run into China .. and now the tandem .. That's when it starts investing in our economy, then we can talk about the tandem .. in general, practical affairs from China are few .. some intentions so far ..
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 5 October 2018 13: 25
        +9
        As you know, the whole mess happening now in the world is only a preparation for the upcoming confrontation between the United States and China.

        We are probably not very pleased to be aware of this.
        We are used to the fact that Russia is always at the forefront.




        There was a time when we believed that sausage and jeans were more important,
        but the mind was not enough to understand that one shines without the other

        But Russia is so great that it can rise from any state.

        For this, we need China close by, then we can handle it ourselves.


        I do not quite agree that for the United States the only problem is China.

        They are well aware that Russia is capable of creating for them an insurmountable barrier on the path to world domination, as it created this barrier for everyone

        And the Horde and Napoleon and Britain and Hitler and the United States and anyone stop


        Russia will rise, except for Russia there is no one to stop the "hegemons"



        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 5 October 2018 13: 51
          +16
          Quote: Svarog
          We also do not need powerful China at our side ..

          doesn’t depend on us .. alas.
          Quote: bulvas
          But Russia is so great that it can rise from any state
          not today ... for this, there must be a different, non-oligarchic system.
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 5 October 2018 13: 56
            -2
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            not today ... for this, there must be a different, non-oligarchic system.



            if pressed - it will become as it should

            1. sib.ataman
              sib.ataman 5 October 2018 16: 14
              +7
              Who will squeeze something? Which one?
            2. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 5 October 2018 19: 53
              +8
              Quote: bulvas
              if pressed - it will become as it should

              - there are few real violent
              there are no leaders.
              V.S. Vysotsky
          2. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 5 October 2018 14: 16
            -11
            Of course. In 1812, for example, there was socialism with communism hand in hand. And under Peter 1, equality and brotherhood in general. Maybe hare wishful thinking?))))
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 5 October 2018 14: 20
              -2
              Quote: Bull Terrier
              Maybe hare wishful thinking?))))



              and what is the end of the world?
              everything is bad and nowhere else to go?


              if there is no socialism with communism - is it already impossible to live?

              1. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 5 October 2018 14: 22
                -9
                Not at all. Just again, about the oligarchic system began, then something else will begin. Better immediately besiege)
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 5 October 2018 14: 24
                  0
                  Quote: Bull Terrier
                  Not at all. Just again, about the oligarchic system began, then something else will begin. Better immediately besiege)


                  it yes

                  the problem is that everyone "fancies himself a strategist" and knows what and how it should be

                  The system should work out, but it takes time.

                  In the meantime - stand on hold, which is what we do

                  There are many discussions and another talking room, but there’s no other way to figure out how to live on.





                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 5 October 2018 20: 06
                    +16
                    Quote: bulvas
                    The system should work out, but it takes time.

                    In the meantime - stand on hold, which is what we do

                    meanwhile a system is being developed from the word kayuk. Nobody holds together, except for supreme bankers .. There is no ideology uniting society. The fact is that during perestroika a catastrophe happened, for the first time in a thousand years in Russia, the basic level of public consciousness was reformatted from public to individualistic. We now do not stand and hold on, but are surviving, while performing the function of a consumer of imports, mainly Chinese. And as a country we are a cold version of Africa.
                    1. bulvas
                      bulvas 6 October 2018 12: 54
                      -4
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      We now do not stand and hold on, but are surviving, while performing the function of a consumer of imports, mainly Chinese. And as a country we are a cold version of Africa.




                      Let me guess ..... you, is it Ukraine?






                      1. naidas
                        naidas 6 October 2018 17: 10
                        +4
                        They didn’t guess, it’s beyond the Moscow Ring Road for the cities of millionaires.
                      2. bulvas
                        bulvas 6 October 2018 17: 58
                        -3
                        Quote: naidas
                        They didn’t guess, it’s beyond the Moscow Ring Road for the cities of millionaires.


                        not necessary.

                        Since, aybolyt678, writes as if memorized:


                        There is no ideology uniting society. .... perestroika, a catastrophe happened, .... the basic level of public consciousness was reformatted from public to individualistic.


                        he is either a mishandled (or bought) provocateur who makes good money on this,
                        or related to politics, which also does not cause respect.

                        And, for sure, not a disadvantaged resident "beyond the Moscow Ring Road"

                        Although inside the Moscow Ring Road loafers and dreamers, as well as crooks from politics, say the same thing.

                        and whining, whining, whining ....
                        instead of getting the right specialty and go to work
                      3. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 6 October 2018 18: 57
                        +4
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Let me guess ..... you, is it Ukraine?

                        Siberia, I work in agriculture. Why call a provocateur? and go to the person? Am I really wrong? respected?
                        By the way, I know how to have a PhD degree, I earn enough. A whining from the inside of the Moscow Ring Road
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 5 October 2018 19: 56
                +13
                Quote: bulvas
                if there is no socialism with communism - is it already impossible to live?

                there is no capitalism either .... in the sense of industry. Only banks and this is financial. Moreover, this is not capitalism but occupation.
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 5 October 2018 20: 10
                  -7
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  Quote: bulvas
                  if there is no socialism with communism - is it already impossible to live?

                  there is no capitalism either .... in the sense of industry. Only banks and this is financial. Moreover, this is not capitalism but occupation.



                  there's nothing...
                  and what do you need to say - is there?

                  what do you think you need?

                  Zyuganov choose?
                  Yavlinsky?
                  Titova?

                  1. albert
                    albert 5 October 2018 21: 16
                    +8
                    Quote: bulvas
                    Zyuganov choose?

                    Better Zyuganov or Grudinin than Pu and Honey. angry
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 5 October 2018 21: 35
                      -4
                      Quote: albert
                      Better Zyuganov or Grudinin than Pu and Honey

                      Yah?! Who cares? Zyuganov, Yeltsin, elections, votes ... Not so long ago it was, do not you remember? laughing
                      1. bulvas
                        bulvas 5 October 2018 23: 46
                        0
                        Quote: albert
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Zyuganov choose?

                        Better Zyuganov or Grudinin than Pu and Honey. angry


                        do you think so

                        but I think - God forbid Zyuganov (Grudinin - this is generally a bad joke)
                  2. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 5 October 2018 21: 16
                    +17
                    Quote: bulvas
                    what do you think you need?

                    Zyuganov choose?
                    Yavlinsky?
                    Titova?

                    First, a public request for the quality of a leader is needed. That which was banning before, namely: apart from Putin, no one will pass now. After the retirement saga, the people will go into a dull opposition. They will choose any other, in the end, those who come to power will begin to break Putin’s oligogroup, Enemies from London and the USA will connect, they will succeed, then they will undress and blood or hunger, and when the tops kill each other, after severe losses, Russia will reborn somewhere in West Siberian Republic. And she will unite with the Moscow-Leningrad Federation. Something like this.
                    In general, seriously, first you need to build a Stalin Center steeper than the Yeltsin Center with public money. Personally, I, if I’m in Moscow, will definitely carry flowers to the Leader’s grave. There is nothing more to do in Moscow. Start with this
            2. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 6 October 2018 09: 59
              +1
              Quote: Bull Terrier
              Maybe hare wishful thinking?))))

              The USSR in different years is a different country. There were periods to be proud of. It really was. As for 1812, it is the war with Napoleon. And Napoleon can be interpreted in different ways, imagine how you can understand the expression "Napoleonic plans" ?, for example, you can understand it as something huge - to defeat Russia, to conquer Europe, but you can understand - "run, run, run !!!" laughing
              1. Antares
                Antares 6 October 2018 10: 51
                0
                Quote: aybolyt678
                defeat Russia, conquer Europe

                Napoleon already had it, and victories over RI and almost complete conquest of Europe (after the defeat of RI and Austria with Prussia)
                He needed a safe rear to invade England. Alexander, as a loyal ally of the World Bank, did not give him "three foggy days" ...
                (he didn’t give anything at all, neither marriage, nor lasting alliance, nor any guarantees, or firm blockade ....)
            3. Essex62
              Essex62 8 October 2018 13: 33
              0
              In the historical periods you listed 90, with a tail,% of the population lived hard and hungry for slave labor, having miserable crumbs. Not to mention the human dignity, which is in every way trampled upon by the landowner-slave owners. Russian serf peasants harnessed themselves to the war of 12 years in order to get a wave. And it’s not yet known if the professional army hadn’t rendered it support to the serf man, hefty enemy communications and battered rear units.
        2. Dull
          Dull 5 October 2018 15: 50
          +7
          Quote: bulvas
          I do not quite agree that for the United States the only problem is China.

          In addition to China and Russia, there are many countries with huge potential that must be taken into account in the foreign policy game. For example, Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy, India, Japan, South Africa .... It is not a fact that if the world is divided into several points of confrontation, all of them will not affect the balance of power. It seems to me that the presence of nuclear weapons makes a military conflict between nuclear powers on a large scale meaningless, therefore, all future conflicts between them will take place on trading floors. The economic collapse of any state often leads to more serious consequences than a military defeat. Who attacked the USSR and where is this state now? The Third World War is already going on all over the world, moreover, the war is being fought between supranational financial and business structures with the use of all means of states accountable to them. There is a banal redistribution of the World. Look at the points of conflict and instability around the world. They are where rich deposits exist or strategic points are located. Currently, there are no independent states, but there are territories fenced in by borders that are part of one or another center of influence. As a result, these Centers will agree among themselves and peace and order will come in the World until the next Redistribution. The desire of the St. Petersburg Bratva "to snatch their piece" from the swarm of the Masters was perceived by them as a personal insult, followed by a public flogging in front of the entire world community. It is a pity that the population suffered, and 1% of the owners of 99% of the country's wealth became even richer from this ... However, this is another story, the continuation of which we will see in the near future with the hanging on the "birches" of this 1% of "New Gentlemen" and their servants ...
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 5 October 2018 20: 13
            -1
            Quote: Dumb
            However, this is another story, the continuation of which we will see in the near future with hanging on the "birches" of this 1% of "New Gentlemen" and their servants

            In our technological age, the power of money, with the existing methods of processing public consciousness, these 99% percent will destroy themselves.
            1. Dull
              Dull 5 October 2018 21: 34
              +5
              Quote: aybolyt678
              In our technological age, the power of money, with the existing methods of processing public consciousness, these 99% percent will destroy themselves.

              It’s harder to do this in our technological age. Previously, using controlled media, it was possible to drive anything into the head of the population. Now, 60% of the population do not watch TV or read newspapers, but use the Internet to get news. The percentage is growing from year to year due to media bias in all countries. Even those who are zombified by the "box" will eventually rebel, saving their children from starvation, while the "nobility" is fattening. The process went on and the population was not the instigator of this ...
              1. Sewer krainiy
                Sewer krainiy 6 October 2018 19: 11
                +2
                The Internet is still that mess ... If you are guided by it, and not by your head ... oh, it will not seem enough.
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 5 October 2018 21: 45
            +2
            Quote: Dumb
            Roma of China and Russia, there are many countries with huge potential,

            Quote: Dumb
            SOUTH AFRICA.

            Especially like South Africa ... laughing
            1. Dull
              Dull 5 October 2018 21: 50
              +2
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Especially like South Africa ...

              For all the fun, South Africa is a Regional Power. Until, at least, until the legacy of the "white minority", like the Baltics, the legacy of the USSR, was not "profiled". hi
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 5 October 2018 21: 59
                +1
                Quote: Dumb
                For all the fun, South Africa is a Regional Power. Until, at least, until the legacy of the "white minority", like the Baltics, the legacy of the USSR, was not "profiled"

                And in what great potential?
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      2. Igor Golov
        Igor Golov 5 October 2018 14: 14
        +4
        And we are in great need of China. Nearby China is close to Japan, which is very crowded on its island and which has long-lasting hardly friendly relations with China.
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 5 October 2018 14: 27
          +1
          Koreans at the genetic level hate the Japanese. So there Japan will say so in a very bad environment. With China, everything is also extremely bad. The world is just changing, politicians are somehow raving. They are trying something, but they will start cutting something with wild joy.
        2. 2329 Carpenter
          2329 Carpenter 5 October 2018 19: 38
          +4
          Well yes. What is Japan now, and what is China?
          Once it was, Japan, but it became very crowded on their islands ... For which, in the end, they were hit by a nuclear club and realized that we had to sit very quietly and evenly. Barking sometimes on the command of the hosts to the wind with the Kuril Islands and Y. Sakhalin.
          And here's another misfortune: before the nuclear flogging, the Japanese carried out an eight-year genocide in China, which is unlikely to have analogues in the history of mankind. Destroying, according to various sources, from 37 to 44 million people in ways that the human mind still has to think of.
          They wrote that China, having forgotten nothing to the Japanese (and how do you forget this?), Thought deeply ... What?
          I deeply doubt that about fraternal friendship with these brothers in the race.
        3. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 5 October 2018 20: 21
          +7
          Quote: Igor Golov
          Near China, Japan, which is very crowded on its island

          Hokkaido is very densely populated. There are only 5 million people. Another thing is that the Japanese captured in Kazakhstan, for example, chromium deposits, and they do not sell Russia flatly, I think to China, too. The world generally became crowded. China needs us as a source of ore, wood, gas, and as a consumer of their goods. We have lost science. Although 45 years ago, our academic science set the pace in the world. Then, for some reason, scientists believed that scientific achievement is a world heritage.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 5 October 2018 13: 49
      +6
      Quote: Gardamir
      An article on how the two leading world powers will divide the world. Well, we, as a third world country,

      But to look deeper at all this is not fate? In a certain century, do not they pile on us with the whole world? For China, we are a kind of insurance against NATO nuclear threats and this is temporary until China reaches parity with the United States in the number of carriers and BG. At the same time, do not forget that the Russian Federation is the largest country in the world and through it, in fact, everything goes from Asia to Europe and vice versa. So to say that we are on the sidelines are hasty and short-sighted. There is a tandem of China and the Russian Federation against the USA, England and some European countries. Two camps are armed to the teeth, with monetary and industrial potential. Another section of the world is taking place with the designation of the main poles of power, both military and political and economic. We, as one of the main players, can build up military power until blue in the face, but still lose ... why? The answer is simple, DEMOGRAPHY. Such areas require development, development and protection. And we have a population decline, drunkenness and a desire to multiply. This has long been a matter of national security.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 5 October 2018 13: 57
        -1
        But to look deeper at all this is not fate? In a certain century, do not they pile on us with the whole world?
        You don’t watch TV or rarely go to the VO site. All around they shout that the whole world is against us. As for China specifically, as long as the current government gives territories to China, the Chinese do not need to attack us. Or do you really believe that the Chinese and the Americans will be thrown rockets across the ocean?
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 5 October 2018 14: 17
          -3
          Yes, no one gave anything to China .. How much can one and the same suck it ...
        2. YarSer88
          YarSer88 5 October 2018 20: 11
          +2
          In fact, we have with China a long-standing territorial dispute, in the 19th century most of the squandered land was returned. What is happening now is China's attempts to bite off the maximum of the lands transferred in the 19th century. So, if you look more broadly, then this is a debate about where to round up the territory of the transferred lands, up or down. There Gorbachev also, of course, planted a pig, because of which we drained the islands to Ussuri, but Putin came out with the least losses. We could butt, as with samurai, before turning blue for these islands, as a result, they would still have left China, since our people would not have banally settled them, but China has no problems with this. And so we fraternally divided the disputed territories, covering this issue with official documents. I think it’s a reasonable way out of this situation. The fact that the situation is excrement, yes, but it turned out as it happened, the time machine, unfortunately, was not invented.
      2. Igor Golov
        Igor Golov 5 October 2018 14: 15
        0
        We are always at the forefront. Because of Japan.
      3. saigon
        saigon 5 October 2018 15: 46
        +9
        Of course, we will lose with such reforms, with such an attitude towards the citizens of the country.
        Waning, drunkenness is understandable people do not see prospects from the word at all.
        Reformal itching so overwhelmed in a causal place that the task wasn’t enough to calculate the consequences of its action. Enthusiastically slapping their ears on the cheeks, more than 300 highly moral and economically competent deputies adopted stupid reform.
        And yesterday, the president noted such a wonderful reform, but there is no profit and benefit from it, but we’ll have new expenses.
        Ideas uniting the citizens of our state are not and are not expected.
        So, our Russia is no match for either China or Omerik ..
        1. YarSer88
          YarSer88 5 October 2018 19: 44
          -4
          Who does not see prospects - ready to show. Only if you move forward, and not look for excuses.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 5 October 2018 21: 29
            +4
            Quote: YarSer88
            Who does not see prospects - ready to show. Only if you move forward, and not look for excuses.

            glad to see the optimist! Well, show where the one in front of which there is a way?
            In Roman mythology, there was a god of doors - a two-faced Janus. So here we have almost any direction - two-faced Anus!
            1. YarSer88
              YarSer88 8 October 2018 10: 52
              -2
              Everyone has their own "forward", depending on the goals that each sets for himself. About the fact that everywhere there is a two-faced Anus - the more you do, the more problems, this is always the case. Therefore, some consciously choose to live in poverty, but there is no problem, only one - what to buy to eat tomorrow. Therefore, for such people, the way forward is impossible by definition, they do not go anywhere, they have no goal, and therefore there is no movement. They are just looking for excuses about which I wrote above. Excuses are always a sign that a person does not want to move anywhere.
        2. dSK
          dSK 7 October 2018 01: 00
          +2
          Quote: saigon
          Yesterday, the president noted such a wonderful reform, but there is no profit or benefit from it.
          Repetition of the words of "accountant" Golikova.
          China is making tremendous efforts to develop the domestic market. Employment incentives include many activities ranging from supporting crafts and ending with incredible pace of construction of high-speed railways, other transport, industrial and energy infrastructure
          The Chinese work and work systematically and have little thump.
          Quote: YarSer88 (Sergey Vladimirovich)
          China's attempts to bite off the maximum of the lands transferred in the 19th century.
          China "ceded" the territory of Primorsky Krai to Russia for its support in the "cocaine" war against England and still remembers its hard lessons. Death penalty for distributing drugs.
          Now "liberals" are pushing permission to sell beer at stadiums, gas stations, at night, under the pretext of supporting local producers of the Swedish Baltic, Czech and German fodder. We have there are already four pubs in the quarter, one through a fence with a gymnasium.
      4. YarSer88
        YarSer88 5 October 2018 19: 43
        +7
        Quote: NEXUS
        The answer is simple - DEMOGRAPHY

        It's right. We would trade with China, so that they had 145 million, and we have 2 billion. Then it would be comfortable for both. It is a pity that this is even theoretically impossible. A quick increase in numbers, especially in conditions of economic pressure - utopia. And Moscow is absorbing more and more from the regions, even if the population growth is a million, which is unlikely, 70 percent will surely settle in Moscow, and Moscow is already overpopulated. Siberia and the Far East as were deserted, and will remain.
        1. Antares
          Antares 6 October 2018 11: 00
          +2
          Quote: YarSer88
          We would trade with China, so that they had 145 million, and we have 2 billion. Then it would be comfortable for both.

          In Russia, only a third of the territory (5 million sq. Km.) Meets the criteria of an effective territory
          China-6 million square kilometers.
          Effective territory - the territory of the state without extreme conditions for the life of people. Climate zones are considered unsuitable, where the average annual temperature is below two degrees of frost, and the height above sea level is more than 2000 meters. According to this indicator, Brazil, the USA, Australia and China are the leaders in the world.
          1. YarSer88
            YarSer88 8 October 2018 10: 57
            0
            Siberia is practically not settled in our country; in Primorye, too, there are a lot of territories that can be settled and cultivated. China is also populated in the highlands of Tibet, what prevents us from developing Siberia? More precisely, everyone understands what, the question is, how long?
      5. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 5 October 2018 20: 36
        +5
        Quote: NEXUS
        The answer is simple - DEMOGRAPHY
        I quote your words:
        Quote: NEXUS
        But to look deeper at all this is not fate?

        the development of such territories as ours will require incomparably greater resources than the development of warmer ones. A large population is also a large consumption. The modern way of the world is exhausted. There are wars for cheap energy. In Russia, they are quite expensive. That is why they do not pile on us all over the world, we dutifully sell raw materials and consume the products of Western civilization produced in China. The oligarch that exists in the country uses the power of the army to make the Russian oligarch pump oil and gas. The people here will finish demographics and pensions with medicine. The only chance if a leader appears with a clear and demanded ideology
    3. seti
      seti 5 October 2018 14: 28
      +6
      Quote: Gardamir
      An article on how the two leading world powers will divide the world. Well, we, as a third world country, can push up. To the minus author.

      This is your minus. The author has correctly stated everything. The point is that it’s time for us not to pull chestnuts for the Chinese, but for them for us. Let it continue to diverge from America on all points to us that it’s very beneficial for us to be a lightning rod. In the meantime, they sort things out, in the backyard we can do our business more actively. In a fight it is always better to be two against one than one against all.
    4. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 5 October 2018 15: 57
      +1
      Still by inertia we think of ourselves as a world power ... there was only one shoveler from this ... 14 economy of the world .. feudal criminal formation in Russia ..
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 6 October 2018 10: 30
        0
        Quote: plotnikov561956
        Still by inertia we think of ourselves as a world power ... there was only one shovel from this

        Just like the USSR collapsed, according to probability theory, it could also come back together, and even something better could come out. Purely theoretically. If a serious structure, at the state level, would develop a program for the restoration of the country, using all possible means available to the state, as a coercive apparatus. Everything would have worked out! Intuitively, we, at the subconscious level, know this. We do not have a structure that thinks for a country, just the opposite. This causes a state of frustration
    5. passing
      passing 6 October 2018 08: 29
      +4
      Quote: Gardamir
      An article on how the two leading world powers will divide the world. Well, we, as a third world country, can push up. To the minus author. I am Russian! And I wanted to spit on different America and China.

      here you stuck the minuses .... for a perfectly sound idea. Well here STRATEGY gathered. In your country, a mess, but give geopolitics !!!!!!
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 6 October 2018 09: 51
        +1
        Quote: passing
        Well here STRATEGY gathered. In your country, a mess, but give geopolitics !!!!!!

        The mess in pre-revolutionary Russia is a brothel. There is a certain symbolism in this. The magic of the right term, so to speak ... Everyone comes to the brothel, they have what they want, they pay of course ... But what are the prospects? at the workers?
        1. passing
          passing 6 October 2018 10: 32
          +3
          But what are the prospects? at the workers?

          what None. The decrepit "capacity", a decrease in the quality of service. Accordingly, there is no demand and ... unemployment or a pension, without a pension.
          And the administration is not going to invest in re-equipment and modernization!
          From this angle I did not consider the situation repeat but it seems very similar
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    7. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 8 October 2018 10: 44
      0
      Gardamir, - sometimes I’d like to add to such comments, either a fool or a provocateur ... When the wings of a two-headed eagle are cut and the beak is dull, you can call it an eagle, but unflattering prefixes will follow ... It’s right to be proud that it’s Russian, but you need to be strong and fair and respected in the world. Here two components are not visible, the reasons to look inside Russia ...
  2. Sailor
    Sailor 5 October 2018 13: 20
    +1
    The United States needs to distract us to Europe in order to crush China with a crowd (Australia, Japan and possibly India).
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 5 October 2018 13: 26
    0
    Involuntarily drawn into such games, and those who are not ready for this at all, do not aspire at all!
    In addition, our political, which has leadership. in the head - And who knows where it wags ??? -
  4. Yrec
    Yrec 5 October 2018 14: 04
    +10
    The Chinese and I are not friends. China, in general, is no friend but to itself. The Chinese isolationism has been nurtured by them for 4000 years. Enough normal neighborliness and mutually beneficial trade. China does not pretend to our territories - they have no climate there. We drive them with raw materials anyway. In the case of a Chinese mess with amers, we can skim the cream. APR will turn into a theater of operations and most of the logistics will go through us + resources. The main thing is not to step and play correctly. Putin steers here, it’s stupid to deny it.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 October 2018 21: 00
      +1
      Quote: Yrec
      In the case of a Chinese mess with amers, we can skim the cream.

      Americans are now actively making China an adversary from India. Fortunately, the territory there is controversial, Indochina.
  5. Jerk
    Jerk 5 October 2018 14: 36
    +3
    Well, here the USA has a choice between bad and absolutely worthless: either Russia profits from a fight between China and the USA, or even steeper - China and Russia unite against the USA, which, at the same time as the loss of markets in Europe, is simply inevitable - because Europe cannot refuse from goods neither from China, nor from raw materials from Russia - puts the USA in isolation - the USA loses ALL markets in general.
    Indonesia and other Micronesia are laughter, the US domestic market is not comparable with the European one, by the way, they have already lost Africa and Asia, too, for the same reason as Europe.
    Collapse. No options
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 5 October 2018 14: 48
    0
    If trade is a battlefield, then the confrontation is predetermined .... it’s something more ardent, very unlikely. The weight categories of the opponents are not equal, but ANY of them can put the end point of the existence of everything and everyone.
  7. pru-pavel
    pru-pavel 5 October 2018 14: 49
    -4
    The Chinese brother is the best brother of the Russian brother.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 October 2018 20: 50
      +4
      Quote: pru-pavel
      The Chinese brother is the best brother of the Russian brother.

      after Khrushchev offered to send Stalin's coffin to Beijing, and quarreled with the Communist Parties of China, Vietnam and Korea, no one tried to restore the former fraternal friendship. And all you need is: first, return Stalin to the Mausoleum, the Communist Party to the Kremlin, the Earth to the workers! Factories to the peasants!
      but seriously, we are in a very big ass. I do not think that some kind of fraternal feelings will be experienced by Chinese soldiers if they receive orders to seize the territory. Once our communist leaders, in all seriousness, spoke of the fact that the fraternal working class of Germany would clog in the ecstasy of the Revolution, unite with us, and signed a separate peace, which was very unprofitable for Russia.
    2. vindigo
      vindigo 7 October 2018 13: 04
      +1
      They are definitely not friends to us, rather Ukrainians are friends. Asians have an absolutely alien mentality to us, try to learn their languages.
  8. iouris
    iouris 5 October 2018 14: 54
    +3
    China (PRC) is a communist state in an imperialist environment. The Russian Federation is part of the world imperialist system. Make a conclusion yourself.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 5 October 2018 15: 07
      -3
      Quote: iouris
      China (PRC) is a communist state ...

      Thank. Very funny for now. Continue in the same spirit yes

      PS: here it is -

      Quote: iouris
      RF is part of the world imperialist system

      - good too laughing
  9. barsuk
    barsuk 5 October 2018 15: 15
    -1
    It seems the Yellow Dragon is coming to an end))) Silent glanders did not work.
  10. malyvalv
    malyvalv 5 October 2018 15: 15
    +2
    It will become increasingly difficult for America to buy the raw materials and equipment it needs (this is already a blow to industry)


    That is unlikely. America, like no other country in the world, is provided with both resources and technology. They mainly buy a shirportreb.
    1. NF68
      NF68 5 October 2018 15: 42
      +1
      Quote: malyvalv
      It will become increasingly difficult for America to buy the raw materials and equipment it needs (this is already a blow to industry)


      That is unlikely. America, like no other country in the world, is provided with both resources and technology. They mainly buy a shirportreb.


      Are high-tech equipment, passenger airplanes of Airbass concern, passenger cars and trucks also consumer goods?
  11. NF68
    NF68 5 October 2018 15: 39
    +1
    So this is no longer news. Apparently, in the next 20-30 years, the world can really change somewhat, and it is unlikely that these changes will not be accompanied by a big showdown not only between the US and China.
  12. Alex66
    Alex66 5 October 2018 16: 03
    +4
    Relations between Russia and China resemble relations between the USSR and Germany, the same cooperation, exchange of experience, sale of raw materials. Both Germany and China have a lack of living space.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 October 2018 17: 01
    +2
    Now it’s our turn to sit on the shore and wait for a denouement and at the same time pull up our economy.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 October 2018 21: 23
      +3
      Quote: Ros 56
      simultaneously pull up your economy.

      without a well-thought-out ideology, with an eye to world problems and constantly evolving, not to raise the economy of a country like Russia
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 5 October 2018 21: 27
        +1
        I think everything will work out, too much is at stake, the very existence of the Russian Federation.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 6 October 2018 05: 49
          +3
          Quote: Ros 56
          I think everything will work out, too much is at stake, the very existence of the Russian Federation

          Pension reform has instilled instability in public consciousness. In such periods, it is characteristic that even a small impact is enough for large shifts. Who needs this? where else to move? annoying it all.
  14. populist
    populist 5 October 2018 17: 17
    +3
    Yes, the confrontation is unfolding between America and China. The article is relevant and competent.
  15. Petr7
    Petr7 5 October 2018 18: 09
    +3
    The Chinese economy and Russia's armaments will be able to create a very strong bloc.
    At the same time, it should be borne in mind that the CIS countries, at least some of them, such as Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Armenia, should also be referred to Russia (I am not specifically talking about "brotherly" Belarus - there is a separate conversation). Additionally, Mongolia can be added to this block, as well as several South American states such as Bolivia and Venezuela. Syria is also added and, oddly enough, Turkey.
    If anyone does not understand, the World is ALREADY divided, now the "deployment of troops" is just going on, before the battle.
    Why didn’t I mention Belarus and India, they are very similar: Lukashenko, although he speaks of the fraternity of peoples, is really trying to sit on two chairs, and India is doing the same and most likely they will remain at least neutral.
    It is more complicated with Azerbaijan; it is a Muslim country and economically independent, unlike the political and military spheres, but also there. while Putin is in power, and I think afterwards (if we make no mistakes), we can expect a benevolent attitude.
  16. akunin
    akunin 5 October 2018 18: 38
    +3
    Together with the rather effective reforms of Deng Xiaoping, this led to the beginning of explosive growth in China, and now to the need to confront China itself.
    this is the main thing, but we have Gorbachev's "reforms" and two different results.
    Washington understands that it is too dangerous to get into a fight with Beijing, leaving behind Putin's Russia, which will immediately start earning money on both sides of the conflict and in a couple of decades will turn into the same economic challenge as today's China.
    with favorable economic conditions (84,80 USD +0,05 Brent today, 17:07 Moscow time) national wealth is plundered and there is no economic growth, why will something change in the event of a trade war?
    today there was little comforting information: "Rusal" pushed through the use of aluminum wires for internal wiring (since the 90s, only copper wires have been used) in housing construction. Experts unanimously say that the number of wiring and fires will increase significantly. The reaction of Rusal (Deripaska) is predictable : they say we will fill up the whole of Russia with cheap aluminum wires, and the current wires are better than the previous ones - is there more aluminum? (profit above all and people's lives too)
    the company "Rusal" is registered on the British island of Jersey. the company's headquarters are located in Moscow. Russia, the people will not get anything, everything will go to the Deripaska.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 6 October 2018 05: 52
      +2
      Quote: akunin
      the company "Rusal" is registered on the British island of Jersey. the company's headquarters are located in Moscow. Russia, the people will not get anything, everything will go to the Deripaska.

      Maybe Putin has one? not our KGB agent?
      1. akunin
        akunin 6 October 2018 10: 13
        +1
        an ally of skripal?
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 6 October 2018 06: 57
      -2
      Quote: akunin
      ... welfare is stolen and there is no economic growth ... little consoling information ... specialists unanimously ... fires of wiring and fires ... everything will go to the deripaska ...

      Khoroshin Sketch, delicious good

      It’s a lie, however, sitting on a lie, and chasing them ... but it’s nothing - people shout it out. Yes, I’ve already started hawking:

      Quote: aybolyt678
      Maybe Putin has one?

      That, that ... doctor. But, campaign, not only (and not so much) Putin request

      Have you tried to include brains? fool
      1. akunin
        akunin 6 October 2018 10: 11
        +1
        but didn’t you try it yourself? stuffing into the posting account - the official media (about
        It’s a lie, however, sitting on a lie, and chasing them ... but it’s nothing - people shout it out. Yes, I’ve already started hawking:

        . Before accusing me of lying, point out where I lied (you are our truth-monger) minus should be argued.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 6 October 2018 10: 23
          -5
          Don't be bold ... those. Throws from you - come with enviable regularity, and here you really can’t get away.

          Quote: akunin
          point to where I lied

          Yes Lehko:

          Quote: akunin
          специалисты speak with one voice which will significantly increase the number of fires wiring and fires

          Let's link to "experts" who "with one voice" ... laugh together.

          I have a house of the 86th year of completion, 16 floors, luminescence everywhere - not a single wiring ignition from 1986 to now ... there are a couple of the same ones, 1988 - the same garbage. No wiring, even though you crack ... peacocks experts, say? Heh heh ...

          Quote: akunin
          Russia, people will not get anything- everything will go to the Deripaska

          Doesn't Rusal pay salaries to employees? Taxes - also does not pay?

          Fresh, new ... confirm with links, plz yes

          About the "national welfare", which is "plundered" (everything, at the root, I suppose) - too ... beautiful.

          Enough justification, or else poke your nose? wink
          1. akunin
            akunin 6 October 2018 11: 18
            +2
            I have a house of the 86th year of completion, 16 floors, luminescence everywhere - not a single wiring fire from 1986 to now ... peacocks are specialists, you say? Heh heh ...
            you are lucky. but there (among specialists) there are statistics on the country (and your house is empty in the statistical calculation)
            https://rg.ru/2016/02/16/aliuminievaia-elektroprovodka-vernetsia-v-stroitelstvo.html
            Russia, the people will not receive anything; everything will go to the Deripaska.
            if you think that state assistance to oligarchs (under sanctions) at the expense of an ordinary taxpayer is not a theft of national welfare (loans at a very low interest and interest-free)
            http://www.banki.ru/news/daytheme/?id=10472616
            https://rtvi.com/stories/kak-i-na-chi-dengi-gosudarstvo-pomozhet-oligarkham-iz-sanktsionnogo-spiska/
            transferring money to offshore (jersey island - offshore) - I don’t know what other evidence you need.
            about the taxes "rusal" - say nonsense, stuffing, then the question is why the mermaid is registered not in Uryupinsk or Moscow, but on the island of Jersey?
            http://kompromat.flb.ru/material.phtml?id=10349
            Dear, do not be a demagogue (love links?)
            https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B3
            Dear, bronzed? It is necessary to be more curious, easier, without a mentor tone.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 6 October 2018 11: 33
              -1
              Quote: akunin
              there (for specialists) country statistics (and your house is empty in the statistical calculation)
              https://rg.ru/2016/02/16/aliuminievaia-elektroprovodka-vernetsia-v-stroitelstvo.html

              Not one house, three. For thirty years - not a single fire. At home, by the way, with electric stoves, so the load is quite imagined. Empty place? Nude ...

              Next: look accusative to the link, and what we see:

              ... We are talking about the return to the sphere of housing and public construction of aluminum wiring, which was banned in 2003 for reasons of fire safety. However, the exact deadline for the lifting of the ban is not yet called...
              ... manufacturers offer two new types of aluminum alloys, which in their characteristics will not be inferior to copper ...

              Where, I ask, in the article "screaming experts"? Where is the "fire", where is the panic?

              You gave the link ... not there, try again laughing

              Quote: akunin
              state aid to oligarchs (under sanctions)

              Not so much to oligarchs as to specific industries. Or are you a fighter with deri, I'm sorry, Goss ..., with pasques, are you ready to ramp up the aluminum industry in Russia? US wants the same thing, bear in mind ... patriot negative

              I do not comment further, for the meaninglessness of this lesson. Less to you, the next is mine yes
              1. akunin
                akunin 6 October 2018 12: 14
                -2
                Sergey Pobedonostsev Head of Integrated Security Systems Alfa-Plus
                “There is lobbying by some structures to return, but it’s better not to do this. Gentlemen, get ready for massive emergency situations,” says Sergei Pobedonostsev, head of security systems projects.

                "Counterfeiting is the desire of someone to save money. And as a result, we will get problems that are typical for ordinary aluminum. This is the unreliability of electrical contact, it is instability to corrosion, that is, the problems that are on ordinary aluminum," notes the deputy technical director for science of the cable production holding Andrey Boev.

                and your 3 houses - 3 empty places
                In 2013, the total number of apartments in Russia was 61,3 million
                and no need to comment.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 6 October 2018 13: 42
                  -1
                  Quote: akunin
                  “There is lobbying by some structures to return, but it’s better not to do this. Gentlemen, get ready for massive emergency situations,” says Sergei Pobedonostsev, head of security systems projects.

                  From the same article:

                  "This alloy is the same flexible, safe, not at all brittle and very convenient during installation. And the experience of the world. These alloys have been used for many decades in America, Europe, China," says the head of the group for the development of energy consumption in the cable industry of RusAl "Ilya Kulikov

                  Opinion versus opinion, no more. Not? wink



                  Quote: akunin
                  your 3 houses - 3 empty places

                  Yeah ... and the five-story Khrushchev buildings around me are also "empty."

                  Dear, you are generally aware of why the wiring can burn? From a violation of isolation, amiable, and from nothing more. And luminium there, copper, or even cast iron - all this is very secondary.

                  All disappear. You are more uninteresting to me stop
                  1. akunin
                    akunin 8 October 2018 11: 36
                    0
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Dear, you are generally aware of why the wiring can burn? From a violation of isolation, amiable, and from nothing more.

                    dear, and you are aware that the wiring can burn from increased load (without breaking insulation)?
              2. akunin
                akunin 6 October 2018 12: 56
                -1
                order No. 968 of October 16, 2017 (min of energy of Russia) authorized the use of aluminum wires
                (you can already panic)
                in the PUE clause 7.1.34 it was indicated that the electrical wiring in residential buildings should be performed only with a copper cable (exceptions for power cables, pumping and ventilation equipment)

                canceling amendments have now been made
                and here is a fairly qualified commentary with justifications
                https://domikelectrica.ru/alyuminievaya-provodka-v-dome/
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 6 October 2018 13: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: akunin
                  here pretty qualified comment with justifications

                  Yeah ... read accusative:

                  First of all, aluminum is a flowing metal. It is several times softer than copper. Why is it dangerous and inconvenient to operate? But it threatens that you will have to regularly tighten all screw contact points with aluminum - in machines, terminal blocks and even in outlets.

                  Imagine what is in your apartment a couple of dozen outlets, and all of them every six months to a year will have to be untwisted, pulled out, pulled up and mounted again in place

                  Shah ... no more about "qualified"already funny yes

                  Drag sockets every six months - let her tell her grandmother about it ... experts, damn it, grief ... not mine laughing
                  1. akunin
                    akunin 8 October 2018 11: 41
                    0
                    and it was necessary to read until the end
                    The third is the contacts of the switching equipment. For switches, contactors, starters, voltage relays, RCDs, the same terminal blocks, they initially come if not from copper, then at least from brass. The machine and the load switch in a semicircular form of terminals
                    If such a copper-aluminum = brass-aluminum contact is directly connected, then a galvanic pair will be formed, with the formation of oxides and further heating of the junction.

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        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 6 October 2018 12: 14
          +2
          Quote: akunin
          but didn’t you try it yourself? stuffing into the posting account - official media

          There were a lot of stuffing about vodka, Aku Nin - in Japanese it means an evil person. There is such a writer, a lot of historical lies with adventure sauce. Your image is negative.
          about aluminum. In Soviet times, these delays were everywhere. You can find a boy as a kid anywhere. Now I went to buy a socket and 3 meters of wiring - China, Turkey and Russia somewhere on the sidelines.
          1. akunin
            akunin 9 October 2018 09: 13
            0
            I know who the Akunin is (and in Japanese, too) in the Soviet era, not only a lot of aluminum wire was lying, but also a lot of copper and steel (there were no purchases of ferrous and non-ferrous metals) and a lot of things were lying around. min energy order with the number and date that allows) aluminum and copper form a galvanic pair (physics, electrical engineering), which heats up and can cause a fire (copper or brass terminal blocks everywhere, China-China), and terminal blocks of Chinese and Turkish sockets are flimsy ( although our new ones are almost like that.) want to support Golovan jack? but he is the ultimate truth and the wrestler is a truth-teller (his holy opinion)
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 6 October 2018 10: 33
        +2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        That, that ... doctor. But, campaign, not only (and not so much) Putin

        Yes, I was joking, I, although by the way, I need to believe in myself? But the joke should be a fraction?
        "Have you tried to turn on your brains?" - I see so many destructive things coming from the authorities, I compare them with Perestroika and find direct analogies. The most offensive thing is that in this cacaphony of opinions, sober thoughts, useful - are not heard, precisely because of overload.
        By the way, about quotes, I quote few people, any thought I think for a long time at first.
        Thank you
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 6 October 2018 10: 35
          0
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Yeah joking i

          Then - my apologies.

          Quote: aybolyt678
          because in jest доля should it be?

          Jokes? Just a must laughing
  17. Grandfather Fichteau
    Grandfather Fichteau 5 October 2018 20: 39
    +4
    the upcoming confrontation between the US and China.

    As long as Russia exists, China can sleep peacefully, like many other countries in the world ... hi
    If confusion begins in Russia, China will immediately be killed, economically and militarily .. There will be a massacre such as the world has not seen in its history ... And then the moneylenders and other bandits will immediately engage in sweeping Russia.
    The Russians are in the way, Russia was unable to join the world division of labor .. Well, we don’t like it all! We have our way gentlemen ... hi
    1. iouris
      iouris 5 October 2018 22: 37
      +3
      Quote: Grandfather Pikhto
      Russia could not join the global division of labor ..

      Well, she didn't. But it "joined" the world division of the USSR and the socialist camp.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 6 October 2018 06: 14
      +3
      Quote: Grandfather Pikhto
      If unrest begins in Russia, China will be killed immediately

      Or maybe it will immediately become China? how is that option?
    3. Antares
      Antares 6 October 2018 11: 09
      0
      Quote: Grandfather Pikhto
      If confusion begins in Russia, China will be killed immediately, economically and militarily ... There will be a massacre, such as the world has not seen in its history.

      Well, of course, the Chinese states / associations are much more years old and this is one of the oldest civilizations (the territory of the Russian Federation did not understandably participate, since the climate)
      And soaked China constantly, and its heyday and decline, it is constantly, regardless of "urinating Russia." Even in the most stable years of the Republic of Ingushetia - she herself soaked China, squeezing out territories, for example.
      China is an original state with an ancient history and culture. This has little to do with the “troubles in Russia”.
      Today is China’s heyday, amid Russia's decline / stagnation. Everything in the world is cyclical, but it is no longer possible to say that Russia is a kind of guarantor of China. They themselves broke the system of 3 superpowers. Now one and catching up.
      1. Grandfather Fichteau
        Grandfather Fichteau 6 October 2018 14: 14
        0
        Quote: Antares
        They themselves broke the system of 3 superpowers. Now one and catching up.

        You can take a closer look at the expense of 3 over powers .. I am very interested in this And our General Staff too)))
        1. Antares
          Antares 7 October 2018 11: 00
          -1
          Quote: Grandfather Pikhto
          You can in more detail at the expense of 3 over powers ..

          The design of 3 superpowers is much more stable than 2.
          Is power balance a familiar concept?
          The ordinary laws of nature are about centers of power.
          Hi to the General Staff ...
  18. mortido
    mortido 6 October 2018 03: 43
    0
    If the upcoming congressional elections are won by the Democrats, then Trump will be impeached, and then everyone will replay ... so it's too early to rejoice. Although in the long run it is quite possible
  19. Altona
    Altona 6 October 2018 10: 30
    +3
    Quote: bulvas
    but I think - God forbid Zyuganov (Grudinin - this is generally a bad joke)

    -----------------------
    You view the historical process as static. There are two figures: conditional Putin and conditional sternin (Zyuganov long ago abandoned presidential ambitions). And supposedly the image of the future will consist of them. I have to upset you. The story is still a schemer, and completely different leaders may appear on the surface. Lenin also did not think about the 1917 revolution in the year 1915, but here it is. The process itself will push the passionaries and leaders as it was with the Donbass for example.
  20. nikvic46
    nikvic46 6 October 2018 11: 46
    +1
    I don’t want to argue with the author, but in foreign trade, China has been labeled as a “factory of the world.” 50% of world exports go to China. These are mainly household appliances. But I think that in the future,
    Robotics will also be added to exports. Cheapness and reliability are what attract buyers.
    ,
  21. d1975
    d1975 6 October 2018 12: 36
    0
    Who said something like: "Not a brother, you are to me! Not a Brother!" Oh, how I agree with that. I would prefer to climb a high mountain, and then slowly descend and do my job. Our state should have a long-term foreign policy, without floundering in different directions, a change in course should not affect this. There is someone to learn from here properly. Teachers are very experienced these days. hi
  22. naidas
    naidas 6 October 2018 18: 22
    +2
    And if the Chinese brother agrees with the American and shares the Russian brother?
  23. AnarchistVolgograd
    AnarchistVolgograd 6 October 2018 22: 29
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    The USA will cease to be a hegemon; soon China will become Russia; it will hardly ever become
  24. oracul
    oracul 8 October 2018 09: 02
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    And yet, keeping in mind that the East is a delicate matter, Russia should be prepared for a possible military clash with the United States. The question is where and when. Americans are clearly in a fever over the loss of the idea of ​​their complete hegemony, which they so longed for. They are in a hurry, and this always leads to mistakes. China, like India, with its characteristic philosophy, will prefer to sit out "on the top of the mountain", watching the fight from the sidelines. Trading and ousting rivals from the market is another matter. Alas! This is what we are not doing very well. Energy resources, weapons, nuclear power plants, space - these are large and impressive. But household appliances, health care, services are not very good.
  25. Essex62
    Essex62 8 October 2018 14: 36
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    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: akunin
    ... welfare is stolen and there is no economic growth ... little consoling information ... specialists unanimously ... fires of wiring and fires ... everything will go to the deripaska ...

    Khoroshin Sketch, delicious good

    It’s a lie, however, sitting on a lie, and chasing them ... but it’s nothing - people shout it out. Yes, I’ve already started hawking:

    Quote: aybolyt678
    Maybe Putin has one?

    That, that ... doctor. But, campaign, not only (and not so much) Putin request

    Have you tried to include brains? fool

    And if that happens, comment on the brains included? Common sense has long left our penises, one fat in priority. And when the bloody cauldron gurgles, jump into Falcon and dissolve in the sky of London. Maybe not quite so, with wires. Only for some reason I believe it.