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American Sharing: Ukraine for Syria

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US Special Representative Kurt Volker, the main hope of the Bandera fascists after the late John McCain, issued a warning: Russia will suffer great losses if it tries to annex other territories of Ukraine. Volker seems to be taking care of the new American colony, but our “peacemaker” no longer remembers bringing peacekeepers to the Donbass.




Bandera propagandists, to whom Ukraine, especially its south-eastern regions, are no less indifferent than Kurt Volker, loyally assent to the latter: Russia is preparing an attack on Ukraine and, as soon as it builds a joint venture 2, it certainly will attack! At the same time, Russia does not even introduce large-scale economic sanctions in response to some already overwhelming provocations. What does all this mean?

The United States and Poroshenko’s “cynical Bandera” are planning a military escalation in the Donbas: Washington for geopolitical reasons, Poroshenko for electoral ones. And then they are going to cry out: “And why should we be?” They are always as if not for anything, they are always white and fluffy ...

What Kurt Walker dreams out loud, as if warning about this, is possible in the event of general destabilization in the world and the start of hostilities between the United States and Russia, on a limited scale and with conventional weapons, as many reputable Western experts hope. Then all the masks will be dropped, it will become obvious that the Bandera Ukraine is a complete colony and a US bridgehead, and with no military base on their borders do not stand on ceremony ...

Such a turn of events is possible. Russia won the US Syria, Bashar Asad not only withstood, but established control over the whole of Syria, and Russia with the help of C-300 establishes a no-fly zone over Syria, with its formal introduction, the failure of the US in Syria will become apparent. Therefore, a military incident with an American or Israeli aircraft over the territory of Syria, which would have echoed in Ukraine, is also possible. Kurt Walker is responsible for his Ukrainian sequel. In Washington, it seems, there is a plan to take revenge for Syria in Ukraine.

The United States is clearly aggravating the situation in the world, putting forward new claims on Russia on the INF Treaty, spinning up anti-Russian hysteria - all this speaks of preparing the United States for the beginning of the so-called limited world war with Russia, but across the globe. To clamp Russia in its borders and capture the rest of the world, and then present a new ultimatum. Again, world trends are predicting a new economic crisis, and you need to blame someone, explain that the United States, the world's leading debtor and the generator of empty dollars, is not to blame for anything, but the whole thing is Russia's aggression in Ukraine and Syria.

The problem with such a plan to destabilize the world is that Russia has taken a bad habit of not coming to war, so it is not known how it will react to attempts to escalate in Syria and in Ukraine, or how events in the world will actually follow. Volker seems to anticipate Russia's military actions in Ukraine, but he is not sure that he is not mistaken, as happened with the “peacekeepers” in the Donbas.

Another factor of US restraint is the military rapprochement between Russia and China. In the absence of relevant treaties, which Western experts always mention, military cooperation between Russia and China has taken on an unprecedented character, maneuvers are being conducted like those of the NATO countries. According to Western commentaries, Russia and China act defiantly against the United States: Russia - in Syria with the support of Assad and the supply of C-300, China - in the South China Sea unceremoniously chases American destroyers. As if between Russia and China there is an unofficial (secret!) Military treaty in the event of a military confrontation of any of the countries with the United States.

In any case, large-scale joint military maneuvers of Russia and China, deliveries of the latest Russian weapons to China, the political coordination of countries on issues of war and peace - all this already exists, and speaks of the possibility of a secret military treaty between Russia and China, directed against the United States.

Washington thinks about it. President Trump unequivocally explains his desire to “get along with Russia” with the intention of simultaneously driving a wedge between Russia and China. If you cannot drive a wedge, it means that he came across a serious obstacle, possibly in the form of an unwritten military treaty. US Vice President Mike Pence suddenly discovered that Russia's intervention in the affairs of American "democracy" is negligible compared to China's intervention. This is a probing of relations between Russia and China.

The Washington Post, American globalists and demagogues, with Kurt Walker, the governor of Bandera’s Ukraine, are confident that the US can crack down on both Russia and China, and therefore they trudge Trump’s “compromiser with Russia” and the “dictator Putin”. Their global world is collapsing, they have nothing to lose. Is there anything to lose the rest, we will see on the results of the elections to the US Congress 6 November.
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  1. Smoked
    Smoked 8 October 2018 10: 13
    +5
    Why does Poroshenko need a military escalation in the Donbass if everything goes as it should? !! The population of Ukraine is methodically reformatted, IMHO including the church, but it makes no sense to accept LDNR back.
    1. HAM
      HAM 8 October 2018 10: 24
      +4
      Most of the industrial potential is in the Donbass, and this is something that means yes .. directly ownerless.
      1. Smoked
        Smoked 8 October 2018 10: 37
        +5
        They are now a great agrarian power, a large part of the population earning money outside the country, and the rest live on money transferred, why do they need industry? Rocket building to establish yes?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 October 2018 23: 08
          0
          Agrarian can be called Ukraine, but not great
    2. figwam
      figwam 8 October 2018 10: 37
      +2
      Quote: Smoked
      Why does Poroshenko need a military escalation in the Donbass if everything goes as it should

      With a garbage rating like hiss, elections cannot be won, only the beginning of the war will allow him to remain in power.
      1. Smoked
        Smoked 8 October 2018 10: 43
        +3
        After the whole Ukrainian circus, to read about "only war will help to win elections", well, this is something to itself.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 8 October 2018 10: 44
        +9
        Quote: figvam
        With such a garbage rating like hiss, elections cannot be won,

        you know that elections do not win, they are held. more for the view.
        1. Random
          Random 8 October 2018 11: 52
          +6
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          you know that elections do not win, they are held. more for the view.

          And I don’t understand at all, well, honestly ... what is the article about ??? belay what
          And this is a quote .. actually ... "killed off" wassat - "..... Then all the masks will be dropped, it will become obvious that Bandera's Ukraine is a complete colony and a bridgehead of the United States, and they don't stand on ceremony with a military bridgehead on their borders ... "
          Only BLYZORUKY and ... what "does not understand" that Banderaism is Fascism in its purest form.
          And "our leaders" than ..... " request are engaged. "
          Here ... sad
          1. dSK
            dSK 8 October 2018 15: 22
            +1
            Quote: Random
            Bandera is Fascism in its purest form.

            Ukraine for Syria
            not equal exchange for the States.
            The "capture" of Ukraine for them is the second most important achievement after the collapse of the USSR.
      3. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 8 October 2018 11: 07
        +1
        I found this opinion Svido ukrov ... The worst thing is that they are right ... https://ibigdan.livejournal.com/22604639.html?utm_source=fbsharing&utm_medium=social Waltzman seems to stay in power in Ukraine!
        1. 2329 Carpenter
          2329 Carpenter 8 October 2018 12: 05
          +4
          It is not clear why he is buried ahead of time ...
          Give wishful thinking - well, of this, 80% of the comments on the site are made up.
      4. LSA57
        LSA57 10 October 2018 10: 32
        0
        Quote: figvam
        With such a garbage rating like hiss, elections cannot be won,

        the Phillington regional committee will choose. experience they do not occupy
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 8 October 2018 11: 06
      +4
      Who said that Poroshenko even decides something? Who cares what he wants and what doesn't?
    4. Antares
      Antares 8 October 2018 21: 54
      0
      Quote: Smoked
      Why would Poroshenko have a military escalation in the Donbass if everything is going as it should already ?!

      ROSSMI said it must, it means it must .. Alertness in society, it must be kept ..
      .Poroshenko, of course, is not in the know, but according to the KhPP, he will all be indicated by US advisers who could not get his 4-year-old complete puppet to start a war with the Russian Federation laughing
      sur some these hpp ...
  2. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 8 October 2018 10: 25
    +2
    The United States is not capable of digesting China, but China is able to digest the USA. Not in this century, but in the next. This is trump and infuriates. tongue
  3. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 October 2018 10: 31
    +4
    The article has it all: America, Trump, Walker. Also Kiev and Poroshenko. But how the Kremlin relates to events in Ukraine, the author was shy to say. Oh yes, the new trick is praying to China. How do you humiliate Russia! Neither Russia, nor the Russian Empire, nor the Soviet Union hid behind anyone's backs. And now it’s only heard that uncle China will come and give these Americans. Oh, you! You are not up off your knees. You fell face down in the mud!
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    2. ser65
      ser65 8 October 2018 10: 44
      +5
      you calm down your cockroaches in your head ....
    3. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 8 October 2018 10: 45
      +4
      Well, who is hiding behind whom ?! Where did you see that? States climb two large countries at once. So the enemy is common to them. I don’t see anything else personally. And remember, you are no more Union! No. This has already happened, and it is irreversible. As well as the fact that we are all getting older and younger we will not.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 October 2018 10: 57
        -3
        States climb two large countries at once.
        Do you not believe the president of Russia? States is our partner.
        no more union!
        When a woman gets married she changes her last name. Is it right to say that she is not?
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 8 October 2018 10: 58
          +3
          what or who is not?) women or surnames?))) and what should he call them? Enemies and slipping on the platform grunting?)
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 8 October 2018 11: 04
            +1
            what or who is not? tap on the podium grunting?
            Your comment is similar to the reincarnation of Golovan-Alabai
            1. Bull Terrier
              Bull Terrier 8 October 2018 11: 05
              +2
              Super answer))))) unfortunately your, I look like dad)
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 11 October 2018 22: 45
          -1
          Quote: Gardamir
          When a woman gets married she changes her last name. Is it right to say that she is not?

          Yeah, changes the name, and then what? Chops off his arms and legs?
    4. garrett
      garrett 8 October 2018 11: 02
      +5
      I agree, the author has a lot of confusion and almost no analytics
      1. Horon
        Horon 8 October 2018 11: 18
        +1
        In fact, this article belongs to the category of opinion and it does not have to be serious analytics with all the calculations and arguments! winked
      2. Artem Popov
        Artem Popov 13 October 2018 23: 48
        -1
        The author’s halted front end is over, for sure.
    5. malyvalv
      malyvalv 8 October 2018 11: 30
      +5
      Come on. Stalin, for example, never refused the help of the allies. Moreover, he just insisted on opening a "second front" in an adult way. Not in some Africa or Italy, but right in France.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 October 2018 12: 23
        +4
        Stalin, for example, never refused the help of allies
        Well, it was all clear who the enemy was who called himself an ally. Today. Kiselev-Soloviev comes out and talks about the enemies of the Americans. Then the president gives an interview and calls everyone partners. You open the VO website, and here is an article on how Rogozin intends to negotiate either with enemies, or with partners.
        And China is too close to us, not to the Americans, and it has territorial claims against all its neighbors. Therefore, reinforcing such a neighbor is like chopping off the branch you are sitting on.
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 8 October 2018 14: 07
          +2
          Gardamir, I understand you: urgently to China, arrest Ragozin as a traitor. America sleeps and sees that we have a tense relationship with China. Remember the Second World War: Stalin knew perfectly well what to expect from England and America, but he sent them letters of friendship. Or take 1968, when relations with China were many times worse than they are with America and Ukraine combined. What did Brezhnev do: "pot on pot and rose" or according to the principle: "a bad world is better than a good quarrel"?
          Actually, I myself am annoyed by this situation, but for now we can’t talk hard with them.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 8 October 2018 14: 52
            +3
            I understood you
            No, you did not understand me. We need to live in peace with our neighbors, but this does not mean that we should sell gas to China at half price, and even equip it. Rogozin is not a cheater but a chatterbox, but he seems to be a statesman. What America dreams about, I don’t know. But we are reminded from every iron that only China will save Russia from America.
            As for the Great Patriotic War, nobody called Hitler a partner, because it was a clear enemy. The British and Americans did not care about Stalin's hotel. But when the Soviet people drove the invaders away from Moscow, only then did the land lease come into effect. And only when it became clear that Moscow would win without allies, a second front opened.
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 11 October 2018 22: 48
          -1
          Quote: Gardamir
          Then the president gives an interview and calls everyone partners.

          It's just that we and you have a different concept of the word "partner". Share you this "business" partner. For us, it's a same-sex love partner. This is how our president calls them.
    6. NEOZ
      NEOZ 8 October 2018 12: 54
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Oh, you! You are not up off your knees. You fell face down in the mud!

      well yes. back in 91m .....
      we won’t get up .... maybe it’s never ....
  4. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 8 October 2018 10: 49
    +10
    Once again I read about the insidious plans of the United States and its Ukrainian clientele. I read and heard all this many times. But what should we do? The author, as it were, boasts that Russia is not responding to the machinations. And so
    most somehow frustrates their intentions. But in the meantime, enemy forces in Ukraine are gaining ground. Do our authorities plan for Ukraine to hang a weight on our neck for many years. Everywhere you go, Russia is bad everywhere. Therefore, we can not only save a breakthrough in the economy, but also not save the existing situation. The hopelessness of a policy of appeasement has been historically proven
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 8 October 2018 10: 52
      -1
      And what are your options?) Is this what you can offer regarding Ukraine? War? Sanctions? Fences and ditches along the border?)
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 8 October 2018 11: 57
        +3
        I have no options. Russia suffered a severe defeat in Ukraine. Therefore, it remains only to reveal insidious plans, but the reading public knows them by heart. but to facilitate our situation, we really can’t do anything.
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 8 October 2018 12: 26
          0
          Defeat?) Rather, it’s just complexity. I always could not understand such a statement of the question - another country, other people. They choose their rulers. They live, build an economy. People change. How can one be defeated there? Put your leaders? Destroy those who do not fit? They were given huge sums of money. Fees, loans, resources. Culture, communication, children. What else?)
          1. mikh-korsakov
            mikh-korsakov 8 October 2018 13: 27
            +2
            There are friendly states and there are hostile states. If the state is friendly, then trading with it brings benefits, if the state is hostile, then it is necessary to spend money on protection from its machinations. These are elementary truths. Our policy in Ukraine was short-sighted, we provided it with everything that you listed, while Putin’s partners and friends systematically paved the way for the Maidan. During the Maidan, Yanukovych acted cowardly, if we pushed him to decisive action, then his power would remain, with all the understanding of the personality of Yanukovych, if his power remained, then in any case there would be no need to annex Crimea. On the other hand, sanctions would be imposed on Ukraine, which further connected it with Russia. We were led to a provocation and were forced to annex Crimea. The mousetrap slammed shut. We received a hostile state, after which we had no opportunity to influence the situation except for a senseless air shock, exposing the machinations of the US winner.
            1. Bull Terrier
              Bull Terrier 8 October 2018 13: 46
              -2
              There are too many random numbers in this.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 8 October 2018 12: 56
      0
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Russia does not respond to the machinations.

      Saro does not shy, Saro builds up strength!
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 9 October 2018 12: 55
        0
        Quote: NEOZ
        Saro

        * Capo - mentor, patron, rabbi, boss, boss, patron (from Italian).
  5. KBaHT_BpeMeHu
    KBaHT_BpeMeHu 8 October 2018 10: 49
    0
    Taking revenge in Ukraine is not the best choice, we have a common border, and Ukraine is far from the states. In addition, it is not necessary to send troops, the VKS and Navy in a couple of weeks can nullify the strongest army in Europe, and Ukraine itself can be returned to Gogolev time.
    1. Antares
      Antares 8 October 2018 21: 58
      0
      Quote: KBaHT_BpeMeHu
      The VKS and Navy in a couple of weeks can nullify the strongest army in Europe, and return Ukraine itself to Gogolev time

      and everyone will watch and applaud? After all, one of the HPPs is to prevent a war from unleashing, but what you propose is a war. In its most burning version. I'm afraid the partners will be very happy ...
      No need to boast about walking on the army .... VKS is not a panacea for all air defense systems ...
      1. KBaHT_BpeMeHu
        KBaHT_BpeMeHu 9 October 2018 09: 22
        0
        and everyone will watch and applaud?
        You do not care if there is a threat to the Russian state, it must be resolved. Dispersal in homes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are chances!
  6. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 8 October 2018 11: 16
    +3
    As for the crisis - a good idea. By its beginning, Russia should cease to exist as a BUYER. The goal is precisely that. We have (unlike the United States) real money received for real resources. The global financial system will finally grunt, and then what will happen? And then only those funds that are provided with something real will be appreciated. And there are not so many of them in the world.
    One of the largest holders of such funds, backed by the real economy, is Russia. And everyone who needs real money will inevitably rush to us. We will form a couple with China, which for some time will dictate everything in the global economy. After all, "money", which at the moment is already 30 times greater than real world assets, will have to get rid of completely.
    Here is the United States and surround us with sanctions and conflicts. In order for everyone to be warned at the time of the strike, trade with Russia will entail a US military response. Because when the dollar dies, the United States will have only that. A mountain of weapons and bases around the world. Apparently, soon it still smells ...
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 8 October 2018 13: 11
      0
      Quote: Mikhail3
      We have (unlike the United States) real money received for real resources.

      Michael, what do you mean?
      please give definitions of "real money", "not real money".
      Quote: Mikhail3
      After all, from "money", which at the moment is already 30 times higher than real world assets

      why? what do you mean?
      ps
      I ask you to give real examples of your words, without specific examples Your "blah blah" looks like verbiage.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 8 October 2018 15: 45
        +4
        Real money is provided with real goods and resources. For example (not to go far) oil and gas. What I mean? Don't you really know? Well, I have five minutes, for the hundredth time I will tell you personally)
        Well, there is a banker in the world. And he wants to increase his assets (strange, huh?) What is he doing now? No, earlier it’s clear, it was necessary to attract other people's money, to take profits from controlled enterprises, to give loans for production growth and to take interest ... all this is hopelessly outdated. Now they do it.
        Register a company. This company shows "good reporting", in the sense that it has money in its account, equipment, materials. The interested bank helps with this. Now the firm borrows from the bank. More! Where is the profit, you ask? And look - the bank is selling this debt! In the debt market! And what happens? The economy has "grown". For the amount of the sale. And this very debt begins to walk around the market, as an independent payment unit. Cool, isn't it?
        The state did not release this money, but it already exists! Then the enterprise can be bankrupt, and the jar can be closed, God bless him, if he has done such tricks enough times for a good amount. The debt will not be affected, it has been wrapped so many times that the economy has already swallowed this "money". Which are not. And they are! As zeros and ones in bank accounts.
        Have you heard that the whole world owes a monstrous sum to anyone? It is because of such numbers that the world "should". And that is why there is either 25 or 35 times more convertible currency in the world than real values. Gold, silver, newspapers, steamers and diapers. The overwhelming majority of such "money" is in the dollar, it is also the world currency, and its owners have been engaged in such operations for the last thirty years so actively, as if the end of the world is already tomorrow.
        This is the story, the little ones. Now the world financial system is a stupid fiction. She holds on simply because her collapse will be a monstrous shock, and everyone understands this. But endlessly juggling with torches is impossible. Hands, you know, get tired. And when it gets bogged down, money will be quoted only by those that correspond to real wealth. Resources, factories ... But the dollar will have to be sanitized all the way to the last cent, because it will not be possible to separate the real from the inflated one.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 8 October 2018 16: 00
          +1
          The demand for specific examples was especially delivered. For concrete examples in this area, people go out with garbage and never come anywhere ...
        2. NEOZ
          NEOZ 8 October 2018 21: 47
          0
          Quote: Mikhail3
          0
          Real money is provided with real goods and resources. For example (not to go far) oil and gas. What I mean? Don't you really know? Well, I have five minutes, for the hundredth time I will tell you personally)

          I consider, that you are mistaken...
          your "theory" to reality has a very conditional approximation, in my sofa opinion.
          money ("real" and "not real" and others) is not a value (good), but is a TOOL for getting good !!!!
          the very essence of financial and other manipulations is consumption is good, and what you describe is a tool for obtaining them.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 9 October 2018 12: 11
            0
            "Good" is a term from psychotechnics. "Change yourself and you will change the world!" Ugh ... Financial manipulators consume disproportionately little compared to the money they have and what they have available. Their goals and their ways of life have nothing to do with the poverty you described, they have other problems. This is all you have from hunger ...
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 10 October 2018 10: 31
              0
              Quote: Mikhail3
              consume negligible

              starving or what?
              ps
              I didn’t see the point in your text ...
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 10 October 2018 16: 01
                0
                I know that they did not see, and this is sad. You wanted to brand a consumer society, huh? Excuse me ... Well, let's try to find the point. A man rolls billions of dollars. It is such a person who can perform operations that are noticeable on the scale of which I spoke.
                The amount of his consumption relative to the cases in which he is involved is negligible. Even if he bathes in a bath of black caviar. Even if champagne is poured in his pool. Even if he changes the yachts every Friday. Anyway, these expenses are very difficult to notice against the background of the things that he does. And they do not globally affect anything at all.
                By the way, these people usually live quite modestly. Just because they don’t need to wave their possessions, and they are busy and busy people. So they eat modestly, take little part in entertainment, their movements are paid for by the profit of real enterprises, and their private planes in their spare time make a profit.
                All this is not of good spiritual qualities, they are just focused on getting dough, and not on stupid waste. You do not see the point in my texts, because my texts are from a different horizon of thinking.
                We are talking about different things. For you, money is a way of satisfying your needs, and primary ones in the main. My affairs are also not encouraging now). But I think that in this case I am talking about something else. About what the topic raised in the article. And it is much more than the problem of satiety of a single stomach ...
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 11 October 2018 10: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  I know that they did not see, and this is sad.

                  why sad did it ever occur to you that you were mistaken?
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  You wanted to brand a consumer society, huh?

                  no, branding is not mine - these are emotions, but I prefer logic and common sense. I write what I see (as it seems to me). my conclusions are based on facts and laws of nature (physical), as well as from historical parallels (how many brains are enough).
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  Well, let's try to make sense.

                  let's
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  Man rolls billions of dollars

                  blah blah blah - where are the facts?
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  You do not see the point in my texts, because my texts are from a different horizon of thinking.

                  it is possible, as well as possible, that your "horizon" is not right. suddenly, you live in a world of illusion and think that this is the truth?
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  For you, money is a way to satisfy your needs, and primary ones in the main.

                  you made a wrong conclusion ...
                  for me money is one of the tools achieve the goal !!!! any goals - personal, public, state, planetary.
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  And it is much more than the problem of satiety of a single stomach ...

                  and if the stomach is a whole country (well, for example, the Roman Empire, which allowed itself to vigorously celebrate, without working, 300 days a year - and all at the expense of its colonies)
                  or if the stomach is a group of countries (well, for example, the countries of the collective West, which allows itself to consume 75% of the world's goods (industrial production / agricultural / services) ....
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 12 October 2018 16: 02
                    0
                    Sold out? Psychologist from the American grant program?
                    Sorry, young man. I myself disdain to use psychological keys, but almost completely inert to other people's attempts. Have fun further ...
  7. vladcub
    vladcub 8 October 2018 13: 49
    0
    Quote: Smoked
    They are now a great agrarian power, a large part of the population earning money outside the country, and the rest live on money transferred, why do they need industry? Rocket building to establish yes?

    And for this Petun needs to kiss the knives, clean the snout (choose what you want).
    Every time I thank God that EBN voluntarily left his post, otherwise we would "have fun"
  8. Machito
    Machito 8 October 2018 13: 49
    -1
    After the construction of gas pipelines to Germany, Turkey, China, the need for Ukrainian gas transit will disappear, which will lead to further degradation and collapse of the economy and the Ukrainian state with the possible collapse of the army and the front in the Donbass. After which the armies of LDNR may well go on the offensive on Kiev and Lviv. In any case, the economic situation in LDNR will be better than in Ukraine, which will not add to it either stability or stability. The fate of the state of Ukraine will be short and sad.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 8 October 2018 18: 59
      +4
      Quote: Bearded
      After the construction of pipelines to Germany, Turkey, China, the need for Ukrainian gas transit will disappear,

      I bet a bottle of Armenian brandy against your two that Ukrainian transit will continue regardless of the launch of SP-2. Two lines of the Turkish Stream and Power of Siberia do not solve anything at all.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 8 October 2018 21: 39
        0
        Quote: Karabin
        I put a bottle of Armenian cognac against your two that Ukrainian transit will be preserved regardless of the launch of SP-2

        It depends on who buys this stuff. Gazprom offered to buy the Bandera GTS, but they are looking for the naive in the West because of their vicious beliefs. In the West, it was considered that SP 1,2 and hubs are more profitable. The demand for gas will increase, despite the entropy in the universe and global warming. hi
    2. Antares
      Antares 8 October 2018 22: 00
      +2
      Quote: Bearded
      In any case, the economic situation in LDNR will be better than in Ukraine, which will not add to it either stability or stability.

      that is, to make ORDiLO's standard of living better than in Ukraine is possible only by destroying the Ukrainian economy? ... Hmm, I thought the Russian Federation had at least some better option for raising the ORDiLO economy from the gray zone ... here it is ..
  9. vladcub
    vladcub 8 October 2018 14: 12
    +3
    The author built his article on emotions, and this looks like hack
    1. Antares
      Antares 8 October 2018 22: 01
      +1
      Quote: vladcub
      The author built his article on emotions, and this looks like hack

      Well this is a unique Kamenev, it can be recognized by the first phrases and even the headings ...
      "Bricklayer"
    2. Curious
      Curious 8 October 2018 23: 30
      +1
      ",,, it looks like hack."
      Thank God, you finally managed to get to the very essence of the work of this author.
  10. iouris
    iouris 8 October 2018 15: 26
    -1
    The very hypothesis of such a change is fruitless, because the Kremlin could immediately put Ukraine under control, and even the state of the USSR could not fall apart so that a limited number of people, mainly Andropov’s comrades-in-arms, began to live like communism. The oligarchs of the Russian Federation do not need Ukraine, since there will be insoluble problems of the redistribution of property, which will be solved in London, Stockholm and Washington not in favor of the oligarchs of the Russian Federation.
  11. Beholder
    Beholder 8 October 2018 18: 46
    +1
    Quote: Smoked
    Why does Poroshenko need a military escalation in the Donbass if everything goes as it should? !! The population of Ukraine is methodically reformatted, IMHO including the church, but it makes no sense to accept LDNR back.

    Look from the other side: And why the Russian Federation of Lao PDR? there is Kuzbass, the top of the Lao PDR wants a lot more.
  12. high
    high 8 October 2018 19: 01
    -2
    Russia won Syria against the United States, Bashar Assad not only resisted, but established control over the whole of Syria, and Russia, using the S-300, established a no-fly zone over Syria, with its formal introduction, the US failure in Syria will become obvious.

    In the section ,, Opinions ,, - opinions will be different, but nonsense is not worth writing ....
    What kind of no-fly zone in Syria, with the help of S-300 can be said, if professionals explained that microelectronics play the main role in high-tech products.
    Alas, whose microelectronics would previously react to danger: an airplane or S-300, that will destroy the enemy.
    Until 2014, the United States provided Russia with microelectronics, today Russia is buying microelectronics in China, the level of which is not comparable with the West.
    By the way, Israel is installing its electronics on F-35 airplanes, and the result of the duel, an airplane or S-300, is beyond doubt.
    Apparently, this is why Putin needs a meeting with Netanyahu, as the Russian independent newspaper wrote, Israel helps Russia save face ...
    http://www.ng.ru/kartblansh/2018-10-04/3_7325_kartb.html
    Apparently, there will be no talk of any duel (aircraft or S-300), since the level of missiles and smart bombs is such that they are launched from a distance of several hundred kilometers from their destination.
    Already, Russian professionals, for example, the general director of the Almaz-Anteya SSKB, who called the distance from the destroyed Iranian warehouse to Israeli aircraft, at that time, was about 100 km .... when the Syrian air defense destroyed the Il-20, Israeli aircraft were already on its base.
  13. Antares
    Antares 8 October 2018 22: 05
    +3
    Kamenev incorrigible ... Bandera, the Nazis, the junta ... Ukraine fall apart, etc.
    Exchange of some kind, Victory in Syria ..
    it’s not nice to read in terms that victories are everywhere, Americans are retreating, merging everywhere .. The Russian Federation is advancing victoriously on all fronts. It’s a pity in reality, everything is not so simple.
    The United States is not at all inclined to exchange something - they exchange it with an equal rival Rockets in Turkey for missiles in Cuba, for example ... but what can be exchanged with modern Russia? Play long as usual. And as time shows - the game brings results, the enemy makes mistakes more often than the United States and there are not so many resources - but I am silent about allies.
  14. EvilLion
    EvilLion 9 October 2018 14: 10
    0
    Russia won in Syria. And where did the USA win, so that someone could make concessions to them?