Air defense system in Syria: C-300 as a response to events and its possible consequences

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So, the promised continuation in the form of concrete actions. Russia will supply Syria not the newest, but rather effective C-300 air defense systems. More precisely, C-300PMU-2.





In fact, we are arming the Syrian army with defensive armaments, capable of controlling the sky, not only of Syria, but a sufficiently large part of the territory of Israel. This is the case if the complexes will be located in the Damascus area. But you can arrange them where the entire territory of the Jewish state will be controlled.

An interesting alignment, especially in light of the upcoming talks.

For a start, it is worth remembering the events of a very recent past. Start over.

The C-300 complex was adopted by the Soviet Army in 1978 year. The C-300 PMU-2 Favorite complex is younger by 20 years and was introduced in the 1997 year. Impressed by the firing range. From 3 to 200 kilometers for aerodynamic targets, from 5 to 40 kilometers for ballistic targets, from 5 to 38 kilometers for low-flying targets.

The system was offered in the export version. The structure of the C-300PMU-2 SAMs includes:

1. The command point of the control system 83М6Е2.
2. Up to 6 XRUMNXX90X6 ADMS.
3. 48H6Е2 anti-aircraft guided missiles.
4. Means of technical support, analogous to S-CNUMXPMU-300.

Agree, with all the "terribleness" of the Russian complex, for one of the leaders in the field of electronics and unmanned aviation States of the world complexes are not so dangerous. And it is possible that the numerous complexes sold by Russia to various states made it possible, if not to create an effective counteraction system, then at least begin work in this direction.

Probably worth translating. For F-35, our complex may not pose such a threat as we would like. But for F-15 and 16 - quite.

So why in Israel’s military circles today there is clearly a “big concern” about Russia’s decision? Are Israelis afraid of firing Syrian installations? It is doubtful. For all our well-known philanthropy, we are not rich enough to cover the entire territory of Syria at our expense.

Are you afraid of installing "Favorites" in the Golan Heights? So much of the heights is controlled by Israel. And there’s no war there ...

Despite Israel’s unwillingness to advertise once again its own relations with the United States and Russia, the answer is hidden there.

There is no secret that Israel is actively supported by the United States. Starting from a decent annual sum for defense and ending with blocking decisions of the UN Security Council on Israel.

But at the same time, the Jews have learned the Russian proverb about a gentle calf perfectly, Israel is able to negotiate with everyone, including with Russia. Remember the refusal of Russia to fulfill the contract for the supply of C-300 complexes to Iran and Syria. And in the case of Syria, we even returned the money already paid for the complexes. At the urgent request of Israel ...

Moreover, the Israelis even allowed themselves to blackmail Russia by launching air strikes at the locations of our complexes if they were delivered to the Syrian army.

So why is Israel so concerned with defensive air defense complexes?

Do Israelis fly so much over Syria? Or can the C-300 fire ground-to-ground missiles? Maybe Assad uses C-300 to protect Hezbollah?

Not. Everything is much simpler. In our humble opinion, the solution lies a little away from Israel.

Recall that in the region there are also coalition troops, the aircraft of which fly with absolute impunity over most regions of Syria. And here lies the answer to the actions of the Israelis. They simply fulfill the order of their patrons. Alas, you have to pay for everything. Even for the money.

Tel Aviv does not save its own pilots, but Americans and others like them. The presence of C-300 will make life difficult for them. And above all, they, the Americans, the French and other fighters against terrorism.

Actually, Israel traditionally strikes from the airspace of Lebanon. Lebanon is silent. But, in principle, everyone understands what gets away with Israel in the context of the war with Syria, in Syria, not a ride. And the so-called “world community”, outraged, naturally, by the boorish behavior of Assad, who, moreover, does not want to leave the presidency, may well suit him something like the Libyan scenario.

The main thing is to warm up the situation to a certain degree. And as for the community just will not rust. They will come running with democracy, they will arrive, they will come. On aircraft carriers.

But the jokes are jokes, but in essence, the delivery of the Favorites is the logical conclusion to the creation of an air defense system. Experts have noticed one nuance in the message of our MO. Shoigu said the following:

"The command posts of the Syrian divisions and military air defense units will be equipped with automated control systems that are supplied only to the Russian armed forces."

Just a few words, and another headache to our "allies in the fight against terrorism" is ready.

Syria’s air defense today is conditionally a serious force in view of the fact that it is equipped with a large number of really outdated Soviet-made systems.

С-125, С-200 complexes, military systems Buk, Wasp, Strela-10, Armor-С1 now complement С-300. If we consider all these systems as a single organism, then everything falls on its places. And, in principle, layered defense is drawn.

The shelling of the Syrian facilities by the 14 coalition of April of this year showed that aviation would be at least seriously battered in the event that the Syrian batteries entered the area of ​​responsibility.

The only thing that really strains in this situation is the fanatical faith of the Syrians. Belief in Allah. Remember the sensational history with the destruction of the "shell"? Look at the time of the destruction of the installation and compare it with the time of the namaz ... Whatever happened to the new complex as well.

Also, recent events cast doubt on the proper training of the Syrian military and the presence of a normal system of coordination. Of course, this is a solvable problem, but solvable over a period of time.

The point is not something that is not one month, no matter how long. So while in Israel they can either sleep well (if the planes will not fly) or be nervous about any reason, since, in our opinion, the Syrian “specialists” are not much inferior to the Ukrainian ones.

Here it is clear that the reference goes to the events of the 2001 of the year, which once again should not be reminded of either the Russians or the Jews.

Concluding the conversation about the Russian answer, I would like to say a phrase that today turns in the language of many.

Tomorrow will show all.

It is only at first glance it seems nonsense. In fact, by saying the word “tomorrow”, we mean not only Russian-Israeli negotiations, but also many other issues of relations with neighbors, the fight against terrorism and so on ...

But it is worth talking about this separately, because there are really a lot of nuances here. And, we think, not everything will be pleasant to hear Israel.

For example, it is worth talking about the resumption of negotiations on the sale of C-300 to Iran ... And about the consequences of such a step. But - to be continued.
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  1. +22
    27 September 2018 05: 53
    Dear authors, I agree with many of the points made in this publication. But I cannot agree with this:
    Russia will supply Syria not the newest, but rather effective C-300 air defense systems. More precisely C-300PMU-2.
    ZRS (anti-aircraft missile systemAnd not complex) C-300PMU-2 is export modification of the S-300PM. Let's ask ourselves a question where does it come from? It takes about 1,5-2 years to build a regimental set of air defense systems (based on the timing of the Iranian contract). Do you have information that Almaz-Antey is building an air defense system for Syria? No. In the CAP, only C-300PS / PM from the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation, with Russian calculations, can be promptly supplied.
    1. +9
      27 September 2018 06: 36
      Quote: Bongo
      Let's ask where does it come from?

      Shoigu said that the complexes were ready for delivery to Syria already in 2013. And where could they disappear during this time? Stand on conservation.
      So where will it take clear ...
      1. +8
        27 September 2018 06: 54
        Quote: domokl
        Shoigu said that the complexes were ready for delivery to Syria already in 2013. And where could they disappear during this time? Stand on conservation.
        So where will it take clear ...

        Well, such arguments would lead people uninformed. But you constantly write for VO, and probably remember what was published on the site before. Elements of the C-300 ZRS, intended for the SAR, according to numerous statements by our officials, have long been disposed of, and the construction itself has not been fully completed. This was also reported on the Military Review.
        I have a question for you as a moderator, why the opportunity to insert active links has disappeared?
        1. 0
          27 September 2018 08: 41
          Quote: Bongo
          Elements of the S-300 air defense system intended for the ATS, according to numerous statements by our officials, have long been disposed of

          Is it recycled? Well, not for metal wink Changed the electronic stuffing, that's the whole recycling Sergey feelThe main know-how of our air defense systems is software operation algorithms.
          1. -1
            27 September 2018 16: 20
            The authors of the article begin discussions on the parities and capabilities of individual weapons of the Russian Federation and Israel ... Is it not clear that Russia deliberately and deliberately caused significant material damage and the deaths of the 15 best specialists. Only a political ultimatum suing Israel and banning flights and bombing Syrian territory is an adequate response. It’s not a military conflict, but a POLITICAL conflict — if you neglect the justified requirements of all international laws, a full-fledged blow to the air force bases in Israel and preparations for the use of nuclear weapons should follow .. But the president of the Russian Federation, who by direct official duties should guide the resolution of the conflict, does not appears, and ministers speak. .. Only the president and only with such ultimatum compulsion can close the topic of confrontation, otherwise Israeli tricks and villainies will go on, and then victims on the part of Russia, for the will of Russia is now beginning to look like lack of will .....
        2. +4
          27 September 2018 09: 47
          According to numerous statements by our officials, elements of the S-300 air defense system intended for the ATS have long been disposed of, and the construction itself has not been brought to an end. About this, including wrote on Military Review.


          Gentlemen, let's not be naive ... Long gone are the days when we disposed of new weapons. You can, of course, say this in order to put an end to the negotiations (due to the lack of an object for them), but still. To promise is not to marry.

          About the article.
          The view, of course, is interesting, but several points have not been taken into account.
          1.) How did the authors get the idea that S-300 deliveries to Syria are free? "We are not that rich" is a very correct phrase. Yes, there is a whole system of preferential conditions for Syria (loans, installments, deferrals, discounts, etc.). But we do not supply them with anything for free in its pure form (humanitarian aid + "military services" does not count).
          2.) The S-300 will definitely complicate and make more expensive any Israeli operations in Syria.
          3.) The threat to coalition aircraft, of course, will increase. However, it was not the lack of capabilities of the ATS that saved these aircraft earlier. the main factor is fear of consequences. What will the United States do after the destruction of their aircraft air defense ATS? - right, they’ll start a full-scale operation. They only needed that. Recently, however, they fly there a little, but nonetheless.
          4.) I would not compare the degree of preparedness for the calculations of Syria and Ukraine. In Syria, for many years there has been a real war with adversaries with modern weapons systems. The use of air defense in this war is the rule, and not an exception to it. Oh yes, how could he forget it - the strongest Ukrainian army in Europe which, with fights, has held back all anti-European Russian aggression for a year.
          But seriously: how often the Ukrainians used air defense and how often the Syrians. Here is the answer to questions of professionalism.
          5.) Concerning namaz and Shell. That time, perhaps, did not go far, but then why did the Syrian officer who was trying to save the car die? If they are so religious, then they would hardly have prayed in a crowd in the cockpit. The version is interesting, but unproven. Moreover, even in the VO there was enough material to disassemble this incident.
        3. +3
          27 September 2018 18: 54
          Quote: Bongo

          I have a question for you as a moderator, why the opportunity to insert active links has disappeared?

          And I have an additional question - why does the bell not work? By this, the site deprived us of the opportunity to conduct a dialogue.
          In short, "reforms" on the site, as in the state, only worsen the state of affairs.
      2. -1
        27 September 2018 07: 51
        Quote: domokl
        Shoigu said that the complexes were ready for delivery to Syria already in 2013. And where could they disappear during this time? Stand on conservation.
        So where will it take clear ...

        They promised to utilize these complexes:
        A decision was made according to which the C-300 systems ordered by Syria would not be transferred to the customer. They will be disposed of soon.

        https://topwar.ru/56232-siriyskie-zrk-s-300-budut-utilizirovany.html

        But in principle there is a budget version of the S-300 air defense system:

      3. +2
        27 September 2018 08: 35
        Quote: domokl
        So where will it take clear ...

        In addition, we are replacing C-300 with C-400 - we need to do the same somewhere.
        1. +5
          27 September 2018 08: 47
          Quote: Boris55
          In addition, we are replacing C-300 with C-400 - we need to do the same somewhere.

          Do you know which air defense systems are the basis of our air defense and how old are they? It has been repeatedly written on the BO, but you don’t read it request .
    2. 0
      27 September 2018 07: 21
      bongo-in warehouses in some regions there are at least a couple of canned shelves. so their presence is not a problem.
      1. +6
        27 September 2018 07: 22
        Quote: ANCIENT
        in some warehouses in some regions there are at least a couple of regiments preserved. So their presence is not a problem.

        Are you telling me this? Do you want to chat in a personal, what, where and in what condition "is in warehouses"?
        1. +6
          27 September 2018 08: 20
          Quote: Bongo

          Are you telling me this? Do you want to chat in a personal, what, where and in what condition "is in warehouses"?

          By the way, in Iran in 2016, they sold 4 of the C-300 division for 3 $ billion if I am not mistaken?
          1. +2
            27 September 2018 08: 37
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            I'm not wrong?

            Already six.
          2. +3
            27 September 2018 08: 46
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            By the way, in Iran in 2016, they sold 4 of the C-300 division for 3 $ billion if I am not mistaken?

            Here is a publication on Iranian air defense:
            https://topwar.ru/115984-pvo-islamskoy-respubliki-iran-chast-2.html
          3. +3
            27 September 2018 08: 49
            Free access refers to only 4 PMU2 divisions; contract value 1 billion
  2. +3
    27 September 2018 06: 03
    One thing is not clear to me. Has anyone thought about what we will do if Israel inflicts a massive blow on Syrian air defense, which will include the S-300 and destroy it completely? I think no one has any doubt that no matter how effective an air defense and missile defense system was built, it can always be destroyed simply by crushing the number of attack means. Israel obviously has the opportunity to push through Syria’s air defense, they simply drop missiles, drones and guided bombs without even entering the Syrian air defense zone with manned aircraft. What will we do in this case? Let's start by ourselves or using the Syrians to bomb the territory of Israel? Strike Israeli airfields or express concern?
    1. +7
      27 September 2018 06: 40
      Quote: bystander
      Has anyone thought about what we will do if Israel delivers a massive attack on Syria’s air defenses which will include C-300 and destroy it completely?

      Why do we have to fight with Israel? It is enough to stop pushing on Iran. Today, the Israelis are bombing Syria because of the supply of weapons to Hezbolé from Iran. Right? And they do not hit the Syrian troops, namely, Hezbol. For Israel, this is critical. And here they are most likely right.
      Yes, and Israelis do not want to incite war. Unlike the Arabs, they can lose their own statehood ...
      1. +3
        27 September 2018 06: 48
        Firstly, I doubt that someone is crushing Iran, and secondly, I didn’t ask about this a bit. What will we do if Israel destroys Syrian air defense along with the delivered S-300s? Concern to express again and talk about the “knife in the back”? Or will we fight?
        1. +6
          27 September 2018 06: 57
          I believe that the suppression of defense defense systems on foreign territory is an act of aggression and the preparation or actual declaration of war. Is it necessary for Israel?
          I already once explained to my Israeli colleagues, who were bristling their feathers with their invincibility, on my fingers: Israel is a rather small country with a very small population. And if you remove the restraining leash, they will simply be trampled underfoot by the surrounding "friendly" peoples, and Iran will be among the first here. And it is quite possible that Trump will not even have time to blather on this matter. Yes, the Russian Federation is not the USSR, but the Yom Kippur War did not last as long as WWII.
          1. +9
            27 September 2018 07: 25
            Quote: inkass_98
            I believe that the suppression of defense defense systems on foreign territory is an act of aggression and the preparation or actual declaration of war. Is it necessary for Israel?

            Yuri, a peace treaty between the SAR and Israel has not been concluded, and in fact they are still in a state of war.
            1. +2
              27 September 2018 09: 52
              Quote: Bongo
              Yuri, a peace treaty between the SAR and Israel has not been concluded, and in fact they are still in a state of war.

              with Japan, the same is not concluded, so what? are we at war with them? belay
              1. 0
                27 September 2018 16: 56
                Here is Danila well done, he answered them correctly. And then they got already useless memories of the contract.
          2. +6
            27 September 2018 09: 26
            And everything that Israel did before, bombing the territory of Syria and destroying air defense systems was an act of friendship?
          3. -5
            27 September 2018 09: 58
            Quote: inkass_98
            explained on the fingers
            But he himself did not understand anything, neither on the fingers nor on the Nepalese. Already, how quickly did you incite Arabs to the state of Israel and helped and fought on your own, and everything is not a horse feed. And today, the Arabs love you very much. Well, right up to the downing of your plane, and you brushed off further. No pride left.
      2. -2
        27 September 2018 07: 17
        Enough to stop crushing Iran

        Not ... it will be enough to excommunicate your Russian "handshake" Jews from the state nipple and inquire about the "purity" of their (and other Jews, those who type "businessmen" in Russia) capital. wink
        1. +4
          27 September 2018 07: 45
          And by the way, when the Turks shot down the plane, Rospotrebnadzor quickly "found pests" in Turkish tomatoes, and now, for some reason, products from Jewish kibbutzim went to the Russian market and continues to go. I wonder why? winked
      3. +1
        27 September 2018 11: 33
        ... yeah, and they will come running to us .. -but there, however, everyone has dual citizenship ..
      4. -1
        27 September 2018 19: 08
        Quote: domokl
        the reason for the supply of weapons to Hezbola from Iran. Correctly? And they’re not hitting the Syrian forces, but namely Hezbolah. For Israel, this is critical. And here they are most likely right.

        And what are they right about? Iran is at war with Israel? How many Jews were killed by the Iranians? And how many Iranians were killed by Jews?
        Quote: domokl
        And the Israelis really do not want to make war

        You are mistaken. It is Israel the instigator of wars and conflicts in BV.
    2. KCA
      0
      27 September 2018 06: 54
      But will Israel go to the losses that will undoubtedly be? How many pilots and planes is Israel ready to lose when destroying Syrian air defense, taking into account the guidance of all Syrian air defense systems by Russian S-400?
      1. 0
        27 September 2018 08: 40
        Quote: KCA
        But will Israel go to the losses that will undoubtedly be? How many pilots and planes is Israel ready to lose when destroying Syrian air defense, taking into account the guidance of all Syrian air defense systems by Russian S-400?

        If the air defense is multi-echeloned, a head-on attack is sheer madness (from Israel). While "Buki", "Torah", "Pantsir" will deal with missiles, the S-300 may well destroy aircraft even on the territory of Israel (or Lebanon), and almost all the country's air forces will have to be involved. It's another matter if hand-held "barmaley" is equipped for these purposes, like we have nothing to do with the S-300 destroyed.
        1. mvg
          0
          27 September 2018 20: 49
          While "Buki", "Torah", "Armor" will deal with missiles

          Something is not very successful "understand". So far, rather the opposite. Almost 100% of suppressed targets. The S-300 will be demolished, especially the "export" version.
      2. +3
        27 September 2018 09: 25
        It is about the “losses that will undoubtedly be” that I have doubts about, at least the sensitive losses. In order to inflict such losses, air defense is needed, which includes not only the S-300, but air defense aircraft, Avaxa, electronic warfare and anti-missile defense systems, covering all this from high-precision weapons. But the most important thing is the determination to strike at the airfields and electronic intelligence systems of Israel, command posts, etc. Since sitting on the defensive to win and avoid serious losses is impossible.
      3. +1
        27 September 2018 10: 01
        You can treat the Jews as you like, but they know how to count well. You represent 1) the cost of this step (the amount of losses in technology and finance) + 2) the consequences of this step. Point operations are one thing, full-scale war is another. How will the rest of the Arab world react to this? What a cool excuse for a weighty response. You can, of course, fantasize, from a series of "what will happen if?", But in reality, such a massive Israeli strike aimed at the complete destruction of Syrian air defenses will never happen.

        In response, they will receive full-scale military action by the SAR, the Lebanese "party of Allah", the IRGC, Iraqi and Pakistani Shiites, Hazaras (Afghan pro-Assad Shiites) and the rabbi knows who else in return. And this is immediately orders of manpower, calculated in six-digit numbers + equipment. And the Palestinians will use a spiritual pretext to divert forces from their front.

        Israel is not ready for a full-scale war, mobilization, transfer of the economy to military tracks, etc. - too small territory that does not allow making mistakes + no answer to questions Why? and for what? why sacrifice a relatively peaceful life inside the country? - for this, the Jews themselves will not say thanks to their government.

        On one side of the scale there is an increased threat of air defense (defensive weapons), on the other - in a bad situation, a threat to statehood. Incomparably and incommensurably.

        Israel as a state, almost a champion: in its short history, it has too often been on the edge of the abyss (1948, 1973), the bottom of which is the destruction of Israel as a state entity and the genocide of the Jewish people.
        1. -2
          27 September 2018 10: 37
          It's right. I recently talked with a Jew, only that "from there", so he says the same, like that the Jews in Israel are no longer as passionate as they were in the 60-70s, many became lazy, spread around the world, to convenient places, and their place was taken by "type Jews" from Hohland and other countries - frank opportunists who do not need any war. Many there are unhappy with the BBC, saying that he has played too much in Syria.
        2. +4
          27 September 2018 13: 22
          Israel has been bombing its Arab neighbors for a very long time, invading from territory, as it was in Lebanon, but no one starts a war against it. Moreover, if he destroys the air defense of Syria, then I am sure that half of the so-called Arab world will support him. At a minimum, he will be supported by the Saudis, the UAE, Jordan and others like them, as well as Turkey. Who then will fight against Israel? Egypt? You yourself believe that. Nobody will fight with Israel over the destroyed Syrian air defense in the Arab world.
          1. +2
            27 September 2018 13: 33
            Well, Egypt ... Hardly.

            1. 0
              27 September 2018 23: 04
              Quote: Shahno
              Egypt ... Hardly.

              Who knows, who knows ... Anything can happen. laughing
    3. 0
      27 September 2018 07: 06
      Quote: bystander
      Let's start by ourselves or using the Syrians to bomb the territory of Israel? Strike Israeli airfields or express concern?

      Unfortunately, such a need on the part of Russia is not excluded.

      And this, in turn, politically means that proxy war of "God's chosen" Zionists from around the world - and most importantly from Washington - on the BV against the "goy" states automatically expands into the territory of Israel itself.

      Israel is a hostage of the world's supposedly "chosen by God" Zionists of the US Federal Reserve System's private ownership spill. These financiers unleashed WWII, sacrificing for their own profits several million Jews in Europe itself - as they say, they cut the "dry knots" in the Zionist movement.
      They will sacrifice - for the sake of their world domination in TMV - both by Israel itself and by the USA! Those who doubt it are naive.

      In addition, it should be borne in mind that all world wars naturally spread in the world according to the network principle from the transition of a local proxy war to a full-scale world war in the form, like the construction and collapse of a financial pyramid. Only its top is saved.

      And this is well understood in Israel itself. (True, not everyone understands.) And that is why the Israeli envoys rushed to Washington shortly after their GENERAL provocation in SAR was shot down Il-20. The Israelis arrived not just for CONSULTATION, but also for the American "roof" of Israel from the PENTAGON!
      1. 0
        27 September 2018 11: 47
        Tanusha ty ochim right!
  3. +3
    27 September 2018 06: 41
    Probably worth translating. For F-35, our complex may not pose such a threat as we would like. But for F-15 and 16 - quite.


    then you can not read the reflections of "strategists-analysts" in the article. The S-300 copes well and poses a threat to all aircraft, both ordinary oldies of the Cold War and all those made using stealth technology.
    1. +1
      27 September 2018 07: 00
      I agree, half measures will not work here, especially in technical terms.
  4. +2
    27 September 2018 07: 05
    The only thing that really annoys in this situation is the fanatical faith of the Syrians. Belief in Allah. Remember the sensational story with the destruction of the "Shell"? Look at the time of the destruction of the installation and compare with the time of prayer ... It would not work out with the new complex as well.
    .... I remember, back in school, our military instructor, Vladimir Mitrofanovich, the kingdom of heaven, told me at an NVP lesson about the crossing of the Suez Canal, or the Nile, I don’t remember, the Egyptian army ... Having reached the middle of the water barrier, the crews began to pray , the time of prayer has come .. Naturally, they suffered losses .. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the retelling, since then a lot of time has passed ... But something like that ..
    1. +8
      27 September 2018 10: 34
      Quote: parusnik
      Having reached the middle of the water barrier, the crews began to pray, it was time for prayer ..

      This is nonsense! Ever since the time of the Prophet, a faithful person in a war or on a campaign has the right not to observe namaz and to eat haraam food.
  5. +3
    27 September 2018 07: 45
    Painfully cunningly wise author; here you and ours and yours, and it would not be better for someone to remind the events of 1983, when fans of bombing sovereign countries with impunity were given a very "warm welcome" in Syria, and the article was so "mixed" that one wonders ... It seems that the author is more concerned about the fate of the Western coalition and Israel, and not about concern for the Syrian people !!! We read such cautious and cautious statements almost every day, and what ...? S-300 to Syria and point, as in a joke: "... the doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue ...", and let those who "itch" to bomb Syria, in short, in the words of the unforgettable Viktor Stepanovich: ". .. let them scratch in another place ... "!
  6. +3
    27 September 2018 07: 46
    If you continue to trust Israel, they will soon bomb Astrakhan.
    Especially if Dm. Medvedev crawls into a chair again.
    1. -3
      27 September 2018 11: 22
      Under Medvedev, oddly enough, the Georgians were immediately discouraged from shooting at our peacekeepers, so that they fled without looking back. But Putin then, perhaps, would have gone the other way.
      1. +1
        27 September 2018 16: 51
        Under Medvedev, oddly enough, the Georgians were immediately discouraged from shooting at our peacekeepers, so that they fled without looking back. But Putin then, perhaps, would have gone the other way.


        And with whom did we leave Libya? Who proudly declared to the whole world: "We are retroactively tearing up all signed contracts for the supply of arms with this country?" - only direct losses were $ 2. And there are even more indirect and lost profits.

        About image losses - generally silent.

        We would have protected Libya - alternative payment systems to the dollar would have appeared several years ago. A lot more could have been - so what to fantasize. As a state, Libya ceased to exist. And this is just one small episode, the estimates of which are "highly controversial."
      2. +1
        27 September 2018 17: 05
        Nikolai, you don’t know the story. On the contrary, until Putin kicked Dimon, he chewed on his snot and delayed the military operation.
  7. -1
    27 September 2018 08: 30
    Quote: A. Staver, R. Skomorokhov
    it is worth talking about the resumption of negotiations on the sale of C-300 to Iran ...

    So already set. Six C-300 complexes have already been deployed in Iran. The personnel was trained, trained and took up combat duty.
  8. +6
    27 September 2018 10: 44
    What difference does it make to Israel which complexes will be supplied to Syria? The Israelis dispose of them - they won't even notice. Strength is not only in the weapon, but in the willful decision to use it. The Russian military have long been whipping boys in the Middle East - the Kremlin can only "beat" with concern.
  9. +1
    27 September 2018 10: 57
    What namaz? The complexes will be equipped with Russian officers, according to Shoigu.
    1. +2
      27 September 2018 16: 54
      You can reference this statement. I could not find anything like it on my own. If you are looking badly - correct me.
  10. Say
    +1
    27 September 2018 11: 05
    We have already seen how the Israeli Air Force is shooting down the SAR air defense systems.
    The only indicator of real affairs will be the cessation of flights of enemy aircraft over the territory of the SAR or their downed planes.
    The degree of "determination" to ever heap is just a propaganda pseudo-patriotic starlet for the plebs.
    1. 0
      27 September 2018 16: 56
      We also saw how the Syrian air defense shoot the Israeli Air Force. So do not exaggerate.
  11. +1
    27 September 2018 11: 46
    In fact, we are arming the Syrian army with defensive armaments, capable of controlling the sky, not only of Syria, but a sufficiently large part of the territory of Israel. This is the case if the complexes will be located in the Damascus area. But you can arrange them where the entire territory of the Jewish state will be controlled.

    Wow "defensive weapon" - the ability to shoot down planes in the airspace of another country.
    Tel Aviv does not save its own pilots, but Americans and others like them.

    Come on, the Americans "and those like them" do not need Israel's help.
  12. +1
    27 September 2018 12: 18
    I just don't understand, you don't see what the General Staff of Russia actually did? On the delivery of the C300 from Siriu, they will be equipped with Russian officers, their own foreign system, and integrate 1 air defense system! If they count the already located C400 and C300 and the rest of the complex, Russia will be the host of the Siriskog sky and not only for Israel, but also for their Krishu in the form of NATO. This is what it says to us. In addition to the toga, it was clearly published that in the calculations of the Russian officers, this means that if someone touches the C300, he attacked the Russian army, his consequences will be. For example svehdrzhava can easily destroy the airport in Israel and quickly. In addition to this, NATO also says that if you need it, you will receive it according to the full program. We got you and your "democracy" as well as the rape of independent states. Russia is a super power eater and she always beat it, only a rat in the west is slaughtered every 50-70 years. If the time has come with a new one, they will prove it is necessary to simply lubricate the weapon and fire on our way.
  13. +1
    27 September 2018 13: 01
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Bongo

    Are you telling me this? Do you want to chat in a personal, what, where and in what condition "is in warehouses"?

    By the way, in Iran in 2016, they sold 4 of the C-300 division for 3 $ billion if I am not mistaken?

    "Pavel Andreevich, are you a spy? You see, Yura ... lol wassat tongue
  14. +2
    27 September 2018 13: 54
    Russia will supply Syria with not the newest, but rather effective S-300 air defense systems.

    But what about the "spacers" between the remote control and the seat? How long has the S-200 been in service in Syria, and so far, their calculations have not learned how to use it correctly. In common language, if all the settings were set correctly, the S-200 rocket would be re-aimed at our Il. In articles and discussions, there are often discussions about a large "glowing cow" that has entered the sector. Yes, at least 5 "cows" drive there. If the missiles were so easy to retarget, the sky would still look like a gateway.
  15. 0
    27 September 2018 14: 36
    "its possible consequences" - the consequences are clear, now it is not safe for Russian planes to fly over Syria in twins.
  16. -1
    27 September 2018 16: 04
    It can be confidently said that Iran does not see Moscow as a true and full ally and that there are large Iranian forces in Syria that have powerful striking means, including OTR “skad”, etc., which cannot be designed for anything else, except to strike at Israel. Especially after the terrorists who attacked during the military parade in the Iranian city of Ahvaz, which are associated with the United States and Mossad, do not need to doubt Iran’s intentions, Israel is on the verge of a doomsday! The United States and other countries, allies will certainly help and the Jew will certainly pull out the atomic bomb. The only question is which side will Moscow take? Destruction of Syrian air defense by Israel. C300 will be a signal to Iran to war.
    1. 0
      29 September 2018 05: 08
      Destruction of Syrian air defense by Israel. C300 will be a signal to Iran to war.
      About 100 Shiites brought by Iran to Syria and equipping Hezbollah’s terrorists with weapons still do not give an opportunity to start a war against Israel - the forces are unequal
      Even the destruction of the highest military ranks at the Iranian military bases in Syria, did not give rise to the outbreak of war by Israel ....
  17. +1
    27 September 2018 16: 51
    The problem is not in the S-300 as such, the problem is that this is a turning point in our assessment of Israel's behaviorI. If earlier we tried to restrain the Israeli aggression by persuasion, now this will be done by the S-300. Of course, the S-300 is not a panacea for Israel's aggression, but one should remember the words of Shoigu (by the way to the Minister of Defense of a nuclear power), "to cool the hot heads", "and if need be, then ...".
    In short, the S-300 is a signal to Israel to move towards a balanced and adequate policy.
    By the way, the fact of the transfer of Syria S-300 caused an extremely positive reaction in the Arab world - they probably saw this as the beginning of the process to pacify the Israeli aggressive policy on BV.
    It turns out that the stricter with Israel, the more sympathy in the Arab world, wider - in the Islamic world.
    1. +1
      29 September 2018 04: 58
      By the way, the fact of the transfer of Syria S-300 caused an extremely positive reaction in the Arab world - they probably saw this as the beginning of the process to pacify the Israeli aggressive policy on BV.
      Why write without understanding the essence of what is happening in the Middle East.
      Arab countries hate Iran and Assad, for them Israel is an ally.
  18. mko
    0
    27 September 2018 20: 53
    In 2005, Russia forgave the total debt of only two Arab countries in the amount of $ 23,5 billion - (almost 1,7 trillion rubles)
    (Syria-13bn. and Iraq-$ 10,5 billion)
    this is almost 18% of the Russian budget for 2018.
    Cool forgiveness!
    I would like to hear about something material from the Arabs - moral satisfaction (dulea USA), you can’t spread it on bread
    USSR ruined friendship with Arabs-Iranians, the same threatens Russia
    and Israel is not worth a penny
  19. 0
    27 September 2018 21: 34
    Well, as small children)) Still not tired of discussing such a thing? What will prevent, for example, the United States, literally tomorrow, from putting Petriots at its bases in the SAR? Well, really, who? Whom is all this pathos designed for? .. Muscle-playing .. Until the first losses. Then sorrow .. the iron curtain .. In general, the sheer benefit for the government and no more. No one in power is going to fight the west! It's just a business and nothing personal! It is much easier to rip off your population when you don’t even need to convince them that there are enemies around! They themselves will give everything.
  20. +3
    27 September 2018 22: 17
    Dear authors, namaz is performed orthodox 5 times a day. The schedule is floating, depending on the sunrise and sunset.
    The last prayer is done before the sun sets.
    After the last call, only a martyr is allowed to pray, for this is his last prayer.
    In ordinary life, an ordinary Muslim cannot pray and pray after sunset. From the word at all.
    Therefore, your assumption that the Shell was lost due to the prayer is nonsense from the Pepsi generation.
    Have you even studied the reference on Islam before broadcasting such analytics?
  21. 0
    28 September 2018 17: 44
    Problems begin with the SAR and the Russian military, as a lot of noise raised the shoig with a video clip and Putin was silent.
  22. 0
    29 September 2018 04: 52
    And here lies the answer to the actions of the Israelis. They simply fulfill the order of their patrons.
    Nonsense, Israel opposed the countries of Europe and the United States when an agreement was signed between Iran and the leading countries of the world.
    This treaty paved the way for Iran to nuclear weapons, which even set the clock in Tehran - the year Israel will be destroyed. Therefore, the bringing to Syria of tens of thousands of Shiites from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Iran, the construction of military bases in Syria and the transfer of weapons to Hezbollah terrorists worries Israel.
    He repeatedly destroyed warehouses with Iranian weapons, so Iran built another military base near the base of Russia, hoping for its S-400.
    Israel studied the S-300 at a Greek military base and this installation is not alarming for Israeli military aircraft, but the possibility of a Syrian S-300 strike on civilian aircraft (the Israeli airport is viewed by the S-300 system) causes Israel’s displeasure.
    According to the Israeli defense minister, he does not mind installing the S-300 for Syria, but if they open fire on Israeli aircraft, the S-300 will be destroyed.
    Israel has no choice, the organization of Shiite military units in Syria, their training and equipping their Hezbollah with weapons are aimed at destroying Israel: Israel will continue to destroy military bases and warehouses.
    It is doubtful that Russia would guard Iranian military bases and bring down Israeli aircraft, knowing from history that the Soviets tried to fight with Israel .... as Russia's military correspondent wrote:
    "Until now, few in our country know that one of the main reasons for the perestroika was the defeat that Israeli aviation carried out on the Syrian air defense system in the Lebanese Bekaa valley on June 9-10, 1982.
    The system was, of course, the Soviet one hundred percent, and the newest at that time.

    It was impossible to attribute the catastrophe to the usual incapacity of the Arabs, and Soviet instructors were sitting next to the Syrians in the booths of the destroyed air defense systems.
    It’s just that the enemy fought in a new way, and we fought in the old way. "
    Alexander Khramchikhin. Military construction in Russia. The Banner 2005, No.12
  23. 0
    29 September 2018 20: 58
    I will probably write not quite in the subject. And why these complexes were not delivered before the tragedy with IL 20. Question to the President. WHY THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE DIED, I demand an answer.
  24. 0
    2 October 2018 14: 05
    What is this article about? Are we scaring them? Disinformation? Reassuring citizens? Drain?
    It is clear that they are reading, but publish something for the Russians, not boring.