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Belarus-2018. Crisis that is not talked about

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In our country, they write a lot and interestingly about the beautiful country of Ukraine, unfortunately, much less is written about the country of Belarus and is not so interesting at all. But from a political point of view, oddly enough, Belarus is much more relevant today than the same Ukraine. As a matter of fact, in Ukraine everything has already happened and happened: it exploded. And the processes there are already by inertia. Well, call me new, interesting political events in this very country over the past year. Two years?..

But Belarus, undeservedly overlooked by the Russian media, has recently been generating a lot of interesting information that few people have noticed, however. In short, the freezing period is over - the country finally went hawking. For example, such a seemingly insignificant news: in the Republic of Belarus since last year bridges began to fail one after another (still of Soviet construction). As you know, one of the sources of income for the official Minsk is transit. An analogue of the Russian "Plato" was introduced there much earlier. This is only a beautiful legend that goes about “socialist Belarus”, in fact, everything has been there for a long time “for a coin”.

And suddenly it turned out that the very transport infrastructure is not forever, and even, rather, vice versa. By the way, the Soviet power is scolded in Belarusian newspapers for bad bridges, scolded. Apparently, when the Soviet Union had to build forever. And just for an independent Belarus, this very failure of bridges became a complete and absolute surprise. And in Russia, they practically did not write about it, while the heroic Belarusian sappers built a pontoon bridge (last year), and the whole of Belarus actively commented on it. Well, you say, "bridges", so what? Is this a disaster? End of the world?

No, of course, but when the country is small, not rich, transit is very important, and many bridges of the same age (created in 70-e / 80-e) according to standard designs, this is, you know, a sign of trouble. All the 25 years of his reign, Mr. Lukashenko, actively “used them,” earning a “denyuzhku” from this, but did not want to invest in their reconstruction from the word at all. Sailed. Simultaneous repair / restoration, as we understand, requires a lot of money. Independence, speak?

Of the five emergency bridges, repairs to three — across Pripyat, Western Dvina and Sozh — will be completed by 2020. The fate of the bridges in Bobruisk will be decided by local authorities

"The problem is global." The third bridge broke in a month

Headlines of Belarusian newspapers were full of ...

That is, for Lukashenko this spring the topic of bridges became the first serious shock. He thought that the Soviet reinforced concrete bridges would stand forever ... And they (suddenly!) Began to pour one after another. The reason is clear: they were built long ago and were calculated on a completely different "traffic." And all these years, Alexander G. “earned” them. But he did not invest money in the repair / reconstruction. And suddenly it was over. The tale is over. As we all understand, the construction of a new bridge instead of a worn out one is long, difficult and, most importantly, very expensive. So expensive that even European bankers began to offer their "help". But you see, the bridge is not a tractor factory, and certainly not a nuclear power plant.

Much easier. But even supporting the transport infrastructure of an “independent” Belarus is difficult to achieve. The results of the “Chinese modernization” were no less a shock for Lukashenko and the Belarusian leadership as a whole. What is the "Chinese modernization"? Russian journalists are not working, not a damn thing is working, all the political prospects of Mr. Poroshenko are painted. There was such a “megaproject” in Belarus - to modernize the industry “for Chinese money”. It is clear to everyone that evil and greedy "Russo oligarho" live to the east of the Belarusian border and cannot be trusted in any way, but good and honest Chinese will be happy to help the fraternal Belarusian people.

By the way, about the birds. At the time, the USSR very seriously helped in the modernization and industrialization total Of china. And, as we understand, the Chinese didn’t have much money (as well as the Union, by the way). But it helped. But the “superpower China” could not or did not want to reverse the procedure for small Belarus. Or did it very, very crooked. That is, China "allocated credit"! Credit, Carl. Lukashenka simply apologized to the Celestial, and received a loan. But not just a loan ... but a related commodity loan. In fact, the Chinese put their equipment on credit (not the highest quality and not the most modern!) And mounted it with their own forces. Nobody allocated real money: why? But to pay for the loan will have to live money, but not white. rubles. Beautiful, yes?

The Belarusian economy did not receive any special exhaust from this “Chinese money”. The total amount of Chinese loans issued to Belarus over the past decade amounted to about 15 billion dollars. How skillfully the Chinese trade: they sell goods, they load their people with work, and they have respect from the Belarusians. In response to tens of billions of "living" money, we have nothing but threats to "go to the West." Maybe something needs to be "corrected in the conservatory"?

There was no “breakthrough” as a result of Chinese “investments” in Belarus, the country did not reach a new level, breakthrough technologies did not appear, but the level of debt burden has increased dramatically. And that's it! Suddenly it turned out that the Chinese do not intend to “invest” more in Belarus. “Lyabov” suddenly ended, further cooperation for the Belarusian side will consist in the payment of those very heavy loans. And yes, the products of the “modernized” Belarusian enterprises are not needed by the Chinese for nothing. They need real money - dollars, of course.

And this “Batka” understood all this quite recently, that he is not needed for any Chinese, and they do not intend to help him. The whole “loud-boiling” friendship with the great China turned out to be for Minsk only a propaganda fake. The Belarusian leadership was divorced as children, promising “cooperation” and issuing an express loan to the stale junk. Lukashenko also hoped to regularly dangle in Beijing, sing sweet songs about friendship and get free billions ... Not a ride. You will not believe Lukashenko finally understood this completely recently. And this, too, was a shock for the entire Belarusian leadership.

So their whole “Chinese strategy” is just a collection of propaganda tinsel. Maybe I don’t understand something, but in my unenlightened opinion, to get a commodity credit for 15 "Lard greens" it was not necessary to bow to the belt in China. Further more. The already famous trip to Orsha (famous in the Republic of Belarus) was another shock for Lukashenka: Orsha was a pilot project, there they hoped to roll in a new strategy of “industrialization”. Serious money was invested in the region with the largest performances of “parasites” ... Lukashenko arrived and saw only completely rotten and collapsed Soviet factories. And it really "zakolbasilo." He really lost his temper.

In order to gain popularity, Lukashenka loves in public to shout at negligent subordinates (bad boyars!), It has always been so, but this time the indignation was sincere, the president simply “broke off”. That is, today, despite all the infusions from the state, the Soviet giants and middle peasants of the Belarusian industry have decayed safely, being at the same time in good state ownership. And just in Orsha (the NATO base under which the Belarusian allies like to scare us so much) Lukashenko suddenly realized that this is the end. That all the means and opportunities are completely exhausted, and in front only a deaf dead end and nothing more. That there will be no "new industrialization".

And so on, on trifles (the Russian media do not work, they don’t catch mice!), - there is a drought in Belarus this year! Well, who knows about this? Who! And in Belarus, drought! And there will be no harvest ... And agriculture and its products mean so much for this not the most advanced and not the richest country. I am not joking: the gods were angry with Alexander Grigoryevich (or did he angered them?), Well, what else would explain such a set of “surprises”: bridges fall apart, the crop dries up, plants rot, loans do not give ...

And besides, in the conditions of an exacerbation of the economic crisis, a struggle at the top and a witch hunt began: the KGB first “pressed” the customs officers (!), Then the officials, including those close to Lukashenko (!), Then launched the “doctors' case”. Yes, while we were watching the ups and downs of the Skripale family, more gloomy events took place in Belarus. Spring / summer - there are arrests in Belarus. First, they took "corrupt officials", then doctors ... Also corrupt. Here we have heard a lot about the peripeties of Kiev politics, but for some reason, the information about the situation in Minsk is given as something about the situation in Timbuktu ...

But an interesting analogy suggests itself: the decline of Stalin’s rule (the most sunset!) Is a matter of “pest doctors”, the decline of Lukashenka’s rule is a matter of “corrupt doctors”. All "on the training manual." By the way, the reaction of the Belarusians themselves to these mass arrests (by the standards of a modern European country is massive) “pleases”, and the reaction is approximately as follows: a) so you should, ugly corrupt officials! b) Valiant organs, arrest all these scoundrels, I love you very much! In short, 53-th year in full growth.

That is, the political processes in Belarus, of course, are taking place, but with the Russian realities, they practically do not correlate in any way. This is a completely different country, with very different problems. And if for us 90 is already far away историяthen for modern Belarusians the problems of 90-x / questions of 90-x are still relevant. The country is banal (and with the consent of its inhabitants!) Stuck in the past. And suddenly, all the problems and sores of the archaic (both politically and economically) countries sharply worsened. And it happened here and now. And the format of “political changes” in the form of the “doctors' case” indicates that modern Belarus is much closer almost to Russia-1953 than to Russia-2018.

But the problems of the Republic of Belarus are not limited to the above: Belarusians have historically earned a lot of money on smuggling into Russia, this took place before any sanctions, but at the end of the “tenths” and then step by step the “holes in the fence” are closed, which causes a very emotional reaction of the official Minsk where the proceeds from smuggling were considered almost as official treasury income, and there was such an unexpected nuisance. And just 2017-th was in many ways the decisive year in the matter of restoring the border in the western direction.

Once again: smuggling and revenues from it were for a “socially just”, “sister city” state not a “small addition to the diet”, but a rather serious item of income, and therefore the reaction to the border closure was extremely painful. A whole “branch of the economy” is destroyed because. That is (thank God!) Gradually Belarus is transferred to the status of a completely foreign state. And the flights from the Republic of Belarus (after the introduction of the legendary one-sided “visa-free” for 80-ti “civilized” countries) were redirected to international terminals in Russia, and the general border policy of Russia towards Minsk has changed significantly. “Trust” (not once deceived) ended, constant checks began ... And the news of the ban on the supply of “jelly”, meat products from Blue-eyed became a constant background of informational tapes. And for the archaic economy of the Republic of Belarus is one of the few sources of currency. But de facto “sly” prohibits. The reason is not so much economic as geopolitical - we are not obliged to “sponsor” an unfriendly regime. And they quite honestly and officially recommended to Belarusians to look for “other sales markets” for their “milk”.

That is, it is necessary to evaluate the professionalism of growing up. the authorities: no-one had organized loud scandals with the “best and last ally”, they simply began to “clean up behind the cordon”. For Belarus, which over the years of “independence” has become accustomed to openly parasitizing on Russia, this approach is absolutely fatal: Belarusians have no “own”, independent economy, and generally they have nowhere to go (and Mr. Medvedev has already indicated them) . That is, the situation for them, step by step, worsened, worsened, and then a de facto “ideal storm” occurred. This is what is happening now.

Well, or "perfect crash." And the IMF does not give the promised loan, Moscow also does not. The reason is the lack of promised reforms. In the evening of reform, in the morning money. And Lukashenka cannot carry out reforms without fearing to bring down the entire system of sole control over the country. But the “control system” is also slowly falling apart - the bickering of the starving elites begins, and Lukashenko can no longer “feed” them. Nothing. Even guest workers, who supplied billions of the necessary currency to the Republic of Belarus, suddenly “deteriorated”: the type of labor migration from Belarus changed - people began to move to permanent residence abroad more and more. Families move. And in general, they began to spend the money earned by hard work at the place of work ... that is, not in Belarus.

I agree, individually, all these problems are just annoying troubles present in the life of any state, but all at the same time and at the same time ... And then there's the “tax maneuver” for the Russian oil industry, breaking another hole in the Belarusian budget. And this is also here and now too. All the years of independence, Belarusians have lived at the expense of cheap Russian oil and do not imagine any other life. That is, up to a certain point, all this (Belarusian “pseudo-economy”) seemed to “work”, and then (that is, now) suddenly fell down.

This explains the frequent meetings of Lukashenko and Putin and the more harsh statements of A.G. Lukashenka to Russia. This explains the "wave of repression" and the resignation of the government. In complete despair, Lukashenko presses all the buttons, presses on all the pedals and pulls all the levers, trying to save what cannot be saved by definition. And yes, "missing for a week" and happily found in Kiev restaurant Petro Poroshenko is not politics, but just the arrests of leaders in Minsk - it is the most.

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  1. Senior manager
    Senior manager 11 September 2018 05: 31
    +49
    Hmmm, managing the state is a great job. Lukashenka was spoiled, and he believed in his political and economic "genius", the freebie seems to be over. It's time for Belarus to enter Russia, the two Germany united and nothing terrible happened. In my opinion, this is the best option, otherwise we will have one more edge.
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 11 September 2018 05: 38
      0
      only now Germany were approximately equal in level, and Belarus would require money many times more than the Crimea
      1. Victor jnnjdfy
        Victor jnnjdfy 11 September 2018 06: 41
        +16
        What is there in Belarus that is not in Russia? Does Russia really need to invest in it?
        Article on the case. The regime of Lukashenko has begun (in Orsha) agony. The author did not mention that Belarusians from Belarus are now scattering in different directions. They prefer Poland, since the Russian ruble sank sharply against the dollar, and in Poland it is higher than the salary.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 06: 52
          +5
          Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
          The author did not mention that Belarusians from Belarus are now scattering in different directions.

          Can I have numbers, especially to flee to Poland? As far as I know, no one is running anywhere. At the construction sites and markets of Russia, there were no Belarusians, and no. There are even Serbs, but I haven’t seen Belarusians.
          1. Victor jnnjdfy
            Victor jnnjdfy 11 September 2018 07: 08
            +16
            I see the situation in Belarus when I am there. Everywhere there are advertisements "Work in Poland" and design "Karta polaka". To get a card, you just need to be a quarter Pole. Then in Poland they already receive "Karta pobytu". It's like a residence permit. And then Polish citizenship - and onward to work in England or Germany. A quarter of Poles in Poland have more prospects than Belarusians without Polish admixture. Ukrainians in Poland graze in herds. True, the Poles no longer really want to hire Ukrainians.
            Bugut. And they are very fleeing. Work is discussed everywhere in Poland. You just don’t know.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 07: 16
              +3
              Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
              You just don’t know.

              Okay, I don't know. Can you "enlighten" me, and with numbers?
              P.S. I have several acquaintances of the same left for the hill, some to Italy, some to Canada. Even one left for France. Is this the same flight?
            2. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 11 September 2018 07: 46
              +10
              I apologize for the remark, there is a good term - "quarteron". "Quarter-Pole" is somewhat creepy, don't you agree?
              1. Victor jnnjdfy
                Victor jnnjdfy 11 September 2018 07: 50
                +7
                Polish Poles (pans) sometimes call the citizens of the Republic of Belarus with a card. Pans .... they are "pans".
                I agree with you.
                1. Olezhek
                  11 September 2018 08: 05
                  +1
                  Polish Poles (pans) sometimes call citizens of the Republic of Belarus with a map.


                  But in general, they are very fond of Belarusians.
                  How could it be otherwise?
                  1. Nasrat
                    Nasrat 11 September 2018 08: 48
                    +13
                    The author did not mention such problems that are gaining momentum, this is from fresh, from last week:
                    "Hto not jumping, that maskal, gay." Belarus national team fan against San Marino

                    Video here:
                    https://www.instagram.com/p/BnelJT2jLx9/
                    1. mr.fafes
                      mr.fafes 11 September 2018 22: 53
                      +1
                      NasRat (Evlampy Spiridonovich)
                      "Hto not jumping, that maskal, gay." Belarus fan sector in a match against San Marino.
                      1. Dzungar
                        Dzungar 13 September 2018 16: 45
                        +2
                        There were more come-on dill than Belarusians themselves ....
                      2. Hefty literate
                        Hefty literate 14 September 2018 11: 36
                        +3
                        Well, a group of idiots shouted. So what? Are there no such frostbitten ones in Russia? Show how the same people chanted "Koenigsberg" at the match in Kaliningrad. What are the conclusions from this fact?
                      3. mr.fafes
                        mr.fafes 14 October 2018 19: 47
                        0
                        Yes, such scumbags are in Russia.
                        That's just up to that, even Russian scumbags did not fall.
                        If you mind a link attach?
                  2. Victor jnnjdfy
                    Victor jnnjdfy 11 September 2018 09: 06
                    +19
                    Sarcasm? Polish Poles love no one but themselves. Maybe they’re doing it right. And nobody loves them.
                    1. utyutkin
                      utyutkin 14 September 2018 13: 21
                      +1
                      you are from the topic then the storyteller do not move out :))))) where the numbers are how many Belarusians went to Poland :)))
                      I hope you know what they call those who are not able to confirm their tales with real statistics? :)))
                  3. Lex.
                    Lex. 11 September 2018 18: 11
                    0
                    But in general, they are very fond of Belarusians.
                    How could it be otherwise?
                    Poles probably love only Poles, Belarusians with Polish roots can get a map of the Pole and there are many of them. If you take Grodno, there are half the city of Poles and there are Polish villages
                    1. Victor jnnjdfy
                      Victor jnnjdfy 11 September 2018 19: 54
                      +8
                      "I heard the ringing ..." Poles in Poland treat Belarusian citizens with arrogance, which is usual for them (Poles). I speak like an ethnic Pole from the Grodno region.
                      By the way, the Poles practically got rid of the Jews in Poland. After the war, there were even Jewish pogroms. They extinguished the Jews who survived at Auschwitz and returned to their homes (who had successfully plundered the locals). Now Poles in Poland are 97%. Poland for the Poles. And last year I listened to an orchestra from the Polish Gnevino. In Hnevino lives another indigenous people of Poland - kosuba.
                      1. Lex.
                        Lex. 11 September 2018 20: 15
                        -3
                        They extinguished the Jews who survived at Auschwitz and returned to their homes (who had successfully plundered the locals). Now Poles in Poland are 97%. Poland for the Poles. And last year I listened to an orchestra from the Polish Gnevino. Another lives in Gnevino
                        It feels so good
                      2. credo
                        credo 12 September 2018 16: 30
                        +6
                        Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
                        Now Poles in Poland are 97%. Poland for the Poles. And last year I listened to an orchestra from the Polish Gnevino. In Hnevino lives another indigenous people of Poland - kosuba.

                        Are you sure that in Poland it is 97% of ethnic Poles ?. There is an opinion that there are many polished nationalities in both the east and west of the country and they remember their roots.
                        As for the Jews, then yes you are right in their destruction on the territory of Poland, the local population took an active part. However, this fate affected not only the Jews but also the German civilian population. This is a black and unpleasant part of history for Poland, which it tries to erase from its "glorious past".
                    2. utyutkin
                      utyutkin 14 September 2018 13: 28
                      +1
                      Poles live in Poland and Belarusians in Belarus. Israelis live in Israel. etc. Of course everywhere there are enough people who were born in the country, studied in it, lived in it all their life, but for some reason they persistently call themselves citizens of another country (or they are called citizens of another country), but they are such a minuscule that you don’t even have to say :)
            3. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 14 September 2018 00: 12
              +1
              Firstly, not everywhere, but only in the border area of ​​Grodno and Brest.
              There is definitely nothing like that in Minsk. And further, towards the Russian Federation and even more so.
              Indeed, many families leave here for permanent residence in the Russian Federation. Including pensioners
              1. utyutkin
                utyutkin 14 September 2018 13: 30
                +2
                I personally spoke with a pensioner (and not one) from Russia who bought an apartment in Minsk and moved here to live. and he is not alone. however there are statistics in the ovir you can see.
            4. morsikoff
              morsikoff 14 September 2018 22: 57
              0
              It would also be interesting to read the numbers and the source link.
              It's just that I hear for the first time that "Bugut. And they run very much. Work in Poland is being discussed everywhere."
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 11 September 2018 07: 54
            +4
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
            The author did not mention that Belarusians from Belarus are now scattering in different directions.

            Can I have numbers, especially to flee to Poland? As far as I know, no one is running anywhere. At the construction sites and markets of Russia, there were no Belarusians, and no. There are even Serbs, but I haven’t seen Belarusians.

            After 2014 (the fall of the ruble) disappeared. My acquaintance, a developer from Moscow (himself a native of Gomel), hired ... instead of escaped fellow countrymen ... North Koreans laughing Pts happy, by the way))
            1. Lex.
              Lex. 11 September 2018 18: 15
              -1
              But this is not an indicator of the Belarusian builders, there are a lot of Russian and Ukrainian builders. What is interesting in Israel, quite a lot of Ukrainian builders also came probably from the western part of it to communicate
            2. Victor jnnjdfy
              Victor jnnjdfy 12 September 2018 19: 44
              +7
              The fellow countrymen of the Gomel resident did not run away, but went to work where they pay more in $. Laughter is a laugh, but in an independent one, everyone counts in dollars, not in rubles or euros.

              About 97%. Before WWII, in the east of present-day Poland, who just did not live: Jews, Germans, Lithuanians, Belarusians, Poleshuk / Poleshchuk, Ukrainians ... At the same time, they spoke their own language. They ganged up at the NDP. Before the war, Belarusians in the Bialystok Voivodeship considered themselves Belarusians, and their descendants under socialist Poland began to consider themselves Poles. Now in Podlasie they do not speak Belarusian. The roots are remembered, but consider themselves Poles.
              As for the Jews, I wrote to a comrade from Israel, and therefore touched only on the Jewish topic. The historical memory of my fellow tribesmen is very selective. They remember only the evil that, in their opinion, was committed by someone against themselves. The Poles prefer not to remember their "heroic deeds" against the Russians, Germans, Jews. You, credo, wrote everything correctly in your commentary.
          3. credo
            credo 12 September 2018 16: 17
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            At the construction sites and markets of Russia, there were no Belarusians, and no. There are even Serbs, but I haven’t seen Belarusians.

            And how does a Russian living in Belarus differ from a Russian living in Russia? Nothing. The same Slavic type, the same Russian speech. On the street in Moscow, you cannot distinguish a citizen of Belarus from a citizen of Russia, unlike citizens of Central Asia. So, if you did not see the badge "Citizen of the Republic of Belarus" on the person you met, this does not mean that they are not in Russia. They exist and there will be even more of them, because the situation in Belarus does not cause optimism.
        2. Olezhek
          11 September 2018 06: 53
          +10
          They prefer Poland, since the Russian ruble has strongly sank to the dollar, and in Poland it is higher than the salary.


          So it is good. Do we need friends for money?
          The answer is obvious. yes
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 07: 07
            +1
            Quote: Olezhek
            Do we need friends for money?

            With such a policy, free friends do not shine for us. We embrace with one hand, we climb into the pocket with the other.
            1. sergo42
              sergo42 11 September 2018 22: 47
              +4
              There are no free friends, and Moscow apparently has neither the money nor the desire to roll around endlessly regular "brothers".
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 September 2018 11: 24
          0
          At least the infrastructure of Belarus will require a lot of money - every year.
        4. Victor N
          Victor N 11 September 2018 12: 23
          +13
          The Russians are still ready to accept Belarus, but more and more often it sounds different: is it worth investing? Doubt became more often. Lukashenko is perceived almost exclusively negatively. Irritation increases in public opinion.
          1. sergo42
            sergo42 11 September 2018 22: 50
            +4
            They also dislike Lukashenko in Belarus itself, especially in the western part. I just talked on this topic with athletes from Brest, their dream is to dump in Poland.
            1. utyutkin
              utyutkin 14 September 2018 13: 44
              -2
              only in the houses his portraits are near the icons :)))) this is if someone did not know :))))) but these athletes are not kept! We would really like to get out of here a long time :)
          2. credo
            credo 12 September 2018 16: 38
            +7
            Quote: Victor N
            The Russians are still ready to accept Belarus, but more often it sounds different: is it worth investing? They began to doubt more often.

            We must not doubt but reunite. Three parts of one big country were ripped apart by crooks, crooks and rogues, and these parts have been rummaging for 27 years as restless, trying to survive individually, but it turns out very badly.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 11 September 2018 07: 51
        +12
        Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
        only now Germany were approximately equal in level, and Belarus would require money many times more than the Crimea

        Germany was far from equal - neither in the economy, nor in the mentality of citizens. Now, after more than a quarter century of reunification, the eastern part of the country is a black, all-consuming hole for the Bundesbudget. With the exception of a few regions, most of the former GDR is subsidized and depressed.
        And Belarus ... well, I don’t know. Not yet, but, according to foreigners, medicine there, for example, is better than Russian. More control, etc.
        1. Olezhek
          11 September 2018 08: 04
          +6
          The eastern part of the country is a black, all-consuming hole for the Bundesbudget. With the exception of a few regions, most of the former GDRs are subsidized and depressed.


          1 Oddly enough - this is the case (despite the huge investments)

          2 In the event of "unification" with the Republic of Belarus, which is why many Belarusians (!) Are so afraid, there would be much more problems.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 11 September 2018 08: 36
          +10
          Good afternoon, fellow countryman. Something better, something worse. But the fact that the topic of Belarus is not discussed in our mass media is not true. It is discussed, and in a negative way. Our mass media do more harm in bilateral relations than A. Lukashenko .
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 11 September 2018 09: 33
            +2
            Evolution is obvious: the prospect of Belarus joining is no longer very pleased. What will follow?
        3. Blackflag88
          Blackflag88 12 September 2018 09: 09
          +5
          What medicine is better than Russian? Warming boiled potatoes? You go to YouTube and see how MAZ collect this tin. Their entire industry is very backward, there are 10 really modern plants, everything else is so dust in the eye. When their peak was in 2000, there were TVs, ruby ​​refrigerators, etc., but we had to go forward but our brothers continued to produce the same thing, and what was the result? Where are all their equipment on the Russian market? Probably the current BELAZ remained, but this is a purely niche technique. It’s time for Lukashenko to choose either we or .... The emperor will not clatter anymore.
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      4. silver169
        silver169 11 September 2018 08: 44
        +7
        Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
        only now Germany were approximately equal in level, and Belarus would require money many times more than the Crimea


        By the level of what are "approximately equal"? Isn't it time for you to start learning history with geography again?)))
      5. lucul
        lucul 11 September 2018 09: 07
        +6
        The article is mostly superficial.
        The main problem in Belarus is now the same - as in the late USSR. 80-85% of all officials and bosses are Jews, for whom the main thing is to fill their pockets - and the interests of the state are not THEIR state (as Yatsenyuk said - "Ukraine is not my historical homeland and I am not going to stay here after the premiership)
        This "brotherhood" is capable of letting go of any good undertakings. Lukashenka is already deciding little in the country - the country is paralyzed by this bureaucratic brotherhood.
        Well, and so - in terms of propaganda (from school), Belarus is completely defeated by Western propaganda.
        1. alexsipin
          alexsipin 14 September 2018 16: 40
          +2
          Quote: lucul
          85% of all officials and bosses are Jews

          You can imagine this difference in IQ - 0.2-0.3% of the population is occupied by 85% of senior positions. Something truth tells me that if that were true, then the standard of living would be like in Israel, and alas, alas.
          1. De laert
            De laert 14 September 2018 23: 51
            -1
            As soon as the word "Jew" appears in the comments, a Jew immediately appears with his comment ... do they put filters? :)
    2. Semen1972
      Semen1972 11 September 2018 17: 41
      -3
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      Hmmm, managing the state is a great job. Spoiled "-------", and he believed in his political and economic "genius", the freebie seems to be over

      Yes ... not like Vladimir Vladimirovich !!!!!
    3. Enemy
      Enemy 12 September 2018 05: 57
      +1
      Yes, we do not need them. And we don’t need such a "ally."
  2. Radrygess
    Radrygess 11 September 2018 05: 35
    +11
    You do not already know what "finger" to suck out. You rivet articles, try to pull some arguments, but each article comes down to one thing - oil.
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 11 September 2018 05: 36
      +8
      Is it painful to realize that you live in a country of a kept woman?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 07: 03
        +14
        Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
        Is it painful to realize that you live in a country of a kept woman?

        What country do we live in? Is it better, and having huge resources of absolutely everything? Two-thirds of the country's population do not go to elections, because they do not trust the authorities. Instead of developing the country, we still play by the rules invented by Western "partners".
        So what should you call our country in this vector of "development"?
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 11 September 2018 07: 48
          +10
          Banana Republic, with hydrocarbons instead of bananas.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 11 September 2018 08: 37
      +5
      Quote: Radrygess
      but each article comes down to one- oil

      all the problems of today's world are oil problems.
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    4. Max otto
      Max otto 11 September 2018 10: 24
      +8
      That's right. Even to the bridge in Bobruisk, the author clung to. The current did not say which one, there are 3 of them, one old, 1 new, 8-10 years since they were built and one was repaired literally 3 years ago, so now it’s like new.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 11 September 2018 19: 34
        +2
        Quote: Max Otto
        Current did not say to which, there are 3 of them

        The one that is double, near the Fandock.
        It is recognized as potentially emergency, because the design is similar to Pripyat
    5. Enemy
      Enemy 12 September 2018 05: 58
      +2
      If not, then go to the square and demand - European countries European prices for oil and gas. There are no restrictions on the purchase of oil on the London Stock Exchange. Weak?
  3. pru-pavel
    pru-pavel 11 September 2018 05: 38
    +10
    Good bridges in the USSR were built for 40 years and did not break. This is you no Chinese garbage thread that will not stand for 15 years
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 11 September 2018 06: 32
      +6
      Quote: pru-pavel
      Good bridges in the USSR were built for 40 years and did not break.

      laughing laughing laughing All five bridges with which problems arose (with a box-like structure of spans) were built ... drumming! ... in the times of the Soviet Union, before the 91 year hi wink
      1. Olezhek
        11 September 2018 06: 57
        +24
        All five bridges with which problems arose (with a box-like structure of spans) were built ... drumming! ... in the times of the Soviet Union, before the 91 year


        Hmm, did not provide the USSR with an "economic base" for non-deposit
        Only on 27 years was enough.
        The USSR did not prepare for the creation of "Belarus" did not prepare properly.
        Niharasho ...
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 11 September 2018 07: 08
          -7
          Quote: Olezhek
          Only on 27 years was enough.

          Olezhka, before speaking on this topic, it would be worth studying the material base, the conclusions of specialists in design, then everything would fall into place and would not have to be malicious wink
          And then the results of the examinations speak about the problems of adhering to the technologies during construction, and you say to us about the lulliness during the maintenance. This, Olezhka, two different things yes
          1. Olezhek
            11 September 2018 07: 10
            +22
            And then the results of the examinations speak about the problems of compliance with technology during construction, and you are telling us about carelessness during maintenance.


            And these problems "on the observance of technologies during construction" became clear 27 years after the collapse of the USSR
            While the bridges did not start to fall - everything was type-top. The country has blossomed.
            When they began to fall - highbrow Xperds established that the USSR was to blame ...
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 11 September 2018 18: 11
              +3
              Quote: Olezhek
              When they began to fall - highbrow Xperds established that the USSR was to blame ...

              But this is already a speech of a displeased schoolboy! yes Once again for the gifted - study the materiel!
              I will briefly explain. The technology was developed at the end of the late USSR as a replacement for expensive metal bridges. The design was based on extremely tight cables of a certain section, poured with concrete. By the way, the Ostankino TV tower was built using the same technology. Those. in cross-section, a box was obtained with over-tensioned cables in concrete instead of reinforcement .. Such a structure is lighter than pure concrete and less expensive than metal. But the examination found out that the pouring of concrete was not of high quality, moisture accumulated in the places of the caverns, which caused corrosion with subsequent destruction ("Hello" to perestroika). As a result, together with the dramatically increased cargo flow and the mass of heavy vehicles to the places of corrosion, there was a rupture of the carrying ropes from subsequent deformation of the structure. For reference - according to the information of the designers, the bridge was designed for road trains with a gross weight of not more than 30 tons. Now the Olshansk trucks - 40 tons, timber trucks - 55-65 tons, crushed stone carriers from quarries - 70-75 tons. Moreover, the latter walked in columns! And believe me (tested on your own skin) while on the bridge, when passing a column of 5-6 such road trains, the bridge loosened with a decent amplitude yes ! These are the heavyweights and "killed" him. While half of the bridge consists of conventional bridge T-beams. They don't care about such weights. But there is no box structure at all - it gave way in all five bridges. If there was only one, then we could talk about poor service. But FIVE !!! This, Olezhka has already been proven, because your fantasies only bring a smile wink And I talked with comrades from research institutes that examined our bridge, and I believe them more than your fantasies
              Quote: Olezhek
              While the bridges did not start to fall - everything was type-top. The country has blossomed.
              When they began to fall - highbrow Xperds established that the USSR was to blame ...
              1. Olezhek
                11 September 2018 19: 37
                +9
                But the examination found out that the pouring of the concrete was not of high quality, in the places of the cover moisture accumulated, which caused corrosion and subsequent destruction


                I am very sorry, but when was the examination carried out?
                After bridges began to crumble?
                Who prevented to do it before? Is this your country or not? Who was supposed to follow the Belarusian bridges? Martians?


                As a result, coupled with a dramatically increased cargo traffic and a mass of heavy vehicles to the places of corrosion, there was a break in the carrying ropes with subsequent deformation of the structure. For reference, according to the information of the designers, the bridge was designed for road trains with a total mass of no more than 30 tons. Now olshansky trucks - 40т., Timber trucks - 55-65т., Carriers of rubble from the quarries - 70-75т. Moreover, the last walked in columns!


                That is, the bridges built during the USSR stood for themselves quite 30-40 years.
                Not bad.
                And only when the traffic flow has increased dramatically and significantly, and the weight of vehicles has become quite beyond-the-way ... but then (and not immediately!) Soviet bridges began to crack (but not fall!).

                But there is no box construction at all - she succumbed to all five bridges. If only one, then we could talk about poor service. But FIVE !!!


                Well, why not? For example - all five typical bridges of the same series were poorly serviced.
                all five bridges were "raped" by overloaded trucks ...
                All five showered at the same time ...

                If bridges were served "well", problems would be noticed. much earlier

                You see, claims to "Soviet bridges" would have had some meaning in 1997
                In 2007? Rather, no longer.
                In 2017-m ???
                Sorry - this is ridiculous!
                1. Rurikovich
                  Rurikovich 11 September 2018 20: 21
                  +4
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  Who bothered to do this before?

                  Oleg, show me a man who will randomly drill a whole outwardly monolith in order to find out if there is corrosion there or not. Such things are revealed by external inspection. And if during the overhaul during the general inspection of cracks in the monolith was not found, this does not mean that the process of destruction is not going on.
                  I admit that both you and us do some things after the roasted rooster pecks. To accuse the state I can only say that the letter of the engineer of this bridge to the Ministry of Transport has been published, where he indicates the unsuccessful construction of this structure and requires expertise. And he turned out to be right. BUT ... see above, about the roasted rooster yes
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  And only when the cargo flow sharply and significantly increased and the weight of the vehicles became absolutely beyond the limit ... only then (and not immediately!) Did the Soviet bridges crack (but not fall!)

                  Yes. Just do not confuse operation with maintenance. I work in a service organization. And she performed her duties in a quality manner, as much as depended on her. Therefore, if the terms of the overhaul were delayed, it was really the state’s problems .. We gave all requests for repairs and examinations at the right time. And then see above about the roasted rooster and the engineer with his warning. So the problem is not maintenance
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  Well, why not? For example - all five typical bridges of the same series were poorly serviced.

                  Quote: Olezhek
                  If the bridges were served "well", the problems would have been noticed much earlier.

                  And now the main thing
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  You see, claims to "Soviet bridges" would have had some meaning in 1997
                  In 2007? Rather, no longer.
                  In 2017-m ???
                  Sorry - this is ridiculous!

                  The question is not what the bridges of construction of the times of the USSR fell in, but the fact that the bridges of the UNSUCCESSFUL DESIGN fell down yes Our bridge is half box and half with concrete T-slabs. So the box-shaped part above the channel cracked, because the river is navigable and with ordinary spans it would not have been possible to organize the necessary fairway for ships. It was in the mid-80s that a kind of "innovative" and more economical under the conditions of perestroika) scheme was chosen. So she could not stand it ... But the parts of the bridge over the floodplain, ordinary, stand like bones ... They are not even touched. Only the cracked span over the river is changed. And this is 200 meters out of the total 895 meters of the bridge. That is the problem. And after this mess with the Pripyat bridge, everyone was examined (see about the fried rooster) and all large bridges, in principle, can handle the load .. Unlike five bridges with a box-shaped scheme.
                  PS In Russia, the same bridge also collapsed at one time, it was replaced with a metal one and the box-shaped circuit was no longer repeated. so, Oleg, the problem is really in the design, not in the maintenance ...
                  1. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 11 September 2018 22: 49
                    -2
                    ! These are the heavyweights and "killed" him.

                    Cause!
                    Oleg, show me a man who will randomly drill a whole outwardly monolith in order to find out if there is corrosion there or not. Such things are revealed by external inspection.

                    Not the desire or lack of normal diagnostic equipment!
                    Just do not confuse operation with maintenance. I work in a service organization. And she performed her duties in a quality manner, as much as depended on her. Therefore, if the terms of the overhaul were delayed, it was really the state’s problems .. We gave all requests for repairs and examinations at the right time. And then see above about the roasted rooster and the engineer with his warning. So the problem is not maintenance

                    But this is the main thing!
                    how much depended on her.

                    were overdue ... overhaul deadlines

                    We gave all requests for repairs and examinations on time

                    And then see above, about the roasted rooster

                    Am I misinterpreting something or pulling it out of context? sad
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 21: 45
                  +5
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  and when was that examination carried out?

                  Egorov - and when was the fire examination of Lame Horse and Winter Cherry carried out? fool No, no thoughts at all? Remember before writing your um ... articles, the old Russian saying about the number of cuts and measures. wink And before accusing a neighbor of flatulence, check your undercover. hi
              2. S_Baykala
                S_Baykala 16 September 2018 09: 48
                0
                Speech of a disgruntled student? .. That is, if:

                according to the designers, the bridge was designed for trains with a total mass of not more than 30 tons. (Your words)
                For about 30 years these figures have not been paid attention to (and it will do so!), the Union is to blame in any way. Well, you have to blame someone. The operating instructions begin to be read only after a breakdown. And now the USSR is to blame, who built bridges about 30 years ago (with money from the WHOLE Union), and these bridges in case of improper use lasted several decades ..... Brilliant, Andrew!
          2. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 11 September 2018 07: 13
            +2
            Quote: Rurikovich
            This, Olezhka, two different things yes

            By the way, if it is interesting, then I will come back from work to tell about bridges that are pouring hi
            1. Olezhek
              11 September 2018 07: 41
              +3
              By the way, if it is interesting, then I will come back from work to tell about bridges that are pouring


              (I say this as a road builder - in five kilometers in a straight line from the city such a problem bridge is being repaired)


              Photos can be laid out ...
              1. Rurikovich
                Rurikovich 11 September 2018 17: 48
                +4
                Quote: Olezhek
                Photos can be laid out ...

                I’ll gladly post them (there’s enough on the phone), but only after the last update of the site I haven’t loaded any photos and have no notifications !!! So I want, but I can’t - thanks to the moderators request
                1. Rurikovich
                  Rurikovich 11 September 2018 17: 50
                  +5
                  But if you really want to, then type "Cracked Bridge over Pripyat", there are enough photos and videos, especially since this is an emergency of republican scale.
      2. alstr
        alstr 11 September 2018 07: 09
        +4
        And what are you attached to the Soviet bridges. Won in Italy, too, a massive pandemic of bridges built in the 60s. There they just collapse right away.
        1. pru-pavel
          pru-pavel 11 September 2018 07: 27
          -8
          Yes, in Italy it’s understandable. There dozens of bridges fall there every day. The account of the collapsed bridges is already tens of thousands.
          1. silver169
            silver169 11 September 2018 09: 07
            +8
            Quote: pru-pavel
            but in Italy it’s understandable. There dozens of bridges fall there every day. The account of the collapsed skeleton is already tens of thousands.


            Just "drop dead" sarcasm. How old are you kid?
      3. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 11 September 2018 08: 39
        +10
        more and more I come to the conclusion that the economic and social structure of the USSR was the most effective in the world. At least until 1970
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 September 2018 14: 32
          -2
          However, it was not long.
  4. Basil50
    Basil50 11 September 2018 05: 47
    +11
    Thanks to the author catch. That's just to compare Lukashenko and Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin is not worth it. Instead of a liberalistic cliche, it would be worthwhile to tell the very texture of the emergence of * the case of doctors * and then suddenly the Jews in the SOVIET UNION decided to become American informants, and some began to work directly for the USA. The most striking example is I Kedmi, which flickers on a RUSSIAN TV. From what? Why all of a sudden?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 11 September 2018 08: 05
      -4
      Quote: Vasily50
      Thanks to the author catch. That's just to compare Lukashenko and Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin is not worth it. Instead of a liberalistic cliche, it would be worthwhile to tell the very texture of the emergence of * the case of doctors * and then suddenly the Jews in the SOVIET UNION decided to become American informants, and some began to work directly for the USA. The most striking example is I Kedmi, which flickers on a RUSSIAN TV. From what? Why all of a sudden?

      1) Kedmi earned money in Russia - found a freebie at Solovyov. Additional earnings of an Israeli pensioner. He publishes his own books here (along with Shaitanovsky, personally “knowing” Abas, Hamas and Karabas Barabas laughing) And Nitsche, people buy a book, it’s called that - conversations of Satanovsky and Kedmi
      2) In the 50s of the 20th century, American Jews were Soviet informants - not the other way around. Spouses of Cohen executed for espionage Rosenberg, etc. Nuclear weapons for the country of the Soviets.
      3) The case of doctors began because of the stupid policy of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, asking Stalin to let the Soviet Jews leave the country, which it was hara to leave. And many Soviet Jews were not opposed. Doctors, professors, military.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 11 September 2018 08: 52
      +11
      What does Kedmi have to do with it? By the way, the most interesting type, I always listen to him. Indeed, it is impossible to compare Stalin and Lukashenko, but not because of the case of doctors, but because the nineties and the beginning of the fifties are diametrically opposed
      Quote: Vasily50
      compare Lukashenko and Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin is not worth it. Instead of a liberalistic cliche, it would be worthwhile to tell the very texture of the appearance * of the doctors' case * and then suddenly the Jews in the Soviet Union decided to become American informants,
  5. Fox
    Fox 11 September 2018 06: 03
    +17
    Well, here in the Samara region during the reign of Artyakov, too, bridges fell in an organized manner ... Merkushkin was repairing. now they are patching again ... and so what?
    êàî, once vyser about the neighbors, we do it all wonderful ... that's a thought Krasnogorsk Jeff Monson climbed ... beautiful!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 06: 48
      +17
      Quote: Fox
      Jeff Monson climbed up ..

      You know Zema, well, at least Berkova from EP does not run! laughing Although I would not be surprised anymore.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 11 September 2018 07: 51
        +5
        Well, in the same Italy, Chicholina ran for parliament.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 11 September 2018 08: 07
        -1
        And I would vote for it)) in all seriousness.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 12 September 2018 23: 49
          -1
          For what? For a great "life experience"?
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 11 September 2018 08: 39
      +11
      Quote: Fox
      Well, here in the Samara region during the reign of Artyakov, too, bridges fell in an organized manner ... Merkushkin was repairing. now they are patching again ... and so what?
      êàî, another vyser about neighbors, everything is wonderful here ...

      I agree, bridges have a resource, then they are repaired. As for the infrastructure as a whole, a few years ago when I went to Belarus, the difference in infrastructure between the impoverished Pskov region, especially its western part and the Vitebsk region, was striking - you just drive through the roads and the roads are wide, the fields are plowed and the curbs are trimmed and the houses in the villages along the highway are neat, the kids are running, livestock are walking, and not like in the Pskov region - everything is boarded up and overgrown with weeds. Again, three or four bridges were repaired while they reached the border. I saw everything with my own eyes, no Internet tales
    3. avt
      avt 11 September 2018 16: 15
      +3
      Quote: Fox
      so what?

      The fact that the bridge, as an engineering structure, is not a pyramid for tourists to view and requires routine maintenance, normal operation (at least in terms of weight loads, and not the type of how long it will withstand), and even has the terms of this operation itself have a beginning and an end (as the railway part of the metro bridge in Moscow, which was simply dismantled and rebuilt), after which it is easier and cheaper to build a new one ... or move it, writing off a good loot with subsequent operation as a "pedestrian". What in Moscow Luzhkov zade-na tebe capka-nosi everywhere, done.
  6. Naval
    Naval 11 September 2018 06: 13
    +27
    If you are called an ally, you must fulfill allied duty to the end. And when both yours and ours, as in that joke: do not teach me how to live, but help me better financially. Give money, to recognize the Crimea, Russian, this is violence against independence.
  7. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 06: 43
    +6
    Egorov's articles are recognized at the initial stage of reading the article. negative It is a pity that the cons did not return the articles. Everyone is trying to look at the mote in the prying eyes. Olezhek - she is there, but nobody canceled the logs in our eye!
    1. Olezhek
      11 September 2018 07: 22
      0
      1 Articles Egorova recognized at the initial stage of reading the article.


      And this is good

      It is a pity that the cons of the articles did not return.


      And that's bad

      Everything is trying to mote in someone else's eye. Olezhek - she is there,


      There, damn, not quite a speck, and not quite a log,
      there the very structure of the "visual apparatus" has changed irreversibly.
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 11 September 2018 08: 41
      +3
      After the election of GDP in 2012, it was very fashionable in the news on the first to show about the next "crisis" In Belarus, like won, fuel prices jumped by as much as 30%, the truth is that in "stable" Russia prices jumped by the same 30 % (from 22p to 30) was shyly silent repeat
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 11 September 2018 06: 48
    +19
    It will crack, someday Lukashenko’s seat, you won’t sit on several chairs ... He’ll leave .. He will leave the debts to the country ... And what to give, the same Chinese, do not forgive the debts .... unlike the Russian Federation .... It would seem that the broom (USSR) has unleashed into separate twigs, but each twig considers itself a broom .. And it does not reach yet that they can break ...
    1. novel66
      novel66 11 September 2018 10: 47
      +2
      China's aggression against Belarus is seen poorly laughing
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 11 September 2018 11: 32
        +8
        Yeah ... you think, a Belarusian and a Chinese, brothers forever ...? ... Debts, they are such a thing: Take strangers, give your own .. Give your own, take away strangers ...
        1. novel66
          novel66 11 September 2018 11: 36
          +1
          I meant military aggression lol
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 11 September 2018 12: 36
            +5
            And what does military aggression have to do with it? ... As the Chinese say: This is not our method ... smile And dad Sasha of Macedon used to say that two donkeys with gold will take any city ... smile Seyachas, donkeys for the transfer of payments, not in trend, .. New technologies, replaced donkey ... smile
            1. novel66
              novel66 11 September 2018 14: 19
              +1
              where the world is heading ....
  9. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 11 September 2018 06: 57
    +16
    Egorov, admit it when the Belarusians managed to spoil your soup !? belay wink
    In Russia, everything is so perfect and serene ("Vostochny" is ideally built, the roads are perfect, "Sozy" flies without holes, only Russians sit in the regional councils, there are no problems with pensions, etc.) that it is better to look directly into the eyes of a neighbor, ah there what will I notice lol His log is his own, as if it is not visible bully
    And here baud sideways malicious smugglers, malicious thieves, malicious beggars ... Ay-ya-yay! It’s not good how ....
    But Yegorov, problems with bridges are being solved (I say it like a road worker - such a problem bridge is being repaired five kilometers straight from the city), the leaders are being arrested, Yegorov, because there is nothing to steal! And this is the internal affair of the state, not politics!
    Stuck in the past? Such a past is better than a "bright capitalist future" - ask your people, they will tell you. Or do you wish us a "democratic" future for the Balts that emerged from the Soviet past? Moldovan? Thank you, Egorov, "respected" for your concern No.
    The only good news is that you are not the voice of the opinion of ordinary Russians who are not accessible to such privileges to express themselves in the computer, but still the media, and they have more mundane feelings for us, as we have for them .... But not for you request
    I would like to end the thought with Pushkin’s quatrain on the topic of double standards, but moderators will not miss ....
    PS. Pripyat’s problem bridge will be handed over to November 7, as Lukashenko ordered ... Guys work really, 24 hours a day, and that’s not a jabber wink
    Bridge spans, by the way, are Voronezh and paid for them, only Egorov will not write this, because allied relations spoil the whole beautiful picture of Belarusians beggars !!!! laughing hi
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 September 2018 07: 09
      +3
      Quote: Rurikovich
      when did Belarusians manage to spoil your soup !?

      There most likely everything is according to Freud. laughing
    2. Olezhek
      11 September 2018 07: 33
      +5
      The only good news is that you are not a voice of opinion of ordinary Russians, whom such privileges are not available to be expressed even in computer, but still Media

      belay ............................... belay ...................................... belay

      belay ....................................... belay ........................................ belay

      no, only "Surkov's agents" with 5 years of experience are published here.
    3. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 11 September 2018 08: 11
      +2
      Yes, grab you! Defending your own, that be right objectively.
    4. Alex_59
      Alex_59 11 September 2018 08: 36
      +5
      Quote: Rurikovich
      PS. Pripyat’s problem bridge will be handed over to November 7, as Lukashenko ordered ... Guys work really, 24 hours a day, and that’s not a jabber

      And I wonder if they passed the capital, these bridges? All the same, because somewhere overlooked it turns out. In our city, a concrete bridge built in 1967 passed the capital in the 00s, plus every 5 years they make repairs with the replacement of road pavements. At the same time, since the 00s, the movement of freight transport on this bridge has been prohibited, and a new metal bridge has been built with 6 lanes in both directions. And it is considered here "everything is bad, it is high time to build a third bridge, the authorities do not catch mice ..."
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 11 September 2018 18: 22
        +3
        Quote: Alex_59
        And interestingly, they passed the capital, these bridges

        Interestingly, ours took place a year before the state of emergency !!! Within two years, everything was removed to the very load-bearing beams, then monolith again with the installation of waterproofing and roadbed. At first, the locals said that it was of the type they violated the integrity of the structures, but they did not even touch the supporting beams. There is another version that when the bridge was being repaired, one lane was closed and the whole movement went along the other half, and these are the same timber trucks, rubble trucks and wagons. Only now the whole mass is on one side. So he could not stand it. After all, cracked a year after kapitalki request But this is so, opinions from the outside, although not without some truth ...
        Now the entire box structure is changed to metal. Today we went to work, so some of them were already lowered onto the bulls and the additional supports were removed to begin to erode the riverbed.
        Well, I say, I would give pictures, but don’t load the apasl of the last site update No.
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 11 September 2018 19: 55
          +2
          Quote: Rurikovich
          Interestingly, ours took place a year before the state of emergency !!!

          Yes ... business ....
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 11 September 2018 20: 34
            +4
            Quote: Alex_59
            Yes ... business ....

            Already completely closed the bypass over Sozh near Gomel. Exactly such a design. so if ours for a quarter consisted of a box-shaped scheme (just above the river), so Gomel’s completely box-shaped ... He still has not cracked, but outwardly visible in places subsidence with partial destruction of concrete. Traffic was sent through the city and there are decent traffic jams there .... Still problematic in Novopolotsk, also a box. All heavyweights have been banned there, except for cars and buses. That is still relatively lively. And there is also a double in Bobruisk. So there is movement per hour on a teaspoon and it is recognized only as potentially emergency ... And it still stands. All other bridges, according to the usual concrete scheme or metal ones, work ... But it collapsed in Minsk into a circular overpass, so it’s their fault - poor repair ... The designers limited the load to 20 tons, but who keeps it ... Wagons like that rod ... The problem of operation and quality, not design smile
            1. Alex_59
              Alex_59 11 September 2018 20: 49
              +2
              Quote: Rurikovich
              The issue of operation and quality, not design

              But they don’t build anything new from scratch? We had two crossings across the Kama River within the city - through the Kama Hydroelectric Power Station, and from 1967 of the year through the railway 4-lane bridge. In 2005-2008, a new all-metal bridge was erected on reinforced concrete supports on 6 strips using the sliding method. The entire heavy cargo truck goes along it and the hydroelectric power station, and the 1967 bridge of the year was amputated and the movement of trucks was closed. And no one goes quite real. I am not a supporter of praising my swamp, but nevertheless we are doing a little better. At least something new is being built. Although the people have long been demanding a fourth crossing within the city and are still not satisfied that there are only two bridges and hydroelectric power stations, one more bridge must be said. They are still designing it and feeding the electorate with breakfast for a couple of years, which we will soon build. True, they began to build a bridge outside the city across the Chusovaya River, but this is not a transib, it is a branch to the north.
              1. Rurikovich
                Rurikovich 11 September 2018 21: 33
                +4
                Quote: Alex_59
                But they don’t build anything new from scratch?

                Why ... Build. In the same Gomel 10 years ago, a city bridge was built across the Sozh in parallel to another. It seems that they will build a new one instead of the problematic one, for, I repeat, it is completely box-shaped, and ours is a quarter. So there at least traffic to bypass through the city is only an extra 20 kilometers, and bypassing the hook we got 270-300 km, depending on where you go instead of 18km across the bridge ...
                On rounds around regional cities, bridges are built across rivers. The scale, of course, is not Russian with its Kama and Volga, but for us a bridge 250-400m long across the middle river 50-70m wide is already a decent construction. And the three largest bridges with a kilometer length are all across Pripyat (one ours and two in Mozyr), although the river is 150-170 meters wide. Just Polesie is marshy and the river in the spring decently decays, several km across the width of the floodplain.
                Here, during the repair, they dug up the old channel, put it into the river, poured under the bridge to change the cracked span, upstream made a detour to the pontoon for cars and heavyweights, moreover, the steam was specially built from an ore carrier (it takes 5 trucks). they just change the span, wash the riverbed under the bridge again and spill the old man. Here the half republic is sitting around the clock. Pinsk Shipping Company with barges, dredgers, two Bridge Management watch, DEU, DRSU, Ministry of Emergency Situations ...
                By the way, the span was demolished by the explosion method. In the Internet there smile hi
                1. Rurikovich
                  Rurikovich 11 September 2018 22: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: Rurikovich
                  Just Polesie is marshy and the river in the spring decently decays, several km across the width of the floodplain.

                  Alex_59. If interesting

                  www.tio.by/info/novosti/20031/
                  There, by the way, there is a problem bridge. Photos are awesome smile
    5. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 11 September 2018 08: 59
      +4
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Egorov, admit it when the Belarusians managed to spoil your soup !?

      go to the grocery store - see the cheeses. 90% of Belarusian cheeses! made from evromolok! and Moldavian (Polish) apples?
      1. quolta
        quolta 11 September 2018 09: 53
        +7
        In May, they decided to defrost the refrigerator at work and wash it. I found a glass of sour cream (April 2017), that is, I stood in the common compartment for more than a year. Sour cream Belorusskaya well, for the sake of interest, I opened a mold and smells normal (I was afraid to try) nature product))
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 12 September 2018 23: 53
          0
          Sour cream for more than a year and not go bad? And you call it a natural product? Aren't you funny? Have you checked for preservatives?
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 11 September 2018 18: 14
        +1
        Quote: aybolyt678
        made from evromolok

        Lying!!! Impudent lie! TMK uses only its milk, from the floor of the region it is brought, but its !!!
        1. alexsipin
          alexsipin 14 September 2018 16: 54
          0
          Quote: Rurikovich
          Lying!!! Impudent lie! TMK uses only its milk, from the floor of the region it is brought, but its !!!

          I visited Belarusian products in Vilnius - excellent quality products. It's a pity they are not in Israel.
    6. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 11 September 2018 18: 10
      +3
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Egorov, admit it when the Belarusians managed to spoil your soup !?

      The author touched upon the unpopular topic "About the supposedly union state", about the "best friend of Russia" defending the western frontiers "for a certain amount of funds", etc. Those. said that many understand, but do not want to believe in the version of "Maidan Belarus".
  10. Fedorov
    Fedorov 11 September 2018 06: 59
    +11
    Like everything was gone?
    Well, to try on Belarus is the leader in Europe in the production of dairy products. They have a tractor for themselves, and the road is not read by the Ukrainian. Customs officers shy away from a nonsense bribe like fire. Minsk is "licked" - clean. Refrigerators are exported to many countries. In the modernization of military equipment, they have grown a little, foreign "cadets" are learning military affairs.
    So all is not lost. hi
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 11 September 2018 07: 10
      +16
      Quote: Fedorov
      Like everything was gone?

      Yes, we have problems above the roof !!! Only we do not hide behind the problems of our neighbors in order to conceal our request
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 11 September 2018 08: 42
        +3
        Good luck to you syabriks (I hope I didn't offend anyone?), Don't pay attention to the chauvinists' vying of them, who are getting divorced more and more. They themselves do not notice that they have become like our proto-ukrov, whom they "should all" because they "fed everyone." you have the will and intelligence not to slip down to our position and not break down under the pressure of the neighboring oligarchs, but to continue on your way.
      2. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 11 September 2018 08: 49
        +8
        We perfectly know our problems, the article is simply about what is now in the Republic of Belarus .. everything .. and nothing else, the Republic of Belarus had a chance to enter the Russian Federation and go in other ways, they went along the path of Butsky ... and as for your comments, dear Rurikovich and still comrade Ingvar .. here at least something happens somewhere that is good and all?
    2. silver169
      silver169 11 September 2018 08: 56
      +9
      Quote: Fedorov
      So all is not lost.


      Not all, are you sure? I was there recently, I looked at their life. A kind of modest, clean poverty. And what will happen without Russian help? And about the leader in Europe, do not la la. You, as always, because of your recent mentality, wishful thinking is valid.))
      1. Olezhek
        11 September 2018 09: 38
        +9
        I was there recently, looked at their lives. A sort of modest, clean poverty.


        By the way, well said. Exactly.
    3. avt
      avt 11 September 2018 16: 28
      +7
      Quote: Fedorov
      Well, for example, Belarus is the leader in Europe in dairy production.

      bully By "measure" - rather Europe is the leader in Belarus in the production of dairy products in it. bully Moreover, this is not only raw materials in the form of milk powder, but also direct deliveries.
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Only we do not hide behind the problems of our neighbors in order to conceal our

      bully The trick is that again, according to the loan repayment schedule, the old song begins about the main thing - Dengi! Dengi come on! " bully Of course, if you walk along the same Volga and dive to the pillars, there are also not very many joyful reports that can be issued, moreover, documented by the invoice. BUT - we can OURSELVE, with a certain effort, and if we also cancel “we are not 37 years old”, then we will correct the problem as soon as possible and we will chrome any tree. Yong already began to spread outrages with the IMF and made a run - ,, not suzhim- spinning to go to the composition of some state .. "I wonder which of the ,, sayuznago" wassat ? Well, in the light of, again, the earlier runs by Butler about the “Russian Mir”? And in terms of that Belarus will not have it, well, according to his words. That is, Russia should not be offered? wassat
    4. Blackflag88
      Blackflag88 12 September 2018 09: 55
      +1
      Tell me, what country of the world except Russia needs Belarusian tractor milk or refrigerators? Their defense is being upgraded from our spare parts. Moscow is also licked, but about bribes this is a so-so comparison.
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    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 11 September 2018 08: 19
      +17
      Oh, good! All problems begin at the very moment when, instead of solving them, a similar one begins, look at yourself. Let's just look at the situation from the point of view of states. Old Man runs into us constantly. And these and those. And there they are to blame and here they didn’t. Who runs into you? Putin said at least one bad word? Start with this. Attraction to an ally is at least a two-way road.
    2. silver169
      silver169 11 September 2018 08: 57
      0
      Quote: g_ae
      and then somehow it turns ugly pose.

      You know better, you have been living in this position for almost 30 years. )
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    1. Olezhek
      11 September 2018 08: 44
      +3
      More and more people are leaving Belarus and less and less coming.
      Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/607487.html


      Something like that.
      1. badboy453
        badboy453 11 September 2018 13: 18
        +3
        In 2017, just over 15 thousand people left the country. Of these, more than 9 thousand - in the CIS and more than 5 thousand - to other countries. In 2016, just over 13 thousand people left the country. Interestingly, the number of people leaving has been growing since 2014.
        At the same time, last year 18 961 people came to us from other countries. This is about 2 thousand people less than in 2016. Moreover, since 2016, the number of people who arrived in the country has been falling.
        Thus, in 2017, the migration increase in Belarus amounted to 3874 people, while in 2016 it was 7940.
        And what, this link is direct mass escape? Something I did not notice, as much as whole ... left 0,003% from my city.
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    3. BAI
      BAI 11 September 2018 10: 38
      -1
      I live in this Belarus

      Where is the flag?
      1. badboy453
        badboy453 11 September 2018 13: 19
        +2
        Dear, in the profile I have the country indicated, and where else I can’t install the banner separately, please, I didn’t find it.
  13. dgonni
    dgonni 11 September 2018 08: 26
    -11
    If you make out this article? THEN the most important thing comes out on top. But father did not recognize the annexation of Crimea, did not allow to place the airspace base on his territory and, to the heap, refused to sell the MZKT. Atu him laughing . But how to bite an ally more painfully? it’s just that milk is not like that, you are stealing our oil, and so on. Ukraine has already passed all this. But there is one big BUT. Belarus is in the Customs Union and all these trade preferences are spelled out in the agreement. So the big combinator steps on the same rake that with the Baltic states, that with Ukraine. Now Belarus is next in turn.
    1. Olezhek
      11 September 2018 08: 48
      +4
      And how to bite an ally is more painful?


      He is not an ally.
      1. dgonni
        dgonni 11 September 2018 09: 29
        +1
        CSTO and the customs union! Nope?
        1. avt
          avt 11 September 2018 16: 37
          +11
          Quote: dgonni
          +4
          CSTO and the customs union! Nope?

          bully Oh, these great eyes! bully Again, like in 2013, but now are you going to dance on the EAEU rake? And if you don’t bother to read maydaun to read your agreement with the EU, read the charter documents of this
          Quote: dgonni
          +4
          CSTO
          and the EAEU? Read it, then come talk to an adult.
          Quote: dgonni
          But father did not recognize the annexation of Crimea,

          Again, read the constitutional documents, namely the Constitution of the Ukrainian SSR, where it is written - hold a referendum on leaving the USSR, wait - the autonomous republics can also hold a similar referendum, but on leaving the union republic. Crimea exactly after yours in the early 90s spent its own and repeated it two more times. Last, when you sculpted the revolution of nonsense. And now, when you have declared at the Rada that you are not carrying the genealogy from the Ukrainian SSR, but the UPR. Then you and the UN must take a new one. Moreover, WITHOUT the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, which Lenin stuck in Ukraine as a FEDERAL and BILINGUAL. So
          big combinator
          it’s just that it doesn’t bother you all to hopak, and to dance on the rake. The ruins danced to the point that their rake straightened up, there were three cloves left and they decided with a broken brain - axis tserb! Salo Dropped! Death to the Curd! bully
    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 11 September 2018 08: 50
      +8
      What is the annexation of Crimea? Have you got anything wrong here?
    3. Ros 56
      Ros 56 11 September 2018 09: 44
      +6
      Who about what, and lousy about the bath. So Ukrainians. Read the wretched about the history of the Crimea, and find out who Prince Potemkin is, Admiral Fedor Ushakov and much, much more.
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 11 September 2018 12: 26
        +2
        Quote: Ros 56
        Who about what, and lousy about the bath. So Ukrainians. Read the wretched about the history of Crimea,

        And what is there Crimea. Read about the history of Alaska. And what? Russian naturalists and travelers made many geographical discoveries. Russia was growing in different territories through the efforts of politicians. But time passes. Nothing lasts forever under the moon. Borders are changing, new states are emerging. Many neighbors of Russia can make claims to it, justifying them with their historical rights and do not care about later agreements, but the forces are not enough. And the Russian Federation acted by the right of the strong, creating a dangerous precedent. Everything in this world is cyclical. Russia knew in its history both ups and downs. What now seems unshakable can suddenly collapse. Who thought that the USSR would be killed? So now the enemies of Russia have a reason to do exactly the same as Russia did, while hiding behind the "expression of will people. "The West is waiting. And they know how to wait. Now Ukraine is not russkaya. Soon at such a pace, Belarus. You can say as much as you like that this only makes Russia stronger, but there is a loss of territories, population, spheres of influence and loss after loss. Of course there is no faith in the West, but Russia, with its policies like America, too.
    4. raw174
      raw174 11 September 2018 10: 32
      +6
      Quote: dgonni
      But father did not recognize the annexation of Crimea

      Crimea became part of the Russian Federation following a referendum. Have you been to Crimea?
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 11 September 2018 12: 10
        -5
        Quote: raw174
        Crimea became part of the Russian Federation following a referendum.

        According to international law, the Crimea did not have the authority to hold such a referendum, and due to the fact that at the time of the referendum, the territory of Crimea was controlled by Russian troops, there are great doubts about the impartiality of voters and freedom of choice.
        1. raw174
          raw174 11 September 2018 12: 29
          +6
          Quote: revnagan
          the territory of Crimea was controlled by Russian troops there are big doubts

          You can doubt as much as you like, but is there evidence of pressure on the population by the RF Armed Forces? Our military was very delicate and polite. Our presence was always there, I served in Sevastopol. Control by our security forces ensured order, not a single successful provocation, not a single incident. I talked with residents in Crimea, they are not Ukrainians, they are Russians and there is no more pro-Russian region in Russia than Crimea.
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 11 September 2018 13: 39
            -7
            Quote: raw174
            but there is evidence of pressure on the population by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?

            If someone covered up the traces of their deeds and destroyed the evidence, this does not mean that the act itself was not. So you will begin to justify the snipers who shot the Berkut from the Kiev House of Trade Unions: the authorities cut down trees with traces of bullets, removed the poles, and that's it, " tse vse nonsense! "Now evidence of the deliberate burning of people in Odessa and Mraiupol in 2014 is being destroyed. If all the evidence is destroyed, you will also say that" tse vse nonsense! "?.
            1. raw174
              raw174 11 September 2018 13: 48
              +7
              Well, here you have given examples of covering the tracks, but from the Crimea there are such examples? Now is the century of the simplest exchange of information, where are the videos of convoys to polling stations? where is the photo of people voting with the barrel at the temple, where is that? Why did the population of Crimea not defend the Ukrainian state? Almost all the military in Crimea laid down their arms without resistance, talk about annexation, occupation, that the occupied did not resist, but rather met our fighters as liberators, as in the 44th ...
              And if we are talking about rights, why were the Falklands allowed to self-determination? Was Yugoslavia self-determined by right?
        2. NKT
          NKT 11 September 2018 21: 42
          +4
          A coup d'etat took place in Ukraine and the autonomous republic decided to secede from the state. Everything is like ours in 1917 and 1991. But she came out through a referendum (albeit with the help of the military of the Russian Federation), which was held by the local government, legally elected, according to the constitution.

          The question is, did Kosovo have the right? Yugoslavia was divided according to what international law? Did the Comoros and the Fockland Islands have a right? Under what international law did the FRG "swallow" the GDR?
    5. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 12 September 2018 23: 56
      -1
      For the annexation of Crimea in more detail is it possible? With the victims, with their number, with the annexations of the victim is necessary.
  14. minus
    minus 11 September 2018 08: 27
    +4
    You would think that in Russia all the bridges are standing .... In Kyzyl, a bridge under construction was damaged in the spring, and a new one ... In Minusinsk, they repaired and destroyed the bridge. Then they drowned the tractor ... Then they overturned the crane ... Recently, they again overturned the crane and broke the already installed bridge beam ..
    Well, nothing will be fine now, everything will be fine: "According to the Minusinsk deanery of the Krasnoyarsk diocese, a prayer service was held on September 6 for the successful completion of the construction of a new communal bridge across the Yenisei river. The event was attended by the head of the city Dmitry Merkulov, representatives of the construction organization and caring residents of Minusinsk.

    Recall that from the beginning of the construction of the bridge there have already been 3 incidents related to construction equipment. So, in the summer of 2017, an excavator went under water and in the fall, during a construction work, a truck crane fell.

    And a week and a half ago, on August 28, when installing one of the beams of the ceiling of the structure, a caterpillar crane fell on its side.

    As it became known to the correspondent of the site "Sreda24" from the press service of the Minusinsk Spassky Cathedral, the prayer service was performed at the request of the mayor as part of the program of interaction between the church and the public of the city.

    We do not know what influenced the decision of the head of the city to turn to the church: either public opinion on social networks about the need to consecrate this place, or his own initiative. We hope that this event will help the start of traffic on the new bridge in October this year. " repeat
    1. pru-pavel
      pru-pavel 11 September 2018 09: 01
      +8
      Minusin himself. You wrote everything clearly and correctly. I am glad that even on this site such information breaks through. Generally if you count. then on repairing the Minusinsk bridge, in addition to the fact that they already broke three cranes, one length meter and drowned for 3 days (then got out) one excavator, the dolka was already dolomized (it had to be demolished and another one built according to the new project) there are already a dozen people were injured, one even lost his hand falling in a collapse of a span and finding himself under the rubble. The bridge is 120 meters long (it was, now there will be 40 + a dam), the realities are that, even if you’re calm down, though not.
  15. g_ae
    g_ae 11 September 2018 08: 28
    -6
    In order to criticize neighbors, you yourself must first of all comply with the declared high ideal. And at the moment, Russia resembles the United States since the late Obama. Described eagle. His eyes sparkle, plasma speeches, a proud and formidable look, but his trousers are wet and not very smelling. It’s better not to argue with that. What a beak, and claws. And the smell can be tolerated, where to go (I'm talking about the United States if that).
    1. silver169
      silver169 11 September 2018 09: 03
      +6
      Russia will not be the first time. But I'll see what you say in five years and how it will smell of you then.
      1. g_ae
        g_ae 11 September 2018 11: 34
        +3
        Anything is possible, but I remember almost five years ago. Crimean spring, New Russia from Kharkov to Odessa, fraternal help to Syria, our Aroma is the most reinforced, our planes are the most airy. The Russian world rules. Well, almost 5 years have passed. And what? Are the results confusing? And that your stadium in Volgograd almost went into the ravine - is that normal? And the fact that the Vostochny cosmodrome has been built since 2012, and finally they found voids. As in the anecdote about the Sharp Falcon, who noticed on the 5th day that there was no wall. And what now? And the damned communists built Baikonur in less than three years. And this is at the same level of technology. And "Winter Cherry". The Belarusians are also to blame. And so on ad infinitum. More and more you begin to resemble southern non-brothers. "Who ate our bacon and drank our vodka?" I got this cattle patriotism in the style of "Tagil rules!" from our rash.
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 11 September 2018 11: 55
          0
          Have you dug up all the potatoes already? Maybe you should go dig it over and take a break of the key knocking? Otherwise you’re broadcasting as a child in the sandbox, but here you have it, but here you have it ... and we’ll do gas for everyone, what do you say? there themselves at least something sensible built during the entire reign of LUkashenko, except for the screwdriver assembly of the Chinese automobile industry?
        2. g_ae
          g_ae 11 September 2018 12: 24
          +7
          As for oil, I dare to remind you that this is not our oil, and not yours. This is the oil of Messrs. Sechin, Gutseriev, etc. Well, ask them why there is no pension money with rising oil. Where are the petrojollars. Why is there money from oil in Qatar or the Emirates, but you don’t. Lukashenko stole? We do not get it for free, but we buy it. And we have a single customs and economic space. As if. For which, by the way, your DAM fought in due time. And there should not be any obstacles to the movement of goods and finance. And then, and what prevents you from planting the whole world with high-tech, innovative products. SKOLKOVO, Rusnano, some kind of sharaga is being organized in the resort from the Moscow Region. Such effective managers have plowed in this direction. Bertia smokes on the sidelines. One Chubais is worth it. Well, show me how to work. No. Send and voted Edro. Every nation has the government that it deserves. And which it (the people) has. Something like this.
          1. Olezhek
            11 September 2018 13: 48
            0
            that it is not our oil, and not yours. This is the oil of Messrs. Sechin, Gutseriev, etc. Well, ask them why, when oil becomes more expensive, there is no money for retirement.


            1 Well, that is not Belarusian oil - quite obvious

            2 Russia is a completely sovereign state and will solve its problems on its own.


            Something like that. fellow
            1. Lex.
              Lex. 11 September 2018 14: 15
              -4
              But look at https://www.belvpo.com/en/96890.html/
              Here you kind of had an article, but the KAMAZ platform postponed the release of breakdowns at the parade, it happened, so you have to use the Belarusian
              1. BAI
                BAI 11 September 2018 16: 14
                +1
                Here, the Belarusians are happy with the presentation of the video that not everything is in order with the "Platform-O".
                http://by24.org/2018/08/30/funny_russian_rocket_truck/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
                Although judging by the video, she is still far from perfect.
                1. Lex.
                  Lex. 11 September 2018 17: 29
                  -1
                  Why not be happy monopolists
            2. g_ae
              g_ae 11 September 2018 14: 37
              -1
              Well, finally decide them. And we will see and learn.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 September 2018 15: 04
            -2
            And all the money from the oil industry in the form of taxes in the treasury, the rest for the costs and only a part is the net profit for the development of their infrastructure companies and other things, last year Gazprom's net profit was 766 billion rubles, Rosneft had 400 billion - comparing, for patching a hole in the pension More than three trillion rubles are allocated from the budget from the fund, now pensioners live off pension savings - currently working, since their pension savings turned into a dummy after 91 years - not everyone understood what was happening and continue to yell, where are our high pensions.
          3. avt
            avt 11 September 2018 17: 54
            +4
            Quote: g_ae
            We do not get it for free, but we buy it.

            Not free, but with a difference of at least $ 20 less from the "market" per barrel.
            Quote: g_ae
            Why is there money from oil in Qatar or the Emirates, but you don’t. Lukashenko stole?

            How is it not? And what then did your Butler ask us just now like Ponikovsky - "Give a billion!" And to VVPem - "It has already been invested in the GTS of Belarus." Yes!
            Quote: g_ae
            We do not get it for free, but we buy it.

            You also process it at your refineries, but under a joint agreement you sell gasoline with a customs duty section. However, somehow all of a sudden gasoline became ... not gasoline, but ... solvent and other paints and varnishes and ... something like it is not necessary to rip off a share from them. Well, it is not necessary and not necessary, but then oil at world prices, not negotiated prices. So what ? And right at the kryk- "Don't bend us down!"
            Quote: g_ae
            And we have a single customs and economic space. As if.

            Well, yes. Type. Current Butka recognized and offered to pay at $ bully Well, as it were, and goodies.
            Quote: g_ae
            Every nation has the government that it deserves. And which it (the people) has.

            Is Dupa sick? Well, these are not our problems - the Belarusian is a haunted state and Batska does not trade in suvaryanitet ... though I did a run just now - if the "lukonomics" goes on like this, then you have to go to some state. bully
            Quote: g_ae
            Something like that.
            And the campaign, since Buttska said - "Russian World" Belarus will not have ... somehow I don't know which composition. Maybe Lithuania? Ali Poland? Really in the Ruins? wassat And hto not jump that Muscovite? request Your will, rake too.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 11 September 2018 18: 02
              +7
              Quote: avt
              And the campaign, since Butler said - "Russian World" Belarus will not have ... somehow I do not know which composition. Maybe Lithuania? Ali Poland? Really in the Ruins? And who doesn’t jump that Moskal?

              Well ... If at football matches taking place on the territory of NizalEzhnaya Belarussi, the ulras fans do not stop chanting chants "Hto ne skache - that mo..l!", The further course of events is quite predictable - or "lukonomics" will turn into the state of the Minsk Maidan, or bam "will change on the go" and will require a place in the EU and NATO.
              Only the lazy did not write about the harvests of the "Belarusian sea" and "non-Polish apples" ....
              1. Olezhek
                11 September 2018 18: 55
                +4
                If at football matches taking place on the territory of NizalEzhnoy Belarus, the ulras fans are chanting "Hto ne skache - that mo..l!" Without stopping, the further course of events is quite predictable -


                Well, something like that ....
                For all the years of the Ukrainian-Syrian conflict, we did not wait for any manifestations of "pro-Russian" attitude on the part of the Belarusians ..
                But on the back of the conflict ...

                So yes - eroshlah ...
          4. NKT
            NKT 11 September 2018 21: 56
            0
            do not compare with Qatar or the CA or Norway, they have several times more production per capita. For example, Norway has only oil production per person - 114 barrels, ours - 26.
        3. avt
          avt 11 September 2018 16: 52
          +9
          Quote: g_ae
          Everything can be, but I remember almost five years ago. Crimean spring, Novorossia from Kharkov to Odessa, fraternal assistance to Syria, our Aroma is the most armored, our planes are the most aircraft. The Russian world rules. Well, almost 5 years have passed. And what? The results do not bother?

          With what?
          Quote: g_ae
          fraternal assistance to Syria,

          It is available, only the castrolegol head upright does not see it.
          Quote: g_ae
          Crimean spring

          The bridge is standing, the airport is also building roads, we are launching a thermal power plant
          Quote: g_ae
          The most aromatic fragrance

          In military trials, a contract for the first 100 was signed. Right now, she’ll attach a new trunk to 152mm.
          Quote: g_ae
          our planes are the most aircraft.

          But father on the PUP got out - take out and put down 30 pieces of the Su-30.
          Quote: g_ae
          And the fact that the Vostochny Cosmodrome was being built since 2012, and finally they discovered voids. As in a joke about the Vigilant Falcon, who on day 5 noticed that there was no wall. And what now?

          We'll put them in with those who are already in prison, including a Georgian, who cut through Minsk in a car with crystals pasted over the money stolen from "Vostochny" and we will repair it, but we will make a table for "Angara".
          Quote: g_ae
          And Baikonur built damned communists in less than three years.

          bully The undersized! Well, at least you know, WHAT is "Baikonur" and how many sites are there? Have you seen it yourself? Hike-no, otherwise I would not carry nonsense about 3 years. It was built until the end of the USSR.
          Quote: g_ae
          "Who ate our bacon and drank our vodka?"

          This is you training manual, that under Kravchuk before the referendum of 1991 in Ukraine knowishol? bully
        4. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 12 September 2018 23: 58
          -1
          Well, not everything is okay with us, it's true. But the fact that people like you graze on Russian resources is already saying a lot.
      2. Semen1972
        Semen1972 11 September 2018 17: 44
        -6
        Quote: silver169
        Russia will not be the first time.

        Will survive against whom?)))
        We will endure and dozhil !!!! All people overexposed !!!! )))) Ahahahaha)))) Let's start now or tomorrow?
  16. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 11 September 2018 08: 42
    +2
    Quote: St. Propulsion
    Hmmm, managing the state is a great job. Lukashenka was spoiled, and he believed in his political and economic "genius", the freebie seems to be over. It's time for Belarus to enter Russia, the two Germany united and nothing terrible happened. In my opinion, this is the best option, otherwise we will have one more edge.

    To unite, then they unite, only so far the eastern lands have not reached the western level, why do we need such a stone around our neck?
  17. akunin
    akunin 11 September 2018 09: 16
    +2
    How skillfully the Chinese trade: they sell goods, load their people with work, and have respect from Belarusians. In response to tens of billions of “living” money, we have nothing but threats to “leave for the West”. Maybe something needs to be "fixed in the conservatory"?
    can Putin to China for an internship?
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  18. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 September 2018 09: 39
    +5
    Interesting news from the Belarus brothers. Well, Luke has long run into harsh words, he is constantly guilty of the Russians, and he himself is always cited by the allied treaty. This is when something is needed from us, and always yells about its independence, when something is required of it. Here's a one-way game. You just need to hold a referendum in Belarus and by the way in Russia, too, on the unification of the country with Russia into one state, and in case of a positive solution to the peoples of both countries, many problems will gradually disappear into oblivion. True, for this, some figures on both sides need to put their Wishlist in their ass. Yes, many personalities will lose something, but nations, unlike them, will become stronger and more friendly.
    1. YarSer88
      YarSer88 11 September 2018 16: 51
      +1
      It is not necessary for Belarusians, and Russians, most likely, too. Let the union state be better.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 11 September 2018 16: 55
        +3
        This is who told you that the referendum is being held so that people express their opinion, and not just listen to your speculation.
        1. YarSer88
          YarSer88 11 September 2018 16: 58
          +2
          I worked with Belarusians, bought linen from them, visited many times in cottages, went fishing, in general - I spoke a lot with different people of different views. So, they didn’t have zeal for unification with Russia, although they treat our country not bad, in comparison with many CIS countries.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 11 September 2018 17: 19
            0
            Judging by your words, you don’t need to explain such a business, but how is the profit made too. That's just the point, that the freebie for Rygorich ends, and therefore for all the inhabitants of the republic too. It’s good to make money on duty-free (read free) oil, it was good for seafood from the Belarusian Sea, exotic fruits from the Belarusian subtropics, and even primitive apples from apple trees that planted every square meter of the country, judging by the number of tons sent to Russia. I am not against Belarusians, on the contrary, these are probably our closest people. But economics, you yourself understand this, is a slightly different concept, you don’t even keep your own brother in your life?
            1. YarSer88
              YarSer88 11 September 2018 17: 28
              +2
              The question about my brother is provocative, I will not answer it. Yes, and they are not brothers to us, they are rather close friends, and to lend to a friend, even knowing that he will not return most likely - not so sorry. It is bad that the appanage princes are too afraid for their destinies to pursue a friendly policy, which, by the way, also increased their welfare. We do not make any special claims to their sovereignty, as long as they do not include "multi-vector". Both states would benefit from a balanced allied policy, and I do not see any special advantages from inclusion in the Russian Federation, except perhaps moral satisfaction.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 11 September 2018 17: 49
                +1
                And they are not our brothers

                And who were they when they froze in one trench and divided the last cracker in half, and sometimes they put the chest under the bullets?
                and give a friend a loan, even knowing that he will not return most likely - not so sorry

                Of course I agree, well, one, well, two, well, three ....., but not all my life.
                That's about the specific princes, I wrote, so they stuck their Wishlist much deeper.
                And sovereignty is what kind of beast it is, the ability to be a self-sufficient, independent state, capable of pursuing an independent foreign policy. Hand on heart tell many such states, I personally believe that there are only three on the whole planet: Russia, China, the United States. And there is nothing offensive in such a situation, such is la la vie. fellow
                But on the contrary, it gives opportunities for our peoples much more than sitting in their apartments. I think so, but I do not impose my opinion on anyone.
                1. YarSer88
                  YarSer88 11 September 2018 19: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  And sovereignty is what kind of beast it is, the ability to be a self-sufficient, independent state, capable of pursuing an independent foreign policy. Hand on heart tell many such states, I personally believe that there are only three on the whole planet: Russia, China, the United States. And there is nothing offensive in such a situation, such is la la vie.

                  You confuse sovereignty and the center of power. Russia, the USA and China are centers in whose orbit there are smaller countries, and sovereignty is the ability to choose which orbit you want to rotate in. For example, Belarus is a sovereign country, it can choose the western vector, it can remain our ally, it can join China (I don’t know such examples, but there is an opportunity, no one will interfere). At the same time, yes, she does not have the strength to create her own block. But, for example, Ukraine already does not have such sovereignty, it is de facto already bought by the IMF with giblets, that is, it is controlled by the United States. And if Belarus confuses freedom with permissiveness, it will end the same way.

                  Quote: Ros 56
                  But on the contrary, it gives opportunities for our peoples much more than sitting in their apartments.

                  But still, what will radically change with the unification, which cannot be with the union of independent states? Personally, I see only harm: 1) deep integration of the economy will begin again, and the guarantee of the safety of this order will be near zero. 2) The specific princes will not go anywhere, they will only wait for the right moment to chop off their piece again, and maybe more. 3) We’ll get a weak spot for pressure from outside, they’re unlikely to recognize the law, they will begin to impose sanctions against Belarusian assets, as a result, local residents will get such a bunt. If we can still support small Crimea in such a regime, then Belarus will be overwhelmed.
  19. BAI
    BAI 11 September 2018 10: 35
    +3
    The 90s is already a distant story, then for modern Belarusians the problems of the 90s / issues of the 90s are still relevant.

    If so, then on the threshold - the Belarusian Maidan.
  20. g1v2
    g1v2 11 September 2018 11: 24
    +15
    Well, the fact that with all the love of the Russian man in the street for Lukashenko, he doesn't know a fig about him is a fact. And that the "fairest" economy of the post-Soviet space is unprofitable and depends on external loans and discounts, too. Tax on parasites, raising the retirement age, etc. - not because of a good life, they had to introduce. Moreover, the point is not that Old Man is some kind of bad. It's just that the Belarusian industry has always been part of a single complex with the Russian and Ukrainian ones. She cannot live separately. RF can replace it, but vice versa - not. But Russia demands to decide - with whom Belarus. That is, there is no multi-vector approach, but a FULL integration into our economy, albeit while maintaining sovereignty. request
    For all post-Soviet elites, the biggest threat is the return to Russia. Terrorism, crime, economics and so on are secondary. They are afraid of losing their specific principalities. RB is no exception. Old Man clearly said to the camera that if the economy is not improved, then there is a danger of joining another country. And I think everyone understands which country it is. And the stronger Russia is, the more it will be perceived as a threat and the worse our relations will be. It’s not worth it to arrange hysteria - this is a regularity.
    At the same time, Russia has something to offer the main Belarusian oligarch Lukashenko. Most importantly, his desire is to provide for his family and transfer power by inheritance. But I doubt that the Old Father's children will be able to keep her themselves. That would not talk about Luke, but he has steel Faberge. He can hold 10 million country in a fist. But, here his children are unlikely to be able to. And the support of the Russian Federation will be extremely necessary for them.
  21. Sergey Ka
    Sergey Ka 11 September 2018 12: 11
    +5
    50% of the article is rubbish.
    1. YarSer88
      YarSer88 11 September 2018 16: 55
      -3
      As well as about Ukraine, but people want to know that they have not everything so bad compared to Russia. Actually, like Ukrainians always want to pardon the news about how Russia is bent. There is no need to think about how to get rid of propaganda and find common ground so that politicians to raise the rating do not pour mud on each other, but pour statements of friendship (if popular opinion is in favor of friendship, politicians will promote the topic of friendship). But apparently, the Slavs are so assigned to us by nature - to always kill each other in civil strife, while the external enemy grows stronger on our feuds. The Mongol invasion taught us nothing.
  22. Tochilka
    Tochilka 11 September 2018 12: 31
    +1
    in fact, what is the problem of rebuilding a bridge or building a new one instead of the old?
    to calculate the estimate (it may cost not a billion bridge (Crimean does not count)), materials, appoint a RESPONSIBLE, determine the time and forth. Managed - honor and respect. I didn’t do it - there are many places in the prison.
    1. akunin
      akunin 11 September 2018 12: 37
      +2
      now a new school should be built about a billion tselkovikov - the bridge will be more expensive.
  23. Mentor
    Mentor 11 September 2018 12: 51
    +3
    The bridge across the Pripyat River (in the Zhitkovichi district of the Gomel region) was built in the mid-90s. Currently, the central span is being replaced to replace the cracked one. The bridge will be put into operation on November 7, 2018. Here you have the article.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 11 September 2018 20: 49
      +4
      Quote: Mentor
      The bridge across the Pripyat River (in the Zhitkovichi district of the Gomel region) was built in the mid-90s

      The bridge across the Pripyat River in the Zhitkovichi district was opened in 1985, and this is the mid-80s wink I live nearby repeat
      Quote: Mentor
      Currently, the central span is being replaced to replace the cracked one.

      It seems that by the end of this week they should put the metal span completely on the supports, and by October 15, begin to form the roadbed. I would upload pictures, but not loaded ...
      Quote: Mentor
      The bridge will be put into operation on November 7, 2018.

      The bridge workers said yes. They are going according to the schedule But they should completely pass, with the analysis of the access roads to the ferry and the pontoon and bringing nature into its original form (after all, the natural reserve "Srednyaya Pripyat", such as the national park) should be by mid-December ...
      1. Mentor
        Mentor 12 September 2018 09: 20
        +1
        I apologize for the inaccurate information. I was guided by "Novaya Palessya", and probably confused something.
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 13 September 2018 07: 08
          0
          Quote: Mentor
          I was guided by "Novaya Palessya", and probably confused something.

          hi If to Zhitkovichi "Novaya Palesse", then nothing surprising - local brehalovka wink lol
  24. DesToeR
    DesToeR 11 September 2018 13: 19
    +6
    The article is written on some emotions. Analytics is based on conclusions, conclusions are based on facts, and facts are numbers (series of dynamics in your case). Without comparison, the numbers are agulny. Where is the author's figures? If you write about a drought, tell us about the average yield per hectare in comparison with 1. If you have mentioned the transport infrastructure, then provide data on the kilometers of roads built over 2017 years and capital investments in the repair of existing ones. 27 bridges "collapsed"? And how many bridges collapsed in Russia during the current period. If the scale of Russia and Belarus is not comparable, then provide data for the Pskov, Smolensk and Bryansk regions, for example, for the "reporting period". An article of the level of the song "apples in the snow ..." - there are a lot of emotions, and the text is lame.
    1. Enemy
      Enemy 12 September 2018 06: 06
      +1
      but nobody gives money anymore!
      It does not seem strange that from all the irons they shout: We have all the enterprises working!
      And if they work, then why does your Lukashenko beg for money? Apparently because they are not earned.
  25. Curious
    Curious 11 September 2018 14: 23
    +3
    Something I do not understand the author. Maybe this is an attempt to prepare a replacement for the theme of Ukraine, or is it an attempt to pave the way for what Belarus has also experienced? Or maybe it was a private initiative of the author, who realized that he had already dodged the "writers" like sprat in a bank and decided to take a breath of fresh air.
  26. gorenina91
    gorenina91 11 September 2018 17: 11
    0
    -Well, and today Russia is also "bred" in the same way ... as Belarus ... -and still the same ... "partner" ...
  27. Semen1972
    Semen1972 11 September 2018 17: 42
    -2
    Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
    Is it painful to realize that you live in a country of a kept woman?

    No more painful than realizing that living in the richest resource country you have a s / n less homeless in America)))
  28. Larum
    Larum 11 September 2018 18: 25
    +1
    Is the author of Lukashenko’s direct thoughts read? He knows everything better than the Old Man himself ... judging by the article?
    1. Olezhek
      11 September 2018 19: 52
      +1

      Author straight thought Lukashenko reads?


      The author is the owner of a unique myelphone ... smile
  29. g_ae
    g_ae 11 September 2018 19: 11
    +5
    I offer my deepest apologies to everyone whose national feelings touched me with my comments. Was wrong! Sprayed! I repent! But the author made such a madrigal from a crack in the bridge support, deduced such a concept, heaped such a heap of nightingale droppings. And such wise comments went. I could not resist. He scooped up a handful and threw it into the chicken coop. I realize that trolling is bad. I promise to fix it. Already fixed.
    1. Radrygess
      Radrygess 11 September 2018 20: 12
      +6
      Why do you apologize for the fact that the president of your republic is being interfered with dirt, and you are called a parasite?
      1. Shot
        Shot 11 September 2018 20: 44
        -2
        Quote: Radrygess
        Why do you apologize for the fact that the president of your republic is being interfered with dirt, and you are called a parasite?

        Liberast! What to take from him .. negative
      2. g_ae
        g_ae 11 September 2018 21: 04
        +9
        I apologize for the intemperance and dubious allegories. And so, under every word I’m ready to subscribe again. I have not read such nonsense yet. How many times have I promised to go into VO. The trouble with Lukashenko is that he is alone. And is responsible for everything. But GDP may well hide behind its shobla, which it does not let in. Even the notorious Mutko found a place. Just for the construction. How not to cheat for your little man. And it turns out that the king is good, and the boyars are being weird. A whole cult has formed. A sect of witnesses to the cunning plan of Great Putin. But arguing with sectarians is useless. I couldn’t resist. Offended the feelings of believers. Sorry. I didn’t want to offend anyone.
        1. Olezhek
          12 September 2018 14: 35
          +1
          Trouble Lukashenko, that he alone. And is responsible for everything.

          Oh well
          and every time (already 25 years) in Belarus "bad officials" who are to blame for all the failures are responsible.
          so don't
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 13 September 2018 07: 16
            0
            Quote: Olezhek
            so don't

            Oleg, just for example - Lukashenko approves the heads of districts (local princes) on the proposal of regional "princes", therefore he stupidly trusts the regions. Upon arrival, these very "princelings" begin to rule, depending on their moral principles. So those who argue that not only Lukashenka but also the bureaucratic apparatus is ruining everything are partly right.
            Believe me, such things happened before my eyes. Then such a "prince" was taken by the balls and demoted. And this is akin to the most powerful humiliation. One such now is some sort of third deputy at a third-rate factory with a staff of 100 people. But he was hoo! - the head of the district, the traffic cops saluted and the rabble trembled.
            You, too, GDP is not to blame for anything, but his retinue is blamed for everything wink
            You need to be more objective, Oleg, more objective wink hi
  30. Karabin
    Karabin 11 September 2018 20: 12
    +10
    A generation of Erefians, dill and Litvinians grew up on the territory of Russia. A sort of Ivanov who does not remember kinship. For them there is no longer a single Great, Small and White. There is no triune Russian people. There is the Russian Federation (which they call Russia for some reason), "independent" Ukraine and Belarus. From three corners, the Vanka are pouring slops on each other and are incredibly happy when two cows died against one of them. So Olezhek rejoiced with a twinkle about the "cattle death" at Father's. Just why rejoice? Will the Belarusian economy die? What is the profit for the RF? Lukashenko in addition to Yanukovych, the Minsk Maidan and the Belarusian "Donbass"? I know only one thing, Russians will be killed. And not a single Kremlin dwarf can do anything about it, and he will not want to, because there is no request for action from the ever-growing generation of Erefians.
    1. Shot
      Shot 11 September 2018 20: 41
      +1
      Quote: Karabin
      I know only one thing, they will kill the Russians.

      How did you talk the carabiner, but the men didn’t know ... bully
  31. Shot
    Shot 11 September 2018 20: 38
    +2
    Again they come across Old Man? What does it give you to the liberals then it doesn’t give rest .. Well Belarus survived in the 90s and retained the main enterprises. Yes, they do not live richly, but independently and the devils are not allowed into their economies, and this angers the West and our oligarchs ..
    PS Obviously someone is trying very hard to turn Belarus into an analogue of the bloody outskirts ..
    Hold on Old Man! They will not pass! ..
    1. Olezhek
      14 September 2018 08: 32
      0
      What is she to you liberasta something rest does not give


      Russians don’t like Russophobia - what’s so surprising?
  32. Vladimir 5
    Vladimir 5 11 September 2018 20: 48
    -1
    Belarus, an independent country, especially in a completely corrupt Russia there is no desire to enter, even the Central Asian countries do not go, but shy away. To restore order in Russia, so that citizens can live well, then they will be pulled. And other military gadgets do not shine for nations, they do not warm and do not help to live ...
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 13 September 2018 00: 06
      0
      Yes zadolbal their corruption. American LNG in Europe is not even corruption, it is frankly NAGIBALOVO, and including you. They are no longer exchanged for bribes, they frankly have you.
  33. Brigadier
    Brigadier 11 September 2018 21: 11
    +2
    That's it, Lukash! Sailed ... Sushi oars and drain the water. A complete bummer to you on all fronts.
    We remember how you sucked with the West and threatened Russia, earning considerable revenues at our expense. We remember the smuggled fish from the Belarusian Sea and bananas with tangerines from tropical Belarus. We remember how you constantly asked for money from us, but after receiving the next tranche, pretended that it should be so and that we must give you more, but our air base for covering Russia from the western direction did not allow us to build (you time sucked with the West) ... It's time to pay the bills ...
    Do not be your son the crown prince of Belarus. Thank heaven, if at all you can get away during the Belarusian popular revolt. What you sow, you will reap ...
    As Schwarzenegger said there in the 90s: "Asta lavista, baby!" Hyundai hoh!
    1. g_ae
      g_ae 11 September 2018 21: 33
      +3
      Ale, admins! And will you send a warning to this frame? Or is everything okay here? Lord, where does that come from!
    2. alexhol
      alexhol 11 September 2018 22: 05
      -3
      Have you already escaped in the course of the second one? drinks
    3. Enemy
      Enemy 12 September 2018 06: 03
      +2
      Remember August 2008, who supported Saakashvili during the attack on Tskhinval? Lukashenko. Who recognized the Turchinov’s Kiev junta in 2013? Again Lukashenko ... Who recognized Poroshenko as legal and blessed the beginning of the ATO in the Donbas? Again Lukashenko ...
      No matter how offended the Byelorussians are, Lukashenko is the mirror of his people.
      And the current economic situation is punishment. Russia will always be to blame for those who are not.
      I’ll also add, when I had to live in the Belarusian territory, a friend of mine said to me: Never do good to Belarusians, because then they will dump you with dirt and shit and you will be guilty!
      So it happened.
    4. Enemy
      Enemy 12 September 2018 06: 04
      +1
      100% agree!
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  35. Enemy
    Enemy 12 September 2018 05: 56
    +1
    I spoke about this impending crisis of "Nezalezhnosti" back in 2008, high-quality Belarusians laughed at me, answering - you envy us. The question is what to envy?
    1. Mentor
      Mentor 12 September 2018 09: 30
      +4
      Probably you know better from the outside. Especially if you only read Belpartizan and Charter-97 on the Internet ... I don't read them, I just look at life with my own eyes. I look and see that since 1991 only one enterprise has been liquidated in Mozyr, the rest have been rebuilt and modified. They say there’s a crisis ... How awful, but I don’t notice it, this crisis. He's probably in stealth mode? The work itself is very dark, and the refinery has been overfulfilling the plan for the third month already, the salt plant is increasing its exports to the Baltic states. The distillery dispatches its products to Russia and Kazakhstan. He began to make new vodka, called "Tambov Prostory". The President is chasing doctors, it's high time. Here they say that the Chinese are byaks, but I think they will electrify the railroad for us, just the turn of the Zhlobin-Kalinkovichi line has come. And the Russians loudly began to build a technical soda plant, they even created a directorate ... Seven years ago. As for the rest, of course, the crisis, even the opposition has calmed down.
      1. Olezhek
        14 September 2018 08: 30
        0
        Probably you know best. Especially if you only read Belpartizan and Charter-97 on the Internet ...


        Even if you read tut.by (one of the most popular Internet resources in Belarus), the picture is no better
  36. vtnsk
    vtnsk 12 September 2018 09: 23
    +1
    Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
    only now Germany were approximately equal in level, and Belarus would require money many times more than the Crimea

    Not quite equal. Germany was far ahead of the GDR in economic development, which subsequently greatly affected the integration process itself. Serious problems still exist in this matter and even time does not help to solve them ... hi
    1. Olezhek
      12 September 2018 10: 01
      -1
      Not exactly equal. Germany is far ahead of the GDR in economic development


      How to say: the GDR was a completely prosperous independent country (that is, it did not live on Soviet loans)
      As part of the Sovbloka, she was quite a successful project, and Czechoslovakia

      Belarus is poverty, debt and subsidies.
      This is not near the GDR.
      (in which there was no official Russophobia in 80, in contrast to the modern RB)
      1. Mentor
        Mentor 12 September 2018 10: 42
        +6
        Of course, I apologize, you read the thoughts of the President of the Republic of Belarus and proudly look around the whole of Belarus ... I do not possess such abilities, therefore I do not see official Russophobia point blank. I observe Belarusian-phobia, but this is your business.
        1. Olezhek
          14 September 2018 08: 28
          -1
          I do not possess such abilities, therefore I don’t see the official Russophobia in the focus.


          Yeah, Ukrainian political observers and commentators had similar vision problems, right up to the shelling of Slavyansk.
  37. Slon_on
    Slon_on 12 September 2018 11: 27
    +6
    Many acts of Lukashenka in foreign policy, especially in the sphere of relations between the allied states, cause me, to put it mildly, perplexity. Nevertheless, the article contains elements of provocation in order to drive a wedge between the fraternal peoples. In particular, regarding the incident with the "skakuas" during the football match Belarus - San Marino, the video was posted by Radio Liberty (says a lot), there were ~ 100
    14 fans who ignored the demoniacs. Moreover, among the ultras there were "guest performers" from Petushiny Ugl - Lviv. At the end of the match, the riot police packed up especially zealous
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 13 September 2018 00: 08
      +2
      Here is a normal adequate comment, thanks.
    2. Olezhek
      14 September 2018 08: 29
      -1
      hopped was ~ xnumx of
      14 000 fans who ignored the possessed.


      In Ukraine, too, so it began ...
      A big and categorical request is not worth telling.
  38. vtnsk
    vtnsk 12 September 2018 13: 34
    -2
    Quote: Radrygess
    You do not already know what "finger" to suck out. You rivet articles, try to pull some arguments, but each article comes down to one thing - oil.

    What does oil have to do with it? If you can refute the facts stated in the article, then do it, pliz. Otherwise, the post will be empty rhetoric in the style of "but you yourself ..." ... hi
  39. vtnsk
    vtnsk 12 September 2018 13: 46
    +1
    Quote: Rurikovich
    Quote: pru-pavel
    Good bridges in the USSR were built for 40 years and did not break.

    laughing laughing laughing All five bridges with which problems arose (with a box-like structure of spans) were built ... drumming! ... in the times of the Soviet Union, before the 91 year hi wink

    The railway bridge in Novosibirsk (Transsiberian) was built in 1893. It still stands and trains run continuously ... hi
  40. vtnsk
    vtnsk 12 September 2018 14: 02
    -1
    Quote: Rurikovich

    But this is already a speech of a displeased schoolboy! yes Once again for the gifted - study the materiel!
    I will explain briefly. The technology was developed at the end of the late USSR, as a replacement for expensive metal bridges. The design was based on extremely stretched cables of a certain section, flooded with concrete. By the way, the Ostankino television tower was built using the same technology. Those. in cross-section, a box with retracted cables in concrete instead of reinforcement was obtained .. This design is lighter than pure concrete and less expensive compared to metal... But the examination found out that the pouring of concrete was not of high quality, moisture accumulated in the places of the caverns, which caused corrosion with subsequent destruction ("Hello" to perestroika). As a result, together with the dramatically increased cargo flow and the mass of heavy vehicles to the places of corrosion, there was a rupture of the carrying ropes from subsequent deformation of the structure. For reference - according to the information of the designers, the bridge was designed for road trains with a gross weight of not more than 30 tons. Now the Olshansk trucks - 40 tons, timber trucks - 55-65 tons, crushed stone carriers from quarries - 70-75 tons. Moreover, the latter walked in columns! And believe me (tested on your own skin) while on the bridge, when passing a column of 5-6 such road trains, the bridge loosened with a decent amplitude yes ! These are the heavyweights and "killed" him. While half of the bridge consists of conventional bridge T-beams. They don't care about such weights. But there is no box structure at all - it gave way in all five bridges. If there was only one, then we could talk about poor service. But FIVE !!! This, Olezhka has already been proven, because your fantasies only bring a smile wink And I talked with comrades from research institutes that examined our bridge, and I believe them more than your fantasies

    Sorry, but this does not correspond to the real facts.
    1. The technology of prestressed concrete (which is exactly what it is called correctly) has been known for a very long time. And its application was associated with the goal of increasing the bearing capacity of structures of buildings and structures with an increased span, which include bridge structures.
    2. Bridge structures (spans) from prestressed concrete are never made at a construction site (the location of the bridge). They always have factory manufacturing due to the complexity of manufacturing technology.
    3. The example of the Ostankino TV tower is incorrect due to the differences in the "operation" (operation) of its structure in comparison with the bridge ones. And the reinforcement cage also has a place to be there!
    This is, in short. You can still explain a lot, but the material can be brought to another article ...
    Sincerely, a graduate of the University of Transport Construction in 1986 (VUS 170202 - commander of the bridge platoon of the railway troops of the USSR) ... hi
    PS About the construction and operation of bridges (flyovers, pontoons, etc.), I shouldn't fill in "fairy tales"!
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  41. vtnsk
    vtnsk 12 September 2018 15: 14
    +1
    Quote: Olezhek
    Not exactly equal. Germany is far ahead of the GDR in economic development


    How to say: the GDR was a completely prosperous independent country (that is, it did not live on Soviet loans)
    As part of the Sovbloka, she was quite a successful project, and Czechoslovakia

    Belarus is poverty, debt and subsidies.
    This is not near the GDR.
    (in which there was no official Russophobia in 80, in contrast to the modern RB)

    Comparison of the GDR was with Germany (and not in favor of the first in terms of economic development), but not with Belarus ... hi
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  43. AshiSolo
    AshiSolo 12 September 2018 17: 44
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    Epic =) Reminds how Americans laugh at a video with jambs of mechanical drives on the T-72, completely ignoring rain from hammers and other vidos =)
  44. AshiSolo
    AshiSolo 12 September 2018 17: 53
    +1
    Quote: vtnsk
    Quote: Rurikovich
    Quote: pru-pavel
    Good bridges in the USSR were built for 40 years and did not break.

    laughing laughing laughing All five bridges with which problems arose (with a box-like structure of spans) were built ... drumming! ... in the times of the Soviet Union, before the 91 year hi wink

    The railway bridge in Novosibirsk (Transsiberian) was built in 1893. It still stands and trains run continuously ... hi

    So they did not build in the Union =) Jokes, jokes, but "five-year plans in four years" and others like them, had a very serious impact on quality. And we still haven't eradicated it. They write: "We'll open it by November 7", but it happened by chance. And why not by the 8th, no one will explain =)))
  45. acetophenone
    acetophenone 12 September 2018 20: 58
    +3
    Let us recall what Vladimir Ilyich Lenin said / wrote on a similar issue. Namely:
    Before uniting, and in order to unite, we must first decisively and definitely separate ourselves. Otherwise, our unification would be only a fiction, covering up the existing confusion and preventing its radical elimination.
  46. Note 2
    Note 2 13 September 2018 03: 30
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    Good article! It should also be recalled how unscrupulous Lukashenko sold ammunition to Syrian terrorists.
    1. Mentor
      Mentor 13 September 2018 08: 04
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      Remind me, please, when it was, and be so kind as a link too.
      1. ship
        ship 14 September 2018 03: 09
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        Not only sold, but also trained in Belarus and please do not beg for links.
        1. Mentor
          Mentor 14 September 2018 07: 42
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          Familiar training manual. This was also accused Ceausescu. And generally speaking, shipDo not tell me what I should do, and I will not break the rules by explaining where you need to go.
          PS And apparently I will not wait for any confirmation, because fakes are never confirmed.
          1. Olezhek
            14 September 2018 08: 25
            +2


            How Belarusian weapons on $ 100 million fell to jihadists in Syria
            Read more: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2017/08/30/kak-belorusskoe-oruzhie-na-100-mln-popalo-k-dzhihadistam-v-sirii
            Learn ...
            1. Olezhek
              14 September 2018 08: 40
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              The American edition of Buzzfeed led contractor Mike Doherty on a Belarusian business trip: “The day after arrival, a car drove them (contract) to a nondescript warehouse on the outskirts of Minsk. There, a Belarusian who spoke in English told them about the Konkart ATKM and showed a rocket simulator showing how to charge and shoot. On the second night of their stay in Minsk, a Belarusian businessman who seemed to be an official invited me to dinner. There, the guests of the restaurant, who were sitting at a big table, were told to take other tables so that the Americans and the receiving party could drink vodka and say toasts to their countries.


              Katori in the gaiters .. let's argue - I'm a hundred maitres and you're point-blank ..

              Dear, you are certainly in the know about the trip
              - For what though toasts raised?
              tell me ...
              1. Mentor
                Mentor 14 September 2018 14: 21
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                Olezhek, I offer you my deepest apologies. It is useless to argue with believers, and unfortunately I got involved in a stupid argument. The facts you cited did not convince me. I agree that the information from this agency may constitute a reason for investigation, but nothing more. "Perhaps", "Maybe" and "It follows from this" ... Schizophrenic logic. And the revelations of a man who said to himself that he was a special forces soldier only made me laugh. This is a literary scenario of a category B trash action movie. According to the scriptwriters, this is how officials in totalitarian countries should behave ... In general, one-on-one, with the adventures of breastfeeding feminists in Minsk. the same author.
                In general, I apologize again, I do not want to argue with your faith.
                1. ship
                  ship 14 September 2018 22: 45
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                  ".. Schizophrenic logic .." - thanks for your impeccable assessment dear comrade Mentor (Alexander Kulkin). Write more, but you may not. (I don't want to tell you anything, so as not to offend you.)
            2. Enemy
              Enemy April 18 2019 17: 56
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              but nothing surprising. The Byalorussians are not part of the Russian world, and even more so Russia. Moreover, they, like the Ukrainians, are independent. And this is hatred of Russia. So in this way, "allies" shit on us
  47. tezey
    tezey 13 September 2018 14: 41
    +4
    Of course it is very unfortunate that relations between Russia and Belarus are arriving in a crisis. But this is not our choice. President Lukashenko undoubtedly has certain achievements in domestic politics in comparison with other independent countries of the post-Soviet space. But only that. Like other republics, the economy of Belarus was integrated into the general economy of the USSR. It was in the post-war era that all the main engineering industries of the republic were created, which Lukashenko is now proud of. This is not his merit, it is the merit of the peoples of the USSR and of course the people of Belarus. But President Lukashenko, having an excellent economic reserve from the era of the USSR, as we see, failed to cope with the task of developing his own country. Yes, and could not cope by definition. One thing is the development of Belarus as part of the socialist economy of the USSR, another thing is the development of a small state in a capitalist environment. It must be admitted that Belarus has no way out. Or it focuses on Russia in politics and economics and receives appropriate preferences, or focuses on the EU with incomprehensible consequences. But in general with understandable. As usual. Closing of enterprises, population migration, market for EU goods. Does President Lukashenko understand this, if he hedgehog understands this, I think he understands. But there is also such a thirst for power. This thirst can outweigh everything. It hasn’t outweighed it yet, but its position on fundamental issues of Belarus’s foreign policy causes Russian rejection. Read all his latest performances. He is not an ally of Russia. Is that only in words and then not always. As I understand it, in the Kremlin, after a long patience, he is shown the door. And in the west nobody is going to open the door. There were enough of their problems and they sailed with Ukraine. What will happen next. We will see. However, Lukashenko no longer has any hope as a politician who knows how to equip his country. I would like very much, God forbid, Belarus did not repeat the Ukrainian Maidan and the devastation.
    1. Olezhek
      14 September 2018 07: 43
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      President Lukashenko undoubtedly has certain achievements in domestic policy in comparison with other independent countries of the post-Soviet space. But only


      They took place in the "glorious" era of the 90s

      Like other republics, the economy of Belarus was integrated into the general economy of the USSR. It was in the post-war era that all the main engineering industries of the republic were created, which Lukashenko is now proud of.


      Absolutely true - Belarus was the "assembly shop" of the USSR - without the USSR, all this was impossible by definition.

      The development of Belarus as part of the socialist economy of the USSR is one thing, the development of a small state in a capitalist environment is another matter.


      For some reason, Belarusians cannot understand precisely this - that there are two big differences here. An independent RB cannot work on the principle of the BSSR - this is impossible.

      or focused on the EU with

      But in general, with clear. As usual. Closing of enterprises, migration of population, sales market for EU goods.


      For some reason, Belarusians are extremely impressed by Lithuania, and with regard to the "Ukrainian version" there is no unequivocal denial ... well, if so ... a flag in his hand and a drum on his neck.
      We will not interfere


      As I understand it, in the Kremlin, after a long patience, they point to the door. And in the west, no one is going to open the door.


      This is this and that ... Honestly, the Belarusian elites "screwed up" by placing their bets on Lukashenko, they made a big mistake ....
      1. ship
        ship 14 September 2018 22: 58
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        In Belarus, the elite is only Lukashenka and people close to him, and the "Belarusian elites", who ..., "got pretty screwed up" in the Belarusian nature do not exist.
        Lukashenka can build all these "elites" and send them to the bunks in a marching step without question.
  48. malyvalv
    malyvalv 15 September 2018 07: 29
    -1
    Quote: Rurikovich
    show me a man who will randomly drill a whole outwardly monolith in order to find out if there is corrosion there or not.


    Recently, at the Vostochny cosmodrome, it was found out that there are caverns in the filling of the table with concrete. Now they will repair. New and fresh fill! There, of course, they did not drill because there are ultrasonic methods to determine this.
    Not checking bridges and overloading is a sure way to lose bridges. In our area, 5 workers at a truck weight checking station were put in jail for corruption this morning. The excess of trucks (in our area of ​​timber trucks) causes too much damage.
  49. Andrei_
    Andrei_ 15 September 2018 21: 10
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    Hello dear participants. I am from Minsk. I read this article with interest, just in case I looked out the window, it was a bit dark, but Belarusians with outstretched hands packing their suitcases for departure to permanent residence using boat transport (there were no bridges left) I DID NOT SEE! The Chinese are also not visible. I'd like to ask the author, Was he in Belarus (not even recently), but at least sometime? What is written in this article (from my point of view) is an attempt to build a series of negative facts drawn from the media into a logical chain. With the same success, I can write about the collapse of life in Venezuela (there is inflation of 1 million%) and everything is clear with them, I'm an expert! We have a LOT of problems and questions, but in the 90s we definitely were not stuck (I am 37 years old, I remember them). I often go to Russia, gentlemen, we have something to learn from each other! At least mutual respect!
    1. ship
      ship 16 September 2018 00: 04
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      The article that you read with interest Andrei is a provocative article. The author of the article, Comrade Yegorov, managed to "build a number of negative facts pulled out of the media into a logical chain," negative, but we note in general objective facts and such that there were so many comments that while you read to the last, it's time to get drunk.

      Belarusians with outstretched hand "you DIDN'T NOTE. I noticed.

      You noticed the relative well-being of the Belarusian people, but the fact that without direct and immediate long-term support of Russia this well-being might not have existed, you did not notice, you did not notice at least. And not only you. Therefore, the call for mutual respect against the background of official Russophobia in Belarus looks somehow, well, very interesting.

      "We have a LOT of problems and questions." It's clear who.
      Yes, more. Understanding of the 90s according to Egorov, it must be assumed, is something significantly different from the understanding of your Andrei 90s in Belarus.
      1. Andrei_
        Andrei_ 16 September 2018 00: 30
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        I think we have windows facing different directions)))) Although I’m not at all sure that you are from our street))) Sorry ....
        1. ship
          ship 16 September 2018 22: 25
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          Everyone chooses his own path and goes his own way, and this shows confidence that you do not have Andrei.
          An apology is accepted.