Why did they create the myth about the great writer-truth-worker Solzhenitsyn

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Why did they create the myth about the great writer-truth-worker Solzhenitsyn


10 years ago, 3 August 2008, the famous slanderer of Soviet civilization Alexander Solzhenitsyn passed away. Interestingly, this writer is loved both in the West and by the Russian authorities and pro-governmental media. The fact is that Solzhenitsyn portrayed the USSR as an “evil empire”, which was beneficial both to the Western masters, leading a thousand-year war against the Russian people, and to Westerners-liberals, who headed Russia in 1990-s and had to blacken and smear it in every possible way Union Therefore, a rather mediocre writer was promoted, his name was raised as the banner of the struggle against Soviet totalitarianism, and everything that he had written was declared pure truth.



Alexander Isaevich Solzhenitsyn was born on December 11 of 1918, in Kislovodsk, in a peasant family. In 1924, Solzhenitsyn's family moved to Rostov-on-Don, where the boy went to school. Literature began to get involved in high school, tried to force in essays and poetry. However, after school he entered the RSU in the Faculty of Physics and Mathematics. But, being a student, he did not leave his writing enthusiasm and wrote the first chapters of "August fourteenth".

At the beginning of World War II, he left for distribution with his wife in Morozovsk, where he worked as a teacher (for health reasons he was declared unfit for military service). But soldier Solzhenitsyn, unsuitable for military service, is in some mysterious way about which story is silent, got into an artillery school. Lieutenant Solzhenitsyn came to the front in the spring of 1943. He did not take direct part in battles and battles, as he commanded a sound reconnaissance battery. Apparently, Alexander Isayevich felt well at the front: he read and wrote a lot, he ate well. One fine day, Alexander Isaevich’s orderly, using false documents, brought Captain Solzhenitsyn’s wife out of the evacuation in Kazakhstan. Natalya Reshetovskaya with warmth recalls the time spent with her husband at the front: they walked a lot, read, took pictures, he taught her to shoot. Received awards: Order of the Patriotic War and the Red Star.

Shortly before the victory in 1945, Solzhenitsyn was arrested for correspondence - the captain was engaged in sending letters to the friends criticizing the commander-in-chief and the Soviet system and proposing to create conspiratorial "fives". Captain Solzhenitsyn could not know about the existence of military censorship and counterintelligence. In addition, Alexander Isaevich's childhood and youth friends Kirill Simonyan and Lidia Yezherets spoke of their friend's epistolary activity: “These letters did not correspond to our friend’s eternal cowardice — and Solzhenitsyn is the most cowardly person who ever knew — nor his caution , not even his worldview ... ”Conclusion Professor K. S. Simonyan made simple:“ He clearly saw, as indeed every one of us, that in conditions when victory is already predetermined, there is still a lot to go through, and it’s not excluded the possibility of death at the very goal . The only opportunity was to get to the rear. But how? ... To become a moral self-propelling was in this case for Solzhenitsyn the best way out. And from here and this stream of letters, silly political chatter ".

From the end of 1945 to 1953, he was imprisoned. "Stalin's bloody dungeons" for Solzhenitsyn were quite bearable. Here Alexander Isayevich himself describes his stay in the central political prison: “Ah, well, sweet life! Chess, books, spring beds, down pillows, solid mattresses, shiny linoleum, clean linen. Yes, I have long forgotten that I also slept like that before the war ... ”While enjoying the sweet life, Alexander Isaevich readily testified against his friends and even against his wife. However, only N. D. Vitkevich was seriously injured. Later, the rehabilitated Vitkevich was able to familiarize himself with his case and then found out that his childhood friend, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, wrote that Vitkevich “planned to create an underground subversive group, prepared violent changes in the party’s and government’s policy, and viciously ink Stalin’s ...”

After Lubyanka, there was New Jerusalem, then construction in Moscow, then Rybinsk, Zagorsk and, finally, Marfino, that is, Moscow again. And in Marfin - a pound of white bread a day, in Marfin - butter, any books, volleyball, music on the radio and work in the acoustic laboratory. In conclusion, the writer, according to a number of researchers, became an informant and a provocateur named Vetrov. From Marfin I went to the Ekibastuz camp, where I was a brigadier, worked as a bricklayer, then as a librarian. All this time he composed and kept verses in his memory in order to later put it on paper. He described the camp life in the novel "In the first circle" and the story "One Day of Ivan Denisovich."

After liberation, the writer was sent to live in southern Kazakhstan without the right to leave the village of Berlik. Solzhenitsyn worked there as a teacher of mathematics and physics. In 1956, the writer was rehabilitated, he was allowed to return from exile. He settled in the Vladimir region, then in Ryazan. For the first time, Solzhenitsyn's works were published in 1962 year in the journal “New World” - this was the story “One Day of Ivan Denisovich”. It is important to remember that just a few years ago the famous XX Congress of the CPSU, where N. S. Khrushchev debunked the personality cult of Stalin, took place. The debunking was accompanied by a big lie: Khrushchev, knowing that at the time of the death of his predecessor, about two million prisoners remained in the camps, said publicly about ten million. Since then, the theme of repression, great and bloody, has become the official weapons in the hands of all anti-Sovietists, and the West received an excellent information weapon against Soviet civilization. And it was worth saying about the advantages of the Soviet system, about how much the USSR gave to its citizens, how the crying about “one hundred millions of those executed” immediately began. Khrushchev began with ten million prisoners, and Solzhenitsyn went ahead and offered one hundred million, and not just prisoners, but destroyed (although there were simply not enough people in the USSR to calmly destroy 70-100 million, and the population continued to grow). Thus, Khrushchev and Solzhenitsyn repeated propaganda materials that Hitlerite ideologues also composed.

The theme of repression, which aroused many Soviet people in an aversion to their own state and a guilt complex, was actively used in the “cold war”. Those who considered Khrushchev a renegade and a traitor (in China, Albania), and those leftists in the West who still supported the Soviet system and the communist idea, began to turn away from the USSR. In the USSR itself, the rejection of the Soviet system was also gradually coming into fashion, especially given Khrushchev's “excesses” in the field of national security, national economy, culture, etc. Alexander Isaevich fell into this “wave”, and was noticed by the enemies of the Soviet civilization within Union and the West. After this, Solzhenitsyn began to work on the GULAG Archipelago. Solzhenitsyn, both in the USSR and in the West, is becoming the most fashionable, most famous writer.

However, soon the writer loses the disposition of the authorities (under Brezhnev, the criticism of the Stalin period was generally curtailed), he was forbidden to publish. But the matter has already been done, the author was promoted, and he was supported in the West. So, in 1970, a large group of French writers, scholars and artists nominated Alexander Isaevich for the Nobel Prize. Soon the prize was awarded. The novels “In the First Circle”, “Cancer Corps”, “GULAG Archipelago” were published abroad. For this, in the 1974 year, Solzhenitsyn was deprived of his Soviet citizenship and deported abroad. The author comfortably settled first in Switzerland, then in Canada, and then in the USA, on the estate behind the high fence. And the Americans were so able to unleash the image of the Gulag, that for many inhabitants all over the world, Russia to this day is strongly associated with some kind of bloody horrors, mass arrests and all-round executions of millions of people. The “archipelago ...” became one of the most prominent images of the USSR.

Russian schoolchildren are forced to study the GULAG Archipelago (although there are no literary merits or historical truth in the book). In this book, the terrible atrocities attributed to Stalin, surpassing all the atrocities of the German Nazis. Solzhenitsyn launched the myth of tens of millions repressed under Stalin (as many as 70 or even 100 million people!). The Americans, who sheltered Solzhenitsyn, did not dispute this lie, since they were waging a cold war (informational, ideological) against the USSR. The United States had to present the USSR as an "evil empire," which Solzhenitsyn helped.

Although one of the “think tanks” of the American empire, the analytical center of the CIA “Rand Corporation”, based on demographic data and archival documents, counted the number of repressed in the Stalin era. It turned out that for all the time when Stalin stood at the head of the country, 700 thousand people were shot. The same data is given in other studies of the Stalin era, the authors of which are not interested in personally denigrating Stalin and the USSR. At the same time, the share of those sentenced to an article on a political 58 article is not more than a quarter of cases. The same proportion was observed among imprisoned labor camps. Thus, the number of repressed in the Stalinist period is a hundred times less than it was attributed. This is confirmed by the data of demographic statistics, according to which, with the exception of the failure during the war, the population of the USSR all the time of Stalin’s rule increased steadily. For comparison: during the reign of the liberal-democratic rulers (Yeltsin, Putin and Medvedev), Russia's population is steadily declining, if not to say: dying out (so-called depopulation). Even worse is the situation with demographics in yet another "separatist" fragment of the USSR (Great Russia) - Ukraine-Little Russia, which is dying rapidly.

The second important conclusion from real statistics is that only a quarter of the repressed and prisoners can be considered victims of political repression, while the remaining three quarters were deserving of criminal offenses (it is worth remembering that at present, most people support the death penalty for murderers, rapists, drug dealers and other degenerates). And fans of Solzhenitsyn and others like him are all innocent victims.

Not everything is so simple with "political". Among them were the real "enemies of the people" who worked for the Western special services; Trotsky pests, dreaming to destroy the Soviet project; former executioners, employees of the Cheka – NKVD, whose hands themselves had blood in their elbows and which had been “stripped” of their organs; Vlasovists of various kinds, Bandera, Basmachis, “Forest Brothers”, that is, people who consciously fought against Soviet power. At the same time, we must not forget about the era that radically differed, say, from the peaceful and stable time of the Brezhnev reign. A terrible geopolitical catastrophe has just ended - the death of the Russian empire, turmoil and civil war. The Soviet project had many enemies both in Russia and abroad. Our external enemies tried to prepare the “fifth column” so that it would make a new “February” at a crucial moment. Thus, one of the main reasons for the defeat of Hitler's Third Reich was the fatal miscalculation: in Berlin, the USSR was considered a colossus on clay legs modeled on the Russian Empire 1914 – 1917. or Soviet Russia 1920's. The war was supposed to lead to the collapse of the USSR - a military rebellion, a palace coup and numerous uprisings in Ukraine, the Baltic states, the Caucasus and Central Asia. However, our enemies miscalculated, in the USSR they managed to withdraw most of the heterogeneous “fifth column”. During the years of “perestroika” and reforms, all those repressed in a crowd (both innocent and real enemies of the people) were recorded as “innocent victims” of Stalinism.

In 1991-1993 in Russia, the counter-revolution won; the opponents of the Soviet project, supporters of the western "matrix" - predatory capitalism, caste neo-feudalism, liberal social-Darwinism with the division of people into "successful and elected" and "losers", and "two-legged weapons" captured power. The Soviet project, which sought to build an ideal society of the future - a society of knowledge, service and creation with the domination of the ethics of conscience, destroyed. The western society of the “golden calf”, the society of consumption and self-destruction, received complete domination.

It is not surprising that such shifters like Solzhenitsyn received the green light in the new Russian society. In the name of Solzhenitsyn, contrary to the wishes of the majority of the people, they call the streets, erect monuments or plaques in the streets; his works are included in the compulsory school curriculum, and in the press they speak of him with aspiration as a brilliant writer, thinker of all times and peoples, a prophet and a brave truth-telltale.

Participated great provocateur and the collapse of the USSR. 18 September 1990 was published simultaneously in the Literary Gazette and Komsomolskaya Pravda an article by Solzhenitsyn, How to equip Russia. It includes both “Russia that we lost”, and false Russian philosophy (false “return to sources”, deceitful Great Russian nationalism), and getting rid of “ballast” in the form of the USSR republics, and breaking ties with the former socialist camp, and aggravating national relations, etc. In the same year, Solzhenitsyn was restored to Soviet citizenship with the subsequent termination of the criminal case, in December he was awarded the RSFSR State Prize for the “Gulag Archipelago”.

The writer was able to return to his homeland in 1994. In 2001-2002, his great work, “Two hundred years together,” was published. This is a literary and historical study by a writer of Russian-Jewish relations between the 1795 and 1995 years in two volumes.

It is interesting that at the end of his life the writer’s eyes begin to open up on the truth. In particular, in 1998, he was awarded the Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called, but refused the award: “I cannot accept the award from the sovereign power that has brought Russia to its current disastrous state.” In the same year, he published a voluminous historical-journalistic essay “Russia in a fall”, containing reflections on the changes that took place in Russia in the 1990-s and on the situation of the country in which he sharply condemned the reforms carried out by the Yeltsin-Gaidar-Chubais government.

In April, 2006, answering questions from the Moscow news", Solzhenitsyn said:" NATO is methodically and aggressively developing its military apparatus - to the East of Europe and to the continental coverage of Russia from the South. Here there is an open material and ideological support for "color" revolutions, and a paradoxical introduction of North Atlantic interests in Central Asia. All this leaves no doubt that the complete encirclement of Russia is being prepared, and then the loss of its sovereignty. ”

Died Alexander Solzhenitsyn 3 August 2008 year in Moscow.
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  1. +35
    3 August 2018 05: 20
    Why did they create the myth of the Pravdorub Solzhenitsyn? They wanted to exalt what a liberal fighter !!!!!! And there was no other candidate among all the traitors !!!! No one else suited this role. Of the living.
    1. +56
      3 August 2018 05: 27
      What is interesting is that all those who are liberals for saints, upon closer examination, stink extremely ... And this is a fact ... And Solzhenitsyn is the most smelly of all.
      1. +37
        3 August 2018 06: 13
        And that this Solzhenitsyn was the only one? Khrushchev needed those who were loud and * not afraid of sin * didn’t spit in those whom they pointed to. They regularly paid for it. As soon as they promised to pay in foreign currency, he immediately became * anti-communist *.
        I’m ready to serve anyone for payment, over in Ukraine it was revealed in such an unsightly form that nothing but disgust is already.
        And in RUSSIA they either heroize Yudenich, Kolchak or Mannerheim, and so does Vlasov reach the turn? And then what?
        1. +8
          3 August 2018 08: 30
          Quote: Vasily50
          and so does Vlasov reach the line? And then what?

          Tried already. A few years ago, the topic of the "savior of Moscow" and almost Russia was very popular ... until the people became sick of it.
        2. +12
          4 August 2018 08: 30
          Already reached ... Vlasovism in Russia is now not a symbol of betrayal, but a "social protest against Stalinist tyranny." Kirill Alexandrov already defended his doctoral dissertation on this topic !!!
          1. +3
            4 August 2018 09: 19
            You may ask, how fresh is the information? I heard that the decision of the council was canceled by the Higher Attestation Commission.
            1. +14
              4 August 2018 10: 18
              Yes, the Higher Attestation Commission later quashed the decision to defend, but the fact of defending this doctoral dissertation whitening Vlasov region speaks volumes. And yet, the defense of the candidate dissertation by this pseudo-historian, on a similar topic, has not been canceled .....
              1. +2
                4 August 2018 10: 52
                Thanks for the information, I downloaded this, as it were, doctorate at our leisure ...
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                2. +5
                  4 August 2018 20: 43
                  Quote: kitt409
                  Thanks for the information, I downloaded this, as it were, doctorate at our leisure ...
                  it’s good that they didn’t count the doctorate. But in YouTube it’s full of its plots, here, probably, a crap !!!!! There is no time to watch! It’s better at leisure that it’s useful to watch and listen .. and so I don’t have time.
                  1. +1
                    4 August 2018 21: 18
                    You are probably right, but it’s a little easier for me that is called on dissertations and the like is full of hands)) so there is experience, and it is unlikely to take much time ...
                    Thanks for the advice!
          2. +7
            4 August 2018 23: 41
            Quote: Greg Miller
            Kirill Alexandrov already defended his doctoral dissertation on this topic !!!

            Not everything is so sad. On May 29, 2017, the Expert Council of the Higher Attestation Commission did not support the award of the degree of Doctor of Science to Kirill Alexandrov [12] [13]. On July 26, 2017, the Deputy Minister of Education and Science of Russia G.V. Trubnikov signed an order to annul the decision of the SPbII Dissertation Council on awarding Alexander the degree of Doctor of Science. But the truth is that a significant part of the creative intelligentsia is struck by Russophobic liberalism.
      2. +33
        3 August 2018 08: 06
        One day, Ivan Denisovich from the point of view of artistic value, literature - is nothing of itself. Why Twardowski needed to print such nonsense, such trifling literature, is not clear. The rise of Solzhenitsyn began with Tvardovsky, which was later picked up by Khrushchev's henchmen, who needed a literary symbol confirming the "infamy of the Stalinist regime." In this, just Solzhenitsyn succeeded a lot.
        Solzhenitsyn’s works had some value in a closed Union, now they are of no value either from an artistic or historical point of view: a poor literary language with a lot of expressions distorting the normative Russian language, it’s sometimes difficult to perceive what was read due to an inverted thought, the insignificance of the textured material ... And all this is Solzhenitsyn. Historians, literary critics, specialists in the Russian language could write more than one dissertation on the analysis of the works of Solzhenitsyn ... Unfortunately, those who wish are not visible ...
        The inclusion of Solzhenitsyn's literature in the list of compulsory school literature should be seen on the liberal side as a big victory over traditional school education. Each of the liberals who attached themselves to this, proudly pronounces his name in liberal gatherings, in the circle of associates, in the kitchen with relatives, and amuses himself with the reliability of receiving such a trick, well, at least a small medal, and even the order would generally be great pride, just like Solzhenitsyn’s.
        The task of the patriots of Russia is to achieve the destruction of such literature from the school course of public education. Such literature has a place in the garbage can of history; experts must study it in order to draw the right conclusions and determine how a traitor of the Russian people is born out of a Russian person.
        The public education of our children must be cleansed of the abominations of the traitors of the Motherland and Russia.

        "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A united people, a strong state, a prosperous Fatherland that cannot be broken by internal and external enemies.
        1. +1
          3 August 2018 12: 44
          Are you ready to teach Twardowski in literature? bully Do not voice your achievements in this area? feel
          1. +21
            3 August 2018 15: 16
            Twardowski Pravodedel did not teach. The truth-maker asked the question - Why did Twardowski need to print such nonsense?
            Do you have an answer? wink
            Or so, you showed that you know how to knock on the keyboard. laughing
            ps Why did you deign to write the sentence with a small letter? Are you protesting? lol
            1. 0
              3 August 2018 15: 43
              1) I have an answer: Twardowski appreciated the level of the story, both artistic and civil. bully
              2) I am always amused by the desire to switch to the personality or literacy of the opponent when the mind is not enough to find arguments ... bully
          2. 0
            8 August 2018 15: 09
            And what does Tvardovsky’s achievement in literature have to do with it? It is about the fact that he gave a ticket to life to the graphomaniac and the slanderer Solzhenitsyn.
            Because after the 20th (1956) and 21st (1962) congresses, the topic of personality cult was ON TOP.
            And then a nugget is at hand, and even from the zone!
            True, Solzhenitsyn Tvardovsky later robustly "thanked".
            Described in detail in “Butting a Calf with an Oak”, how Tvardovsky drank, puked, howled, etc.
            And in general, they say, he is stupid.
            Such is the truth-teller.
            But, in my opinion, to repent of other people's sins is not a confession, but a denunciation.
        2. +14
          3 August 2018 13: 24
          It seems to me that they pressed on Twardowski, and therefore printed it. Khrushchev really needed a similar type.
          I have long read the letters of Twardowski, in which he complained how difficult it was for him, without naming specifically anyone.
          1. -1
            8 August 2018 15: 16
            Well, why did they crush it?
            Solzhenitsyn describes in detail the whole intrigue.
            Someone told the editor of the New World Tvardovsky (the mouthpiece of the creative intelligentsia) about the brilliant mathematician, combat officer and the victim of political repression, a writer who is unable to publish his "imperishable".
            Grabbing the manuscript, Twardowski rushed to Khrushchev.
            Let me remind you that Twardowski was a member of the CPSU Central Committee.
            And there’s such a splurge against Stalin — in color. This is not a stupid speech from the rostrum.
            Published in the next issue of the magazine.
            ..... "And he woke up famous."
        3. 0
          3 August 2018 21: 23
          People-State-Fatherland
          you have an interesting position, you spit on one part of the people, and then write about a united people - this is a diagnosis
          1. +2
            4 August 2018 15: 16
            exactly! a person wants to walk at the head of a system ... laughing
        4. +5
          4 August 2018 16: 16
          What can I say, this scribbler has a surname that says: So (jointly) False (lying, bearing a lie) and the family ending -nitsyn.
          1. +5
            4 August 2018 18: 53
            About 86 years old, my grandfather spoke of Solzhenitsyn as a vile slanderer and liar. He said so - and the name of this freak is so accurate - Solzhenitsyn.
            10 years after this conversation, I got acquainted with the works of Solzhenitsyn. But at that time he understood little, liked it.
            1. 0
              11 August 2018 21: 07
              And someone could not step over this level and is still looking for what they hide all around and everywhere.
              and people like Solzhenitsyn discover the truth.
              1. +1
                11 August 2018 21: 14
                Quote: Red_Baron
                and people like Solzhenitsyn discover the truth.

                Walking over the heads of others. To me, personally, the position of Vladimir Semyonovich is much closer: "I have many questions for our government, but I will not discuss this with you."
        5. +1
          5 August 2018 00: 02
          Quote: The Truth
          Why Twardowski needed to print such nonsense, such trifling literature, is not clear.

          to evaluate the artistic value of someone’s scribble is not a thankful and useless affair. Talent, especially artistic, cannot be clearly defined by any understandable criteria, and therefore there are a lot of opportunities for manipulation and speculation in this matter. But the lie has more specific forms. Read the "Prussian nights" and it will become clear why the stinking wave periodically rises about the raped Germany.
      3. +15
        3 August 2018 09: 25
        I agree with you. Sakharov, with all his kooky, amid this nits a real angel.
      4. +2
        6 August 2018 20: 37
        Quote: Vard
        And Solzhenitsyn is the most smelly of all


        If not the most, then one of the most stinking. Just disgusting! The fact that, on the orders of overseas owners, drove a wedge between the peoples of the USSR and Russia - sowed ethnic hatred in order to cause the same chaos and war in the whole territory of Eurasia as they did in the Caucasus - only for this his name should be put to shame. He is not only an anti-Soviet - he is an enemy of the Russian people. and all other peoples of the USSR
    2. +24
      3 August 2018 08: 10
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Why did they create the myth of the Pravdorub Solzhenitsyn? They wanted to exalt what a liberal fighter !!!!!! And there was no other candidate among all the traitors !!!!

      Why did they create the myth of the truth-teller, Khrushchev, Yeltsin, the West - it is understandable! But why did Vladimir Vladimirovich support this myth ??

      EBN opened the Yeltsin Center, and Solzhenitsyn opened several museums across the country as an "outstanding" writer, Nobel Prize winner in the field of literature.
      1. +12
        3 August 2018 08: 33
        Quote: Stas157
        Why did they create the myth of the truth-teller, Khrushchev, Yeltsin, the West - it is understandable! But why did Vladimir Vladimirovich support this myth ??

        Why is it clear in relation to some, and incomprehensible in relation to VV? What's the Difference? Is he in power and alive ?!winked
      2. +23
        3 August 2018 09: 26
        One company, alas!
        1. +9
          3 August 2018 13: 58
          And if you still think about the wailing wall, and about all sorts of other places where to cry and repent .... yes, they want to install a plank for Nemtsov! And why they say much less about specific people, youth, children who died, tortured by the Nazis, White Guards, Japanese .....
          Well, Stolypin is a hero, since you can’t find others either, like Witte’s name, they called something ... you need to clarify ...
      3. 0
        6 August 2018 20: 40
        Not at all. GDP is not with them. This is understandable. He, like "Ivan Kalita" was supposed to maneuver and hide. Until Munich, he tried to find a compromise with the USA, NATO and the Fed (that is, with the liberals). Then he realized that there would be no compromise and would push to the last and went on the defensive
    3. +2
      3 August 2018 22: 19
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Why did they create the myth of the Pravdorub Solzhenitsyn? They wanted to exalt what a liberal fighter !!!!!! And there was no other candidate among all the traitors !!!! No one else suited this role. Of the living.

      Now they are creating a myth from other truth-seekers.
      What's the difference?
      I have never read Solzhenitsen. But on the last wave I downloaded "Gulag". Read Honestly, I will say through a sheet - two, dwelling a little on the points that interested me.
      If we omit his calculations about the hundreds of millions of dead - then everything else is completely true.
      I remember the stories of Mom born in 1925 Kazakhstan. And the Pope, born in 1928 Kuban. And no one will convince me. Yes, the time was hard.
      But Solzhenitsyn exaggerated once a hundred.
      But there were many that were .....
      1. +7
        4 August 2018 00: 34
        Quote: Ecilop
        If we omit his calculations about the hundreds of millions of dead - then everything else is completely true.

        You see, when you read it, it seems that almost half the country, the Stalinist regime has planted for no reason. But in reality, during the period from 36 to 55, 1,065% of the total population was sitting.
        1. +3
          4 August 2018 13: 54
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          when you read it, it seems that almost half the country, the Stalinist regime put in no way

          Quote: Ecilop
          Solzhenitsyn exaggerated once a hundred.

          Similarly. I tried to read his "works", to be honest - I did not master. Everything is too gloomy ... one-sided somehow ... and unrealistic. It was such an impression - half of the country was sitting and the other half in fear was waiting for being planted for no reason. Hopelessness. Not the best time, of course, but ... bust. On the other hand, his works are kind of like art, and they should not be taken as documentary evidence. In general, as they say - the taste and color of all the markers are different ...
          1. +5
            4 August 2018 15: 42
            region58. Starting from 1917 and according to one data to 1922 according to other 1923. It was civilian. But the hunt for the class element did not stop in 30. In the period from 1914 to 1922, the gross output of Russian industry decreased 7 times. The stocks of raw materials and supplies by the 1920 year were exhausted. Strikes of workers, uprisings of peasants and sailors began. It was like the end of 80x and the beginning of 90x. Even worse. Soviet prisons, as convinced us that there were many. Were crowded. But who doesn’t charge this to Yeltsin. from 20x to mid-30x, the country survived. Measures were taken by Europe and America to strangle the USSR. The country was forbidden to pay an obligation or money. Only grain and cultural values. Which only aggravated the situation in the country and led to dispossession and starvation from 1927 to 1934. It was especially hard from 1931 to 1933. The growth of crime is going through the roof. The people drove en masse to the cities from the villages. That only contributed to the deterioration, since there was no work and most importantly nutrition. Many convicted under political articles, in reality for criminal offenses. And all this is multiplied by the situation in the country, and most importantly by pressure from outside, which is not talked about. The USSR was choking on intelligence from a number of countries. In the east, Japan, in the west, Germany, England and others. The USA also played their game. But historians blamed all the grief on the repressions, which of course were. hi
            1. +2
              4 August 2018 18: 03
              Quote: megavolt823
              But historians blamed all the grief on the repressions, which of course were.

              He was interested in that period (twenties - thirties) - there are many contradictions in the sources, very many. Such a tangle then got confused - Mama Do not Cry ... perhaps much worse than in the Middle East now ... And yet - for some reason, for some reason we often directly transfer our presentations and outlooks on life to other times, including at that time, which in my opinion is fundamentally wrong. Then both humanism and pluralism and other concepts, I think, were very different from today. Sometimes a thought flickers: maybe it could not be otherwise?
        2. 0
          11 August 2018 21: 18
          And you can not read it - a few years ago on some show there were three magnificent people, Gudkov Sr., Tigran Keosayan and someone else. So with all on one of the central channels, Keosayan said that under Stalin a third of the country's population was seated, a third were guarded and another third were connected with the first.
          Before the elections to the Duma, Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky launched his train through the cities, where he also dismissed his stories about Stalin and the victims of his repressions. On television, hesitated to lie even when historians pressed him with facts and figures.
          You can also take the well-known incident on the radio when Svanidze and Maxim Shevchenko were discussing, where in response to each statement and justification of the lies, Svanidze accused his opponent of being a Stalinist and then attacked Shevchenko in general with his fists.
      2. +4
        4 August 2018 08: 04
        So who says it wasn’t? The question is that all this is too bloated ...
      3. +5
        4 August 2018 11: 16
        Solzhenitsyn - petty vain scum, fate and evil forces exalted to Olympus traitors!
        Yes, there were a lot of things, but, as it turned out, as the present time in Russia proves, is clearly not enough.
    4. +3
      4 August 2018 07: 22
      There was another truth-seeker .. his name was Sakharov .. there was no less harm from this liar talker .. appeal to Congress. USA to introduce Jackson’s amendment, Sakharov calls on the United States, the West under no circumstances to agree to any restrictions on the arms race, and continue to develop “first-strike weapons” in order to have superiority over his homeland .. And when he returned from Gorky .. he completely got out of his hands .. the accuser .. from him .. with his chatter at meetings of the Supreme Council did not know how to get rid of .
      1. +1
        4 August 2018 12: 31
        Dear VN! I wrote a lot of comments on the topic of influence agents, etc. There is a series "Sleeping" where in the game genre a little bit explain how and why. There are agents we will conventionally call them "GRAMPHONES" their task is to impose an opinion on repeating and voicing. There are different roles in undercover activities. Find stupid and scolded by power. Provide moral and financial support. And give an opportunity to sound a claim. Here you have the agent. Earlier in the USSR, this was the only way to leave and get support in the host country. And many took advantage of this. Getting state secrets is important. But it’s much more important to be able to influence the opponent’s state. It does not make sense to seek the truth here. The logic is not obvious, since only a fragment is visible. hi
        1. +1
          4 August 2018 12: 37
          megavolt823 (Vladislav) 4 16 June 2018 11: 56 | 47 ronin of our farm
          Sergei ! you don’t quite understand what you are looking at. to recruit and use a person in propaganda is a very difficult task. and difficult to control. much more important (crowd of influence), different people who at first glance are nonsense. but they state theses. like in an advertisement. the main thing is that the person remembers the picture. dad with son, two lovers. bright picture, sensual scene. or a clear slogan. 2-3 words. and it's like a parasite. sitting somewhere in the subconscious. here the main thing is which audience is influenced (whom we will reel). it's either a female audience from 30 to 45. either male. senior citizens or pioneers. crowd control. but it’s not much more complicated. the population is charged with discontent. little by little . thesis after thesis. it's like (value added). when some pants cost 5 p. and other 10 p. brand, advertising, association caused. all this (opposition), only at first glance they don’t tell specifics. one singing along to the crowd about real issues. another fastens victims not freedom. so hatred, fear and others are formed. while advertising and trade evoke love and hope, then in another they cause fear, depression and disorientation. hi
          1. +1
            4 August 2018 12: 39
            megavolt823 (Vladislav) 4 16 June 2018 13: 15 | 47 ronin of our farm
            Sergei ! the whole question is that we are all one way or another. past age, life experience, gender and religion. propaganda products. this can be argued. even our eyes lie to our brains. and using it, magicians make money. distraction, the play of light and shadow, sleight of hand. we are so arranged. one who carries the truth on the one hand loves some and hates others. and who says the essence of the issue is not listening. he is not interesting. Yes, and to say the essence of the issue is dangerous. this can interfere with one, and cause yawning in others. your lower limbs will be torn off and everything will be .... on you. propaganda is different. it can whitewash and blacken. distract attention. sincere, maybe even something wrong analysis, no one does. there is a lot of frustration. but it is not for sale and does not move where. here Malachovs dance on TV with sentimental dirty linen for housewives and pensioners. and for youth, talk about the forbidden fruit from the 2 house. about relationships before intercourse. the executioners of our reasoning dance like Svanidze, Dorenko, Parthenov. on the sixth principle of goebels. write history textbooks. where the revolution is falsely described but much time is devoted to it. but the king’s abdication in passing. propaganda pervades us from the hospital to the morgue. defining our preferences, hobbies and making choices. hi megavolt823
            1. +2
              4 August 2018 12: 40
              megavolt823 (Vladislav) 4 16 June 2018 12: 31 | 47 ronin of our farm
              This is a very complex mechanism. it is not aimed specifically at anyone. it is aimed at all at once. I sometimes, to understand a person, I start a dispute. I choose a losing position. and listen to how the person will argue. here it becomes clear from where the information got into his head. OPINION !!!!! it is not an experience. this is information that lies in the head of a person. and if this information is correctly laid out, it will not work to replace it, erase it by 100%. EXAMPLE I introduce you to a girl. Do you like her . after meeting I talk about her different crap. she makes excuses you believe her. start living with her. but at different points what I told you will come up. in disputes you will argue with what I told you. maybe specifically with you this trick will not work. but if I did this with a hundred people? everyone has a different perception. and cockroaches in psychology. even if my propaganda will be successful only on 40%. THIS IS THE RESULT !!!! I managed to influence 40% of the country's population. hi
              First principle
              There should be a lot of propaganda, a lot. It must be dumped into the masses continuously, day and night, in all territorial points simultaneously. There is no excess of propaganda, since the people are able to absorb only the information that they will repeat thousands of times.
              Second principle
              The ultimate simplicity of any message. This is necessary then, so that even the most backward individual will be able to realize what he has heard or read: if a fighter of the assisting team cope with the information, the school teacher will digest it even more so. But the more people accept something, the easier it will be to cope with the rest: even the most advanced minority will be forced to follow the majority.
              Third principle
              The maximum uniformity of clear, concise, whip messages. “We can and should propagandize our slogan from various sides, but the result should be the same, and the slogan must invariably be repeated at the end of each speech, each article.”
              Fourth principle
              No differentiations: propaganda should not allow to doubt, hesitate, consider various options and possibilities. People should not have a choice, because it has already been made for them, and they should only understand and then accept the information, so that later they will already perceive the imposed ideas as their own.
              Fifth principle
              Act mainly on the senses and only to the smallest degree appeal to the brain. Do you remember? Propaganda is not a science. But it helps to bring a crowd of thousands to emotions - and to twist ropes from this crowd. And the mind is useless.
              Sixth principle
              Shock and falsehood are the two pillars on which perfect propaganda rests. If people are led to this or that thought gradually, slowly, there will not be a proper result. If you lie on the little things - too. Therefore, information should be bewitching, because only shocking messages are manic transmitted from mouth to mouth. Adequate information goes unnoticed.
              Summary
              Be careful: the Goebbels case, as history shows, does not die. Never forget the main principle of counteracting manipulations: filter everything that you see and hear, and you will be free. At least - from dangerous prejudices ..
              megavolt823
              1. +2
                11 August 2018 22: 12
                Allow me, I do not agree with everything.
                Quote: megavolt823
                OPINION !!!!! it is not an experience. this is information that lies in the head of a person. and if this information is set correctly, replace it, erase 100% will not work.

                To do this, first create a background. That on it this information was generally perceived. For example, expressions about the opponent’s mother are now popular among young people. Not everyone believes that this man really slept with his mother. Rather, almost no one believes.
                Quote: megavolt823
                even if my propaganda is only 40% successful. THIS IS THE RESULT !!!! I managed to influence 40% of the country's population

                40% of the information will work on one person - but you used a personal approach. This means that on others, if it works, it will be far from 40%. But I understood what you mean, if the information is not personal then yes.
                Quote: megavolt823
                The ultimate simplicity of any message. This is necessary then, so that even the most backward individual will be able to realize what he has heard or read: if a fighter of the assisting team cope with the information, the school teacher will digest it even more so.

                I do not agree. You know these words: “You can cheat part of the people all the time. You can fool all the people for a while. But you can’t lie to the whole people all the time. "
                The teacher is most likely to understand the fallacy or envy of the messages.

                Quote: megavolt823
                Summary

                I read it several times and realized what you were writing about. This effect is short. That is what was done in Ukraine. In Syria, but there are many more. But still, this requires a background and processing for many years subtly and accurately.
                But as far as I see now everything is somewhat simpler and finer.
                Initially, the weakest and most fragile minds are captured. This is for children. Various communities are being created, large ones, where there is a large flow of children, even just out of boredom. Interest is created. In this community, authors under the guise of users post articles, jokes, stories, users connect. And the necessary information is always introduced. I myself was in such a community - one very popular site among young people and found there a lot of useful information for myself, but I can't stay for a long time, I always try to object to wild statements and the crowd comes running with minuses and shouts of Kremlin bots and so on. Moreover, users are ALWAYS sure that a new meme or idea was introduced or remembered by themselves. For example, there were well-known events when some villains attracted children to rallies. Then the confrontation between children and parents began sharply. Everywhere the words began to be used - yazhem, they are children, and everyone was filled with stories in which the essence was the same. You don't need to listen to your parents. mothers are stupid and so on. And reading every day you see how the concentration of this is being pumped up. As a result, we get biomass at the exit, which has forgotten how to think, which, in terms of information, has sunk to the very bottom. It was gradually lowered. For each event, reputable bloggers will tell you what is true and what is not. Then the actions of government agencies will be denigrated. And in the end, they will come to the simplest - "well, we understand that." The scheme is ideal - in a playful way they communicate with a young man, replace his leisure time, books, education. They reduce his brain activity, creating the illusion that he is reading, learning new and always in trend. And of course, all the latent moments are the awareness of community and the influence of the crowd, and so on.
                In a more adult environment, there are also subtle moments. People are used, gaining authority and having titles. People who have forgotten how to think this is enough. For this reason, the struggle against the country and people is being waged by human rights activists, famous musicians, directors, actors, public figures. Those who by their activity attract the attention of people and are a kind of authority. Even higher, various public organizations are created that are engaged in good deeds, while simultaneously engaged in propaganda.
                Please note that these people often go to TV shows where they are specially invited to see what they are and understand what these famous people are doing. And they behave like you described. Only in peacetime they are ridiculed and they mainly collect hatred against themselves of a healthy part of the population. But the one that has already been processed, they are quite appropriate. And during the unrest, They are ready to tell the truth, push the people. Type Stankevich to the demolition of the monument to Dzerzhinsky.
                1. 0
                  5 September 2018 13: 38
                  Andrew ! you understood me partially. But I consider this to be my success. Many of my quotes are the lifetime expressions of Goebels, Parvus, Soros, etc. I really want people here to show interest in political psychologists. This is a section of political science. I want to see experts on these weapons. But while I see the victims. hi
    5. +2
      4 August 2018 20: 43
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Why did they create the myth of the Pravdorub Solzhenitsyn? They wanted to exalt what a liberal fighter !!!!!! And there was no other candidate among all the traitors !!!! No one else suited this role. Of the living.

      Solzheniyn, in fact, did not see the real Gulag. Therefore, it was publicized to saturate the public. An alternative was, for example, Shalamov, his text is closer to the book of V. Frankl "Man in Search of Meaning." I think that Solzhenitsyn didn’t do any harm since he saw very little and that means he could write very little.
    6. +2
      5 August 2018 19: 02
      Yes, this is a unique phenomenon in world history, when its own power, supports, oohlivanie its state.
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  3. +21
    3 August 2018 06: 26
    It is no secret that Khrushchev was actively engaged in denigrating Stalin, pouring mud on Stalin. And Solzhenitsyn, who wrote nasty things about the Stalin regime, turned out to be very useful. Solzhenitsyn, too, was in demand with his views abroad. and sells the country, everything Soviet is lying with lies from the screens of TV. The country needs new heroes, and here Solzhenitsyn again came to the place.
    1. w70
      +1
      3 August 2018 07: 03
      Alexei, you are a reasonable person, do you really support the tyranny of Stalin?
      1. +28
        3 August 2018 07: 40
        And why do not like Stalin ?! He created the country of the USSR, which still cannot be plundered by its wealth today’s shit like the Chubais-Medved and others.
        1. w70
          -4
          10 August 2018 07: 09
          You probably have a portrait of Stalin in the corner hanging instead of the iconostasis
          1. 0
            11 August 2018 22: 14
            I’m hanging, not instead, but just hanging. And not in the corner.
      2. +15
        3 August 2018 08: 07
        The word "tyrant" I would replace. The leader is more suitable.
        1. 0
          3 August 2018 10: 39
          The Leader Tyrant is even better.
          1. +14
            3 August 2018 14: 18
            Vadim237
            The Leader Tyrant is even better.

            Vadim, he was too soft! You see how many live and forest brothers and banderlogs are left alive. And why? But because they were given 5-8 years for re-education. And then home! And if he were a tyrant, he would destroy everyone! Maybe it would be better!
            1. 0
              3 August 2018 16: 08
              chiefs generally among the Indians in the tribes
              1. 0
                3 August 2018 16: 52
                In the socialist system, there were also leaders.
            2. -4
              3 August 2018 17: 01
              These so-called "Forest Brothers" appeared because the USSR began to impose its system on the Baltic countries, people did not want to, but they imposed them by force, and that’s what happened - a guerrilla war from 40 to 53.
              1. +1
                10 August 2018 19: 11
                Quote: Vadim237
                These so-called "Forest brothers"

                The Kaiteselites and Aizsargi-militarized nationalist organizations created before the war in the Baltic states. Go to school, ignoramus.
                from the beginning of the war, these underelicated people shot in the backs of our soldiers. After hiding in the woods, you dare to call these Nazi infirmities innocent?
        2. 0
          5 August 2018 19: 43
          a tyrant is just a person who has not inherited authoritarian power.
          authoritarianism, it’s not very good at all, “But in the Hour of Trials and before the face of Darkness” was there a more humane option?
          What would happen if the "army of a bloody tyrant" did not come to Poland and Belarus?
      3. +6
        3 August 2018 09: 28
        Not that you read, Sergey. And still blind.
        1. +20
          3 August 2018 11: 44
          I read one more day by a Komsomol member in the hospital. I decided to go to a naval school, horse tonsils as a doctor must be removed. I went to remove tonsils in the summer before grade 10 (I removed adenoids earlier in grade 8)
          And there, Roman-Gazeta magazines were lying on the tables. That was in 1967. I started reading, what struck me. I first encountered a sticking up of a mat, well, in a text expression the word was replaced with fu, yes fu. And it annoyed me (God, how naive it was), an absurd word to the place and out of place in each phrase. I didn’t read the subsequent editions, maybe they replaced or even began to write on obscene. Well read-boring book, a sourceless one. Only then did he find out what he was reading and whom. But later I got to the collection, and there Maryin Posad read, also from the life of prisoners. A heavy depressing impression. But some kind of interest other than the forbidden topic, that was curious, I have not experienced. Then, since my life was connected with the North, I was born there, worked there, well, many northerners are native, and in Murmansk there probably has been someone .. I began to read what came across, from the tales of Boris Shergin, very subtle and kind , to the Kolyma stories of Varlam Shalamov. And I felt the difference. Shalamov writes an autobiography - and you believe him - there is practically no ideology or politics in a special or main form. There is life, survival, but on the facts. They drag this politics and ideology in the background. One moment when he cut down the broken-off tooth fragments to himself, he couldn’t eat, he couldn’t speak, this is an experience, and it’s true. And reading Solzhenitsyn, you feel not Shalam’s steel character and will to live, but slippery peeping at others, this feeling did not leave me before any drains about the bearded prophet .. Time will tell and the descendants will find out, but I don’t live anyway. I rely on my intuition. The fact that Khrushch was profitable to water Stalin is obvious, and not to him alone, I think that the decision was a conspiracy, an unspoken one. It’s possible to bring down the Master, make him a monster, then there will be no questions about the environment and helpers — fear, they were afraid death threats went. Well, the revenge of the bald corn-maker, for humiliating himself and making a fool of himself (like many of Stalin’s entourage) - just by saying, look like a foolish and brave, here Khrushche also played up a hopak and portrayed the near-off bald moron-where to such conspiracies and to power is a fool. Protection through humiliation and servility was and is one of the ways to survive with a strong leader. Well, when the genie was released from the bottle, such dirt flowed here ... I do not justify Stalin, not because I read and I know from the king's parents I made the retinue and GPU -NKVD-KGB-they worked and broke all of them with a small cell — you could raise 10 for a nail driven into a portrait, or an anecdote, etc. This everyone knows — I from my parents remembered for a long time the instructions — not to talk too much, anecdotes about women, Jews and wine -about politics neither .. this fear was not from scratch .. They taught us to keep silent, all conversations at the table with friends, and no one can take it anywhere. I remember how my father’s friend, honored captain-mentor, and, having rid all the seas and oceans, the last penal battalion (for drinking and being late), quietly (with its rolling roar) told your father excitedly, Serega, you read Lavrenev’s “Overhaul” —that you lost the fleet ... that's what you brought to .. in the book, nothing according to today's concepts no, as it is supposed to be negative about officers of the tsarist fleet, scouts and exploiters of orderlies, through one Germans or barons, white bone ..- against this background, oppressed courageous Bolsheviks from the cell and the proletariat td .. But the trick is that it often happens between the lines are filled with longing and nostalgia for centuries-old naval traditions, when honor meant more than life, when an officer was a highly educated man, well-mannered, patriotic, whose goal was to die for his homeland when necessary. And this did not stop being so neat and tidy and even dandies that you involuntarily sympathize with these people. Yes, the messengers and orderlies ... but general’s dachas were not built by builders as I recall, but slaves in military uniforms ... eh, that I split up. My worldview changed a little after 4-5 years of searching for my own consumption of genealogical materials, family-based. I was surprised and somehow turned upside down that the men of the genus were mowed down by the First World War, heroically (George, etc.), grandmothers after Smolny, one in Russian - Japanese in 1906 immediately after graduation, 16 years old, rushed for her husband, and there later the wild plague survived, worked from an accountant to a teacher — when it was allowed (a hereditary noblewoman with attendant), another smolyanka, in 1913 she completed and in parallel the nursing courses in 1914, in a sanitary train as a nurse (this is a girl with such upbringing!) .. later survival in Taganrog, and again-married to a disfranchised person without rights. We lived on a kalym-that is, working as a repertoire or cashier in a movie theater no higher. the grandmother saved the little girl (instead of the neighbor went to the Gestapo, they caught and abandoned the prisoner for food, they called and waited for the camp), I’ve found all this from the memoirs of residents — I found the neighbors, I think that the grandmother talked to the Hokhdutch, well, not everyone was Himmlers and Guy tlers, maybe I managed to explain something, she came and told the neighbor, don’t go, I settled everything. HOW? So damn it, I’m writing too much about sb, but that’s what surprised me — not a single bastard from my relatives was there (I dug some of those) -who betrayed the Motherland and went to the enemies, the Germans. They were patriots. So I try, I love my homeland, but the administrators who have been steering over my short century since 1952 have seen enough and don’t like it. Here is a balance. As for Khrushchev, sometimes life laughs at them. I remember about 20 years ago, under Yeltsin — an Alkash still, the plot showed the son of a corn mailer Sergei, cried with happiness after receiving US citizenship .. the father turned upside down, probably. Recently I saw the dry face of this traitor, blundered something about Brezhnev, washed my dad .. no conscience .. burn them in hell, starting and ending with labeled, red paskuda.
          1. +4
            3 August 2018 15: 55
            If you will allow me - the amendment is small, apparently, you wrote about the "Overhaul" of Leonid Sobolev, and not Lavrenev ...
            1. +3
              3 August 2018 17: 46
              thank you, sorry old man 66 years old, I began to forget, I’m cursed to write a laptop, I can’t write with a pen anymore .. back to the past :)
              1. 0
                4 August 2018 11: 24
                How can you turn out to be an old man in 66 years?
            2. +7
              3 August 2018 18: 02
              In general, so much interest opens in search of just reliable information.
              I work with the archives of St. Petersburg, the Krasnodar region, the Far East, well, I said loudly I work, I write inquiries and I get extracts certified by the authority as an archive document.
              I bite my elbows - why didn’t I write to the tape recorder (well, there was no dictaphone, then tape recorders were rare) -tales when my father, Stepanych and their third friend Igor Skachevsky - all the worms weren’t military, my father didn’t have a military education, he learned the war .And how they start to poison bikes, until the morning. they drank, his father was moderate, Yuno could also take it (usually he didn’t drink), Stepanych — that bucket could — a mighty man, Jumping-too-sailing captain, spitting, passing by the Kronverk restaurant (converted sailing ship) in St. Petersburg and said They made a tavern from the ship :). They had something to remember — before any war 41, his father had already been a radio operator on I. Stalin (an icebreaker) in 1939 — Sedov had saved (Badigin, a writer, later had been friends), and had talked with Papanin for the entire expedition, had found a Finnish sailor to ensure cargo deliveries, Stepanych had something to say about the battalion, and peacetime — from Tiksi, Dikson and Sovgavani — there was no place that he did not know. Skachevsky talked less often — he lived in St. Petersburg as Stepanych — but there some kind of family affairs were complicated. I found the grandson of Jump - by chance - and sent him a photo of his grandfather, maybe he will push to the search. Sami dug out by the kind of grandmothers, almost everything but still a lot of unknown roots in Georgia, but now it’s difficult. But there is a lot of interest in St. Petersburg. Something trepidated when I got an extract from my grandfather, from a cadet school, a boy of 12 and 17 years old every year, personality characteristics, weight and height, and punishments because of which I got into operation in uncleaned boots (I sometimes also received it in the army), the midshipman is a graduate of the Marine Corps (children of noblemen and colonels were taken to a closed educational institution), and surnames which are near-Volkonsky, and other background and barons .. so interesting. Grandmothers in flax studied differently but the beggars were, they took money, especially after the death of his father in 1906 in a bank loan of 800 rubles, under the guarantee of the boss Smolny. Studied well, and there vouched for them. I even found the house of my grandfather’s colonel in the Novopokrovskaya stanitsa, my grandmothers came from there (still Kutaisi), and the grandfather, his wife Anna Ivanovna and one of the grandfathers of the pilot who died in battle with the Germans, found graves, everyone is breathing there, you won’t believe- but with a person after something like this, there’s a cleansing or something .. ehh .. I got loose ..
      4. +3
        5 August 2018 19: 35
        Alexei, you are a reasonable person, do you really support the tyranny of Stalin?
        And here to support, tyranny. It was a tragic time, civil war, intervention, and the way out of these conditions from ruin and chaos, God forbid, support a civil war.
        Even the ancient Greeks knew that collegial management was effective in peacetime, during wars, epidemics, earthquakes, democracy did not work, concentration of power in one hands was needed, therefore, the Greeks called on a tyrant.
        Stalin is the ruler of the era of the terrible catastrophe of the Russian Federation, which was able to lead the country out of chaos.
        Hanging corpses on one person, without taking into account the then situation, is wrong.
  4. +4
    3 August 2018 06: 36
    New country needs its heroes ...
    1. +10
      3 August 2018 07: 42
      New "heroes" have long been there since 1991. This is for those who have no memory or it is short
      1. +3
        3 August 2018 08: 37
        By itself..
    2. +21
      3 August 2018 09: 31
      Which country - such and heroes. My Motherland has the heroes Chkalov and Gagarin. These have stools and shuvalovs. And the troubadours of their "achievements" are types like the nits of Solzhenitsyn.
      1. +12
        3 August 2018 10: 51
        Solzhenitsyn is a very comfortable figure, a fighter against communism (this is the main thing), and he even criticized the new government .. Like the "conscience" of bourgeois Russia .. All his life he kept his nose in the wind, his scumbag was excellent ...
        1. +4
          3 August 2018 14: 05
          Quote: parusnik
          Solzhenitsyn ...... even criticized the new government .. The type of "conscience" ..
          It was he who wanted to be above EBN and humpbacked. That's all !!!!!
  5. +7
    3 August 2018 06: 57
    Quote: Yak28
    It is no secret that Khrushchev was actively engaged in denigrating Stalin, pouring mud on Stalin. And Solzhenitsyn, who wrote nasty things about the Stalin regime, turned out to be very useful. Solzhenitsyn, too, was in demand with his views abroad. and sells the country, everything Soviet is lying with lies from the screens of TV. The country needs new heroes, and here Solzhenitsyn again came to the place.

    To Kolyma such "heroes" ... high there they improve their skills of landscape designers "hand made", over the course of 25 years, with the possibility of prolonging this contract .... at least some kind of benefit
  6. +11
    3 August 2018 07: 02
    There was a need for a project, a martyr was needed, preferably with access to the media. The top leadership was already under control ... you can laugh., But after Khrushchev’s speech at the congress, the USSR’s destruction project took about 40 years, they met the deadlines, even ahead of schedule ..., the AIS was ideally suited as a fighter with the system, An idealist, a writer who suffered from repressions, a literary middle peasant with enormous ambitions, was thrown into the breeding ground of the Soviet intelligentsia, the country wanted change, there was a basis for fermentation, and Solzhenitsin’s Trojan horse was put into the game .... It’s unlikely that he’s would have achieved such success in. But after Stalin's death, everything went awry. A classic agent of influence, moreover, a successful and active agent, the forerunner of Rezun, so to speak.
    1. +12
      3 August 2018 09: 34
      Dmitry!
      the country wanted change, there was a basis for fermentation, and Solzhenitsin's Trojan horse was introduced into the game ....

      It was not the country that wanted change, but the rotten party democracy, which Stalin did not manage to put up a powerful counterbalance in the form of Soviets.
      1. +1
        3 August 2018 10: 26
        Partocracy of change just did not want to!
        1. +3
          3 August 2018 11: 51
          you are right. I remember how the carriage races started .. we were left to the point that there was no one to betray that power yet to Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, Ustinov, everyone fell down like sheaves one after another, and everything in the workplace at that age and illnesses No one wanted to die
  7. +7
    3 August 2018 07: 05
    It is interesting, and in which particular case of the RSU and where did they study animals? To call the priest, and to expel from the corps of the souls of dishonesty in human form! !!
    1. +4
      3 August 2018 16: 22
      Then it was a physics and mathematics university, it was located on Gorky Street 100, now there is some other faculty.
      It’s not the first time they have tried to erect a monument in the city, but so far the administration and the public have successfully resisted, which is typical - in one of the residential areas of the city, the Leventsovsky microdistrict, there is Solzhenitsyn Avenue, but the initiators of the installation do not want to, is this the outskirts of the city , there they will not fit ...
  8. +13
    3 August 2018 07: 12
    And Solzhenitsyn’s archive was taken out by W. Odom, an assistant military attache in Moscow, the future director of the US NSA, whose name is immortalized in the military intelligence hall. They needed Comrade Solzhenitsyn.
    1. -1
      3 August 2018 12: 47
      Comrade Lenin was brought to Russia in a sealed wagon by German specials. services - doesn’t it bother you? bully They also gave money for the political struggle ... bully
      1. +6
        3 August 2018 13: 59
        don’t you suffer from dementia? doesn’t it bother you? here they are the fruits of the Solzhenitsins. I heard fabrications and took them for the truth. Why then fought with the Germans at 18? After all, did Lenin sell everything?
        1. -1
          3 August 2018 15: 46
          1) "poke" with the colonel’s shoulder straps is good on the parade ground, and not on the Web bully
          2) can you refute Lenin’s trip through German territory in a sealed carriage? Then streamline ... crying
          3) the Bolsheviks did not "fight" with the Germans for a long time, and then made a "raunchy peace", betraying the interests of Russia and turning it into the losing side ...
          in short - learn history not in the Short Course ... bully
          1. +5
            3 August 2018 20: 14
            And were there OTHER options? It's strange, like you yourself just write about the story NOT at a short rate, and right there it is ....
            1. -3
              4 August 2018 15: 17
              Other options for what? bully Tear Lenin to power and drown Russia in blood?
              1. +2
                4 August 2018 19: 08
                "... the Bolsheviks didn’t" fight for a long time "with the Germans, and then made a" obscene world ", betraying the interests of Russia and turning it into the losing side ..." (c) - this, could you not conclude a peace? Is it just about survival and retention of power was discussed.
                1. -1
                  6 August 2018 12: 18
                  if not a secret - the retention of power by the Bolsheviks is valuable for Russia and its peoples? Like 27 years they have not been in power and live ... bully
                  1. +1
                    6 August 2018 12: 23
                    How do you ask this question in time, just a hundred years after laughing
                    1. -1
                      6 August 2018 13: 32
                      the question is still relevant - many believe, after the influence of propaganda, that without the Bolsheviks in 1917 Russia would have died ... request
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                        6 August 2018 20: 04
                        We can now solely assume and no more - the history of the subjunctive mood has no request
                    2. +1
                      10 August 2018 19: 22
                      I read the comments of your opponent-ser56 .. a severe defeat of the thinking apparatus, on the basis of blind faith, to the most rotten sources, including Solzhenitsyn's opuses.
                      To show something meaningful, against all these ser56 made by Stalin, they can’t, stupid nonsense with assumptions in the field of quasi-historical fantasies1 of every city of solzhenitsy and other Radzinsky remains. I read something like the opus of one uniquum..on a pearl of Radzinsky, not caught on a direct lie, gives off something HISTORICAL.
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                        19 November 2019 14: 10
                        Quote: badens1111
                        severe defeat of the thinking apparatus, on the basis of blind faith, to the most rotten sources

                        are you talking about yourself noticeably ... bully
                        Quote: badens1111
                        e times caught in a direct lie, gives out for something HISTORICAL.

                        you just diagnosed yourself - there’s nothing to add ... hi
                        Quote: badens1111
                        against done by Stalin

                        yes, it was the bloody executioner of the Russian people ... his "achievements" are clearly visible from collectivization, the defeat of 1941, etc. ... request
                  2. 0
                    18 November 2019 08: 24
                    And the Februaryists were just angels, not a cheat on the tips lol
      2. +7
        3 August 2018 20: 17
        Quote: ser56
        Comrade Lenin was brought to Russia in a sealed wagon by German specials. services - doesn’t it bother you?

        Confuses, imagine.
        Quote: ser56
        The Bolsheviks didn’t “fight” with the Germans for a long time, and then made a “obscene world”, betraying the interests of Russia and turning it into the losing side ...

        Was there anyone to fight? All fronts rained like dominos. And for whom to fight? For the bourgeoisie, which sent Nikolashka to "resign"? They didn’t want for some reason. They scattered around their houses with cuts in their bosoms.
        1. -1
          4 August 2018 15: 21
          1) I hope to remember. that the Germans poured Parvus and money for the support of the Bolsheviks, and after the arrival of the VIL they got a lot of money - they began to print party literature in large print runs, to form and maintain Red Guard detachments is not a cheap thing ... request
          2) And why was there a decree on peace to accept? And to fight already for the Soviet government - they have been in power since 7.11.17/XNUMX/XNUMX, if you do not remember ... request War is a cruel affair and when needed Trotsky shot every 10th ... and the Franks also did in 17g - the Moors shot the French ...
  9. +1
    3 August 2018 07: 45
    Wow, remembering this, Bastard.
    1. +1
      3 August 2018 07: 50
      true remark, but it is necessary to remember that we would not walk on a rake ...
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    1. +12
      3 August 2018 09: 39
      I don’t know what they write in memoirs and biographies - to write as you know everything is possible and the paper will tolerate everything !!! But I very much suspect that Solzhenitsyn is precisely the werewolf who was eating himself and walking with the women far from the front - while others died in battles in thousands !!! Yes - and then after the war, of course, he wrote beautifully about himself, but what else !!!
    2. +11
      3 August 2018 09: 46
      Quote: Valery Gagarin
      Here is information about Solzhenitsyn’s frontline successes and courage. October 194118 - drafted into the army; identified as a sled in the rear 74th Separate Guards Transport Battalion.

      He was drafted into the army much later than all his friends - a certificate of limited validity, which, as Reshetovskaya puts it, "tried to get a little" (and received with the help of his father L. Ezherets, who worked as a doctor), helped to be a little late with the call, and then get there to a non-combatant position.
      Quote: Valery Gagarin
      The order was simply not given to anyone in the war, I note.

      No need to notice unfounded. They gave and how. Examples - a wagon.
      Judging by the testimony of the same Reshetovskaya, the main benefactor of Solzhenitsyn at the front was his immediate superior, Major Pshechenko. He wrote representations about the awards, sent him on a business trip to Moscow, and participated in the jurisdiction case - supplying Reshetovskaya uniform, a soldier’s book and vacation documents.
      I don’t know what prompted the major to do all this, but the story is clearly rotten, smelling at least of sending from a cozy division, 5-10 km from the front line, to the trenches of the first line and not necessarily with shoulder straps.
      Based on these facts, stated by a direct participant in the events, I somehow hardly believe in the fiery heroism of Solzhenitsyn.
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    1. +12
      3 August 2018 12: 25
      Quote: Valery Gagarin
      It is a pity that Stalin shot your relatives a little. He would have shot your gender,

      He shot traitors, traitors, robbers!
      And now there is someone to shoot. Tens of thousands. thieves, embezzlers, traitors, traitors ... It's a pity there is no Stalin
    2. 0
      3 August 2018 12: 56
      in general, you are right, but you should not be compared to the level of your opponent and go to the person ... lol
    3. +2
      3 August 2018 14: 05
      you still read Solzhenitsyn and it turns out that you are a count who escaped execution. how many of your relatives were shot?
      1. +3
        3 August 2018 15: 51
        1) I will refrain from indicating the estate of my relatives in the Republic of Ingushetia bully
        2) one of my grandfather was shot in 1937, the second was in exile from 1930 ...
        3) if it’s not a secret, were your grandfathers an NKVD investigator?
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    1. +7
      3 August 2018 09: 41
      Valery! And why are you so excited? You obviously messed up the resource. People like you here do not really believe.
  14. +15
    3 August 2018 09: 39
    * Why create a myth
    --------------------
    Well ... Judas falls not far from Judas ...

  15. Cop
    +2
    3 August 2018 09: 58
    ...... Solzhenitsyn portrayed the USSR as an "evil empire" .....
    The author, but was he wrong?
    But Private Solzhenitsyn, unsuitable for military service, in some mysterious way, which history is silent about, ended up in an artillery school.
    So this is only a mystery to you ... You yourself think, 1943. By this time, the USSR had suffered huge losses. Someone needed to make up for them, so the future Nobel laureate .... went to the artillery school.
    One fine day, the orderly of Alexander Isaevich, with false documents, brought his wife Captain Solzhenitsyn from an evacuation in Kazakhstan.
    And would you rather have him start a PPS? And now, apparently, they would gladly write about his "form of morality."
    And it was worth saying about the advantages of the Soviet system, about how much the USSR gave to its citizens ....
    Why do not you reveal it in more detail, and the author?
    .... the population of the USSR throughout the reign of Stalin steadily increased.
    And why did you modestly keep silent due to which republics of the former USSR the population increased. As soon as they fell off, so the increase ended.
    The second important conclusion from real statistics: only a quarter of the repressed and prisoners can be considered victims of political repression, and the remaining three quarters received what they deserved for criminal offenses.
    Yes, you're lying even more .... a Nobel laureate. In statistics, for example, those shot, criminals went separately. Here is the author, they shot the "bonapar" Tukhachevsky and almost all of his relatives. So where would you relate his relatives to a quarter or three quarters?
    ... that even at present most of the people favor the death penalty against murderers, rapists, drug dealers and other degenerates)
    So the Russian authorities for the death penalty. But after all, a moratorium on it was introduced not from a good life. If they left her, then our criminal criminals from Europe and the United States would simply cease to extradite.
    The Soviet project had many enemies both in Russia and abroad.
    Here you are right. The USSR possessed simply a unique ability to produce enemies out of the blue. Do not forget the famous phrase: "If the enemy does not surrender ....."
    During the years of “perestroika” and reforms, all those who were repressed in a crowd (both innocent and real enemies of the people) were recorded as “innocent victims” of Stalinism.
    Well, what would you do, Sharansky to the "promised land", and "woman Leroux" would leave the gauntlets to sew?
    The Soviet project, which sought to build an ideal society of the future - a society of knowledge, service and creation with the rule of ethics of conscience ....
    Well, yes, yes, especially if you recall the memory of Lenin’s sister and the works of Comrade Koba. And then the author, how did you reconcile your conscience with ... the special distributor?
    Yes, Mr. Samsonov, the manipulator of you obviously did not work out. This business, as one famous person said, must be studied in this way ...
    PS And then, Mr. author, if the Bolshevik Communists were smarter, then there would be no Solzhenitsin phenomenon. Well, who interfered with the arrest of his case to the court. A war after all. And there, after the verdict, or “wall” or penal battalion, which is about the same thing. So the author learn the materiel.
    1. +4
      3 August 2018 10: 32
      Mr. Samsonov, the manipulator of you obviously did not work out
      Judging by the reviews, most of them have a diploma written, which they did.
      I look forward to receiving an article by Mr. Samsonov on a conditional title Why created the myth of the great Marshal of Victory Zhukov.
      1. Cop
        +2
        3 August 2018 10: 47
        Quote: sxfRipper
        .... reviews - most of them are written with a diploma, which he did.

        Why did you decide this? I am tormented by vague doubts that somewhere on the Optikov Street a dude sits with .... a can of cold beer and portrays people ...
        Quote: sxfRipper
        I look forward to receiving an article by Mr. Samsonov on a conditional title Why created the myth of the great Marshal of Victory Zhukov.
        I would also love to read such an article, especially if the author reveals the contents of his wagons with junk and a list of his PPS.
        1. +1
          3 August 2018 13: 02
          God be with them, trophies ... laughing would tell how he was advancing under Brody or during Mars operation
          1. Cop
            +2
            3 August 2018 14: 05
            Quote: ser56
            God be with them, trophies ... laughing would tell how he was advancing under Brody or during Mars operation

            Well then, to complete the picture, it would not be bad to cover his behavior during the operation of the Citadel by the Germans. And then Mr. Suvorov-Rezun highlighted, but I would like to listen and ...... a different opinion.
            1. 0
              3 August 2018 15: 55
              they will tell you that Reason is a traitor, and therefore everything is lying ... love
              1. Cop
                +1
                4 August 2018 09: 35
                Quote: ser56
                they will tell you that Reason is a traitor, and therefore everything is lying ... love

                Well, let them prove, or at least refer to "anti-suvorov" .... smile
                1. 0
                  4 August 2018 10: 46
                  So for 30 years, "prove". Just do not meet the ends they do not meet, but because they use vigorous mother class
                  Quote: ser56
                  Reason traitor, but because all lies.
                  1. 0
                    4 August 2018 10: 48
                    PS - not so long ago at VO there was an article about Penkovsky. Not everything, they say, is as simple as they told us. Suvorov about Penkovsky when he wrote - but! He (Reason) is a traitor, and therefore everything is lying!
                    1. Cop
                      +2
                      4 August 2018 11: 56
                      Quote: sxfRipper
                      PS - not so long ago at VO there was an article about Penkovsky.
                      Did not read
                      Quote: sxfRipper
                      .Not everything, they say, as simple as we were told. Suvorov about Penkovsky when he wrote - but! He (Reason) is a traitor, and therefore everything is lying!
                      Well, who are they for you?
                      1. +1
                        4 August 2018 16: 13
                        And my question about the article about Zhukov is not enough to understand?
                        Suvorovets I. And he became them long before he read Icebreaker. I know something from the veterans of the Great Patriotic War first-hand. Well, I can think and compare a little.
                        love
                  2. Cop
                    +2
                    4 August 2018 11: 51
                    Quote: sxfRipper
                    Just do not meet the ends they do not converge ....]
                    Well, why do not converge? Mr. Isaev, in my opinion, laid out everything very logically. Not?
    2. +13
      3 August 2018 10: 48
      PS And then, Mr. author, if the Bolshevik Communists were smarter, then there would be no Solzhenitsin phenomenon
      And instead of the bubble, Solzhenitsyn and Sakharov would have inflated other propaganda bubbles exposing the system - and the thing is that these same bubbles were inflated to allegedly expose the generation of the already dead and to really destroy the existing state !!!
      Do you think millions of ordinary American workers wanted to work for $ 3 a day ??? Was that the meaning of their life ??? And during the Great Leap in China, someone especially stood on ceremony with people and especially with the so-called intelligentsia ??? That is, the state strictly controlled its people is not only in the USSR but also in other countries of the world in this historical period of time !!!
      But such a “terrible” Soviet power turned out to be well maintained and fed all sorts of elements there like Solzhenitsyn - who were chilling away from the front while in Leningrad thousands died of hunger !!! And they still - these Solzhenitsyn and Sakharov dare to slander their own country ??? !!!
      1. Cop
        +2
        3 August 2018 14: 21
        Quote: Selevc
        And instead of the bubble, Solzhenitsyn and Sakharov would have inflated other propaganda bubbles exposing the system ...
        Well, firstly, that would be a different story. And secondly, it’s not a fact that they would turn out to be the same ..... talented as the ones mentioned above.
        Quote: Selevc
        Do you think millions of ordinary American workers wanted to work for $ 3 a day ??? Was that the meaning of their life ??? And during the Great Leap in China, someone especially stood on ceremony with people and especially with the so-called intelligentsia ??? That is, the state strictly controlled its people is not only in the USSR but also in other countries of the world in this historical period of time !!!
        A good example, I liked it, especially when you consider that in two cases they were comrades and only in one gentlemen. But imagine that you have a choice to grow rice in the PRC labor camp, dig the Belomor Channel, or work at a Ford plant for three dollars. Which option would you choose?
        Quote: Selevc
        But such a terrible "terrible" Soviet power turned out to be well maintained and fed all kinds of elements there like Solzhenitsyn .....
        Well, it was not at all interesting with you. I would understand if you had not so obsessively led the reader to the idea that we are feeding our Solzhenitsins with white bread, and you are your Marine Lutherovs ...... Generally, learn the materiel. laughing
        1. +4
          3 August 2018 16: 43
          Very briefly - do you think Solzhenitsyn is very talented? This is your right and your opinion, I have a slightly different one.
          and about the fact that someone massively creates comments here - in my opinion, also by ...
          1. Cop
            +2
            4 August 2018 09: 44
            Quote: kitt409
            Very briefly - do you think Solzhenitsyn is very talented?
            Even shorter, I did not say this, read carefully.
            Quote: kitt409
            .... and about the fact that someone massively creates comments here - in my opinion, also by ...
            Really? Here is the magazine “RBC” in issue 11 for 2017 says something completely different ... Or do you think that such a solid publication can print frankly get along?
            1. 0
              4 August 2018 11: 09
              "... And instead of Solzhenitsyn and Sakharov’s bubble, other propaganda bubbles would expose the system ...
              Well, firstly, that would be a different story. And secondly, not the fact that they would be the same .....talented as you mentioned above ... "(c) is it like you wrote a little earlier? ...
              And I do not think that RBC products are solid, but in general I don’t think I trust the source, I had a chance to talk with someone who worked there, he just talked about the inner kitchen, and I’m not interested in finding out the details.
              it’s like with Novaya Gazeta, there was a period, I almost raved about it, the missed number was a tragedy, but gradually a critical mass began to accumulate - to think, thank God, they taught me well at the time), then I met a brow on the train, which took a long time worked there inside - it turned out where the firewood came from, that is, money, after that I stopped reading at all, but this is MY CHOICE ...
              1. Cop
                +2
                4 August 2018 11: 46
                Quote: kitt409
                did you think it was written a little earlier? ...
                And what between words can you not read?
                Quote: kitt409
                .... and I’m not interested in finding out the details
                That’s all your argument .... a reliable source, but I won’t tell you anything about it ....
                Quote: kitt409
                ....... where did the firewood come from, that is, money .....
                You remind me of one "lover of iPhones", which is another lover .... money from the TV screen, or accused the iPhone of theft and corruption, to which the first answered. Yes, he supposedly is a felon and therefore bears all crap ...
                Quote: kitt409
                .... but this is MY CHOICE ...
                Yes, for God's sake, everyone chooses for himself: a woman, religion, the road .....
                1. 0
                  4 August 2018 19: 17
                  Well, you think it is possible to pull words out of context, their meaning - and what did you ask about reading between the lines?)
                  EXPLAINING THE IMPORTANT (relatively speaking) that the person betrayed, the details are no longer interesting to me - why?)
                  And as for RBC - how many have just fled from there, and NOT yesterday?).
                  However, if you consider it - a super reputable publication - this is your choice, I have my ...
                  1. Cop
                    +2
                    4 August 2018 23: 21
                    Quote: kitt409
                    Well, you think it is possible to pull words out of context, their meaning - and what did you ask about reading between the lines?)
                    Actually, I quote. And what is the meaning of your words, I distorted? And between the words they usually put punctuation marks, I've put an ellipsis.
                    Quote: kitt409
                    EXPLAINING THE IMPORTANT (relatively speaking) that the person betrayed, the details are no longer interesting to me - why?)
                    Really, why? Even the most humane Soviet court gave the criminal the last words. And you deprive him even of this ...
                    Quote: kitt409
                    And as for RBC - how many have just fled from there, and NOT yesterday?).
                    So this is life, people come to get a job, then it ceases to arrange them and they leave. What is so strange here. And then, if the article is crap, then why didn't anyone go to court?
                    Quote: kitt409
                    ..... I have my own ...
                    Do not share?
                    1. +1
                      4 August 2018 23: 41
                      So it’s easier for me. I am NOT a court)
                      As for the ships leaving too - oh how they DO NOT always go there, the main problem, well, let's call it politely - labor conflicts, the evidence base, that’s all the explanations.
                      As for the source - alas, I’m not planning yet, I’m too recently here, I haven’t looked around and acclimatized to the end), but in general I try not to spread unnecessary information about myself, maybe a little later?)
                      1. Cop
                        +2
                        5 August 2018 09: 21
                        Quote: kitt409
                        So it’s easier for me. I am NOT a court)
                        Exactly, just the chairman of a troika or special meeting.
                        Quote: kitt409
                        As for the ships leaving too - oh how they DO NOT always go there, the main problem, well, let's call it politely - labor conflicts, the evidence base, that’s all the explanations.
                        You read carefully, I had another in mind ....
                        Quote: kitt409
                        As for the source - alas, I’m not planning yet, I’m too recently here, I haven’t looked around and acclimatized to the end), but in general I try not to spread unnecessary information about myself, maybe a little later?)
                        And, of course, otherwise I decided it was a sinful thing that the authorities forbade you to burn sources ..... laughing
      2. +3
        3 August 2018 18: 58
        And they still - these Solzhenitsyn and Sakharov dare to slander their own country ??? !!!

        I suspect that the "evil empire" made it possible for one peasant son to become an academician, and a second writer, otherwise they would bend in their villages after the three classes of the Central House of Artists.
        1. Cop
          +2
          4 August 2018 09: 48
          Quote: Prosha
          And they still - these Solzhenitsyn and Sakharov dare to slander their own country ??? !!!

          I suspect that the "evil empire" made it possible for one peasant son to become an academician, and a second writer, otherwise they would bend in their villages after the three classes of the Central House of Artists.

          Another empire, which they do not seem to call evil, also gave .... to his son, who came with a fish train, the opportunity to become a great man. Maybe this is the property of all ... empires? Not?
    3. 0
      3 August 2018 12: 58
      I disagree in detail, but overall - bravo! wink
      1. 0
        3 August 2018 12: 59
        this refers to the message soor, something the engine crashes ...
        1. +2
          3 August 2018 20: 41
          Quote: ser56
          this refers to post soor


          Quote: ser56
          But imagine that you have a choice to grow rice in the PRC labor camp, dig the Belomor Channel, or work at a Ford plant for three dollars.

          Is it a tunnel? It would be nice to show one more choice - to die during the great depression.
          1. 0
            4 August 2018 15: 29
            1) either during the Holodomor, or in exile with a fist / German / Chechen / etc.
            2) I don’t care much about the problems of the Americans - they are big, but I note that in the USA there was capitalism and no one denies this animal’s grin ... bully but in 32-33, the people in the USSR were dying of hunger under the people's power, which set up social experiments — eliminated the kulaks as a class ... hi
  16. +10
    3 August 2018 10: 55
    at the end of his life, the writer begins to open his eyes to the truth.
    Anyone who has kept his mind with age is finding it increasingly difficult to deceive himself and lie to others. From my youth I didn’t digest it, it was boring to read, the language was not elegant, the plots were gloomy, and my grandfather said that he was lying, this clicker (he called him that), and his grandfather was never shy about telling the truth. The anti-advisers untwisted him so that he himself believed that he was the messiah, even decided to teach us orphans how to equip Russia. In general, God is his judge.
    1. +12
      3 August 2018 11: 11
      And yet - people smarter should understand where the legs grow from these same horror stories about the USSR !!! If the United States made three lies of lies about its flights to the Moon (even the Americans themselves, people of the Trump adviser level admit it), then what can they do about the country that they always hated - that is, about the USSR ???

      I think that about the period of Stalin’s rule there are now more fables than truth - that is, this CREATIVE period in the history of the USSR-Russia is thoroughly muddied !!!
  17. 0
    3 August 2018 11: 17
    Quote: Moore
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    Here is information about Solzhenitsyn’s frontline successes and courage. October 194118 - drafted into the army; identified as a sled in the rear 74th Separate Guards Transport Battalion.

    He was drafted into the army much later than all his friends - a certificate of limited validity, which, as Reshetovskaya puts it, "tried to get a little" (and received with the help of his father L. Ezherets, who worked as a doctor), helped to be a little late with the call, and then get there to a non-combatant position.
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    The order was simply not given to anyone in the war, I note.

    No need to notice unfounded. They gave and how. Examples - a wagon.
    Judging by the testimony of the same Reshetovskaya, the main benefactor of Solzhenitsyn at the front was his immediate superior, Major Pshechenko. He wrote representations about the awards, sent him on a business trip to Moscow, and participated in the jurisdiction case - supplying Reshetovskaya uniform, a soldier’s book and vacation documents.
    I don’t know what prompted the major to do all this, but the story is clearly rotten, smelling at least of sending from a cozy division, 5-10 km from the front line, to the trenches of the first line and not necessarily with shoulder straps.
    Based on these facts, stated by a direct participant in the events, I somehow hardly believe in the fiery heroism of Solzhenitsyn.

    evidence about orders? bring
    if not, take the trouble to pick your words back
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    1. +4
      3 August 2018 14: 11
      whether he’s a shit-holy saint. by Peter I’s transport, he also shed blood, Stalin is not good for him. Any restructuring of the state means a lot of blood. your damned Yeltsin killed more than the Communists during the reign.
      1. +1
        3 August 2018 16: 01
        1) During the time of the temporary detention facility, people died much more ... except for the GV, then about 30 tons of “rebels” were shot for collectivization in the 150s, about 200 tons died in exile, then terror in the mid-30s - another 700 tons, terror against military personnel in the Second World War - about 500 tons more, from starvation at least 4 million died of collectivization, after the war about 1 million ...
        2) EBN is far from an angel, but the era of the transition to capitalism was the result of building socialism ... Well, socialism could not stand the test, but practice is the criterion of truth according to Marxism ... hi
    2. +6
      3 August 2018 19: 10
      Bolsheviks and commies tried

      Here he is the direct heir to V. Novodvorskaya, even the same language !!!
  19. +3
    3 August 2018 11: 20
    Interestingly, this writer is loved both in the West and by Russian authorities and pro-government media

    Nothing new. They in the West are very fond of everyone who calls all sorts of nasty things about their homeland, if only the West would not criticize, like Al. Zinoviev, by the way, is very respected by me, unlike Solzhenitsyn, the author.
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    1. +3
      3 August 2018 19: 15
      and the site is slowly changing for the better

      And the site, indeed, is changing in an incomprehensible direction ... and is it not clear to laugh or cry? Still, Solzhenitsyn seeds sprouted and stormy !!!
  22. 0
    3 August 2018 11: 59
    Let writers deal with the writer's work. And political assessments are given to politicians based on the results. The rest need to read more in order to learn how to put their knowledge into practice, it's damn hard. Not Solzhenitsyn destroyed the state.
  23. +11
    3 August 2018 12: 17
    Faced with the scum nature of the nomenclature during the perestroika period and taken a sip in the 90s, I realized that Stalin was still quite soft in his “repressions.” If you are careful and not even very thoroughly meticulous, when considering most of the repressed, you can see that they are in their mass one way or another (godfather, matchmaker, brother, sculpted friend, lover, etc.) were tied to those in power and whose party democracy was moved away from the feeder. Now our opposition (no matter what) is clearly divided into three categories: 1-those who were kicked from the state feeder , 2 those who are torn to the feeding trough, 3-frank madness. Solzhenitsyn is just an opportunist (which, for me, differs little from the traitor), got into the stream.
  24. +4
    3 August 2018 12: 21
    Quote: NordUral
    One company, alas!

    Yes good good good hi
  25. +5
    3 August 2018 12: 39
    the author does not paint this article, in the heat of controversy (with the deceased wassat ) he made explicit overexposures that did not color him ... for example:
    1) "But Private Solzhenitsyn, unsuitable for military service, in some mysterious way about which history is silent, ended up in an artillery school" - the author is against Solzhenitsin's patriotic position - go to the front?
    2) “I didn’t take direct part in the battles and battles, since I commanded a sound reconnaissance battery” - the author shows a blatant ignorance in military affairs ... bully
    3) "Received awards: orders of the Patriotic War and the Red Star." - by author, I went to the headquarters and gave ... bully actually awarded military orders .... request
    4) "And in Marfin - a pound of white bread a day, in Marfin - butter, any books, volleyball, music on the radio and work in an acoustic laboratory." curious - did Solzhenitsyn establish his own ration, or was he a ZK and worked in sharashka? According to the author, he was at the resort ... request
    5) “Khrushchev, knowing that at the time of the death of his predecessor, there were about two million prisoners in the camps, he said out loud about ten million.” - It is curious, what does the author think of all those who were exiled as prisoners or immigrants?
    6) “It turned out that for the whole time when Stalin was at the head of the country, 700 thousand people were shot.” ​​Small things by the author ... By the way, why does the author refer not to Soviet sources, but to foreign ones? bully
    7) “Thus, the number of people repressed during the Stalin period is one hundred times less than what was attributed to him.” If it’s no secret, the author takes into account the repressed dispossessed, exiled - kulaks, Volga Germans, Chechens and others? Or did he get lost in arithmetic? According to Zemsky only dispossessed were 4,5 million, of which 2 million were exiled ... bully
    8) "among prisoners laborx camps. "Still labor? Or were they called differently? bully
    9) "This is confirmed by demographic statistics, according to which, with the exception of failure during the war, the population of the USSR steadily increased throughout the reign of Stalin." Even during the famine of the 30s?
    in general, too lazy to further analyze this opus - the author is trying to replace one lie with another, ideologically close to him ... request
  26. +2
    3 August 2018 12: 48
    Quote: The Truth
    One day, Ivan Denisovich from the point of view of artistic value, literature - is nothing of itself. Why Twardowski needed to print such nonsense, such trifling literature, is not clear.

    -------------------------
    Any writer is first of all a banal loot, and then "engineer of human souls". This applies to any writer and poet, including corny and Pushkin, and Vysotsky. With all their undoubted literary genius, they cut down loot and Pushkin was very worried when the circulation of his books fell. The same applies to Vysotsky, who was ruined by drugs and vodka, which he took for fear of the OBKhSS, the KGB and simply worrying about the inability to perform officially, doing leftists and chess, that is, semi-legal earnings.
  27. +5
    3 August 2018 12: 51
    Quote: iouris
    Let writers deal with the writer's work.

    --------------------------
    In terms of the volume of his books, he tried to approach Tolstoy, but in the depth of his thoughts he could not. And in general, certain parts of his works are commonplace plagiarism or idle speculation, pulling nonexistent facts on the canvas of real events.
    1. +1
      4 August 2018 10: 56
      Compare Tolstoy and Solzhenitsyn. And ... didn’t you try to compare with your finger?
      Two people with a completely different mentality - how can you compare red with sour?
      Quote: Altona
      individual parts of his works are commonplace plagiarism or idle speculation
      Facts in the studio, huh? Or just read in the depths of the internet?
  28. +8
    3 August 2018 12: 52
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    Solzhenitsyn loved his country and fought against commies
    and commies and Russia are two different things

    ------------------------
    So he loved that he asked from the screen of American television to fling an atomic bomb at her? And the “commies” are good, feeding the slanderer with white bread and giving him a bed with linen and a feather bed when the country ate a quinoa and turned over stones.
    1. +1
      3 August 2018 16: 05
      And why did the country eat quinoa? Probably due to the genius of the temporary detention center and its wise policy, both diplomatic and personnel, and especially military construction, the Red Army was dragging to Moscow ... request
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    1. +5
      3 August 2018 14: 14
      where were you born, Gagarin and who fed you with a swan, forcing to turn stones. Go to your ukrosayt and there is a balabol.
    2. +2
      3 August 2018 16: 50
      Read carefully the literary work of your idol, he himself is there all about atomic bombs and writes ...
      P.S. I didn’t write about television ...
      P.P.S. And write, pliz, on your own behalf and your opinion, you should NOT try to be responsible for the whole country ...
  30. +3
    3 August 2018 13: 41
    Well, as it always has been, such personalities were used for propaganda ..
    However, with all the dislike of the United States, one must pay tribute to the creation of an intelligence agency that was able to carry out a huge number of red coups and successfully controls the opinion of the active majority in various countries using the information field; this requires not a lot of knowledge and skills.
  31. +2
    3 August 2018 13: 59
    “About the dead, either good or nothing but the truth,” is the dictum of the ancient Greek politician and poet Chilon of Sparta (XNUMXth century BC), cited by the historian Diogenes Laertius (XNUMXrd century AD). © Only the truth - Ungulate goat!
  32. +5
    3 August 2018 14: 18
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    1 You watched this program, can you give evidence? Or is it a chatter?

    -----------------------
    Have you been banned from Youtube? These are already well-known facts. And I know perfectly well who Solzh is, my friend was so enthusiastic about him, he read it in samizdat.

    the country hated commies all the time
    ---------------------
    You do not equal yourself with the country. There were 17 million communists in the country, and the vast majority were ordinary.
    1. +1
      3 August 2018 16: 05
      Well, where were these 17 million in 1991? bully
      1. +2
        3 August 2018 18: 40
        If they knew what all this would result in - it would not be 17, but all 170 ...
        1. +1
          4 August 2018 15: 35
          and what resulted in? laughing compare how they lived in the RSFSR and how people live in the Russian Federation - heaven and earth ... compare types of cars, shops, level of salary, freedom of speech (such a discussion in the USSR was a priori impossible), departure, etc.
          1. +3
            4 August 2018 19: 32
            An anecdote on this subject oh how I heard NOT yesterday - “in connection with democracy, the chain at Sharik was extended by 3 meters, but the bowl was moved back by 5 meters” (c)
            it’s the same here - especially about the types of cars "liked", compared))) and about the shops - paradoxically, but in those days it would not be better - the quality of the products will be compared?))) Try now to find natural products, oh it’s not easy ...
            As for the departure - now no more than a quarter of the population has a passport, why explain it?
            so not everything seems to be an indisputable plus, in fact it is.
            And yet - you describe how the results of the IVS activity would be, there are solid minuses, now you describe how life has changed compared to the USSR - you have solid pluses))))
            How do you do it?)))
            1. 0
              6 August 2018 12: 36
              1) do you prefer to ride a VAZ 2105? bully
              2) I lived in those days and went to the store - do not lie ... the potatoes were rotten, the butter split into fractions when heated - now it is called a spread, the chicken was frozen (now chopped and chilled), the meat was only frozen and it was necessary look, normal only in the markets at a completely different price ... for sausage, however, like oil, we had coupons in Sverdlovsk ...
              3) Now the composition is written on the labels - read ...
              4) Do you remember what an exit visa is? bully Or a characteristic for its receipt? And now this is a pure economy - there is money and desire - I went ...
              5) Are you ready to refute my thesis about IVS? By the way, is it possible to compare repressions with it and some financial problems now?
              6) Refute me - then not in general terms, but specifically ... weakly? feel
              1. +1
                6 August 2018 20: 56
                For starters - follow your speech am lie not trained
                But you don’t really have to refute it either - I did NOT live there, where you are, but NOT in Moscow, so tell your fables about the decaying cat’s oil, he can believe you, and here at home, my grandmother, though infrequently, but mine I made my favorite croutons - frying them just in butter ...
                and put your OWN coupons somewhere - when did you get them? I and the 60s found a bit, what kind of cards, what coupons ???? am We didn’t have them, in those days, at least ...
                Was the potato rotten? Well, then a skill is needed, if it is not there, you, that’s all bad and it turns out)
                read the composition now? And there everything is exactly written, as it is ??? why are you writing such dregs here, the responsibility for the violation is ridiculous, so everyone is not too lazy to violate, so what do you eat in today's stores , and then you will be fed on what is being hung up in stores - I have a slightly different food supply system, I won’t tell you and your colleagues, you’ll think of it yourself if you want. laughing
                Point 4 - have money - do many have it? Here are those who have that percentage and fit with a margin.
                My mother has a visa, I received an ordinary owl engineer more than once - Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia ... and no extra gestures.
                By the way, the VAZ 2105, which you don’t like so much, for the third year already manages to pass where the Solaris does not pass, on the way to the village laughing By the way, I have another car - and not 2105, and not Solaris ...
                And why did you decide that I would try to convince a convinced anti-Stalinist? WHY DOES I THIS "HAPPINESS" ??? - you are convinced of this - these are YOUR beliefs and YOUR problems, you live with them.
                It’s just not interesting for me to communicate with those who deny ALL achievements and see only minuses in those times.
                I just DO NOT like one-sided and biased coverage, no matter what ...
                P.S. And try to take your cat weakly, it may succumb laughing
                1. 0
                  8 August 2018 15: 22
                  1) I'm used to calling a spade a spade ... claiming to myself ... request
                  2) I received coupons personally in Sverdlovsk since 1986, I bought oil for them ... before that I lived in Tomsk - there were no coupons or oil there were constantly on sale ... bully
                  3) your hysteria about the coupons is funny ... feel
                  4) what kind of potato was in the store, and bought it ... we were also persecuted to sort it out at vegetable depots ... we also cultivated it ourselves - they went straight from the organization, gave 2-4 hundredth of plowing and drove to plant, spud and scoot .. .stored in a cellar made on the territory of the organization ... in a modern way - nonsense, but there was no way out hi
                  5) if the composition is not written correctly - you can write a complaint and put them on a serious fine grandmother ... bully and soy interests should be protected by yourself ...
                  6) Earn money is always a problem, but in the USSR there was a second problem - it is wise to spend it .... request By the way - in the USA, too, not all passports ...
                  7) I went to 5ke for 10 years ... soldier
                  8) you have delusions of grandeur - I am not convincing you, I am bantering on your stupidities ... hi
                  9) I do not force you to write crying
                  10) I do not have a cat - I have scotch tape - terrier .. request
                  1. +1
                    8 August 2018 16: 34
                    1) didn’t you write about the lie? So watch your speech ...
                    2) a little earlier than that year, I started to live in a very closed town, of course, that there wasn’t and didn’t even smell, BUT on vacation, where my parents lived, and the boutiques often went, and there weren’t any coupons there - and so a year before 90-91, I don’t remember more precisely, then they started to appear - Rostov-on-Don, parents did NOT work in bodies and other criminal organizations.
                    Yes, and trips in those days to Kaluga, Tula, and some cities nearby - the problems were only with vodka, yes)
                    3) and your hysteria about the PUBLIC distribution of coupons, isn’t it funny? It’s rather shameful for you, why - you have to understand this yourself strictly)
                    4) you do not understand anything, it happens)))
                    5) examples of YOUR activities in this field are weak to bring? where did you write, what claims were applied, the amount of fines for YOUR requests ...)))
                    6) I did not have these problems, it’s like you managed to attract all the problems that existed at that time, well, these are questions for you already)
                    7) didn’t you write a post, the meaning of which is that the VAZ 2105 is very bad?)))
                    8) your banter, or rather, the attempt of such, and oh how unsuccessful I do not occupy a gram, your banter is your problem when a person has put into his head (I will write politely) one thing - and point blank DOES NOT notice anything else - it’s always bad for just such a person, so these are your problems, you have to solve them ...
                    9) I do not force you to read
                    10) in your "team" replacement - instead of a cat, tell everything to your terrier laughing
                    1. 0
                      8 August 2018 18: 48
                      1) you lied about the Soviet shops, I noted this - are you ready to challenge in essence?
                      2) if you do not know the topic - it is better to listen to those who know ... feel
                      3) lying again - I wrote my experience - find my word "ubiquitous" bully
                      4) by no means - under socialism, rotten potatoes, under capitalism - no ... wink
                      5) I have no problems with this - I buy in normal stores, if low-quality goods accidentally come across - they change me without sound ...
                      6) if you are so rich, then why are you crucifying about socialism ... bully
                      7) yes, this is a bad car compared to normal ones - I have been driving other cars for a long time and I understand it well ... request
                      8) word flow without meaning ... bully
                      9) plagiarism ...
                      10) and why, I do not do stupid things request
                      1. +1
                        8 August 2018 20: 48
                        1) you lied and continue it on most points of your opus
                        2) knowing - this is you ???))))
                        fairy tales of a gray hedgehog - that's what you are trying to vtulit here.
                        3) see point 1 - everything is already written with me there, you need to be able to lie too, you have not learned.
                        4) you again did NOT understand anything, if you DO NOT have enough brains or ingenuity to organize a normal supply and nutrition for your family - these are YOUR PROBLEMS) my family ate and eats quality products, not from the store, and special distributors have nothing to do with it either .. .
                        Under capitalism, you still find a potato, high-quality and without any disgusting, although in my opinion, such subtleties just do not bother you, well, continue on and on ...
                        5) do you think that you have high-quality stores and you buy normal goods there, consider this further, that it does NOT correspond to reality - well, you don’t know about it, well, it means that it’s not))))
                        And about replacements, fines and other things - tell me about point 10, there your "information" will not raise any questions - damn it, whole companies deal with relatives, including claims on the composition and quality of goods, there’s an iksperd who tells how everything in this area is good and there are no problems))))) continue)))
                        6) here it is with you that I forgot to coordinate the topics of my comments))))
                        7) how is it possible, a person knows that this car is bad, but 10 years it drives ???? )))
                        8) the fact that you do not understand the meaning does not mean that there is no sense there - so re-read it again, then again - and so on until you understand the meaning of the post)
                        9) -10) what you did not understand is your problem ... laughing
                  2. 0
                    18 August 2018 11: 21
                    "... I received coupons personally in Sverdlovsk since 1986, and I used them to buy butter ... before that I lived in Tomsk - there were no coupons, no butter is constantly on sale ..." (c) - for these coupons tell me Thanks to your light of perestroika, it was he who declared the course of perestroika and new thinking at the April 1985 plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU - Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev am
      2. +2
        3 August 2018 19: 20
        Well, where were these 17 million in 1991?

        In the same place where the honest soldiers of the Vlasov army ended up, they were betrayed. Or didn’t you know?
    2. 0
      4 August 2018 10: 59
      And what was said in the Constitution of the USSR regarding the governing and guiding ones ??? And why burst into it - do not remember? Just do not write that because of the desire for bright ideals.
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    1. +1
      3 August 2018 21: 35
      Quote: Valery Gagarin
      I do not see the links, I see the chatter

      Actually, he screamed that the USSR would have more weapons, and should the US wait?
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    1. +1
      3 August 2018 16: 53
      They (citizens) how you were authorized to express the opinion of all, a link to the studio) ...
    2. +4
      3 August 2018 20: 21
      I align myself with all the other citizens of the country whose commies were sitting on their necks

      As a citizen of the country, I assure you that this is something that is trying to speak for us, in no way expresses the opinion of the people
      Here are all 17 million and the country hated
      No, the country hates people like you, and with pleasure will drip you at the first opportunity
  35. BAI
    +4
    3 August 2018 15: 52
    Why create a myth

    Yes, for the same reason that Nicholas was canonized - all to fight the Soviet past.
    1. 0
      4 August 2018 15: 36
      Nicholas was canonized for the ritual murder of the family ...
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    1. +3
      3 August 2018 18: 34
      Everyone sees what he wants to see, hesitate to ask - do you measure everything exclusively for edibility?)
  37. 0
    3 August 2018 18: 13
    Quote: kitt409
    Read carefully the literary work of your idol, he himself is there all about atomic bombs and writes ...
    P.S. I didn’t write about television ...
    P.P.S. And write, pliz, on your own behalf and your opinion, you should NOT try to be responsible for the whole country ...

    learn materiel-
    distinguish works of art from statements with statements, unless of course you can
    where did you get that he is my idol then?
    1. +1
      3 August 2018 18: 38
      Start with the hardware at home, as you would expect an answer to the attempts to represent the whole country from you did not follow))
      Where did you get it - by the zeal with which you defend it.
      And he has neither more nor less, but attempts almost on documentary, or can you lie in art?)
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    1. +4
      3 August 2018 20: 06
      Documents are usually in archives, I read them there, but where you do it is unknown to me, and not interesting.
      It is NOT interesting to communicate with a person who has one clearly calibrated line of “guard, commies” or “beat commies”), it’s boring ...
      I’m far from idealizing and extolling the times of the USSR, BUT denying the good that I wasn’t going to, you won’t wait).
      And your position about fiction strongly resembles the cries of some ... - “Don’t touch, he’s talent, he’s not like that, he’s a super director” - and it was all about banal embezzlement, what does talent or not talent, or even a director? ??)))
      P.S. As for the idols - it is worth calculating the total number of your comments and determining the percentage in the topics about Solzhenitsyn, and immediately it becomes clear that about the idols you are cunning)))
  39. 0
    3 August 2018 18: 47
    Quote: kitt409
    If they knew what all this would result in - it would not be 17, but all 170 ...

    what did it result in? wassat
    1. +1
      3 August 2018 20: 26
      In the current mess and the madhouse, but with the elements of democracy)
      1. +1
        4 August 2018 15: 38
        if not a secret - did you live in the USSR? bully that's where there was a madhouse on political information, a single political day, or when adopting individual integrated plans ... laughing
        1. +2
          4 August 2018 20: 06
          lived, and not one decade, so as it was, I know that the details could change, but not by much, I personally was practically lucky in this regard, fanaticism was not found anywhere, everything was within reasonable limits, especially at school we had one teacher to diversify it, in different ways, such as reporting, so to speak, to prepare all this was quite curious, new things were learned, especially with foreign events ...
          1. 0
            6 August 2018 12: 38
            maybe it would be better to teach you more useful things at this time? request
            1. 0
              6 August 2018 21: 05
              Well, if you personally were not lucky with the teachers, it doesn’t mean at all that everyone had the same way, I could choose what I was interested in and don’t worry about my education, it’s thanks to him that I’m adding a few letters to my name in front of my name laughing
              1. 0
                8 August 2018 15: 24
                boom to change something? laughing I’ll reassure you in advance, your letters against mine will be funny ... request but I will refrain from pointing them ... bully
                1. 0
                  8 August 2018 16: 42
                  Are you surfing the internet? laughing So far unsuccessful, I’m not interested in your letters, judging by your comments, in any situation, in person I wouldn’t communicate with you, regardless of ranks, official position, etc. - I can afford it and have done it more than once, naturally in the framework of elementary politeness and decency laughing hi continue not to indicate them further laughing 008 you are ours.
                  1. 0
                    8 August 2018 18: 50
                    1) not at all - you raised the topic - so in the mirror hi
                    2) your inferiority complexes are deeply purple to me ... bully
                    1. 0
                      8 August 2018 20: 50
                      Pay attention first of all to YOUR complexes, once again - if you got such teachers, is it just the matter ???
        2. +1
          11 August 2018 22: 24
          Quote: ser56
          that's where there was a madhouse on political information, a single political day

          Hee-hee ... I somehow got a job in one office. So there every day, in the morning, ossan had to sing. Like: "We are one team, our boss is Uncle Vasya ..." And even at the same time, become a circle. As he looked, he grabbed his hands and feet, and gave a tear to these p. Fools.
  40. +1
    3 August 2018 18: 48
    Quote: kitt409
    Everyone sees what he wants to see, hesitate to ask - do you measure everything exclusively for edibility?)

    Of course not
    I also need shoes, clothes and home appliances
    1. +3
      3 August 2018 20: 08
      As expected, spiritual values ​​for you do not exist) - it happens)))
  41. -2
    3 August 2018 20: 14
    He died and died, why write about him. It is rightly said that one who lives in the past has no future.
  42. +1
    3 August 2018 20: 54
    Quote: The Truth
    ...
    The inclusion of Solzhenitsyn's literature in the list of compulsory school literature should be seen on the liberal side as a big victory over traditional school education.
    ...
    The task of the patriots of Russia is to achieve the destruction of such literature from the school course of public education.
    ...

    I can reassure you and those who share your opinion - the inclusion of any work in the school curriculum will have little effect on the introduction of ideas propagated by the author into the masses. They do not read corny. They prepare lessons for the short content from the Internet, without much understanding of the author’s ideas. Well, you probably know all this without me. Having grown up, they choose books for reading to their taste and this is most often not the same classic. And the fact that they study this classics at school does not make Dostoevsky super popular.
    But when the state comes into play. propaganda, you can roll mountains.
    1. +1
      4 August 2018 11: 03
      Once, instead of Dostoevsky, Chernyshevsky was paraded to us. So - What to do I have not read it. Not then, nor, moreover, now. And nothing, I do not suffer from this))).
      Quote: ALSur
      But when the state comes into play. propaganda, you can roll mountains
      Exactly!
      1. 0
        4 August 2018 15: 39
        well, in vain ... books must be read, especially the dreams of Vera Pavlovna ... bully
  43. 0
    3 August 2018 21: 30
    Quote: kitt409
    Documents are usually in archives, I read them there, but where you do it is unknown to me, and not interesting.
    It is NOT interesting to communicate with a person who has one clearly calibrated line of “guard, commies” or “beat commies”), it’s boring ...
    I’m far from idealizing and extolling the times of the USSR, BUT denying the good that I wasn’t going to, you won’t wait).
    And your position about fiction strongly resembles the cries of some ... - “Don’t touch, he’s talent, he’s not like that, he’s a super director” - and it was all about banal embezzlement, what does talent or not talent, or even a director? ??)))
    P.S. As for the idols - it is worth calculating the total number of your comments and determining the percentage in the topics about Solzhenitsyn, and immediately it becomes clear that about the idols you are cunning)))

    It is about fiction that you correctly identified. And where the slander is directed at a person, I protect him. For the rest, Solzhenitsyn is no more expensive than other writers)
    I have enough of my thoughts to be guided by someone else (to idols).
    1. +3
      3 August 2018 21: 45
      I already wrote about enough, numbers are a very stubborn thing)
      As for the art - continue to continue to consider certain people special, who are "mustache monya", this is your right, BUT and your problems.)
      And about the slander - I had to hold quite a few different works in my hands, including the dissenters to read, and in the article, NOT everything is written, either in plus or minus, but this is not surprising - the volume is not the same ...
      and your attempts to protect are quite one-sided and non-objective, IMHO ...
      1. 0
        4 August 2018 15: 40
        the article under discussion is generally unscientific ... bully
  44. +4
    3 August 2018 21: 30
    Quote: nznz
    I bite my elbows - why didn’t I write to the tape recorder (well then there was no dictaphone, give tape recorders a rarity) -tales when father, Stepanych and their third friend

    Alas, I also regret it. Grandma and her grandfather were in occupation, it would be possible to record memories of living in the occupation, and the 20s and earlier, but alas. Gone to another world. It remains only to regret. Something, of course I remember. I undertook to record at least these fragments. Sometimes we talk with father about war, he is at the front with 43. About front-line life.
    A daughter sometimes says: "Dad, you sometimes talk about such interesting things, not only about your former work, but also about your life, you would take it and write at least notes." I can’t make up my mind. But for our grandchildren, great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren, our memories will also be a revelation. We lived at a turning point. One country has left, another has come. Now we regret that we did not ask grandfathers about the times of the revolution and the Civil War, fathers about the Great Patriotic War ... But then our descendants will also regret that we were not questioned ....

    Now about the "hero" notes. "One Day" read in the early 70's. I came across this small-format soft cover book. I don’t even remember how. It was interesting, since it was a different world for us. I listened to some things on GA or Freedom, and possibly on the Air Force. Something was completely uninteresting, I perceived something with interest, since the same World War I in our country was always perceived only through the prism of ideology. But when it became possible to read it freely, simply by buying a multi-volume in a store - interest disappeared. Either his perception of my country filled his teeth, or he simply lost interest in this writings. It’s like with the same Victor Suvorov or Maxim Kalashnikov. The first or second book was swallowed in one gulp. Then it became annoying, an internal protest appeared, they began to delve into reference books and encyclopedias. Well, now with the Internet in general Laf. The history of many formations, and the Red Army, and indeed our opponents, can be traced in stages. So Solzhenitsyn. I didn’t perceive his arrival from overseas at all. Well arrived, and figs with him. Then his performances began to annoy, with his teachings, how to live and for whom to repent.

    Summary. As a writer, nothing special. Personally for me. Some works are not bad and interesting, some are just rubbish.
    1. +1
      3 August 2018 22: 07
      The main thing, at least to tell the children, I managed to explain to the little ones the little ones about Prokhorovka what actually happened there, and what’s more on the playground, well, briefly it happened, I asked my son later, how did I remember all this from memory, but I remembered then I’m the most basic, like the names of the commanders, comcor’s, no more ...
      and minor) then he “confessed” that he was told something on the street something like - well, you have a professor, Dad)))
  45. -1
    3 August 2018 21: 31
    Let's pay tribute to the great writer Solzhenitsyn. He was the first to write the truth about the most heinous moment in our history. No one before him and after in did not bother to study this issue and add or amend it And all the whiners who believe that Russia will be humiliated, if they find out the truth about this period - go through the woods! Russia is such a great power that even its 70th period will not overshadow it!
    1. +4
      3 August 2018 21: 57
      What are the manners of our supporters of democracy - just a little who disagrees, so immediately forest)))
      And having received the prize, by and large, to the peak of the USSR, but still a great writer, Nobel laureate) - next to Shalamov - IMHO, and did not stand close, but he did not go over the hill, so A.I. received the prize
      and about the forests - no, robbed. rather we will send you there)
      1. 0
        4 August 2018 15: 42
        is it worth comparing writers - time will tell ... request in my opinion, Shalamov is morally difficult to read ...
        1. +1
          4 August 2018 19: 34
          I expressed my opinion, for me it was as if it were not harder to read AIS ...
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    1. 0
      3 August 2018 22: 33
      Well, in your opinion, it turns out that you need to beat your parents, and focus solely on school?)) I have to upset or surprise you, but they have a slightly different algorithm) - until a certain enlightenment in the brain, they generally focus on their company, friends, and only then, if it turns out, the preparation for passing the crown of democracy in education begins - ege (
  47. +5
    3 August 2018 21: 36
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    Here are all 17 million and the country hated
    I align myself with all the other citizens of the country whose commies were sitting on their necks

    Part of them, these commies, as you contemptuously call them, among other things, by the filing of such writers as the same AIS defended our country from fascism. Should they be hated too? One must hate his father, his fellow soldiers, only because they, as officers, were with members of the party of the CPSU (B.) - CPSU ???? Oh well
  48. +2
    3 August 2018 21: 36
    Quote: kitt409
    In the current mess and the madhouse, but with the elements of democracy)

    Now, on the contrary, a clearly organized cut of the country by the cooperative "Lake"
    1. +2
      3 August 2018 22: 35
      Well, this is better than the “commies” were before - in your opinion, now digest the fruits of YOUR policy ...
  49. 0
    3 August 2018 21: 37
    Quote: kitt409
    As expected, spiritual values ​​for you do not exist) - it happens)))

    The spiritual value is one - justice, but it is still nowhere and never will be)
    1. 0
      3 August 2018 22: 39
      With your values, it’s clear that you don’t have to continue ...
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    1. +2
      3 August 2018 23: 50
      And even English is not needed to know that the USSR achieved a nuclear PAR only by the mid-80s, so what is the advantage of the USSR?
      WHAT IS THE TALK AT ALL, SO, SURE?
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    1. +1
      3 August 2018 23: 44
      that is, exclusively under pressure? nu nu....
  52. 0
    3 August 2018 22: 50
    Quote: kitt409
    Well, this is better than the “commies” were before - in your opinion, now digest the fruits of YOUR policy ...

    where did you get this from? no need to speak for me. both of them are on the necks of the people - all are closer to the tall aspens am
    but the politics are probably yours - I’ve never voted for Putin or the party in power
    1. +3
      3 August 2018 23: 42
      It’s interesting how you do it - you can’t stand commies’ sense of smell, “....never voted for Putin or the party in power...” - so who will you vote for?
      otherwise you don’t like commies, but you don’t like democrats either, WHO do you like then, anarchy is the mother of order?
  53. +3
    3 August 2018 23: 53
    Quote: ser56
    let's look at the results of the temporary detention center's activities... just without the stamps...
    1) the destruction of agriculture during collectivization - the result of the famine of the early 30s, several million deaths (from 4 to 7) ...
    2) the first five-year plans were poorly carried out - to cover up mismanagement, engineering personnel were destroyed - the Industrial Party...
    3) to seize unlimited power, repressions were carried out...
    4) mediocre foreign policy led to the fact that the USSR was left 1 on 1 with Europe united by Hitler, mediocrely entered the war - the result was terrible losses....
    etc. etc.
    In general, the people of the Republic of Ingushetia reached the standard of living only after his death, somewhere in the late 50s, at the same time there was no more outright malnutrition....

    Are there really still people who believe this nonsense about Stalin?
  54. +1
    4 August 2018 00: 37
    Alexander Isaevich is not a writer. All his work is characterized by the term graphomania.
  55. 0
    4 August 2018 01: 47
    Why did they create the myth about the great writer-truth-worker Solzhenitsyn
    As my daughter used to say when she was a child, “...in order to need...” wassat
  56. +2
    4 August 2018 06: 15
    Each new ideology tries to bury the old one and create its own “heroes”. If they don’t find adequate ones, then they take on the principle of “what is available”... That’s why we are then surprised at the glorification of all Solzhenitsyns, Banderas, Yeltsins, Romanovs and other controversial and contradictory figures.
    1. +1
      5 August 2018 20: 16
      Lenins, Stalins, Beria....
  57. +3
    4 August 2018 13: 43
    When this clown was sent abroad, he came to the airport in kirzachs and a quilted jacket. I had to change his clothes. I read both “One Day..” and “Gulag”. Shalamov is like Beijing to him... laughing tongue wassat
  58. +1
    4 August 2018 13: 45
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    Here are all 17 million and the country hated
    I align myself with all the other citizens of the country whose commies were sitting on their necks

    Part of them, these commies, as you contemptuously call them, among other things, by the filing of such writers as the same AIS defended our country from fascism. Should they be hated too? One must hate his father, his fellow soldiers, only because they, as officers, were with members of the party of the CPSU (B.) - CPSU ???? Oh well

    thank God there wasn’t a single commie in my family at that time
    relatives fought, but not because they wanted to protect the Soviets, but because there was no choice - if you don’t go to war, they’ll shoot you
    normal men did not join the party - only careerists and scoundrels



    Something doesn't look like the stick approach. People voluntarily went to defend their Motherland..
    1. +1
      4 August 2018 19: 08
      Quote: Dzafdet
      People voluntarily went to defend their Motherland..

      So, the choice is really not very big - either you go and stop the fascist, or you don’t go, then the fascist himself will come, and then the fascist will definitely not spare you or your family - no one. And the Nazis certainly did not intend to leave large numbers of men of military age free - they were not fools to get themselves into trouble, and everyone understood this. So whether you want it or not, you will go, and who is in power there is the tenth matter. No, well, of course, we can police, there were some...
  59. Cop
    +2
    4 August 2018 23: 32
    Quote: sxfRipper
    And my question about the article about Zhukov is not enough to understand?
    Of course not enough. One must distinguish between Suvorov and Rezun. Or is it the same thing for you?
    Quote: sxfRipper
    Suvorovets I. And he became them long before he read Icebreaker.....
    And why did the Icebreaker shock you so much... Suvorovets?
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  61. +1
    5 August 2018 06: 18
    Solzhenitsyn has only one price - a noose, because it’s a pity to waste a bullet on him!!!
  62. +1
    5 August 2018 11: 44
    I believe that Solzhenitsyn is a controversial writer-prose writer-publicist and he is worth respecting only for his latest publications, in which he describes the real essence of NATO and the West in general and, in particular, in relation to Russia. Although the Soviet government, indistinguishable from the CPSU, gradually shook with such deafening force that, unfortunately, it buried the good things about the Soviet government itself thanks to the inflated bureaucracy and their golden youth. that still comes back in the form of scoundrels Mara Bagdasaryan and various Khodorkovskys
  63. 0
    5 August 2018 11: 53
    Cop,
    It’s a little easier for me, well, I don’t have a boss as such laughing and most likely it won't be...
    As for the courts of tribunals and troikas - yes, I am the chairman personally his a special meeting, as well as a tribunal - don’t you have something like that???) IS THIS SO?)))
    1. Cop
      +2
      6 August 2018 21: 01
      Quote: kitt409
      Cop,It’s a little easier for me, well, I don’t have a boss as such laughing and most likely it won't be...
      Well, God bless him and his superiors, you will be a “lone agent of chaos”..... laughing
      Quote: kitt409
      As for the courts of tribunals and troikas - yes, I am the chairman personally his a special meeting, as well as a tribunal - don’t you have something like that???) IS THIS SO?)))
      It’s not like that for me, I prefer a jury trial, it’s when 12 idiots with a smart look try to understand whether the prosecutor is “persecuting” or the lawyer is “treating”......
      1. 0
        6 August 2018 21: 10
        And I even know how this “trying to understand” ends laughing
        "Lone Agent of Chaos" began to carry out the task on your orders laughing
        1. Cop
          +2
          6 August 2018 23: 02
          Quote: kitt409
          And I even know how this “trying to understand” ends laughing
          Well, in the film “12” they showed what. How do you think your personal.....special meeting would end in this case? winked
          Quote: kitt409
          "Lone Agent of Chaos" began to carry out the task on your orders laughing
          Well then, listen to the battle order! 1.Re-read all the works of the laureate, especially his “Archipelago”. 2. Study Zemsky's work "All the Victims of Stalin." 3. Read Nikolai Yezhov’s order No. 00447 and Decree “seven-eight-thirty-two” 4. Read the materials of the commission to assess the losses suffered by the USSR in the Second World War. Report on execution.... laughing
          1. 0
            6 August 2018 23: 52
            Well, one thing is almost consoling - you have little experience in issuing COMBAT orders, otherwise the deadline WOULD have been indicated, and now the train has already left, however laughing
            The first point already completed and oh, how NOT yesterday... moreover, the materials of at least two dissertations on the work and life of AIS are not exactly memorized, but read in sufficient detail lol
            point three was read back during perestroika, initially on Pushka
            I looked through Zemsky, but nothing more, we’ll get to him...
            So everything will be done - but not right away... laughing
            1. Cop
              +2
              7 August 2018 22: 59
              Quote: kitt409
              Well, one thing is almost consoling - you have little experience in issuing COMBAT orders, otherwise the deadline WOULD have been specified...
              Well, it also consoles me that it seems you don’t have a lot of experience in carrying out combat orders, otherwise you would know that the order is first understood, then carried out, and only then they express their... dissenting opinion. You were ordered to RE-READ...
              Quote: kitt409
              So everything will be done - but not right away... laughing
              Well, good luck agent..., I wanted to write kitt409, and then I thought, what kind of guy do you have..., as if the script came up with it....:). That's the thing: Vetrov, Suvorov, and even Alex and Eustace are fine too...:). Imagine, I say: Alex to Eustace and blah-blah-blah, and you in response to Eustace to Alex and blah-blah-blah..:). Yes, the local “watcher” will simply turn grey. And if we also start using telegrams..... laughing
              1. 0
                8 August 2018 12: 05
                As for re-reading - more than 5 times I re-read only what I like or something that caught my attention, or was remembered by me - well, just a small example - in fact, even during perestroika I already heard about Suvorov-Rezun from older, experienced and informed colleagues according to my hobbies, but when someone’s unknown magazine, in my opinion Aurora, although I could be wrong, it’s been a while, I wanted to ask my aunt inside, but there was a break, I sat down next to her on a bench and started leafing through it - I came across that , how Suvorov the company commander fights - on alarm, in the park, and beyond - and it “hooked” me so much that I did not do a very good thing - I took this someone else’s magazine to read, then, however, everything was no longer so exciting, but that's a completely different question...
                and I already re-read the AIS in total and mostly partly for work, I already wrote above about dissertations, how much can you do??? laughing
                P.S. I finally returned the magazine a little later laughing laughing
  64. +1
    5 August 2018 12: 37
    I wonder who is the author of the article, the nameless one, or the editor-in-chief?
    Who is itching, who is so “sick” of the fame of a writer. And what a manner of poisoning those who have already left. Where does this information come from, that he did not fight, but chilled out in the sound reconnaissance batteries, that the author is also an artilleryman?
    But in my opinion, Solzhenitsyn is a talented writer and a real person, not a coward or a scoundrel. But who is the author of the article?
  65. 0
    6 August 2018 00: 10
    Who is interested in knowing the real truth about the “truth teller” Solzhenitsyn and where this “luminary” got the information from, then watch this video (it’s long)
  66. 0
    7 August 2018 08: 35
    """""".......If we already remembered about the camps and about the minimum terms of those years, then we need to answer the question: why did Stalin believe that the punishment for those materialized and prone to betrayal should be exactly 8 years ?
    This question can be answered if we remember that, among other things, I. Stalin was an excellent esotericist and psychologist. He knew very well that only stress and his conscious choice can change a person. With stress in the Gulag system, everything was as it should be. It was organized in the camps at the highest level. It was worse with a conscious choice. Will a person want to change his mental attitudes, or rather codes, or not? However, Joseph Vissarionovich hoped that people would eventually understand why they were imprisoned and try to change themselves for a cloudless, normal life after prison.
    But it takes exactly seven years for a complete change in consciousness. During this period, if a person works on himself, even genes change. This has been proven by modern science. But why did Joseph Vissarionovich determine the period of 8 years? It’s simple: the eighth year was given to convicts to fully, most firmly consolidate the new program.
    """"..... By the way, many people who served time in the Stalinist Gulag for their attitude to values ​​and to life itself assured that they had no grievances either against Joseph Vissarionovich or his entourage. When actor G. Zhzhonov was asked if he was offended by the Soviet authorities for spending several years in a camp, he replied that prison taught him to understand life. And he has no complaints against the Soviet government, because he was in prison for the job. But this is about the benefits of occupational therapy......""""""
    1. 0
      8 August 2018 15: 28
      and under what government were they asking G. Zhzhenov? request Maybe he already had enough time?
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  68. 0
    9 August 2018 01: 28
    The most disgusting thing is that the lies of this ka clog the heads of children at school. In general, we need to stop writing literature in school. You need to give grammar. We need to teach children to express their thoughts, write documents, and think in general. We need to look at some works of fiction as examples, explaining to children what fiction is. But imposing any works and wasting time studying them is already a thing of the past. Literature is entertainment and a person can read whatever he wants and corresponds to his mood and attitude. Before the revolution, Russian literature was taught together with logic and not with the study of works of art.
  69. -1
    9 August 2018 10: 56
    I liked the article. I read Solzhinitsyn a lot. At the moment of reading, thoughts began to creep in that much was embellished and did not fit in with logic, numbers and the capabilities of the human body. I concluded for myself that this was all a collection of camp tales.
  70. 0
    9 August 2018 13: 55
    Quote: kitt409
    on most points of your opuses

    announce the list - I’m talking about your lies more specifically! bully
    1) you lied and continue it on most points of your opus
    “2) those who know - this is you” - of course - I lived then and fed my family, and you are parents - is there a difference? bully
    “3) look at point 1 - everything is already written there, you also need to be able to lie, you still haven’t learned.”
    and I'm writing the truth request
    “4) you again DID NOT understand anything, if you DO NOT have enough brains or intelligence to organize normal supplies and food for your family - these are YOUR PROBLEMS) my family ate and eats quality products, not from the store, and special distributors have nothing to do with it either. .."
    hmm, logic was taken from the scoop... in normal countries, people buy in stores for money, and do not “organize” request
    “5) you think that you have high-quality stores and you buy normal goods there, continue to think so, the fact that this is NOT true - well, you don’t know about it, well, that means it’s not))))”
    stream of consciousness of someone offended by life... bully
    "7) how is this possible, a person knows that this car is bad, but he drives it for 10 years???? )))"
    but there were no others on sale... request You didn’t know about this when you were a child in the USSR... bully
    1. 0
      9 August 2018 15: 44
      On top of everything else, you somehow forgot how to understand the meaning of what was written - who fed whom, read “on vacation” and understand what it is, what’s stopping you??? laughing
      Also, attempts like I’m older - get over it, younger, in army parlance - “salabon” you yourself also wrote in what year, what and where, at that time I was already in charge of a lot of things and had already changed my shoulder straps more than once )))
      family, he fed it here, well, HOW you fed it, it’s already clear - what was found from the leftover food in the store, that’s what they fed it - well, let your family ask you these questions, I’m NOT interested in how you fed your own and I feed you already wrote, if you don’t have enough knowledge to understand the differences - these are your problems, which “got”, which “scoop” ???))) you can only think in cliches and know how,
      the same applies to cars - well, these are also problems for you and your family...
      And your fairy tales about how you can just go and buy food in other countries - well, tell that to your point 10 laughing
      And there you still need to find a normal one, but when did such little things occupy you and people like you, right?)
      1. +1
        9 August 2018 16: 52
        1) Discussing life with you in the USSR is ridiculous, you didn’t live there and are soaring in idylls... bully
        2) Your attempt to insult your opponent is understandable - you have no arguments bully
        3) The level of my knowledge is such that you are an illiterate clown compared to me, but I politely try to show this with arguments, but they don’t reach you... crying
        4) As for feeding your family - just imagine - go to the store, and there is only canned food, bread not baked inside, margarine and eggs... Also 2nd grade noodles/vermicelli, which must be washed when cooking... And this is reality, I I'm glad you didn't find her... hi
        1. 0
          9 August 2018 20: 22
          You have illusions, and you are simply NOT able to understand that even in those days it was possible to feed a family with other products and in other ways, but these are already problems for your family, if you were not given this, this is the kind of breadwinner they got...
          And your fables about the fact that there was only this in the store - leave it to someone else, I repeat again - I lived, and more than you, but such idiots as you are trying to tell me how I lived)))
          Well, try, your attempts make me neither warm nor cold, and your attempts to “show off” with your knowledge - leave them for your family, they need it more, my regalia and the rest are enough for me laughing
          You don’t even look like a clown yet, this is an unattainable level for you, improve your knowledge and suddenly a miracle will happen for you... laughing lol
          1. 0
            10 August 2018 11: 56
            "But idiots like you are trying to tell me how I lived"
            Yes, you live in the USSR, if you like it that way, you all want to go back to your childhood bully
            “My regalia” doesn’t seem like it to me - since you constantly talk about them... I recommend reading the basics of psychology... for those in the know, your opus is a clownery feel
            1. 0
              10 August 2018 18: 49
              Just telling you how disgusting it was to live in the USSR, just trying to spread your “information” will no longer work
        2. +1
          12 August 2018 09: 55
          ...you’ve had enough of this, yes, there were queues - people were *stocking up* after work, and everyone’s work ended at the same time - this is the reason for the queues...
  71. 0
    9 August 2018 15: 24
    ser56,
    And who is there to discuss this with? With you? It’s not even funny, it’s enough to at least look at the wiki to understand what level of education was in the Republic of Ingushetia, BUT even this source is apparently not under your control, well, it happens laughing study the hardware further...
    But you and others like you think it’s normal to throw out a piece of history that lasts a few decades laughing
    And what you were just thinking about under the Tsar, you are already presenting as almost accomplished, yes, accomplished, under the SV, and all the other speculators go to the garden...
    A little more and nuclear weapons will also be conceived in the Republic of Ingushetia - you laughing
    1. 0
      9 August 2018 17: 00
      1) Is your source of knowledge Wiki? bully
      2) The level of education in the Republic of Ingushetia was very high - even graduates of secondary education knew 2 modern languages, and high school students also knew classical languages. I suggested you compare the tsarist educational institutions and the Soviet ones - you remained silent.... I note that sometimes the USSR was built not badly - Moscow State University or UPI, but this is rare, while all the tsarist universities still inspire respect, and the buildings of the gymnasiums are beautiful and comfortable... bully
      3) you were given this nuclear weapons... hi It’s quite trivial to do this - just remember the names of the tsarist physicists, many of whom became Soviet... request
      3) The history of Russia cannot be changed, the RSFSR is a short and rather dark and bloody period. request I note that you and others like you are ready to forget the history of Russia for the sake of this period... feel
      4)
      1. 0
        9 August 2018 20: 08
        It’s strange that some people, like you, even read the comments, or do you also need to explain the meaning of “at least” in relation to the wiki?)
        alas, you will do everything yourself, oops, I’ll drop everything and start posting the numbers of archived cases here, wait...
        and we were talking about MASS, that is, universal education, what does the quality of universities have to do with it???)))
        It’s you and people like you, for unknown reasons and with a tenacity worthy of much better use, who are all trying to prove that the USSR is only bad and it would be better to exclude this period altogether - well, no one forbids you to dream, keep talking about what Your brothers are not very good with knowledge, so this never bothered you laughing
        I am interested in the ENTIRE history of our country, without exception, no matter how much you want the opposite
        1. 0
          10 August 2018 12: 02
          “MASS, that is, universal education, what does the quality of universities have to do with it?”
          hmm, you are simply surprising with your helplessness.... request Universities graduate those who teach at secondary school and below...
          “that the USSR is only bad”, unlike you, I am specific...
          “It would be better to exclude this period altogether” - alas, this is not possible... request But without the USSR there would not have been today’s events in Ukraine - the infection of nationalism was introduced by the Bolsheviks! And they annexed Donbass to it, and then Crimea request
          “that your brotherhood is not very good with knowledge,” that is why you are moving away from specifics and throwing around slogans... bully
          “no matter how much you would like the opposite”, personally, you are violet to me - in our time, after the discovery of all the horrors of real socialism, both in the USSR and in the world, its supporter can be either a fool or a scoundrel... request
          1. 0
            10 August 2018 18: 54
            And you surprise with your inability, real or ostentatious, well, absolutely NOT to understand the meaning of what they write to you about, they wrote to you about the fact that it was under the SV that universal education actually took place - you answer about the quality of universities (your option is that this was all planned under Father the Tsar, it’s not worth proposing, a lot of things were planned there, but much less were implemented) laughing - translated into a more popular language, for your better understanding - “buzzing - not moving bags” laughing
          2. 0
            12 August 2018 21: 17
            How difficult it is for you to understand, although this has already been written before, and more than once, that I see in those times not only minuses, but also pluses - you have almost one hundred percent going into the minus, your exceptions only confirm the rule)
            AND TELL YOUR TALES TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT EVERYTHING WAS ONLY BAD)) - if you and only you are NOT adapted to the realities of life, then these are already your and your relatives' problems...
            You can stay with them.
  72. +1
    9 August 2018 15: 29
    Unlike the literary and artistic fiction of the early Solzhenitsyn, his “200 Years Together” claims to be a high-quality and convincing historical overview with an emphasis on Russophilia (and “false Russophilia,” as one of the commentators noted, was not noticed there). It looks like an attempt to turn the locomotive in the other direction, towards Russia. For a person of "age" such an act is worth a lot. We must also not forget that Solzhenitsyn is not on his own, but behind him are certain (openly Russophobic) forces, and in their game against Russia he was a significant figure. Therefore, his turn in our direction, of course, had to be supported. Moreover, in the difficult “post-perestroika” times, he arrived in Russia and, in the end, died on this land. Unlike, for example, Yevtushenko. In information and ideological wars, we should not neglect anyone’s help; this is not the situation we are in now. And as for exaltation..., request , then yes, we went a little too far...
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  74. 0
    7 December 2018 07: 46
    I’m reading the comments and I’m amazed at this little gentleman (Solzhenitsyn), a decent piece of scum, and this is clear even without a deep analysis of his work. And the controversy surrounding this scum is as if he nominated himself as a presidential candidate... It’s either good or nothing about the dead, of course, but I can’t say anything good about THIS, and I don’t consider it necessary to remain silent because of him....
  75. 0
    14 December 2018 08: 05
    Here ! And Putin unveiled a monument to him