Principled Israel. CAA breaks through to the place of the death of the colonel in Quneitra

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Details of the incident with the Syrian military aircraft in the Golan Heights appear in the Middle East media. Recall that on the eve of the Israeli air defense system, as stated by the IDF command, the fact of crossing the Israeli air borders by the Syrian means of combat was recorded aviation. The plane, according to these reports, entered Israeli airspace to a depth of 2 km, after which it was hit by two Patriot air defense missiles.

The headquarters of the Syrian troops confirm the loss of the aircraft, noting that we are talking about the Su-22М4 aircraft. This is an export version of the Su-17М4 aircraft, which was produced in the USSR in 1984-1990. Su-22М4 - the plane that is piloted by one pilot. Therefore, the initial media reports about the “unknown fate of the second pilot” can be commented by the fact that there was no “second pilot” due to the design of a combat aircraft.



However, some Lebanese sources claim that the Israelis shot down the Su-24 bomber of the Syrian air force.

At the same time, all sources agree on the data that the plane took off to perform a combat mission from the airfield T-4, which was previously repeatedly subjected to rocket attacks by the armed forces of foreign countries.

The data on the dead pilot, whose body fell into the hands of terrorists just a few kilometers from the dividing line with Israel on the Golan Heights, has been confirmed. This is the Syrian Air Force Colonel Umran Mare (Omran Marie) from Tartus. Colonel Mare was considered by the Syrian Air Force to be one of the most experienced and skillful pilots, behind whom there were numerous successful combat missions.

Principled Israel. CAA breaks through to the place of the death of the colonel in Quneitra


The Syrian command notes that the pilot performed the task of striking the positions of the terrorists of the so-called “Islamic state” (* prohibited in the Russian Federation) in the north-western corridor of the Yarmuk river basin. It was added that the plane could, for the implementation of the maneuver, enter the airspace for a few seconds over the part of the Golan that official Damascus calls the territory occupied by Israel. It does not comment on the statements of the IDF that the pilot allegedly did not respond to signals from the Israeli side to enter Israeli airspace.

A map of the military situation in the provinces of Daraa and Quneitra in the south of the Syrian Arab Republic is below.



The plane fell in the area of ​​Sayda settlement, which is currently controlled by ISIS terrorists *. The SAA assault troops are trying to get through to this place.

It is noted that in carrying out the combat mission the aircraft did not threaten the security of Israel. But Israel decided to be principled, that the militants in the south of Syria had already appreciated, expressing enthusiasm for the precise attack of the SIRM missiles on the Syrian military aircraft.
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    1. +17
      25 July 2018 08: 35
      Israel has once again proved that it lives on Arab wisdom:
      “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
      1. +22
        25 July 2018 10: 22
        Quote: Thrall
        in Arabic wisdom:
        “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

        As one wise Odessa Jew said: "But no matter how wise the East is, there are lands whose wisdom is even more eastern."
        It would be nice if they also knew Chinese wisdom:
        "If the tiger ate your enemy - do not think that the tiger has become your friend!"
        1. +1
          26 July 2018 21: 06
          Quote: Weyland
          As one wise Odessa Jew said: "But no matter how wise the East is, there are lands whose wisdom is even more eastern."
          It would be nice for them to know Chinese wisdom:
          "If the tiger ate your enemy - do not think that the tiger has become your friend!"


          Two beggars are sitting. Each of them has a hat and an inscription. In one: "Serve the poor Jew," in the second: "Serve the poor Arab." The hat of the first is empty, and the hat of the second is a lot of money. A passerby approaches a Jew, throws a ruble and says:

          - Listen, change the inscription, otherwise you will remain hungry.

          When the passerby left, the Jew turned to his neighbor and said:

          “Do you understand, Izya?” This person will teach us commerce!
      2. +5
        25 July 2018 10: 25
        From this it follows that the Russian Federation and Syria are enemies of Israel, so why the Russian Federation so joyfully accepts its obvious enemy in the Kremlin and does all the indulgences, even prohibits shooting at the Israeli Air Force, striking at its allies ... But the Russian UAVs were shot down just now, losses on whom to write off, on the friendship of B. Natanyahu with V. Putin ...
        1. +5
          25 July 2018 12: 07
          Quote: Vladimir 5
          From this it follows that the Russian Federation and Syria are enemies of Israel, so why the Russian Federation so joyfully accepts its obvious enemy in the Kremlin and does all the indulgences, even prohibits shooting at the Israeli Air Force, striking at its allies ... But the Russian UAVs were shot down just now, losses on whom to write off, on the friendship of B. Natanyahu with V. Putin ...

          In the Kremlin and Ribbentrop accepted. Geopolitics, sir. (Fail to her abyss).
        2. 0
          26 July 2018 05: 40
          There is an assumption that the Kremlin is a bit much "shortened" or those who want to get closer to them am , that’s what EVERYTHING does for this - and it doesn’t bother to bomb Syria, although it prevents us from destroying the terrorists faster, but on earth there are not “educated” people who are dying and undermining themselves with grenades, and ignore the official level of terrorists’s humanitarian access to Israeli territory (not a word half blinked, although before that the entire Foreign Ministry had gone to sarcasm about the "white helmets"). am
          Oh, one autrient didn’t, oh, "didn’t." If it’s good, it’s necessary to quickly finish off the terrorists, preferably having obtained permission to use nuclear weapons from Assad and dump them from Tedov — so that this boiler with manure (Middle East) would "explode" without us.
      3. +10
        25 July 2018 11: 41
        Quote: Thrall
        Israel has once again proved that it lives on Arab wisdom:
        “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

        It is a pity, of course, of a man who bravely fought with the enemies of his people, boldly looking into their faces, but was meanly killed in the back by some cowardly nits.
        1. 0
          26 July 2018 05: 41
          Yes, judging by the information of Izrail himself (although he may be specifically bullied), it was a "woman of low social responsibility" and posted a photo.
    2. +18
      25 July 2018 08: 37
      We will listen to what this NATO member will say (and most importantly) when it comes to Idlib. So far, this “member” has been preying on Syrian oil for years, turned Turkey into a jihadist passage yard, seized part of Syria, and a couple of days ago began importing concrete fencing in Idlib (I wonder who he is going to fence off Idlib from?). And then we'll see how Erdogan will get out of Syria and when.
      Erdogan’s statements look especially “ironic” after he shot down a Russian plane.
      1. +45
        25 July 2018 08: 41
        Quote: dolfi1
        We will listen to what this NATO member will say (and most importantly) when it comes to Idlib. So far, this “member” has been preying on Syrian oil for years, turned Turkey into a jihadist passage yard, seized part of Syria, and a couple of days ago began importing concrete fencing in Idlib (I wonder who he is going to fence off Idlib from?). And then we'll see how Erdogan will get out of Syria and when.
        Erdogan’s statements look especially “ironic” after he shot down a Russian plane.

        Yes, in BV Israel and Turkey - two boots of a pair .... pulled on American legs ... stand each other ...
        1. +20
          25 July 2018 08: 47
          Hello ! hi
          Quote: Black
          Israel and Turkey - two pair of boots .... pulled

          That's better and more believable.
          1. MPN
            +17
            25 July 2018 09: 11
            Hi Pash! hi Yesterday I spoke about Israel (the word Israel, Israelis, I didn’t use Jews), I probably dialed about 70 +, I got a hat on these, wept, cried, I deleted the post ... And they couldn’t even answer .. We sniffed, sniffed and snapped according to the old Jewish tradition went the other way ... laughing
            1. +5
              25 July 2018 09: 14
              Hello, namesake! hi Your example is very revealing. How did the Romans broadcast:
              O tempora, o mores!
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          2. +2
            25 July 2018 09: 44
            and who dangles between those legs?
      2. +10
        25 July 2018 10: 22
        Quote: dolfi1
        We will listen to what this NATO member will say (and most importantly) when it comes to Idlib. So far, this “member” has been preying on Syrian oil for years, turned Turkey into a jihadist passage yard, seized part of Syria, and a couple of days ago began importing concrete fencing in Idlib (I wonder who he is going to fence off Idlib from?). And then we'll see how Erdogan will get out of Syria and when.

        Have you read the topic? Israel shot down a Syrian plane, and you are transferring arrows to Erdogan, although you, as a representative of this country, would have to make excuses for your Israel. The plane did not pose a threat to the Jews and they knew it.
        Quote: dolfi1
        Erdogan’s statements look especially “ironic” after he shot down a Russian plane.

        The Americans “shot down” the plane through their six in the person of Turkish Prime Minister Davutoglu, who himself admitted that it was he who gave the order to bring down the plane. By the way, where is Davutoglu now?
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          1. +9
            25 July 2018 11: 11
            ABOUT! The paid one leaned out. Learn Russian first pindovskaya subst.
          2. +9
            25 July 2018 11: 16
            A Korean plane flew over the territory of the USSR and went deep hundreds of kilometers and was over secret military bases, and this is also a big question! There are so many questions about that incident!
            And after a series of maneuvers, a huge airliner appeared in front of the eyes of the Su-15 pilot, illuminated by lights and flashing lights. Pilot Osipovich led his Su-15 to the left, bypassing the Boeing. At the same time, it gave a signal on-board lights and wing swings of the Su-15. Then he repeated these actions on the right side. However, he did not receive a response signal from the Boeing.

            “At that moment, I remembered that Osipovich flew out on a mission from the third readiness,” recalled Army General Anatoly Kornukov, “and in such readiness the Su-15 was with suspended gondolas, in each a double-barreled gun. Four trunks. This is a powerful weapon. Therefore, he ordered the air regiment to Osipovich to open warning fire. The pilot fired almost all the shells. Only four guns remained. Why did the Boeing pilot not notice this fire, or did not hear it? This is simply unbelievable, because the four gun barrels, which are very fast-firing, give a large emission of gas flames, like from an airplane engine with afterburner. Moreover, at night, such a flame can be seen very far. It’s simply impossible not to notice him. ”

            The situation is extreme. It was necessary to make a decision. The intruder was already above the secret military bases of Sakhalin, and our planes ran out of fuel. Major General Anatoly Kornukov, commander of the 40th Fighter Aviation Division, ordered the destruction of the target.

            “When this command arrived to the Su-15 pilot,” said Anatoly Kornukov, “he reported that he had stepped forward. After that, I took the microphone of the transmitter of the radio station in my hand and ordered - perform a right-hand turn on the afterburner. The pilot complied with my command and replied that the remaining fuel was not enough on the plane. I told him - you’ll sit in Khomutovo. He turned on the afterburner so as not to fall into a tailspin because the speed of the Su-15 at that moment was small. And on two full afterburners energetically completed a turn, in fact, a complete turn, and went into the rear hemisphere of the intruder to a distance of about 1,5-1,8 kilometers. "The readiness of the missiles for launch immediately flashed on the plane, and the pilot launched two missiles in one gulp."
          3. +9
            25 July 2018 11: 46
            Quote: Vtoroj
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Israel shot down a Syrian plane
            And they did it right.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            The plane was not a threat
            Is that your sofa radar said so? The Korean Grazgdan plane is not a NES threat at all, but you shot it down, and you still dance.

            This is you write dill, which shot down a plane flying from Israel and a Boeing over the Donbass.
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          5. +2
            25 July 2018 12: 53
            Quote: Vtoroj
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Israel shot down a Syrian plane
            And they did it right.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            The plane was not a threat
            Is that your sofa radar said so? The Korean Grazgdan plane is not a NES threat at all, but you shot it down, and you still dance.


            Well, if you remembered about the Korean plane, then tell me - for what, Indians? Well, or - the Japanese in the 45th? wassat I immediately remember Zadornov - “because you ...” and what did he forget about here in VO ??
        2. +3
          26 July 2018 05: 46
          You dear have not yet added - Israel is an Occupant in the Golan and therefore there is NO and there can be no talk of "flew into Javrei territory."
          Oh, not in vain and not "at libel" - they beat, hung, burned, drowned and in general, for every reason they annihilated "one people" in different centuries throughout Europe and completely different Peoples, oh not in vain and obviously there was no "in the Peoples" problem .
      3. +10
        25 July 2018 10: 37
        Quote: dolfi1
        We will listen to what this member of NATO will say (and most importantly will do) when it comes to Idlib.

        And I wonder, what kind of signals did the Israeli side give to the Syrian plane, to which it did not react? 1,5 -2 km for an aircraft is a matter of seconds. But Israel, apparently, dispatchers are simply unreal balabols, since they had time to whimper on the air.
        1. +2
          25 July 2018 10: 53
          Quote: tomket
          And I’m wondering what kind of signals the Israeli side was giving to the Syrian plane,
          And you fly and see.
        2. 0
          26 July 2018 05: 47
          Remember how the Turks otmazyvatsya that 25 times our downed Su-24 warned am , very similar.
      4. +2
        25 July 2018 11: 08
        Israel-Tobacco, USA-Sherkhan (Book of Mowgli)
      5. +4
        25 July 2018 11: 50
        Quote: dolfi1
        preying on Syrian oil for years, turned Turkey into a passage yard for jihadists,

        Israel does the same thing, and still heals the little ones and pays them for their dirty tricks against the Syrians.
      6. 0
        26 July 2018 05: 42
        Herdogan should be happy that the Kremlin is not like me sitting - in place of Istanbul would have already been a nuclear crater. am
    3. +30
      25 July 2018 08: 43
      Quote: Black
      the terrorist state

      it is not for nothing that they say that the most cruel slaveholders are obtained from former slaves. Therefore, the United States and Israel so mock at other nations, being in the illusion of permissiveness.
      1. +23
        25 July 2018 08: 45
        Quote: scientist
        No wonder they say that the most cruel slaveholders are obtained from former slaves

        wow .... "the slave does not dream of freedom but of his slaves" (Cicero)
      2. +1
        26 July 2018 21: 27
        Quote: scientist
        it is not for nothing that they say that the most cruel slaveholders are obtained from former slaves. Therefore, the United States and Israel so mock at other nations, being in the illusion of permissiveness.


        and which of the serfs get?
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      1. +27
        25 July 2018 08: 58
        You go on and on, and Russia is also a terrorist state. Skripal, English addicts, Donald Trump - the list goes on and on. Peaceful and defenseless igilovites ...
      2. +15
        25 July 2018 09: 02
        Quote: Wendigo
        All coalition allies of Russia are states supporting terrorism not only abroad, but also in their own countries.

        Well, why are you so about the United States. Yes, and what they are our ally ... so ... partner ...
        1. +4
          25 July 2018 09: 46
          Quote: Volodin
          Well, why are you so much about the United States.

          So nowhere have I ever called the USA an ally of Russia.
          Quote: Volodin
          so ... partner ...

          And, unfortunately, the states are not a partner to us ... If the USA of Russia were a partner, in Russia everyone would live much richer. Look at the US GDP today (and even more so 15-20 years ago) and compare with our trade turnover with them, how many unrealized prospects? But alas, as an evil woman for the electorate, the United States was more needed than an economic partner. hi
          1. +9
            25 July 2018 10: 14
            Quote: Wendigo
            But alas, as an evil woman for the electorate, the United States was more needed than an economic partner.

            Do you believe that the states want Russia's economic recovery? Are you kidding again?
            1. +2
              25 July 2018 10: 22
              Quote: Hottabych
              Do you believe that the states want Russia's economic recovery?

              I believe that the United States wants an economic recovery for itself, and this cannot be done without mutually beneficial trade. China removed 400 million people from poverty in the first place due to the fact that the United States wanted an economic recovery for itself. hi
              1. +10
                25 July 2018 10: 40
                and who holds you here? what kind of sadomasochism? move there ... otherwise you will choke with bile ...
              2. +2
                25 July 2018 20: 08
                Quote: Wendigo
                China removed 400 million people from poverty in the first place due to the fact that the United States wanted an economic recovery for itself.

                Well, you're not as naive as you are trying to show yourself here ?! lol
                The states, desiring an economic upsurge for themselves, along the way, wanted to plant a pig of the USSR in the form of China. All adults remember this. winked Are you an adult, Wendigo? And they planted MYSELF ...
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            1. +3
              25 July 2018 11: 10
              They are burdened Russians. And they’re also well organized .... as if a boss is standing on each of them ... And I also noticed that almost everyone here has several accounts, which they actively use. And why do they need all this ... (rhetorical question)
              In general, they are somehow muddy ... wink
              1. +1
                25 July 2018 11: 55
                Quote: Wendigo
                In general, they are somehow muddy ...
                Yeah, the new Russian intellectuals, a nickle per line.
              2. +7
                25 July 2018 13: 14
                Quote: Wendigo
                In general, they are somehow muddy ... wink

                Ah, the "child of crystalline purity" has pinched ...
                Quote: Wendigo
                If the USA of Russia were a partner, in Russia everyone would live much richer.

                What, Andrei, the hosts do not take over the hill? Apparently, it will be necessary here, to work out nishtyaki for a long time ... laughing And then they will merge it as unnecessary, because traitors, even among enemies, are not respected. Yes So an unenviable end awaits such organisms. am
            2. +5
              25 July 2018 11: 21
              And you that the problems of Hussein Gaddafi of Ukraine of Yugoslavia were so interested that you destroyed these countries! And we are saving Syria from you. So slam shut ...........
        2. +5
          25 July 2018 09: 59
          from such ... partners ... be treated later
      3. +5
        25 July 2018 09: 38
        You probably have a sarcoma of the brain, since you carry it, and even in the morning
      4. +9
        25 July 2018 09: 39
        Quote: Wendigo
        I will probably disappoint you very much ....

        Well no! You probably make us laugh a lot ...
        Quote: Wendigo
        your beloved Syria

        Beloved .... After what your beloved countries have done with Syria, it is scary to "look".
        1. +2
          25 July 2018 09: 54
          Quote: Hottabych
          After what your beloved countries did to Syria, it is scary to “look”.

          I partly agree with you ... In general, the United States did not need to intervene in any way there, like in Libya, for example, and in Iraq too. It was necessary to make them allies, trade with them, and through them rule all BL. But it was necessary to deal with Iran yesterday.
          1. +5
            25 July 2018 09: 59
            What did Iran annoy you with?
            1. +5
              25 July 2018 10: 09
              Probably the fact that he is still whole?
              1. +2
                25 July 2018 10: 15
                Quote: Hottabych
                Probably the fact that he is still whole?

                Probably the fact that Iran is a champion both in sponsoring terrorism around the world, and in its own organization. feel Or is this not a reason for you?
                1. +3
                  25 July 2018 15: 14
                  Quote: Wendigo
                  Or is this not a reason for you?


                  Without evidence - of course, no reason!

                  Quote: Wendigo
                  Probably the fact that Iran is a champion both in sponsoring terrorism around the world, and in its own organization.

                  To the champions, who are no longer able to hide it, he - oh how far.
                2. 0
                  26 July 2018 05: 51
                  What was there in Iran-Contras, whose whose state, up to the level of the president, was lit up around the world in sponsorship and the supply of weapons to terrorists? like the USA, oh oh well)) this cannot be the same - "white elves" am
          2. +6
            25 July 2018 10: 07
            Quote: Wendigo
            I partly agree with you ...

            Yes Yes. In part. But basically, it means I do not agree. Arrange a war in which more than a million people were burned, trying to destroy a couple of states, sponsor a lot of dubious gangs, including the same IG, cause a monstrous wave of migration, support the war for decades (say, in Afghanistan, and in Syria with Iraq, the Americans they only imitated the fight against ISIS until Russia intervened there) - this, of course, is not terrorism, but "just private mistakes." And would you, my friend, go to hell?
            1. +1
              25 July 2018 10: 31
              You set out all the products of the agitation industry for 18 years of round-the-clock work ... It seems to be 18 years of work, and ........... everything fit in one short comment ... crying
              1. +7
                25 July 2018 11: 02
                Quote: Wendigo
                You set out all the products of the agitation industry for 18 years of round-the-clock work ..

                From the fact that this is a product of the agitation industry, it is not rotten - unlike your nonsense, repeating the agitation of the State Department.
      5. 0
        25 July 2018 10: 38
        Quote: Wendigo
        Quote: Black
        About Israel, one of NATO members has long spoken out - "this is a terrorist state"

        I will probably disappoint you very much .... but the terrorist state is just your beloved Syria, and Iran by itself too. All of Russia's coalition allies are states supporting terrorism not only abroad, but also in their countries. hi

        Is it about ISIS or not?
      6. +6
        25 July 2018 11: 13
        Sounds like Wendigo from gay liberals
      7. 0
        25 July 2018 16: 32
        You didn’t let me disappoint, you didn’t find words from you that really weren’t among you.
    5. +3
      25 July 2018 09: 21
      Israel such a "principled" will soon come sideways.
      1. wax
        0
        25 July 2018 09: 35
        Well, yes: adherence to principles.
    6. +5
      25 July 2018 09: 24
      [/ quote] It is noted that when performing a combat mission, the aircraft did not threaten the security of Israel. But Israel decided to show integrity, which was already appreciated by militants in southern Syria, who expressed their enthusiasm for the exact strike by air defense missiles at a Syrian military aircraft. [quote]

      All this phrase says .. Israelis have no conscience ..
      1. +2
        25 July 2018 13: 02
        Quote: ser-pov
        Israelis have no conscience ..

        They have a conscience, but their own, Israeli. It is beneficial for Israel to support the war in Syria, and if the fire goes out, they will quietly throw firewood, they will splash butter. And they will pretend that they are not even at all involved in business, they simply walked by. As usual in general.
        1. +1
          25 July 2018 16: 33
          Israel is Annushka of the Middle East. A bottle of butter is always ready.
    7. +1
      25 July 2018 12: 15
      50 black
      Today, 08: 22
      About Israel, one of NATO members has long spoken out - "this is a terrorist state"
      If only a member of NATO, this is a vivid representative of the Sunni world. The Sunnis (to put it mildly) no longer want to endure the Israeli dictatorship in BV. Sunnis are already fed up (huge financial, economic and human losses) with US-Israeli PROJECTS, such as igil, al-qaeda, jabhat and so on.
      Losses and victims of the Sunnis, and prizes and income from the geldings and Israel. It seems that the Sunnis are no longer satisfied with them and they will serve the USA only if they throw an “corpse” of Israel at their feet.
  2. +22
    25 July 2018 08: 27
    Colonel is not young. War exhausts and leaves its imprint on the face.
    Earth rest in peace!
    1. +4
      25 July 2018 13: 06
      Quote: shura7782
      Colonel is not young. War exhausts and leaves its imprint on the face.
      Earth rest in peace!


      I join ... it's a pity for such people ... not so many Syria have left ...
  3. +21
    25 July 2018 08: 36
    Six-pointed terrorism on Syrian soil continues to go along the rut.
    1. +6
      25 July 2018 08: 45
      Hi Sasha ! hi
      Quote: Egorovich
      on the track

      They strictly adhere to the line of their Central Committee - the Soviet origin of many makes itself felt.
      1. +7
        25 July 2018 08: 53
        Pasha, good morning! The Soviet Union Basmachi destroyed, and the "chosen" Barmelya instead of father and mother. Yes
        1. +8
          25 July 2018 08: 58
          Quote: Egorovich
          "chosen" barmaley instead of dad and mom.

          Why "instead"? The methods are the same - there is heredity ...
        2. +1
          25 July 2018 10: 01
          Quote: Egorovich
          Pasha, good morning! The Soviet Union Basmachi destroyed, and the "chosen" Barmelya instead of father and mother.

          When the USSR fought, take off, they were not terrorists at that time, they were just the opposition to the leader of Afghanistan controlled by Moscow. So whatever you would like, but history will not let you whitewash the deeds of the USSR hi
          1. +5
            25 July 2018 13: 15
            Quote: Wendigo
            When the USSR fought with themthey were not terrorists then, they were just the opposition controlled by Moscow to the presenter Avganistan. So what how you would not want, but history will not allow you to whitewash the deeds of the USSR
            You would first have to learn a little paper, and then talk about history. So many mistakes in two lines ... You read apparently the same way, then you draw the "correct" conclusions, and even publish them. belay
            1. 0
              25 July 2018 14: 22
              Quote: novobranets
              You would first have to learn a little paper, and then talk about history.

              I am writing from a mobile phone but it doesn’t matter ... Anyway, these are not mistakes, but my disagreement with the primer. wassat
              On the topic, that is, with what to argue? Go ahead while I'm in the mood to respond to delirium.
          2. +8
            25 July 2018 13: 21
            Quote: Wendigo
            to the president of Afghanistan.

            Афganistan is not related to aвataram. The name of the country cannot be properly written, but it is for adults to play politics ... laughing Would you find a girl ... or ... don't ?! wassat
  4. +5
    25 July 2018 08: 37
    It is noted that in carrying out the combat mission the aircraft did not threaten the security of Israel. But Israel decided to be principled, that the militants in the south of Syria had already appreciated, expressing enthusiasm for the precise attack of the SIRM missiles on the Syrian military aircraft.


    Someone wants to increase tension, and so in the overheated region.
  5. +14
    25 July 2018 08: 38
    Sooner or later, when the world hegemon ceases to provide financial and military support, Israel will accept the answer of all those whom it has offended / bombed / destroyed during its entire existence, seized territories, etc.
    No wonder many nations have the proverb "Mouse cat’s tears come down to the cat," was born out of nowhere.
    1. +3
      25 July 2018 12: 06
      Most importantly, the code will no longer be able to support Israel from outside, more than half of its “citizens” will immediately grease their heels with fat, because the best Jew is, first of all, a living Jew. The rest remaining in Israel will become victims of the speculations of their wealthy "relatives" who will scream about the "new Holocaust" from across the ocean, and during breaks between screams they will vigorously figure out which gesheft can be cut down from the deaths of their "fellow tribesmen". In the best traditions of the Second World War.
  6. +8
    25 July 2018 08: 43
    Yes, what principle? lawlessness and rapture from impunity. it's just a stupid murder.
    1. +1
      25 July 2018 09: 52
      Not killing, but destroying the enemy.
      1. +4
        25 July 2018 12: 50
        what enemy? just great: they themselves appointed an enemy who loses all resources in a civil war. it’s killing_ to bring down a plane that hit ter. it is a cynical killing_ to bring down a car that did not pose a threat to Israel at all.
        1. 0
          26 July 2018 06: 58
          And they did the right thing: a plane of an enemy country that violated the border was shot down by a combat aircraft. Our border guards open fires both on cars and on ships and are not a little proud of it. Recently, the Syrians shot down Israel’s peaceful F 16. At VO there was a lot of joy. Spanking a state border violator is not the highest joy of a border guard!
  7. +1
    25 July 2018 08: 55
    Quick decisions never lead to a good result. And the question of the Golan Heights is not such an easy task,
    It seems. Question: Why is the UN not forcing Israel to return these heights of Syria? I think the solution to this problem
    in favor of Syria itself is more expensive. This organization takes into account the influence of Israel on the world community. Such tactics
    adhered to the leadership of the USSR. If you put on the shelves the actions of Israel and the actions of the USSR, we will see
    extremely cautious policy of the USSR in relation to Israel.
  8. +9
    25 July 2018 08: 59
    It is noted that when performing a combat mission, the aircraft did not threaten Israeli security. But Israel decided to show integrity

    A combat aircraft of a country in a state of war crossed the "front line" and did not threaten our security? Tin.

    Israel always shows integrity when it comes to our security. Learn.
    1. SOF
      +13
      25 July 2018 09: 17
      Quote: professor
      Learn.

      .... what, in fact, to learn? To this ...:
      But in Israel they decided to show integrity, which is already rated by fighters in the south of Syria, delighted regarding the exact strike by air defense missiles on a Syrian military aircraft.

      ..... holy, holy .... if Black had rewards, then the calculation of your air defense could well have been awarded something ....
      1. +3
        25 July 2018 10: 30
        Quote: SOF
        ... what, in fact, to learn?

        Learn to express concern.

        By the way, Maariv writes that the Kremlin expressed concern about the interception of the aircraft, which Tsakhal provided a screenshot of the radar indicating a violation of our state border by the Syrian.

        Quote: MPN
        Wow, he showed integrity to Christ, he took it and crucified him ...

        Thickly troll. In a past life, I was not a Roman. wassat

        Quote: Hexagon
        That's interesting that you tell me when will they show the same "principle" to you?

        Мы let's say about tomatoes and give a loan for the purchase of not having analogues in the world of C-400 with the subsequent transfer of technology.
        1. SOF
          +1
          25 July 2018 11: 59
          Quote: professor
          Learn to express concern

          ... so that, like you, not to fight on the side of the cannibals? So that, as your "principled" calculations, in absentia, are not awarded the honorary titles of "first-class bashbuzk" or "hero of DAESH"?
          .................. this is a diagnosis ..................
          hi
          1. +2
            25 July 2018 18: 11
            Quote: SOF
            . so that, like you, not to fight on the side of the cannibals?

            Do you mean these YOURS allies?


            Quote: SOF
            So that, as your "principled" calculations, in absentia, are not awarded the honorary titles of "Bashibuzk 1-th degree" or "hero of DAESH"?

            Are you talking about Hero of Russia Kadyrov who killed his first Russian in 16 years?
            1. SOF
              +1
              25 July 2018 20: 11
              Quote: professor
              You mean these YOUR allies

              .... that you sirloin maneuver like a youngster ...
              ... courage is not enough recognize the fact that the cannibals played into the hands of? ....
              .... we stop you from understanding Hamas .... no? No, of course .... you yourself about it here, in VO, constantly, like the Jericho trumpets, we are broadcasting about this ...... or not ???
              ... so what did you shoot down the outgoing plane, whose fault is only that the air has no borders ...? .... he threatened you ..... well, yes ..... you have a war with them .... one-sided .... but, as I said, the enemy of your enemy is your friend ... ..and it doesn’t matter that he is an eater ......
              ........ do not wash off .... oh do not wash off ...
              1. +3
                25 July 2018 20: 23
                Quote: SOF
                ... that you sirloin maneuver like a youngster ...
                ... courage is not enough to recognize the fact that the cannibals played into the hands of? ....

                Is this what you are dealing with at the highest level?


                Quote: SOF
                ... so what did you shoot down the outgoing plane, whose fault is only that the air has no borders ...? .... he threatened you ..... well, yes ..... you have a war with them .... one-sided .... but, as I said, the enemy of your enemy is your friend ... ..and it doesn’t matter that he is an eater ......

                In our airspace you can fly only with our permission. Now the lesson is learned. An 20 teacher named Ohr Naaman taught the lesson. good
                1. SOF
                  +2
                  25 July 2018 22: 44
                  Quote: professor
                  This is what you are dealing with at the highest level.

                  ..you pretend to be a stupid person? Right? This is the third time I’ve been returning you to the topic of the incident in this top, and in response to the arguments, only “such myself” .... wassat
                  .... the fact that your shot down the plane that bombed the Ishilovites? There is. Is there a fact that it was the Ishilovites, and not the ephemeral rebels oppressed by the "bloody Assad"? There is. The fact that the Syrian drying did not do anything to you, and was not going to, is there, in principle? Yes.
                  .... got dirty ....? Yes...
                  .... I expect another opus in the style of "Do-it-yourself", and therefore - you can not work - predictably and not interesting ....
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    2. MPN
      +9
      25 July 2018 09: 19
      Wow, he showed integrity to Christ, he took it and crucified him ...
      1. +2
        25 July 2018 10: 05
        Are you for similar posts of 70 likes? smile Then no wonder.
        In the Middle Ages would have received even more approval.
        1. MPN
          +6
          25 July 2018 10: 26
          No this is so, a warm-up, For myself, without the administration of the site, it’s like, but it burns ... laughing tongue
          You have already spoiled a lot and there is nothing to justify yourself ... Only sobs ... really arrogant ... sad
          1. +2
            25 July 2018 11: 14
            Etr is just the beginning. But Assad completely forgot that he was in a state of war. Principle ... There is no pity for the enemy.
          2. +2
            25 July 2018 14: 17
            "but it burns .." ////
            -----
            Do not comb this place, will not burn wink
    3. +7
      25 July 2018 09: 25
      It is interesting that you tell me when they will show you the same “principle”? You will groan, "and then what ?!" You basically are not trying to lower the degree of relations with Syria, you basically need Syria to be under your boot.
      Of course, it’s not entirely good to wish for such a thing, but I would like to see what Israel would do against the Arab coalition, especially if the latter also began to bend you “in principle” without listening to anyone’s screams.
      1. +2
        25 July 2018 10: 06
        Quote: Hexagon
        It is interesting that you tell me when they will show you the same “principle”? You will groan, "and then what ?!"

        They are unlikely to want to adopt the Russian experience with tomatoes. hi
        1. +6
          25 July 2018 10: 29
          Well, the Arabs are not good Russia, they will remember all the insults, they will remember up to the seventh generation. It would be funny to look at the Israelites who were forced to demolish the synagogues themselves, put mosques in their place and live according to the most strict Sharia laws. With a ban on leaving. And all those who disagree with this state of things ...
    4. +5
      25 July 2018 11: 24
      Learning what to kill women and children in Gaza to seize foreign land to support sponsor and treat terrorists ?!
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    6. +1
      25 July 2018 22: 40
      Yes, fight, show integrity - who is stopping you. Only the next time my people will again pull you out of someone’s gas chambers, do not forget to remind them of this “principle” of yours (well, “God's chosen people” - of course) ...
  9. +1
    25 July 2018 09: 00
    and as you like, the region’s one is still, the Saudis’ enemies are making oil deals with us, Iranian friends are driving us from their airfields, the Turks are knocking down our plane, everyone faces the question of survival, and Israel in the first place.
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  11. +1
    25 July 2018 09: 10
    Principled Israel. CAA breaks through to the place of the death of the colonel in Quneitra
    Title ... I read the article twice. Where is the word that the army is making its way to the place of the pilot’s death?
  12. +4
    25 July 2018 09: 13
    Another confirmation that the Syrian army is at war with the Israeli army portraying terrorists of various stripes ... for the Israelis on the VO website, there is no need to write that there is no evidence about this, the ammunition and equipment captured by the Syrian army and photos and videos were printed and posted more than once. , do not be too lazy to rummage through the vast expanses of the Internet.
  13. +4
    25 July 2018 09: 16
    Quote: vit357
    I believe that the time will come and hell of fire will come from all directions and they won’t have enough of "patriots", I really hope that the Arabs will finally agree and there will be an end to it. Terrorists need to be destroyed.

    We are waiting for you in the first rows of the offensive :)
    1. +11
      25 July 2018 09: 30
      We are waiting for you in the first rows of the offensive
      Soon in Ukraine (judging by the flag), Natsik will take it seriously for you while you wait in the forefront of the advancing Russians. Where will the singers go to run?
    2. +3
      25 July 2018 10: 29
      Quote: izja
      We are waiting for you in the first rows of the offensive :)

      Wait. We will act on the advice of James Bond: "do not send a person to where you can send a rocket" laughing
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  14. +8
    25 July 2018 09: 24
    The Syrians will deal with the terrorists on their land, will strengthen the army. And then - sooner or later - Israel will pay for all its war crimes on Syrian soil.

    I am not anti-Semite, and I treat Jews as a nation well, but I can’t justify Israel’s criminal policy.
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      1. +3
        25 July 2018 11: 13
        Vtoroj, not too lazy deliberately went into your profile and read the comments. Solid dirt on Russia and accusations of all serious. Here is the occupation of Crimea, and the downed Boeing, and the BK, and arrogant threats. It's time for you to take a cold shower and stop provocations in order to provoke sharp answers to your stuffing.
        1. 0
          25 July 2018 12: 00
          Quote: rotmistr60
          not too lazy
          Well, dashing trouble began.
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Solid dirt on Russia and accusations of all serious.
          One truth, unlike you laying on Russia, anyhow with Assadushka which did not happen. And the rest is yours ..., does not deserve attention.
          But do not list a pair of proven white helmets say that Russia will pay for all its war crimes on Syrian soil
          But there is no answer. Did he call you for help? Can’t he yourself? Wrong rank?
      2. +3
        25 July 2018 11: 58
        Vtoroj, you would learn the Russian language before writing comments. You quote, that I deny and understand this as a statement. It’s not a question of “I believe, I don’t believe” - even though you believe in the earth on three pillars, I don’t care.
        I recommend using a Yandex translator if you are not enough to open a Russian language textbook.
        You are very similar to a classic American: suspiciousness about your own exceptionalism, absolute lack of understanding and incomprehension of the topics you fit in, and most importantly: you are reading not what is written, but what you want to see in what is written. Here, I'm afraid the textbook and translator may no longer help ...
        1. 0
          25 July 2018 12: 09
          Quote: Faceless
          Recommended

          Quote: Faceless
          You are very similar
          That is, there is nothing to say in the case, you start throwing dirt. Well, I did not expect anything else from you.
          1. +4
            25 July 2018 12: 19
            You definitely have problems with the Russian language. Reread again my recommendations, then again my comments, after - do not be lazy, get into the dictionary and look at all the shades of the expression of the Russian word "dirt". Then, be assiduous and re-read your own comments again. Based on the results of these exisises, I hope that your mind will be significantly enriched, because I realize that any of my comments without powerful educational support from the outside are powerless in helping to combat illiteracy.
            I’m anxious for you ... Well, how much more written in Russian do you understand in American ... What a wonderful world you live in ... It's scary to imagine ... take a Russian language textbook - it will save you, I assure you.
            1. -1
              25 July 2018 12: 28
              A lot of bukoff. but the answer is netuti ...
              But do not list a pair of proven white helmets say that Russia will pay for all its war crimes on Syrian soil
              1. 0
                16 August 2018 13: 55
                Indeed, there are many letters. Apparently for some this is too serious an obstacle.
      3. +2
        25 July 2018 12: 45
        Quote: Vtoroj
        You yes, and the classic

        Not for you, a clinical Russophobe, to point out someone's anti-Semitism.
  15. +11
    25 July 2018 09: 26
    in Israel decided to show integrity, which has already been appreciated by militants in southern Syria who have expressed enthusiasm
    For a long time already doubts have disappeared that Israel, hiding behind its security from Iran, is supporting terrorists of all stripes in Syria. He acts meanly proud of his “integrity” and disregard for the opinions of others.
  16. +9
    25 July 2018 09: 38
    The kingdom of heaven to the fallen pilot!
  17. +6
    25 July 2018 10: 03
    What is such a “principle” of Israel? This is just unscrupulousness.
  18. +6
    25 July 2018 10: 23
    It is just necessary for Iran, Syria and others to sell Iskander-type complexes, and all their principle will immediately disappear.
    1. +1
      25 July 2018 12: 20
      What a good thought. I was waiting for who would be the first to voice it)))
  19. +2
    25 July 2018 10: 38
    in carrying out a combat mission, the plane did not threaten Israeli security.

    The situation was exactly the same with our Su-24, which the Turks shot down. He didn’t threaten anyone, but he interfered politically, therefore he was destroyed.
    As long as Jews are not put in the pose of the “drinking deer” for every step of aggression, this is how it will continue.
    They still need to be thrust into the toilet for our downed UAV.
    Oh, my liver smells, the Jews will scratch their own problems. And the reward will be right, so to speak. Yes angry
  20. 0
    25 July 2018 10: 40
    Quote: Thrall
    Israel has once again proved that it lives on Arab wisdom:
    “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

    Here ... rather: "The enemy of my ISIS is my enemy."
  21. +1
    25 July 2018 10: 41
    The plane crashed in the area of ​​the village of Saida
    About 160 km to the border with Israel, and to the Golan 100 km, where is the base of the air defense of Jews, do Jews know? .... lol

    ps. Colonel flew close! The condolences to the people of Syria!
    Detection range for ESR targets:
    0,1 m² (head of the rocket) 70 km,
    0,5 m² (rocket) - 100 km
    1,5 m² (fighter) - 130 km
    10 m² (bomber) - 180 km

    1. +6
      25 July 2018 10: 55
      Quote: XXXIII
      Close flew up

      He probably made a U-turn over the golans, leaving the Jews fired a zrk in the tail, and therefore fell in Syria, shot in the back, saw that he was leaving .... negative
  22. +1
    25 July 2018 10: 45
    Here the question is different: who makes a decision in Israel about the destruction of air targets that flew to a depth of two kilometers (!) To the controlled territory? Apparently, these are automatic systems that are programmed to destroy everything as large as a sparrow (I apologize for the unsuccessful rhyme) that flies into the airspace of the country. I may be mistaken, but it looks very much like that. Therefore, the Israelis must either turn off all their air defense systems, open the airspace, or do so in this way. I repeat, I am not an expert, but this destruction of the Syrian plane does not sound like the planned provocation of the Israeli army.
    1. +3
      25 July 2018 11: 11
      Quote: 1536
      Here the question is different: who makes a decision in Israel about the destruction of air targets that flew to a depth of two kilometers (!) To the controlled territory?

      Duty shift in rank from starley to major. The last time a drone was shot down, it was a young lady with the rank of captain.


      Quote: 1536
      Therefore, the Israelis must either turn off all their air defense systems, open the airspace, or do so in this way.

      The goal is from the moment it takes off. They are identifiable. There was no doubt that this was a combat aircraft. Contacted the Russians. Those confirmed that the plane was not theirs. They urged the pilot on the radio to change course. He ignored. Destroyed.

      Quote: 1536
      I repeat, I am not an expert, but this destruction of the Syrian plane does not sound like the planned provocation of the Israeli army.

      Why do we need provocations? The only thing we need is to restore silence on the Syrian border.
      1. +1
        25 July 2018 18: 25
        It turns out this young lady and heaped up drying. good
        https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Double-whammy-F
        emale-IDF-officer-downed-Syrian-jet-and-drone-563
        368
    2. +1
      25 July 2018 11: 22
      And who in Syria decides whether to detail in 2 centimeters from the country with which the state of war has recently been shot down by an Israeli plane
      1. +1
        25 July 2018 11: 54
        Quote: Zina389
        And who in Syria decides whether to detail in 2 centimeters from the country with which the state of war has recently been shot down by an Israeli plane

        IMHO all and sundry. Maybe the pilot himself "thought" and flew into another world.
  23. +2
    25 July 2018 11: 01
    I do not understand why these lamentations? Of course I feel sorry for the pilot, but there is a war going on, each on its own side. Could bring down and brought down, so there is power and will. Or did you think Israel would have welcomed the plane with open arms? This will not happen and the Israelis have long shown it. And they should take responsibility for their policies. There is no point every time, from such situations, inflate the sacred wave of anger, it is pointless.
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    1. +2
      25 July 2018 11: 13
      Quote: Vtoroj
      How strange, the inhabitants of a country that destroys passenger aircraft (Russia) indicates a country that is destroying military armed aircraft of a country that violates its state borders. You only have logs instead of eyebrows.

      And we shot down a couple of flying saucers with aliens. Didn’t they show you there by zombies?
      1. 0
        25 July 2018 12: 01
        Quote: Nikolai R
        Didn’t they show you there by zombies?
        This is where the earth is flat? Yours is a zombie. Your.
        1. 0
          25 July 2018 12: 52
          Quote: Vtoroj
          Quote: Nikolai R
          Didn’t they show you there by zombies?
          This is where the earth is flat? Yours is a zombie. Your.

          The earth can be both flat, and the Russian zomboyaschik came up with - I do not deny it, but still look about aliens.
    2. +7
      25 July 2018 11: 28
      Quote: Vtoroj
      residents of the country knocking down passenger planes (Russia) ...

      And why don’t we remember about the Iranian liner, shot down in 1988 over the Persian Gulf? Killed 274 passengers, including 65 children, and 16 crew members.
      1. +4
        25 July 2018 11: 41
        After a couple of days, the Soviet Union officially recognized that its air defense forces shot down an airplane that violated Soviet airspace and did not respond to warnings. It was even established the exact time - 22.26 local time. However, there are documented records of the pilots of flight KAL-007, which appeared on the air 50 minutes after the destruction of the Soviet fighter. Moreover, they did not give any signals for help. This gave birth to the version that the Soviet pilot shot down some other plane, probably the American reconnaissance aircraft RC-135, which looks very much like a Boeing 747. It is interesting that Gennady Osipovich, the pilot of the Su-15, who shot down the airliner, was sure that his target was a non-civilian board. In particular, Osipovich doubts that such a large aircraft as a Boeing 747 could be shot down with just two R-60 missiles, which he fired into it.
        The loss of interest in the fate of KAL-007 flight among the Americans coincided with the news that a South Korean passenger aircraft with flight number NL-7442 was at Andrews Washington Air Base for three days - from August 11 to August 14, 1983. Incidentally, it is precisely at this air base that the American presidential airliner is still based - "the number one plane on the United States." Interestingly, the technological maintenance of the South Korean aircraft on Andrews was carried out in the hangar of the company, which was engaged in the supply of special electronic equipment. It only remains to add that it is the board with the number HK-7442 that will make the ill-fated flight on September 1, 1983 with the disingenuous and at the same time symbolic name -KAL-007 ...
        Onboard there were 269 people - passengers and crew. However, no bodies were found by a search expedition: only minor fragments.
        It is curious that the missing bodies of the dead aroused the imagination of some American journalists: a version appeared in the Western press that the Soviet military burned the bodies in a crematorium to cover up their tracks.
        But let us turn to direct evidence. One of the Soviet divers who took part in the search recalled: “I did not miss a single descent. I have a very clear impression: the plane was stuffed with garbage, and people were not there. Why? Well, if a plane crashes, even a small one. As a rule, suitcases, handbags should remain, at least handles from suitcases ... And there was something that, I think, normal people should not carry on an airplane. Well, let's say, an amalgam roll - like from a garbage dump ... All clothes, like from a landfill - pieces were torn out of it ... We almost worked for a month! ... There were few wearing things - there were very few jackets, raincoats, and shoes. And what they found is some kind of tear! ”
        All this gave reason to say that the liner discovered a few weeks after the accident was a falsification.
        1. +3
          25 July 2018 11: 52
          I’ll add that the Korean Boeing flew several hundred kilometers into the territory of the USSR and ignored attempts to land it, and the US Iranian Boeing just took and shot down several thousand kilometers from the shores of America
    3. +2
      25 July 2018 11: 29
      Dear, we are also shooting down American spy planes so that it would be unfair to fly over our territory. And the Russian proverb sounds like this: "To see a straw in a strange eye, not to notice logs in your own." There is the Internet, they would have used it before tapping barrow keys.
    4. +1
      25 July 2018 11: 48
      my friend you know your fairy tales there on your sites tell now everything is in the public domain. With a downed Korean plane, there are more questions, so everything is silent there! But you shot down civilian planes of other countries like the Sumerians and more than once, but these are proven facts.
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      1. 0
        25 July 2018 19: 55
        There is one fact ... protest rallies over the downed Boeing ... started earlier than information appeared about him.
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  25. +2
    25 July 2018 11: 41
    Jews make every effort to ensure that the Arabs again dispersed them around the world.
  26. 0
    25 July 2018 11: 43
    Quote: Black
    Quote: dolfi1
    We will listen to what this NATO member will say (and most importantly) when it comes to Idlib. So far, this “member” has been preying on Syrian oil for years, turned Turkey into a jihadist passage yard, seized part of Syria, and a couple of days ago began importing concrete fencing in Idlib (I wonder who he is going to fence off Idlib from?). And then we'll see how Erdogan will get out of Syria and when.
    Erdogan’s statements look especially “ironic” after he shot down a Russian plane.

    Yes, in BV Israel and Turkey - two boots of a pair .... pulled on American legs ... stand each other ...

    good good good hi
  27. 0
    25 July 2018 11: 45
    It seems that the deceased colonel is 60 years old? Or is it because of the beard?
    He seems to have refused navigation devices on an old Tu-22
    It’s a pity, he died in vain. sad
    1. +2
      25 July 2018 12: 05
      at the bee! And you still pay for everything sponsors of terrorists and murderers of women and children in the Gaza Strip.
  28. +1
    25 July 2018 12: 12
    You lag behind the Jews they got from Hitler. Our planes do not touch.
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  30. +2
    25 July 2018 12: 35
    After the adoption by the Knesset of the law on the status of the state of Israel a few days ago, the country turned into a real Nazi state. One people are Jews, but not Israelis. Arabs are second-class people. One language is Hebrew (dead mov), all other languages ​​count. As you can see, this is a trend; imperfections, ukrolyandiya, mid-zealand. Everywhere, Nazism is reborn. But what about internationalism? They tried to bury him along with the cause of communism. In Russia, Nazism is also reborn; starting with the nation on A and ending on Z (the Yakuts are also Natsik). If our rulers do not come to their senses, then Nazism will triumph in the ruins of the USSR; Aryan, Turkic or Ugric.
  31. +2
    25 July 2018 12: 40
    Quote: tomket
    And I’m wondering what kind of signals the Israeli side was giving to the Syrian plane,

    Like some, don’t you know? They sent him two faxes, telex and three messages to the pager. hi
  32. +1
    25 July 2018 12: 47
    Quote: huntsman650
    You lag behind the Jews they got from Hitler. Our planes do not touch.

    And who didn’t get it? Just the Jews skillfully took advantage of this and received great preferences.
    1. +1
      25 July 2018 19: 28
      Lying. The USSR received huge indemnities. The Germans worked for another 10 years on construction sites in Soviet cities. They put under control the floor of Europe with all its resources. One trophy weapon per army, etc.
  33. +1
    25 July 2018 19: 59
    For several years, Muslim terrorist groups have been standing on the Israeli border ... during this time, they did not threaten Israel ... no attacks were made, such an incomprehensible brotherly love of Muslims and Jews.
  34. +1
    25 July 2018 20: 59
    But Israel decided to show integrity, which has already been appreciated by militants in southern Syria who have expressed enthusiasm for

    Who is fighting with whom, including Russia ..? If Netanyahu again takes refuge in Moscow, take him hostage (drink vodka, etc.) and do not release until Israel concludes a peace treaty with Syria .. How much can you endure and turn a blind eye to this impudence and bloody antics of Israel?
  35. +2
    26 July 2018 00: 10
    Quote: tomket
    1,5 -2 km for an airplane is a matter of a couple of seconds. And Israel, apparently, dispatchers are simply unrealistic balabol, since they managed to blather something on the air there.

    2 km at a speed of 800 km / h is 9 seconds. Most often, such an alert takes place even before the aircraft approached directly to the border of airspace. EMNIP in the fleet there is such a signal - "YOUR COURSE WILL LEAD TO DANGER". As it was unknown in this case, but most likely the plane was still driven from distant approaches, since the Israeli side managed to contact the Russian group and received information that the plane was not Russian. What next...
    Two questions come up.
    1. Did the Israeli side really try to notify the Syrian plane that "HIS COURSE WILL LEAD TO DANGER"?
    2. Why there was no communication channel with the Syrian Mission Control Center. So Israel had enough time to contact us, but we don’t have to transfer information to the Syrians?

    Quote: ser-pov
    All this phrase says .. Israelis have no conscience ..

    Is there a place of conscience in war? Do not forget that Syria and Israel have been at war since at least the Third, Arab-Israeli War of 1967. But actually even earlier. Since 1948 There is no peace treaty between them, although with another participant in the wars - with Egypt, such an agreement was concluded and the Sinai Peninsula was returned to Egypt. As far as I heard, Israel offered Syria peace in the abolition of the territory. That is, Syria makes peace, for this it receives the Golan Heights. Neither Papa-Assad nor son-Assad did not agree to this.
    So what is the presence or absence of conscience in Israel? Two warring parties. One aircraft (moreover, military, not civilian) invades airspace.
    What is the reason for the invasion? Pilot excitement did not allow to assess the possibility of "entry" into the territory of a neighboring state? Or was it calculated that they won’t have time to do anything? Or just a plane on a turn "skidded" into the territory of Israel? In any case, the Israeli air defense completed the task assigned to them "excellently". . The time difference between crossing the border and launching missiles was minimal, only a couple of seconds ...

    Do not forget the factor of the size of the country. This we can afford a situation where the intruder’s plane could be in our airspace and be there for half an hour. The size of Israel in the area from east to west is just over 50 km. The plane would slip through the territory in 3-4 minutes. But what does the pilot have in mind? What should he do? Should he drive the barmaley or did he have a completely different task, to strike at a target in Israel? This is the same as with a Powers plane. No one could understand what he was like? Was it a low-speed reconnaissance aircraft with equipment, or was it carrying a bomb?

    Quote: SOF
    ... the fact that yours shot down the plane that bombed the Ishilovites? There is. Is there a fact that it was the Ishilovites, and not the ephemeral rebels oppressed by the "bloody Assad"? There is. The fact that the Syrian drying did not do anything to you, and was not going to, is there, in principle? Yes ..... got dirty ....? Yes...
    .... I expect another opus in the style of "Do-it-yourself", and therefore - you can not work - predictably and not interesting ....

    You write everything correctly, but these are EMOTIONS. It's not even about the rebels and who they bombed the plane for. The question, in particular for Israel, and for other countries too, is what makes a combat aircraft of a country fighting it in its airspace. We can emotionally respond to one or another action of any country. We have some preferences. Some are ready to tear their shirt for North Korea (the truth is only at the monitors), others for Iran, considering it to be their best friend and ally, others for Syria, fourth for whom else. But I repeat. All these are emotions and preferences of writers. And the facts - Israeli air defense reacted to the threat and neutralized it. Quickly, and I must admit very effectively. The reaction is lightning fast. Before the plane flew half a kilometer into Israel, the rocket launch followed ...
    Technically, everything was done very competently. Yes, sorry for the pilot who died as a result of this. But they have a war going on and he knew that he could die ...

    Quote: Faceless
    The Syrians will deal with the terrorists on their land, will strengthen the army. And then - sooner or later - Israel will pay for all its war crimes on Syrian soil.

    There is such a famous saying, EMNIP from the Bible: Blessed is he who believes. Sooner or later, how much? After another 50 years, or after 100 or after 150?

    Syria has been at war with Israel for 70 years. At least 5 wars, not counting sluggish conflicts. In all cases, Syria was defeated. Wars, with the exception of the War of Attrition, lasted 6-7 days. The USSR, especially in the 80s, filled Syria with weapons and advisers. So what? And now, after several years of civil war, the ravaged Syria will "deal" with Israel? To begin with, let it end not just terrorists and opposition movements, but make sure that there are no movements, establish an internal peace, and not a dictatorship, which sooner or later will lead again to a civil war.
    And then “maybe”, “someday”, “in 100 years” will do what you voiced - will make Israel pay ... But alas, the tradition is fresh, but it is hard to believe. Arabs sometimes can’t agree among themselves

    Quote: Vladimir Matveev
    Jews make every effort to ensure that the Arabs again dispersed them around the world.

    So far, for the past 70 years, Arabs have been driving Jews. Name at least one military conflict between Arabs and Jews when Arabs would have won a military victory over Israel. At the same time, they always had advantages in the armed forces, personnel and equipment ...

    Quote: Strashila
    For several years, Muslim terrorist groups have been standing on the Israeli border ... during this time not a single threat was voiced against them ... not a single attack was made, such an incomprehensible fraternal love of Muslims and Jews.

    Well, maybe there were several thousand, or even tens of thousands of mines, shells and missiles on the territory of Israel. And yes, there was no attack. The infantry did not go on the attack on Israel
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      26 July 2018 04: 45
      And it was necessary 1000000 Arabs to their homeland!
  36. +1
    26 July 2018 00: 12
    Quote: VOXR
    But Israel decided to show integrity, which has already been appreciated by militants in southern Syria who have expressed enthusiasm for

    Who is fighting with whom, including Russia ..? If Netanyahu again takes refuge in Moscow, take him hostage (drink vodka, etc.) and do not release until Israel concludes a peace treaty with Syria .. How much can you endure and turn a blind eye to this impudence and bloody antics of Israel?

    Then Assad must be taken hostage. He does not agree to sign a peace treaty in exchange for territory. laughing
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      26 July 2018 04: 42
      To your territory? Their to Berlin. Need to send !!!! am
  37. 0
    26 July 2018 01: 41
    There were cases when the Arab security forces rode and they opened fire on their own initiative. Or the Iranians hijacked a Syrian plane. Anything could be on BV. A combat aircraft from an enemy country crossed the border and in seconds already over the cities. Who can allow such things? Today they wrote that Syrian rockets fell into the lake, flying over the beach with vacationers. So before the war is not far away.
  38. 0
    26 July 2018 04: 37
    Scoundrels killed a fighter against terrorism am burn you in hell am
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    26 July 2018 05: 58
    Syrian Air Force Colonel Umran Mare


    another victim of the Israeli jackals.
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    26 July 2018 10: 10
    Quote: Zina389
    There were cases when the Arab security forces rode and they opened fire on their own initiative. Or the Iranians hijacked a Syrian plane. Anything could be on BV. A combat aircraft from an enemy country crossed the border and in seconds already over the cities. Who can allow such things? Today they wrote that Syrian rockets fell into the lake, flying over the beach with vacationers. So before the war is not far away.

    Not Syrian. They wrote that it was an ISIS provocation in order to provoke Israel to attack Syria. The Israelis attacked, but only on the Igilov launcher

    Quote: Mih1974
    You dear have not yet added - Israel is an Occupant in the Golan and therefore there is NO and there can be no talk of "flew into Javrei territory."
    Oh, not in vain and not "at libel" - they beat, hung, burned, drowned and in general, for every reason they annihilated "one people" in different centuries throughout Europe and completely different Peoples, oh not in vain and obviously there was no "in the Peoples" problem .


    Let's leave the terminology of the occupier to politicians. the history of the emergence of the state of Israel know? They probably heard that in 1947 there was a UN decision to create 2 states. Israel created its own, the Palestinians do not seem to be going to. They had nothing but paramilitary groups united in the Palestinian army. Not a single management structure has been created, not a single state institution. But then the next day, after the announcement of the creation of Israel, a coalition of the League of Arab States invaded Israel. The coalition included: Syria, Egopet, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Transjordan, and, of course, Palestinian armed groups. As a result, they got snot and even lost the territories that were planned for the Palestinian state. Part "grabbed" Egypt, Jordan, of course Israel. At the same time, neither Egypt nor Jordan were considered occupiers. And during the 3rd war, Syria lost the Golan Heights, Egypt - Sinai. Israel captured them by the right of the victorious party. Sinai was then given in exchange for a peace treaty with Egypt. Syria can at least 100 times talk about the occupation of the Golan Heights - but no court will consider the fact of a plane crash over Syrian territory. Will be believed to be shot down over Israeli territory
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      26 July 2018 10: 58
      Everything you wrote is correct. But!
      You do not forget that, having occupied the territory of modern Israel, the Jews drove out the Palestinians. These Palestinians have become refugees, the issue of which has not been closed to this day. Israel answers all questions about compensations this way: "How many do not give them - all the same it will not be enough!" Well, so no one tried to give!
      It was possible to solve everything, or try to solve the world when the Jews settled, but it is money! And capitalist England, which had so many colonies, was used to receiving money, not giving it away! Therefore, the conflict has remained frozen since the 40s, when Angichans settled Jews in the Palestinian lands.
      Relate normally to the refugees and see everything would turn out differently. But the West did not need this. How much Israel lost in this confrontation would more than compensate for the compensation of refugees ...
  41. +1
    26 July 2018 10: 45
    Quote: reservist
    I’ll add that the Korean Boeing flew several hundred kilometers into the territory of the USSR and ignored attempts to land it, and the US Iranian Boeing just took and shot down several thousand kilometers from the shores of America

    1. The Iranian Boeing USA was shot down not only several thousand kilometers from the coast of America, but the plane was inside the air corridor for civil aviation flights on a sunny day and at such a distance that the captain of the American cruiser could, if he wanted, recognize the plane with its binoculars. The Bulgarian Air Force also shot down an Israeli civilian aircraft in 1954, which deeply entered the airspace of Bulgaria. He fell on our territory and fell and everyone died. This, of course, was a mistake for the pilot of the civilian aircraft and our air defense - they did not recognize that the aircraft was civilian. Nobody wanted this.
    2. Israeli air defense recognized the Syrian plane and shot down because they wanted to be shot down. There is a tactical mistake of the Syrian commanders that they planned such a risky flight. But here the strategic mistake of the Israeli leadership is much worse - the protection and salvation of the most dangerous and aggressive enemies of Israel themselves. And this mistake will be paid, as always, not by the leaders making erroneous decisions, but by their people. The West did the same when nourished and courted Hitler.
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    26 July 2018 21: 54
    Quote: dolfi1
    We will listen to what this NATO member will say (and most importantly) when it comes to Idlib. So far, this “member” has been preying on Syrian oil for years, turned Turkey into a jihadist passage yard, seized part of Syria, and a couple of days ago began importing concrete fencing in Idlib (I wonder who he is going to fence off Idlib from?). And then we'll see how Erdogan will get out of Syria and when.
    Erdogan’s statements look especially “ironic” after he shot down a Russian plane.

    In general, the governments of both countries are good, and that (Israel) and the other (Turkey) are a stronghold of terrorists of all stripes, compete for influence on them (terry terrorists) with varying success.
    The governments of both of these terrorist states are alike dull and disgusting- mired in corruption scandals, sodomy (terry relatives Nenatyahu).
    And they both create a totalitarian state on the model of the Third Reich, not shying away from anything — they destroy any opposition in the bud.
    The world would be better after the collapse of both totalitarian regimes.