Congress froze deliveries of F-35 to Turkey: "Erdogan will transfer technology to Russians"

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American edition The Washington Times published an article stating that the US Congress blocked the delivery of F-35 aircraft to Turkey. On the eve of "IN" reported that the head of the Pentagon, James Mattis, announced his support for an earlier decision on the transfer of a new generation of fighters to the Turkish Air Force. According to Mattis, any delay in the implementation of the contract can lead to negative consequences primarily for US companies, and they may lose a significant share of profits.

However, the US Congress did not heed the arguments of Mattis and decided to freeze the supply of F-35 to Ankara - at least for 2019 a year.



Congress froze deliveries of F-35 to Turkey: "Erdogan will transfer technology to Russians"


What are the arguments of the American parliamentarians with this?

Congressmen linked their decision to a number of complaints against Turkish President Erdogan. One of the claims is the arrest in Turkey of Pastor Andrew Brunson, whom Ankara accuses of involvement in the organization of Fethullah Gulen, according to the Turkish authorities, who organized the attempted coup. Branson himself is also accused of spying for the United States and having links to the Kurdistan Workers ’banned in Turkey disguised as a missionary.

But not at all the figure of Brunson is central to the congressional argument. American lawmakers are blocking the delivery of F-35 to Turkey due to the fact that the Ministry of Defense of this country, NATO decided to purchase from Russia anti-aircraft missile systems C-400.

From the material in the American edition:
F-35 is used as a geopolitical pawn between Washington and Ankara, and congressmen are seeking to put pressure on Turkey in connection with the strengthening of its military ties with Russia. Last week, the US chief diplomat warned Turkey about a “serious flaw” in the proposed deal to buy Russian-made air defense systems, saying that the sanctions imposed by Congress on the deal would be only the beginning, if Ankara insists on this.


Earlier, Turkish President Erdogan had already responded to such claims by the United States by saying that Turkey, a member of NATO, is an independent state and therefore is free to take measures to protect its interests and its sovereignty. At the same time, Erdogan reminded the United States that the Russian ZRK (С-300) are in service with another NATO country (Greece), but in Washington this fact for some reason does not cause concern.

It is worth recalling that individual congressmen in the United States fear that after sending the F-35 to Turkey, it will in some way transfer the RF technology to counter the American 5 generation aircraft by upgrading the existing air defense systems. In turn, Russia, in turn, expressed concerns that Turkey, as a NATO country, could transfer the Triumph technology to the C-400 air defense system to its American partners. Turkey responds to both countries with assurances that "all fears are unnecessary here."

The following fact should be noted: at the moment, Turkish military pilots are training in the operation of 5th generation fighters in the USA. In particular, we are talking about training flights on two F-35 aircraft, which, within the framework of the previously concluded contract with Ankara, should be the first to be delivered to one of the military aviation bases in Turkey. Now the situation looks suspended in the air, as does the training of Turkish Air Force pilots.

In the US, they still cannot really answer the question of what Turkish pilots have to do, who will complete the entire training course.

Moreover, the United States will have to impose anti-Turkish sanctions from the so-called CAATSA package, which provide for measures of pressure on countries engaged in military-technical cooperation with Russia. At the same time, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has repeatedly said that if the United States allows itself to put pressure on Turkey on the issue of future purchases of C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia, “they will regret it”. How can "regret"?

Turkish experts in the country's mass media have repeatedly (even since the very attempt of the coup d'etat in Turkey) raised the question of the hypothetical deprivation of Americans of the opportunity to use the Incirlik airbase. This has not yet come to this, but with the decision of Congress to block the supply of already contracted aircraft, Recep Tayyip Erdogan may be “offended” and take a number of appropriate anti-American measures. Erdogan perfectly remembers that at one time Russia helped him to remain in the chair of the head of the Turkish state, from where he was going to throw off certain circles that enjoy the support of the United States.

The preacher Fethullah Gülen, whom Ankara asked to extradite to Turkey, first from Obama, then from Trump, still lives on the estate in the US state of Pennsylvania. And the Turkish authorities regard this fact as an unfriendly (and even hostile) gesture by the United States of America. Blocking the supply of F-35 by congressmen is a new gesture of “bad will,” as announced in Ankara.
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  1. +6
    25 July 2018 07: 23
    Of course Erdogan will pass! Without a doubt).
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      1. +7
        25 July 2018 07: 25
        Wang, that in the end Turkey will have both S-400 and F - 35 smile
        1. +3
          25 July 2018 07: 31
          Yeah. And ours will lay the function of auto start on Fu35 laughing . It’s going to be a joke.
          1. +2
            25 July 2018 10: 17
            joke will be if they do not get caught.
            1. +3
              25 July 2018 12: 23
              worse joke will be if they get! Then the return is guaranteed: for non-compliance with the declared modes such as invisibility (radar)
        2. +3
          25 July 2018 12: 36
          and the Turks will know exactly how good both of them are, apparently also a factor restraining the United States promised that there’s a lot on the plane and that in real life it will be unclear if the Turks are silent, they’ll hardly need stealth on paper
  2. +1
    25 July 2018 07: 24
    They are not selling RaptorF22 smile Why be afraid? 35 And not close to Raptor request
    1. +7
      25 July 2018 08: 03
      Do not write nonsense. First check what you write.
  3. +1
    25 July 2018 08: 13
    The USA made a move ... The answer for Erdogan ... insulting of course ... "and they didn’t give the cow and it turned out to be somehow uncomfortable with the guys" .. But it seems that he will beg for the eroplans ...
    1. +2
      25 July 2018 10: 18
      he has a strong move - declare "grandmother back!" they invested a billion there
      1. +2
        25 July 2018 10: 39
        Oh sure smile when “ce bulo shob vietnam squeezed” .. In the sense that it got into the American pocket, then it disappeared ...
        1. +2
          25 July 2018 10: 41
          throw the Turks like suckers ....
          1. +1
            25 July 2018 13: 35
            Then they will buy weapons from Russia, they may even enter the CSTO lol Asians, it’s NATO, as it were, and not “especially”, they would have a flow of Turkish and tourists from Russia, but to trade tomatoes, and after the accession of the “toothy” Crimea, I really wanted to be friends with Russia !!! wassat
      2. MPN
        0
        25 July 2018 13: 37
        Well, yes, and a plant under F-35 built to force them to redeem at market value ...
  4. +3
    25 July 2018 08: 57
    F-35 is used as a geopolitical pawn between Washington and Ankara, and congressmen are seeking to put pressure on Turkey in connection with the strengthening of its military ties with Russia. Last week, the US chief diplomat warned Turkey about a “serious flaw” in the proposed deal to buy Russian-made air defense systems, saying that the sanctions imposed by Congress on the deal would be only the beginning, if Ankara insists on this.

    The guys from Fashington are simply trying to get Recep into their orbit of influence, fearing the weakening of the southern flank of NATO in the war against Russia. Well, this unfinished iron does not have any special technologies; di TTX, to put it mildly, is not impressive (real, not promoted).
    1. 0
      25 July 2018 13: 38
      Not TTX, but LTX ...
    2. 0
      25 July 2018 21: 27
      Well, it is mass produced, unlike the T50
  5. 0
    25 July 2018 08: 58
    Quote: Vlad5307
    F-35 is used as a geopolitical pawn between Washington and Ankara, and congressmen are seeking to put pressure on Turkey in connection with the strengthening of its military ties with Russia. Last week, the US chief diplomat warned Turkey about a “serious flaw” in the proposed deal to buy Russian-made air defense systems, saying that the sanctions imposed by Congress on the deal would be only the beginning, if Ankara insists on this.

    The guys from Fashington are simply trying to get Recep into their orbit of influence, fearing the weakening of the southern flank of NATO in the war against Russia. Well, this unfinished iron does not have any special technologies, and its performance characteristics, to put it mildly, are not impressive (real, not promoted).
  6. +1
    25 July 2018 09: 02
    Fear for Yak 141 technology? laughing
    1. 0
      25 July 2018 13: 44
      I apologize not for the topic: but who knows exactly why the Yak-141 "froze"? After all, at one time he was an innovative aircraft!
      1. 0
        25 July 2018 21: 28
        But because Ulyanovsk was not built
  7. 0
    25 July 2018 09: 14
    These planes will be in Turkey, but after the change of power, nothing lasts forever and nobody hurries, today Erdogan, tomorrow there will be another person, there will be no eternal people, unlike in the USA where nothing depends on the president (really, someone I thought that some black man from Kenya) can influence something and has codes for launching nuclear weapons, I ask you gentlemen, so in Turkey and Russia it all depends on 1 person, today Putin, tomorrow there will be a more peaceful person :) as in Turkey.
    1. +6
      25 July 2018 09: 40
      Well, who else but you in Israel should know about Putin’s peacefulness. If there would have been another, then for yours, as your prophets, whom you executed for the same reason, said cruel mercy, would have been severely punished for a long time. You have done a lot of rotten things lately. Pray for him. And pray not to your god, the Antichrist, whom you are waiting for, but to Jesus Christ, whom you also executed for convicting you.
      1. +5
        25 July 2018 11: 21
        Perhaps I will intercede for the holy fools. Christ was executed by the Romans, for not respecting Caesar. The Jews simply did not save him, but they could. Yes, and Jesus would not be glad that they pray to him, and not to God. He called to love God, not him. And we have one god. Who does not think so, the pagan that allows the existence of many gods. Read the sermons of Jesus and peace be upon you :)
        1. 0
          25 July 2018 11: 42
          "oh, these storytellers ..." (c)

          for yourself - isn’t it funny?
          1. +2
            25 July 2018 12: 19
            Well, in principle, the comrade is right and in a nutshell outlined the Gospel. The problem is only in the reckoning of God. In Orthodoxy they pray to the trinity of God: God the Father; God is the Son of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
            1. 0
              25 July 2018 13: 03
              I think the correct political decision, in the time of Vladimir it was difficult to explain to the Gentiles that someone alone takes care of them. It’s easier to combine all into one, it was more clear. With kittens, in general, every village prays to its saint, as under Caesar, nothing has changed. Yes, and in paganism I do not see anything bad, religion and nothing more.
            2. 0
              25 July 2018 13: 06
              By the way, the word God calculus next to monotheism sounds strange.
        2. 0
          25 July 2018 13: 48
          Apparently you read the Gospel very poorly. Not thoughtfully.
          1. 0
            25 July 2018 13: 55
            The guys are here. VO, and not the telecast "United in God" hi
            1. 0
              25 July 2018 16: 28
              Religious wars have already returned and they don’t smell divine, only religious.
          2. 0
            25 July 2018 16: 27
            Perhaps excerpts from The Master and Margarita come to mind more often :)
        3. 0
          25 July 2018 17: 15
          Who wrote the denunciation of Jesus, read the Bible; is everything written there? And the court was Roman! And by the way, even after the trial, they could not have executed him if the Pharisees were not afraid for their power!
          1. +1
            26 July 2018 13: 41
            Yeah! And why do you blame everyone for Stalin, weren't all the repressions from the supply of informers, ananimations and slander? Can Todga blame the entire Soviet people for all sins? And you Hammer 75 too? After all, you took an active part in the extermination of the people and the collapse of the USSR?
            1. 0
              26 July 2018 13: 52
              Did not try to be treated, you about Thomas and you about Yerema! Do not distort the facts! And by the way, every nation is worthy of the political system that it has created and is responsible for both its activities and the actions of its leaders! Applicable to today! I recommend reading both the New and the Old Testament!
              1. 0
                26 July 2018 14: 04
                The bible describes stories that we repeat over and over. We are all, not just Jews. And with enviable regularity. I think nothing can be done about it.
                1. 0
                  26 July 2018 14: 17
                  And you can’t argue! good
  8. +3
    25 July 2018 09: 47
    US Congress blocks F-35 shipments to Turkey
    Erdogan is a touchy person, so the answer will probably be extraordinary. We observe from the side.
  9. +2
    25 July 2018 10: 15
    I don’t think the Figs will be closed. It is more interesting and effective to crush the threat of closure and create unfavorable conditions for use. a logical response to this attack would be to establish closer cooperation with the Russian Federation in the military sphere as well.
    1. 0
      25 July 2018 13: 57
      Everything goes to this.
  10. +4
    25 July 2018 10: 52
    Erdogan was considered "unreliable", most likely the point is this, Israel, too, as the closest ally, must have insisted. The ability to transfer technology is not serious, more like an excuse.
    1. +1
      25 July 2018 15: 19
      Quote: Knizhnik
      The ability to transfer technology is not serious, more like an excuse.

      Even if not an excuse, but serious fears, then this does not change the matter. To slow down a pratically concluded deal is still bestiality. And force majeure ... force majeure here can only be in the event that the mattress declares war on the Turks or the sudden disappearance of the mattress itself. laughing It’s not at all clear why the Erdoganische has been hanging around with this Gulen for so long - after all, to fill up (even in a mattress) one obscurantist grandfather is not a pack of Kurds. The operation to eliminate one character and military operations in order to eliminate the whole movement are tasks that are not comparable in complexity and cost. Or does Erdogan need Gulen alive? request
      1. +2
        25 July 2018 15: 22
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Even if not an excuse, but serious fears, then this does not change the matter. To slow down a pratically concluded deal is still bestiality.

        absolutely normal state of affairs in the sale of weapons.
        Factors are changing.
        Russia won the same to Syria and Iran S-300 sold and even received the money.
        But due to changed circumstances - the deal was terminated.
        Quote: Paranoid50
        It’s not at all clear why the Erdoganische has been bathed with this Gulen for so long - after all, to fill up (even in a mattress) one obscurantist grandfather

        there is a big question. who is really obscurantist
      2. +1
        25 July 2018 15: 23
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Even if not an excuse, but serious fears, then this does not change the matter. To slow down a pratically concluded deal is still bestiality.

        absolutely normal state of affairs in the sale of weapons.
        Factors are changing.
        Russia won the same to Syria and Iran S-300 sold and even received the money.
        But due to changed circumstances - the deal was terminated.
        Quote: Paranoid50
        It’s not at all clear why the Erdoganische has been bathed with this Gulen for so long - after all, to fill up (even in a mattress) one obscurantist grandfather

        there is a big question. who is really obscurantist
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Or does Erdogan need Gulen alive?

        he needs him as a scarecrow to overthrow all failures and seize as much power in Turkey as possible
        1. +1
          25 July 2018 15: 30
          Quote: atalef
          Russia won the same to Syria and Iran S-300 sold and even received the money.

          The result is known - the deliveries have passed, although with a delay.
          Quote: atalef
          big question. who is really obscurantist

          Yes, everyone is “good” there, the difference is only in the percentage of “good”. laughing
          Quote: atalef
          he needs him as a scarecrow,

          Well, as I expected. Although perhaps Erdoganische (he is not naive, he believed laughing ) still hopes to get grandfather on a “righteous” court, with resonance ... request
          1. +1
            25 July 2018 16: 09
            Quote: Paranoid50
            The result is known - the deliveries have passed, although with a delay.

            and they will go to Turkey - with a delay - after Erdogan
            Quote: Paranoid50
            Although, perhaps, Erdoganische (he is not naive, he believed) still hopes to get his grandfather to a “righteous” court, with resonance ...

            sometimes it’s much more convenient to desire than to receive Yes
        2. +1
          25 July 2018 15: 55
          absolutely normal state of affairs in the sale of weapons.

          In trade happens
          there is a big question. who is really obscurantist

          Humor is credited Yes But as Comrade Paranoid50 noted, Erdogan needs a grandfather for a public trial. Although for me it’s time to deal with more pressing issues.
          I wonder what kind of actions Israel is waiting for from Erdogan. But once everything was more cultural ...
          1. +1
            25 July 2018 16: 08
            Quote: Knizhnik
            I wonder what actions awaits Israel from Erdogan

            None. Erdogan, having crushed Turkey under him, wants to become a guiding star of the Islamic world. and this is difficult to do without butting Israel.
            Well, let it puff - a dog barks - the wind wears.
            We survived Obama, we will survive Erdogan.
            After all, the people listen and eat - and think and examine the Old request
            Despite the poor relations between the leaders of Turkey and Israel, trade relations between the countries have developed in recent years, and there are many common economic interests between them that have only deepened in recent years. “Past experience suggests that Erdogan will not jeopardize these ties,” said Sami Peretz from The Marker. In particular, Turkish producers sell their goods in Jordan via the Haifa port, as the civil war made it impossible to transfer goods along the old Syrian route. In Haifa, Turkish products are loaded onto large trucks (with Turkish drivers) and transported to the Hashemite kingdom through the Sheikh Hussein border checkpoint east of Beit Shean.
            In 2017, trade between the countries grew to 4.3 billion dollars with a big advantage for Turkey. Last year, Turkish exports to Israel amounted to 2,9 billion, and Israeli to Turkey only 1,4 billion. Moreover, the quality of sales in favor of Turkey: we export mainly chemicals and petroleum products, and they are cars, various cars, iron, textiles.

            well
            1. 0
              25 July 2018 16: 38
              laughing
              In 2017, trade between countries grew to $ 4.3 billion

              Shifting a famous saying, enmity is enmity, and money together.
              We survived Obama, we will survive Erdogan.

              "If you sit by the river for a long time ..."? hi
          2. +1
            26 July 2018 13: 49
            I will not speak for all of Israel, but I expect the military to overthrow Erdogan, fulfilling his duty under the Ataturk constitution. And they will return Turkey to the normal path of development.
  11. 0
    25 July 2018 12: 18
    Well, we all believe that the money paid in advance will not be returned now, the Turkish authorities will find an undemocratic regime, introduce a moratorium on money back and seizure of accounts ....
  12. 0
    25 July 2018 16: 05
    Quote: rotmistr60
    US Congress blocks F-35 shipments to Turkey
    Erdogan is a touchy person, so the answer will probably be extraordinary. We observe from the side.

    I would say extraordinary))
  13. 0
    25 July 2018 18: 56
    Actually, Jesus was tried and sentenced to death by the court of the Sanhedrin. Since Judea was at that time a province of the Roman Empire, the sentence could be carried out
    only after its approval by the Roman governor. Which did Pontius Pilate. Between
    by the way, without much enthusiasm.
  14. 0
    26 July 2018 11: 06
    I guess With 400 deliveries no one freezes. Despite the downed plane, the killing of the ambassador, and the death of the military.
    And it seems they even give a loan, with the transfer of technology. Yeah
  15. 0
    26 July 2018 15: 03
    It would be something to convey!
    F-35 is an implementation in the series of the Yak-201 project.
    Also me, innovators ...
  16. 0
    27 July 2018 10: 48
    Each great power should have its own "Ukraine"
  17. 0
    27 July 2018 15: 34
    [/ quote] Congress froze F-35 shipments to Turkey [quote]

    I did it right. If they invested $ 600 million in their military-industrial complex, they would have long flown in their ...
  18. 0
    28 July 2018 14: 21
    It is time for Erdogan to seriously think about changing NATO to the CSTO. The eternal military cooperation of the Turks with the Anglo-Saxons against the Russian Empire, ultimately, gave nothing to Turkey. It’s time to draw conclusions who is friend and who is enemy.
  19. 0
    29 July 2018 02: 47
    Yeah, .....
    Pass on the "travel"
    I can not! Let this man pass!
    Am I "Passing?" You yourself will "Pass"!
    ........ ... ..... although the idea is interesting.