Trump found a governing body on Erdogan and the Russian military industrial complex?

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Among other documents adopted at the NATO summit held in Brussels, there is a declaration of the participating countries, according to which they pledge to get rid of Soviet and Russian weapons, which are in service with a number of states that are members of the alliance.





As indicated in it, NATO plans to "improve the interoperability of the armed forces, work to expediently address the issue of the existing dependence on legacy military equipment of Russian origin." So the alliance will continue to maintain its "technological advantage" by replacing outdated Soviet and Russian military equipment with modern and high-tech equipment of Western production.

The summit participants unequivocally make it clear that this declaration applies primarily to countries that were previously part of the Warsaw Pact, in the sphere of Soviet influence, or in the USSR as union republics.

Some of them still possess large stocks of weapons of the Soviet standard, which is the main one for their armies. Moreover, in the Czech Republic, Poland, Bulgaria, and possibly in other countries, programs have been adopted to modernize this technology, which should remain in service with these countries for many years to come.

Actually, the plans of the “Young Europeans” Washington, who achieved the adoption of this declaration, may well not be taken into account, especially if we are talking about creating a more than significant American sales market. weapons (instead of the Soviet).

But there are a few moments. Modernization programs of the old Soviet technology were adopted on the direct instructions of the Americans, who demanded an increase in the number of armored units in the ground forces from Eastern European allies. And today there is simply no alternative to the old Soviet “seventy-twains”, infantry fighting vehicles and artillery systems. The United States simply does not have such a number of "Abrams" to arm them with the Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Romanian and Bulgarian armies.

It is also unlikely that the Air Force will quickly re-equip. In addition, the financial capacity of these countries is not that very large. And a radical rearmament of their armies can be fatal to their budgets.

It is also difficult to assume that the United States will go to weaken the combat capability of the armed forces of these countries, which is inevitable if they abandon the legacy of the ATS. Even being sure that Russia is not going to attack at all, they will not be able to go for it at least in order not to destroy the myth created by them about the Russian threat.

In addition, in modernization programs there is a place for participation of American firms. In particular, we can talk about new avionics for Soviet helicopters and airplanes.

And most likely, despite the adopted declaration, the Soviet equipment will remain in service with the NATO countries for a long time (until its resource is completely exhausted).

So why did you need to accept this document? Especially since Washington can get anything from the Baltic republics and most of the countries of Eastern Europe without any declaration.

There is every reason to believe that this document is addressed not to the "limitrofits" of Eastern Europe, but to other countries.

Note that in the declaration, in addition to Soviet weapons, the Russian one is also mentioned, which at first glance looks illogical. After all, neither the Baltic countries, nor Poland and the Czech Republic bought large quantities of weapons from the Russian Federation for their Armed Forces.

Trump found a governing body on Erdogan and the Russian military industrial complex?Meanwhile, Turkey, a member of NATO, intends to buy Russian weapons. A Russian-Turkish contract has been signed for the purchase of the Triumph C-400 air defense system, which, as is known, causes Washington's fierce fury.

However, despite all the American threats, Erdogan remains firm in his intention to strengthen the protection of the airspace of his country at the expense of the Russian complexes, the best in the world today.

Moreover, after the States declared the possibility of sanctions, including the refusal to supply F-35 (in which Ankara participated in financing the development), the Turks hinted that they could significantly expand military-technical cooperation with Russia. And knowing the determination of Erdogan, there is no doubt that he will go for it, not at all considering either the feelings or the interests of Uncle Sam.

But now, after the adoption of this declaration, the United States had the opportunity to put pressure on Ankara on behalf of all of NATO. How impressed the Turkish leadership, time will tell.


Attempts by Donald Trump to mobilize the resources of the North Atlantic Alliance against Germany, in order to force her to abandon the project "Nord Stream 2", have failed. Much more success, he achieved, as we see, with respect to Turkey and its intentions to acquire C-400, pushing the above-mentioned declaration, which is, however, not specific, but somewhat veiled and mediated.
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  1. +3
    16 July 2018 06: 02
    Whatever Trump is talking about ... He is like a true businessman ... Talking about money ...
  2. +4
    16 July 2018 06: 12
    The countries wanted complete independence from the Russians, they got it. The countries wanted an American way of life, they got it in full. Now let them rejoice.
  3. +3
    16 July 2018 06: 38
    Feed enemies, harm yourself. They did not meet in a wedge light, we will find where to attach and to whom to sell our products on more favorable terms.
  4. +5
    16 July 2018 06: 39
    It is naive. Trump does not understand at all. Erdogan is a true sultan. Master of the country. A large country, not too rich, but against the background of its neighbors - quite ... And Turkey will do what it sees fit for itself ... Disregarding the opinion of some kind of NATO wassat
    1. +1
      16 July 2018 09: 35
      If we discard politics, why is there such a supplier of basic weapons that, with the slightest misconduct (of an independent state), the rhinestone ceases to fulfill paid obligations ?! And in the case of the Turks, this is not even competition, the Turks have been denied the purchase of Patriots several times and threatened to buy a similar system. This is not competition with the Russian Federation, this is Turkey’s refusal to have long-range air defense systems. This is masochism.
      1. +2
        16 July 2018 18: 54
        Quote: Zaurbek
        This is Turkey’s refusal to have long-range air defense systems. This is masochism.

        Zaur, perhaps you have inaccurately expressed your idea ... Turkey is just not going to remain unarmed in front of the Amish threat from heaven. Since Patriots don’t sell, then you need to buy C-400, but protect your sovereignty. Remember, the night of the coup attempt, when the Air Force stormed the presidential residence ... Erdogan will never repeat such a mistake. The sky of the country should be reliably protected and the Sultan will do everything for this, no matter how much the States prevent this.
        1. 0
          17 July 2018 13: 25
          This is me about the USA, they don’t see Turkey armed with the Patriot and S-300/400. Although Turkey and their ally.
          1. 0
            18 July 2018 16: 51
            At the same time, somehow this whole thing passed by Greece, where our systems have long stood. And nobody remembers something about them, and Turkey must be noted.
  5. +2
    16 July 2018 06: 54
    Trump like a battering ram, sweeping away everything, promotes the interests of the American military-industrial complex without regard to the interests of the allies. But will Erdogan break through - a question? We will see.
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    1. +4
      16 July 2018 08: 02
      Quote: Provocateur
      I would be happy to have in the presidents such a businessman Trump, in which the country's population is booming, unlike

      You need to bring it to America.
      1. +4
        16 July 2018 15: 09
        Who needs provocateurs abroad of the Russian Federation? Abroad, they are just migrant workers rootless and used. Chirikova’s example did not convince them. However, now capitalism, and apart from selling their homeland, they do not know how. For them, expulsion outside the Russian Federation, a financial fiasco, moreover, complete and irrevocable. I won’t even stutter about the ideological.
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    1. +2
      16 July 2018 17: 00
      Quote: Provocateur
      Quote: AID.S
      Quote: Provocateur
      I would be happy to have in the presidents such a businessman Trump, in which the country's population is booming, unlike

      You need to bring it to America.

      Better you puten in The Hague

      What, do not give a visa? We must try and everything will work out.
  8. 0
    16 July 2018 08: 18
    But now, after the adoption of this declaration, the United States had the opportunity to put pressure on Ankara on behalf of all of NATO. How impressed the Turkish leadership, time will tell.
    ... Indeed, time will tell, and so an interesting knot is tied ...
  9. 0
    16 July 2018 11: 12
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    The countries wanted complete independence from the Russians, they got it. The countries wanted an American way of life, they got it in full. Now let them rejoice.

    This joy will cost them dearly, one might say - “with tears in his eyes” with tightly tightened belts.
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    1. +1
      16 July 2018 15: 15
      If you are such an optimist, name at least one country where, after the collapse of the USSR, it became better for an ordinary worker to live better? Where the hard worker from the factory can buy a house in a prestigious area, a car, what you like, go to any country to relax. I just wanted and fulfilled my dreams, right now ?! Just do not give isolated examples, this is not interesting and not indicative, the bandits are getting richer too. And the workers of any enterprise that PRODUCE products. I'm waiting.
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    1. +1
      16 July 2018 19: 19
      Quote: Provocateur
      WHIPPED BY A NIGHTFLOW UNDER SILENCE

      All according to the instructions Govolny or what?
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    1. 0
      16 July 2018 16: 40
      laughing laughing
      "prosperous Romania"
      The troll made me a day! laughing
    2. +2
      16 July 2018 19: 29
      Quote: Provocateur
      HUNGARY- CZECH REPUBLIC- SLOVAKIA- CROATIA

      Provocateur! Do not breach !!! I was in all these countries and saw how ordinary people live there ... It is difficult and in the sweat of their faces they get their daily bread!
      A troll needs to be smarter ... On this site experienced people have gathered. You can’t buy them for 20!
  13. +1
    16 July 2018 16: 17
    Many countries of Eastern Europe do not have money to purchase a large number of military equipment from NATO countries. You can long and tediously urge these countries of Eastern Europe to get rid of the equipment that remained from the USSR, but so far no one has clearly suggested where to get the funds for this.
    1. 0
      16 July 2018 16: 42
      "in kind" will give, because not for the first time))
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    1. +1
      16 July 2018 17: 46
      "Brush your teeth, wash your feet, etc." - the key not only to physical health, but also spiritual))
      Smerdit'sss ...
      1. +3
        16 July 2018 20: 07
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        Smerdit'sss ..

        Such people were not allowed into a decent society before ...
        Damn, and now the admins have canceled the cons ... That's bad luck !!!
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    16 July 2018 16: 59
    Quote: NF68
    Many countries of Eastern Europe do not have money to purchase a large number of military equipment from NATO countries. You can long and tediously urge these countries of Eastern Europe to get rid of the equipment that remained from the USSR, but so far no one has clearly suggested where to get the funds for this.

    As where? Following the example of the sun-like -countries of Eastern Europe- rob their people and give everything to friends, army and police
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      16 July 2018 20: 26
      First of all
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  22. 0
    17 July 2018 09: 50
    Dear administrators, you already put an eternal ban on this provocateur. How many of his comments have been deleted in the last 3 days: 10? twenty? 20? .. What is sensible in these comments besides the stupid, unfounded, anti-Russian position, as well as the ignorance, farsightness and illiteracy of the subject can be found? There are very competent caricatures published - I completely agree with them. But, probably, what the subject breeds in the comments is not quite what other participants would like to read and see the administrators. so it's time to show civic consciousness.
    PS I’m already looking forward with the excitement of an energy vampire that a fellow provocateur will answer me - you won’t be able to resist it))))