VKS and Russian naval aviation will try to "block oxygen" over the Baltic Sea

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Multifunctional radar with passive phased array AN / MPQ-53 - the main component of the airplanes of the family "Patriot PAC-2 / 3"


The current leadership of the Baltic states can be considered a very malleable material for military-political "modeling". Daily incited to anti-Russian sentiment and rhetoric "aggressive actions" sucked from the finger aviation The aerospace forces and the Russian Navy, the Baltic Trinity law enforcement agencies, provide the Pentagon with an untouched field of opportunities for accelerated militarization of the North European approaches to our borders in the Kaliningrad and Leningrad Regions. The foundation of this militarization began to be actively laid since the operational transfer of the 52nd tactical fighter wing of the US Air Force from the German airfield Spangdahl to the Polish air base Redzikovo. Armed with this wing, 25 F-16C / D Block 50 multipurpose fighters were able to reach AGM-158B JASSM-ER tactical missiles (range of about 1200 km) to such strategically important cities in the depths of the European part of Russia, such as Kursk, Oryol, Bryansk, Pskov, Tula and Moscow.



Of course, most of these missiles, if necessary, will be intercepted using the C-300PM1, C-400 and Pantryr-C1 complexes, as well as MiG-31BM interceptors deployed in the Western Military District, but this threat cannot be ignored either, since JASSM -ER can now be used not only from the Falcons of the 52 airframe, but also from the suspensions of the Polish F-16C, which means that more than 100 high-precision missiles can be expected from the Polish airway alone. The Polish air force and the 52 tactical fighter wing can be considered an important strike component in the concept of a strategic aerospace offensive against Russia, along with the B-1B “Lancer” strategic rocket carriers and Ohio-class attack submarines. Also in the militarization of the Baltic states, the ground component of the NATO Allied Forces is actively involved. Its activities are focused mainly on an attempt to create two lines of defense (1-i - in the Baltic states, 2-i-in Poland), as well as to retain control over the Suwalki corridor, the 70-kilometer section of the Polish-Lithuanian border, through which two major transport branches: Suwalki - Kaunas and Augustow - Seiriy.

The possibility of quickly taking control of this “corridor” by the forces of the 11 th Army Corps Army of Russia, as well as the 76 th Guards Airborne Assault Division and the Belarusian army, under the cover of X-NNX-X divisions and 300-th anti-aircraft missile regiments, for more than two decades, cause a serious headache for strategists in the command of NATO allied forces, because Lithuania and Latvia alone, in case of an escalation of a major conflict in Northern Europe, will deprive the coalition of the existing 1-kilometer handicap on Pskov operas -insulating direction. It is in connection with this that we are witnessing today the staying in Poland on a rotational basis of the US Army 400 Armored Brigade, armed with the 183 MBT M1545A500 / SEP Abrams, the Stryker armored personnel carriers and the M1A90 / 1 infantry fighting vehicles MXNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVXXXXXXXXX-XXXXXXXXXXXXXX7 of X of the United States of America.

With regard to Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, this is the transfer of infantry and mechanized units of the Army of Great Britain, Germany and Canada, which are also in the countries on a rotational basis in the amount of several thousand people who regularly take part in the Saber Strike military exercises. But if we have been familiar with this threat for several years, and a strategy has long been developed to counter the enemy in the area of ​​Suwalki and Avgustov using tank and motorized rifle brigades armed with MBT T-72B3, T-90S and modern infantry fighting vehicles, as well as artillery subunits of MLRS with 9K515 Tornado-S and Smerch complexes, capable of attacking the enemy with NURS 9M532 / 533 with self-aiming combat elements, as well as promising missiles 9M542 with GLONASS-correction, then another invention of the Minister of Defense of Lithuania Raimundas Karoblis, announced a few days earlier, can be interpreted as an attempt to "block" the naval aviation of the Baltic fleet and VKS within a small section of airspace over the Gulf of Finland.

It is about creating a “unified air defense system” covering the airspace over the Baltic States, Finland and Sweden, which, according to Karoblis, should be an effective complement to the current NATO Air Force police mission patrolling the eastern air borders of NATO on the Baltic It is powered by the Typhoon fighter units of the German / British Air Force, the Royal Netherlands Air Force's F-16C and the Mirage-2000-5 Fighters of the French Air Force deployed at the Lithuanian Siauliai airbase and the Estonian Avb Emari. These fighters, present on the above airfields in the number of 4 units (1 link), pose virtually no threat to the Su-30CM 72 of the MA of the Baltic Fleet MA, as well as the Su-35С multifunctional fighter aircraft of the Russian Airspace Forces deployed at Avb Besovets.


Multi-role fighters "Mirage-2000-5" French Air Force participating in the mission of the "air police" over the Baltic. In addition to the outboard fuel tanks, you can see the MICA-EM mid-range air combat rocket and the IRIS-T melee on the suspension nodes.


For example, the Mirages are equipped with outdated RDY radar antennas capable of detecting Su-30CM at a distance of about 120 km, as well as MICA-EM air combat missiles with an effective range at medium altitudes - 50-60 km and large - 75-90 km, while our “Dryers” have longer-range URVB RVV-SD with a range of up to 120 km. We don’t take Meteoras, because at the moment they have gained initial combat readiness only as part of the ammunition sets of the Swedish JAS-39C / D fighters equipped with the MS-20 standard hardware and software kit. But what does Carblis plan envisage?

The first is the creation of an air defense positional area based on the Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems in the Vilnius area. For the Pentagon, such a naive openness of the Lithuanian side (without thinking about the consequences of the leadership of the latter) is truly a “chocolate” period. After all, for example, the permission of Vilnius to transfer several Patriot PAC-2 batteries to the southern part of the country will technically allow Americans to “close” the high-altitude airspace above the eastern half of the Kaliningrad region and the north-western part of Belarus. As a result, in the event of a major conflict in the Baltic theater of operations and in Eastern Europe, the tasks of the Kaliningrad regiments C-300PM1 and C-400 will include not only intercepting tactical aviation of the airborne forces of NATO and cruise missiles JASSM-ER, but also destroying the MIM- anti-aircraft missiles 104C, launched by our tactical aviation, which provides air support to motorized rifle subunits, which retain control over the Suwalki Corridor; there is no other way.

Meanwhile, short-sighted Carblis did not take into account a small tactical moment: in case of escalation of a large-scale conflict, the divisions Patriot PAC-2 deployed near Vilnius will be within the radius of destruction of the Tornado-S and Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems, and also complex "Iskander-M". And if a certain percentage of highly accurate corrected / guided missiles of these systems can intercept the Patriot PAC-3 anti-missile complex, the operational-tactical ballistic missiles 9М723-1 "Iskander-M" will certainly not be easy targets for MIM-104F interceptors. Conclusion: “Patriots” near Vilnius will fall in the first hours after the beginning of the escalation. Nevertheless, the configuration of the “unified air defense system” proposed by Carblis provides for the deployment of the Patriot PAC-2 / 3 air defense missile divisions also in the vicinity of Tallinn and Helsinki, as well as in Latvia and Sweden (in the latter case we can talk about the island Gotland).

In the case of the Tallinn-Helsinki air defense knot, a rather unpleasant situation may arise for the Baltic Fleet naval aviation, which consists in creating an air interdiction zone and restricting access and maneuver A2 / AD at the exit from the Gulf of Finland. The distance between the southern coast of Finland and the northern coast of Estonia is only 60 km, and therefore the deployment of even the usual Patriot PAC-2 air defense systems using these MIM-104C SAM systems with semi-active radar GOS will force the IL-38 anti-aircraft radar systems into these two areas. multi-role fighters descend to a height of 35 - 40 m, where you can "hide" from the radiation of radar AN / MPQ-53 behind radio horizon of the water surface.

If we are talking about the “Patriot PAC-3” complexes, which have MIM-104F interceptor missiles with active radar homing heads (they are capable of destroying not only ballistic targets, but also aerodynamic ones at a distance of about 70 — 80 km), then flying to ultra-small ones altitudes (“behind the screen” of the radio horizon) does not ensure the safe operation of our naval aviation over the Gulf of Finland, because MIM-104F can be induced both by targeting airplanes from DRLO E-3D British air forces and by targeting tactical fighters th ODBC NATO, equipped with terminals «Link-16» system. On the face of an attempt to block the naval aviation of the Russian Navy and the aerospace forces in neutral airspace over the Gulf of Finland, while for the formation of the long-range anti-submarine defense lines in the southern part of the Baltic Sea, the Il-38 and Il-38Н aircraft must be able to patrol up to eastern borders of the Danish island of Bornholm.

In the situation with the Patriots deployed in the suburbs of Tallinn and Helsinki of two modifications, the Smerch and Tornado-S multiple launch rocket systems will not bring the desired result, since the distance from these positions to the likely deployment sites of the Russian MLRS in the Leningrad Region (Kingisepp and Torfyanovka) is 165 and 185 km, respectively. Operational-tactical Iskander-M missile systems again come to the rescue, ballistic missiles of which are fully capable of massively working on these targets. Consequently, in the "clearing" of the anti-aircraft barrier over the Gulf of Finland our difficulties will not arise.

At the same time, it is necessary to take into account the possible deployment of the batteries of the Patriot PAC-2 / 3 air defense system through the town of Vestervik and the island of Gotland (Sweden), as well as the west coast of Latvia. Here a completely different tactical alignment emerges. For example, if the 152 Guards Missile Brigade (Kaliningrad Region), in the version with ballistic missiles 9М723-1, can reach the positions of “Patriots” on the western coast of Latvia “Iskander-M” in the version with ballistic missiles 240М270-400, because of the distance 350 - 9 km , then striking the forces of the same brigade against the positions of the American complexes in Vestervik and the northern part of Gotland will not work, since the range from the Kaliningrad region. to these boundaries is 723 and 1 km, respectively, which significantly exceeds the range of operational-tactical ballistic missiles such as 300МXNUMX-XNUMX, which is XNUMX km.

The only variant of this operational tactical missile system, whose range covers both Vestervik and the northern coast of Gotland, is the Iskander-K, whose ammunition assembly is represented by the inconspicuous tactical long-range cruise missile 9М728 (Р-500). In theory, having a range of 500 — 700 km (according to data from various sources) and a small effective reflecting surface from 0,05 to 0,07 square. m, P-500 missiles are able to easily reach the locations of US anti-aircraft missile divisions in the above coastal and insular regions of Sweden; but in practice, to destroy them with the help of these cruise missiles will not be so easy. Why?

First, the P-500 (9М728) are subsonic cruise missiles whose flight speed ranges from 830 to 940 km / h, which makes it much easier for the Patriot PAC-2 / 3 to calculate the first interception using MIM-104C anti-aircraft missiles and MIM-104F, given that objects with an effective scattering surface of about 0,05 square. m detected by the standard version of the multifunctional radar AN / MPQ-53 at a distance of about 55 km. Secondly, in existing photographs illustrating the launch of 9М728 missiles, one can draw attention to the fact that the cruise turbojet bypass engine TRDD-50AT (“Product 36МТ”) is located directly at the nozzle module in the tail section of the rocket (this can be seen from the air intake maximum offset to the tail block). It says only one thing: at the exit of the hot jet there is not even a minimal cooling circuit, which would at least slightly reduce the infrared signature of the rocket; which means that on the approach to the Patriot batteries, part of the P-500 missiles can be intercepted by modern Swedish-designed anti-aircraft missile systems RBS-70NG, RBS-90, Stinger-RMP staff and any other modern air defense missile systems, missiles which have a semi-automatic laser guidance system interfaced with a TV / IR sight or are equipped with an infrared homing head. Thirdly, the low subsonic flight speed does not allow the P-500 rocket to make vigorous anti-aircraft maneuvers with 12 overload and more units, and therefore it is ten times simpler to intercept it than the hypersonic ballistic version 9М723-1.


Launch of a tactical long-range cruise missile 9М728 (Р-500)


But the main advantage of the island of Gotland in terms of creating an “anti-aircraft umbrella” over the central part of the Baltic Sea is the presence of a large number of prevailing heights within 30 — 50 m. If the radars of illumination and guidance AN / MPQ-53 and AN / MPQ- The 65 of the Patriot PAC-2 and the Patriot PAC-3 complexes, the range of the radio horizon for targets flying at an altitude of 50 m will be from 45 to 50 km. This will cover about 35% of the distance from Gotland to Estonia, which means that in order to “close” the low-altitude section over the Baltic Sea, all that remains is to locate the PAC-3 battery in the area of ​​the Latvian city of Pavilosta. As a result, the only proven means that can destroy these batteries and “open” neutral airspace over the Baltic Sea for our naval aviation are the strategic cruise missiles X-101 (with massive use from the missile weapons of the Tu-95MS and Tu-160 rocket carriers) as well as multipurpose X-32 anti-ship / anti-radar missiles, which have speed in 4,6М on the flight path, and also dive to the target almost at a vertical angle close to 90 °.

Nevertheless, in this case it is impossible to count on 100% destruction of the Patriot PAC-3 battery, since we are talking about all the same MIM-104F antimissiles with active radar homing of the millimeter-wave range, which can work on the sheer-dive X- 32, without relying on AN / APG-65 radar, which has a limitation on the angle of elevation of the beam in 83 degrees. Destroying one such positional air defense area outside the “ballistic” version of the Iskander will require a significant amount (several dozen, or hundreds) of X-101 and X-32. I would like to note that the plan for creating a “unified Baltic defense system” voiced by the head of the Latvian defense department is not a fantasy of his inflamed brain, but most likely is as close as possible to the concept of containment of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Navy in the region that is thoroughly worked out by the Pentagon and the Swedish Defense Ministry. A convincing example of this was the largest Aurora-2017 military exercise in the past two decades, which took place from 11 to 29 in September of 2017.

The maneuvers involving 21 thousand troops (19500 people of Sweden and 1500 people of NATO military bases) also affected the very strategic island of Gotland, where the US Army deployed a Patriot PAC-2 / 3 anti-aircraft missile battery. one or more standard M901 launchers on the 4 transport-launch launchers with MIM-104C anti-aircraft missiles, as well as several M903 launchers for new ERINT interceptors (MIM-104F). And this means that the North Atlantic Alliance is already quite seriously not only considering, but also considering the prospect of forming a layered air / missile barrier on the way of the Baltic Fleet aviation of the Russian Navy.

Information sources:
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=21116
https://vpk.name/images/i197697.html
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-816.html
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/erint/erint.shtml
http://pvo.guns.ru/other/usa/patriot/index01.htm
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/s400/s400.shtml
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  1. +9
    12 July 2018 07: 20
    Dear comrades, forget about the Suvalki corridor.
    There is no direct road there, and that which is much longer and with a large hook. Moreover, it does not give any political advantages.
    Any normal person, looking at the map, will understand that the strike will be delivered in the direction Minsk-Vilnius, and then Vilnius-Klaipeda (capture of another port) and Vilnius-Kaunas-Kaliningrad along the railway and highway. (yes, in the end, use Yandex / Google maps and build the route Minsk-Kaliningrad and see how the train goes to Kaliningrad)

    At the same time, we get not only the roads themselves, but also capture the enemy’s capital. Well, if there are patriots there, then so will they.

    And then Kaunas-Šiauliai-Riga can strike. And then goodbye to NATO aviation.
    1. +1
      12 July 2018 11: 29
      Klaipeda is not needed. If it starts, Klaipeda residents will take their own city! Kaunas also remains on its side, we drive through Prenai. smile
      1. +3
        12 July 2018 12: 21
        Only in Kaunas there is w / l, but Prenae is not.
        And then Klaipeda people will need help so that NATO does not put them on the asphalt.
        1. +2
          12 July 2018 19: 41
          We will help! smile
          And in Kaunas, the railway tunnel is a bottleneck, they will blow up and there is no railway.
          1. +1
            13 July 2018 04: 07
            I was surprised by the author’s thesis that Iskander has a range of 300 km. These are the characteristics of the export option! The one that is in service in the Russian Federation has a range of 480 km, and therefore all targets in the Gulf of Finland and the Baltic will be hit from Kaliningrad and the environs of St. Petersburg. With probability - absolute. Onyx can also be used from coastal batteries and missile defense systems - according to the Patriot air defense system, because a speed of 2,5 - 3,0 M and a low-profile approach to the target is exactly what is needed against active air defense systems.
            Nobody will climb into the Suvalki jungle, if only because our troops are not in Belarus, and the brothers themselves will not turn up. It is more convenient, faster and more complex to resolve this issue by throwing through the Baltic with the occupation of it and the establishment of friendly regimes there. The deblockade of the Kaliningrad exclave will take 2 to 3 days, if not less ... But this is a war with the entire NATO bloc and if they are resolved, then when the first tanks reach the Kaliningrad region, radioactive ashes in place of Washington and New York already cooled ...
            1. 0
              13 July 2018 15: 54
              Did I miss something? here already the whole war is going on, they are talking about occupation ...
              Maybe it’s time for Maxim to roll out of the basement?
  2. +17
    12 July 2018 07: 46
    Your calculations would be in the ears of God. We need to take an example from Israel, do not like something in Syria, the Iranians came close or the Arabs stirred, missiles immediately send there. So we need to warn no Western troops closer to 500 km from our border, neither in Poland, nor at the tribaltes. They set if, excuse me, a dozen or two Iskanders arrive, depending on the size of the object with the inspection and mix everything with the ground. Then they will think what and how to say and do. And immediately respect, believe me. soldier
    1. +9
      12 July 2018 09: 04
      Absolutely correct remark, Yuri! A neutral corridor or a scorched strip between us and the enraged West is what you want. Or a "bad" world, or a fiery tornado, choose for yourself.
      We would be poor, and the inferior world is quite approached, but to forget you, neighbor, forever.
      1. +3
        12 July 2018 10: 05
        Quote: NordUral
        We would, wretchedly, and the inferior world is quite suitable

        The “poor world” is a delayed defeat and prolonged shame. The question is this: the general battle now or "two steps forward - one step back." There is no other choice.
    2. ZVO
      +2
      12 July 2018 11: 22
      Quote: Ros 56
      Your calculations would be in the ears of God. We need to take an example from Israel, do not like something in Syria, the Iranians came close or the Arabs stirred, missiles immediately send there. So we need to warn no Western troops closer to 500 km from our border, neither in Poland, nor at the tribaltes. They set if, excuse me, a dozen or two Iskanders arrive, depending on the size of the object with the inspection and mix everything with the ground. Then they will think what and how to say and do. And immediately respect, believe me. soldier


      And if they put such a condition for us?
      What would we not be for 500 km from the border, otherwise MLRS and JASSM-ER will arrive?

      Or do you, as a character from a joke, answer: “What are we for?” ...
      1. +5
        12 July 2018 14: 28
        Then look at the globe of Ukraine and understand a simple thing - it will be the United States that will be rude and demand us, and all the rest are “sixes”, which means that you can spit on their words and opinions. This means that we are delivering a preemptive strike against European mongrels (not nuclear at first), triboaltics, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Norway, and we are really moving all these radars and launchers to the ground. Next are the mutual Matyuki, if NATO does not bend - we stick nuclear mushrooms in Poland, Norway, and you can in Romania. I give my head to cut off that NATO in the person of the United States-will be rejected.
        Why - because all these "horrors of war" are far from them, but the main idea "at least one blow to our Territory - we immediately send ALL of our nuclear missiles to you" should be conveyed to the Americans. good am . Yes, the Americans will go out and be rude, sanctions and all that, but it’s not on our territory that they will risk daring to strike !!
        1. ZVO
          0
          12 July 2018 16: 15
          Quote: Mih1974
          Then look at the globe of Ukraine and understand a simple thing - it will be the United States that will be rude and demand us, and all the rest are “sixes”, which means that you can spit on their words and opinions. This means that we are delivering a preemptive strike against European mongrels (not nuclear at first), triboaltics, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Norway, and we are really moving all these radars and launchers to the ground. Next are the mutual Matyuki, if NATO does not bend - we stick nuclear mushrooms in Poland, Norway, and you can in Romania. I give my head to cut off that NATO in the person of the United States-will be rejected.
          Why - because all these "horrors of war" are far from them, but the main idea "at least one blow to our Territory - we immediately send ALL of our nuclear missiles to you" should be conveyed to the Americans. good am . Yes, the Americans will go out and be rude, sanctions and all that, but it’s not on our territory that they will risk daring to strike !!


          Wow ...
          Are you definitely over 14 years old?
          You are ready to destroy the whole world like that ... Well, not otherwise in C&C you outplayed ... Well, there you can restart the toy. and here?

          If you are older than 14 years old, but I just didn’t understand your development.
          Do you have any children?
          Are you ready to destroy them because of your opinion of 500km?
          Suddenly there will not be poked and answer ...
          It’s up to you to prove to someone like you that they’re not “mongrel” ...
          You may have grandchildren - I’m ready to halve and bury them. for your 500km idea?

          It’s just that they are usually so greyhounds to a stranger — in real life, cowardly like that ... Moreover, the farther the objects of their demands and claims are, the stronger their desire is to kick in - and accordingly, the author of the writings is more cowardly in real life.
        2. +1
          13 July 2018 14: 26
          Do you know such a concept of "wind rose"? Look at the map where the loop from the core-loaves will fly.
    3. +2
      13 July 2018 15: 58
      Israel sends rockets ONLY because it’s sure that, as long as nothing in return comes from the Grad shells, it will fly.
      Well, the elder brother hopes for intercession.
      As soon as there is the slightest opportunity to get a hundred Skuds in Tel Aviv or at the airbases at least, Israel will immediately become much more circumspect. It will be crap, but VERY carefully. And with a loud cry - the aggressors are raping ...
  3. +7
    12 July 2018 09: 55
    Quote: Ros 56
    Your calculations would be in the ears of God. We need to take an example from Israel, do not like something in Syria, the Iranians came close or the Arabs stirred, missiles immediately send there. So we need to warn no Western troops closer to 500 km from our border, neither in Poland, nor at the tribaltes. They set if, excuse me, a dozen or two Iskanders arrive, depending on the size of the object with the inspection and mix everything with the ground. Then they will think what and how to say and do. And immediately respect, believe me. soldier

    Do not confuse warm with soft. It’s one thing the neighbors of Israel, who can not counter practically anything to him in the war. The second thing is when it comes to countries that are members of NATO. Even if we assume that NATO, according to Article 5, does not AUTOMATICALLY stand up for its “colleagues,” it will not remain indifferent. And if we do not use nuclear weapons, which would entail the use of these weapons against us, then we won’t win the war with NATO with conventional weapons.
    We can threaten the Iskanders only to a country outside NATO, the same Georgia, or Moldova. But not all the others. On our demand for 500 km, they simply send us on foot erotic travels, saying that on their territory they can do whatever they want. So what? I don’t think that, firstly, there will be people in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs who will voice this idiotic demand for a 1 km sankordon, and secondly there will hardly be people in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs who will press a button in response to this failure ... So no need to dream. NATO (albeit in the face of this Baltic trifle - it is still NATO. And after such statements they are unlikely to be respected, they will rather turn a finger around the temple
    1. +5
      12 July 2018 10: 49
      Quote: Old26
      Do not confuse warm with soft. Neighbors of one thing

      Comparison is extremely inappropriate. It’s worth paying attention to Putin’s words when he answered questions during a direct line, namely, he was asked about the possibility of tightening the sanction against the Baltic states. To which he replied about "not allowing our compatriots to suffer in the Baltic states from the sanctions of Russia." Frankly, I did not expect to hear such nonsense. It turns out that people who in the first place are not citizens, people of the second grade, deprived of democratic and social rights, whose children have been deprived of the right to study in their native language - can these people, according to Putin, suffer even more?
      With such a cowardly politics The Baltic countries will not only deploy the Petriots, blocking the Baltic airspace, but also nuclear weapons.
      1. ZVO
        +3
        12 July 2018 11: 28
        Quote: Vita VKO
        It turns out that people who in the first place are not citizens, people of the second grade, deprived of democratic and social rights, whose children have been deprived of the right to study in their native language - can these people, according to Putin, suffer even more?


        Enough populist controversy ...
        Russians living in Latvia - do not have the right to be Russian!
        They have chosen their country Latvia - and now they are Latvians!
        They must comply with Latvian laws!
        And they are obliged to study in the Latvian language!
        For this is the integrity of the state!

        If they want to be Russian, they must move to Russia!
        Adopt exactly Russian laws!
        Learn and speak it in Russian!
        And to maintain state integrity!

        And they invented federations.
        Forgot. how did the federal union collapse?
        It is by the linguistic principle that everything has fallen.
        It is the language that is the main separating factor ...
        And only then nationality, skin color, etc.

        And we should not have any local schools.
        No non-official official languages ​​except Russian!
        Is there little separatism?
        let's grow it with tongues even more.
        1. +3
          12 July 2018 11: 58
          Quote: ZVO
          Russians living in Latvia - do not have the right to be Russian!
          They have chosen their country Latvia - and now they are Latvians!
          They can even call themselves Papuans from New Guinea, their rights in this country will never change. Because he is neo-Nazism in Africa and neo-Nazism. The result of such a policy of conciliationism in 1933 was 1941 and millions of victims of our country.
          Quote: ZVO
          And we should not have any local schools.
          No non-official official languages ​​except Russian!

          Bans and tough imposition cannot solve the problem here. Get a mirror Baltic. What would people of other nationalities want to learn Russian, you need to earn. After 70 years of communist policies aimed at developing "national identity", or rather the worst forms of nationalism, this will not be easy. The main problem is that now there is no official national policy that should be aimed at unifying cultures, they are constantly fighting for the purity of the language, culture and any similar lobud that pushes Russian civilization and every nationality into the Stone Age.
      2. +2
        12 July 2018 16: 14
        The policy of the bargain power is a bit from the aspirations of the Russian people! Yes
    2. +3
      12 July 2018 14: 02
      Quote: Old26
      We can threaten the Iskanders only to a country outside NATO, the same Georgia, or Moldova.

      Dear Vladimir! You deprive people of hope - a young man will go to the site, and you will give him a Faberge sickle. Our country cannot do anything; nuclear weapons will not apply other conditions. And he will not go to the army to develop a new weapon (or improve the old one), but will go abroad to develop a new, stable SP-2 grade sprat. Not good, however.
      1. ZVO
        0
        12 July 2018 16: 37
        Quote: asv363
        Quote: Old26
        We can threaten the Iskanders only to a country outside NATO, the same Georgia, or Moldova.

        Dear Vladimir! You deprive people of hope - a young man will go to the site, and you will give him a Faberge sickle. Our country cannot do anything; nuclear weapons will not apply other conditions. And he will not go to the army to develop a new weapon (or improve the old one), but will go abroad to develop a new, stable SP-2 grade sprat. Not good, however.


        What ordinary life is not?
        Do you have to feel yourself the hegemon of the whole world in 20 years?
        You have not beguiled with your great power?
        You personally probably Monomakh hat presses?
        There are over 200 countries in the world that are weaker than anyone - and nothing ...
        live, study. raise children. getting married work ...
        Over the past 20 years, the Chinese out of the form of payment "a cup of rice per day" have reached the level of the country's average "700 dollars" ...
        And nothing...
        They just have love for China, and no matter what it is. agricultural or technical.
        Weak or strong.

        You just can’t live?
        Necessarily in extremes only?
  4. +5
    12 July 2018 10: 22
    As soon as the children and accounts of our rulers turned out to be TAM, so NATO began to hobble, so Russia began to approach NATO's borders.
  5. +5
    12 July 2018 10: 39
    So, guys, the point is not just in the quality and quantity of the weapon, but in the readiness to use it. Even in the so-called “reconnaissance in battle,” the use of weapons is not at all like using them according to an approved plan to carry out previously set tasks necessary to achieve success, taking into account all possible countermeasures ... But have they really prepared? Or are we redeploying troops from the borders for reorganization and rearmament? For me everything is so smooth. Well, they fly, well, they demonstrate, transfer, escalate ... But intelligence, too, is probably not nailed to the stool.)) Journalists push articles - earn money, gain audience, and subscribers ... everything is fine ... I see no reason to strain and even more excited about statements, warnings and assumptions ... History suggests that shit itself will be without warning, announcements, and more ...
  6. 0
    12 July 2018 11: 56
    Why is this Suvalkin corridor actually needed? In the event of a military conflict with NATA, iron the Baltic states, Pshekof and their overseas mentors with aviation. They will snore, as many as they will fly off the ass
  7. +1
    12 July 2018 12: 02
    What were Gorbi, Yeltsin and his clique thinking? Have to fight or learn how to live without oxygen.
  8. +1
    12 July 2018 13: 33
    As a result, the only proven means that can destroy these batteries and “open” neutral airspace over the Baltic Sea for our naval aviation are the Kh-101 strategic cruise missiles (with the massive use of Tu-95MS and Tu-160 missile carriers from the weapons bays) as well as multi-purpose anti-ship / anti-radar missiles X-32, having a speed of 4,6M on the marching section of the trajectory, as well as diving towards the target at an almost vertical angle close to 90 °.

    I’ll add a few words, perhaps. According to START-3, our number of strategic warheads is 1550. In order not to reveal a terrible military secret, I’ll approximately inform you: half of our special warheads +/- kilometer are on the X-101 (I’ve underestimated the real number). Thus, everyone who wants to fight with Russia from that direction should be ready to get a real answer.
  9. 0
    12 July 2018 14: 09
    Quote: ZVO
    Quote: Vita VKO
    It turns out that people who in the first place are not citizens, people of the second grade, deprived of democratic and social rights, whose children have been deprived of the right to study in their native language - can these people, according to Putin, suffer even more?


    Enough populist controversy ...
    Russians living in Latvia - do not have the right to be Russian!
    They have chosen their country Latvia - and now they are Latvians!
    They must comply with Latvian laws!
    And they are obliged to study in the Latvian language!
    For this is the integrity of the state!

    If they want to be Russian, they must move to Russia!
    Adopt exactly Russian laws!
    Learn and speak it in Russian!
    And to maintain state integrity!

    And they invented federations.
    Forgot. how did the federal union collapse?
    It is by the linguistic principle that everything has fallen.
    It is the language that is the main separating factor ...
    And only then nationality, skin color, etc.

    And we should not have any local schools.
    No non-official official languages ​​except Russian!
    Is there little separatism?
    let's grow it with tongues even more.

    The religious factor is even more influential
  10. 0
    12 July 2018 15: 36
    Do they have enough money? Plans to write something all the masters ...
  11. +1
    12 July 2018 16: 38
    In case of war, God forbid, of course, all these tricks will not help them. In order to mix all these fortified zones with the earth, the usual barrel artillery and MLRS are quite enough. NATO is far from what was in the Cold War. I'm reviewing.
  12. +3
    12 July 2018 20: 11
    Damantsev finally discovered the concept of "radio horizon"! This is an achievement in itself! Just after having read brochures about RAS-3, the author did not notice that the minimum altitude of the intercepted targets for this complex is 60 meters ... Cruise missiles fly 30-50 meters on the march section and 15 meters (or even lower if the relief allows) the target. Therefore, the author praised by MIM-104F cannot intercept the CR in principle. Besides, what is it? The manufacturer’s booklet explicitly states that ERINT (MIM-104F) is a kinetic interceptor of ballistic missiles and should not work in the Kyrgyz Republic. For "aerodynamic" (aircraft, UAV, cr) targets, the "old" MIM-104 A and B work ... The maximum firing range is not more than 80 kilometers, this is for aircraft at high altitude, for cr naturally less, because, finally that studied by the author of the radio horizon. So why am I all this? And to the fact that the author (or the authors, I don’t even know how many of them under the nickname Damantseva writes on topvar, judging by the frequency of the articles published, a lot), of course, raises interesting and noteworthy topics. This article, by the way, is no exception. In this case, the author is absolutely not versed in the types and principles of operation of the weapons and military equipment he refers to. Leafing through booklets and watching promotional videos of all Lockheed martins there, and so on, this is certainly good, but it would not hurt to go a little deeper, study the topic, and not write any nonsense about how unguided MLRS shells will be hit by mega-highs (more than $ 2 million apiece) kinetic interceptors MIM-104F. Your style is good, the topics, as I said, are interesting, learn the materiel and the readers will be pleased to read you.
  13. 0
    12 July 2018 22: 21
    Why do many journalists and specialists consider ours such fools. Many have been talking and planning about deploying air defense systems in the Baltic states as they were about 15 years old. I think the situation is difficult, but not everything is so rosy for our partners.
  14. 0
    14 July 2018 19: 14
    To destroy the modern inpatient air defense and missile defense system, Russia has Dagger complexes with a range of 2000 km.
  15. 0
    16 July 2018 05: 13
    the purpose of the Kaliningrad 11th AK and BF with the VKS defense of the Kaliningrad enclave and the available forces and means for this is enough