Russian UAVs begin to arm? Source: the information is not true

Russia has ammunition for arming unmanned aerial vehicles, but so far there are no serial UAVs for their use. However, there were decisions to use these ammunition on the already in service with the Russian army. drones. At least, this is how the information was initially presented in Rossiyskaya Gazeta, where photographs of Russian UAVs "armed" with the 9M120 Ataka ATGM also appeared.

After some time, "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" removed the material from the publication. About the reasons below.

Judging by the originally published photos, the ATGM “Attack” could have received the drone DP-42B, created on the basis of the Austrian DA42 aircraft. According to the scant information available on the Internet, this drone was planned to be equipped with an electron-optical surveillance system, a digital camera, and a radar station. Unmanned aerial has an automatic take-off and landing system and autonomous flight along a pre-programmed route.

So now it turns out that the armament information distributed on the network for the drone is not true. This was reported by the press service of the Ural Civil Plant aviation.

It is noteworthy that for several days, while this kind of information was on the pages of major Russian newspapers, it was actively distributed over the Internet.

Comments

[Aaron Zawi]

Expected news. As the UAVs are saturated with intelligence units, any army has a desire to have shock UAVs

[Magic archer]

We still need to create something like the Predator and we need kamikaze UAVs.

[newcomer]

“Hunter B” kb Su, soon.
It is expected that this will be the 6th generation UAV. probably it was Gutenev who fell for him.

[SHURUM -BURUM]

Something in the second photo, where it should be understood, “Outpost-M2” is shown, on the pylons, judging by the glare on the side surfaces, are flat rockets (bombs) made of plywood installed?

[newcomer]

yes it’s like a bomb, like a bomb.

[SHURUM -BURUM]

The spherical surface gives a glare of a different shape, and as seen in the photo, a glare on the rounded edge of a flat surface

[newcomer]

maybe you're right, but maybe the shape of the bomb is not spherical?

[alexmach]

Well, it’s as if the object is clearly rectangular in the photo, Why did it suddenly Arkady decided that it was plywood, I don’t understand

[Shurik70]

With drone UAVs in Russia, everything is in order
So the author is not right about "there are missiles, there are no UAV strike". We have everything.
Yes, the same "Scat" was demonstrated at MAKS-2007

At the MAKS-2009 showed "Dozor-600"

And that missiles can also be hooked on reconnaissance UAVs is a big plus for home-made techniques. Although, of course, the reconnaissance UAV is not heavy, you can’t attach much to it.

[Vladimir 5]

Toto and Ano, which they demonstrate a lot, carry in five-year parades, but the serial ones are almost zero: T-14, Su-57, Coalition ...,

[newcomer]

Vladimir5, you did not try to analyze why there are a lot of developments, in a series of units. after all, a lot of subjective and objective factors influence it.

[alexmach]

Firstly, not one of these devices is in service and is not available in the troops.
Secondly, why hang a lot of it? As for me, a pair of eyes is enough for him.

[newcomer]

Shurik70, I agree with you. one trouble_ Scat MIGovsky. but, with the resurrection of the UBS MIG AT, there is hope along Skat. I hope the black strip of opal glorious KB in the past.

[SHURUM -BURUM]

Alexander, because modern planning bombs of square section have never come across in the photo. There are square containers on the pylons, as in the photo below, but these are not red bombs stabilizers

[alexmach]

Well, all the same, given the modern stealth mode and placing weapons in the internal compartments, giving them a rectangular cross section is a logical step ... Another thing is that then folding the wings would not be superfluous and there were now no messages for adopting such weapons

[-Pollux]

Quote: Magic Archer

need a kamikaze UAV

A cruise missile is a kamikaze UAV.

[Shahno]

That is, they can play a couple of hours, and in case of failure, return to base?

[-Pollux]

Quote: Shahno

That is, they can barrage for a couple of hours, and in case of failure to return to base?

There are those who can and barrage. And the ability to return - such a function was previously irrelevant, but they can also lay such an opportunity.

[borberd]

In principle, a helicopter is the same plane, you just need to lay such a function

[Yarhann]

hit UAVs like kamikaze UAVs are means for killing people by security agencies like the CIA or the GRU or the FSB. Everything on this war is finished with drones.
The military is already full of tools that are several times more effective than drones - if we are talking about a kamikaze drone - then the damn best kamikaze drone is guided or adjustable ammunition - the same shell from Grada or Krasnopol, in close combat it is a banal ATGM missile. You want a greater distance and damn the same RS only from Smerch and Hurricane - also with the adjustment. The connection of reconnaissance and target designation UAVs + modern army firearms is many times more powerful, faster and more effective than any shock drones and hats.
We have to kill people - that is, to carry out the work of hired killers, agents, etc. - yes, I agree, drones need drums - that's how the CIA uses them.

[Zomanus]

The issue of whose engine production was modestly circumvented.

[MPN]

Quote: Zomanus

The issue of whose engine production was modestly circumvented.

Engine?

Russian drones begin to arm

ATGM "Attack" received a drone DP-42B, created based on the Austrian aircraft DA42.

The second armed UAV was Forpost-M2, which was equipped with guided and planning bombs. Drone designed Based on Israeli UAV Searcher 2

And for a snack To arm this nonsense, but how to use this weapon? Literally not long ago, according to the results of tests in Syria, the shortcomings of our combat robots were examined ..., one of the shortcomings was the insufficient bandwidth of the control channels, which for applications armament is the main factor ... It is one thing to transmit a signal in some direction, and another is the high-speed exchange of information in aiming, launching, pointing ... so that it’s still oh how ahead ...

[KCA]

So here the question is not so much technological as moral, the use of Uraniums and others specifically as robots, rather than remotely controlled devices, technically they can carry out the task without communication, including using the whole range of weapons, then the speed or security of communication channels does not have no value. Is bandwidth insufficient? I doubt it very much, if you don’t transmit 3D textures in 3DDS max format, but transmit only information for BIOS, then 1200Bps will be enough with triple data duplication

[Observer2014]

Russian drones begin to arm

Photos used: https://twitter.com/o_gilvi

We probably need to drive our people through the desert for at least 200 years. In order to upload normal video materials to the articles. Rather, this problem was solved by VO. Post-Soviet syndrome is still suffering from this masochism in many state structures. And where it is not necessary

[spektr9]

How many pieces of these DP-42B? DA42 two pieces were bought, as I understand them and converted into drones?

[thinker]

Aircraft manufacturing is a structural unit of the Ural Civil Aviation Plant, which has been operating since 1993. MTP carries out licensed serial production of such types of aircraft as light aircraft and helicopters for civilian and military purposes.
2014 year. The serial production of light aircraft DA 42 NG has been mastered.

[spektr9]

Well, this is progress, then you can count on a series

[senima56]

It seems to be secret information .... but here is the photo on the Internet ?! How long will it pull?

[san4es]

The second armed UAV was Outpost-M2, which was equipped with guided and planning bombs.

In April 2009, Russia acquired 12 Israeli UAVs BirdEye-400, I-View Mk150 and Searcher II for a total of $ 53 million from Israel. Later, a contract was signed for the supply of another 36 UAVs worth $ 2010 million, and in April 15 It became known about the purchase of another 13 UAVs from Israel. On October 2010, XNUMX, it was reported that the Russian corporation Oboronprom entered into a contract with IAI for the supply of components for assembling drones.
http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/vooruzhenie_i_voenna
ya_tekhnika / rossiyskiy_bpla_forpost_nad_siriey /

[askort154]

Guys, think about it, when the "Israeli breakthrough" appeared - with the state created only in 1947 ?!
All their "breakthroughs" were exported, first of all, from the USSR. And the electronics (where we lagged behind) were provided by the Anglo-Saxons. How the Americans took out all Brown's KB from Germany. In the USSR, they created an effective sharashka, the Americans used this method, and created the sharashka Israel in their scope. Now Israel is a modern, high-tech American "sharashka".

[Samara_63]

While we are in the military-industrial complex, it’s a blat, and young scientists are paid little, there will be no UAVs ...

[APASUS]

Finally, we waited for the appearance of combat UAVs in the Russian Federation. It remains only to understand, we really prepared the entire base for this, because before that there were problems with data transfer, but now everything has already been solved?

[Echo]

And whose engines on these drones?

[rumpeljschtizhen]

all over the world, in addition to doing special ammunition for drones, and //// not vice versa

[abc_alex]

In this case, why is it? "Attack" is not ATGM. This is a universal guided missile system for ground forces. The missiles are equipped with cumulative, high-explosive and volume-detonating warheads. The control system is debugged for both ground and air platforms. Why spend years and millions doing what is already there? Experience with Whirlwind taught nothing? If the mass-dimensional parameters of the Attack suit, why produce entities?

[spectr]

It seems that the trouble with the UAV strike projects is because they begin to hang missiles on the scouts.

[abc_alex]

The "scout" attack is not to hang. Dimensions are not the same.