"Mace". How are the state secrets of Russia sold ...

Recently it became known that another espionage scandal associated with Russia is gaining momentum. Now on the “hero of the invisible front” came out the Russian special services in the city of Yekaterinburg. An employee of one of the closed defense enterprises of the capital of the Urals was found to have transferred secrets about the Russian intercontinental ballistic missile "Bulava" abroad. It is reported that this man worked as an engineer in the NGO "Automation" and participated in the development of control systems for ICBMs. It is in the transfer of materials relating to the management of Bulava to foreign citizens that the Ural engineer is suspected, whose name is not disclosed in the interests of the investigation.

By the way, this is not the first time when people who have access to the secrets of the “Bulava” are involved in spy scandals. The last lit episode concerned one of the high-ranking employees of the Plesetsk cosmodrome, Lieutenant Colonel Nesterts. In February 2012, Vladimir Nesterets was sentenced by the court to 13 years of imprisonment for actively cooperating with the US Central Intelligence Agency in transferring data on missile complexes for substantial remuneration. Then the case was qualified by the court as treason.

To which state the Ekaterinburg engineer transmitted the secrets of the ICBM “Bulava”, while also kept secret, but it is quite possible that we are talking about one of the nuclear powers interested in the information concerning the missile control systems. From the officially published data, it follows that the Bulava missile will be put into service at the end of this year. Modern modification of the rocket allows you to carry up to eight, according to others, up to ten individual-maneuvering units with nuclear filling. The trajectory of these blocks is such that none of the existing opponents of potential computers are able to calculate it (trajectory). The secret of such maneuverability lies in the developed method of controlling both the rocket itself and its units.

It is obvious that the method of controlling the rocket was chosen by foreign special services as the main target, which it was necessary, figuratively speaking, to hit with the help of a Russian engineer. In other words, if the main secret of the Bulava was at the disposal of the states concerned, then automatically a solid propellant ballistic missile could cease to be a serious threat to interceptors. And this, in turn, can only mean one thing: the long-term work of the designers and assemblers of this rocket, as well as the billions invested in the design and creation of the rocket, of the Russian taxpayers' funds turn into meaningless spending.

It turns out that even the army of the creators of the newest Russian weapons may be powerless compared to the thirst for personal gain of an individual person. It is difficult to imagine that working at such an enterprise, this person felt a lack of money. Apparently, the main role was played by the usual thirst for profit, which, as this precedent showed, can even sweep away state interests in its path.
It remains to hope that the Russian counterintelligence had managed to stop spying activities at the Yekaterinburg defense enterprise at its initial stage. Otherwise, the security of Russia may be caused such damage, which is comparable to the famous conversion program of the beginning of the 90-x.

By the way, the punishment of imprisonment, which was received for high treason by the same lieutenant colonel Vladimir Nesterets in February 2012 (13 years of the colony), can be considered soft enough if you take into account what damage to the transfer of secret information can lead to the country as a whole. .

During the existence of the USSR, for the disclosure of state secrets of a criminal, the highest measure could be expected - execution. Today, Russian legislation offers a much milder punishment for state criminals. This punishment is from 12 to 20 years of imprisonment and a fine of up to 500 thousand rubles. If we take into account that the damage from disclosure of state secrets may amount to billions of rubles (excluding payments to designers, assemblers, technical staff), then a fine of 500 thousand looks like a mockery of the very concept of state secrets ...

Information sources:
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1933291
http://www.utro.ru/articles/2012/05/12/1046204.shtml

Comments

[Sarus]

You could use it to disinfect enemy intelligence ...
But all the same, the fact that at least they catch such traitors suggests that there is still counterintelligence in the Russian Federation and it pleases ..

[Dmitriy69]

Quote: Sarus

But all the same, the fact that at least they catch such traitors suggests that there is still counterintelligence in the Russian Federation and it pleases ..

It speaks much louder about how much trash has bred recently. There is no longer just the highest measure needed, it is necessary to plant in public!

[YARY]

Twenty years of execution !!! Ten Hanging !!!

[YARY]

Lavrush where are you !!!

[werewolf]

Do not worry. In the zone they will stick a ramrod in the ear and comply with international standards regarding the abolition of the death penalty. Remember how long the Chechen Titanic lived in our Russian zone.

[neri73-r]

It is in heaven waiting for him, for betrayal!

[Neighbor]

A relative of a friend works just once at one of such enterprises!
Salary - 15.000r - lives with a family in 1-sq. How sad it is! - In 2010, there was a conversation. Of course - I do not argue - maybe he does not have access to all sorts of secrets and secrets, BUT EVERYTHING !!! People who work with such things should not - earn so little. For - Judah - there are always and everywhere - especially against the background of such salaries !!!
And the control should be stricter - once a month - they should check everyone on the Lie Detector. Perhaps this is how it is done. A common practice is among workers who know too much. + wiretapping, periodic monitoring, surveillance - everything should be - although again - the way it most likely is. I won’t be surprised if this ... gay .... - DESU merged - without knowing it! Read the Vow of Silence — a book about internal intelligence workers — there they performed miracles — back in the USSR — that hair stood on end.
BUT. Even if he wanted to sell the desu - One figs - THE PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE - MAXIMUM HARRY !!! No pity and mercy !!!

[lotus04]

Quote: Neighbor

For - Judah - there are always and everywhere - especially against the background of such salaries !!!

Judah can be found against any salary. Here the reason, most likely, is the lack of a moral side. Which state has ceased to promote for about 25 years. According to Western standards, personal profit was put out in the first place, and what is after us is hell with it. On his rack!

[sancho]

In the days of the existence of the USSR, the highest measure - execution, could be expected for the disclosure of state secrets of the criminal. Today, Russian legislation offers a much milder sentence for state criminals. This punishment is from 12 to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to 500 thousand rubles. Given that the damage from the disclosure of state secrets may amount to billions of rubles ....

Honestly zadolbal already with their games in shit democracy .... Shot!

It turns out that even the army of the creators of the latest Russian weapons may be powerless in comparison with the thirst for personal gain of a single person ....

Such figures have always been under the triple control of counterintelligence! Relaxed? Or did they manage to .... play with opponents?

And, unfortunately, the money paid is not comparable less than it should be. Especially to such staff! U, we are only close to the pipes do not look into the forest .....

From the source. Retelling.
An acquaintance of mine works at one plant, where they develop new elements for rocket engines. The GIP came to them and began to explain what he came up with there. In general, the meaning is this. It is necessary for the worker to enter the sealed chamber in hermetic clothing and treat the (important) part with "some sort of" terribly toxic rubbish (element cancer motor). At the same time, he (ISU) is told, how much money are you willing to pay to a person who will work with this rubbish? Since there are no decontamination chambers there and there will never be, Hosh is not Hosh, and when undressing one crap will be in contact (hypothetically) with this substance. To which, the management replied: - how much you received, so much you will receive. Then they asked another question: "Maybe it is worth purchasing a special robot with a sealed chamber, and the question will be removed?" In general, the answer is clear!
Then the whole group of workers said that all of them would simply quit together, and maybe the director himself, together with the ISU, would take turns to go to this cell.
This is the attitude we have left. Although it should be noted that these workers have been working there for more than a dozen years and have vast experience, they can even bring better design features to the details during testing.

That's it.

[esaul]

Sick to read ... And what has this achieved? Have you become incredibly rich or have you secured yourself and your family by passing on secrets to "the defenders of democracy around the world"? Such a stupid, greedy and primitive brainlessness ...! The time for whispering has already been exhausted - it's time for such geeks either (in the best traditions of democratizers) to go to the electric bullet or to the wall. And rightly so, that now the Duma is beginning to discuss the possibility of travel abroad for carriers of state secrets. The mess must be crushed.
It is hoped that this hoopoe did not have much time to fuse.

[Dmitriy69]

Quote: esaul

It is hoped that this hoopoe did not have much time to fuse.

You can’t hope here, not a jar of sprats. Surely a lot will have to be redone because of this reptile.

[esaul]

Quote: Dmitriy69

You can’t hope here, not a can of sprat

Dima, salute. I agree ... BUT, I didn’t mean that it’s just stupid to sit and wait - it will manifest itself, it will not manifest itself. Of course, the defense industry will be safe.

[Tersky]

Quote: esaul

It's sick to read ... And what did this get?

Good health, Valera! This ghoul with brains remained in the 90s, when everything that could and could not be sold with impunity and sold out, but for the "Bulava" it is a shame, they did not manage to really accept how this corrupt degenerate was leaked ...

[esaul]

Quote: Tersky

This ghoul with brains remained in the 90s,

Salute, old man. On TV there was a program about one of our residents in the states, who came under the distribution when our network was merged a couple of years ago. This is a high-profile "spy scandal" where Chapman surfaced. The old sourdough guy. He was tortured in prison - the "humanists" broke his ribs and injured his hands. I didn’t give up anyone, as it was said. We rescued him, but he left the country as a result. So, it was noted that all our agents from this nonsense made a lot of all kinds of confessions about their work during the investigation. So there is not only, as it seems to me, banal greed, but also the absence of a cementing idea in the country. Here is her darling and "... The firemen are looking for, the police are looking for ..."

[Tersky]

Quote: esaul

So here, not only, it seems to me, banal greed, but also the lack of a cementing idea in the country.

But this cementing idea was leaked by Humpback, dung aphid ....

[Sleptsoff]

This person is a reflection of our society today, you and me. We have long turned into a herd of orcs with a nuclear club.

[vozn_ser]

DEATH PENALTY Moreover, PUBLICALLY hang !!!!! AND TO WEEK HANG AND STELL !!! AND AFTER THE BODY TO BURN IN THE FURNACES OF THE CREAMATORY, AND THE ASHES TO RINSE IN THE UNITAS !!!

[speedy]

for treason to the Motherland - execution! And better indicative!

[ytqnhfk]

I think that it is necessary to introduce a punishment not only for traitors but also their relatives and that they would sign an agreement not to disclose state secrets, but the punishment is confiscation of all property and terms or execution! My personal opinion.

[Cadet787]

Good evening Dmitry. They will do so in the zone.

[ward]

Honestly, the news pleases ... I’ll explain ... we do not live so long under capitalism ... where everything has a price ... and our problems are the beginning of the way ... but there behind the cordon people are poisoned to death by this ... and I think it’s not a problem for money to make a bookmark even under the very president of the United States ... so for now we have an advantage ... we still have a conscience ... plus ...

[esaul]

CORD

nnnnnnnnn

Whose will you be? What secretly shoved cons? What does not correspond to the comments of your liberal views? So you speak out loud, it will be interesting ...

[father tudy-syudy]

Comrades, why should we throw tantrums? The intelligence of the "decaying" West, surprisingly for many immigrants from the USSR, continues to work today. What's so amazing about that? Stirlitz are "there" Colossal money is spent, tens of thousands of people are involved in work, the political and military leadership sets, as always, the highest standards for "extraction" and analysis! Well, what are we all here again discovering America? It's just that a person wanted to earn a little "green candy wrappers", as many people on this site like to talk about the Dollar. Business is business, you have to be more humane towards people. Kindness will save the world

[Kamaz]

We don’t need such a business!

[patline]

Kindness, you say save the world? Whose kindness? Who will be the first to be kind? Or is business a business? It is necessary to somehow decide. Or business or kindness. It would be ideal two in one, but somehow it does not come out ... or does not enter. And yet let's reflect.
Okay, alright, let the business. But then exposing this, I don’t even know what to call a traitor (I'm afraid of a ban) - there is his business risk. Bankrupt, so to speak for 20 years, and confiscation of property to his family, plus shame until the end of his life ... not even ... his betrayal will be told to his descendants and his family will have to change his last name, as a result, his father’s family will be interrupted. I took a chance - burned out.
Now about kindness. The traitor will remain alive, and thank God (it is a pity that he will remain alive, the honesty of Gavar). Maybe it will be changed for something valuable later.
So it turns out two in one. And Russian kindness (which will save WORLD) and business. This is so in Russia.
And how are you across the ocean with kindness and business in one bottle?

[nnnnnnnnn]

Quote: esaul

CORD

nnnnnnnnn

Whose will you be? What secretly shoved cons? What does not correspond to the comments of your liberal views? So you speak out loud, it will be interesting ...

I don’t know whose? my views should not have you in your specific place, I didn’t give you minuses, m is so important estimates, so you have a minus from me, and about traitors, each has its own price, as well as you probably were a communist in the past? and now the ideological Putin? or United Russia? here you are.

[Sleptsoff]

The sense of such counterintelligence, if the secrets are already gone, I do not understand what can please here, then that they bent us again? According to the most conservative estimates, a billion rubles of losses to the country, and if the guidance algorithms with which this rocket is unique were stolen, you can even throw it in the trash. In the ass such counterintelligence.

[755962]

Who did the bastard work for?

[Tiberium]

It’s necessary to shoot such people.

[Diman]

To put on a stake to suffer a little longer !!! And the complete confiscation of property from him and his immediate family !!!

[Nickname]

Well, at the same time with him and the other Judah to count. Which removes the commander in chief and welcomes the main bad guy.

[Hysnik-Tsuzoy]

It is better to drive on Red Square, followed by cutting off the limbs, as in the good old Grozny times.

[Gur]

Here the situation is not only in it, you can start shooting with Serdyukov and the General Staff, the chief of the FSB and so on. This section that sold secrets, a man with his weaknesses, greed in general with vices, and alas, we are all like that, probably everyone has their own price. But these comrades, who are not comrades at all to us, owed their duty to this adversary to calculate only at the stage of thinking about selling secrets, after all, he did not work in enemy territory, a lot of activities could be carried out to calculate. And what kind of defense enterprise is this when the documentation flows freely through the gates ?? How did the supervision services work there / ??? So shoot not up to shoot, a bunch of guilty.

[Cadet787]

Gur. How did the supervision services work there / ???
They were once busy with protecting businesses.

[Edge_kmv]

They brought the country! Engineer is now an empty place! A smelly casket is a respected man, a businessman Until the situation changes there will be a similar crap

[w702c]

and the situation will not change. we live in a cap country

[Edge_kmv]

So the situation turned out goods - money.

[Goga]

Edge_KMV - Colleague, she’s an abomination now, that she’s an abomination - Penkovsky alone was worth what (But he didn’t live under capitalism ...).
Just another good reason why the death penalty must be introduced necessarily.

[Manager]

Quote: Gogh

Just another good reason why the death penalty must be introduced necessarily.

SW Goga. I totally agree with you. But there is one But! Before the introduction of the death penalty, the ranks of the law enforcement bodies themselves must be thoroughly cleaned. And then you can immediately find a bunch of objectionable people who let down this article!

[Goga]

Manager - Colleague, in this respect you are right "+". Yu.V. Andropov, who started a serious purge in the Ministry of Internal Affairs then had someone to rely on - there were still many former front-line soldiers in the KGB who could not be bribed, they then took up the rotten ministry. Who is now, what kind of structure in the state it is even difficult to imagine

[Mostovik]

I apologize for being off topic, but in such a way as to neigh:
Newsweek named Barack Obama the first gay president.
http://lenta.ru/news/2012/05/14/newswk/
Elections and US elections. Obama's official comment is the hunt to hear.

[Dmitry Desnyansky]

There is such a job - to sell the homeland

[itr]

Well, at least they would have caught the atom

[Tirpitz]

And how many did not catch?

[_Igor_]

Otherwise, the security of Russia may be inflicted such damage that is comparable to the famous conversion program of the early 90's.

they didn’t shoot anyone for it

"By the way, the punishment in the form of imprisonment, which was received for high treason by the same Lieutenant Colonel Vladimir Nesterets in February 2012 (13 years in prison), can be considered rather mild, if we take into account the damage that the transfer of secret information can lead to overall. "

This is indicative, the state believes that betraying it is a crime of moderate severity, and this is no longer respect for oneself and for the people, it is necessary to do something about this, even introduce an "exceptional punishment", otherwise it looks like the government is offended that he did not share with him, even in the form of a tax, and not as an extremely serious crime that threatens the very existence of the state

[Timoha]

Igor,
agrees. here and I wanted to say that we are losing sight of the scum-legislators who stamp such little laws encouraging the sale of state secrets. They even wrapped Rogozinsky’s bill on toughening the responsibility for corruption in the defense industry. Is it like fighting against pedophilia, how much was the law? What kind of creatures are in the Duma?

[RUSmen]

Execute cannot be pardoned ...

[Alexander Romanov]

It is necessary to refuse the dollar and the euro payments only in rubles, and the ruble itself must be provided with gold. Inside the country, generally ban bucks. It will help to reduce the number of juds, I don’t know, but the economy of Amers is well

[Opertak]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It is necessary to refuse the dollar and the euro payments only in rubles, and the ruble itself must be provided with gold.

I agree with the first part 100%. And the second part - about the gold security of the ruble - the words of the enemy of Russia. It was the golden ruble that killed the tsarist Russia, and the current convertible ruble annually robs modern Russia.

[itr]

I am not an economist, but in my opinion it was always believed that the currency should be provided with gold reserves!

[Opertak]

Tsarist Russia was killed by Witte, who also believed. History has shown that he was VERY wrong :))

"The gold ruble is just a form of ruble convertibility. Gold rubles can be exchanged for any currency, can be taken out of the country. Paper notes were not possible. Witte simply introduced the convertibility of the Russian currency.
Then everything went strictly according to the algorithm ... - export of capital, undermining of domestic producers. Result: the economic crisis of 1900-1903, the ruin of industrialists, the dominance of foreign capital, but not industrial, but commercial. Since 1904, there has been a new crisis. "Many call Witte the Chubais of the Russian Empire. I agree with them.

[asavchenko59]

And his whole family to a pillory to shackle!

[party3AH]

It is necessary to return to the old "good" capital punishment not only for the "sellers" of the homeland.

[ism_ek]

It is hard to imagine that when working at such an enterprise, this person felt a lack of money.

Engineer's salary at NPO Avtomatiki 15 ... 20 tr When there are delays in signing defense contracts, people can sit on a salary of 5 tr for half a year.

[Welesson]

Not only at NPO Avtomatika, engineering and technical staff pay scanty salaries, first the "leaders of the country" talk about their "lack of demand", and then they are surprised at the scale of "damage from disclosure ..."

[DYMITRY]

Quote: ism_ek

Engineer's salary at NPO Avtomatiki 15 ... 20 tr

Quote: welesson

Not only at NPO Avtomatika miserable salaries of engineers

Suppose even so, although I strongly doubt it. But! Gentlemen, do you seriously think that a low salary is an excuse for betrayal ????

[ism_ek]

But! Gentlemen, do you seriously think that a low salary is an excuse for betrayal ????

A friend came to a military factory after college. They put him to work on new equipment. Only for studying abroad they spent $ 50000. Appointed a salary of 6 tr. Worked for a year, asked for an increase. He was fired on the same day that he would not speak. New equipment for a million dollars is idle for the second year! What a betrayal!
And the fact that the engineer was trying to make something out of the factory from complete hopelessness .... I do not know whether it is possible to judge a person for this.
.

[Opertak]

Quote: ism_ek

Appointed a salary of 6 tr.

In the USSR, a good worker always received more than a good engineer, and that was CORRECT! If you want to be an engineer and get a lot - be talented. My father explained this to me when I was still choosing a profession in my youth. I believed him and therefore I now have a pension more than the average salary in Russia (pah-pah :)

[DYMITRY]

Quote: ism_ek

And the fact that the engineer was trying to make something out of the factory from complete hopelessness .... I do not know whether it is possible to judge a person for this.

If he made a jar of sewing, or some kind of crap for giving - no. And for betrayal, for the transfer of secrets to foreign intelligence should be judged !!!! And by court order put on a count !!!!!!!

[ism_ek]

I'm not against judging traitors. But first of all it is necessary to judge the "effective" Putin managers, who have brought NPO Avtomatiki and other military enterprises "to the handle". Make no illusions. All that can be sold, they have sold long ago. And now they are fabricating stupid things to show their importance.
For example, Khabarov’s case http://leonid-habarov.com/, which allegedly wanted to arrange a military coup, is falling apart.

[tank64rus]

Return the "execution" article and not only for this.

[sedoii]

It seems to me that the matter is not in the laws, but in their application. 20 years is also not sugar.
That general also needed to slap them and not yet closed court, but to
everyone knew for what and how much. Whoever is involved with the mystery must understand here
there is no place for democracy.

[Oladushkin]

I'm not in defense of a spy I would like to clarify.
And how much did he get? How much is his salary? Maybe, in addition to the spy, those who pay a pittance to qualified personnel are to blame? I know for sure that we are very fond of sharing in production - directors live according to capitalist laws and have an indescribable salary, and workers are paid according to socialist - "like you work for an idea." When a worker comes and asks to raise a little salary, they look at him so strangely, with a reproach, they say ah-ah-ay -there you understand everyone is killing for the country and he wants to make personal profit for himself.

[Welesson]

I agree one hundred percent, it is much easier to look for the "extreme", but the fact that ordinary employees live on "minimum living wages", and commanders from foreign countries do not crawl out, and all the children, who have been presented with housing from their cars, don’t bother anyone ... Also not in defense of the spy.

[Sergio]

ward,

Quote: ward

Honestly, the news pleases ... I’ll explain ... we do not live so long under capitalism ... where everything has a price ... and our problems are the beginning of the way ... but there behind the cordon people are poisoned to death by this ... and I think it’s not a problem for money to make a bookmark even under the very president of the United States ... so for now we have an advantage ... we still have a conscience ... plus ...

I’m hacking ... Ward ... your writing style is freezing ... it's unpleasant to read ...
A large number of ... dots in the text should symbolize ... the author’s fine emotional organization ... leave an impression ... understatement ... and give the reader food for the mind ... Or express despair ... insecurity ... and doom ... Or ... the initial stages ... schizophrenia ... Actually ... used by the authors instead commas ... which are unclear where to put ... There is also an opinion ... that the abuse of dots ... stems from the inability ... to express your thoughts in writing ... A letter ... incoherent ... short ... sentences ... with lots of dots ... or a letter with big long sentences ... instead of the correct punctuation marks separated by dots ... in psychiatries ... they call ... schizophrenic punctuation ... In especially severe cases ... that is ... in almost every first ... much more than three points are put ...................
Also ... on ... the Internet ... ... are widespread ... individuals ... replacing ... in general ... ... any ... signs ...
kicking ....... ... (including spaces) ... with ellipses ....

[Stercoder]

oh well you atrocities, we can his button sinks ....)

[andrey586]

It is necessary to expel all employees of such enterprises through a lie detector in order to immediately sift potential traitors.

[dobrik10]

The salary at the enterprises of this sphere is actually not that big; in gold, most of the direct participants in the assembly do not bathe for sure.
As usual, all the main loot settles in the leadership and others like them.
Traitors will be much less when they begin to appreciate people!
Yes, and then the rot will be visible to the naked eye, such a billion is not enough.

[Ataturk]

I read the article.
Dear friends. Betrayal is not good. Poverty lifestyle confronts many with this. Although this does not justify the act of the traitor. I believe that it is necessary for all the people who accordingly create a new product, they need to raise their salaries. Sometimes money is an incentive to create innovative ideas.
And the traitors must be publicly executed so that there is another lesson.

Sincerely.

[Vyalik]

In my opinion, if you pay people even for 1 bucks, then if they are offered to sell their HOMELAND for 000000 they can do it. Someone from the smart said "the one who has a million is richer than the one who does not have it." It is necessary to introduce the death penalty not only for traitors, but also for their family members, a punishment adequate to the deed. Although if an inhuman sells HOMELAND to him deeply we are ... on the family. I do not remember exactly, but on some blades there was an inscription "Honor and the Motherland. "And if the chela has neither one nor the other?

[Justme]

I don’t know what a simple engineer could have stolen, but the 90s were remembered by that, first of all, the entire leadership of the research institute dragged any documentation and technical samples to the side.
And such amusing personalities wandered around .. Only among my foreign friends here are a couple who collected information for MI-6, .. a nondescript pleasant Chinese woman from the clothing market turned out to be a master of hand-to-hand combat and in general - an officer of the Chinese army, she said that before Russia - she worked in the USA ...
I worked in the 2000s on a dual-use project. Good test results and respect from the customer were obtained ... But my grandfather-boss had an illness - to merge documentation anywhere, .. including abroad ...
I went to complain about him to the FSB - to no avail.
Now I’ve returned to our dear aerospace .. And to the question - what was there in my absence - .. well, for example - .. we have Chinese interns here in technology and development ..

[Liberal]

Traitors - on the rack! Do you want dollars? A beautiful life in any NATO country ?! They might have thought that they would have time to escape and settle in the enemy US alongside the daughter of the Minister of Foreign Affairs and the family of Senator Vavilov. But counterintelligence is still at a combat post ...

[AK-74-1]

I admire our teachers from England, the USA, etc. Very competently conducted a policy of decay of the country. This is the only thing that can be said in such a situation.

[RUSmen]

If foreigners are so actively interested in the mace, then this unit is good and they are afraid of it. Even perhaps theirs PRO are not effective against maces. Therefore, they try to find out the strengths and weaknesses of the rocket. It even takes pride.

[Yarbay]

Many benefits today betrayal promises, A feat has become devotion to man.
Visakhadatta

[Olegovich]

Damn, in the same America I would have walked such a mu ... like in an orange suit with a chain on his legs for 5-8 life terms, and with us - 12 years!

[Tersky]

Quote: Olegych

Damn, in the same America I would go such a man ... like in an orange suit with a chain on his legs 5-8 life terms,

Good day, colleague! The question would be walking, or sitting on an electric chair

[Vyalik]

Rosenberg spouses on a chair condemned.

[Senzey]

Betrayal, treason at all times was punishable by death or exile. Today, exile is not a serious punishment.
And in such cases, the punishment should be maximum.
And at such secret facilities, it is apparently necessary to strengthen security at times, if cases of selling secrets are more frequent. Now everything can be drained via the Internet, very big temptations for the irresponsible employees, greedy for money.

[heruv1me]

Shoot the bastard !!! Or give it to lynching employees of the OKB.

[koksalek]

Although I am patient on comments, I would tear these eggs off for selling secrets. , besides personal gain, they have nothing in their hearts, only venality. Sorry for the comment.

[tarnishes]

In vain, the shooting was canceled, only with such methods we must fight! And the next one, who was roaring to betray his country, will think, given the death penalty! And so, 500k is a trifle for them!

[Tirpitz]

The importance of the information transmitted by the spy can be judged by the timing of adoption. If the tests go well and the deadlines are delayed, then it may take time to rework the control systems (improve protection). Then it's a problem. When the British got access to the Enigma codes, no improvements allowed the Germans to keep the negotiations secret for a long time - everything was embroidered, the British learned the principle of work - the rest was a matter of time. So it can be here.

The most dangerous thing is that it will be adopted as such. If only the generals would be able to report back and receive awards with ranks, maybe there would be no war, but after a while the mace would become obsolete and we would accept a new missile.

[vorobey]

You can’t do so comrades. we are striving for liberal values ​​and democracy, and it’s not humane to shoot, to plant.

In a barrel of shit and in live broadcast on TV around the city, ride Judah, and behind him so that the whole family goes with their parents, wife and children. And let them live after that, launder.

[Vyalik]

Well, you, this is not humane. It is necessary in a barrel of lime, and let the family harness and carry around cities and towns.

[esaul]

I came across some interesting "shpiyon" material

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The US Central Intelligence Agency, in conjunction with the apparatus of the National Intelligence Agency, held the first intelligence conference of Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transgender (LGBT). Among the participants were representatives of sexual minorities from 9 intelligence agencies, as well as the leadership of the CIA and the UPR.

CIA Deputy Director Sue Bromley welcomed the conference participants, noting the special importance of the event for solving common problems:
- Speaking about the tasks set for us, I primarily pay special attention to the CIA's main resource, namely, personnel. In order to get the most out of our employees, we must be sure that they have created an environment in which they can feel safe, confident and comfortable in order to make their own unique contribution to solving common problems.
The participants agreed that only the full functioning of the entire intelligence community can bring the expected results. The discussions touched upon the topics of experience in the intelligence environment in creating a benevolent atmosphere for representatives of non-traditional orientation. Ways to implement this policy, the possibility of learning from practical experience, and issues of improving understanding of representatives of sexual minorities were examined.
In addition, participants exchanged ideas on ways to mobilize comprehensive support and assess the contribution of employees who are representatives of the LGBT group.
Representatives of the State Department, the White House, the Lesbian and Gay Society of Foreign Policy Agency (OLGAVP) and the LGBT Intelligence Workers Network Network (RSO LGBT RV) participated in the discussion about the benefits of LGBT people.
The CIA pays a lot of attention to ensuring a variety of requirements for the tasks. This was reflected in the efforts made by the CIA to attract, hire, develop and retain employees with the skills, knowledge and skills necessary to successfully achieve their goals.

Source: perevodika.ru. ---------- The guys seemed to be racking their brains on how to make "ends meet"

[Odesit]

Yes, there is no longer where! "Great Democracy" turns into PID ... CRACY!
God forbid this.

[vostok]

We have a lot of such scum! Shoot unambiguously!

[wind]

And why not shooting, confiscation of property and restriction of the rights of all immediate relatives

[April10]

Since 91goda to sell the homeland, classified materials and everything related to defense is the values ​​of democracy, this is earnings. For this they pay well-humpbacks, Yeltsin, rooks and many, many of them.

[DERWISH]

THIS SHOULD BE SHOT !!! THESE ARE SELLERS WHICH ARE NOT AND WILL NOT BE FORGIVENESS !!!

[dengy12]

Well, since we have abolished the death penalty, we must give such damps at least for life and, moreover, with confiscation

[volcano]

Brothers have been discussing this news the other day. All are unanimous - "to wet the goats" and confiscation will not hurt. There should be no liberalism here in principle. Everyone should understand that by betraying the Motherland, he will be destroyed physically and in no other way.

[SectoR]

The highest sin is betrayal "30 pieces of silver of Judas Iscariot", he has already punished himself ...
It is high time to lift the moratorium on the death penalty ...

[dld35057]

yes of course a traitor. but that wasn’t all in 2003 or in 2004, I already forgot, sorry, the media reported that in the center of Moscow the institute was raided by the research institute, employees were kicked out of the building in broad daylight and unknown people were barricading themselves by cracking paper showing that this building already belongs to completely different firms and people. employees of research institutes that developed email. schemes for maces called the police arrived the outfit spoke with the raiders and drove away. Further, the employees called the FSB - they didn’t come at all. The employees of the research institute asked the raiders to enter the building and collect documents and samples, after much persuasion they were allowed to take their own for a while. it is not known what households. the subjects arranged it, but for a short time the activity of the research institute was disrupted. NII also had instruments with nuclear materials at its disposal, and that’s all in the center of Moscow. this is how the mace was built. that the comrades who were interested in could see during the absence of workers, this is interesting.

[Sniper 1968]

Traitors have always been. They were fewer or more, but they were ... Alas. The big family is not without a freak. Someone because of banknotes, someone because of the idea, someone lacks adrenaline (like General Polyakov, here's a fool ! ...) All those who betrayed must be PUNISHED so that they do not have illusions about quiet old age. Those who managed to hide in foreign lands should also be PUNISHED ... Millions may suffer from one traitor ... Good luck to everyone .

[Dub4ik]

"If the interested states have at their disposal the main secret of the Bulava, then an automatically solid-propellant ballistic missile may cease to be a serious threat to interceptors."
but this is already a shame

[baron.nn]

The tribunal needs to judge this paskuda !!! And at the highest level, with the defeat of the rights of all his immediate family

[Averias]

It's time for such cases to lift the moratorium on the death penalty. He knew where he worked and by whom he worked. And go for it, in a word an abomination. But the fact that Bulava is so actively interested, says that there is something in it that they are afraid of. There is. It’s like with a cavitation torpedo rocket. We came up with and we did. And they have it so far only in development and far from production.

[Celmz]

Such must be deprived of everything, so that other scum would not be ashamed of what it is 13 years when the amers got rich ...

[KAZAKHSTAN]

Cut off the hands on the elbow and leg knee to remove the kidney, ears and tongue and leave to live let everyone see

[Yoshkin Kot]

it is time to return the death penalty for the killing of two or more persons and for cooperation with foreign intelligence services

[patriot2]

Alex + article
Life should be given for this, with work in uranium mines or quarries, and with the exemplary behavior of the convict, he was logging.

[vlaval1]

of Russia

You are the horror of the world, the shame of nature,
You reproach to the god on the earth.
A. Pushkin

Well, homeland, fatherland, homeland,
What songs will I sing for you?
You deserve - no, I will not reproach,
You deserve my hatred:
For all the centuries of lies and crimes
For the geniuses persecuted by you
For the fate of rotting in slavery generations
And the generations going to slaughter,
For a fanatical, dumb faith
For the power of tyrants, and for the power of the crowd,
For the fact that you are any fanatic
You build mausoleums and pillars
For your Byzantine treachery,
For your Roman ambitions
For the vile shamelessness of the state,
For the principle: let the scum, but their own,
Because you and the person are incompatible,
For a choice: bend or push,
Because the facts are all known to you,
But you don’t want to learn a lesson,
For being a threat to the whole planet
Was and still is
Because your children are for you
No more than logs in your fire.
Having absorbed all the worst features of religions,
Carrying duplicity in his coat of arms
You confuse the words "big" - "great"
And hopelessly like yourself.
You believed and believe in excellence
But now, as before, everywhere
All the same slavery, and all the same bestiality,
All the same stupidity, and still the same lie.
Your prophets are sire and wretched
Your roads are nowhere, into darkness.
What have you come to in the end now?
Yes, in general, as usual, to nothing.
The swamp. Darkness. Bad constancy.
The smoke of fires swirls. Silence.
Both time and space are closed here,
All changes - one visibility,
It's like the clock stopped here
The figures at the helm interfere:
Fourth Ivan or Dzhugashvili
Trembling at night outside the walls of the Kremlin?
And again you, tired without the power of a fierce
(Although any power is your fierce)
Calling Beria with Malyuta invitingly
And you look forward to the delights of the whip.
Two years later or forty
Will they be in business again?
What will happen next? The same deadly hassle
Meaningless mediocre chaos.
And let fellow citizens, moaning from torment,
You swear love again and again
But I am not a slave, and therefore I do not know
Concepts like love.
Oh no! You can’t achieve forever,
Let my voice join the laudatory choir!
In all respects, the country of the killer
Guilty. Yes, the verdict will be fulfilled.

[xmmmm]

If this real secret was leaked, then for the eggs on Red Square, you need to hang it as a warning to others and to punish him.

[Evgeny B.]

Money is the time spent at work in isolation from the family (with all the ensuing consequences). If we take the maximum salary of a worker working in the defense industry, a scientist making discoveries + bonus, and all this multiplied by the time these people work until retirement (i.e., active productive age), then we will receive the monetary equivalent of the life of the manufacturer. Since the secret that turned out to be known enemies is already useless for us, the money spent on it is lost forever. Dividing these losses by the monetary equivalent of the life of a worker, engineer, scientist ... we get the number of lost lives of people of one or another specialty.
So, on one side of the scales lie the ruined lives of honest people, and on the other - the term of the conclusion of the Traitor in its monetary equivalent.
Democracy says scales are in balance.
What do you think?
And if they are not in balance, then why on earth do we need such a democracy?
Substitute and count, how?

[Evgeny B.]

Money is the time spent at work in isolation from the family (with all the ensuing consequences). If we take the maximum salary of a worker working in the defense industry, a scientist making discoveries + bonus, and all this multiplied by the time these people work until retirement (i.e., active productive age), then we will receive the monetary equivalent of the life of the manufacturer. Since the secret that turned out to be known enemies is already useless for us, the money spent on it is lost forever. Dividing these losses by the monetary equivalent of the life of a worker, engineer, scientist ... we get the number of lost lives of people of one or another specialty.
So, on one side of the scales lie the ruined lives of honest people, and on the other - part of the life of a traitor during his imprisonment.
Democracy says scales are in balance.
What do you think?
And if they are not in balance, then why on earth do we need such a democracy?
Substitute and count, how?

[Evgeny B.]

Sorry, I made a mistake. The phrase "So, on one side of the scales lie the ruined lives of honest people, and on the other - the term of imprisonment of the Traitor in its monetary equivalent." should be read as:
So, on one side of the scale lie the ruined lives of honest people, and on the other - part of the life of a traitor during his imprisonment.

[lBEARl]

Guys, for such crap there should be an unambiguous execution without the right to pardon. I express my opinion as an employee of the prosecutor’s office.. (all this tolerance has lured me in)!

[Rusik.S]

Shoot yourself, send your family to Siberia! Then there will be order!

[Dmitry23RUS]

Skin him alive on camera and show him on all channels, then no one will spy.

[Snow]

It's a pity that bodily torture is prohibited. These people must die long and painfully. Complete confiscation. the entire dynasty to prison.

[CC-18a]

Imprison the traitor for 25 years (the ultimate punishment according to the law).
In addition to this, his family should lose all benefits from the state; even a simple travel card should become an expensive pleasure for them.
Create a black list of those closely associated with traitors to the Motherland, so that any benefit from the state in no way gets to these scoundrels.
What does family have to do with it? and besides! the family is directly connected, the wife is obliged to leave her husband if he is a traitor or even hints at treasonous activities, children must leave their father if he decides to betray the Motherland for profit or for any other purposes... or stop and report to the FSB... how At a minimum, a family should behave towards each other in such a way as to suppress any thoughts of betrayal... To betray your homeland, you have to be some kind of goat...

Yes, yes, by the way, it is a good punishment to report the name of this traitor more than once through all federal channels!
Like, “This full name did something like this as a result of which he tried to give the United States the opportunity to attack you all and kill you all, take away your relatives, destroy your homeland.... and all this for a couple of thousand bucks, remember his full name.”

[vadimN]

And if we take into account that a whole series of submarines have been designed and are already being built for the Bulava, then turning the missile into a harmless toy “lowers” ​​our country by several hundred billion more and several years of wasted labor (in addition to the labor costs on creating the missile itself).

[aksakal]

No luck, no luck!!!
Either the Superjet or the Bulava was drained!!!
We can only hope! What to hope for? In such things, there is enough hint in which direction to dig - and the specialists in the US defense industry will actually dig, they are not fools there!!!! Called critical information. And it may weigh a few bytes, but this does not diminish its importance. And the amers will not pay even such a small thing as 50 tons of greenbacks in vain, since they paid, it means they got what they need!!!!
The mace will have to be redesigned, or even invent new algorithms - new principles of guidance, maneuvering and control! These are crap!!! And this Ginteev (that’s his last name) is so Russophobic that he didn’t realize what he was doing?
Why is counterintelligence in the Mossad so effective that not a single secret has ever escaped from Israel? Isn’t it time to take a closer look at the FSB and begin again to develop effective intelligence and counterintelligence? This is already a serious and pressing issue. This is a safety issue!

[eduard.ganush]

For such people it’s lifelong.

[Wolkin]

Otherwise, the security of Russia may be inflicted such damage that is comparable to the famous conversion program of the early 90's.

Can anyone remember the names of the heroes of the “conversion program” of the 90s?
And what happened to them?

[Vadim-ragalevich]

For treason to the Motherland - Execution!!!

[Stasdubov]

I have one acquaintance at school, so if he was offered to hand over state secrets for a good reward, he would definitely pass.
It's sad that there are more and more people like this....

[okroshka79]

Dear "Amer"! Sit down and don't tweet about business and kindness that will save the world. Apparently, you ALREADY sold your homeland a long time ago for rotten greens. And now you are happy.

[mars6791]

Come on. Shoot, hang, pump up mischief. Yesterday I looked at the photos of the first Chechen one, my soul felt so gloomy and scary, but our government has already sold us dozens of times, for a cheaper price, I’m disgusted by your comments, even though they seem to be fair. .

[gen.meleshkin]

For such clowns, the moratorium on execution should not apply.

[alt_r]

For this, immediately put him up against the wall

[Stercoder]

Is it difficult to write a collective open letter to the president?
about lifting the moratorium on the death penalty for terrorists and their accomplices, traitors, traitors, pedophiles, maniacs?
here is the page -letters.kremlin.ru
-Well, are we writing?

[M. Peter]

It’s time to cancel the moratorium and introduce an article for treason...

[omulu]

In general, for such an act it is necessary, as in Japan at one time, for betrayal, the whole family should be executed, or given shame.

[Sana'a]

It’s terrible how it’s possible, I’m afraid to imagine who wasn’t caught

[uizik]

In the Soviet Army, for the loss of a document classified as “secret”, the term is 5 years. And then there's espionage! Mockery! They are selling their homeland, but they have a minimum sentence! This is what Gorbachev's slogan led to - "Get rich!" Recruiting for money has become much easier!

[slava7312]

need to be shot!!!

[nemec55]

The words of Catherine the Great “I am more Russian than the Russians themselves” become clear.

[Unknown]

This happens due to working conditions and low salaries.
If people were paid a decent salary, with which they could buy an apartment and live well, there would be fewer such cases. It will probably be a discovery for many, but salaries at such enterprises are very modest, comparable to the salaries of store managers.
Otherwise, it turns out that the salary is only enough to pay for apartments, food and the purchase of some clothes made in China... In such situations, foreign intelligence does not need to strain particularly hard to agree on the sale of any secrets for a fee.

[Pravdoruba]

I don’t understand, if something didn’t suit you, leave the cordon. Why, working in your homeland, sell its secrets???
Give the enemy into the hands of the crowd. The people themselves will decide his fate.

[ToLyanSter]

To which state the Yekaterinburg engineer transferred the secrets of the Bulava ICBM is also kept secret for now, but it is quite possible that we are talking about one of the nuclear powers interested in the information related to the missile control systems.

I'm wondering if this data has been declassified?
What information about the Bulava and to whom did the traitor give it? And was it possible to convey it at all?

[Orion]

Why did he receive eight years if the sanction of the article is at least twelve?