The sign puncture of the Israeli Air Force in the sky over Beirut before the war with Iran: no easy ways are expected

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TEL AVIV AND WASHINGTON BEGIN THE GAME WITHOUT EUROPE



During the first month since the cancellation of the “nuclear deal” with the Islamic Republic of Iran, announced by Donald Trump 9 in May 2018, during the White House briefing, two extremely important meetings took place between Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President Vladimir Putin, as well as the heads of defense departments States Avigdorom Lieberman and Sergey Shoigu. As is known, during the talks, the last of which took place with the participation of the Chief of the General Staff of the AOI, Gadi Ayzenkota, the operational situation in the Syrian theater of operations was examined in detail. Also, unofficial agreements were reached, in accordance with which the Israeli army refuses regular attacks on the units of the Syrian Arab army and ceases to support the militants of the Free Syrian Army and Al-Nusra (banned in the Russian Federation) in the south-western “opposition beachhead” around Dar'a, in exchange for this, Tel Aviv received a bonus in the form of stopping the transfer of anti-missile systems C-300PMU-2 “Favorite” to the Syrian air defense forces, as well as Russian pressure on Damascus and Tehran. Ia Iranian units of the Revolutionary Guards in the territories of Quneitra Province, adjacent to the Golan Heights.

In fact, we have mutually beneficial points of contact, thanks to which the contingent of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria and the command of the CAA receive noticeably less intensity of fire resistance from the militants during the upcoming sweeping of the Dar'a environs (American support through Jordan’s territory is also present, but without Israel’s support decrease significantly), and the IDF receives dividends, which consist in the elimination of the main fears ’units of the IRGC from the close approaches; Including small detachments of volunteers and Iranian military advisers. But, unfortunately, all these "undercover games" and unofficial deals with Israeli officials do not lead to the main goal - to relieve pre-escalation tensions in the entire Asian region, where the most interested party in fomenting a regional conflict with Iran is precisely the Jewish state that uses its lobby in the US Congress and Senate for the speedy inclination of Washington to the military scenario. It is for this reason that after Lieberman’s April visit to Washington for consultations with the head of the Pentagon, James Mattis, we observed an unusually rapid denunciation of the nuclear agreement.

Nevertheless, having managed with cunning, by concluding the 110 billion-dollar arms contract in May 2017 and providing the opportunity to participate in the division of the Syrian territories on the eastern bank of the Euphrates, to "put together" an anti-Iranian military-political coalition involving Saudi Arabia, Washington and Tel Aviv they tried to ignore the position of European players, for whom the loss of Tehran in the energy market is completely disadvantageous. After all, every day the countries of the European Union get 0,45 million barrels of oil from Iranian fields. But there are also other areas of economic cooperation with Iran, bringing the European "money-box" a multi-billion dollar income. For example, the Airbus contract alone for the supply of Iranian carrier Iran Air of passenger A320, A330 and A350 / WXB airliners is estimated at 18 billion dollars. For this reason, it is quite logical to observe the earliest creation by the European Commission of a special package to protect European companies from sanctions pressure from the US Treasury, which became known to 17 in May. Recall that about three months ago, the current US Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin made a statement about blocking the assets of European companies that interact with the Iranian side.

At the moment, the Israeli side in the person of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is completing the tour of the three leading states of Europe (Germany, France and Great Britain), has not found any support for the American-Israeli initiative to get out of the “nuclear deal”. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Emmanuel Macron, as well as British Prime Minister Theresa May pointed out that there is no alternative to the current agreement from the EU point of view. This is exactly what was expected. Puzzled by the failed trip to Europe, Bibi immediately tried to divert the attention of the world press with unexpected aggressive rhetoric towards the Syrian leadership, accusing him of supporting the missile attacks of the Iranian units on the IDF strongholds on the Golan Heights.

He also threatened to strike again at the positions of the CAA, which are located near the division of the IRGC. But everyone knows who was the first to regularly strike at the outskirts of Damascus Airport, and also attacked the warehouses of Yahont anti-ship missiles P-800 belonging to the Syrian Arab Army. And therefore, to complain about countermeasures taken by Iranian military units, Israel has no right. Moreover, following the Russian-Israeli consultations, the activity of the IRGC units in the south of Syria with Moscow’s submission actually decreased, as evidenced by the tactical online map syria.liveuamap.com.

There is only one conclusion: Tel Aviv is trying to obscure the public with fake statements about continuing anti-Israeli actions of the IRGC from the southern provinces of Syria, while Moscow fulfills its obligations, and Europe completely refuses to follow Washington’s destructive activities in Front Asia The main goal of Tel Aviv against this background is to maintain a high level of tension in the region, which is why we see today such statements of Netanyahu being sucked from the finger.

Tehran in this difficult situation behaved quite adequately and predictably: 5 June 2018 of the year, at the beginning of the Israeli Prime Minister’s tour of European countries, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, Ali Akbar, informed the IAEA of the beginning of the process of increasing uranium enrichment, as well as launch of new centrifuge production facilities in Natanz. In response, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo did not find anything more original than to state that Washington "will not allow Tehran to develop nuclear weapon". In reality, the situation is such that the implementation of an official massive missile attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, as well as covering their anti-aircraft missile batteries with Tomahawk strategic cruise missiles and tactical long-range AGM-158B JASSM-ER, promises the Pentagon a huge shaft of problems, consisting in a retaliatory strike on US Air Force bases in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar (Al-Dafra and El-Udeid) by Iranian tactical ballistic missiles "Fateh-313" with a range of 500 km, as well as medium-range ballistic missiles -keeping "Sajjil-2» and «Qadr».

"PROKOL" NEAR LEBANAN AIR SPACE

As a result of such a "retaliatory response", Washington may, within just a few minutes, lose its strategic foothold (jump airfields, etc.) on the western coast of the Persian Gulf. It is easy to assume that even the US Air Force command is unlikely to approve of such a scenario. Another thing is a sudden, lightning-fast and maximally covert operation, similar in level of surprise to Hel Haavir's preemptive strike on the air bases of the Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian air forces in the Six Day War called Moked (Focus), as well as a similar operation to Osirak in the plan of quickly and invisibly overcoming air defense systems in low-altitude flight mode. It is no secret that the greatest bets in such a daring air mission can be made exclusively on one instrument - the Israeli Air Force, whose flight personnel have already had a high level of experience in deceiving enemy air defense systems for 51 years. The main means in such an operation will be not so much the tactical fighters F-15I "Ra'am" and F-16I "Sufa", which have a huge EPR of 2 and 10-12 square meters. m, respectively, how many advanced stealth fighters of the 5th generation F-35I "Adir", equipped with two external fuel tanks and equipped with inconspicuous "narrow bombs" of the GBU-39 / B "SDB" type, successfully used against targets of the government forces of Syria about a month ago ...

At the moment, the command of Hel Haavir in the person of Major General Amikam Norkin, as well as the flight crew of the 140 Fighter Squadron receiving the Adira, sing in ode to this vehicle, emphasizing its low visibility in the enemy airspace, viewed through radar detectors given by the Buk-М2Е ("Dome") and С-300В / С-400 (9С15М2 "Review-3" and 96Л6). So, about three weeks ago, an F-35I “Adir” photo appeared flying online over the waters of the Eastern Mediterranean, about 15 km from Beirut (the photo shows the airport of the capital of Lebanon). But what else do we see in this photo?


F-35I "Adir" (near Beirut) with a visible Luneberg lens


A small trapezoid module can be seen in front of the left tail of the vertical tail unit (stabilizer), which is nothing more than a Luneberg lens, a device designed to increase the effective diffusion surface visible by the enemy’s radar to indicators that are hundreds of times greater than real. But what is the purpose of placing a set of 4-x Luneberg lens on sverhmalozametnom fighter 5-generation flying at a distance of about 140-150 km from Tartus, where the division of S-300V4 dowry radar "Review-3» and C-400 with BBO 96Л6, capable of detecting a target with 0,005 ESR apt. m (as stated by state specialists) from a distance of the entire 30 — 50 km? It is quite easy to answer this question: the real EPR of the advertised “toys” worth 90 million dollars is very far from the figures provided by the Americans and makes up those very 0,1 — 0,2 square meters. m, about which for over a decade Russian experts and bloggers have been talking.

Objects with such a reflective surface are capable of bearing the above-mentioned Russian radar stations at a distance of 140 km. So we were the witnesses of the first serious puncture, which questioned the parameters of the secrecy of Lightnings in general and Adirov in particular. It is quite natural that adding to this “radar portrait” also suspended fuel tanks, which for low-altitude maneuvering in the Iranian mountain ranges of Zagros are sure to be required, will increase the effective reflective surface to even higher elevations; and we all remember well that our “300th” in the PMU-2 version and with the “long-sighted” 64Н6Е detection radars the Iranian side has already received, which means we are making the appropriate conclusions.

Information sources:
https://theaviationist.com/2018/05/24/image-of-israeli-f-35-flying-off-beirut-with-radar-reflectors-as-well-as-more-details-about-the-adirs-first-strikes-emerge/
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=20819
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=20699
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/c300v/c300v.shtml
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  1. +7
    8 June 2018 05: 54
    ah Damantsev ... surprised. otherwise everything is bad in the army, everything is wrong (they have better). switched to positive. the puncture with “lenses” is certainly interesting, but I’m sure now “our former people” will easily explain this “cant”. Yes
    1. +9
      8 June 2018 06: 24
      Or Americans strongly recommended that Israelis fly only with lenses to avoid revealing the true characteristics
      Or Israel tried to pass off an adir for a passenger Boeing to take selfies (for this, they could also fly with a transponder from a civilian side).
      Or is it all an agreement with the Russians in Tartus and the Bibi agent of the Kremlin :)
      1. +2
        8 June 2018 07: 39
        Quote: g1washntwn
        Or Americans strongly recommended that Israelis fly only with lenses to avoid revealing the true characteristics
        Or Israel tried to pass off an adir for a passenger Boeing to take selfies (for this, they could also fly with a transponder from a civilian side).
        Or is it all an agreement with the Russians in Tartus and the Bibi agent of the Kremlin :)


        Adir. Completely alone.

        Adir, Adir! Completely alone!

        How joyful lamentation from a joke!
      2. 0
        8 June 2018 22: 14
        Suddenly! This is me about Bibi ..
  2. +20
    8 June 2018 07: 47
    The lenses are set so as not to reveal the true values ​​of the "EPR" near systems capable of measuring and tracking it. But you can’t hide the sew in the bag. Flying Penguins are increasingly being delivered to US allies. The Turks claim to be "their own", and then they still have the S-400 appears. And the Turks will check the "invisibility" of their aircraft by the Russian complex ... And? There are two options. Or is it really “invisible” and our developers will urgently begin to “twist” our equipment to improve performance. Or is he really visible - and a grand scandal is inevitable ...
    1. 0
      12 June 2018 18: 59
      In fact, a topic-conscious person does not need to have seven bumps in his forehead in order to understand only by the appearance of the F-35 that he is not something that is not invisible (there were no invisible aircraft, no, and they are unlikely to ever appear), but even hardly noticeable (unlike F-22 or B-2) can not be called. It is no accident that the American Congress at one time banned the sale of inconspicuous planes even to the closest allies, because of which they did not sell the F-22 to either Japan or Israel, as if they hadn’t requested, and the belated originally planned as an easy multi-functional to replace the F-16 fighter After the collapse of the USSR, they specifically decided to make F-35s for export, deliberately disfiguring the geometry and mainly adapting it to strike the ground, giving it huge internal weapons compartments and a lot of fuel, resulting in a ridiculous small but heavy bomb truck suitable only for war with the Papuans, and even then not so.
  3. +13
    8 June 2018 08: 24
    Ali Akbar, Head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, notified the IAEA of the start of the process of increasing enrichment rates uranium, as well as the launch of capacities for the production of new centrifuges in Natanz.

    So. Those who are not in the subject. How many uranium bombs and explosions in human history ?! As far as I remember - one thing, Baby! And all because an incredible amount of uranium is required, there are simply NO deposits on this planet on Earth now, it was one, it was scraped to the bottom in the 45th USA!
    All nuclear weapons are in plutonium, and uranium centrifuges are not suitable for it. Anyway, plutonium is not obtained in centrifuges, although then they will also be used. So all attempts to sew Iran with nuclear weapons in SUCH centrifuges are nonsense.
    1. +5
      8 June 2018 14: 26
      Oh, why are you writing about what you don’t understand, from the word at all?

      PS: No need to answer, this is a rhetorical question.
    2. +3
      8 June 2018 14: 33
      In Mongolia, Australia and Canada there are suitable uranium deposits
      1. +8
        8 June 2018 16: 16
        Quote: uhu189
        suitable uranium deposits

        There are some, only for the Kid it took a thousand tons of Congolese ore with wild simply uranium content, almost pure uranium, about 70 percent - there are no more such deposits. And this whole pack, 700 tons of pure uranium — moreover, it seems, was added to it later — went to three bombs. And the deposits you named have IMPORTANT values ​​of uranium oxide content. That is, the problem is several (5-6) orders of magnitude more complicated.
        Quote: vadimtt (Vadim)
        Oh, why are you writing about what you don’t understand, from the word at all?

        Chemist-technologist, Federal State Unitary Enterprise one, “box”, I’m just sorting it out, and it is from the word at all. Who are you, the voice in the night? Well, let me know why there were no more uranium bombs? AND? The talker ...
    3. +3
      8 June 2018 18: 02
      Quote: Jerk
      ...
      All nuclear weapons are in plutonium, and uranium centrifuges are not suitable for it. Anyway, plutonium is not obtained in centrifuges, although then they will also be used. So all attempts to sew Iran with nuclear weapons in SUCH centrifuges are nonsense.

      So plutonium-239, from uranium-238 is obtained, with which it seems there are no special problems. And how much does this plutonium need for a nuclear fuse? Anything above 100 ct is already a thermonuclear fusion. What to remember the kid, there the coefficient of use of nuclear fuel was 1%. Now it’s hard to imagine how far they have taken - 60% of the long-passed stage, as I understand it. And how to reduce the critical mass? And why all this? We doubt that Iran will be able to make a bomb?
      1. +6
        8 June 2018 19: 06
        I have no doubt that it WILL NOT. Plutonium is obtained in reactors, then a long and tedious process of separation of flies and cutlets, which technologies, by the way, still needs to be obtained from somewhere. BUT! Most importantly, the entire process under the control of the IAEA, under a six agreement, and all spent fuel for reprocessing from Iran are TAKEN away, they have nowhere to get plutonium from. All.
        1. +8
          8 June 2018 19: 20
          Oh, and yes, to obtain plutonium, a very characteristic type of reactors is needed that cannot be mixed up with ordinary energy reactors - and who will build them for them ?! And again - such a reactor - not a box of matches, it cannot be hidden, but the process, I repeat, under the control of the IAEA.
          The whole point is that the United States stupidly does not know how to build reactors, and the contract from them floated away - the last reactor in the USA was introduced more than 30 years ago, the builder is currently the only one - bankrupt and it has 2 unfinished blocks in the USA, 8 in China and another contract in India - and pay all forfeit - BUILD SOME
          1. +2
            8 June 2018 23: 21
            Trump terminated the contract - the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, Ali Akbar, notified the IAEA of the beginning of increasing the rate of uranium enrichment .... What is the incident? The IAEA will not allow or Ali Akbar bluffs? Iran does not have the necessary technology, but why does Kim Jong-un have? Does Iran have weaker science than in the DPRK? A byproduct of the operation of any power reactor is the emission of neutrons of those energies that uranium-238 can capture to convert to plutonium-239. Of course, building a reactor specifically for such a task (breeder) is one thing, and finding the opportunity to place in the reactor volume and irradiate the additional mass without disturbing its operation is another. But this is not a technical problem, it is a product performance problem. Separation of flies from cutlets, I think, too, will not be a big problem.
            1. +3
              9 June 2018 06: 44
              Well, here we are already falling into the field of unlikely hypotheses, which in practice are not feasible. Well, yes, there will be plutonium in an ordinary reactor, and America can be picked out there, and this muck will be even more fun in some respects. The problem is that
              * Plutonium yield at such reactors is scanty.
              * And all the fuel is also taken from Iran.
              Those. theoretically, they can "wash out" the rod or two, quietly build a plant for refining plutonium, let’s say they dig the technology off ... Well, they’ll accumulate grams of plutonium for one charge for centuries, and it’s not salt with matches, plutonium does not live for a long time))) They will never accumulate on a single charge feel
              1. 0
                9 June 2018 10: 55
                Why is the yield of plutonium scanty? Because the resulting plutonium is used to ensure the criticality of the reactor during fuel burnup and maintain its reactivity? In this case, yes, miserable. But what, it is impossible to find a technical solution if the scientific problem on this issue was solved in the 40s of the last century? By the way, to solve it, they began to build reactors. In Iran, what do American inspectors snoop where they want and when they want, like ours in the 90s? In the end, people will decide everything, it will depend on the scientific potential, although here, we will not say who, we also tried hard. If this were so impossible, then what was the US and Israel so worried about?
                1. +5
                  9 June 2018 11: 47
                  Thank you gentlemen! I recorded everything. Questions will I turn to you.))) I will go to master a couple of bombs))))
                  1. +1
                    9 June 2018 14: 08
                    Quote: P0LYM
                    Thank you gentlemen! I recorded everything. Questions will I turn to you.))) I will go to master a couple of bombs))))

                    laughing Write another hint: Fuel assemblies (FAs), for example, of our VVER and RBMK reactors have 50000 fuel elements (TVEL).
                    In reality, power reactors do not operate in the “campaign” mode, but in the regime of quasi-continuous overloads (for example, for WWERs, each fuel assembly is rearranged three times before being completely removed from the reactor). Therefore, the excess reactivity of fresh fuel is often compensated by the fact that at the same time in the reactor there is a relatively slightly burnt out fuel, and a much burned out one. Thus, the purpose of physical calculations is to determine the nuclide composition of the fuel at each moment of reactor operation, establish the necessary boron concentration, and select the mode of fuel assembly permutations. Currently available calculation methods allow you to completely solve the tasks.
                    Matveev L.V., Rudnik A.P. Almost everything about a nuclear reactor. - M.: Energoatomizdat, 1990 .-- 240 p .: ill. - (Popular science library of the student).
                    Well, what is the problem here to establish several elements structurally similar to fuel elements with uranium-238, to carry out the necessary calculations and carry out safe process control. The inevitable loss of power generation can be sacrificed. Here the main thing is who believes. I think specialists for Iran’s nuclear power industry were trained well in the USSR.
                2. +3
                  9 June 2018 13: 32
                  Israel is tied to the United States, husband and wife are one Satan. And Israel does not need any strengthening of Iran at all. Why the United States - wrote above - money is floating away, and sailing again to the enemy - to Russia. So there is only one Satan - and the reasons are the same.
                  Further, it is precisely what they will snoop about, just as we have in the 90s, and that is exactly what Iran has long agreed to.
                  Quote: V. Salama
                  Because the resulting plutonium is used to ensure the criticality of the reactor during fuel burnup and maintain its reactivity?

                  Hell knows. I am not a physicist, I am a chemist, what allies said - I repeated that. I can say one thing - in spent nuclear fuel, plutonium is really a miser, this is what I myself have seen more than once.
                  Yuri, about the bomb - it’s better not to look at this forum, but in agriculture))) They have different fertilizers there. Over in Oklahoma City, one such farmer for a couple of kiloton equivalents plummeted, about 8 hundred buildings were damaged, and there were 2 blind squads ... And all on fertilizers)))
                  1. 0
                    9 June 2018 17: 36
                    Nah ... on the farm it’s not comme il faut somehow ... I want to stir something highly intellectual and technological))))) on plutonium, America or some kind of Gandurasia))).
                  2. 0
                    9 June 2018 18: 53
                    Yes, indeed, hell knows what Iran will agree to, everything will depend on whether or not they agree. In politics, often one goal is covered by another, also a fact. I here led to the fact that Iran is unlikely to differ greatly in the possibilities and conditions for their implementation from India, Pakistan ... Since the problems that you indicated are theoretically solved, and we don’t know what the practical possibility is. In the spent fuel of the energetic reactor of plutonium, it is really a minuscule, so they strive for this - to work it out to the fullest. As for natural reserves, one of the estimates is: “The content of uranium in the earth’s crust is about 1000 times more than gold, 30 times more than silver, and almost as much as zinc and lead. Uranium is characterized by significant dispersion and almost ubiquitous: in rocks, soils, water of the seas and oceans (about 3 g / l), etc. Only a small part of uranium is concentrated in deposits where the uranium content is 100 - 1000 times its average value. " Secondly, how to add uranium ore under the guise of something legal there on the international market is also a dark question. For example, initially they were interested in uranium ores not for the sake of uranium itself, but because of its constant companion - radium, the content of which in ores is 1 g per 3 tons of uranium. In the extraction of radium from uranium ore, uranium "waste" was not used and went to the dump. From 1906 to 1939, 1 kg of radium was obtained and 4000 tons of uranium were simultaneously mined. We mined it in small quantities and for use in industry, for painting the glass of semaphore and traffic lights, as well as positive images in photography. Somewhere about these remnants of the former "luxury" they could recall and push quietly. But this is an example of the possible, of course, I think there are other possibilities.
    4. 0
      14 June 2018 09: 01
      nonsense and your reasoning about the explosions (nuclear) - not counting 2 American in Japan, drive our wiki into the USSR Nuclear Test Chronology (1949-1962) - Wikipedia, and you will learn many interesting things about weapons-grade plutonium, then visit in Sarov or Snezhinsk Museum of Nuclear Weapons, you will understand how much the nuclear bomb has decreased, but not even that strikes me, you HOW CHEMISTS should know this !!! - Deposits
      The largest uranium reserves, taking into account reserve deposits, have: Australia, Kazakhstan (first place in the world in mining), Russia.

      The deposits of Russia contain almost 550 thousand tons of uranium reserves, or slightly less than 10% of its world reserves [source not specified 1876 days]; about 63% of them are concentrated in the Republic of Sakha (Yakutia). The main uranium deposits in Russia are: Streltsovskoye, Oktyabrskoye, Antey, Malo-Tulukuevskoye, Argunskoye molybdenum-uranium in volcanics (Trans-Baikal Territory), Dalmatovskoye uranium in sandstones (Kurgan region), Khiagdin uranium in sandstones (Republic of Buryatia), Southern gold-uranium in metasomatites and Northern uranium in metasomatites (Republic of Yakutia) [24]. In addition, many smaller uranium deposits and ore occurrences have been identified and evaluated [25]. And Kazakhstan is still forgotten! So I'm sorry, but you are a layman, well, what about unsolved problems, I remember how in 92 American specialists visited Snezhinsk - they were just in shock (computers out of 70 with coolers) and the tasks that our scientists DECIDED were an order of magnitude higher- The ANSWER was covered in genius our scientists (they wrote in a local newspaper), where an equation was compiled describing actions in a nuclear explosion, the result of us and this computer was 70 years old! Yes, and the Iranians are not fools, while they bargained with ours (and America’s veto for the sale of s-300) they made their air defense (analogue of the s-300) Yutak, so I think that the mind will be enough and the desire for them.
      1. +1
        14 June 2018 10: 04
        Learn the materiel. The explosion at the Alamo-Gordo test site is a plutonium charge, Fat Man is a plutonium charge, I know about small nuclear charges, there is a nuclear grenade that penetrates a diplomat - only plutonium again.
        There was a uranium charge - one thing in history
      2. 0
        9 July 2018 07: 34
        I, as you say, a layman? Then you have two simple questions - do you know that uranium has several isotopes? This is the first. And now the second one is the “uranium-molybdenum” deposit laughing What form is uranium there? How to clean it? Hemorrhoids, however, first acidify, then restore - and on a chain of centrifuges. Now slowly - compare with the labor costs of producing uranium from uranium resin, Congolese, where no uranium needs to be mined, and only clean uranium from impurities? And even under such conditions, a non-belligerent country in fact tensed up - and built only one single bomb. Some thoughts arise, why?
        So who, as you said, is an amateur?
  4. +5
    8 June 2018 08: 30
    Again Damantsev confused everyone, why is there a lens? It’s clear that nothing is clear
    1. +5
      8 June 2018 09: 13
      Quote: Spambox
      Again Damantsev confused everyone, why is there a lens? It’s clear that nothing is clear

      To increase the target mark on the all-round visibility indicator (IKO), if I understand correctly. The mark from the fighter is less than that from the bomber. The FU-35 is positioned as "invisible", and it is "visible" along the way, for this they put a lens so that the operator detects it as a bomber.
      1. +7
        8 June 2018 17: 52
        The author’s version, in my opinion, reflects the phobias and complexes of many commentators. Everything that has been done there is awesome. And here we have ....
        I want to remind you that in the USSR there was a different approach - remember the history of the creation of the Su-27. The prototype T-10 was created with an eye to the overestimated characteristics of the F-15. We know the result - here is an example of a wise approach. And the ubiquitous groaning and underestimation of the potential enemy’s potential promises many pleasant surprises in wartime. As for the F-35, it’s not invisible (they don’t exist at all), but an inconspicuous aircraft, which is detected by air defense at a shorter distance, which gives it certain advantages. But it would be a big mistake to evaluate the potential of this aircraft only on the basis of this factor. It is a revolutionary cybernetic filling that makes it an air defense breakthrough airplane, about which almost nothing is known from the press. This is where things unpleasant for the enemy can be hidden.
        And I think the author’s article is frivolous and fanfaronic, excuse me.
        1. +3
          8 June 2018 18: 02
          From a series of articles "Armor is strong and our tanks are fast" ....
          1. +5
            8 June 2018 22: 19
            Yours, your tanks I want to notice ..
            "And sohen wei Adira is fast" .....
      2. +1
        8 June 2018 20: 04
        Something I can’t see this lens in any way, maybe someone will mark it in the photo. Thanks in advance.
        1. +1
          11 June 2018 00: 43
          I will not see

          "-And I do not see. But he is!" laughing
  5. +2
    8 June 2018 08: 54
    The Israelites will naturally begin to "prove" that 35 of them are invisible and invincible wink but that’s it. only a real battle can be set over "and", but here it will already depend a lot on the preparation of the operation itself and on the performers - the crews of the aircraft and their opponents, air defense calculations, the attacking side always has an advantage. Israel has excellent intelligence work, the intelligence capabilities of Iran in Israel are unknown to us in order to uncover possible preparations for striking, the various technical capabilities of the Iranian air defense at distant approaches are also not clear, they can be warned by the Syrians, or even ours (the prestige of the Russian S-300 systems in service with the Iranians should not suffer)
  6. +14
    8 June 2018 09: 13
    PPC .. How much can you already write about this. No invisible aircraft! There are subtle in a certain range. Long-wave surveillance radars of the Russian Federation perfectly see penguins at a great distance and tie tracks. But they cannot induce missiles (lack of space-time resolution) - this is the whole point of "invisibility". And this is the basis for counteraction tactics, in a combination of various means of detection and defeat.
  7. +13
    8 June 2018 10: 24
    We won’t prove anything to you, invent it yourself tongue
  8. +8
    8 June 2018 12: 15
    As for the promises not to transfer “Favorite” s Syriytsvm. It looks like outright stupidity. The sky of Syria needs to be closed, and closed tightly. You never know what the Jews sing there. The sky must be closed from the blows of the United States and its "coalition" jackal. Moreover, Israel is a faithful watchman of the United States for the Middle East, and all Jewish political tricks, even if in the moment they caress a rumor, is worthless. On the other hand, the transfer of such sophisticated equipment with the training of Assad officers is a task on the verge of fantasy. I hope that the military and political leadership of Russia gives these agreements the same short-term character as the Israelis. And that Israel is not going to abide by this "deal" in the future - this is obvious. Through Kushner and Trump, they have a direct bi-directional communication / control channel.
    1. +9
      8 June 2018 12: 33
      Quote: andrew42
      As for the promises not to transfer “Favorite” s Syriytsvm. It looks like outright stupidity. The sky of Syria needs to be closed, and closed tightly. You never know what the Jews are singing there. I hope that the military and political leadership of Russia gives these agreements the same short-term character as the Israelis. And that Israel is not going to abide by this "deal" in the future - this is obvious. Through Kushner and Trump, they have a direct bi-directional communication / control channel.

      Close. At my own expense. And then let the Syrians not be offended.
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      2. +1
        8 June 2018 23: 10
        And the Jews too
    2. +3
      8 June 2018 15: 41
      Quote: andrew42
      As for the promises not to transfer "Favorite" s syritsvm. Looks like outright nonsense.

      Go to the weapons section. There has recently been a publication about the prospects for the supply of C-300 to Syria and the state of the Syrian air defense.
    3. AIR
      +1
      8 June 2018 16: 53
      The training of the Assad personnel is not fiction. In the USSR, trained personnel of Libya, Syria, Iraq, and so on. master aviation, and ZRV. And a very modern technique at that time. I will say that now in the era of computing, it has become even easier to master this technique. So your assumptions are wrong.
      1. +6
        9 June 2018 03: 29
        Quote: AVIA
        The training of the Assad personnel is not fiction. In the USSR, trained personnel of Libya, Syria, Iraq, and so on. master aviation, and ZRV. And a very modern technique at that time. I will say that now in the era of computing, it has become even easier to master this technique. So your assumptions are wrong.

        The preparation of Azerbaijani calculations before the delivery of C-300PMU2 took about a year, I do not think that Syrians are able to learn faster and faster. No.
        But it's not about training. Where will it come from export ZRS C-300PMU2? From the moment of the conclusion of the contract, before delivery to the customer passes 2-3 of the year. Do you have any information that the contract for the supply of C-300PMU2 to Syria has been concluded and work has begun on the construction of anti-aircraft systems at the Almaz-Antey enterprises? No. So, the statements about the early delivery of C-300 to Syria are not confirmed by Damantsev's fantasies. The fact that this author writes must be treated with great caution, since this is the Russian version of the notorious Mujamara - in his publications, for the most part a mixture of conjectures, fantasies and hotelok.
        1. 0
          9 June 2018 15: 59
          If there will be deliveries to Syria, then most likely the B / Y from the availability (conservation) after repair and modernization.
          PS
          Purely my personal opinion (I do not pretend to the truth).
  9. kig
    +4
    8 June 2018 12: 50
    How does the author know what the ministers agreed on? Was he sitting under the table?
  10. +8
    8 June 2018 13: 29
    Just noticed? Lenses put on the F-35 c 2010 year. They are not there alone, but at once 4 (four) Why would such a gam-tararam happen?
    The picture clearly shows 3 out of four:
    1. +25
      8 June 2018 13: 50
      Especially for experts on invisible aircraft!
      After a number of cases, when the F-35 aircraft were simply lost somewhere in the area of ​​GDP because of the attendants, the manufacturer issued an instruction obliging the pilots immediately after landing, to open the lamp and raise their presence with a raised hand. Immediately after this, the technicians place bright orange plastic conical chips around the aircraft, and in the absence of those, mark the silhouette of the aircraft with chalk on concrete.
      This is what A-35 without Luneberg lenses looks like:

      Passed a little rain and this time, it cost ...
      1. +2
        8 June 2018 18: 45
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Especially for experts on invisible aircraft!
        After a number of cases, when the F-35 aircraft were simply lost somewhere in the area of ​​GDP because of the attendants, the manufacturer issued an instruction obliging the pilots immediately after landing, to open the lamp and raise their presence with a raised hand. Immediately after this, the technicians place bright orange plastic conical chips around the aircraft, and in the absence of those, mark the silhouette of the aircraft with chalk on concrete.
        This is what A-35 without Luneberg lenses looks like:

        Passed a little rain and this time, it cost ...

        Judging by the photo, the rain came from under the glider of the plane. wink
        1. +1
          9 June 2018 02: 47
          And the silhouette from su57
      2. +1
        9 June 2018 09: 29
        This is what A-35 without Luneberg lenses looks like:

        Depicting a pilot, a balancer from which circus, from ours or from abroad, naturally performs like that. love
    2. 0
      9 June 2018 16: 20
      It looks like the A-35
      ... Direct reservation on Freud. Here is "A-35" and it was necessary to call this creation of a star-hairy "genius", well, in extreme cases - "F / A-35" (for version "35C"). On the "F-35" he does not pull well.
  11. +6
    8 June 2018 13: 43
    Another nonsense, as well as any other article by this author.
  12. +6
    8 June 2018 14: 26
    Quote: Dead Day
    ah Damantsev ... surprised. otherwise everything is bad in the army, everything is wrong (they have better). switched to positive. the puncture with “lenses” is certainly interesting, but I’m sure now “our former people” will easily explain this “cant”. Yes

    - There definitely are their fairings (most likely fiberglass, radiolucent). But is there a lens under them - a baaaalsh question! ..
    Here on the F-22, or on the J-20 - it’s immediately clear: there is a block, or removed. There are tons of photos and videos like "с"and so"without".
    And on the F-35, absolutely nothing is clear. winked
    In general, I have never seen a picture or video of the F-35, where these four "swelling" would be absent - maybe someone similar picture or video caught my eye - share it ?!
    1. 0
      8 June 2018 18: 00
      There was a photograph, in my opinion, at The Aviationist, at an air base in Japan. The article noted that at that time it was the first and only photograph of an airplane without lenses.
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  14. +4
    8 June 2018 14: 37
    The author in the text tied practically incoherent things into one thing - started for contracts, continued for centrifuges, and ended with Adirami ... As a result, the article makes some very strange impression
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    1. +1
      8 June 2018 17: 04
      Quote: Outsider
      - And the EPR in the decimeter range is only 2-3 times larger (the detection range will increase to the fourth degree root of these values, 1.2-1.3 times), in the meter ("Sky", etc.) - 8-10 times, t .e. detection range will increase 1.7-1.8 times.

      yes, don’t flatter yourself ... besides the intensity of the reflected signal, the characteristics of the receiver are also important, and the sensitivity at different frequencies seems to be a little different .. lol

      Quote: Outsider
      There are also surface wave radars, with them there are still many ambiguities ...

      And there is ROFAR, they don’t care at all about stealth, but with them there are even more uncertainties ....
      And there is also a passive detection radar, they do not depend on stealth ...
      And there are also technologies for analyzing reflected signals from other sources ...
      I’m saying that apart from scrap, every wunderwafel has its own tactics. I think that intelligence and Special Design Bureau have long studied everything (the benefit of samples and intelligence was abundant) in order to argue reasonably about the possibility of detecting stealth machines .. hi
  16. +5
    8 June 2018 14: 46
    Quote: Jerk
    Ali Akbar, Head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, notified the IAEA of the start of the process of increasing enrichment rates uranium, as well as the launch of capacities for the production of new centrifuges in Natanz.

    So. Those who are not in the subject. How many uranium bombs and explosions in human history ?! As far as I remember - one thing, Baby! And all because an incredible amount of uranium is required, there are simply NO deposits on this planet on Earth now, it was one, it was scraped to the bottom in the 45th USA!
    All nuclear weapons are in plutonium, and uranium centrifuges are not suitable for it. Anyway, plutonium is not obtained in centrifuges, although then they will also be used. So all attempts to sew Iran with nuclear weapons in SUCH centrifuges are nonsense.

    - Harmony, in TVELs of nuclear power plants, from which plutonium is then obtained - is there really unless U238 ?? Isn't enriched uranium used there ?! fool So, uranium is needed, it is mined and enriched.
    And the fact that there was only one mine on earth where uranium was mined and the Americans scraped everything out there - this is "bullshit" ... What does it have to do with very stupid bullshit.
  17. +1
    8 June 2018 15: 03
    Of course, the Iranians and Syrians are useless allies, but the Jews, in my opinion - are even worse. And unfortunately, it will not work out to close the sky from the Jews .... I have to agree .... I hope only for now ... I have to ...
  18. +7
    8 June 2018 15: 04
    In front of the left pillar of the tail of the tail (stabilizer) you can see ...

    fool Brain explosion! It was necessary to “put it this way”! Left Front - Applies to the chassis. "Vertical tail" - this is the keel! And the stabilizer is "horizontal tail".
  19. +4
    8 June 2018 15: 24
    Here is the F-35 on the Red Flag: as you can see, in a combat configuration - no lenses.
    http://www.globalaviationresource.com/v2/2016/08/
    09 / military-exercise-red-flag-16-3 /
    And this picture, where the F-35 with lenses cuts over Beirut - 99.99999% - photoshop. And not one simple-minded Damantsev came across him ...
    https://baomoi-photo-1-td.zadn.vn/w1000_r1/18/05/
    25/139/26167367/1_107462.jpg
  20. +6
    8 June 2018 15: 38
    in exchange, Tel Aviv received a bonus in the form of stopping the transfer of anti-aircraft missile systems to Syrian air defense forces C-300PMU-2 "Favorite"

    Eugene writes such nonsense in almost every article. fool Literally the other day in the armament section there was a publication in which the prospects for the supply of C-300 to Syria were chewed.
    C-300PMU-2 is a purely export modification, they are not in the Russian armed forces, and the contract for manufacturing is not concluded. Offset frank nonsense to write? negative
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  22. 0
    8 June 2018 17: 33
    And again, everything is old ... You see, the theory and practice of radar is well-known not only in the USA and Israel, and the truth in the dispute is stealth / not stealth, as always, somewhere in the middle.
  23. +3
    8 June 2018 18: 49
    And finally, the main disadvantage of stealth stems from its merits. A small EPR is achieved not only by passive methods (absorbing coatings) and reflection to the sides, but also by interference from a combination of projection surfaces. Therefore, very low visibility in certain ranges is achieved in a targeted way in the frontal projection, and it is necessary to slightly change the angle (course) - and the carriage turns into a pumpkin. Therefore, the F-117 has such an angular shape (the level of technology then did not allow to implement the F-35 contours).
    An approximate analogy is booking a tank mainly in the frontal projection. Therefore, the tactics of using stealth is a successful attack from the first call. After the turn, it will shine in all ranges. Therefore, the wet dreams of some Israeli comrades about his all-range and all-angle stealth have nothing to do with reality.
  24. +1
    8 June 2018 19: 42
    It is quite obvious that Russia in the Syrian campaign seeks to restore the status quo that existed before Syria was destabilized, i.e. in order for this country to restore its borders, restore its economy and infrastructure and fulfill the role of an outpost of Russia in the Middle East. No large-scale regional conflict, fraught with the mutual destruction of Iran and Israel, is not included in Russia's plans. While such a scenario is not ruled out for Washington, it is interested in having as many regional conflicts in the world as possible. This extends the status of the dollar as the world's reserve currency, and US treasuries remain the main "safe haven" for capital from around the world, and in the current situation it is critically important for the United States. Jews can be blamed for anything, but not in the absence of a “reason” and the ability to analyze. Therefore, they come to an agreement with the force that is ready to take into account their interests and perceives them as partners, and not as a tool for realizing their own geopolitical interests.
  25. 0
    9 June 2018 11: 23
    To the author Study the performance characteristics more thoroughly: "The boundaries of the affected area, km
    - distant (aerodynamic target) 75
    - long-range (BRMD) 25 (Short-range ballistic missiles)" http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/c300ps/
    c300ps.shtml Let's check the performance characteristics of the calculation of 75 km target front-line fighter bomber from square meter to (1 ... 15) square meters, we use the radar formula and obtain the EPR estimate for the BRDM EPR formula BRDM = EPR of the aerodynamic target / 81 = 0.012 square meter for of our SU57 epr was estimated to be 0.3 meters square. This is not the most important thing: fighters to a bomber flying at extremely low altitude do not have to enter the 75 km zone if there is a cruise missile like our X31 on board and if you carry out an attack with several aircraft at extremely low altitudes, the result for the C300 It will be right now (This tactic was tested by Argentina in the Falklands) It’s quite possible to conduct reconnaissance with the F35 without hanging tanks and without entering the 25 km zone
    1. 0
      12 June 2018 13: 38
      At extremely low altitude, the range of missiles like the X-31 is also extremely small.
  26. 0
    9 June 2018 18: 36
    Quote: V. Salama
    Why is the yield of plutonium scanty? Because the resulting plutonium is used to ensure the criticality of the reactor during fuel burnup and maintain its reactivity? In this case, yes, miserable. But what, it is impossible to find a technical solution if the scientific problem on this issue was solved in the 40s of the last century? By the way, to solve it, they began to build reactors. In Iran, what do American inspectors snoop where they want and when they want, like ours in the 90s? In the end, people will decide everything, it will depend on the scientific potential, although here, we will not say who, we also tried hard. If this were so impossible, then what was the US and Israel so worried about?

    So Israel bombed this reactor in Iran! And they did not build a new one ...
  27. 0
    9 June 2018 18: 37
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Just noticed? Lenses put on the F-35 c 2010 year. They are not there alone, but at once 4 (four) Why would such a gam-tararam happen?
    The picture clearly shows 3 out of four:

    And from the fact that the Israeli pilot said after the flight that he was not seen at all by the S-300 air defense system. And this is supposed to be a complete bullshit, not air defense ...
    1. 0
      12 June 2018 14: 06
      He generally cannot know whether they see him or not, the STR reacts to the capture for escort. And just catch the radiation, it can only be said that it is generally there, or it is not here.
  28. +2
    11 June 2018 17: 56
    Damantsev, that you sculpt this F-35 picture everywhere, we don’t have such a F-35 coloring. tongue
  29. +1
    12 June 2018 13: 36
    Lenses set during any non-combat flights, just so that the dispatchers saw.
  30. 0
    13 June 2018 18: 14
    I don’t understand anything.
  31. +1
    16 June 2018 17: 07
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Especially for experts on invisible aircraft!

    Latvia does not surpass

    Although the title photo in the video refutes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2M4463FC6c
    Attention - a lot of mat
  32. 0
    23 June 2018 03: 33
    Bullshit, devoid of the slightest sense, except for one thing: the author of the delirium has demonstrated that he does not like eurrev. Fly on a stealth aircraft artificially increasing its visibility? Something is wrong with the author’s eyes. And what's the puncture, if, according to him, visibility was deliberately increased by the installation of these lenses. Adir that without these lenses can not fly?
  33. 0
    23 June 2018 10: 37
    Everyone knows the proverb about "technology in the hands ..." (substitute the necessary). And up to now, “self-running cars” are called Shaitan-arba. They are controlled in the same way as donkeys and camels. Those who have their own heads have not the fact that they are dumber than their "drivers". According to the stepfather (military adviser in Syria since the times of the Union), it is enough to look at the state of the AK Guard (!!!) of Pope Assad. Since then, not much has changed.
    - "(Russian trainer instructor) You mastered the reverse gear! Now we switch the demultiplier and turn on the first forward gear! -
    - (Syrian cadet) Uh, listen, dear! Why do we need forward go? -
    - And this is in case Israelis will come from the rear! -
    At the Navy DOSAAF (VUS courses) in 1978, Vladivostok, a teacher showed how to work behind the C125 guidance panel. "Combine the mark" will meet the norm. Of course, much has been forgotten from memory. All of these twists - helmsmen are designed for a certain three-armed mutant. Therefore, anti-aircraft gunners had specific "mushrooms" (chubby). Just the helm "snapped" into the mode of auto tracking belly, because the hands are busy. That's how a virtuoso pianist plays, the same goes for an advanced rocket player. Yes, along the way, analyzing several parameters and giving the TS. For this brain must have. Knowhow it all works and choose the best option for the mission. No offense, objectively - donkey breeders in principle, they’re not capable of this.
    That is why in the IG even auto mechanics, not to mention techies - engineers, were valued and valued almost worth their weight in gold. For which they quietly hate. There is no need to go far for evidence - our former "fraternal" Central Asian republics. The same mentality and religion.
    With the Persians, everything is much more complicated. Purebred Persians are blue-eyed brown-haired or red. The real gene pool and mentality of the ethnic group. On which everything rests, in fact. But who thinks about it or in general know? The same is true for Russia. Not yet. They are actively working on the "correction of misunderstanding".
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