Fifty missiles to defeat Russia

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How many rockets are needed to defeat Russia? The answer to the question may seem astounding and shocking. It seems that about fifty. And not ballistic with nuclear charges, but conventional cruise missiles, RGM / UGM-109D Block III and RGM / UGM-109E Block IV, modern modifications of the American cruise missile Tomahawk. One destroyer of the Arleigh Burke type (which can carry Tomahawk missiles up to 50) is quite enough to achieve victory over Russia in favorable conditions. How is this possible?


Such a ship could crush Russia. In the photo, USS Farragut (DDG-99), the destroyer of the class Arleigh Burke, carrying the 96 standard launch cells; according to some reports, carries to 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles




In military economic analysis, as well as in general in preparation for a serious war, it is very important to develop the ability to anticipate the actions of a potential enemy, to determine how the enemy can most effectively achieve his goals in a probable war.

It is known that our most likely adversary, in this case the United States and NATO, relied on high-precision weaponrepresented mainly by cruise missiles. In all the wars that have been waged by the United States since the “Storm in the Desert” (the war against Iraq in 1991), cruise missiles occupied a prominent place among the enemy's means of destruction, especially in the first stage of hostilities. Actually, Tomahawk Block III is a product of the modification of missiles, conducted on the basis of the experience of the Iraq war. The operations used hundreds of missiles: “Fox in the desert” (17-19 December 1998 raid on Iraq) - 415 missiles, Yugoslavia - about 700 missiles (including about 30% for administrative and industrial facilities), operation in Afghanistan in 2001 year - about 600 missiles, war in Iraq, 2003 of the year - about 700 missiles, operation in Libya in 2012 year - 112 missiles. That is, the forecast for a possible war involves the massive use of cruise missiles, mainly sea-based.

From the analysis of the experience of the application it followed that to hit a large industrial object it would take quite a lot of hits, from 6 to 10 and more. By virtue of what, a largely complacent conclusion was made: if the destruction of the infrastructure of even rather underdeveloped countries such as Iraq or Afghanistan required hundreds of cruise missiles, then Russia would have to need thousands, which clearly goes beyond the capabilities of even the US military budget. Indeed, only large power plants with a capacity of more than 5 MW in Russia are more than 600, and the length of transmission lines is 450 thousands of kilometers.

Meanwhile, the industrial and especially the energy system of the countries with which the United States has managed to fight for over the past 25 over the years, was significantly different from the Russian. She was not centralized to such a high degree as in the USSR (and Russia that inherited it). For example, the power industry of Yugoslavia at the time of the bombing was based on brown coal (the country's largest power complex Nikola Tesla in Obrenovac, in 40 km from Belgrade) and in hydroelectric power plants, among which the HPP “1” on the Danube was particularly distinguished. In Yugoslavia, power plants were built in every major city, taking into account the availability of energy resources, and therefore the Serbian power transmission system was rather poorly developed. The Americans therefore had to strike at each power plant in order to disable the country's power system.

In Russia, there is not only the Unified Energy System, which connects all the major power plants into a single network, but also the vast majority of the power industry has an even more centralized supply of fuel - natural gas.

In 2016, 457 billion cubic meters of gas was consumed domestically, of which 156 billion cubic meters was spent on electricity generation, 130 billion cubic meters in industry, and 87 billion cubic meters by boilers and the public. Natural gas acts not only as a fuel, but also as a raw material, in particular, for the production of such an important military material as nitric acid (all 10 factories in Russia that produce nitric acid are produced from ammonia, in turn, produced from natural gas). In the power industry, the share of gas in 2016 was 72,6% throughout the country, and it is gradually increasing. Only in Siberia, where there is a surplus of coal, the picture is reversed: 85,6% of fuel in the electric power industry falls on coal.

By and large, 4 / 5 industry, transport and urban economy in Russia depends on natural gas. Which is produced mainly in one place, on Yamal, and is transmitted through the system of gas pipelines to consumers and for export.


Map of gas pipelines in Russia. The most vulnerable points of the gas transmission system are circled in red circles: the Yamal “cross” (above), the node near Ukhta and the node at Aleksandrov-Guy (below)


One glance at the map of Russia's gas pipelines is enough to understand how vulnerable this industry is, which is key for the country as a whole and for defense in particular. It is enough to smash the main gas pipelines literally in three places in order to almost completely cut off the European part of Russia, where the bulk of the population and the bulk of industry, including the military, are located, from gas. And, as a result, from electricity, from heat, from raw materials.

Moreover, it is worth noting that on the map of gas pipelines there is a place where 17 large gas pipelines intersect at once. The place is known as the "cross." It is located on the bank of the Pravaya Khetta River, not far from the village of Pangoda, and indeed from the satellite looks like two crosses, painted directly on the tundra.

Fifty missiles to defeat Russia
Yamal "cross" from space. No comments


It is very difficult to find an explanation for such a sabotage solution. Nothing prevented the pipelines from spreading over the tundra, placing them away from each other. If the enemy would cut one string, the others would remain whole. And in general, the dispersed system of gas pipelines is more difficult to destroy and easier to repair. But here something unimaginable was done. I can only push such an explanation to this strange fact. Since the “cross” of gas pipelines was built in the Soviet years, this could only be the case if the Soviet leadership, starting with L.I. Brezhnev was firmly, absolutely and adamantly convinced that there would be no war, there was no threat to this most vulnerable spot in the Soviet gas pipeline system.

Gas pipelines cannot be camouflaged; they are perfectly visible on satellite and aerial photographs, mainly because all trees and bushes in the right of way under gas pipelines are cut down for security purposes. And in general, the entire gas and gas transportation infrastructure is perfectly visible from the air: wells, gas compressor stations, gas pipelines, underground gas storages.


Not to be unfounded. Novoarzamas gas compressor station near Nizhny Novgorod. An object perfectly visible from the satellite and extremely vulnerable even to hit one cruise missile ...



Kasimov underground gas storage between Vladimir and Ryazan, south-east of Moscow, in 12 billion cubic meters of gas. By visibility and vulnerability is no different from the gas compressor station. If it is attacked by rockets, it will burn for a long time.


There is no doubt that the Americans have a comprehensive database with the exact coordinates of each such facility of the Russian gas industry. If they ever planned to strike at the gas industry, then the Yamal “cross”, of course, occupied the most honorable place in them. Still, with one blow, cut off 85% natural gas production!

Tomahawk is quite able to cope with the pipeline, since the modifications of Block III and Block IV are equipped with a warhead of WVU-36 / B with a charge of 340 kg of explosives. The explosion of the warhead should only break the pipeline tightness and strike a spark, and then the rest of the gas under pressure in the 54 atmosphere will do the rest. The force of the explosion is such that it pulls out and throws tens of meters of a steel pipe of a large diameter in the direction and creates a large funnel, above which a column of burning gas appears.


The result of the explosion of the gas pipeline near the town of Komenki, near Poznan, in Poland. Photo chosen because it is particularly clearly visible all the consequences of a gas pipeline explosion


It seems that the consequences of a missile strike on gas pipelines are more or less clear. The loss of 85% gas will lead to the shutdown of most of the power plants, to the cessation of the supply of electricity and heat to residential buildings, to a sharp reduction in the operation of railways. Electricity will remain only to the most edge, only for the most important objects and the most urgent needs. If the blow occurs in the winter, in extreme cold, the damage will be much greater than from nuclear bombing.

Now the whole question is what to do in this case. If a weak spot is found, then you need to cover it with something. There are several options available. First, the option is fast and not very reliable: covering the gas pipeline system with air defense systems. The Yamal “cross” can be covered with several C-400 complexes. But still there remains the likelihood of a massive attack with preliminary suppression of air defense, the likelihood of two or three waves of rocket attacks, so that one of them achieves the effect. Nevertheless, the benefit from the destruction of the Yamal “cross” fully justifies the consumption even of 200-300 cruise missiles in this place. And yet, the probable enemy has other options: to destroy gas wells or to undertake the destruction of gas compressor stations, without which it is impossible to transfer gas from Siberia. You can also hit on any part of the pipeline. It is obvious that air defense systems cover is not a solution at all. The system of gas pipelines is so long, and there are so many vulnerable objects on it that there are not enough existing air defense systems to ensure their reliable protection. Air defense it is advisable to cover the crossings of gas pipelines, distribution nodes, in order to deprive the enemy of the ability to immediately disable large segments of the gas pipeline system.

Secondly, it is possible to create an auxiliary system that will provide the existing system with combustible gas even in the case of the complete absence of Yamal gas. These can be rather large gas generators that will turn all kinds of things into combustible gas, everything that burns: coal, peat, wood, household garbage (dumps in this sense become strategic objects). Generator gas is noticeably worse than natural gas, but it will, however, allow holding on the minimum consumption the time that is necessary for the restoration of gas pipelines and the resumption of gas supply.

Thirdly, to somewhat deviate from the practice of centralized generation of electricity and set the task for each settlement and a more or less large plant to have its own source of energy (heat and electricity) for local resources, covering the most minimal needs. These can be small hydroelectric power stations, thermal power plants and boiler houses using local fuel or waste, or wind generators combined into wind farms.

From the point of view of the extreme vulnerability of centralized systems to a massive missile strike, the methods of dispersed production of military-significant raw materials, materials and military products become very interesting from a military economic point of view. The experience of the warrior in Germany shows: to destroy such a dispersed military industry, even in a very small area, requires an incredible number of bombs. If you carry out this business with the Russian scope and disperse the military industry across the Russian expanses, moving a large part to Siberia (where there are both local raw materials and local energy resources), then the Americans simply will not have enough cruise missiles and bombs to destroy it.
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  1. +13
    5 June 2018 05: 04
    In general, yes. Destroying the infrastructure is not such a problem. And if you take into account the winter factor, then to destroy the city it is enough to de-energize for 3 days. And the entire population can be completely relocated. Or Ales Kaput.
    1. +8
      5 June 2018 05: 28
      Well now in online stores demand for "potbelly stoves" will grow smile
      1. +62
        5 June 2018 05: 35
        Fifty missiles to defeat Russia
        the flight of fantasy is endless ... that is, the "otvetka" of Russia is not taken into account at all? or do our ICBMs fly on gas? theoretically, Russia can destroy all the USA ...
        1. +42
          5 June 2018 05: 48
          And Europe without gas, there is nothing to bomb there, just the old woman will be bent.
          1. +10
            5 June 2018 15: 02
            How many missiles do you need to defeat Russia? The answer to the question may seem stunning and shocking. It seems that about fifty. And not ballistic with nuclear charges, but conventional cruise missiles, RGM / UGM-109D Block III and RGM / UGM-109E Block IV, modern modifications of the American Tomahawk cruise missile.



            Now, someone count how many Poseidons are needed to defeat America.

            I think it will be needed 10 times less



            1. +21
              5 June 2018 15: 47
              In the USA, the population and industry density is several times higher than here you don’t have to aim too hard anyway. Once when all the capital buildings were designed taking into account possible shelling and the cars were made at the rate of three hours of battle, by the way, now we have a lot of steam locomotives in special parking lots It’s good that we get away from this otherwise we’ll have to sleep embracing Kalash. Following the logic of crosses, you don’t need to build big cities, but suddenly Bonba. The village seems to be less profitable in this regard. We need to be prepared for the war but not put it at the forefront In general, while in Russia there are at least a couple of divisions capable of minus 40 degrees in a clean field, to shit and not freeze, we are invincible
              1. +1
                7 June 2018 15: 38
                ... between us * girls * saying, now there are so many opportunities to make housing in the countryside without power lines - I won’t save .. You can use everything - windmills, thermocouples, solar panels and water pumps in the basement .. On the roof of the greenhouse , in the basement you can grow mushrooms ...
        2. +30
          5 June 2018 06: 33
          Quote: Grandfather is caste
          all USA
          One rocket on Wall Street and all the dollar pipelines will be covered!
          1. +6
            5 June 2018 07: 51
            Wall Street has long been on the Internet, and a place there means nothing
            1. +2
              5 June 2018 12: 42
              So on the Internet!
              1. +5
                5 June 2018 13: 09
                Offer to bomb Voronezh? There is also internet wassat
            2. 0
              6 June 2018 10: 15
              the Internet itself does not work, there are crowded servers !!!! somewhere!!!
            3. +1
              7 June 2018 08: 35
              Red rooster to blue eye pecks (matron)
              So the confrontation will end, apparently communication, the satellites will be cut down and the wheel of $ capital.
              China will be that wise monkey on a tree.
        3. dSK
          +4
          5 June 2018 06: 50
          Quote: Dead Day
          theoretically, Russia can destroy all the USA ...

          Unfortunately, over the past hundred years, the enemy has always "shot" first. One hope that he will not dare to do this in the winter, In the States there are also severe frosts and all major military "operations" begin in the summer.
          1. +14
            5 June 2018 07: 04
            Quote from dsk
            over the last hundred years ...

            ... an SPRN has never been used, for example.
            In the case of a serious kneading - there will be no “first” one now, and if there is such a well-made one - it will run into the reciprocal-oncoming ... well, you understand.
            All IMHO, essno. All scouts will attack and begin pull the button accordion talk about "what Brzezinski said" laughing
            1. +3
              5 June 2018 07: 10
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Scha run all the scouts and begin to pull the button accordion to talk about "what Brzezinski said"

              Already. I ran it. And what is the SPRN? recourse
              1. +8
                5 June 2018 07: 31
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And what is SPRN

                For example:

                I have here just one such wallow request
                1. +4
                  5 June 2018 07: 36
                  Ahhh! There she is! And I thought that this is a dead hand ...
                  1. +5
                    5 June 2018 07: 49
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    And I thought that this is a dead hand ...

                    Not ... "hand" is already, ahem, the next stage.
                    Yes, and whether it is, or not - I do not know for certain.
                    And to the toy depicted in the video, I’m less than an hour away, And on googlemap it can be seen perfectly well. So this one is definitely there.
                    1. +1
                      5 June 2018 14: 31
                      "hand" is already, ahem, the next stage

                      Good afternoon!!!! I apologize, I think that the "Perimeter" is not the next hell, but the last stage .... the very last .... and in general to judge by the title of the article ???? I thought about bridges for example .... how many of them are through the same Volga ??? there will be no disaster, but it will definitely cause very big problems ...
                      1. 0
                        6 June 2018 08: 38
                        The latter - explosions of nuclear charges under the largest American cities.
                  2. +4
                    5 June 2018 08: 23
                    The Americans call our system with a dead hand. Our real name is Perimeter
                    1. +2
                      5 June 2018 08: 27
                      There is no certainty that it works. Sensors were all over the Union. Where now?
                      1. +3
                        5 June 2018 09: 32
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        There is no certainty that it works. Sensors were all over the Union. Where now?

                        Did the sensors connect themselves?
                      2. +7
                        5 June 2018 09: 34
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        There is no certainty that it works. Sensors were all over the Union. Where now?

                        To put aside the panic. Everything works as expected. And for what purpose are you interested in? Are you a Cossack? By the way, any attempt to interfere with SPRN stations is regarded as an act of declaration of war. And such a station lives at the start of hostilities for about half an hour, such is the fate of sentinel towers.
                      3. +2
                        5 June 2018 15: 10
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        There is no certainty that it works.

                        And why should she work? How will she defend the command and other beautiful words, if they have dug in for a long time in a territory occupied by a probable enemy. The probable enemy is struggling with them of the last forces, won’t give Abramovich a visa ... Skripale poisons, but doesn’t take them. British scientists can’t understand why a beginner doesn’t take violins? And they are frail against the colonels from the GRU, even once betrayed.
                      4. +4
                        5 June 2018 15: 21
                        She works, she works. Restored. In addition, none of the * exploitation * even deduced its main part, it is physically impossible.
        4. +22
          5 June 2018 09: 42
          The author seems to be zhzhot? But where did he intend to strike at these points? From Estonia to the Lower about 2000 km, from Norway to Litke Bay, the same number, the Americans did not manage to destroy the same airfield from Syria with the same number of missiles from 500 km from Syria, the primary goals for such an air defense and missile defense strike, launching nuclear missiles and not a hypothetical desire leave half the country without gas! Bullshit".
          1. +4
            5 June 2018 11: 54
            You have a little geography. From the Gulf of Riga to the Lower - 1220 km.
            1. +10
              5 June 2018 15: 52
              Quote: 73bor
              The author seems to be zhzhot? But where did he intend to strike at these points? From Estonia to the Lower about 2000 km, from Norway to Litke Bay, the same number, the Americans did not manage to destroy the same airfield from Syria with the same number of missiles from 500 km from Syria, the primary goals for such an air defense and missile defense strike, launching nuclear missiles and not a hypothetical desire leave half the country without gas! Bullshit".

              Quote: wehr
              You have a little geography. From the Gulf of Riga to the Lower - 1220 km.

              I still support Boris, despite some overestimation of distances. Cruise missiles to destroy the infrastructure facilities specified in the article must fly through the entire European part in the event of an attack from the Black / Baltic Sea or across the North in the event of an attack from Norway. Of course, they can come closer to the north, only they will have no chance - all these ships from the Kyrgyz Republic are carefully monitored and accompanied, as soon as they get closer to our shores. They will not be able to destroy the carriers of the Kyrgyz Republic in the sea before launch, or the Kyrgyz Republic themselves to the coast - even the aircraft can be raised in time - to fly the Kyrgyz Republic how far. Our distances and our air defense are killing the possibility of the effective use of anti-missile defense against infrastructure.
              And the United States itself is extremely vulnerable in this regard. In 2003, the entire northeastern United States and part of Canada were left without energy - and without any missiles. Similar accidents occurred in 1965 and 1977. And if you add a few more missiles? feel Moreover, not necessarily winged! wink
              The author considers single strikes without analyzing the whole situation. But even single strikes on critical infrastructure will lead to a global nuclear response - and our opponents are well aware of this. hi
              1. +4
                5 June 2018 21: 49
                The whole article is nonsense in "the very statement of the problem" !! The author postulates that “a non-nuclear strike”, and now “take off the pink glasses” and what we get in reality, but there’s going to be a little note - yes, all carriers of such missiles are being tracked when approaching our borders and there can be no “sudden attack”, launch and the number of vomit will be detected and counted, after that, “on the baton” the information comes “to the Main” and now He’s thinking “should we wait until these missiles reach somewhere and only then think what and whether to retaliate or we can don't be this Then "? you mean 50 missiles is a lot, at least it's 50 nuclear blocks of 230 kilotons each, it's a lot of millions of victims and waiting is not an option !! Personally, I (and I hope the Chief) will not wait either and will immediately give the order "erase the USA from the map." good Yes, perhaps this will provoke the United States to retaliate with not 50 missiles, but the Chief, in fact, has no choice. So - the Chief has no options and the mattresses have no options either, in fact almost any attack on Russia is the third world nuclear one.
              2. 0
                9 June 2018 13: 39
                Quote: andj61
                North in case of impact from Norway. Of course, they can come closer to the north, only they will have no chance - all these ships from the Kyrgyz Republic are carefully monitored and accompanied, as soon as they get closer to our shores.

                Submarines will be able to approach from the side of the Arctic Ocean (SSGN. Converted class "Ohio"). It will be much closer than Norway. To the same Yamal cross, a very short distance. Therefore, we are now strengthening our north.
          2. 0
            5 June 2018 22: 11
            They will make 10 X 37 spaceships as hidden bombers - 30 W87 warheads will fit into them - a quick unexpected strike from orbit on: Moscow, Peter the largest hydroelectric power station, SPRN radar, gas pipelines, nuclear submarine bases - and then hello.
            1. +1
              5 June 2018 23: 41
              Really do 10 already ?!
              But in reality, even a couple of shuttles instead of crashed and riveted :-)))
              PS
              And if pindocs also build the Death Star and apply ...
              Well, tady are definitely khan :-)))
              1. 0
                6 June 2018 00: 39
                For them, even 100 such spaceships will not be a problem - just give money.
                1. +1
                  6 June 2018 12: 28
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  For them, even 100 such spaceships will not be a problem - just give money.

                  But what happened with the shuttles? The program was closed due to excessive operating costs. But the shuttle is not a combat spaceship at all.
                  Next - how will they prepare this “sudden” blow? A few spaceships will start - and they will immediately be brought down: it’s simply impossible to allow such crap to fly over you. But in advance, it will not be possible to put it into orbit slowly - even the shuttle could be in space for only a few weeks. For such cases, you need to create something on the basis of the Chelomeev’s Almaz program, but in a combat attacking version. Even now, it will not be so secret as in the USSR. So this option will not work. hi
                  1. 0
                    6 June 2018 21: 40
                    X 37 recently set a record for arriving in orbit for 716 days, if it flies at altitudes above 200, there will be nothing to bring it down.
                    1. 0
                      7 June 2018 06: 38
                      Ordinary missile defense, they have existed for decades ...
                    2. 0
                      7 June 2018 08: 52
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      X 37 recently set a record for arriving in orbit for 716 days, if it flies at altitudes above 200, there will be nothing to bring it down.

                      X-37V is not imprisoned for something, it will not be able to carry a real combat load. His goals are reconnaissance, tracking, and, possibly, the destruction of enemy spacecraft. Well, the launch of small satellites into orbit. The payload is a maximum of 900 kg. The dimensions of the cargo compartment will not allow to place even more or less decent ammunition. Using it as a space attack aircraft is pointless — any strategic ballistic missile can cope with such a task an order of magnitude more efficiently and two orders of magnitude cheaper. hi
                    3. 0
                      7 June 2018 13: 52
                      How not what? Another shuttle. Or a random peaceful companion. See the first collision of artificial satellites.
        5. +9
          5 June 2018 14: 35
          here it is worth considering that in addition to coal-fired power plants, we have a ton of others. Take here our Siberian city - Krasnoyarsk, they have long wanted to transfer us to gas (because it is more environmentally friendly than coal), but they have promised it to us for twenty years already. And in addition to coal stations, we have both our own hydroelectric power station at hand, and the Sayano-Shushenskaya close by, and Boguchanskaya seems to have already been commissioned. In addition, there are nuclear power plants, which are quite enough for the basic needs of cities. The author should take into account at least these factors, and you are about the answer :) We will answer, we will answer all. And the enemies will be responsible for everything, only to panic less, and talk more. And so you are right, in theory everything is possible, but practice ... But your comment to the author on the case, good :)
        6. +8
          5 June 2018 14: 48
          Well then!
          We sit, then, and watch on TV how our gas pipelines are being destroyed.
          Then we dress warmer and go to the forest for firewood.
          And where is the Strategic Missile Forces? On holiday?
          Who knows what's in the head of a cruise missile? TNT or a nuclear warhead?
          On the other hand, American politicians and generals are sitting and thinking - but if the “Cross" is flopped, will the Russians answer with a hundred other megatons or not? And let's run one “Tomahawk” and see.
          What is this with the author?
          Itchy tongue and scabies?
          1. +1
            6 June 2018 08: 46
            It just works.
        7. +2
          5 June 2018 16: 06
          The answer to what? The fact that the heat and energy supply of our country will rise, and (of course) in the winter? Power plants have reserve tanks with fuel oil, but they will last for a few days. There will simply be no way to whether we won the United States or not. Big cities will give such mortality that breathtaking.
          Small cities are also very gasified, so there won’t be any fun either, but you can even run into the forest there, chop wood, put the stove down quickly. So what is next? Even if we win (fortunately, maybe not), the stake that arose in the winter industry will be very broken by frost.
          1. +2
            5 June 2018 21: 51
            A screwdriver for Launch, since these are not ballistic missiles - it is IMPOSSIBLE to understand and predict the target, which means it can be a "disarming nuclear strike" and Wait until the missiles fall and "happily breathe out that they are not nuclear" no one will !!!
          2. +1
            6 June 2018 23: 52
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Power plants have reserve tanks with fuel oil, but they will last for a few days.

            These days, they will restore everything: both gas pipelines and pumping stations.
        8. +8
          5 June 2018 16: 41
          Yes, there’s not even a fantasy, but complete stupidity.
          Arly Burke alone will destroy Russia!
          Why not a hundred grams of dynamite? The pipeline blows up - and the whole country without gas, light and sewage!
          But who will let you put this dynamite! But who will let Arliberk shoot back in Russia!
          Everything must be considered in COMPLEX.
          And so theoretically it is possible to blow up the globe with one match. hi
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        10. +1
          5 June 2018 17: 13
          When hit by tomahawks with a non-nuclear warhead, can Russia really deliver an ICBM strike on US territory under the current doctrine
          1. 0
            6 June 2018 01: 16
            Can. The blow to our land is a declaration of war by the United States. The answer will be comprehensive and immediate. Large cities on the east and west coast of the United States will be destroyed.
          2. 0
            9 June 2018 23: 23
            And on the missiles, I apologize, will it be written that they are not with nuclear b / h? Who will wait for this?
        11. +1
          5 June 2018 18: 24
          the main thing is that everyone flies, but whether this is the question
        12. +4
          5 June 2018 19: 22
          In addition to the gas pipeline, there are armed forces with autonomous power. There are factories that make weapons and equipment for repairing gas pipelines, including, and all this, taking into account the air defense, will calmly bear the blow and 500 missiles. But the author of the article for some reason doesn’t take into account whether the US air defense will capture 500 warheads flying to them in the USA.
          1. +1
            5 June 2018 20: 37
            Do not intercept. The maximum can intercept ... 5-10 pieces
        13. +3
          5 June 2018 21: 36
          I support - well, the smart USA launches 50 missiles and destroys all of Russia's energy. "" AND WHAT? " that is, these morons think "well, since the energy industry has been destroyed and it’s not before the war, then it is necessary to save the country then-ohh - Russia will surrender"? am am When teaching the history of mankind, these lessons are not taught at all, or is it they have a special "American" there, where did they defeat Napoleon, and on their territory?
          That is, "oh well, they won’t beat us with nuclear missiles for such a prank," forgive me, but Mankind should somehow gather separately and resolve "as if to quickly and guaranteedly lock Americans in their territory and not let them out, out of sin away "!!
    2. +10
      5 June 2018 05: 52
      The ammunition of one destroyer like Arleigh Burke (which can carry up to 50 Tomahawk missiles) is enough to achieve victory over Russia in favorable conditions.

      Yeah, after reading this work, I realized one thing, you need to wrap yourself in a sheet and slowly crawl into the cemetery. laughing Schazz
      1. +18
        5 June 2018 06: 15
        hi Particularly impressionable heart breaks are provided immediately after reading the article. The story of how to crush a bug with a foot so that it does not crawl to the house. smile
    3. +6
      5 June 2018 08: 17
      I saw how in the 90 years the city froze 40 thousand! no one died in three days! I studied at the school then!
      1. +1
        5 June 2018 08: 24
        Quote: Silver Fox
        I saw how in the 90 years the city froze 40 thousand! no one died in three days! I studied at the school then!

        I can tell you even more passion. I live on the border with the Moscow region. So here. In May, the 86th year, rains and foam fell on us. All May rained down. And in Moscow at that time only three times it rained, on the 20th.
      2. +1
        5 June 2018 15: 20
        Quote: Silver Fox
        I saw how in the 90 years they froze the city of 40 thousand

        And in the 2000s, I went to the Donbass mother-in-law to save. Their heating was not turned on so that mos.kali did not turn brown.
    4. +10
      5 June 2018 09: 41
      Yes, yes, Leningrad for three days and all.
    5. +10
      5 June 2018 12: 33
      And where will they shoot from the Yamal bush? And if you take all the hydraulic fracturing in Siberia, all the more so at that distance only products (ballistic) can fly. Therefore, the article is complete nonsense. there are nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations, as well as state district power stations (on brown coal). And do not forget about diesel power plants (DES) which are full near every serious institution (in our yard there is a power station-250) and when it is turned off, it starts up automatically. All hospitals are equipped with them and HF, Ministry of Emergencies, etc. And in people at the dachas, wood-fired boilers and mini-diesels. Thermal power plants operate on coal and fuel oil.
    6. 0
      7 June 2018 23: 41
      good day! I have a question if there was at least one case in Syria that our VKS killed the Americans (I read a lot on the Internet and on foreign sites, but I don’t really believe it)?
  2. +15
    5 June 2018 05: 07
    What kind of analytics it is. This is in the OPINION category.
    1. +5
      5 June 2018 05: 30
      Exactly, the obvious is about the probable. Only for this amers can be leveled with water and land.
    2. +16
      5 June 2018 10: 45
      What is this opinion. This is Humor, you can repost it on a medical resource tm then it will fall into the Schizophrenic delirium section.

      Such a blow is 100% casus belli and there will be no distribution of heat and light without options.
      1. +2
        5 June 2018 19: 24
        Quote: morved
        ... and there will be no distribution of heat and light without options.

        Heat and light of atomic warheads ...)))
        1. +1
          6 June 2018 13: 42
          Rather thermonuclear. Well, someone and the Strategic Missile Forces will not miss such a mess.
  3. +8
    5 June 2018 05: 49
    Various iksperds — Estonians, dill, and entot — have blabbed even. Russia, in his opinion, will sit and sniff in two holes - ridiculous.
    1. +5
      5 June 2018 06: 04
      Quote: forester
      Various iksperds — Estonians, dill, and entot — have blabbed even. Russia, in his opinion, will sit and sniff in two holes - ridiculous.

      this topic has been exaggerated more than once, but not so distant, they do not understand that this is a global war, and there will be no care for gas hubs, as for everything.
      1. +4
        5 June 2018 15: 07
        I, too, about too. Putin made it clear that no war like tanks, guns and rackets as NATO represents. The answer will go to Europe in the form of short-range tactical missiles with nuclear warheads, for example, Iskander missiles will fly to the states. That’s all.
    2. +4
      5 June 2018 09: 37
      Quote: forester
      Various iksperds — Estonians, dill, and entot — have blabbed even. Russia, in his opinion, will sit and sniff in two holes - ridiculous.

      We still have canned steam locomotives, so there is still enough wood and coal for them.
      1. +3
        5 June 2018 10: 48
        Already almost none, changed to diesel locomotives. Locomotives are now more like backup mobile boiler houses.
  4. +5
    5 June 2018 06: 26
    Tomahawk is quite able to handle ...
    Author, "glorious" "Tomahawk" still need to fly.
    move away from the practice of centralized electricity generation and set a goal so that each settlement and more or less large plant has its own energy source
    It is time for the post of prime minister, and before that, in Russia they did not calculate all the possible options and did not take measures. Everyone imagines himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side.
    1. +1
      7 June 2018 06: 51
      Our prime minister is an already stupid person; this is still not enough.
  5. +4
    5 June 2018 06: 51
    Why the article? Yes, these missiles may be enough to disrupt the country's vital functions, but what next !? Maybe after such a hypothetical blow, another country (or countries) with a less centralized gas supply will cease to exist?
  6. +6
    5 June 2018 07: 03
    The article is largely delusional; in the Second World War, for alarmism, they would have already shot him. The author did not fully understand the structure of the Russian energy industry and hastened to concoct an article all over. https://minenergo.gov.ru/node/532, as we can see from the structure of Russian electricity generation, hydroelectric power plants account for about 20% of electricity generation, which to a greater extent smooth out daily fluctuations in power consumption, rather than creating the basis of the energy system. By the way, in the USA there is exactly the same problem with gas supply, there are a couple of main nodes that distribute gas throughout the country. But gas consumption and its share in power generation in the United States is much higher than in Russia.
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 19: 31
      I wonder if the Ielstone volcano is on the list of strategic goals? A warhead can go deep into the vent, penetrating, an underground blow will clear the vent, the hell knows how it will end, but personally I would try. With a successful outcome for many centuries, there will be no problems. In fact, this is a variant of the Strait named after Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, but realistically feasible.
      1. +1
        5 June 2018 20: 38
        It will not work. And if it works, it’s more expensive by itself ...
      2. 0
        5 June 2018 22: 20
        You won’t do anything with the volcano, volcanoes erupt when the pressure in the cavity reaches a peak, and a nuclear warhead only pits it through the crack from the explosion.
    2. 0
      7 June 2018 00: 06
      It seems that nuclear power plants will be more priority goals than gas hubs. And there are many more of them in the USA laughing
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  8. +4
    5 June 2018 07: 37
    You can stop the supply of seeds, food, electronics, etc. You can also block Apple and Microsoft software products. This will disorganize and paralyze the transport system and government, and much more ...
    And note, not a single rocket is needed.
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 19: 33
      Quote: Ross_54
      .... You can also block Apple and Microsoft software products. This disorganizes and paralyzes the transport system and the state ...

      This doesn’t paralyze anything. And you think that fools are sitting in the government? No, they are never fools there.
  9. +16
    5 June 2018 07: 40
    This article is from the series: "It’s terrible to be terrifying, but if you think about it, it becomes funny"

    If you think about it, for starters, the Tomahawks will not reach the Cross for a long time, and secondly, their path will lie through two air defense positions. And since they fly for several hours, even if they are missed by the air defense of the border, they will intercept the planes.
    Plus, different nodes must be attacked from different positions.
    Plus, Yamal is almost entirely export (just look where the pipelines go).
    Plus we still have Surgut, and there are also deposits in the European part of the Russian Federation.
    Plus, all gas power plants (large) have the ability to switch to liquid fuel


    Shorter nonsense
  10. +3
    5 June 2018 07: 45
    M ... yes ... The author is unaware of the categories to which production belongs and how they ensure their energy security ....
    To continue the topic, how many missiles do you need for collapse in the FSA? wassat
    1. +4
      5 June 2018 12: 47
      One! To Yellustone's Caldera.
      1. 0
        5 June 2018 23: 49
        Well, if only the king bomb is 100 megatons tongue
  11. +4
    5 June 2018 07: 50
    The author put in jail urgently! He told the Americans how to fight with Russia cheaply. P is generally nonsense. Who said that Russia will not retaliate? It has every right. Well, most likely the destroyer will shoot Tomahawks in a short period of time for different purposes. So, depending on the distance to the target, they will be hit at different times. And already with the defeat of the first goals, you can make a response without waiting for the complete defeat of the goals.
    1. +2
      5 June 2018 09: 09
      The main thing is the will to answer. And here I have big doubts.
      1. +6
        5 June 2018 10: 50
        What kind of cryochamber do you keep saying that you don’t know about Syria and Crimea?
    2. +1
      5 June 2018 14: 23
      Yes, he is not the first who writes about this, IMHO, in general, a repost from the works of Maxim Kalashnikov! That much to such "scarecrows".
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  12. +1
    5 June 2018 07: 53
    He seems to be the author of the book “Russia vs. NATO: An Analysis of a Probable War,” where he honestly points out -
    In general, how much does the author take upon himself? Such a question cannot but arise. Indeed, analytical developments on the topic of possible wars are usually carried out by headquarters, powerful analytical structures, which are full of the most competent analysts, including those with big stars on uniform who have served in the army all their lives. The author, however, seems to have neither a military education nor experience in servicebut trying to solve a difficult question alone. Yes, this is a difficult task ... Everything said below it is a logical experiment, not claiming anything more.
  13. +2
    5 June 2018 08: 03
    Yeah! Where it is thin, there it breaks! You need to hide behind yourself urgently, "partners" are getting impudent! And why does everyone think that our strategists "do not itch at the top"? Who knows who will strike first in the threatened period? And there are more than enough goals there.
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 09: 07
      I suspect that "our strategists and guarantors" will surrender us with all the giblets at the hour of "H".
  14. +7
    5 June 2018 08: 16
    An interesting author is Verkhoturov. He in PUBLIC SPACE thinks about how probable baking sheets are better to defeat Russia. But much of the article is far-fetched. Firstly, the gas pipelines in the tundra were built near each other, not because of the stupidity of the party bosses, but from understandable to everyone, but not Verkhoturov, economic and environmental considerations. Secondly, I do not think that the treacherous enemy will attack treacherously, the attack will be preceded by a preparatory period, at least the enemy must first secure their infrastructure facilities from the Iskanders, so there will be time to stop the pumping of gas, and take it from underground storage facilities for current needs. Thirdly, if the author didn’t think that our European neighbors would find themselves without Russian gas, they would somehow feel like “Ovo” - the answer is “Kakovo”, their network is more vulnerable than ours. Fourth, and what prevents our leadership in response to the incitement to use nuclear weapons against the United States: military doctrine allows this. In general, a rare nonsense.
    1. +2
      5 June 2018 09: 06
      We advise the author to indicate to us the weak points of America, and Europe too (if Europeans do not grow wiser, finally).
    2. 0
      7 June 2018 00: 22
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Firstly, the gas pipelines in the tundra were built near each other not because of the stupidity of the party bosses, but from understandable to everyone, but not Verkhoturov, economic and environmental considerations

      There were already drawings of existing gas pipelines ... I drafted the required number of threads (like SP-2) using the parallel graphics method and the project is ready laughing
  15. +5
    5 June 2018 08: 26
    The idiocy "what prevented the pipelines from dispersing in the tundra" after this phrase can not be read further !!!!
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 09: 04
      Such a thought also flickered. There would be no tundra left. And so what damage is done.
  16. +4
    5 June 2018 08: 35
    If I were an American, I would not have fired rockets to destroy these very stations and gas pipelines. And he’d just use radical idiots. The practice of using terrorist organizations is unmeasured. One has only to send several groups disguised as a tourist and to mine these very pipelines in hard-to-reach places. In the meantime, there will be confusion and chaos to act decisively and with maximum damage. For this reason, I believe that if someone really wants to, he will fulfill his plan with more secure methods. In any country.
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 09: 02
      And you, my friend, where did you come from? Advisor freelance.
      1. 0
        5 June 2018 09: 44
        On this side of the cordon, FRIEND.
        1. +1
          5 June 2018 09: 53
          I think today's SMERSH will react to you and your Friends .... if that.
          1. +11
            5 June 2018 10: 08
            I like your approach to the discussion))) As far as I understand the purpose of the "forum" is a place to exchange views on a specific topic. In this publication, the author raised the problem of the vulnerability of the gas transportation system and the possible consequences in the event of the destruction of its key facilities. But he considered only one possible option, in his opinion. I, as a thinking person, proposed my own version of the development of events, which, in my opinion, is more believable (of power). But you, along with Comrade Nord Ural, instead of conducting discussions on the topic, are stumbling to the stigma and accusations of complicity with the enemies of our state. You fell low, comrades ... For this, each of those present expresses his opinion in order to consider possible options, and their plausibility. If you don’t say anything, better keep silent - you will look more intelligent
      2. +2
        5 June 2018 13: 33
        Read The Red Storm by T. Clancy. Everything coincides there, down to the details. Written in 1986 ...
        1. +1
          5 June 2018 13: 55
          I did not understand a little about what you are exactly ... Does it coincide with what? With the opinion of the author of the article?
      3. 0
        6 June 2018 09: 01
        They have internet in the hospital. Here and indulge.
    2. +1
      5 June 2018 10: 54
      Do not underestimate the work of special services. And with us and they they do not eat bread in vain. This type of operation is revealed at the time of development and preparation. If it were so easy for us, infrastructure facilities would explode weekly
      1. +2
        5 June 2018 11: 37
        I do not underestimate her. The fact that news on preventing another terrorist attack periodically pops up indicates that the special services are not sleeping. For all the time that such news came across, I did not notice that someone, in principle, was planning sabotage at industrial facilities. The meaning of my first post is that there are other methods that are safer for an attacking country than to risk engaging in direct confrontation)))
        1. +4
          5 June 2018 12: 53
          It just seems to be safer. The big powers and the big ones that have long understood that in some things it’s better to come to an agreement, look at hundreds of MANPADS from various kinds of postanist-terrorist organizations, but have you heard many terrorist attacks using them? Although to fill up the Boeing in his sheremetye with his help, just spit. There are simply unspoken agreements on restrictions between special services and any group that does this will be destroyed first of all by its own. So with industrial infrastructure to develop a sabotage with hundreds of dead for the security services of the level of great powers just to spit but do not hide the sticking ears so that exactly the same actions will begin already in your territory.
          1. +1
            5 June 2018 14: 03
            In general, I agree with you. Of course, I can’t think of a strategy from my couch that is developed by entire analytical departments, but it seems to me that a series of sabotage at infrastructure and energy facilities will give an advantage to a suddenly attacked enemy, since such sabotage takes time for the defenders to react.
            1. 0
              5 June 2018 14: 34
              It is such a thing that of those who can really do this, in general, the war with him will obviously be with the exchange of heat and light, and there not only the gas pipeline system will be a mess. And before such a war, all of these Skomovtsy will be busy with work on general communications centers, etc. and about how to drag hundreds and hundreds of kilograms of explosives into the tundra will be the last thing they think. I won’t be surprised if there really is no air defense there. For if the war, it’s as if it’s all the same, and if not, then the shooter needs to be very convincing in order to prevent the ICBMs from flying to him. So with saboteurs, no one in full force will send a delta there, so the existing departments of the FSB with the police there are over the eyes. The maximum that a temporary withdrawal of one or two pipelines is possible.
    3. +1
      5 June 2018 18: 54
      first they still need to be reached, Siberia is not the Krasnodar Territory, there are swamps all around, taiga.
      Secondly, the Gazprom security service is not in vain eating its bread, there is a perimeter and quick reaction groups.
    4. 0
      13 June 2018 19: 43
      Quote: Kadaver
      If I were an American, I would not have fired rockets to destroy these very stations and gas pipelines. And he’d just use radical idiots. The practice of using terrorist organizations is unmeasured. One has only to send several groups disguised as a tourist and to mine these very pipelines in hard-to-reach places. In the meantime, there will be confusion and chaos to act decisively and with maximum damage. For this reason, I believe that if someone really wants to, he will fulfill his plan with more secure methods. In any country.

      A Cossack mishandled laughing
  17. +1
    5 June 2018 08: 50
    Gref. To what liberals have brought Russia. "Russia - the country of the downshifter - German Gref. The oil age is over.":
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 16: 57
      Quote: Boris55
      The oil age is over. ":


      Hehe ... ended, how did it ... Down with Gref it ended ...
      Trump, in order to "make America great again," is trying to turn the United States into a "gas station No. 2" and squeeze the European market from Russia for the supply of hydrocarbons from the United States ...
      1. 0
        6 June 2018 07: 32
        Quote: Strelets1
        This is it at Down Gref ended ...

        If we were able to build a rocket on a mini nuclear engine, then very soon the whole world will abandon natural resources, and finally the liberals dream that they would shut off the energy tap of Russia will come true.
  18. 0
    5 June 2018 08: 55
    Under such reasoning in the United States built the entire network of roads. We found out that the destruction of 2-3 railway junction stations is enough to paralyze the entire transport system. Suddenly they got scared and built a road network.
  19. BAI
    +3
    5 June 2018 08: 57
    The author does not own the topic. The only thing that is correct is the "Yamal cross", but its destruction will not lead to a catastrophic decrease in the supply of gas volumes. This place has long been known, there is no discovery here, appropriate measures have been taken. Destruction of any linear object of the object (compressor station, gas distribution system, etc.), underground gas storage will not affect the gas supply in any way. This is the system of gas pipelines and gas supply. With regard to causing substantial damage, it is more appropriate to talk about the destruction of oil refineries.
  20. +2
    5 June 2018 09: 00
    Oh! Oh!
    Well, the GAS will be covered, so there are also hydroelectric power stations, nuclear power plants and ...
    Yes, this is a blow not to Russia, but to Europe! We will get up chemical production, people will swear and begin to fight the cold. And will rockets also stand on duty and freeze?
    SCARY TALE! No need to read it at night!
  21. +2
    5 June 2018 09: 01
    One small but! After such a blow, the world will cease to exist, at least “civilized”. They will survive, and even that is not a fact and for how long, only in wild and remote places.
    1. +2
      5 June 2018 10: 58
      even in the states and we will survive more than half the population. Nuclear weapons are pretty accurate right now. Another question is that the planet will roll back in its development several decades ago. And by the way, in the wild and remote places, no less will perish, because as soon as the restraining factors of the big powers cease, they will begin to slaughter one another.
      1. 0
        5 June 2018 22: 27
        And why are these countries such as: China, Japan, Turkey, India, Australia Taiwan and others rolled back in development?
        1. 0
          6 June 2018 09: 53
          They do not possess competencies in a number of key areas of industry, and what is going to happen to the global economy is even scary to imagine.
          1. 0
            6 June 2018 21: 36
            “They don’t own competencies in a number of key areas of industry,” Wow - but you can give details what exactly they can’t do now, what we are doing.
            1. 0
              6 June 2018 22: 03
              And what do we have to do with it? For these countries, the disappearance of US industry is much worse, and given the fact that it’s hard to imagine that Europe will be left out of the way in this mess, then you can forget about a complex electronics, but wherever you spit, you will stumble on equipment or components which cannot be produced in these countries.
  22. +2
    5 June 2018 09: 02
    I have only two questions for the AUTHOR, what did he use before such an opus? And the second, not even a question, but a proposal: the option of delivering cruise missile attacks on nuclear power plants, and compare with the above! In the morning there was a bad mood, but not so much as the failure of a neighbor!
  23. +3
    5 June 2018 09: 06
    Ndaa. I already present an apocalyptic picture of the breakthrough of the lonely Donald Cook into the territorial waters of the Russian Federation at the distance of launching the “axes” along the pipeline “crosses”. At the same time, the entire defense of the Russian Federation peacefully “chews snot”, and the government calculates possible losses. And if the “Cook” is loaded into 90 “axes” the damage will be simply irreparable. I propose (in order to avoid armageddon), today the Russian Federation to become an American state laughing
    1. +2
      5 June 2018 13: 37
      And what a normal move for a technotriller. Smoked captain "D. Cook" avenges humiliation with the Su-24.
  24. 0
    5 June 2018 09: 13
    Nobody will start a war with axes at gas hubs. The kick itself is quite realistic
    as well as its consequences, but by the time of launch, the half-moon will already be burning, however, somewhere around 1/5 of Russia.
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 16: 54
      Quote: Stils
      Nobody will start a war with axes at gas hubs. The kick itself is quite realistic
      as well as its consequences, but by the time of launch, the half-moon will already be burning, however, somewhere around 1/5 of Russia.

      Well, yes, if only ICBMs. But why should they destroy the "crosses"? There are few other goals.
  25. +1
    5 June 2018 09: 16
    All this is interesting no more than exercises for the mind.
    To understand the difference between the hypothetical strike and the nuclear strike described in the article, it is enough to look at Russia's defense doctrine ... wow, and it says that Russia reserves the right to respond with a nuclear strike even to a non-nuclear attack, in case of a threat to the existence of the state. A curtain. Of course, I believe in the idiocy of Western politicians, but as practice has shown, they behave at the level of a yard punks, i.e. as soon as there is a danger to personal faberge blown away. And they obviously will not want to get the Vanguard straight to the White House and Poseidon to the east and west coast in response to the ax to the power station.
  26. +3
    5 June 2018 09: 24
    And is this published in the analytics section? The VO administration should create another section, ANALYTICS.
  27. +3
    5 June 2018 09: 26
    Quote: vvvjak
    Ndaa. I already present an apocalyptic picture of the breakthrough of the lonely Donald Cook into the territorial waters of the Russian Federation at the distance of launching the “axes” along the pipeline “crosses”. At the same time, the entire defense of the Russian Federation peacefully “chews snot”, and the government calculates possible losses. And if the “Cook” is loaded into 90 “axes” the damage will be simply irreparable. I propose (in order to avoid armageddon), today the Russian Federation to become an American state laughing

    Particularly pleasing, as "in the cold" from the Kara Sea laughing blows to the Yamal hubs Arli Burke began World 3 lol
    1. 0
      7 June 2018 09: 02
      Quote: Stils
      Quote: vvvjak
      Ndaa. I already present an apocalyptic picture of the breakthrough of the lonely Donald Cook into the territorial waters of the Russian Federation at the distance of launching the “axes” along the pipeline “crosses”. At the same time, the entire defense of the Russian Federation peacefully “chews snot”, and the government calculates possible losses. And if the “Cook” is loaded into 90 “axes” the damage will be simply irreparable. I propose (in order to avoid armageddon), today the Russian Federation to become an American state laughing

      Particularly pleasing, as "in the cold" from the Kara Sea laughing blows to the Yamal hubs Arli Burke began World 3 lol

      What is there to rejoice, as if it (World War III) had not begun sad
  28. +5
    5 June 2018 09: 29
    From Khanty-Mansiysk to Cape Nordkapp in Norway, about 2250 km is the range of Tomahawk. At such extreme distances, launches are not carried out. To come closer to the notorious destroyer is to enter the operating zone of the SF. I don’t think that “Orly Burke” will pass at least 300 km - the North Sea guys are reliable. So, here the author has a stretch and inconsistency. Well, the main idea - to disperse the defense industry in Siberia - makes you want to scratch your head. Is this an attempt to find an alternative to the Sakhalin bridge, or where to swell money so that the country does not develop?
    It must be admitted that the construction of oil and gas pipelines took place already in the post-war period, when the future war was seen as nuclear missile. The targets of the strikes were large cities and industrial centers. Energy in war is always a prize, not a goal. You can destroy factories and power plants, you can, in the end, bang the refinery, but a gas pipeline that stretches to your borders, including? Such an action is inappropriate, and the supreme power does not approve of the actions of its military. Here is the percentage of our gas in Europe’s energy sector. It is more profitable for Europe to bang that destroyer than to have that ally and freeze.
    so international gas pipelines are another good way to deter military control, as is nuclear weapons.
  29. +3
    5 June 2018 09: 51
    What the hell is this writing. There are so many antennas in the Arzamas area that it’s understandable that they are not for nothing. This Expert holds our leadership for imbitsilov and desalinates the well-known theory of victory over the enemy, by destroying his infrastructure. About backup generators about our other mobile reserves .... yes, what am I talking about ....
    1. 0
      7 June 2018 09: 08
      Quote: Kent0001
      What the hell is this writing. There are so many antennas in the Arzamas area that it’s understandable that they are not for nothing. This Expert holds our leadership for imbitsilov and desalinates the well-known theory of victory over the enemy, by destroying his infrastructure. About backup generators about our other mobile reserves .... yes, what am I talking about ....

      Right! Forum users may not notice the difference between you laughing
  30. +5
    5 June 2018 10: 15
    The article is moronic in nature. At all times in and in the USSR, the air defense system in the Kola Peninsula region was one of the most developed. Then they must shoot either from the Baltic Sea or from the Barents Sea.
    I think that even with a hint of the onset of a conflict, air defense will be built precisely near such facilities. Now about the vulnerability. Look at the huge chemical plants in the USA in the Great Lakes region? What will happen if you gasp for them, or for their giant hydroelectric dams? Now you can imagine that in the USSR stupid people sat and made gas storages at a depth of 1 m? And there are no cutoff systems? And backup pipelines? An article from the category of "one grenade is enough to blow up the Yellowstone volcano. Article minus.
  31. +1
    5 June 2018 10: 19
    Do not crush, but cause damage. Eternal trouble with the names of articles. And then there will be a retaliatory strike and there will also be damage. And while we and they are capable of causing unacceptable damage. Conflicts will be brought to the periphery in countries like Ukraine, Syria ......
  32. +3
    5 June 2018 10: 20
    Analytics recently "pleases" the level of articles. Now, an article about how in one fell swoop all beatings. But will the author of the article remember how many missiles from the last American strike the Syrian air defense was shot down with our target designation? With the help of either old air defense systems or new ones in export design with Syrian personnel. But by the middle of the article, the author begins to dissemble. And the missile salvo of a lone destroyer of fifty missiles turns into a whole military operation. With the suppression of anti-aircraft defense, most likely airplanes with PRR that will have to fly 100 kilometers to the place of impact. And the number of missiles suddenly increases to 200-300. Those. this is no longer a lone destroyer. And not a punch in style -SUDDENLY. Also, the author does not take into account that all this will fly for several hours in the coverage area of ​​our air defense and VKS equipment.
    And one more argument in favor of the delusional nature of such a blow. At the beginning of this year, the United States had a strong aggravation from North Korea. A country that is colossally inferior to the United States in military potential. And to formally solve the problem with Kim Jong-un was not difficult. But something stopped them from hitting with the help of all these destroyers with cruise missiles, aircraft carriers, super-advanced in their electronics and almost invisible F-35s. Moreover, having as protection the indestructible system of THAAD and Aegis. Despite the fact that the number of Eun’s missiles is not in the thousands. Especially carrying special warheads and capable of reaching the United States.
    I would compare your proposed strike option with a kick to the hive. Damage to the near-zero hit, for which the attacker has a chance to throw hooves from the otvetka.
    1. +1
      5 June 2018 17: 04
      Quote: Servisinzhener
      Analytics recently "pleases" the level of articles.

      And analyteGs - "please" with the level of preparedness for "analyzed problems" and the level of IQ in general ... especially when you read something in space .... br-rrr ...
    2. 0
      7 June 2018 09: 16
      Quote: Servisinzhener
      I would compare your proposed strike option with a kick to the hive. Damage to the near-zero hit, for which the attacker has a chance to throw hooves from the otvetka.

      And I would - with a shot in my leg laughing
  33. +8
    5 June 2018 10: 34
    The author urgently need to learn the materiel.
    Firstly, there is distributed generation in the Russian Federation, up to 14% in the Far Eastern Federal District, only in the central it is less than 1%.
    http://digitalsubstation.com/wp-content/uploads/2
    017/09 / Novoselova-prez.jpg
    oil workers, who know how to count money, have long been switching to their own generation, from oilfields to refining, hence the stability of oil products supply. I will return to this thesis later.
    secondly, the share of thermal generation in the Russian Federation (both coal and gas) is 66%, another 33% falls on nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations, the redistribution of capacities, provided that the power transmission system is preserved, is a matter of a couple of hours.
    thirdly, part of the thermal generation is also equipped with liquid nozzles, so the transition from gas to heating oil is also not a very difficult issue, especially since such TPPs have an insurance reserve of 1-2 days.
    Now about oil products. if there is a shortage of electricity, it is reasonable to transfer the shipment of the most critical goods to diesel traction. There are non-electrified sections on each railway, for example, we have a part of Tatarstan and Udmurtia, and the question of transferring the main rolling stock is 12 hours maximum.
    when declaring martial law, oil workers clog up on environmental standards and ensure maximum selection for gasoline (the fractional composition is expanding), diesel (heavier due to light gas oils) and heating oil (oil block for hungry rations for primary shoulder straps and a medium-viscous component), there will be enough fuel both for transport and for generation.
    fourthly, the pressure in the hydraulic system can be kept somewhat lower, that is, bypassing the compressor stations that are not working, all the same, the end user reduces the gas to the desired parameters. the only problem in this scenario is condensate, that is, the gas will have to be heated, which is achieved by turning off the terminal coolers on the compressor.
    and, yes, on each GPS there is a low-pressure blocking in the network, which stops the gas supply to the line, so that exactly as much gas as there is in the pipe will burn out.
    so that the destruction of the nodes of the GTS will create problems, of course, but do not exaggerate, there will be no collapse. and yes, in the northern latitudes, the depth of soil freezing is much greater than in the middle latitudes, so you still need to be able to hook the pipe itself, it turns out that the gas pumping stations are most vulnerable, and they can be covered with air defense.
  34. +4
    5 June 2018 10: 42
    It’s very frustrating to see such amateurish articles in a reputable publication ... Can you imagine the price of dispersing pipelines along the tundra for the sake of “military interests”? But the main point? So that the enemy would spend more on 3 missiles? .. Perhaps it would be better to create a layered defense of air defense / missile defense, starting from distant approaches, which is done in the Russian Federation? Will the American destroyer fly over the north pole at the flight distance of the missiles or immediately teleport nearby? How and what does the author know about how strategic transport systems are protected (to which pipelines belong?) Two Crimean air defense divisions guard one Crimean bridge, and apparently there is no need to protect gas pipelines ... Of course, you can fantasize a lot by analyzing the map, simplifying all other factors, but this is the level of the student, not the analyst, excuse me for being straightforward. Strategically, the wedge on the gas did not converge, and the consequences of retaliatory strikes must be taken into account. Are there few zones in America whose defeat will lead to disastrous consequences? In the end, is it really so incompetent in the military department that they did not foresee how to secure these objects? .. In general, there are a lot of questions to the article and to the approach: limited, torn off, and of little use. And about the total preparation for the war: in Soviet times, “military roads” were built (limited) - with a huge number of turns (hard to bomb), “military bridges” - with blocks hanging on both sides without lifting mechanisms (who’s between St. Petersburg and Petrozavodsk went - saw for yourself). So what? .. Now, build all the roads in zigzags? .. Later, they reasonably abandoned this idea, and began to straighten the roads as much as possible, realizing that they need to be protected by other methods - an order of magnitude cheaper and much more efficient.
  35. +6
    5 June 2018 11: 02
    Afftor urgently abandon hard drugs and buy a new sofa - the old one drowned in fear of liquid diarrhea from fear.
    We look at the map with circles, remember the range of the ax in a non-nuclear version and we estimate the places where the missiles were launched. Southern Circle - Caspian Sea? Well, it's like the 6th fleet off the coast of Belarus from the category of unscientific fiction and is physically impossible. The Black Sea ... yeah, you need to let it go almost from the coast of Russia. It’s interesting how long the NATO pelvis will live, which by default is closely guarded after the first launch? I think a couple of minutes. Northern points. The nearest is a likely launch site - the Baltic, with the same carrier lifetime as in the Black Sea. For the farthest point, you need to either conduct coral on the ice of the NSR (I wonder who would do this?) And even covertly o_O from Russia, or use a submarine that should float up, break the ice, clear the manholes ... covered probably with an invisible cap.
    .... well, let’s say the incredible happened .... SPRN, Navy, VKS went on vacation at once and damaged the pipeline ... in winter ... I think someone knows that transit to Europe will stop. And how many days will she last?
    1. 0
      6 January 2023 14: 43
      And how will you comment now in 2023?
  36. 0
    5 June 2018 11: 29
    So the Yankees claim that they put 70 tomahawks in one Syrian institute. With this expense, they will go broke on kerosene for their tomahawks. And aluminum has now risen in price, not to mention titanium.
  37. +3
    5 June 2018 11: 33
    Another nonsense. Author, you don’t smoke such grass anymore !!. Why the hell will the Americans destroy their property ?? Jewish Anglo-Saxon society needs Russian resources without people, not scorched earth. So, as always, - Medvedev, pederasts, vaccinations for children and EG.
  38. +1
    5 June 2018 11: 44
    Based on this logic, the United States is even more vulnerable. We have Elabuga - a few pieces will be enough to disable all control and energy in general. It doesn’t matter whether the pipelines are intact or not.
  39. +3
    5 June 2018 11: 53
    Perhaps the author is not aware that almost all gas-fired power plants and thermal power plants are gas-fuel oil and fuel oil reserves are maintained all year round. In addition, the answer to such an attack is provided for by military doctrine using nuclear weapons.
    Damage can be done, only a victory over Russia is unlikely to end.
  40. 0
    5 June 2018 12: 03
    There is no other way out, how to ensure the protection of energy facilities with air defense / missile defense. During the threatened period, it is necessary to advance mobile complexes to pre-prepared locations from the force assigned for these purposes. The most effective can be Buk-M2 or M3, Shell-SM. KVM.
  41. +1
    5 June 2018 12: 11
    This topic 10 years ago, Marat Musin / reigned in heaven / raised it. True, without connection with the Topogavki, I remember, in connection with the more frequent detentions of Saudi preachers in Muslim / rather big / communities of gas and oil cities in Russia.
  42. 0
    5 June 2018 12: 42
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    And to the toy depicted in the video, I’m less than an hour away, And on googlemap it can be seen perfectly well. So this one is definitely there.

    --------------------
    Duc she zhezh only made for Moscow. According to the ancient agreement of Brezhnev, not to build a global missile defense. And in other places everything is "open" with us.
    1. 0
      5 June 2018 12: 56
      Quote: Altona
      And in other places everything is "open" with us

      No.

  43. 0
    5 June 2018 13: 00
    The destruction of anything will be mutual - do not forget about it. What, in the USA and the EU there are no major energy nodes, the blow to which paralyzes entire regions? Russia will have time to answer, and if the question arises about the existence of the Russian state, I hope that the answer will immediately be nuclear. The Russian man is so strong that he can decide to sacrifice himself if he knows for sure that he will take the enemy with him to the grave. In the West, this is still remembered. This is something that the Anglo-Saxons, Germans, Francophones and others like will never be capable of. And therefore, they do not dare to start first.
  44. +2
    5 June 2018 13: 12
    These are the analysts, keyboard strategists, who need to be planted. About 15 days, to homeless people. With regular access to socially useful work. Clean the sidewalks, remove garbage. And they will be enlightened.
    1. 0
      6 June 2018 09: 26
      Vaseline only needs to be given with you.
  45. 0
    5 June 2018 13: 22
    I've been trying to understand everything. Where are they going to launch rockets from these nodes?
  46. +2
    5 June 2018 14: 08
    Sorry, of course, but this is nonsense. The author does not seem to understand what he is writing about.
    This is why it is written. Without the help of Western friends and their axes, we sometimes arrange things like that on gas pipelines and the Country is worth nothing. Well emergency "crackers" will work, replace the damaged area. There is nothing critical in the linear part, and even if there are 50 such sections.
    But the author does not seem to have heard what reserve fuel is at thermal stations. Like about nuclear power plants and hydro. He does not seem to know that there are flows. The truth mentioned in passing about centralization, but that it does not understand. About UGS - the same is not in the know. And even more about how the "system" works in emergency situations, all the more it does not know.
    The article is a fat minus for ignorance of the topic.
  47. 0
    5 June 2018 14: 10
    And that there are no such objects in the states, and their mother does not worry, and this crater is a volcano in the Yellowstone Nature Reserve, when, according to the calculations of the Americans themselves, if he eats up, 100 million people will die immediately, and Canada will be covered with a copper basin. Here on it and you can first hit.
    1. 0
      5 June 2018 14: 55
      Yes, you need to think about Yellowstone, not the Yamal Cross.
  48. +1
    5 June 2018 14: 31
    According to the logic of this science fiction, the troops of the Russian Federation do not exist at all, flying a tomahawk to this cross is as simple as entering an abramsu into Red Square. Did the author read about the overwhelming success of a massive cruise missile attack on Syria with its weak air defense? After which the US Navy refuses to purchase tomahawks as missiles that do not meet modern requirements. Where did you need to shoot this tomahawk, what would it fly to the village of Pangoda? From the American Consulate in Yekaterinburg? How close can a tomahawk be able to get? Once a military review was a serious resource, now it is nonsense in the style of Psaki.
  49. +2
    5 June 2018 14: 35
    I can’t be silent ...)))
    To begin with, the blow to the gas pipeline system of Russia with the "cutting" of 85% of the capacity is a shot in both legs of Europe. Honestly, is it not for this "cross" that they made it, so that if you press something at once and be able to protect a rather compact zone of control over gas communication? Well these are trifles. Who will think about Europe if shooting from the Barents Sea goes with “axes”? The author does not correctly consider the possibility of attacks by hydropower plants and nuclear power plants, since the objects are clearly not too tough separately and in terms of integrated air defense areas, which were completed in 2016, according to the Ministry of Defense. Vulnerability is present and not even in the energy issue, but in the issue heat supply. There 70% on gas and a blow in the winter is just a collapse. However, we will never know a few nuances that are important for considering this task:
    1. The capacity of the UGS and their filling on the territory of the Russian Federation in the areas of gas mains (and especially the level of protection).
    2. The capacity of the UGS outside the area of ​​highways, as well as freshly rebuilt during the last five years.
    Naturally, 50 pieces are not enough. But more than 50, the very possibility of launching is problematic, since such a pile of “guests” in potential launch areas will automatically cock the trigger of our revolver.
    Well, to be honest, the vulnerability of the American infrastructure with hyperhubs of everything and everything in megalopolises is even more vulnerable. I will not take into account the factor that our people are small (well, very small) morally more stable, more disciplined and less prone to panic compared to the USA. But the retaliatory strikes against the communication nodes, moreover, corresponding to the number of missiles declared in the article (well, say, two dozen from the sea to two large nodes in Los Angeles and New York), please note precisely in the communication nodes, the collapse will cause no less but rather a larger one. And the consequences will be incomparably more terrible.
    1. 0
      6 June 2018 00: 57
      UGSF - the active volume of about 72 billion cubic meters (in 2009, 25 storage facilities for 62,5 billion cubic meters). By winter, they are usually filled in case of peak consumption in severe frosts. They create a certain reserve, but at the same time they have a small amount of selection per day. The Kasimov UGS (which is mentioned in the article) stores 12 billion cubic meters, but can only give out 100 million cubic meters per day. That is, from all the storages we can take about 1,5-2 billion cubic meters of gas per day. This covers the daily consumption of power plants, boiler houses and parts of industry, and allows them to last about a month or a half.

      But Americans can repeat the strike, including with nuclear weapons ...
      1. 0
        6 June 2018 06: 12
        I'm afraid they won’t. The considered option in the article and in the comments “gives” the Americans no more than an hour before the retaliatory strike, so it’s pointless from them.
        1. 0
          6 June 2018 21: 40
          Do you think they are so afraid of retaliation? laughing
          1. 0
            7 June 2018 04: 53
            And what difference are they afraid or not? How do you feel about the courage of the Papuan, who for the first time in his life sees Yarygin’s small pistol in his hand and giggles vilely, comparing him to his long spear? And I will not. You understand that at the moment, a sudden blow to this node and generally to other nodes, is much worse in the consequences of destruction (I can not force myself to list, as I remember where the BO address is located, I can’t immediately) it is from the field of philosophy rather. And besides, only the Premier League. And most likely something is within a radius of half an hour of flight from the carrier, taking into account the continuous duty of fighters in the air. The option considered by the author could well end in a new bitterness and no more in the case of 100% or 98% interception of the launch package and the sinking of the carrier. But this, unfortunately, is impossible. Including for the reason you have indicated. They really stop being afraid.
  50. +1
    5 June 2018 14: 39
    Question: Why are the Yamal cross, 17 gas pipelines located in the area of ​​the village of Pangoda? The answer is simple: Beginning in the 20 century, the American lobby has been the most influential among government officials in Russia and the USSR. And despite all the efforts, Comrade Stalin and the NKVD could not completely defeat the Fifth Column in the USSR, but now there is no question of that.
  51. 0
    5 June 2018 14: 48
    Not convincing.
  52. kig
    0
    5 June 2018 14: 48
    I heard somewhere that 90% of intelligence information is obtained from the media... I think that this magazine is also viewed by potential adversaries... I wonder if they already had similar ideas?
    1. 0
      5 June 2018 15: 50
      Were. Since construction. There was even some kind of massive operation, or rather a counter-operation
  53. 0
    5 June 2018 14: 50
    And all the armed forces will calmly watch as tomahawks fly across the border and cut gas throughout the country)) If you had a terrible dream, go to a psychologist, and don’t write nonsense on the Internet.
  54. 0
    5 June 2018 15: 28
    somewhat reminiscent of Clancy’s famous novel... only there the Omsk Oil Refinery exploded.... and itself... bully
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    1. +1
      5 June 2018 23: 49
      Before World War II, Germany had English and American capital. And there were also heads who claimed that they would not bomb their property. Well, yes, such speeches were still heard in 1940, but after the raids on Coventry they began to bomb everything and carpet.
      As for the destroyed property, everything was counted and included in reparations, which were ripped off from the Germans. And they also gave them loans to restore this property, and again they ripped off the Germans.
      Germany was put through similar skinning twice, so the technique has long been debugged. It’s just not customary to be interested in it in Russia. It’s boring, it’s difficult, what’s the point of blabbering about “there will be an answer”! laughing
  57. +2
    5 June 2018 16: 09
    Dmitry Verkhoturov
    [/quote] How many missiles do you need to defeat Russia? The answer to the question may seem mind-blowing and shocking. I think about fifty. And not ballistic ones with nuclear warheads, but conventional cruise missiles, RGM/UGM-109D Block III and RGM/UGM-109E Block IV, modern modifications of the American Tomahawk cruise missile. The ammunition capacity of one Arleigh Burke-class destroyer (which can carry up to 50 Tomahawk missiles) is quite enough to achieve victory over Russia in favorable conditions. How is this possible?[quote]

    Answer: This is impossible, Dmitry - neither in winter, nor in summer, nor in spring and not in autumn. Neither 50 Tomahawks, nor 50 Tomahawks (of which the “sworn partners” simply cannot have that many).
    In order to win in a modern war, an economically developed and militarily strongest country (which is the Russian Federation) must inflict unacceptable damage, FIRST OF ALL, to its MILITARY POTENTIAL. and SECONDLY, its ECONOMIC POTENTIAL and INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE COUNTRY.

    No 50 Tomahawks, or even 5000 (five thousand) or more in conventional (and even nuclear) weapons, can accomplish either task - for one simple reason -
    THERE WILL BE NO WINNERS... IF YOU BELIEVE THAT after the launch of 50 TOMAHAWKS, all their flight time to the targets, Putin will call Trump waiting for an answer, receiving reports on repelling the attack and counting losses and damages, then YOU ARE EITHER JUST A STUPID OR YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AT ALL HOW IS THE MODERN RUSSIAN ARMY STRUCTURED (in particular, its military intelligence - in all its guises, from military-political intelligence to electronic intelligence and space systems, aerospace attack warning systems, etc., etc.). Otherwise, it would have dawned on you that the RF Armed Forces, as of the time of publication of your, heh-heh... "analysis" is ABLE TO CAUSE THIS MOST UNACCEPTABLE DAMAGE TO ANY COUNTRY (INCLUDING THE USA) AND THE MILITARY BLOC (NATO) WITHIN AN HOUR - and military and economic potential of the enemy who started the conflict.

    THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DEFEAT RUSSIA - WHO JUST WANTS TO BECOME THE WINNER OF THE RF BY USING MILITARY FORCE WILL HIMSELF BE DESTROYED _ AND RUSSIA HAS ENOUGH TIME FOR THIS.
    1. 0
      5 June 2018 23: 44
      You are hysterical. Drink valerian.
  58. 0
    5 June 2018 16: 26
    Quote: kig
    I heard somewhere that 90% of intelligence information is obtained from the media... I think that this magazine is also viewed by potential adversaries... I wonder if they already had similar ideas?

    The background is usually taken from the media to assess the military-political situation in the country (in the regions and in the world as a whole), and even then everything is carefully filtered, checked from several independent sources - at least that was the case before, I think it’s about the same now - True, there is hundreds of times more crap on the Internet (in the media) ... than there was in the media in 80-90-2000...

    Of course, the Anglo-Saxons had ideas, and plans too, the same notorious “Dropshot”, too lazy to write them down, google it yourself...
    So this plan was abandoned for the same reason that I am writing about here in response to the author - the Dropshot plan was not implemented BECAUSE OF FEAR ("unacceptable risk" as they now say in the West) OF RECEIVING A BLOW IN RESPONSE and UNACCEPTABLE DAMAGE TO MILITARY AND ECONOMIC POTENTIAL
  59. +2
    5 June 2018 16: 51
    Joke article? There are no words....amazing...50 missiles and that's it....Hitler occupied half the country...and it doesn't work at all....Forgive me....Fiction for the sake of fiction. .
  60. 0
    5 June 2018 16: 51
    Judging by the article, the main carriers of cruise missiles are the Navy.
    I would like to know where the carriers will be during the strike, for example, on the Yamal Cross.
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  62. 0
    5 June 2018 17: 25
    I wonder where you should launch the axes from so that they reach the cross
  63. 0
    5 June 2018 17: 34
    Cheldon,
    No... I'm that... ugly... laughing I'm not a spy, in short.... bully
  64. +2
    5 June 2018 17: 55
    The name indicates a very specific number of missiles: fifty. However, the article does not justify this or any other quantity in any way. It seems that the quantity was taken only from the capabilities of the URO type Orly Burke. Why not Ticonderoga, it can be slightly larger, 122 air defense missiles versus 96. We could try to calculate how many missiles are needed to destroy the Cross from the Arctic Ocean under the existing air defense conditions. But to do this, you need to know the organization of air defense in a theater of operations, as well as the possibility of an Orly Burke-type em guided missile or a Ticonderoga-type guided missile launcher entering the Novaya Zemlya area at different times of the year, since vulnerability in winter is mentioned. By the way, the most possible seems to be the use of tomahawks from the Ohio submarine, just last year the US Navy conducted an Icex-type exercise to practice the actions of submarines in polar latitudes, there, of course, it was not the Ohio submarine, but the Virginia. And the Ohio Navy has not about 50 tomahawks, but exactly 154, so in the title of the article it should have been written as fifty, but as one and a half? Thus, the article looks somewhat populist, which many commentators have already noted in a much more explicit form.
  65. 0
    5 June 2018 18: 07
    But our Ministry of Defense doesn’t even know about this! Ay-ay! Chief, everything is gone! Why 50 missiles? Why not 5?! Very useful article (not).
    1. 0
      7 June 2018 11: 14
      Quote: Ivan Petrov-Vodkin
      But our Ministry of Defense doesn’t even know about this! Ay-ay! Chief, everything is gone! Why 50 missiles? Why not 5?! Very useful article (not).

      But men don’t know laughing
  66. 0
    5 June 2018 18: 38
    In short, the author completely forgot about retaliatory strikes.... you need to be a complete idiot to openly bomb Russia. Even if the gas supply completely stops, trains with coal do not go, then the army without this will be able to sweep the United States off the face of the earth a couple of times. There is a nuclear power plant fleet, autonomous generators, finally all the tanks are filled to capacity.....do you think anyone would want to die with the thought that before his death he was able to destroy Russian gas pipelines?
  67. 0
    5 June 2018 18: 48
    The article is, of course, nonsense! There will be no missile strike. Kolenka from Urengoy with daddy Banderlog and the like will simply turn off the valves at the right moment, and liberal mass media, creative “anti-legendary” and all kinds of “pile up” will provide information cover and mass joy for what is happening.
    And the northwestern air defense showed itself in all its glory when Matthias Rust flew. And now NATO members fly wherever they want, and Russia only expresses concern after the fact. Who will guarantee that a reconnaissance aircraft is flying and not a bomb carrier?
    1. 0
      5 June 2018 22: 46
      Or they can make it simpler, load several dozen long-range kamikaze drones into transport planes, when they pass the Russian border, they will be released, they will go to an extremely low flight altitude of 3 - 5 meters, in terrain-following mode, because it is no secret that the entire territory of Russia is covered by radar, but not the entire territory is covered by air defense systems and fighter aircraft.
  68. 0
    5 June 2018 19: 37
    Centralized energy supply is cheaper than a bunch of small stations.
    And besides, I don’t think that everything is as rosy for the Americans
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  71. 0
    5 June 2018 20: 34
    1986, Tom Clancy, “The Red Storm Rises...” did the author finally read? The plot begins with a terrorist attack in the desired location. :)
  72. 0
    5 June 2018 20: 54
    Wow, these are scary things, you still have to imagine how the rockets will reach this place. God knows where. And the air defense will be silent. And yes, there will be a huge explosion, but we, like no one else, have the means to extinguish such fires, and then the author forgot about automatically shutting off the gas supply.
  73. 0
    5 June 2018 22: 17
    Very interesting analysis! Thank you!
    Now, let's look at the vulnerability of the metropolis - Moscow. One of the most vulnerable places is substations: open high-voltage, block concrete, traction subways, trams, trolleybuses and Russian Railways. The most expensive equipment at a substation is power transformers. Always hot - an ideal target for missiles with a thermal imaging seeker or a group of attackers. If you destroy about 100 substations, the entire Moscow energy system will collapse! In this case, there will not only be a transport collapse, but, what is much worse, water supply and sewerage will stop. If the sewage pumping stations stop, all residential areas of Moscow will turn into a disaster zone. Transformers don't change overnight! This is how, without a nuclear strike or complex military operations, you can create a lot of problems for the capital.
    1. 0
      5 June 2018 22: 37
      “If you destroy about 100 substations, the entire Moscow energy system will collapse!” To do this, it is enough to remove two substations; last year, half of the Far East went offline due to one substation.
    2. 0
      7 June 2018 14: 04
      We need to think strategically: why transformers? We immediately target the fecal pumping stations with a special seeker rocket. And - “all residential areas of Moscow will turn into a disaster zone.” Muscovites will have to flee to non-dormitory areas. The capital is automatically transferred to New Vasyuki...
  74. 0
    5 June 2018 23: 43
    Did you forget to calculate Russia's retaliatory strike?
  75. 0
    6 June 2018 04: 05
    He also forgot to tell about the valve units. If there is a leak or damage to the gas pipeline, the protection system is automatically activated. The district operator only needs to press a button and the valve located tens of kilometers from the station shuts off the gas supply and the remaining gas comes out through a special “candle”. Now the storyteller has been found. First I went I would like to see how gas pipelines are built.
  76. 0
    6 June 2018 05: 00
    The article, to be honest, is strong. It is unexpected and unpleasant to learn about this vulnerability. We can only hope for the prudence of the United States that a nuclear strike is inevitable in response. After all, according to our military doctrine, this is possible in “the event of a threat to the existence of Russia.” And gas collapse is exactly that. I would like to believe that the Americans have already been warned about this.
  77. 0
    6 June 2018 06: 38
    as far as I know (in our city) there are both hydroelectric power stations and thermal power plants (all of our own) if the hydroelectric power station is clear - it runs on water, then the thermal power plant runs on gas, but the boilers are MULTI-FUEL!!! and I think that this is the case, if not everywhere, then at many enterprises of this class. Therefore, don’t panic, dear author, everything was thought out for you back in the USSR!!! Or do you think that there are... only “stupid people” sitting there!?
  78. 0
    6 June 2018 08: 29
    In the event of an attack, the US will be stopped within XNUMX hours.
  79. luk
    0
    6 June 2018 10: 00
    I wouldn't miss an article like this at all. Some kind of nonsense. Only one factor is taken into account - the destruction of the gas infrastructure. Not a word about a retaliatory strike, about the effectiveness of air defense, about strategic fuel reserves, about backup power supply schemes, not to mention mothballed steam locomotives and mobile generators. And yet - first he writes that 50 missiles are enough, and then he talks about 200-30 only for the gas “cross”. In addition, Russia is gasified by what percentage? They forgot about the firewood. And about the Leningrad blockade too. This is if they hit us with 50 missiles. In fact, a war with the United States, if it starts, will last 3-5 hours. Therefore, no gas will be required at all. What is the article about?
  80. 0
    6 June 2018 11: 33
    A narrow analysis, not everything depends so much on gas, there are the same vulnerabilities in the United States and Europe, our Defense Ministry definitely has all the coordinates of these important objects... with the same success one can describe the vulnerability of the United States from the Yellowstone volcano - one ICBM and kirdyk North America.....so it's not that simple.
  81. 0
    6 June 2018 11: 58
    Quote: Dead Day
    Fifty missiles to defeat Russia
    the flight of fantasy is endless ... that is, the "otvetka" of Russia is not taken into account at all? or do our ICBMs fly on gas? theoretically, Russia can destroy all the USA ...

    Yes, the author’s imagination is off the charts. Almost in Clancy style. But that one was sabotaged by the separatists, and then there was a missile attack on gas pipelines. Plus, the author’s missiles will directly hit the gas pipeline. Is it okay that such missiles have a KVO of at least 5-10 meters?
    Well, all his further calculations, as well as statements that such construction is nothing more than sabotage, are just made up
  82. 0
    6 June 2018 12: 40
    If the Americans decide to attack the “cross”, then this is definitely a nuclear war!
    And then in a couple of days it will no longer matter whether this cross is destroyed or not, because by that time only microbes will remain on the earth... if they remain... And they don’t need our gas...
  83. +1
    6 June 2018 20: 28
    Funny...The United States is well aware that the explosion of just one thermonuclear bomb on its territory in the area of ​​the famous supervolcano will return this sparsely populated cannibalistic country to the Stone Age. Even North Korea, if it tries, can do it alone.
  84. 0
    6 June 2018 20: 33
    I beg your pardon, was the article written for a fee?
    I haven’t read anything like this in VO yet.
  85. 0
    6 June 2018 22: 06
    How much does it take to destroy the United States? I wonder if our Liberoids were interested in this or, as always, they didn’t pay for it? am am drinks
    1. +2
      7 June 2018 00: 30
      My granddaughter says: “I’ll go watch the movie “Plasticine of Rings”
  86. +1
    7 June 2018 08: 19
    That’s why there are local reserves of any resources, otherwise any plant could stop just because a truck got stuck in a traffic jam. Pipelines have exploded in various countries more than once. And what? Nothing, the losses are purely monetary. In the case of gas, in general, you have to keep its excess in storage in order for it to be pumped at all.

    And yet, the share of gas in the energy sector in 2013 is 53.2%, not 70%.

    And I wish you success in simply dragging the Kyrgyz Republic to shell Yamal. You'll go straight to the bottom and no one will look at the flag.
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  88. +1
    7 June 2018 08: 39
    Nonsense! An instant retaliatory salvo of nuclear missiles at the United States, and then figure out whether the Americans hit with simple missiles or not with simple ones. I think the lack of gas “crosses” in the USA is compensated by other crosses...
  89. +1
    7 June 2018 09: 03
    A theory of pure water, considering a game with one goal. Yugoslavia and Iraq were doomed because they could not suppress the carriers of the Kyrgyz Republic and strike back at the enemy’s infrastructure. Air defense systems are needed to repel the first attack, and then it’s time for a retaliatory strike. Or will Russia passively contemplate how destroyers with Tomahawks moor to our shores, shoot back and leave to replenish their ammunition? Although with such a cowardly government this is not impossible.
  90. 0
    7 June 2018 11: 57
    Nonsense, not an article. Our “not brothers” shout to the whole world about our “aggression”, but they use our gas. I can suggest an even more crazy idea to the author. Send “hungry non-brothers” into Russian territory under the guise of gastaibarters with 100 g of TNT, cheap and tasteful wassat
  91. 0
    7 June 2018 12: 11
    Rave. Dear author, in addition to thermal power plants, there are also nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power plants. Further, not all thermal power plants operate on gas. Further, if the gas supply suddenly stops, the power plant is required to switch to backup fuel, usually fuel oil. In reality, at least one unit or boiler at a power plant will have time to switch to fuel oil. Next, they will turn on the disabled equipment, and quite quickly. At any power plant there is a fuel oil reserve standard; as a rule, the reserve is enough for at least a week (depending on the time of delivery of fuel oil to the thermal power plant). Backup equipment will be turned on at thermal power plants where there is gas.
    There is no need to force the issue, especially since you don’t understand anything about energy issues. And the name is spectacular - test))))
  92. 0
    7 June 2018 12: 43
    What kind of victory over Russia are we talking about, who exactly is going to defeat it and, most importantly, why? The West needs a Russia that is intact and capable of buying from the West whatever it wants to buy. Some quarrels between those in power in Russia and Western countries are nothing more than a temporary misunderstanding that will pass just as it arose. Yes, the West is trying to keep Russia at arm's length and comes up with all sorts of horror stories for this purpose. But Russia also sins in the same way. So, despite individual temperature jumps in relations between Russia and the West, the average temperature across the planet is still normal. But seriously, in a serious conflict there will be no winners in principle. There will be a global cemetery, don’t even go to a fortune teller. And which of the inhabitants of the cemetery are the winners?
  93. 0
    7 June 2018 13: 19
    you need to immediately give a large-scale answer, so that there are no thoughts
  94. 0
    7 June 2018 13: 38
    Author of an article from the series “about a spherical horse in a vacuum” To begin with, join the army as a private for 5 years.
  95. 0
    7 June 2018 13: 42
    From the series “A person has a developed circulatory system and in the center is a heart, and theoretically I can poke a knife into it unnoticed.” Author, let’s try, poke it at me, This will be a worthy example of the action of your theory. Just keep in mind that while you were eating vegetable with your mother’s money and chose a knife - I cut fish soup and slept on the ground with a machine gun. How do you assess your chances?
  96. 0
    7 June 2018 13: 58
    Under no circumstances should the United States fire tomahawks at Yamal! And in general for everything east of the Urals. Since we still have to give Omsk and Tomsk to the Estonians for reparations!!!
  97. -1
    7 June 2018 22: 58
    but the answer will not arrive, as I understand it, judging by this deep thought. I haven’t read more nonsense - in fact, the destruction of infrastructure facilities in the modern world is terrorism. military operations are conducted only against paramilitary units, armies and military infrastructure. And I want to note that the military infrastructure in the Russian Federation is capable of operating autonomously without any civilian infrastructure facilities.
    You can still fantasize about such nonsense and make an asymmetrical attack on American data centers where all the data on financial transactions, cash savings, etc., etc. are stored. there are not so many of them - but it will be a complete destruction of the economy. SO let's further develop these crazy fantasies.
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  99. 0
    8 June 2018 13: 16
    Author! Have pity on the owl!!!!
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