No concessions. USA - India: Buy C-400 from the Russian Federation - blame yourself

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US officials made it clear to India that they did not intend to allow any indulgence in the CAATSA sanctions package for India when they bought Russian weapons. In the Indian edition Financial express says that the United States responded to calls for New Delhi to take into account the fact that Russia is India’s long-time and reliable partner in providing security.

Washington's reaction to India was clearly disappointing. The United States said that the US sanctions measures would be extended to countries that are going to buy weapons from Russia, including India. India is going to purchase five C-400 air defense systems from Russia, and it will not decide what to do as part of the fighter purchase program.



In New Delhi received a clear answer: you will buy weapon from Russia-get sanctions.

No concessions. USA - India: Buy C-400 from the Russian Federation - blame yourself


Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Political-Military Affairs Tina Kaidanov:
CAATSA is a special document, and we should take it seriously. Trump's administration is always bound by US law. This is an American law. I hope that not only India, but all partners with whom we communicate, will understand that we will have to seriously evaluate any potential large-scale purchase of weapons from Russia, because this is what requires us to observe the law.


That is, the logic is this: the law itself was passed, and now they themselves refer to the fact that they need to carry it out, since they are "grief" for observing the law.

Earlier in the Indian government noted that such statements, which are actually threats emanating from Washington, are unacceptable if the United States is really going to become India’s reliable partner in terms of security. But the US, these Indian concerns so far, apparently, are of little concern.
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  1. +23
    19 May 2018 10: 18
    Hindus! Buy elephants only in the USA!
    1. +52
      19 May 2018 10: 22
      The hour of truth has arrived. Now let's see how the Hindus can bend. "Who are they for life"
      1. +10
        19 May 2018 10: 26
        Hindus will buy from the US F 35.
        1. +20
          19 May 2018 10: 29
          Quote: Vadim237
          Hindus will buy from the US F 35.

          Yah belay And is there evidence, or did Vanga's spirit whisper?
          1. +7
            19 May 2018 10: 46
            Quote: Chertt
            Oh well. Is there any evidence, or did Vanga's spirit whisper?

            They have nowhere to go, they will scream, beg, but they will buy on the terms that they will be set.
            1. +2
              19 May 2018 11: 01
              Over the past five years, India's share in Russian arms exports has been about 35%. Obviously, this is a blow to the economy and the weakening of the Russian military-industrial complex.
              1. +7
                19 May 2018 11: 31
                Most likely, such an impudent collision of mattresses will only convince (or encourage) to buy our complexes, and not only them.
                1. +4
                  19 May 2018 11: 47
                  Quote: Chertt
                  The hour of truth has arrived.

                  The hour of pathos came. laughing
                  The usual chatter. Just now, each bunch spreads at the speed of light across networks.
                  And hundreds of millions of ordinary people begin to procrastinate "news" and make themselves experts and experts. wink
                  1. +1
                    19 May 2018 12: 19
                    Quote: maxim947
                    Most likely, such an impudent collision of mattresses will only convince (or encourage) to buy our complexes, and not only them ..

                    That is if the current leadership of India is smart enough! And that will be until Washington arranges a “color” revolution in India. I think that regarding the implementation of the "color" revolution in India to establish there exclusively its pro-American regime, the US State Department has long been working with its special services.
                    1. +3
                      19 May 2018 17: 09
                      What for? The current political elite of India has long been pro-American.
                      Although even she is unlikely to go for the purchase of the F-35 with all her desire - stupidly because there is no such money (and they won’t transfer a single piece of US technology).
                      Most likely, they will break, they will break, and they will begin to buy the MiG-35 and Su-57 (well, the S-400). Otherwise, the Indian economic elephant simply cannot be pulled. Although the European cut has not been canceled.
                  2. 0
                    20 May 2018 14: 51
                    I agree! And there is.
                2. +2
                  20 May 2018 02: 36
                  This is provided if the Indians still have eggs! It seems that even if India buys C400 from Russia, the Americans will immediately forget about the sanctions. Why should they lose such buyers? This is purely a weak test.
                  1. 0
                    20 May 2018 11: 40
                    Quote: mihai_md2003
                    This is purely a weak test.

                    Trump will write on the Internet again -When did I say that?
            2. +3
              19 May 2018 11: 12
              Quote: Puncher
              They have nowhere to go

              They have something to do. I’ll say offhand. Sam, Russia, France, with the Swedes. These are only obvious options. All with their pros and cons. In addition, there is no caplet over the Hindus, There’s no hurry (by the way, too)
            3. SSR
              0
              19 May 2018 12: 31
              Quote: Puncher
              Quote: Chertt
              Oh well. Is there any evidence, or did Vanga's spirit whisper?

              They have nowhere to go, they will scream, beg, but they will buy on the terms that they will be set.

              And before that, how did they live?
              Chev can you confirm your subjective statement?
          2. +2
            19 May 2018 10: 47
            And where will they go - our joint project on Su 57 is buried, they need a five like blood from their nose.
            1. +6
              19 May 2018 11: 14
              Quote: Vadim237
              they need five like blood from their nose.

              But why ? Where do you get the information from? belay What a "nosebleed". The Indians may well wait and see until all this fuss with the "fifth generation" is determined
              1. +1
                19 May 2018 12: 10
                The main adversary - China, already has five, respectively, parity is needed.
              2. +4
                19 May 2018 12: 15
                Quote: Chertt
                Quote: Vadim237
                they need five like blood from their nose.

                But why ? Where do you get the information from? belay What a "nosebleed". The Indians may well wait and see until all this fuss with the "fifth generation" is determined

                Indians can wait and watch only as long as Pakistanis wait and watch. And the Pakistanis are now in graters with the Americans and are about to give birth to the purchase of our aircraft. Then India will have to move at an accelerated pace.
                And about the hustle and bustle of the "fifth generation" ... Fifth generation aircraft are not really needed by Hindus. The bulk of Indo-pilots flies on such junk! They are 4th generation as a dream, actually.
          3. +4
            19 May 2018 11: 51
            Quote: Chertt
            Quote: Vadim237
            Hindus will buy from the US F 35.

            Yah belay And is there evidence, or did Vanga's spirit whisper?

            Well, Vadim most likely has the spirit of Grigory Rasputin. wink
          4. 0
            21 May 2018 11: 27
            Everything is much simpler - forced. And ritual screams, SGA do not care, because everything is bought from them.
        2. +8
          19 May 2018 10: 33
          Quote: Vadim237
          Hindus will buy from the US F 35.

          this is stupid, you don’t even need to buy a pissed broom from the USA, if you count on its after-sales service, the Americans will refer to some thread and the Indians will be thrown
          1. +2
            19 May 2018 10: 52
            Quote: poquello
            this is stupid, you don’t even need to buy a pissed broom from the USA, if you count on its after-sales service, the Americans will refer to some thread and the Indians will be thrown

            And what's the point of throwing Indians to them? They use a similar kind of scammers to give weight to their political requirements (the Mistral example). And the USA and India have no points of collision on political issues. On the contrary, sandwiched between Pakistan and China, India is drifting to the side pro-American bloc of states in this region.
            Therefore, the military-technical cooperation between India and the United States will only grow. For what amers throw Indians? They want to milk them and use their potential against the Chinese.
            1. +1
              19 May 2018 11: 04
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              And what's the point of throwing Indians to them.

              But what's the point in the scarecrows for the cooperation of the Indians with us? and what guarantees that such scarecrows will not come up again and again? )) everything is according to their law, sanctions, etc. - these are violations of the rules of the game, but it is worth it to those who do not read the rules, and the Indians should have corresponding expectations from transactions with them
              1. +1
                19 May 2018 11: 29
                Quote: poquello
                But what's the point in the scarecrows for the cooperation of the Indians with us?

                The point is to squeeze out as much of our share of the Indian market as possible and begin to push not individual weapons, but to pack them in whole packages in order to extract as much profit as possible and politically tie the Indians to themselves.
                Quote: poquello
                everything is according to their law, sanctions, etc. - these are violations of the rules of the game, but it is worth it to those who do not read the rules, and the Indians should have corresponding expectations from transactions with them
                I repeat, they throw only those who are trying to get rid of them. And everyone does. Russia has declared them an adversary of America, so cooperation with it is not encouraged and, as we see, they even threaten to punish it. This is an unpleasant moment for us, but it It looks at least quite logical.
                And the Indians are well aware that if something happens, the Russian Federation will enter the war for them, but the United States in the future may well bring the level of interaction to a strategic level (like Japan or South Korea) .Therefore, they now have a difficult choice --- with on the one hand, buying weapons from Russians is profitable and reliable, but India will not be able to walk on its own like a cat for an infinitely long time, and it simply has no alternative to stumble upon, only a pro-American bloc.
                1. 0
                  19 May 2018 11: 47
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  India cannot walk on its own for an infinitely long time

                  ? IMHO, besides the Americans in the world, no one is engaged in forcible pulling into blocs, associations and alliances, and the confrontation with Pakistan (China) is resolved slowly at the negotiation level, why shouldn’t she go on her own? - the country is not small
                2. +2
                  19 May 2018 15: 14
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  .Russia declared them an adversary of America, therefore cooperation with it is not encouraged and, as we see, they even threaten to punish it. This is an unpleasant moment for us, but it looks at least quite logical.

                  But for us the most unpleasant moment is that we can’t punish America (economically and politically) on the contrary in every way we support its economy.
                3. 0
                  20 May 2018 11: 42
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  And she simply has no alternative where to stumble, only a pro-American bloc.

                  Europeans themselves are sick of this block.
        3. +3
          19 May 2018 10: 34
          With a package of conditions when they can be applied, and when not? So far, Hindus have been compared to gypsies, not idiots.
          1. +3
            19 May 2018 10: 52
            Quote: sivuch
            With a package of conditions when they can be applied, and when not? So far, Hindus have been compared to gypsies, not idiots.

            Right There is another comparison. Jews vparivayut Our Square for dear shekels
        4. +3
          19 May 2018 10: 39
          Then let them buy patriots at the same time. Let's see what they will be against the Chinese. Not so good in the Persian Gulf
        5. +4
          19 May 2018 10: 43
          . In New Delhi received a definite answer: if you buy weapons from Russia - get sanctions. .

          If everything is really so, then at the pyndosav obviously eat the roof.
        6. +1
          19 May 2018 11: 03
          Quote: Vadim237
          Hindus will buy from the US F 35.

          Do they have so much money? Or they’ll buy one thing.
          1. +2
            19 May 2018 11: 36
            There, the bulk of the people is poverty, and the ruling elite has enough money, and there will remain to be washed on the F-35 and S-400 and still
            1. 0
              19 May 2018 11: 43
              I still doubt it. But time will tell. winked
            2. LEK
              0
              19 May 2018 17: 54
              only there ?
        7. +1
          19 May 2018 11: 30
          "Do not lift" Mowgli F-35, all engineering and aviation support must be changed under the 35th, and this is "O-very expensive".
          I think that the Indians of Su-35 will be satisfied
          1. +2
            19 May 2018 12: 20
            Kostya. I greet you! Well, they are gypsies .... They pull the hair from your head and say: Do not gilt the handle, I will curse you. So that....
            1. +3
              19 May 2018 12: 33
              Vyacheslav! hi
              Hey Romaly! They are.... wink
            2. +1
              19 May 2018 13: 30
              Quote: sabakina
              Well, they are gypsies .... They pull the hair from your head and say: Do not gilt the handle, I will curse you. So that....

              No. Pro damn it later! At first they say - “oh dear, good you! You think about everything, give more than you receive! Everything will be fine with you, just be a little trickier!” And also the Indians need to know such a gypsy saying - from dylnepe nor savo drab to zrakhal! No cure for stupidity helps!
        8. 0
          19 May 2018 12: 37
          Quote: Vadim237
          Hindus will buy from the US F 35.

          ========
          Oh oh ??? Or, do you naively believe that they (in the sense of the Indians) are not going to twist their nose "Yankees" ???
        9. +1
          19 May 2018 12: 50
          Do not buy. Stupidly for money))) buy 40 fighters for 7 yards, then change the entire system from training pilots to airfields, purchase weapons for these aircraft, build them into the country's system, and more and more. Such a purchase of yards of 50 green will cost them)))) this is not to put NATO airplanes in the country, here it’s completely different) the Indians are shaking for every penny))) and here it is shouting)))
          1. 0
            19 May 2018 17: 14
            Hindus 450 UAVs decided to buy - sort of like the same American.
        10. 0
          21 May 2018 12: 51
          If they buy, then a maximum of a hundred aircraft, and India now needs at least five hundred, and by 2030 another five hundred. It is clear here that the F-18 or the upgraded F-15se is more acceptable for them, but they already have a Su-30 and therefore they also do not need these boards.
      2. +14
        19 May 2018 10: 52
        Quote: Chertt
        The hour of truth has arrived. Now let's see how the Hindus can bend. "Who are they for life"

        The hour of truth for the Hindus? And what side will it become for us? The hour of truth for the S-400 was when Israeli F-35s flew up to bombard Syria. There they would have tested the complex, and there they wiped off the nose of both Trump and all the S-400 opponents. India is weighing all the pros and cons and believe me, seeing that Russia cannot answer for itself, it is very doubtful of the benefits of a deal with a partner who is in words - against the United States, but in fact its trouble-free “partner”.
        Convince me. Become in a pose and tell us how quickly you changed the decision on deliveries to Syria S-300 ... belay I will not say anything about Turkish tomatoes, I just do not want to recall these "angry words" of the president that someone will not get off with something. Indeed, they did not get off. And tomatoes, and tourism, and gas at a bargain price, and the S-400 out of turn ... But it was just business ... request
        Goodwill is not based on the position and quickness of “effective managers”, but on unquestioning sovereignty, firmness of state policy and tough answers to the machinations of all kinds of people ... Interestingly, “Nord” was rescued from the Ukrainian captivity? The trawler himself, the crew and the captain? Something became quiet ...
        1. +3
          19 May 2018 11: 04
          ROSS 42, I agree with you, the States are not only in India, they make it clear to the whole World: whoever is not with us is against us. And the attitude towards the enemy will be appropriate. And India itself is clear that it does not have a reliable ally against the States. Therefore, there is something for Indians to think about.
        2. +6
          19 May 2018 11: 47
          I understand your emotion, I even support it somewhere. But it's just an emotion
          .
          Quote: ROSS 42
          when Israeli F-35s flew up to bombard Syria. There they would have experienced the complex, and there they wiped off the nose and Trump and all the opponents

          Do you propose shooting down an Israeli plane over Israel or Libya?
          Quote: ROSS 42
          . And tomatoes, and tourism, and gas at a bargain price, and the S-400 out of turn ... And it was just business.

          Would you like a war between Russia and Turkey
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Interestingly, "Nord" from the Ukrainian captivity rescued?

          It was necessary to carry out the operation of the MTR of the Russian Federation?
          Are you spy mishandled ?? Or just an emotionally unstable person. bully
        3. +2
          19 May 2018 12: 17
          Quote: ROSS 42
          The hour of truth for the S-400 was when Israeli F-35s flew up to bombard Syria. There they would have experienced the complex,

          how many hawks have divorced ...
          Well, what a fright we had to shoot down Israeli F-35 ???? They bombed our group ???? we have an agreement with Syria to combat barmaley. ALL!!!
          remember, even the mattress covers when they hit Syria with a hatchet a second time, they warned ours and not ONE ax did not fly in our direction
          Interestingly, "Nord" from the Ukrainian captivity rescued? The trawler himself, the crew and the captain? Something became quiet ...

          but nothing that ours in early May, too, took their boat? or are you not interested? that's why it became quiet
        4. +2
          19 May 2018 12: 52
          Why write this nonsense? Shoot down an airplane of a non-hostile state, and even in the sky of another state altogether? They do not go into Syria. Can you understand this?
      3. 0
        19 May 2018 11: 33
        Quote: Chertt
        The hour of truth has arrived. Now let's see how the Hindus can bend. "Who are they for life"

        Hindus ...
      4. +1
        19 May 2018 12: 13
        And who are they in life? They, like everyone else, will act in their own interests. And in order to comply with their interests, everyone has to go under the Americans, because now, the entire world world economy, it is a de facto American economy. Trump even broke the Chinese in the trade war, and what can we say about the Indians.

        Only to us there is no place. And if Russia wants to exist normally in modern conditions, it needs to strengthen and close its economy; so that it exists independently. When the kingdom of the dollar passes, then you can talk about something.

        All together, countries can certainly collapse the United States, but why should they do this?
        1. +1
          19 May 2018 12: 55
          And this does not need to be done. Already all the leading economists of the states of Trump write letters to the thousands that something they do will bring the situation to the limit. The story goes in a circle unfortunately.
        2. 0
          19 May 2018 23: 17
          Quote: Sevastiec
          And if Russia wants to exist normally in modern conditions, it needs to strengthen and close its economy; so that it exists independently

          Strengthen yes, but close in no case. Beyond the puddle, only this is expected. They already tried to bury us several times, it did not work.
      5. 0
        19 May 2018 13: 21
        The hour of truth has arrived. Now let's see how the Hindus can bend. "Who are they for life"

        A very difficult question is how much the United States holds them for one well-known place, and also considering that China and Pakistan are nearby, they themselves are not rich in life, I think the issue of the price of weapons is not unimportant.
      6. +1
        19 May 2018 14: 13
        Quote: Chertt
        Now let's see how the Hindus can bend.

        bend to the ground
        Quote: Chertt
        "Who are they for life"

        gypsies .....
      7. 0
        19 May 2018 19: 45
        Hindus are Yogis. So that they can bend and bend so that you never dreamed of.
    2. +9
      19 May 2018 10: 22
      Dima hi It is interesting what Indians will do after such an ultimatum. what
      1. +5
        19 May 2018 10: 23
        Pasha, hello!
        hi


        Interestingly, in relation to us, what is it called?


        If the enemy’s actions are aimed at undermining the economy, interfere with normal relations with states?

        There seems to be a very definite name for such actions.



        1. +7
          19 May 2018 10: 26
          Hello, Vasya ! hi What do you think: India will refuse to buy the S-400 or still buy it, once again taking out the brain by knocking out preferences (the USA has banned us, and we are buying - so let's give us baksheesh)?
          1. +5
            19 May 2018 10: 28
            I think this:

            Quote: bouncyhunter
            or will he buy it, once again taking out the brain by knocking out preferences (the USA has forbidden us, and we are buying - so let's give us baksheesh)?



            as they say - and eat a fish and .... (next) sit down

            those. and face save and system get

            Yes, and we are still interested in the same,

            maybe later, when the "Poseidon" will be enough to encircle the coast, it will be possible to hint that they got ....
            1. +5
              19 May 2018 10: 41
              I don’t understand why everyone worries so much, they won’t buy it anyway, we need more of these complexes ourselves. Suddenly, these idiotic-crazy stripes with their exclusivity will escalate the situation so that it gets out of control and tomahawks fly at us, what will we shoot down? Near Crimea there are even more idiotic ones, too, they suddenly have to fight back from them. How to fight back?
              1. 0
                19 May 2018 11: 44
                Quote: Tartar 174
                I don’t understand why everyone worries so much, they won’t buy it anyway, we need more of these complexes ourselves. Suddenly, these idiotic-crazy stripes with their exclusivity will escalate the situation so that it gets out of control and tomahawks fly at us, what will we shoot down? Near Crimea there are even more idiotic ones, too, they suddenly have to fight back from them. How to fight back?

                need to attack, not fight back
                1. 0
                  19 May 2018 19: 26
                  Quote: Graz
                  need to attack, not fight back

                  Hero! If so, then this must be done without waiting for the attack, or maybe right now you suggest?
              2. 0
                19 May 2018 23: 30
                Quote: Tatar 174
                I don’t understand why everyone worries so much, they won’t buy it anyway, we need more of these complexes ourselves. Suddenly, these idiotic-crazy stripes with their exclusivity will escalate the situation so that it gets out of control and tomahawks fly at us, what will we shoot down?

                Somewhere half a year ago one pan wandered with the Polish flag and wrote with hope about the cloud of “axes”. They asked him then to state how he was going to deliver this cloud unnoticed and where he was going to launch it from. We are still waiting for the screen of the map with the marked starting points.
            2. +3
              19 May 2018 10: 42
              So I think so ...
              1. +2
                19 May 2018 12: 40
                Pasha! Do not think, but do it! Combine the air defense of the Russian Federation and Belarus into one information field. And build up the group to such limits that it was enough to repel the attack of 1000 axes. And then you can already hit the atom.
                1. 0
                  19 May 2018 15: 17
                  enough to repel an attack of 1000 axes.
                  1000 is not enough. The striped ones have about 4500
                2. +1
                  19 May 2018 16: 30
                  Glory hi
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Combine the air defense of the Russian Federation and Belarus into one information field.

                  Isn’t it right now? what
            3. +5
              19 May 2018 10: 43
              If there is something to lose India in other areas (besides military cooperation), then it is quite realistic. They will wait for the code, the nonsense of the overseas partner will disappear, because they have no analogue and are not expected to.
          2. MPN
            +6
            19 May 2018 10: 35
            pasha hi
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            and we buy - so give us a bakshish)?

            I have no doubt ... technology will knock out a bonus ... laughing In general, the task for India is not trivial ... they will beg for America from us, but the solution will not be soon and soooo boring ... we'll see ...
          3. +3
            19 May 2018 11: 35
            I do not think .... Islamabad is considering the acquisition of Su-shek-35x ......
            So without the S-400, Mowglam will be troublesome ...
            Paul! hi hi soldier
            1. +2
              19 May 2018 11: 42
              Kostik hi
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              I do not think .... Islamabad is considering the acquisition of Su-shek-35x ......
              So without the S-400, Mowglam will be troublesome ...

              good Tooting ! drinks
      2. +4
        19 May 2018 10: 33
        pasha hi Well, maybe they will start charging the Amesian self-propelled howitzer ... bully Video I will not post about dancing around the gun ..
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Dima hi It is interesting what Indians will do after such an ultimatum. what
        1. +3
          19 May 2018 10: 36
          Quote: 210ox
          Video I will not post about dancing around the gun ..

          No need - I already have this rzhach in the collection. lol
          1. +5
            19 May 2018 12: 49
            Pasha laughing , you probably don’t have this in your collection! wink
      3. +3
        19 May 2018 10: 36
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Dima hi It is interesting what Indians will do after such an ultimatum. what

        they will definitely not refuse Russia, such a step is akin to betraying the interests of the country
        1. +2
          19 May 2018 10: 44
          Quote: poquello
          they will definitely not refuse Russia, such a step is akin to betraying the interests of the country

          Do you seriously think so or are you joking?
          1. +3
            19 May 2018 10: 55
            Quote: Puncher
            Quote: poquello
            they will definitely not refuse Russia, such a step is akin to betraying the interests of the country

            Do you seriously think so or are you joking?

            more than seriously, the defense power of India is based on Russian weapons, Russia does not link its sales with restrictions on other countries, so India dilutes our supply with other countries. If a corrupt Indian official protects the refusal of ours, the defense will be undermined.
      4. +2
        19 May 2018 10: 42
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        It is interesting what Indians will do after such an ultimatum.

        they will sit in the Lotus position and go to the astral plane. to consult lol
        Hi hi
      5. +2
        19 May 2018 10: 47
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I wonder what the Indians will do after such an ultimatum

        Maybe dancing ...
        1. +1
          19 May 2018 13: 05
          Quote: Puncher
          Maybe dancing ...
          These?
    3. +9
      19 May 2018 10: 39
      American empty scarecrows tired the whole world. When it reaches everyone, the world will change dramatically.
      1. +1
        19 May 2018 10: 50
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        American empty scarecrows tired the whole world. When it reaches everyone, the world will change dramatically.

        Empty scarecrows ... mmmm ...
        the Chinese side agreed to reduce the surplus in trade with Americans by $ 2020 billion by 200 and reduce duties on American goods
        1. +4
          19 May 2018 10: 57
          Well, you understand that these are such tales from the Chinese. Then they say they tried but failed. And how do you think this should happen? Will China sell less or will the USA reduce the cost of products made in the USA so that the Chinese can buy it? Yes, the United States inside the country can not even reduce the cost and the Americans are forced to buy cars in Germany, South Korea, Japan and all sorts of rags and electronics from China.
      2. +1
        19 May 2018 10: 59
        Quote: Sith Lord
        American empty scarecrows tired the whole world. When it reaches everyone, the world will change dramatically.

        Not so they are empty for Russia. The whole world is groaning how skillfully we fight off one scandal after another, moreover, sucked from the finger, which knocks on the keyboard. We angrily express concern. When it comes to you that those who always refer to external (!!!) causes of their own failures are simple - pea yap, not capable of great things. Trivia interrupts the audience for fun. The mundial is more important to them, the Universiade is more important to them, and even without Eurovision they can’t imagine life ...
      3. +3
        19 May 2018 12: 32
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        American empty scarecrows tired the whole world. When it reaches everyone, the world will change dramatically.
        Reaching soon. Erdogan does not refuse to purchase S-400 despite the pressure from the United States and the threat of sanctions. When set, the Indians will have the opportunity to look at what it will be for Turkey and from this they will continue to dance. In the meantime, the Indians will take the position of "neither yours nor ours."
      4. +3
        19 May 2018 13: 08
        Sergey, hi . Weird question. To Hitler in military conditions only four years later it dawned.
  2. +1
    19 May 2018 10: 20
    India do not disgrace. Do you have to ask anyone else?
    1. +2
      19 May 2018 10: 41
      Quote: Jura
      India do not disgrace. Do you have to ask anyone else?

      Of course, on whom well-being depends.
  3. +2
    19 May 2018 10: 20
    Blackmail, threats, conspiracies are the real strengths of FSA. It seems that they have a tantrum and, in addition to intimidation, they have nothing to show.
  4. +1
    19 May 2018 10: 21
    the position of a corrupt woman is to sit on two ... ahem ... Hindus, as always.
  5. +3
    19 May 2018 10: 23
    Hindus will sign a contract for the purchase of S-400, I think in the near future, as I have said more than once. Moreover, a quantitatively large batch of these air defense systems, the ruble is cheap, and oil is getting more expensive.
    US officials made it clear to India that they did not intend to allow any relief on the CAATSA sanctions package for India when it purchases Russian weapons.

    I’m thinking, and if all the countries against which the United States imposes sanctions or threatens them impose sanctions against mattresses, what will Washington say then? I’m talking about China, the Russian Federation, India and so on ...
    1. +2
      19 May 2018 10: 25
      Military equipment is not bought for rubles, and the price does not depend on the exchange rate.
      1. +2
        19 May 2018 10: 30
        Quote: Muvka
        Military equipment is not bought for rubles, and the price does not depend on the exchange rate.

        Hindus will receive the equipment at the price at the time of the conclusion of the contract.
        Wherein..
        At the beginning of this summer, following a meeting at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Indian Prime Minister Naredra Modi adopted a joint declaration stating that they intend to "coordinate efforts to implement a system of mutual settlements in the national currency in bilateral trade." Consultations on this matter between the Central Bank of Russia and the Reserve Bank of India have been held since 2009, a mechanism and working payment schemes have been developed, and businessmen have been given the necessary recommendations.

        According to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, more than 77% of foreign trade agreements between Russia and India in the first half of this year were still paid in US dollars and only 19% in rubles. However, this ratio is changing - say, according to the results of 2013, the dollar accounted for 96,6% of settlements.

        None of the Russian and Indian experts doubts that the transition to mutual settlements in national currencies is a measure necessary for both countries and also very timely.
        1. 0
          19 May 2018 10: 43
          Exactly. A contract is concluded in dollars.
          1. +2
            19 May 2018 10: 45
            Quote: Muvka
            Exactly.

            I mean that the execution of the contract is not a matter of one month. And in a few years the ratio of the ruble to the dollar will be different. And the price of oil, too.
            Quote: Muvka
            A contract is concluded in dollars.

            Not at all a fact.
  6. +3
    19 May 2018 10: 27
    If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it gets both war and shame
    Winston Churchill
    If the Americans can once bend the Indians - write is gone!
  7. +1
    19 May 2018 10: 30
    if India is worried about American sanctions, they will have to continue to observe the growing military cooperation between Russia and Pakistan, and China does not seem to be particularly worried about these sanctions ...
  8. +2
    19 May 2018 10: 30
    Quote: Muvka
    Military equipment is not bought for rubles, and the price does not depend on the exchange rate.


    hi they don’t teach this at school, do not stop them from “analyzing” the arms market.
    1. +1
      19 May 2018 10: 33
      Quote: izja
      itlyse


      so another word is spelled, not mistaken?
    2. +6
      19 May 2018 10: 49
      And where does the school, along with your "onalization"? recourse
      1. +5
        19 May 2018 13: 11
        Ukrainian Jew. Terrible weigh!
  9. +3
    19 May 2018 10: 32
    Well, when Trump needs to be torn, it is impossible to drag so many kinds of conflicts on himself, With his wife with the establishment, with China, Russia, Iran, the DPRK, the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, even with European poodles was overtaken, then I hit the Indians. same as the Turks.
  10. +2
    19 May 2018 10: 34
    Quote: bulvas
    Quote: izja
    itlyse


    so another word is spelled, not mistaken?

    No, I was not mistaken, what Lexus writes in comments is exactly what it is called.
    1. +5
      19 May 2018 15: 48
      You might think you write odes here, you are our dear. Please explain your thoughts, you are not at home.
  11. +1
    19 May 2018 10: 38
    But the United States, these Indian concerns, so far, seem to be of little concern.

    Why should they care? Is the USA somehow dependent on India?
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    1. +2
      19 May 2018 11: 23
      Yes, they don’t have that much population and in China there’s no billion. So there will be rivalry but armed is the loss of money, markets, resources, and so on.
      1. +2
        19 May 2018 13: 15
        They also wash themselves in the Ganges, into which they dump garbage and the dead, because there are no rupees for the funeral.
        1. 0
          19 May 2018 13: 16
          Quote: sabakina
          They also wash themselves in the Ganges, in which they dump garbage and the dead, because there are no rupees for the funeral

          But how is they buried in India? wink
          1. +2
            19 May 2018 13: 24
            They burn it at the ritual bonfire, which is worth the rupees, and, apparently, are not small. What have you banned in Google?
            1. +1
              19 May 2018 13: 33
              Quote: sabakina
              They burn it at the ritual bonfire, which is worth the rupees, and, apparently, are not small. What have you banned in Google?

              and ... dump the rest into the Ganges.
              they have such a tradition, and not because of a lack of rupees.
    2. 0
      19 May 2018 21: 55
      "RF - decrease by 10 million inhabitants." Here is my prediction - the population of Russia will increase to 2050 million people by the year 170 and the economy will be in the top five.
  13. +1
    19 May 2018 10: 41
    Washington’s reaction to India was clearly disappointing.

    India, I think, will be able to decide whether to buy C 400 or not, and look back at the “hegemon” to show its weakness in foreign policy! )))
  14. 0
    19 May 2018 10: 42
    I generally don’t understand what is there to think if they behave right now the United States what will happen next Indians hope to understand if not well Britain has already led them!
    1. 0
      19 May 2018 15: 28
      The Hindus apparently missed the times of colonialism.
  15. 0
    19 May 2018 10: 51
    Hindus this country 3 of the world will not buy the worse for you, as you were slaves to the Annonagles and will remain. The line for the Russian C400 has lingered for decades. Buy Anglo Angl Shit
  16. +1
    19 May 2018 10: 57
    As far as I understand, few people are familiar with the terms of the contract. Do you know that under the terms of the contract, missiles should be made in India, and the guarantee for missiles manufactured in India will be borne by the exporter?
  17. +2
    19 May 2018 11: 01
    But Trump still fulfills his promises ... (except for rapprochement with Russia ..)
    In New Delhi, they received a definite answer: if you buy weapons from Russia, you will get sanctions.

    Think Indians heh heh .. Our weapons (air defense) is very popular around the world ...)))
    And that will be "Jimi, Jimi, Acha Acha .. lol
  18. 0
    19 May 2018 11: 02
    The Americans go all-in, essentially raising the question for everyone - either you (trade) with us, or we will punish you (if you trade with Russia).
  19. +2
    19 May 2018 11: 08
    Hehe ... American laws ... such as the laws of nature ... maybe they will also impose sanctions ... against universal gravity ... it seems Donald hurt his head ... when he fell painfully ... due to the gravity of the earth.
  20. 0
    19 May 2018 11: 09
    Quote: Puncher
    Quote: Chertt
    Oh well. Is there any evidence, or did Vanga's spirit whisper?

    They have nowhere to go, they will scream, beg, but they will buy on the terms that they will be set.


    Just that they have something to do, they can buy the SU-57 or finish theirs with us. And you do not need only tales about the beautiful F-35 which the SU-57 is not suitable for soles, this is bullshit
    1. 0
      19 May 2018 14: 39
      They already advanced Su 57 - frustrated the joint development.
    2. 0
      19 May 2018 15: 32
      Yes, everything would be nothing about the Su-57. But where is he? And how much more will they finish it? About 10 years at least. And they’ll build 20 pieces. And the American Fu-35 flies, dear. Yes, it seems, and in Syria managed to check in. so it’s too early to sing the praises of the Su-57 and bury the Fu-35
      1. 0
        19 May 2018 17: 25
        With Drying, everything goes towards curtailing the Russian VKS armament program and speeding up the creation of a sixth generation aircraft - the Su 57 was supposed to appear back in the 2000s to keep up with the United States, but now it turns out that they have been operating the fifth generation for 18 years and they’ve been doing the sixth for eight years, by 30 already it will take off and it turns out that Russia is behind again - by a generation of fighters. Drying will be exported, and until the 30th VKS will buy the 35th with new engines and avionics from the 57th.
  21. 0
    19 May 2018 11: 22
    Well done Americans, under the guise of sanctions, remove all competitors from the arms market and not only .... Those who are being squeezed out can only "plaintively bleat" ....
    1. +2
      19 May 2018 11: 38
      Soon you will bleat, you will not even notice the traitors of your states.
  22. +1
    19 May 2018 11: 25
    No concessions. USA - India: Buy C-400 from the Russian Federation - blame yourself

    Five pieces grunts want to buy, back in 2017 they signed an agreement, but were afraid of something or there was not enough money, for $ 5 billion .... Yes hi
    S-400 Triumf (Russian: S-400 Triumph, Triumph; according to NATO classification: SA-21 Grumbler am ), formerly known as S-300PMU-3
    ps. Turkey seems to be taking $ 2.5 billion, these are two sets plus additional installations or missiles ..... what
  23. 0
    19 May 2018 11: 33
    It is necessary to sell the S-400 USA.
  24. 0
    19 May 2018 11: 34
    There are only two types of reaction:
    1. Independent country: the USA openly prevents the purchase by various countries of air defense systems s400. Cause? Feel the threat of their hegemony. We do not want to attack the United States, air defense systems are a DEFENSE system, which means that the United States has plans to attack our country, it is not important to seize or change regime = deprivation of independence. As an obstacle to the purchase is the deprivation of the right of an independent country to defense, and as a result, again the deprivation of independence. TAKE ANYWHERE.
    2. Vassal Country: The USA is a state with enormous military power, why should we contact them, they will arrange some more revolution with us .. And if you refuse, they will protect us, we will buy from them, enough for a war with our neighbors. DO NOT TAKE.

    Let's see what India chooses.
  25. +1
    19 May 2018 11: 35
    CAATSA is a special document, and we must take it seriously. The Trump administration is always bound by US laws. This is American law.
    So they would apply their laws on their territory.
  26. +1
    19 May 2018 11: 50
    Hindus need to scratch their turnips tightly. Once bent, you’ll be six for life.
  27. 0
    19 May 2018 11: 51
    Quote: dorz
    Over the past five years, India's share in Russian arms exports has been about 35%. Obviously, this is a blow to the economy and the weakening of the Russian military-industrial complex.

    Why are you soaring for the external market, you need to develop and saturate your internal. Russia is one of the few countries in the world that can, without straining, become self-sufficient. The trouble is that the fifth column rules the country.
  28. 0
    19 May 2018 11: 53
    After such messages I really want
    USA went through a series of earthquakes with a force of 11-12 points!
  29. 0
    19 May 2018 12: 00
    this is the problem of the Indians, if they consider themselves a sovereign country then they should act in this vein
  30. 0
    19 May 2018 12: 18
    "The Trump administration is always bound by US laws. This is American law."
    And therefore it is obligatory for execution by all and India in particular.
  31. +2
    19 May 2018 12: 20
    Blackmail, direct threats, and, if necessary, the dollar are the only trump cards of the United States. Trump felt like a "godfather" in the world and is waiting for the turn to line up to admit it and kiss the ring. Poland, the Baltic states, and Ukraine. The lines in the queue took in the evening.
  32. 0
    19 May 2018 12: 48
    And the fact that the choice may not be made in favor of the United States ... they didn’t think very well ...
  33. +1
    19 May 2018 13: 01
    If the Indians have their own country, then they should immediately turn off the military-technical cooperation with the United States ....
    1. 0
      19 May 2018 13: 05
      Quote: Greg Miller
      If the Indians have their own country, then they should immediately turn off the military-technical cooperation with the United States ....

      Well, who is this Edrikhin?
      1. 0
        19 May 2018 16: 24
        Unified someone))
  34. 0
    19 May 2018 13: 55
    Quote: sabakina
    Ukrainian Jew. Terrible weigh!


    No worse than the man who writes "Princess" under Baba Ava
  35. 0
    19 May 2018 15: 02
    One nuance s to the Indians will not be provided by any technologies because they are sure that the Indians and Indians are one and the same laughing
  36. 0
    19 May 2018 15: 31
    Now let's see if the world has eggs - or they will bend under the United States, or will defend their interests.
    1. 0
      19 May 2018 17: 27
      The Indian elephant will bend under the weight of a log from the United States.
  37. 0
    19 May 2018 16: 48
    "Gundos" are going to punish "by their laws" the whole "rest of the world." And the poor Indians are trying, like a naughty child, to explain to their dad that they want to play with that bad boy whom dad does not like. Who wants to be independent, he will be. And "the peasant will always remain the peasant."
  38. 0
    19 May 2018 19: 12
    And the United States will shoot themselves when they find out that their country is buying cartridges from Russia? ..
  39. 0
    19 May 2018 19: 14
    Quote: Muvka
    Exactly. A contract is concluded in dollars.

    The contract can be concluded in any currency, using any freely convertible for conversion.
  40. 0
    19 May 2018 19: 58
    Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
    Indians can wait and watch only as long as Pakistanis wait and watch. And the Pakistanis are now in graters with the Americans and are about to give birth to the purchase of our aircraft. Then India will have to move at an accelerated pace.
    And about the hustle and bustle of the "fifth generation" ... Fifth generation aircraft are not really needed by Hindus. The bulk of Indo-pilots flies on such junk! They are 4th generation as a dream, actually.


    What will be and how - is not very clear yet. If earlier we (the USSR) could offer the Indians a wide range of products, then now - alas. They either do it themselves, or with the help of others. And Russia is not the only contender in the contracts. In addition, Indians sometimes require conditions that we don’t want to go to (for example, transferring not only the purchased samples themselves, but also technologies, that is, licensed release). Others go for it.

    Unfortunately for us, the light did not converge on us. They can buy the same air defense systems from Israel, artillery from Italy, something Russian, something their own. Submarines - from France and Germany, or they themselves do. destroyer and frigate class ships - mostly themselves, although there are Russian models
    Aviation - now they are buying not only from Russia. So they can consider that it’s more profitable not to take from Russia ...

    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Vadim237
    Hindus will buy from the US F 35.

    this is stupid, you don’t even need to buy a pissed broom from the USA, if you count on its after-sales service, the Americans will refer to some thread and the Indians will be thrown

    Or do not throw. They sell their planes to many countries and did not hear something that at the same time they threw those to whom they were selling. Yes, expensive, I do not argue, but in an amount much larger than we can supply now. Without going into the performance characteristics of the same F-35 and Su-57 - only one thing can be said. When even we have the Su-57, it is not clear yet, and they are pushing their F-35 into more than one country ...

    Quote: TermNachTER
    Then let them buy patriots at the same time. Let's see what they will be against the Chinese. Not so good in the Persian Gulf

    Do you seriously think that there will be a serious war between the two countries (not a border conflict, but a really serious one)? Is it between the two nuclear powers? Seriously?

    Quote: cariperpaint
    Do not buy. Stupidly for money))) buy 40 fighters for 7 yards, then change the entire system from training pilots to airfields, purchase weapons for these aircraft, build them into the country's system, and more and more.

    Well, at the same time, they bought Soviet aircraft and built into the infrastructure that existed then, and then the aircraft had British EMNIP. And now they have not only Russian aircraft. There are both French Mirages 2000, and English Jaguars, and your lightweight Tejas to replace the MIG-21 and MIG-27. Perhaps something will burn out with the "Rafals." So this doesn’t mean anything, that you’ll have to embed it,
  41. 0
    19 May 2018 20: 23
    How to name a country that asks permission from another state, shl..i. why do we have to deal with them, at a difficult moment they will also get advice for help, we can fight on the side of Moscow, but you won’t bomb us. laughing
  42. 0
    19 May 2018 23: 47
    Why offend the Indians? Call them stupid and foolish? India has about 100 nuclear warheads in readiness, ballistic missiles Agni-I (700 km), Agni-II (2500 km), Agni-III (3500 km), intercontinental ballistic missiles Agni-IV (4000 km) and Agni-V ( 8000 km).
    1. 0
      20 May 2018 07: 45
      It is good that India has "friends" with no less nuclear warheads - China and Pakistan.
  43. 0
    20 May 2018 00: 09
    Former Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation Viktor Bondarev emphasized that it would take time for large-scale production of the Su-57 in Russia. "In the first year, the aerospace forces will not receive 20 or 15 aircraft, only two or three, and so on." The F-35 fighter is in service with the US Air Force in the amount of 175 units, and has also been adopted by Australia, Britain, Israel, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway and Japan. And this does not take into account future deliveries under contracts with Denmark, Turkey, etc.
    1. 0
      20 May 2018 07: 24
      Boom, boom, boom, boom ... (Voice of Yefim Kapelyan behind the scenes): Information for consideration. India...
  44. 0
    20 May 2018 07: 22
    Hindus will go to nirvana, Americans can’t get them. We can’t reach them already.
  45. 0
    20 May 2018 07: 41
    “Washington’s reaction to India has clearly disappointed.”
    Here is a "bhai! Bhai! And eat a fish, lie under an American ...
    The ruling part, the establishment of India, is still reverently honored by the British. And to "Russia", like the Chinese - "to deceive a stranger is good." Laovai 老外, overseas devil, ignoramus, ignoramus, barbarian ...
    Russia has never had friends and never will. Most of them are enemies, less often they are not yet allies of our enemies ... Look at the voting at the UN, at the geographic maps of all our neighbors that have no Russia.
  46. +1
    20 May 2018 10: 36
    That is, one state dictates its conditions to another and indicates what can be bought and from whom. This is called super impudence.
  47. +1
    20 May 2018 10: 50
    Gangster traditions continue in the states, and even develop.
  48. +1
    20 May 2018 20: 20
    That's right, if you are a friend, then be him or be a huckster.
  49. +1
    21 May 2018 20: 41
    Well, let's see how strong the BRICS is. It is a pity if the remnants of the psychology of the colony state prevail in India? Here it is, the moment of truth. sad