UAZ with a mortar - we will quickly reach, we will precisely lay

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UAZ Pickup cars armed with Kord heavy machine guns and AG-17 automatic grenade launchers are becoming familiar in the Russian Armed Forces. This technique is actively used in the course of combat training, writes "RG".

UAZ with a mortar - we will quickly reach, we will precisely lay




At present, a vehicle capable of transferring 120-mm mortars 2B11 has also been developed on the basis of UAZ. Thanks to this, artillery crews can quickly change positions, which significantly reduces the time to perform a combat mission.

Such a deployment of weapons provides hidden transportation mortar that is necessary to perform special tasks. Motorized riflemen or special forces are always happy if their actions are supported by such a powerful fire weapon, which makes it possible to effectively strike manpower and enemy defenses.

2B11 has the maximum firing range in 7,1 km. The rate of fire can reach 15 shots per minute. Calculation from 4 man leads weapon in a combat position in just one minute. Ammunition transported - shot 24. The gross vehicle weight with an 230-kg mortar is 2800 kg. Maximum speed - 135 km / h.
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  1. +4
    17 May 2018 15: 10
    And if you stick it into the Yars body, this will be stealth!
    1. +7
      17 May 2018 15: 14
      By 2B11, you still have to attach the drawbar so as not to hemorrhage with loading into the body and lashing after firing. This will significantly reduce the time of position change.
      1. +2
        17 May 2018 15: 22
        And right from the body, he can’t shoot? Barmalei, it seems, shoot from their carts without unloading. And at a speed of 135 km / h, the wheels of the mortar will fall off.
        1. +17
          17 May 2018 15: 30
          At 135 km \ hour, the UAZ itself will fall apart,
          1. +2
            17 May 2018 16: 02
            Will not fall apart. They anneal on the tracks periodically. This is a Patriot, not a Hunter.
          2. +7
            17 May 2018 19: 52
            Quote: Guru
            At 135 km \ hour, the UAZ itself will fall apart,

            Not ... OK .. only the paint on the sides burns out .. laughing
      2. +2
        17 May 2018 16: 45
        Quote: Hire

        4
        Hire (Victor) Today, 15:14 ↑
        By 2B11, you still have to attach the drawbar so as not to hemorrhage with loading into the body and lashing after firing. This will significantly reduce the time of position change.

        It’s easier to take a normal car with a fire control system.
        1. +5
          17 May 2018 16: 47
          Quote: Genry
          It's easier to take a normal car with a fire control system

          If there is enough money ...
          1. +1
            17 May 2018 17: 03
            Quote: Hire
            If there is enough money ...

            Speed, efficiency and accuracy are worth it.
            1. +6
              17 May 2018 20: 04
              UAZ Pickup entered the market in 2015. - Payload - 725 kg.
              the 2B11 mortar as part of the 2S12 Sled mortar complex weighs 210 kg
              20 shells of 16.8 with a total weight of 336 kg
              2 fighters with 200kg equipment
              Итого 725- (336+210+200)=-21
              In general, we have an overload of 21 kg. the driver can be fined. laughing
        2. 0
          17 May 2018 18: 22
          Something tells us that in our army, there will be no such mortars.
        3. 0
          17 May 2018 19: 54
          Quote: Genry

          It’s easier to take a normal car with a fire control system.

          Then it’s easier to drive a tank or rszo ..
          1. +5
            18 May 2018 07: 39
            Quote: Kotovsky
            Then it’s easier to drive a tank or RSZO.

            Have you ever wondered how much the tank has in terms of mileage and number of shots? A couple of thousand kilometers and about 500 rounds ... At the same time he eats a bunch of fuel. And the cost of shells, for a smoothbore gun, is very high. And to shoot, at a mortar, he can never!
            MLRS beneficial only for covering the target area. It doesn’t get into point targets. And the cost of missiles is incommensurable with the cost of cheap mines.

            And the above Phlox type machine shoots with various types of shells and mines. Rides fast and far. And the resource before the repair is very large.
            1. 0
              18 May 2018 10: 48
              Quote: Genry
              Have you ever wondered

              Thank you Henry, you have almost completed my comment.
              For a specific war, a tank. For a smaller war, such as phlox.
              For zavarushki small and for the allies of the poor, UAZ.
              But you can also fool around on the quadric .. lol
              UAZ is also a good thing, the mortar was thrown off, here’s the donkey
              to deliver ammunition, deliver the wounded, what a shmurdyak ..
              Well, the main plus, the store will definitely not steal it .. laughing
              1. +1
                18 May 2018 12: 15
                Quote: Kotovsky
                Thank you Henry, you have almost completed my comment.

                Well, what are you ... What is the thesis?
                You have a mess in the comments, so I did not try to supplement it.
                Quote: Kotovsky
                For a specific war, a tank. For a smaller war, such as phlox.
                For zavarushki small and for the allies of the poor, UAZ.

                You still did not understand that a tank and self-propelled guns are different types of weapons and do not depend on the size of the war and are necessary for precisely "performing different work" in any war. A tank is an assault vehicle with limited ammunition. And self-propelled guns are a support vehicle to which you can always bring up ammunition and quickly replenish it unlimitedly and without ceasing fire.
                Quote: Kotovsky
                But you can also fool around on the quadric .. lol

                And, by the way, copters are useless as strike weapons, there is no ammunition at all ... Their element is reconnaissance and adjustment for the destruction of firing points. And here, together with him, you need an SPG (“Phlox” most suitable for the steppe landscape), which immediately follows the assault line of attack or rolls out for several minutes during defense.
                Quote: Kotovsky
                Well, the main plus, they definitely won’t steal it from the store .. laughing

                Well, here you are wrong on the contrary. Only a tank!
                1. +1
                  18 May 2018 12: 26
                  Well, at least a lecture on the differences in ammunition for a tank and a sau,
                  I didn’t have to listen .. Tell the Syrians that they’re fighting incorrectly,
                  otherwise they don’t know. From the sau they’re firing direct-fire .. Propane balloons
                  they throw themselves ... And you need phloxes, because you need to ... Otherwise, a mess .. request
                  I just say there are different situations .. And you, phlox phlox ..
                  1. +1
                    18 May 2018 12: 47
                    Quote: Kotovsky
                    From sau direct fire fried .. Propane balloons

                    You write, sorry, like a blonde ...
                    Quote: Kotovsky
                    I just say there are different situations .. And you, phlox phlox ..

                    If the enemy is armed, then there is only one situation - do not substitute. And for this you need high efficiency, in this case, quickly did his job and changed position.
                    For the variant with UAZ, two punctures. While the mortar is rolled out of it and deployed, they will start to “cover” you and the goals may move ... And again it will be long or impossible to dive into the UAZ.
                    1. +1
                      18 May 2018 15: 18
                      Quote: Genry
                      You write, sorry, like a blonde.

                      Okay, I'll try as a brunette ..
                      If you look closely at the mortar in the back, you can see a certain frame,
                      with shock absorbers and tow hitch.
                      in short, you can quickly pull for the hitch ..
                      A UAZ with an awning attracts less attention than a steep phlox,
                      in the conditions of modern local warfare, also a plus.
                      I’m not saying that phlox is bad, just somewhere it is redundant.
                      About the reasonableness of placement on the basis of the Urals, there is
                      dear Lopatov spoke, with knowledge of the matter, and then I completely with him
                      agreed. hi
                      p / s let UAZ still live .. smile
  2. +2
    17 May 2018 15: 11
    Shishiga was better
    1. +8
      17 May 2018 15: 13
      Quote: polpot
      Shishiga was better

      Gear shift torment
    2. +7
      17 May 2018 15: 45
      With a cornflower in the back, generally a thing good
      1. 0
        17 May 2018 16: 02
        Respected Evil543 hi You about this "Cornflower" wink
        1. +3
          17 May 2018 16: 21
          About him darling, be he not okay hi
          1. 0
            17 May 2018 16: 25
            Two strangers understood each other: it seems to be nothing unusual? And if you take into account that these people are a little military? hi wink drinks
  3. MPN
    +7
    17 May 2018 15: 12
    It’s safer on horses ... And not everyone likes black color .... What gamut is offered at all?
    The total mass of the car with a 230-kg mortar is 2800 kg. Maximum speed - 135 km / h
    I would have looked straight at the sight ...
    1. +2
      17 May 2018 15: 43
      Yes, please
      1. +5
        17 May 2018 16: 12
        Some farm pickup truck. The feeling that UAZ no longer knows which side to get into the defense order. It would be better if they did adequate machines, and let others think what to put and carry on them. Globally, solutions from the cart did not go far. In my opinion, the Patriot is liquid for such a burden.
  4. +5
    17 May 2018 15: 13
    UAZ with a mortar - we will quickly reach, we will precisely lay

    Sep 12 2016 year
    UAZ Cargo with a 120 mm 2B11 mortar and an all-terrain vehicle with a 82 mm 2B24 mortar on the Army-2016 forum.
    1. +2
      17 May 2018 15: 33
      Sanchez hi Video, although old, but now it is both in place and in time! For the video, as always from me ++++++ !!! hi good
    2. +3
      17 May 2018 15: 34
      Hi hi hi grabbed from the igilovites, but is it necessary ...
      1. +8
        17 May 2018 15: 48
        hi Healthy Rum.
        Quote: novel xnumx
        ... grabbed by the Ishilovites, but is it necessary ...

        request ... Not impressed ... Loaded into the body and all:

        ... whether the matter is robotic
      2. +4
        17 May 2018 16: 04
        Quote: novel xnumx
        ... grabbed by the Ishilovites ...

        ... It is now in trend wink

        SAMUM on "Army-2017"
        1. +5
          17 May 2018 19: 59
          Thing .. Parking neighbor fingers not bending, traffic police do not stop .. good
          1. +1
            17 May 2018 21: 18
            Yes, and the boat trailer. And the inscription on the hood "I do not like fish surveillance"
  5. +4
    17 May 2018 15: 15
    With this build quality at UAZ, I doubt very much for quick support. Or in parts they will conduct manual overhauling and fine-tuning or mortars will be manually rolled.
  6. +3
    17 May 2018 15: 16
    Well, it’s correct that mortars are planted on wheels. one machine can carry the gun itself and ammunition and calculation. drove the car, gave 6-7 shots, curled up and fell down until the answer arrived. still counter-battery radars, too, did not put pickups. shop together they could advance into position and well)
  7. ICT
    +4
    17 May 2018 15: 17
    Quote: polpot
    Shishiga was better

    Yes, there is also no ice, everything was as convenient. but in the likeness it would not be better to do
  8. +9
    17 May 2018 15: 19
    Still roll up, roll up time, sweat.
    We made it easier: we shoot from a 120 mm mortar
    straight from Humvee. Losing no time. fellow
    Mortar serial, sold in a number of countries.
    1. 0
      17 May 2018 15: 23
      How many shells does it deploy?
    2. 0
      17 May 2018 15: 31
      ]Alexei hi And how do you extinguish the inevitable return when fired from a place? On the body and frame "work" does not affect, did not have to be strengthened? ??
      1. +6
        17 May 2018 15: 40
        And smart people attached shock absorbers
        to the mortar! They did not expect? wink
    3. +1
      17 May 2018 15: 35
      even stop for a shot. or straight on the go?
      1. +6
        17 May 2018 15: 45
        It’s still necessary to stop, take aim ... fellow
        Here is a more modern option.
        We wet the barmalei with 120 mm mines directly from the jeep! am
        1. +1
          17 May 2018 15: 47
          too shy to ask. which ones? wink
          1. +3
            17 May 2018 16: 31
            Anyone who climbs: jihadists, nationalists, Sunnis, Communists, Shiites, Feddain ...
            Whom there was ... no one to mention. recourse
            1. +4
              17 May 2018 19: 16
              And here the word "communist" has long been synonymous with Jews. A friend here reports: I go to the directorate, and there the communists are alone, I wanted to say “shalom”.
            2. +1
              17 May 2018 19: 33
              major terrorists on the planet request
        2. +1
          17 May 2018 15: 51
          Alexei, so what’s there with the body, they didn’t reinforce or reserve it? ??
          1. +6
            17 May 2018 17: 24
            What for? seriously booked, it’s no longer a jeep,
            but a light tank. And then the bulletproof armor at the cockpit - and forward.
            Maintain light infantry, special forces, various paratroopers.
            When we had operations surrounding small gangs at the border,
            there weren’t enough such mobiles. While the half-track support mortar was crawling, the whole Sabatuha was already ending. They laughed at them: "slept through the battle again"
            In the picture (model) such as we had in the 80-90s.
            I even took a picture about.
        3. +1
          18 May 2018 07: 06
          The Jews thought out much more literate.
  9. 0
    17 May 2018 15: 29
    The conclusions made by the Syrian company were made right - something that they had previously simply dismissed, proved the right to exist, and now we will use it in the future.
  10. +4
    17 May 2018 15: 29
    Is this 2C12 Sled in the lite version? Duck he 1981 ... What is the novelty of the system then? I do not understand...
    1. +4
      17 May 2018 16: 24
      In the army, automatic mortars are already needed - and these junk offer something.
  11. +2
    17 May 2018 15: 30
    become habitual in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
    - But is it possible to clarify how many of these pickups are in the troops? and then tormented by vague doubts ...
  12. +2
    17 May 2018 15: 32
    Sled dill on the BTR since 2014. We saw a shishaga with a cornflower.
  13. +8
    17 May 2018 15: 35
    no one gets into the 4 cab, one or two into the body, without rigid fixation, this mortar will be a chatterbox in the body, in general some kind of bullshit ..
    1. +1
      17 May 2018 15: 45
      4 people do not climb into the cab, one or two in the body,

      So I wanted to write about it. And if you fence a second motor with BC, you can lose each other in a fever ...
    2. +2
      17 May 2018 18: 12
      This UAZ mortar will be served by 4 dwarfs - all will fit.
  14. +7
    17 May 2018 15: 37
    Dropping to the level of bearded mujahideen? That's just they have unkillable Toyota, and we have a pre-burned patriot ...
  15. +3
    17 May 2018 15: 40
    UAZ with a mortar - we will quickly reach, we will precisely lay
    the main thing is not to fall apart on the road and not rot in a few years, otherwise we rejoice for the army, and for ourselves we don’t really buy UAZs, give it to most foreign cars
    1. +1
      17 May 2018 15: 52
      Yes, it seems, it is normally sold and bought. Price quality. Who what. On local jeep pokatushki, we normally drag along the tundra ...
      1. +2
        17 May 2018 15: 54
        it would be interesting to hear the opinion of a real happy owner, otherwise right now everyone will rush to protect the UAZ, but only a few buy themselves
        1. 0
          18 May 2018 12: 41
          And what would you like to hear? I have a Patriot. this year 10 years will be a typewriter. What are you interested in? Fragility? During operation, the radiator, rear propeller, rear differential (skated without oil after a "successful" maneuver ") were changed. A. Another pump.
          Rots? Yes, it is rotting. Thresholds were changed that year. But now, alas, everything rots. Special people in the design bureau sit and think how to make the equipment work no more than the warranty period.
          What else? And, mileage is small, 120. Coupling, gasoline pump and other relatives. Operation 70% - asphalt, 30% - dirt.
          1. 0
            18 May 2018 13: 04
            But now, alas, everything rots.
            alas, this is a feature of the UAZs, they really rot very quickly, about the “rot everything” you got excited, from my own experience I can say that neither Toyota nor the Koreans themselves rot, only in places where there were bits and were poorly made, my previous corolla sold at the age of 15 - not a single hint of rust anywhere
            1. 0
              18 May 2018 13: 10
              A minute. My Japanese Galant 30 years ago, too, does not rot anything voluntarily. But friends have 5 year old Japanese and Koreans - very much so. A small chip of the paintwork is enough to start the process. The Subariki neighbor changes after a year, because "they begin to bloom and break." Complains. At work, the former head of the gelding sold SLK-shku. Also about 5 years skated. Punished "do not take this g ...".
              Now car manufacturers are not interested in making perpetual cars.
              1. 0
                18 May 2018 13: 13
                I write only about my experience, corolla 15 years, I go kia sportage for 6 years, my wife has been driving ceed for 7 years, no garages and carports, all year round on the street, I don’t even have any hints of rust, I agree about chips on the hood, I agree on the cap tinted about once a year
                1. 0
                  18 May 2018 13: 16
                  Here. And on my Galant, a chip on the hood in an open form lived for about 7 years, after which a redhead appeared. I did not gloss over anything out of stupidity and laziness. It’s good that you have to completely paint it, otherwise the varnish is clinging from old age already ...
                  1. 0
                    18 May 2018 13: 19
                    I mean that the UAZ rot without any chips, this is no secret
          2. 0
            20 May 2018 18: 45
            similarly, only a period of 5 years. changed the radiator, the expansion tank, differential - changed under warranty in response to a request to adjust, the low-beam lamps once a year, do not rot. mileage 66 t. km.
      2. +2
        17 May 2018 16: 53
        you ask your jeepers how much money, effort and time have been invested to turn a patriot into a real car ...
        1. 0
          18 May 2018 12: 43
          What does a real car mean? I have a full-time car. Just made a sleeping bag in the trunk.
  16. 0
    17 May 2018 15: 48
    They write about the calculation of a mortar from 4 people, and in the cabin there are only 2 seats. And the ammunition in the 24 shot is not enough. This is from the force for 2 minutes of shooting. On the one hand it’s good, he shot back quickly and disappeared, but there were two in the cabin, so that would not work out very quickly. Apparently you need to bring to mind a full-fledged 4-5-seater pickup truck with a body on 400-500 kg. Then the volley will be solid, and you can quickly wash off. after firing.
    1. 0
      17 May 2018 16: 04
      Well, even hang up the armor ... Goodbye pickup ... Hi BMP.
      1. +1
        17 May 2018 17: 30
        If you weigh up with armor, you have to strengthen the chassis and engine. Otherwise, it will not work out quickly. But in general, the idea is good, to lay such a margin of safety in a pickup truck. It will turn out a universal car. And the housework, and for the war))
  17. +3
    17 May 2018 15: 53
    Everything is good in this symbiosis, only UAZ is alarming.
    Although, maybe just military acceptance will make it less messy on the assembly of machines, and it will pull up the overall quality indicators uphill.
    It’s too troublesome the Patriot machine, forever around it and under it with keys ...
    1. +2
      17 May 2018 15: 58
      Well, this is our tradition! Under Muscovites, Lada, UAZ to wallow. :)) Himself a car mechanic all his life. For that we are not dumb.;)
  18. 0
    17 May 2018 15: 56
    Probably it's no secret that mortars are already there, and UAZ can be bought for a penny and all this will go and shoot now, although you can hammer for several years, put a mortar on the chassis, carry out tests, spend a bunch of dough and after 5 years get mortar on the chassis.
    1. +2
      17 May 2018 16: 55
      UAZ for a penny? funny
    2. +3
      17 May 2018 18: 56
      Previously, it was based on the Gas-66, after the Urals, now they offer a "novelty." Although in fact the same mortar, only with a different vehicle.
      1. +1
        18 May 2018 07: 14
        Only for such a mortar, it seems, a little "vehicle". This pickup truck is best suited for a heavy machine gun or AGS. And so as not to remove from the body. When transporting such a heavy mortar, it will hang in the pits in the back of the truck and the car will quickly fail. And rolling in - rolling out is not ice at all. And further. And the remaining two other members of the calculation of the mortar will be carried on a separate machine?
  19. +5
    17 May 2018 15: 58
    Ammunition should be 80 rounds - 40 boxes. So much ammunition will not enter this car. GAZ-66 could reload the trench in the field (at an angle), and this car would land in mud and deep snow. IMHO. This complex is to support light infantry (national guard) in areas with a developed road network or cities.
    1. 0
      17 May 2018 16: 07
      Shell the uninhabited in the foothills of Ingushetia. Fine.
  20. +3
    17 May 2018 16: 01
    Yes, while you roll it out, while you roll it, and where ammunition is to be transported? Well, it is doubtful like that.
    Whether it’s the case
  21. +6
    17 May 2018 16: 33
    Why not just attach it to a normal UAZ?
  22. +4
    17 May 2018 16: 59
    This is a joke on top, as I understand it? For this UAZ, the current will move off the asphalt and get stuck right away. For the lock is only center distance, low clearance, ford depth for children. Why release it at all? It will immediately get stuck in the snow, and on clay, etc.
    The same SADCO (or something like that) is much more preferable than this craft for barmaley.
    1. +1
      17 May 2018 18: 14
      He will not get stuck right away - they will make drushlak out of him with shots from large-caliber sniper rifles.
    2. 0
      18 May 2018 12: 44
      Funny you are comrade. What is it stuck with? No, if there is no gasket between the steering wheel and the seat, then of course ...
  23. +4
    17 May 2018 17: 03
    Delirium, unprotected, impassable (in comparison with infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers and other military equipment). Give cheap.
  24. 0
    17 May 2018 17: 14
    a lorry in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is again in demand, only more wheels, four-wheel drive and the cabin to optimize for the military ...
    1. +3
      17 May 2018 18: 19
      Yes already optimized - it turned out: dull, unprotected, shock .no. This is only for export, for the African countries to export.
  25. 0
    17 May 2018 18: 54
    Quote: Invoker39rus
    How many shells does it deploy?

    30 seconds, the norm of firing on an unplanned target. This is much better than what is now trying to push the military-industrial complex into mortar batteries.
  26. 0
    17 May 2018 19: 18
    This version needs another car for calculation and ammunition ... it might be easier ... put rubber similar in size to the UAZ and mask the mortar under the floor of the trailer, and in the back of the calculation and ammunition.
  27. 0
    17 May 2018 19: 46
    No, well, they drove a forty-five to GAZ-43. Yes, and a GAZ-69 120mm mortar drove the identity too. The idea is not new, but necessary, the current to mind
    will bring and, perhaps, will fix.
  28. +4
    17 May 2018 21: 07
    This is cool! They put a mortar and a new type of weapon in the UAZ body, can you go immediately to the dough for Moscow Defense?
    There is a difference is not it ...........

    SpearMK2, a new generation of automatic mortars produced by Israeli company ElbitSystems, was delivered to Azerbaijan.

    Details: http://novostink.ru/azerbaijan/212061-azerbaydzha
    n-zakupaet-izrailskie-minomety.html # ixzz5Fme94gkk
    1. 0
      18 May 2018 03: 13
      .... so millions more will be written off for "development", such as the latest weapons.
  29. +3
    17 May 2018 21: 42
    Yeah, and you can also put the PC on a motorcycle intelligence and support.
  30. +1
    17 May 2018 22: 04
    Yes, the country has become completely impoverished - they began to build jihad mobiles. And recently, they laughed at articles about dill, where are those of the same pseudo-fighting freaks. And someone there in the comments also was going to participate in races with them. It is immediately clear that they had never dealt with a 120-mm mortar.
    But in fact, the essence of the article I see is that in the National Guard again revive mortar divisions. And then they will stop the strike due to the lack of strikers.
  31. +1
    17 May 2018 22: 40
    Quote: Chicha Squad
    Yes, while you roll it out, while you roll it, and where ammunition is to be transported? Well, it is doubtful like that.
    Whether it’s the case

    In fairness, not the entire BK was transported to the GAZ-66. In the mortar battery there was a thrust compartment for 4-6 vehicles only for the supply of ammunition.
  32. 0
    18 May 2018 03: 09
    In such cases, it is desirable / very / to hear the opinion of special forces, and not blah. Bla developers because the reality is sometimes depressing.