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Put in place of the ZRS. The United States announced the imminent equipping of the Navy with laser weapons

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The United States Navy plans to install a laser weapon Helios on warships and thereby replace guns and rocket launchers. Reports about it Daily Star with reference to the American military.


Put in place of the ZRS. The United States announced the imminent equipping of the Navy with laser weapons


It is expected that Helios will replace the anti-aircraft artillery complex Phalanx MK-15 and will be able to protect ships from a variety of threats.

We are talking about lasers, which now have the power and beam structure needed to protect against unmanned aerial vehicles, small ships, as well as some short-range weapons
- noted the source of the publication.

Using Helios will free the US fleet from having to keep ammunition on board, the article says. However, experts believe that the American fleet is not yet ready for such innovations. Thus, according to Mark Gansinger, an expert at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments of the United States, an “adequate electrical supply” has not yet been developed for laser weapons.

As previously reported, the United States has noticeably increased funding for the armed forces amid growing tensions with China and Russia.



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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 5 May 2018 14: 32
    0
    Hyperboloid engineer Garik? With a trailer from a floating nuclear power plant. Just one was built and is being prepared for commissioning for the northern cities of the Russian Federation.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 5 May 2018 14: 35
      +8
      not Garik, but Gorin. (I didn’t invent anything like that).
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 14: 37
        +10
        Quote: newbie
        not Garik, but Gorin. (I didn’t invent anything like that).

        NOT Gorina, but Garina. This correspondent Dima Gorin made a career with lumberjacks. To the cinema. Just great. Let them take everything off their boxes, replacing IT with all the flashlights. Range to horizon from installation height above water = 30km. Light over the horizon will not wrap. And we are their Caliber. Because of the horizon.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 5 May 2018 14: 43
          +4
          The Falaxes also did not bullet over the horizon.
          Yes, and the calibers must make physical contact with the ship, but from beyond the horizon they cannot do this
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 5 May 2018 14: 57
            +8
            Quote: BlackMokona
            The Falaxes also did not bullet over the horizon.
            Yes, and the calibers must make physical contact with the ship, but from beyond the horizon they can’t do itт

            Tell me, comrade! Can you see the Mediterranean from the Caspian Sea?
            1. Vkd dvk
              Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 15: 01
              +2
              Quote: sabakina
              Quote: BlackMokona
              The Falaxes also did not bullet over the horizon.
              Yes, and the calibers must make physical contact with the ship, but from beyond the horizon they can’t do itт

              Tell me, comrade! Can you see the Mediterranean from the Caspian Sea?

              As the guide in Georgia told, when we are tourists there, in the USSR still, if you try this wine now, then in the evening you will see the Eiffel Tower. Of course it is possible. If you hold on to the bottle well.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 5 May 2018 19: 10
                +1
                As practice in X³: Terran Conflict has shown, anti-aircraft laser systems are the best solution for short-range defense against missiles, drones and fighters.
                wassat
                1. SETTGF
                  SETTGF 6 May 2018 15: 02
                  0
                  Shurik70! Baby talk! The laser gun beam attenuates very well in the Earth’s atmosphere, especially when precipitation falls and overcast ...
                  1. SETTGF
                    SETTGF 6 May 2018 15: 07
                    0
                    And to the strategists, I will throw up another idea - if you apply the rotation of anti-ship missiles during the flight, then shooting down from the laser will be problematic ...
                    1. SETTGF
                      SETTGF 6 May 2018 15: 09
                      0
                      More note for strategists - along a flat path ...
                      1. SETTGF
                        SETTGF 6 May 2018 15: 23
                        0
                        Smoke very well attenuates the laser, the reflective coating can perfectly reflect! In order to exclude reflection and scattering of a laser beam, a nuclear-pumped X-ray laser is needed - but humanity is far from that ... Therefore, couch strategists do not make plans!
                      2. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 6 May 2018 15: 30
                        0
                        Here you can see right away - few people play games.
                        Is it the case of American strategists!
                        laughing
                      3. SETTGF
                        SETTGF 6 May 2018 17: 34
                        0
                        Dear strategists and the rest of the hedgehog with them, including us! Look carefully at the presentation by Israeli analyst Jacob Kedmi on the new Peresvet laser complex in Russia! Its power will pleasantly surprise you! And do not write fables about the possibilities of laser weapons - it only at the beginning of its development has a lot of shortcomings!
                    2. AID.S
                      AID.S 7 May 2018 08: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: SETTGF
                      And I will throw another idea to strategists

                      And if you attach a dressing table, then you can hit the source of coherent radiation with a reflected beam.
            2. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 02
              +2
              And does the caliber explode beyond the horizon from the target or should it get into it?
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 08
                +6
                Quote: BlackMokona
                And does the caliber explode beyond the horizon from the target or should it get into it?

                Friend, translate, ah! I haven’t drunk so much yet ...
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 5 May 2018 15: 11
                  +7
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Friend, translate, ah! I haven’t drunk so much yet ...

                  I join the request. I'm so hard ... but I didn’t understand request
                  As far as I understand, Caliber is remarkable in that it always falls exactly at the epicenter laughing
                2. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 12
                  +5
                  A system that will shoot at calibers absolutely does not care where the carrier is. The main thing is that the caliber itself is included in its radius of destruction. And he will come in, he has nowhere to go, the loaf of gigaton is not vigorous on it
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 27
                    +3
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    A system that will shoot at calibers absolutely does not care where the carrier is. The main thing is that the caliber itself is included in its radius of destruction. And he will come in, he has nowhere to go, the loaf of gigaton is not vigorous on it

                    Campaign, the user wrote a post and chopped off. Well, how much do you need to take on your chest, how can you write this? recourse
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 30
                      0
                      The radius of the explosion at Caliber how many kilometers? How many kilometers to the horizon?
                      1. Vkd dvk
                        Vkd dvk 6 May 2018 00: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        The radius of the explosion at Caliber how many kilometers? How many kilometers to the horizon?

            3. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 5 May 2018 17: 10
              +2
              Quote: sabakina
              Tell me, comrade! Can you see the Mediterranean from the Caspian Sea?

              Slavik, who told you that you can shoot from the Caspian ships in the Mediterranean? What brings you to the corner calibrators. Have you tried to learn the materiel?
        2. newcomer
          newcomer 5 May 2018 14: 46
          +1
          Well this was a joke! but in general, yes, Gorin. at the time of writing komenta services google buggy, had to reboot. but with lasers, well, if they do, as they write against drones, but how to reflect the racket?
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 5 May 2018 14: 48
            0
            Laser in their guidance system or launch missiles, then according to the article, the phalaxes will change, not SM
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 5 May 2018 14: 59
              +3
              Quote: BlackMokona
              Laser in their guidance system or launch missiles, change then the article will be falaks, not SM

              Under the article, only the term is changed.
              1. Blackmokona
                Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 05
                +1
                No, the article changes Falax.
                It is expected that Helios will replace the anti-aircraft artillery complex Phalanx MK-15 and will be able to protect ships from a variety of threats.

                And all sorts of headlines have long since broken all ties with reality
            2. newcomer
              newcomer 5 May 2018 15: 41
              +1
              BlackMokona, I don’t know, maybe you are reading something wrong, the article clearly states that the missile launchers change the guns to lasers.
              1. Blackmokona
                Blackmokona 5 May 2018 16: 16
                0
                I read that, I quoted
        3. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 5 May 2018 14: 51
          +1
          Not a correspondent, but an employee of a savings bank. He began to build power lines and did not want to return to the financial field.
          1. Vkd dvk
            Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 15: 03
            +2
            Quote: Aviator_
            Not a correspondent, but an employee of a savings bank. He began to build power lines and did not want to return to the financial field.

            Right I began to forget already. But with the name of Dima, I was not disgraced. Gorin. But I wonder how he would act TODAY?
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 12
              +2
              Guys, what are you? Getting old Career of Dima Gorin. Savings bank. He was waiting for a raise.
            2. 210ox
              210ox 5 May 2018 15: 19
              +2
              Today, he would not only be kicked out of the bank for such a jamb, but would also be penalized slightly. Do you think that financial institutions smeared with honey? Are you in a fairy tale? No, it’s different in different ways and if you work and don’t mess up, and even lick that very place (this applies to any place of work), then a career can be made.
              Quote: wkd dvk
              Quote: Aviator_
              Not a correspondent, but an employee of a savings bank. He began to build power lines and did not want to return to the financial field.

              Right I began to forget already. But with the name of Dima, I was not disgraced. Gorin. But I wonder how he would act TODAY?
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 32
                +3
                Dima, Gorin did not live now, but then. And then, the main thing was man. Right now, the main thing is the loot. It seems that you were not there then ....
            3. sabakina
              sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 28
              +2
              Victor, laughing Well, watch the video below ...
            4. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 5 May 2018 16: 25
              0
              Today, I don’t know, but in 1990 I would surely have run back to my previous place of work.
        4. Svarog51
          Svarog51 6 May 2018 01: 52
          0
          This correspondent Dima Gorin made a career with lumberjacks.

          Victor hi Dima Gorin is not a correspondent, but an accountant. And he did not make a career with woodcutters, but with electricians. Do not take it personally - I write solely for the veracity of the information.
        5. Perviy
          Perviy 6 May 2018 06: 52
          0
          Quote: wkd dvk
          Quote: newbie
          not Garik, but Gorin. (I didn’t invent anything like that).

          NOT Gorina, but Garina. This correspondent Dima Gorin made a career with lumberjacks. To the cinema. Just great. Let them take everything off their boxes, replacing IT with all the flashlights. Range to horizon from installation height above water = 30km. Light over the horizon will not wrap. And we are their Caliber. Because of the horizon.

          Not a correspondent, but a clerk from Sberbank.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 5 May 2018 16: 20
        +2
        Quote: newbie
        (I didn’t invent anything like this

        And will you refuse the prize? what
        1. Vkd dvk
          Vkd dvk 6 May 2018 01: 10
          +1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Quote: newbie
          (I didn’t invent anything like this

          And will you refuse the prize? what

          Hooked. There was a movie. It was called "Prize." Extreme turbidity. But ideologically correct. They drove from work to the House of Culture for viewing. During working hours. The whole plant, the film was driven to DK for a week. And they didn’t sell tickets. While the whole plant did not look at all the shifts, there were no tickets. Under the signature of the heads of units. I then worked as the head of the standardization department. IT'S BEFORE SUCH FOLLOWING! To such cheap agitation. They threatened to not give the thirteenth salary if you did not go to the cinema. Bullshit.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 6 May 2018 01: 36
            +2
            Yes .... and it happened ..: soldiers filled movie theaters, concert halls ....
      3. Svarog51
        Svarog51 6 May 2018 02: 05
        0
        That's right - engineer Garik appears in the movie "Hitler Kaput!"
        wink
      4. vadim dok
        vadim dok 6 May 2018 11: 46
        0
        NOT Gorina, but Garina! Read it!
    2. SETTGF
      SETTGF 6 May 2018 14: 54
      0
      oleg-gr! For such a product, you do not need such power as a nuclear power unit ... Far from US designers to Russian! This is all because of the nuclear-pumped X-ray laser ... the United States could not do, like the Barguzin train! Brains solve a lot!
    3. SETTGF
      SETTGF 6 May 2018 17: 27
      0
      Dear strategists and the rest of the hedgehog with them, including us! Look carefully at the presentation by Israeli analyst Jacob Kedmi on the new Peresvet laser complex in Russia! Its insignificance will pleasantly surprise you! And do not write fables about the possibility of laser weapons - it only at the beginning of its development has a lot of shortcomings!
  2. newcomer
    newcomer 5 May 2018 14: 32
    +2
    soon, very soon_ in the next century, maybe. they already installed railguns ...
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 5 May 2018 14: 46
      0
      But the Chinese have successfully installed
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 01
        +1
        Quote: BlackMokona
        But the Chinese have successfully installed

        and experienced. I hope they did not hit the sun? And then terribly want to live up to retirement!
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 03
          0
          Ask the Chinese
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 14
            +2
            I in Chinese neither be nor me. Will you be a translator?
      2. newcomer
        newcomer 5 May 2018 15: 45
        0
        Blackmokona, I beg you, it’s clear that Saturday night. but you would still remember the Turkish laser system.
    2. Dead duck
      Dead duck 5 May 2018 14: 48
      +4
      Quote: newbie
      soon, very soon_ in the next century, maybe. they already installed railguns ...

      and they defeated everyone ... with their wunderwaffles laughing
  3. nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 5 May 2018 14: 36
    0
    Not so long ago, in order for one laser to work, it was installed on the destroyer and used it (the destroyer) as a power plant ..... and now several lasers are going to be put together ....
    QUESTION ... when shooting a single laser, everything else will not work?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 5 May 2018 14: 44
      +1
      The laser has ridiculous power compared to the power plant of the ship
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 9 May 2018 11: 22
        0
        Quote: BlackMokona
        The laser has ridiculous power compared to the power plant of the ship

        Pumping has two to three orders of magnitude more power than the beam itself. Laser efficiency below the baseboard, if you consider the total power.
    2. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 14: 48
      +1
      Quote: nPuBaTuP
      Not so long ago, in order for one laser to work, it was installed on the destroyer and used it (the destroyer) as a power plant ..... and now several lasers are going to be put together ....
      QUESTION ... when shooting a single laser, everything else will not work?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1vFSm_bSdY
      I think they have this thing about the same. The power of destroyer generators should be asked by specialists. I, not special, think that for each flashlight you need your own generator.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 16
        0
        Victor, if you are talking about Zumwalt, we didn’t see him, we didn’t feel what was there, what was there, the jester knew him.
  4. flicker
    flicker 5 May 2018 14: 36
    +1
    US significantly increases funding for armed forces amid growing tensions with China and Russia
    And rightly so, you need to have time to grab as much dough as possible (while the dollar is the international currency and give it for nothing), and have time to convert it to gold.
    I don’t know how the Pentagon fights, but it knows how to do grandmas.
  5. viktor.
    viktor. 5 May 2018 14: 39
    +2
    It seems to have completed a laser test on Ukrapogranets laughing
  6. Ased
    Ased 5 May 2018 14: 44
    +2
    And why so much joy? Do you really think that the shtatovs will put bullshit on military vessels?
    1. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 15: 13
      +5
      Quote: ASed
      And why so much joy? Do you really think that the shtatovs will put bullshit on military vessels?

      And what kind of babloid thinks about the fleet? For him, the main thing is to push and get kickbacks. The warriors also participate in this, like ours. And this is from the belief that it will never come in handy against a REAL adversary. And to drive camels on the shore with a bunny is a joke.
      Megawatt ray, which can damage the design of a supersonic piece of iron. In a split second. That's what this flashlight should be able to do. Shoot quickly finding a target, from a swinging deck to a moving object, and have time to retarget another ten. Blind homing devices, maybe there can be, maybe .... But if they have eyes. Optics. And if they have a bunch of different aiming devices. and they work at the same time? Judging by the trolley in which he is hidden, the laser can not hit the entire hemisphere. Forward on the nose. At the rear, of course, aft. Dead zones.
      1. Ased
        Ased 5 May 2018 15: 20
        +1
        And on Hiroshima they dropped 100500 f1 ...

        Have you watched the film If tomorrow is the 1938 war?
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 38
          0
          And what is there in that movie? ....
          1. Ased
            Ased 5 May 2018 15: 44
            +3
            There, the fighter “entering the dead zone” of the tank’s operation (see comm Vkd Dvk above :))), with a hat, covered the viewing gap under a peppy motive. Well, a lot of things still. Good film.
            Sometimes it seems to me that it is very popular with VO users.
  7. demo
    demo 5 May 2018 14: 44
    +3
    Putin's speech spurred the imagination and imagination of our sworn friends.
    Using Helios will free the US fleet from having to keep ammunition on board, the article says. However, experts believe that the American fleet is not yet ready for such innovations. Thus, according to Mark Gansinger, an expert at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments of the United States, an “adequate electrical supply” has not yet been developed for laser weapons.
    There is another ship on the trailer - a battery.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 5 May 2018 15: 19
      +1
      Only large ships like UDC and Zumvolty are ready. There will be a restriction on Airlie Burke
      among the shots in a row.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 39
        +3
        Show Zumwalt with a BATTLE laser, not a pointer!
        1. Ased
          Ased 5 May 2018 18: 00
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          Show Zumwalt with a BATTLE laser, not a pointer!


          To the State Department and the Pentagon with such a request.
  8. tchoni
    tchoni 5 May 2018 14: 47
    0
    It seems that the star-striped guys managed to solve the issue of laser beam diffraction in the atmosphere at an acceptable level and choose a wavelength that is not very prone to scattering by hydrometeors ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 18
      +2
      Yeah, the Martians suggested. No wonder they want to play tudy ...
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 5 May 2018 15: 21
      +4
      Everything is simpler: not one beam is concentrated on the target, but several. Or a few dozen.
      At a distance of 5-7 km, you can stably hold a spot of 10 mm in diameter.
      A purely engineering solution.
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 15: 40
        +9
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Everything is simpler: not one beam is concentrated on the target, but several. Or a few dozen.
        At a distance of 5-7 km, you can stably hold a spot of 10 mm in diameter.
        A purely engineering solution.

        Yes you give up. To put it this way, an “engineering solution” is a kind of arrogant statement. Like, we mathematicians don’t care why a car on rails knocks. We have explained, long ago, the area of ​​a circle pi-er-square. Here is a square and knocks. Sensors that determine and adjust your dynamics in dynamics do not exist. And even more so, a lot, at the same time and at one point. It is necessary to reach such nonsense. Try to determine the angular error in order to do this. And the step size of the engine to operate in thousandths of an arc second. And the response speed of the system at supersonic approach speeds. Figure here!
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 5 May 2018 19: 14
          +1
          Everything that you have kindly listed exists and works great. fellow
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 42
        +2
        You are our engineer! Will the batteries be Zumwalt? What? All three straight?
        1. Vkd dvk
          Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 16: 22
          +10
          Quote: sabakina
          You are our engineer! Will the batteries be Zumwalt? What? All three straight?

          At a distance of 5 km, and the desire to keep the beam in the limit of 10 mm, it is necessary to maintain an accuracy of aim of 0,2 arc seconds. The most sophisticated stepper motors have an angle of one step thousands of times larger. To use reducers is to have backlash. And incredibly slow aiming. What to take from him is the exam. How did the dead Zadornov speak of such?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 5 May 2018 23: 38
            0
            I understand that you are from the Zadornivtsi. Also in English, I suppose, you don’t understand. Do not understand article links.
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 5 May 2018 23: 54
            0
            Something simple, so as not to get confused smile :
            https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2015/09/german-rhei
            nmetall-shows-off-80.html
            The four 20 kilowatt HELs are designed to be fired simultaneously, in a technique known as superimposition. All four fire at a target at once, and Rheinmetall's technology combines them into a single powerful 80 kilowatt beam.
            Clear? Four 20 kW lasers are reduced to a target at one point.
            And not only the Germans know how to do this. The Americans and Israel have the same systems.
      3. tchoni
        tchoni 5 May 2018 20: 59
        +2
        I understand you perfectly. Not having the opportunity to organize one large and powerful beam, they decided to use the principle of "interferometer vice versa." This is just understandable. I told you a little about something else. If we take and “cut off” the laser beam immediately after the “muzzle cut” of the installation, we will see a single wave front. No homogeneity. If we do the same thing about 1000 meters from the "muzzle", then we will not see a united front. And we will see a certain picture of the “antinodes” and the power of radiation, similar to ripples in the water. So, this "ripple" entails a serious loss of power with distance. Obviously, the guys from DARPA were able to select the radiation spectrum least affected by this effect.
  9. Vard
    Vard 5 May 2018 14: 52
    +3
    In Samara, a branch of the Basov Institute ... They are engaged in lasers ... Forty years ago they explained to me that this, in principle, does not work ... But it seems to Americans a different version ... It seems ours have found a way to deal with the arms race ... stealth ... YAK-141 ... now here are the lasers ... what else are there for the Americans to slip ...
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 5 May 2018 14: 56
      +2
      And my father, a teacher in computer engineering, categorically stated that it is physically impossible to create a 1 megabyte memory chip. Since one neutron of cosmic radiation and cried all your data. And no one will wrap up the memory of 100 meters of lead.
      1. Vard
        Vard 5 May 2018 15: 04
        0
        After I came up with a parity check ... it wasn’t critical ... although this problem has still not been solved in submarines ... by the way, there were two relay racks for managing the Soviet nuclear submarine reactor ... and the US manager the computer weighed several tons ... precisely because of the reservation ...
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 08
          0
          Well, adaptive optics was invented to solve the problem of the atmosphere. Each problem has its own zagagulin.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 43
            +1
            Quote: BlackMokona
            Here, and to solve the problem of the atmosphere came up
            Of God! It's up to you to pray!
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 5 May 2018 15: 22
        +1
        Quote: BlackMokona
        And my father, a teacher in computer engineering, categorically stated that it is physically impossible to create a 1 megabyte memory chip.

        Given your age, the age of your father ... Did the teacher teach your father to use a calculator?
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 26
          0
          Computer occupied a separate building of the university
  10. asiat_61
    asiat_61 5 May 2018 14: 58
    +1
    They will put Lazarus on a boat, and a floating nuclear power plant, which they will buy from Russia, will be tied to a rope.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 00
      0
      60 kilowatt laser.
      Generator 100 kilowatts "Diesel generator Start HELL 100-T400", 1,6 tons weighs.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 5 May 2018 15: 24
        +2
        The first installed on UDC Ponce - 30 kW. The second, which is now being put on another UDC, is 70 kW. To combat RCC, approximately 100 kW lasers are needed.
  11. andrson
    andrson 5 May 2018 15: 25
    0
    It smacks of an arms race.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 5 May 2018 15: 33
      0
      Putin’s message wasn’t watched? And there is also a laser gun
      1. andrson
        andrson 5 May 2018 15: 39
        0
        I saw, but that its effect is not shown. Yes, here in the ratio of equipment of carriers, they want to take this ..
  12. Curious
    Curious 5 May 2018 15: 37
    +2
    The big mistake the Americans made. that they did not scroll the cartoon. how a laser cuts enemy missiles, drones, planes, flies, mosquitoes and herds of hamsters into small noodles. Therefore, this weapon is not effective and does not belong to the category of "world-equivalent".
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 May 2018 15: 43
    +3
    We glue the rockets with aluminum foil ... The radiation efficiency is reduced by about a hundred times ...
    Well, and how will he act? And in a real battle, in smoke and soot - I see American sailors in white gloves wiping the optics of their hyperboloids with special napkins. In short, before the first hit wassat
  14. KCA
    KCA 5 May 2018 16: 05
    +1
    Well, here is Deripaska's joy, there was a large customer for aluminum - MO, now all RCC will have to be painted with silver
  15. faterdom
    faterdom 5 May 2018 16: 17
    +4
    "Helios" - the last century, we had many Krasnogorsk concocted them in Soviet times, the same "Helios-40", "Helios-44".
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 5 May 2018 16: 30
      0
      [/ quote] "Helios-44" [quote]

      Good glass, focus 58 mm, still in work - there is nothing to break and become obsolete.
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 17: 22
        +1
        Quote: Aviator_
        Helios-44

        Good glass, focus 58 mm, still in work - there is nothing to break and become obsolete.

        Very oily lens. Diplomatically called "portraiture." The best, in my opinion, a normal lens for the people is Industar-61.
        Good resolution, a trifle draws very well. Pretty hard drawing. Lanthanum front glass. Lubricate, if a portrait, it is possible and a mask under a magnifier. The price of his one is more than my Zenith-V with Helios-44.
  16. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov 5 May 2018 17: 11
    +1
    As expected, all the most advanced is being introduced in the most technologically advanced and knowledge-intensive financially developed country. Space has completely crushed by itself, the Moon / Mars is completely American, now military lasers. The US has an overwhelming historical perspective; the development of technology and science is simply gaining pace. They know how to live and develop.
    1. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 17: 28
      +4
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      As expected, all the most advanced is being introduced in the most technologically advanced and knowledge-intensive financially developed country. Space has completely crushed by itself, the Moon / Mars is completely American, now military lasers. The US has an overwhelming historical perspective; the development of technology and science is simply gaining pace. They know how to live and develop.

      If you live, robbing everyone around, then, of course, you can get settled. What are you excited about? That you paid them for their welfare?
      1. Eduard petrov
        Eduard petrov 5 May 2018 18: 06
        +2
        Quote: wkd dvk
        Quote: Eduard Petrov
        As expected, all the most advanced is being introduced in the most technologically advanced and knowledge-intensive financially developed country. Space has completely crushed by itself, the Moon / Mars is completely American, now military lasers. The US has an overwhelming historical perspective; the development of technology and science is simply gaining pace. They know how to live and develop.

        If you live, robbing everyone around, then, of course, you can get settled. What are you excited about? That you paid them for their welfare?

        I pay to our government. Only! And America is strong in its mind, and this is what I admire. The mind always conquers ignorance.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 6 May 2018 03: 18
          +2
          Quote: Eduard Petrov
          The US has an overwhelming historical perspective; the development of technology and science is simply gaining pace. They know how to live and develop. America is strong in its mind, and this is what I admire. The mind always conquers ignorance ..
          How sweet. wassat
    2. Dormidont
      Dormidont 5 May 2018 18: 15
      +3
      Not everything is so simple. You are absolutely right, Crimean is the daughter of a miner
  17. cedar
    cedar 5 May 2018 17: 13
    +1
    "... So, according to Mark Gansinger, an expert at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment of the USA," adequate power supply "for laser weapons has not yet been developed."

    What is there to develop. You take a hundred laser pointers, tie them into a bag, then another and another, all this becomes a Super Laser Pointer. One type of such weapon will bring all enemies to their knees.
    The little crooks, spare the money on the batteries ...
    1. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 17: 30
      +2
      Quote: cedar
      "... So, according to Mark Gansinger, an expert at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment of the USA," adequate power supply "for laser weapons has not yet been developed."

      What is there to develop. You take a hundred laser pointers, tie them into a bag, then another and another, all this becomes a Super Laser Pointer. One type of such weapon will bring all enemies to their knees.
      The little crooks, spare the money on the batteries ...

      Electrical engineering prohibits connecting batteries in parallel. It is only possible sequentially.
      And here it does not creep.
  18. Gato
    Gato 5 May 2018 17: 19
    +1
    adequate power supply

    This is not the most pressing issue. The atmosphere is the main "enemy" of laser weapons, especially at sea. Fog, saturated vapors (moreover, the spectral transmittance depends on the thuy heap of factors, starting from the time of the year, ending with the chemical composition of the sea overboard). In addition, problems with aiming at the target, a delicate optical system, which is contraindicated in the vibration of ship mechanisms, and artillery shooting - this generally knocks down the alignment of all optics. IMHO, laser weapons are effective only in space, and even then, kinetic will give him a head start.
    1. Berkut24
      Berkut24 5 May 2018 20: 58
      +1
      this is not the most pressing issue

      Great-a-wil. The most pressing issue has always been one - cut money. From the F-35, chips are still flying in all directions.
      1. Gato
        Gato 8 May 2018 23: 08
        0
        Wow, that’s right. But, if you read the sources of 1902-1906, then they wrote about the same thing about aviation. Expensive, unnecessary indulgence. But the dreadnoughts are IT!
        1. Gato
          Gato 8 May 2018 23: 10
          0
          I mean, that p.i.nd.so.sy make technological breakthrough from F-35, though ..
          1. Berkut24
            Berkut24 9 May 2018 10: 01
            0
            I've always tried to guess what a breakthrough can be made from a design, which in itself is one continuous limitation. It is designed so that the finish of the structure will be eternal.
    2. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 5 May 2018 22: 42
      +3
      Quote: Gato
      adequate power supply

      This is not the most pressing issue. The atmosphere is the main "enemy" of laser weapons, especially at sea. Fog, saturated vapors (moreover, the spectral transmittance depends on the thuy heap of factors, starting from the time of the year, ending with the chemical composition of the sea overboard). In addition, problems with aiming at the target, a delicate optical system, which is contraindicated in the vibration of ship mechanisms, and artillery shooting - this generally knocks down the alignment of all optics. IMHO, laser weapons are effective only in space, and even then, kinetic will give him a head start.

      All of these lasers, railguns, and beam weapons are a way to engage a potential enemy in wild financial expenses.
      I was wondering. to try to warm up a flying piece of iron at a distance of 5 km, you probably need to have an aiming point of no more than 5 mm. And keep your sight for a while. But it is to control the guidance mechanics within tenths of arc seconds. At the same time, keep the beam following the movement of the target and compensate for the pitching, which affects any marine vessel.
      I think these estimates are enough to make sure that the task is impossible. Then what can this device do, and what tasks will it assign?
      1. aloleggry
        aloleggry 6 May 2018 15: 28
        0
        The little things. They will adopt an international law that it is possible to fight only in clear, sunny weather with full calm. To fight in any other weather is immoral, as it violates the human right to hit the target accurately. Violators of the law will be severely punished with a laser beam enveloping the terrain. Russia is hastily creating a counter-laser defense with the help of unparalleled mirrors.
      2. Gato
        Gato 8 May 2018 23: 28
        0
        Quote: Vkd dvk
        And keep your sight for a while. But it is to control the guidance mechanics within tenths of arc seconds. At the same time, keep the beam following the movement of the target and compensate for the pitching, which affects any marine vessel.

        So I am about the same. Muscle, vibration, atmospheric fluctuation. At one time, the Soviet Navy abandoned direct-acting laser weapons
        1. Gato
          Gato 8 May 2018 23: 31
          0
          5 km away

          At such a distance lasers?
  19. Dormidont
    Dormidont 5 May 2018 18: 13
    0
    What is the problem? Moor a floating nuclear power station to each Merikanin’s ship. Total and business.
  20. Berkut24
    Berkut24 5 May 2018 20: 57
    0
    Using Helios will free the U.S. fleet from having to store ammunition on board, the article says.

    Instead of ammunition, they will place a large storage capacitor in two compartments?
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  22. Mentat
    Mentat 6 May 2018 08: 12
    0
    Quote: Vard
    It seems ours have found a way how to deal with the arms race ... stealth ... YAK-141 ... now here are the lasers ... what else are there for the Americans to slip ...

    The Americans fell into the hands of a Soviet experimental vessel with a laser system from those shaggy times. They cannot calm down at all. They believe that this will work and fear that Russia will be ahead of them in the field of laser radiation for decades. Or just quietly sawing, which is much more likely.
    More than a year ago, he wrote here with arguments why it is impossible to bring down an artillery shell with a laser. The missile is actually even more complicated. With minimal modification - it is not at all possible. But, in my opinion, “advocates of Western superiority” here on the forum is all on the drum.
    1. farcop
      farcop 6 May 2018 08: 43
      0
      Quote: Mentat
      The Americans fell into the hands of a Soviet experimental ship with a laser installation of those shaggy times
      No, they were taken out in trunks when they molt on permanent residence.
  23. gippernano
    gippernano 6 May 2018 08: 38
    0
    Will they make a new movie about this prodigy? and it’s been the same thing for 15 years now. Here Reagan is handsome, he shot a whole cartoon about star wars, it’s still not a shame to show, but these losers are completely numb.
    The railgun was installed, now the laser guns are installed, and the Chinese are shooting down their planes with laser pointers in the meantime. Freaks Golems
  24. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 6 May 2018 09: 51
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Something simple, so as not to get confused smile :
    https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2015/09/german-rhei
    nmetall-shows-off-80.html
    The four 20 kilowatt HELs are designed to be fired simultaneously, in a technique known as superimposition. All four fire at a target at once, and Rheinmetall's technology combines them into a single powerful 80 kilowatt beam.
    Clear? Four 20 kW lasers are reduced to a target at one point.
    And not only the Germans know how to do this. The Americans and Israel have the same systems.


    Arrrrrhhhh! Again, Israel defeated everyone!
  25. SETTGF
    SETTGF 6 May 2018 17: 25
    0
    Dear strategists and the rest of the hedgehog with them, including us! Look carefully at the presentation by Israeli analyst Jacob Kedmi on the new Peresvet laser complex in Russia! Its insignificance will pleasantly surprise you! And do not write fables about the possibilities of laser weapons - it only at the beginning of its development has a lot of shortcomings!