Mega Contract. The whole truth about replacing Insas automatic rifles with AK-103 in the Indian Armed Forces

The Indian press, citing the leadership of the main military department, reports that over the next few days, the Indian Ministry of Defense will contact the Kalashnikov concern to supply the largest lot AK-103. It is noted that Russian-made automatic rifles will gradually replace assault rifles of the Indian manufacturer Insas in the Indian armed forces. These rifles began to be supplied to the Armed Forces of India in 1998 year. These rifles, to put it mildly, do not favor the Indian army, calling it a “surprise” for the reason that it can refuse at any moment even in ideal conditions.

The main reason for changing the main type of rifle weapons - favorable contract terms, the reliability of Kalashnikov assault rifles and the partial transfer of technologies for the acquisition of a license, on which the emphasis was placed in New Delhi.

The first batch of AK-103, which will be delivered to India, consists of 150 thousand units. After some time, if the parties comply with all the conditions of the contract, India will be able to produce about 600 thousands more weapons under the Kalashnikov assault rifle brand at its two factories - in Tiruchchirapalli and Ishapura.

In total, the contract implies the replacement of 768,5 thousand units of Insas automatic assault rifles.

Reported and additional agreement. India, moreover, is going to purchase from Russia or collect about 50 thousand Kalashnikov assault rifles for the Air Force and Navy of the country under its Russian license at its production facilities. It is noted that the program is being implemented as part of an extensive plan to re-equip the Indian army in the format “Made in India” with the involvement of modern foreign technologies.

The contract for the supply of AK-103 and the acquisition of a license to manufacture these machines in India was also discussed during the recent visit to Russia of the head of the Indian Ministry of Defense.

Comments

[NEXUS]

Oh, the Kalashnikov concern has got a lot of work ... and rightly so, the West should be squeezed out of this market.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: NEXUS

Oh, the Kalashnikov group of work piled ...

It’s good when work is and very bad when it is not. One “but”: the contract has not yet been signed.

[INVESTOR]

Why do gypsies need automatic machines?

[bouncyhunter]

Then, that your own Insasy sucks, although they were developed on the basis of AK.

[dr.star75]

Not really. 50 thousand will do ours, the remaining 500000 will be collected by the Indians themselves

[Muvka]

Quote: dr.star75

Not really. 50 thousand will do ours, the remaining 500000 will be collected by the Indians themselves

Actually, 150 thousand + 50 thousand

[yehat]

It's not just about the number of rifles. This is the use of cartridges, this is the adoption of standards. This is very good for Kalashnikov.

[Alex777]

Actually, 150 thousand + 50 thousand

Actually, 150 thousand + 600 thousand + 50 thousand
And then they will need a sea of ​​cartridges ...

[BVS]

And what can AK ammo only Russia do?

[strannik1985]

As far as I remember my production 7,62x39 they have.

[UAZ 452]

Quote: dr.star75
Not really. 50 thousand will do ours, the remaining 500000 will be collected by the Indians themselves
Actually, 150 thousand + 50 thousand

Where did you read this? It says here that 150 thousand and 600 thousand, respectively. And in general - licensed production provides royalties to the license holder.

[Alex777]

In the article, 150 thousand. In any case, production under a license is more profitable for us than riveting them from our samples for free, but with surprises.

[dr.star75]

Hindus will make AK with surprises? With holes in the barrel or with broken chips?

[RaptorF22]

Better see surprise ak 103 from Izhevsk mount gunsmiths on the Hansa

[ispaniard]

How many Indians did not jerk with their "rifles" returned to the AKM-AK103, perfected to perfection ... It is both correct and expected for such a large army and even in completely different climatic zones (from the harsh Himalayas to the tropics around the Ganges) AK103 is the most best and proven weapon. Suppose their special forces are supplied with SCARS or TURVs, but for the main part of the aircraft, Kalashnikov 103. I think the Indians will have the same thing with tanks and they will prefer our T-90 M to their Dancing Arjun, and with a 5th generation fighter they will also return to Russia a deal Well, WHO ELSE IN THE WORLD will cooperate with India in the field of a 5th generation fighter, USA, CHINA ??? Yeah ...)))

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: dr.star75

Not really. 50 thousand will do ours, the remaining 500000 will be collected by the Indians themselves

Our Kalash, the best .. There is a serious check on the quality of steel trunks, etc. !
And everyone else ..

[CAT BAIYUN]

With all my heart, plus .... Epic video! I’m embarrassed to ask: is there no accidental video of a monkey with a grenade?

[novel66]

no one survived during the shooting

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: KOT BYUN

but there is no accidental video of a monkey with a grenade?

There is .... For solvent citizens, you can 3 ...

[CAT BAIYUN]

There is .... For solvent citizens, you can 3 ...

Thank you very much!

[Nikolaevich I]

Contact if sho!

[Siberia M 54]

no with a grenade, there is a mine. As an option!)))

[dr.star75]

our Kalash are the most Kalash Kalash in the whole world! In India, steel production is at its best, the quality of the metal of their Kalash will be at least no worse.

[Alex777]

Have you read the article before commenting?

Hindus will make AK with surprises? With holes in the barrel or with broken chips?

Insas - this is crafts (copies from AK) with surprises. And now for the normal money will receive AK.

[dr.star75]

And why will they be normal? They both did their own beaten, and our Kalash can do beaten, with "surprises", and what is the benefit to us? Although steelmakers in India are good, why "g" weapons are made, it is not clear

[Alex777]

Now they are not doing everything for free. This is elementary ...

[Separ DNR]

Quote: dr.star75

In India, steel production is at its best, the quality of the metal of their Kalash will be at least no worse.

[Dead duck]

Quote: MIKHAN

Our Kalash, the best ..

This is until the Indians began to collect

[bouncyhunter]

R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ Ehidno, but true!

[Dead duck]

Paul
Which itself (I), such and true

[bouncyhunter]

I respect the character! And the Indians, if they themselves begin to rivet the AK-103, it will be the same as with the Su-30.

[demo]

More and more convinced that blacks descended from monkeys.
(This is not racism. This is a logical conclusion.)

[Incvizitor]

So that's how Obama armed “Ukraine”

[Zaurbek]

C collected by the Indians, too, a penny drip and the license costs money. Well, it’s good that they bought from us, and not from Israel. As the Vietnamese did.

[ARES623]

Quote: dr.star75

Not really. 50 thousand will do ours, the remaining 500000 will be collected by the Indians themselves

What about royalties? This, in general, is money on a brand without costs ...

[Non liberoid Russian]

in fact, license fees are not a penny so ... from 10 to 20% of the cost of the product comes ... it all depends on the contract ... and Sechinov is not a bug to give a license for free, it can freeze a contract at any time

[72jora72]

the remaining 500000 will be collected by the Indians themselves

Of our components. And the fact that the Indians do it with their own hands does not fly a bit, does not shoot a little and does not drive a bit, in the end they will buy ready-made machines from us.

[Alber]

Quote: dr.star75

Not really. 50 thousand will do ours, the remaining 500000 will be collected by the Indians themselves

Hindus are still traders. Well, they’re doing the right thing.
It is only our figures who distribute their modern technologies to the Chinese, the Indians ...

[Bar1]

in general, a strong step is changed not just a rifle on a machine gun, but even a caliber for an insas caliber 5,56-45


and the ak103 has a caliber of 7.62-39

7.62 caliber returns, protection of bulletproof vests apparently increased, it was necessary to increase carcass. But ak103 is morally obsolete there is no way to put bells and whistles, the butt is old, they will probably be finalized, so we are waiting for the Indians to munch, that they need to be finalized, they themselves can not or the Jews will be invited.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

What is outdated there? There is a mount for any sight - a dovetail, and it’s much more reliable than mounting it on the receiver, in time the receiver will play any sight you can’t put on it ... And the plastic covers - the forend and the gas pipe can easily be exchanged for those with straps picatini and other nonsense ...

[Bar1]

in these pictures I do not see that there are any mounts.

[voyaka uh]

Dovetail requires periodic gun targeting.
The sight is gradually shifting.

[Vladimirsky]

Quote: voyaka uh

Dovetail requires periodic gun targeting.

ANY normally operated weapon requires periodic (control) sightings. And after 2-3 released stores I even shot, but not - the accuracy is not the same.

[RASKAT]

I think soon it is worth waiting for a contract for the PKK and later for the Kalashnikov machine gun.
And there you look and the DShK will be replaced by a cliff.
Here it fell so hard workers fell.

[l7yzo]

What a job - they bought a license for the production of their own hands. Like China at one time. And 150 thousand barrels are not yet a fact that they were produced at a plant in the Russian Federation.

[Saint George]

And where else can the Russian AK be produced? Do you want to say Russia itself does not produce automatic machines for itself? So this is nonsense. You need to stop drinking.

[antiexpert]

tormented by vague doubts that the Indians also plan to sharpen Kalash left, which the Barmalei will pop up later)))

[RUSS]

Quote: antiexpert

tormented by vague doubts that the Indians also plan to sharpen Kalash left, which the Barmalei will pop up later)))

The barmaley will already have everything that they need pop up, there are "friends" who will throw everything.

[Pereira]

100% will start to be huckster. But this does not scare me. It scares me, the thought that our lawyers will not take this into account when concluding a contract.

[RUSS]

Quote: Pereira

Contract

So in the article it is written that the Indians receive a production license, and therefore they can be huckster.

[alexmach]

Yes, actually it depends on the license. As I understand it, they have the right to produce 600 thousand barrels and do whatever they want with them, even if they only take arms for themselves.

[Pereira]

Yes, but you can register the profit sharing when selling in 3 countries.

[Graz]

one hundred pounds it will be so, several machines will be riveted under one serial number

[Alexey RA]

Quote: andrej-shironov

Aha ha ha! Another fake! Subjunctive mood again! Again somersaults-gambits of Putin! Again Yuri Selivanov and Co.

Actually, the dances and songs around Insas in India have been going on since 1999. Things even reached the creation of a parliamentary commission to investigate the situation with the production of modern small arms in India. The first tender to replace this miracle was launched in 2011 - and was canceled in 2015. Ours was not on it. Then the Indians considered different options for replacing Insas with other national products ... but in the process of creating alternatives, they even managed to use AKM as a basis to issue a buggy product at the output.

[andrej-shironov]

Alexey, I know all this very well. I mean, many here give out wishful thinking and achievements of power. There is nothing worse than horses from power.

[Saint George]

And it seems to me that your head is not in order, you are everywhere looking for a mention of power. You are already dreaming of politics.

[vovanpain]

Quote: andrej-shironov

Again somersaults-gambits of Putin! Again Yuri Selivanov and Co.

Andrei, ride better on barbecue and sing revolutionary songs with brandy. With the slogans you have, well, not that today. Again Putin and Yuri Selivanov But they’re all right here, you see, negotiations are between the Kalashnikov concern (Putin and Selivanov are not members of it) and the Indians. Who the hell is with whom.

Quote: andrej-shironov

Nothing has happened yet

I agree that negotiations are going on with the Indians, you will turn gray more than once.

Quote: andrej-shironov

and most likely will not happen

We won’t vang. We will see.

Quote: andrej-shironov

and already they give out for achievement!

What about the intentions?

[andrej-shironov]

Waldemar, you better go. You have been everywhere and there’s nowhere to even send you. By the way, where did you see Putin here? Valdemar, admit your name is Yuri Selivanov.

[vovanpain]

Quote: andrej-shironov

You’ve been everywhere and there’s nowhere to send you

Where he was, you were not there, and you would not have taken there the politicians are not an example to you slogans did not push, bald well eaten up, but also served, God forbid

Quote: vovanpain

Quote: andrej-shironov
Again somersaults-gambits of Putin!

Your quote? Or if your first comment is deleted, there are no traces Well, I understand, you're one smart. The rest came to smoke.

Quote: andrej-shironov

Valdemar, admit your name is Yuri Selivanov.

What a mania do you have to cross Roman in Valentin, Vladimir in Yuri, got excited with cognac, it’s better to go to barbecue with songs.

[andrej-shironov]

Where you were, you weren’t there, and the political leaders wouldn’t have taken laughs unlike you, you didn’t push slogans;

So are you already bald?

Or if your first comment is deleted, there is no trace left wink, well, I understand that you are one smart one. The rest have come to smoke.

Well, I'm not so naive, I made a screenshot to people who were interested, well, you understand.

What kind of mania do you have to cross laughing Roman in Valentine, Vladimir in Yuri, got excited with cognac, it’s better to go to barbecue with songs. laughing

And what is your mania to read completely without understanding the meaning of the post?

[vovanpain]

Quote: andrej-shironov

So are you already bald?

Yes, I'm shaggy, shaggy, gray-haired, that's just it. until the end were unable to eat the Mazuriks, the politicians.

Quote: andrej-shironov

Well, I'm not so naive, I made a screenshot to people who were interested

Avona how wisely, you will not say anything, people will be satisfied.

Quote: andrej-shironov

And what is your mania to read completely without understanding the meaning of the post?

Yes, I don’t understand like born Vladimir. became Yuriy.nu Andrey if it’s so convenient for you

[Patriot5000]

India still does not know what to throw out, then it will say there was nothing.
By the way, is the cartridge for their rifle compatible or what?

ps I myself will answer with the INSAS NATO standard cartridge. also stamp ammunition. Although if the stock since the old ...

[LMN]

Quote: Patriot5000

India still does not know what to throw out, then it will say there was nothing.
By the way, is the cartridge for their rifle compatible or what?

ps I myself will answer with the INSAS NATO standard cartridge. also stamp ammunition. Although if the stock since the old ...

There labor force .. mom do not cry. There will be something to occupy the population))

[Egorovich]

The assembly, from the finished spare parts for Kalashnikov assault rifles, the Indians will pull, but manufacture under license is not. Neither they are the first nor they are the last. Many wanted to produce, but no one reached a 100% analogue.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Egorovich

The assembly, from the finished spare parts for Kalashnikov assault rifles, the Indians will pull, but manufacture under license is not. Neither they are the first nor they are the last. Many wanted to produce, but no one reached a 100% analogue.

But why. Bulgarian AKs are of quite decent quality, for example.

[Egorovich]

Good doesn’t mean excellent.

[Black_Vatnik]

I doubt that the Bulgarian AK were of decent quality.
Yugoslav outposts - yes, the GDR Kalashoids - again yes, they still walk with bearded men and are respected. But not the Bulgarian clones.

[Wolka]

the snout is up, get crazy, at least don't get crazy, but India needs to get ready for war ... Pakistan has stirred and the Chinese are not sleeping ...

[Mikhail m]

the reliability of Kalashnikov assault rifles and partial transfer of technology for the acquisition of a license

The devil is in the details. Whoever in the world of Kalash does, ours is still more reliable. As if the Indians, out of their habit, a little later, when they began to rivet their own, howl did not raise that they threw a bad weapon.

[Pereira]

But it will be interesting for me to compare Indian Kalashi with Chinese.

[RUSS]

Quote: Pereira

But it will be interesting for me to compare Indian Kalashi with Chinese.

So the Indian will be better only because the hundredth series.

[Patriot5000]

There is a video on the network comparing ak and m4. but drum shops were inserted into AK. in m4 standard. AK won about 900 shots, against 800 in m4. M4 flowed, plastic stack. Aka was dismantled, bent in the right direction and again shot. although AK was kind of Polish.

another case, the colonel told us. The conscript with a machine gun somehow escaped to Germany and threw his lake. searched for a year. but found. and he shot.

[dr.star75]

If you are talking about a video from YouTube, then there M16 not much less shot our Kalash.

[Mountain shooter]

Good contract. And the deductions - “royalties” from the licensed production will also receive money ... And then the Kalash Chinese, Bulgarian and what not there - do not bring income to the country ...

[Tank hard]

What is the caliber of rifle (automatic) weapons in the arsenal of India - 5,56x45 or 7,62x39?

[Patriot5000]

5,56x45 NATO, although their rifles still use a 5,56 × 30 mm pistol cartridge

[Tank hard]

Yeah, that means this caliber (5,56x45 NATO) will be changed. Then not 103, but 101, probably ...

[Tarasve]

Quote: Michael m

the reliability of Kalashnikov assault rifles and partial transfer of technology for the acquisition of a license

The devil is in the details. Whoever in the world of Kalash does, ours is still more reliable. As if the Indians, out of their habit, a little later, when they began to rivet their own, howl did not raise that they threw a bad weapon.

Well, at the expense of Kalash, no one can say that a bad weapon

[andron-30]

what to say only yes

[Patriot5000]

Quote: TarasVE

Well, at the expense of Kalash, no one can say that a bad weapon

Well, no one says. If only they would take it from us, otherwise they will twist their tail and order it in the middle of nowhere, then they themselves will modernize and it is not known what will happen

[CAT BAIYUN]

Hindus can at the very last moment throw some kind of fortune in order to reduce the cost or change the conditions ... Slippery comrades - just like .. Well, I can’t pick up an epithet beautiful
Well, the trend is positive .... Contract, money, service staff, name, quality, an example for graduates .... All one to one.

[NikolaiN]

Enlighten me, the dark one, AK 103 - is he chambered for 7,62 * 39?

[Patriot5000]

look at wikipedia about machines of the hundredth series
AK-103 7,62 × 39 mm Soviet cartridge of the sample 1943
AK-101 5,56 × 45 mm (NATO standard SS109)
I think who wrote the article did not bother. As always.

[Tank hard]

Apparently 101 under 5,56x45 NATO, for the transition to the "new caliber" is very expensive, but maybe someone knows better.

[the47th]

The most interesting thing is that the Indians are changing the main army cartridge from 5,56 * 45 mm to 7,62 * 39 mm. It’s not for nothing. The contract is likely to be signed, because no one will provide their army with so many assault rifles under the M43 cartridge (China now makes, basically, only civilian versions of the AK, and mostly under .223, and Arsenal is too small a desk to handle such a volume, the Outpost in general, no one is seriously considering).

[Tank hard]

If they switch to a different caliber, then how rich they are !!

[Patriot5000]

will not cross over. nevertheless, 5,56 can logically carry more with you than 7.62.

[the47th]

And why is AK-103 featured in all sources (in some already under the cartridge 7,62 * 51 mm)? Maybe, after all, low-pulse cartridges do not quite justify themselves? We also refused, refused the M43, but AEK and AK were adopted for both calibers.

[dr.star75]

Perhaps some shortcomings of little pulse cartridges surfaced.

[Tank hard]

I wonder what, in comparison with 7,62x51 NATO, for example?

[dr.star75]

7.62x51 main cartridge of NATO from the 50s, after switching to a low-pulse cartridge: 5.56x45, it remained only for sniper rifles and machine guns. Do not confuse 7.62x51 (308) with 5.56x45 (223) and our "Orthodox 7.62x39. Although many consider it" Orthodox "7.62x54.

[Tank hard]

What are the disadvantages revealed, low-pulse cartridges? Regarding 7,62x51, there were rumors about the use in Afghanistan of m-14 rifles and modifications of m-16 (ar-15), under this cartridge, by the US armed forces. This was due, they say, to the terrain and the increased distance to the target. But I did not hold a candle.

[dr.star75]

As far as I can imagine the characteristics of cartridges 223 and 308, I can assume that (just don’t throw slippers, I’m not a gunsmith), that 223 having better flatness at a relatively short distance of 100-300m, then sharply loses energy and flatness, as a result of which the bullet bites down. 308 is more inert, having a slightly worse flatness at 100-300m, after which it saves more energy and less pecks, winning in the long distance

[Tank hard]

And you, in general, shot at a distance of more than 100 meters, and even in the "dynamics", many hit the target? I’ve not seen very well the target over 100 meters, and even get into it in motion, and even the target is moving, and even adrenaline, the sounds are different ... But sniping is a little different.

[l7yzo]

M43, better known as 7,62x39
“The first AKs — AK47 and AKM, as well as Simonov carbines of the 1945 model (SKS), RPK light machine guns, Saiga family hunting rifles and other models of military and civilian weapons fired this cartridge. This cartridge was then Now it’s an excellent ammunition specifically for mass military weapons of the army, for war.The cartridge 7,62x39 in this regard is an order of magnitude better than the domestic 5,45x39, which is used by almost all of today's small arms ammunition. 5,56h45 throne. "

and it’s also possible why this version is
"Noteworthy is the latest model of the" hundredth "series - AK103-3, which is, in fact, the beginning of the" two-hundredth "series of AK. Caliber - 7,62x39 mm, metric parameters similar to AK103, weight slightly larger. The shape of the pistol grip is changed to more convenient, the fuse is duplicated by a button.A Picatinny rail (for attaching various sights) is mounted on the top of the receiver cover of a different type of fixation, there are also “rails” on the fore-end (for flashlights, a pilot lamp, front handles, etc.). handguard folding bipod. "

[Tank hard]

Quote: l7yzo

The cartridge 7,62x39 in this regard is an order of magnitude better than the domestic 5,45x39, which is used by almost all of today's army small arms. Also, this cartridge, as the main army ammunition, is superior to the 5,56x45 NATO cartridge. "

This is not the first time I'm trying to find out WHAT THE SAME cartridge 7,62x39 is better than the cartridges 5,45x39 or 5,56x45 ??! Specifically! Actually! Common words and phrases are not interesting. Justifications that 7,62x39 "breaks the rail", and 5,45x39 - does not break, are insolvent, because yes, 5,45x39 "breaks the rail", and very confident. "Escaping from the trajectory from obstacles, such as a shrub" - is also not a justification. In the "thickets" both calibers do not show miracles.

[Tank hard]

God knows. AEK is an ancient development, "Nikonov" AN - 94 "Abakan", it seems it was not very bad, but the caliber is less, I do not know the reason for choosing AEK. In general, I do not see the benefits of a larger caliber. But I do not consider myself an expert in this ...

[Okolotochny]

AEK is both 5,45 and 7,62. Now both calibers are being adopted.

[Tank hard]

Apparently they considered AEK more suitable, they know better.

[APASUS]

The fact that our machines buy it is certainly good, but why do not they need a license! For normal quality, it is necessary that every Indian would have an engineer standing on the conveyor belt and beating hands, I'm not talking about incoming quality control of the supplied metal.
They sold them Su and the Indians themselves admit that their aircraft are worse than the build quality than their own. And so the Indians in many ways

[demiurg]

Hindus and packs compete, who will order more weapons in Russia? If these two news are true, it will be very good, and very bad. Of course, nothing shines for Pakistan now in the war with India (completely different levels of economic development) But who knows how China will behave, and whether they will wave a nuclear club.

[Rav Rav]

They will whine to the last, in the end: give it, give it, give it for free. I do not believe !!!

[Vladimir K.]

Great news!!! Both parties will benefit from this deal (if it takes place - we are talking about plans so far).

[Totah155]

Insas is really rubbish.
AK was there a few years ago.
And cool PTRs from South Africa.
Is Special Forces still using Tavors?

[Evil 55]

Well, to increase the chances of a fighter’s survival, they will still have to buy our dry packs and remember the hatred of the killers and the colonialists ..

[Pimply]

With the Hindus, deliveries have not begun yet, you can calmly ignore all reports on any contracts - this is a long story in the spirit of Indian cinema, which is always accompanied by songs, dances, but in the end it may end up being everyone to be brothers and sisters, therefore, they will not buy machines, or they will buy another firm

[23rus]

Vibrated - selected, selected. And they wanted AK47.

[bogart047]

then Indian Kalash crawl around the world, which fall apart after 100 shots. Here, ***, the advertisement will be for the brand ...

[Olegovi4]

Quote: bogart047

advertising will be a brand ..

it’s advertising - do you want a normal weapon? take from Kalashnikov, not from the Bulgarians / Indians and further down the list

[Doliva63]

I wonder why the “gypsies" chose 7,62x39?

[Chever]

Chet Indians can not at all into weapons. Then Tejas filed with this, now they refuse from INSAS ...

True, I do not understand why they want 7,62x39, the same INSAS under 223 is made. Could look at the AK-101, it is just under the same cartridge is made ...

[l7yzo]

Tank hard,

Specifically, the bullet is longer and thinner. It’s like a plane beyond the sound - it is thin and long. This gives more balance, fewer times the balancer during the flight, the flight range and the force of the impact. In case of damage due to the force of a smaller thickness - additional breakdown force. According to this size and the military.
But for specialists there is less bullet and thicker - there is a close battle. More compactness is needed. Shorter bullets - less horn - less seat of the horn, less feeder and then, less weapon itself. But they are long-range - braids and weak.