Moscow is delivering a critical blow to the capabilities of the US Air Force: what will research of surviving missiles reveal?

We are all well aware of the fact that the main goal of an attempt to deliver a massive missile and missile-air strike of the United Navy and Air Force of the Western coalition to the strategically important facilities of the Syrian Arab Army, which took place early in the morning of April 14, was not to destroy non-existent institutions and enterprises to develop and large-scale production of gaseous chlorine and sarin (what the West unreasonably blamed Damascus a couple of weeks ago). It was a banal test of the defense system of the Syrian “umbrella” of the missile defense system, which is a kind of “miniature” of the Russian military air defense (SV air defense) due to the presence in the armament of the Buk-M2E medium-range anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as short-range anti-aircraft missile and artillery systems. Armor-С1 ".

At the same time baptism of fire in the face of opposition from promising air defense systems from Russian developers of the Research Institute "Instrument Engineering named after V.V. Tikhomirov and the Instrument Design Bureau, JSC tried to pass the most modern French and British tactical long-range missiles SCALP-EG, SCAL Naval, Storm Shadow, and also the state AGM-158B JASSM-ER, the total percentage of which was 37%, while TLAM-C / D and UGM / RGM-109E modifications accounted for 63% for Tomahawks. Anyway, all parties without exception received their dividends from this blow. Thus, the administration of the current US President Donald Trump was able, at least temporarily, to tighten the previously lost rating both among the “hawks” from her republican electorate and among the “hawks” from the democratic camp of opponents. In fact, the administration kept its promise - the strike attempt was implemented. By the US and Western European media, this attempt was presented as a successful military action, while in reality everything was radically the opposite.

The Buk-M2E, Pantsir-S1, C-125 Pechora-2M Cube, As well as Osa-AKM and Strela-10 intercepted air defense missile systems of the Syrian Arab Republic, which are in service with the air defense forces of the Syrian Arab Republic. 68% (71 from 105) of tactical and strategic cruise missiles of the OMVS and OVVS of the coalition, which was confirmed both by the Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Colonel-General Sergei Rudskiy, and by numerous eyewitnesses living in the vicinity of Damascus, Shairata, Dumeira, Duvali and Blea who watched dozens in splashes of exploding anti-aircraft missiles in the sky, and then fragments of air attack weapons on the surface. Among these debris were fragments of the corps of the destroyed long-range tactical missiles SCALP-EG and SCALP Naval, developed by the French division of the MBDA France corporation, which is also captured in photographs of local residents and military personnel. Such a brilliant result further increased the attractiveness of Russian defense enterprises in the eyes of customers such as Serbia, Greece, Egypt, Iran, India, and, naturally, brought the image of the Russian Federation in the arms market to a whole new level.

An event of strategic importance can be considered the delivery to the Russian Federation of surviving strategic Tomahawk cruise missiles of the latest RGM-109E “Tomahawk Block IV” modification, and possibly the unobtrusive AGM-158A / B JASSM-ER tactical cruise missiles. Apparently, we are talking about products, the body and on-board radio-electronic equipment of which were minimally damaged in the process of interception by anti-aircraft guided missiles 9М330М of Osa-AKM and 9М333 complexes of Strela-10М3. The combat units of the latter weigh the entire 5 and 15 kg, respectively, therefore, mainly aerodynamic planes, including the wing and tail aerodynamic rudders, were damaged. The preservation of missiles can be associated with the failure of the onboard systems of missiles. The question arises: where can surviving copies of American cruise missiles go first?

Obviously, this is the Central Research Institute of Aerospace Defense Forces (Central Research Institute VVKO), located in the Tver region, in which full-size mock-ups, as well as real prototypes (as in our present case) of Western European and American means of air attack, are being tested for such parameters like:

- effective scattering surface / effective reflecting surface (EPR or EOC) in the meter, decimeter, centimeter and millimeter wavelengths, both against the background of airspace and against the underlying surface, taking into account natural passive interference due to reflections from terrain objects;
- laser-location parameters of targets, determined by the albedo (reflectivity) of laser radiation in the visible optical range;
- spectral characteristics of the reflecting surface in the optical range, allowing, for example, to accurately determine the range of direction finding of an aircraft using the 10EC1-E optical-electronic module, which is part of the Pantsir-C1 anti-aircraft missile and artillery system.

Despite the fact that at the disposal of the specialists of the Central Research Institute VVKO, the JASSM / JASSM-ER rocket model has been in place for several years, it was impossible to accurately determine its ESR (which ranges from 0,01 to 0,1 sq. M) due to the lack of information on the radio absorbing materials and coatings. Now, after conducting a physicochemical analysis of the materials of the American Raytheon missile corps, they will be able to clearly recreate their prototypes that are identical in radar signature. The infrared signature will also be known, which experts will be able to determine thanks to a detailed study of the nozzle geometry, as well as the composition of fuel residues for the Teledyne CAE J402 turbofans, from which the energy and thermodynamic properties of the combustion products will be calculated. The next stage of testing state-owned rockets or full-size mock-ups can be passing measurements in an anechoic chamber to build even more accurate EPR diagrams that cannot be affected by any third-party radiation source with a frequency range up to 40 GHz. Tests on this end.

Their most important stage will be the study of the algorithms of the on-board radio-electronic equipment of JASSM-ER missiles, in particular, the inertial navigation system, as well as the transmitting module of the stability of the trajectory and confirmation of the BIA target (Bomb Impact Assestment) using a head infrared sensor. The JASSM-ER flight trajectory loaded on the ANN will provide our specialists with comprehensive information on the tactics of the US Air Force strikes taking into account the terrain, and will also allow you to find out which positional areas of Syria’s air defense were not detected in advance by RC-135W “Rivet Joint” airborne reconnaissance aircraft.

Also of great interest are methods of encrypting data packets sent by the powerful BNA 25-watt transmitter aboard the Rivet Joint. The moment of the inclusion of this module on the march section of the trajectory is also important, which will help calculate the location of the AGM-158A / B rocket long before it can be detected using the A-50U aircraft. The range of operation of an infrared sensor located in an optical-transparent window on the bottom surface of the JASSM-ER fairing can also be determined. Due to this, it will be possible to develop efficient infrared traps with satisfying spectral characteristics. Similar studies will be conducted on the newest version of Tomahawk RGM-109E.

Conclusion: with 100% certainty, we can say that after studying the Central Research Institute of Higher Military Command and other defense institutions of the Russian Federation, the process of detecting, tracking and intercepting the above types of cruise missiles using aviation Air defense, ground anti-aircraft missile systems of the Aerospace Forces of Russia, as well as military air defense will be carried out more quickly and at times more efficiently. Raytheon will need hundreds of millions of dollars and several years of work to regain the lost level of technology secrecy on the JASSM / -ER and Tomahawk Block IV projects. All this is true for the French SCALP-EG / Naval missiles, adjusted only for a different guidance system architecture.Read more...

Information sources:
http://www.mk.ru/politics/2018/04/19/umnye-rakety-trampa-dostavili-v-rossiyu-voennye-sekrety-ssha-raskryty.html
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/agm158/agm158.shtml
https://cont.ws/@su-47/910970

Comments

[Uncle lee]

more quickly and significantly more efficiently

Even in the raid you can find the positive side!
Let our bespectacled players dig deeper into these rackets ....

[Chertt]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Even in the raid you can find the positive side!

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target. There is no talk of shot down or missed missiles. And this is said by authoritative (Western) military and politicians. Russia needs to start showing evidence. And then we look in the west, since May and Johnson look in Russia. those. balabolami

[_Sergei_]

Russia needs to start showing evidence.

This will not help. They want to believe that the missiles have all flown, nothing can convince them otherwise.

[Chertt]

Quote: _Sergey_

This will not help. They want to believe that all missiles have flown, nothing will convince them otherwise

If we show evidence, then many in Russia (and myself) will be calmer that our Military and Diplomats are not Western talkers, and you can trust their words

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Chertt

many in Russia (and myself) will be calmer

You confuse diplomacy and politics (purely non-public things at its core) with Soloviev’s talk show. IMHO in vain.
And will you be calmer or not - this is, in fact, not even the ninth priority in the activities of the Defense Ministry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. For your peace of mind there is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and this is quite enough.
Somehow

[Chertt]

Quote: Golovan Jack

You confuse diplomacy and politics (purely non-public things at the core) with Soloviev’s talk show.

About that and talk. If with the military and politicians in the west, everything is less or less clear, then from the Russian military I would like a responsible attitude to the statements

[Golovan Jack]

I probably did not quite express myself clearly. Once again, by division:
The last thing that the Foreign Ministry and the Ministry of Defense think about is the plebs reaction to their actions and statements.
To stop this reaction (if any) there is a Ministry of Internal Affairs, the press, etc.
"I want to know everything" is a childhood illness. Which, however, does not always and not at all pass in a timely manner.
All

[Chertt]

Well, let me try to explain to you.
Why do "multi-star" generals appear on TV with unsubstantiated statements, What would a dummy say to a maximum audience?

They do not have your unrealized complex that would try to attract attention at any cost.
There is a desire to understand the logic.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Chertt

Why do "multi-star" generals appear on TV with unsubstantiated statements

I have no idea. Perhaps this is a puncture (s), the one who does nothing is not mistaken. And maybe - part of some kind of incomprehensible game to me.
You see ... I treat all this as a kind of "black box", because in another way - nothing: the state will never be completely open to, um, Citizens.
And that is normal.

Quote: Chertt

your complex unrealized

Have fun really
Okay ... I’ll probably go to work ... to self-actualize. And then there again that thread will fall (also, by the way - that is still a black box ... like any other large system, however), and they will begin to search for me with dogs.
And you continue, ahem ... to shine, I will drive to a computer - I read with interest

[Cube123]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Chertt

Why do "multi-star" generals appear on TV with unsubstantiated statements

I have no idea. Perhaps this is a puncture (s), the one who does nothing is not mistaken. And maybe - part of some kind of incomprehensible game to me.
You see ... I treat all this as a kind of "black box", because in another way - nothing: the state will never be completely open to, um, Citizens.
And that is normal.

The problem is not openness to the Citizens. Today, such openness is openness to the enemy. Any publicly voiced information settles in other people's databases. And it’s impossible to deal with it. Therefore, it is necessary to filter information even for internal use.

And as regards the speeches of the generals - why should they confirm their statements? They are not in court and are not required to prove anything publicly. For evidence, there are completely different structures. The main thing is that they do not lie to the authorities of the country. And public speaking has completely different tasks.

[Mestny]

I totally agree.
The question for an ordinary citizen is actually a simple one - to whom does he believe more. To your own or a stranger.
And "the whole truth" should not be told by either side. Which is happening.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Chertt

Well, let me try to explain to you.

Now I will try to explain to you on the fingers.
Remember how Powers was shot down on May 1? And for how long our people were silent, they were waiting for the moment when “Peacock” would open its tail and sing a song, “Peacock” was also waiting for messages from our media, because “Peacocks” were sure that Powers had died or committed suicide. But no, he turned out to be alive, and ruined the whole song. So sometimes SILENCE is GOLD.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Golovan Jack

"I want to know everything" is a childhood illness. Which, however, does not always and not at all pass in a timely manner.

the cost of overeating "democracy" !!!

[gsev]

You think incorrectly about the leadership of Russia. A few years before the Ukrainian Maidan, the Russian government decided to ban the communist ideology, as they did in Ukraine a few years later. But first, they conducted a study of the public opinion of Russians on the possibility of these actions. This sociological study can be considered a reference for the applied mathematical apparatus, the organization of sociological sampling and other subtleties of sociology, mathematics and programming. They came to the conclusion that since the beginning of perestroika, the attitude to the ideas of communism has not changed in any population groups that are different in age, well-being, social status, and education. And unlike the Ukrainian authorities, they decided not to go against the people. The result Poroshenko expressed a desire to remove even Savchenko, and Putin’s opponents in Russia were supported by a couple of percent of the population. The common people are not stupid, every day since 1991 he successfully solves the difficult task of his survival and corrects the mistakes of his rulers with his labor and wisely.

[Mountain shooter]

The enemy should be kept in the dark for as long as possible ... If strong - show that you are weak, if weak - show that you are strong (Sun Ji). Why should our people show and prove something? Those who need it know. Both there and here. proof of the effectiveness of our systems is the turn of customers ...

[freddyk]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Chertt

many in Russia (and myself) will be calmer

You confuse diplomacy and politics (purely non-public things at its core) with Soloviev’s talk show. IMHO in vain.
And will you be calmer or not - this is, in fact, not even the ninth priority in the activities of the Defense Ministry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. For your peace of mind there is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and this is quite enough.
Somehow

If this were so, then the MO would not broadcast every day in the form of reports on TV. IMHO, you are wrong, the public opinion is very important to the Kremlin and they try to influence it in every possible way. Another thing is that they are getting worse and worse, so the evidence would not hurt. Moreover, we ourselves always demand them.

[anykin]

You about MO and you about the Kremlin.

[freddyk]

Does the MO in itself exist? His direct work is protecting the interests of the Kremlin

Quote: anykin

You about MO and you about the Kremlin.

[Mestny]

Its direct task is to complete military tasks in its entirety.
"Protecting the interests of the Kremlin" is for the slogan of "protest." on the square.

[Axon]

not as many as you would like

[97110]

Quote: Chertt

If we show evidence,

what prevents them from declaring this evidence null and void? Something arrogant Saxons will not heat up? With their experience and moral character?

[jjj]

And why should Russia prove something to someone. Who needs to know everything

[97110]

Quote: jjj

And why should Russia prove something to someone

And talk?

[Rey_ka]

What for? All progressive mankind, headed by the editorial board of Echo of Moscow, knows that there are no missiles in Moscow. Putin gives a piece of pipe with the insides of an old TV (trolling) as a rocket

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Chertt

If we show evidence, then many

It is necessary to demonstrate with wide coverage by the mass media: to invigorate your own and add strenuousness to others. Let the taxpayers ask them why they lie insolently.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Let the taxpayers ask them why they lie insolently.

the opinion of the lackeys does not interest anyone !!!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Let the taxpayers ask them why they lie insolently.

the opinion of the lackeys does not interest anyone !!!

Nicholas , I agree, the opinion of gallops is yes: nobody is interested. But “pack and present” the opinion of taxpayers correctly, there’s no work for Senora Zakharova and Co.

[Svarog]

"Moscow delivers a critical blow to the capabilities of the US Air Force:"

What a loud headline. Even funny

[Serge Gorely]

Quote: Chertt

Quote: _Sergey_

This will not help. They want to believe that all missiles have flown, nothing will convince them otherwise

If we show evidence, then many in Russia (and myself) will be calmer that our Military and Diplomats are not Western talkers, and you can trust their words

The main thing for us is not the faith of the western cattle electorate (Hollywood has already explained everything to them), the main thing is that the heads of intelligence of the countries that are potential buyers believe it.

[Semen1972]

Quote: _Sergey_

This will not help. They want to believe that the missiles have all flown, nothing can convince them otherwise.

And how do we continue to live with this ??????

[Cube123]

Quote: Semen1972

Quote: _Sergey_

This will not help. They want to believe that the missiles have all flown, nothing can convince them otherwise.

And how do we continue to live with this ??????

You need to live calmly. It is necessary to get rid of the slave psychology according to which you always need to prove something to the white master and fawn in front of him. The free man calmly expressed his opinion, and he did not care about the opinion of mongrels.

[Semen1972]

Quote: Cube123

Quote: Semen1972

Quote: _Sergey_

This will not help. They want to believe that the missiles have all flown, nothing can convince them otherwise.

And how do we continue to live with this ??????

You need to live calmly. It is necessary to get rid of the slave psychology according to which you always need to prove something to the white master and fawn in front of him. The free man calmly expressed his opinion, and he did not care about the opinion of mongrels.

There is no freedom! Liberalism and democracy are fake. Free man is a myth. I suggest one thing, surrender to our ruler, let him decide our fate. He is the chosen, the one and only. I believe only him. He is our master. And there is nothing wrong with that !!!!

[Mestny]

Could it be so ironic enough here?

[Rey_ka]

Well then, you need to do something with this, and then 8,5 tons of explosives flew into the chemical center and there’s not even a foundation pit

[Cananecat]

Something a joke was recalled ...
Amer is talking with Russian ...
A. We have publicity and democracy, I can go to the database, shout that Trump ... (gay) and I won’t have anything ...
R. Well, so I can also go to the CP and shout that Trump .... and neither will I ....
Is it really important for the generals in NATO to know exactly which missiles the Syrian air defense managed to land ... let them smash their heads what exactly we got.
The military-industrial complex of America lives from these launches, they sleep and see how they could even ask Congress to raise money for modernization ... and here we are with their missiles ... if we wanted to, they would have said and shown their toys in our Defense Ministry, but they are silent they are there for a reason.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Canecat

as if to beg more money from Congress for modernization ...

not for modernization, but for corruption !!!

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: _Sergey_

Russia needs to start showing evidence.

This will not help. They want to believe that the missiles have all flown, nothing can convince them otherwise.

And for what, one asks to prove? It’s enough that we learn something that was either not at all clear or was in doubt. After all, on the basis of this information, are we not going to punish France with bombing? Let them now worry about improving the self-destruction system.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Chertt

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target.

If before, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, in addition to missile launches, there were also pictures with hit targets, then this time there is nothing about the hit targets. And I’ve heard about the number of missiles from Western sources, but all the missiles have just hit everything. But there are pictures and videos of the debris of these missiles. If you really need, then you can search the network ...

[Totah155]

Quote: Fitter65

If before, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, in addition to missile launches, there were also pictures with hit targets, then this time there is nothing about the hit targets. And I’ve heard about the number of missiles from Western sources, but all the missiles have just hit everything. But the pictures and videos of the debris of these missiles

Google to help you
There are a large number of photos with hit targets (before and after the strike)
...one more thing. Do not limit yourself to a Russian-language search ...

[Bellerophon]

76 missiles per science center (6 buildings)? Here "Google" does not help ...))))) Here we need specialists of a specific profile. But for stubbornness - you set off. No, ZATESTCHE ...))))

[Mestny]

And this is their indispensable feature - to rest against the last.
The Russian proverb “to them even ss. In the eye - all God's dew” is about them.
Their diligent students in the United States use exactly the same method.
But, as soon as there is even the slightest danger of really scrubbing along the impudent erysipelas, an ecumenical universal cry from the series "But what for us?"

[andj61]

Quote: Totah155

Google to help you
There are a large number of photos with hit targets (before and after the strike)
...one more thing. Do not limit yourself to a Russian-language search ...

Quote: Bellerophon

76 missiles per science center (6 buildings)? Here "Google" does not help ...))))) Here we need specialists of a specific profile. But for stubbornness - you set off. No, ZATESTCHE ...))))

Two objects - as a result, under a dozen buildings - and is it 103 or 105 KR?
Moreover, in addition to the 6 buildings marked by Comrade Bellerophon, the remaining 3-4 are hangar-type buildings. All! No more other "destroyed" For some reason, he does not want to find Google objects, even in the language of a potential adversary. Apparently, again, Russian hackers are to blame for this!

[kipod]

Quote: andj61

Quote: Totah155

Google to help you
There are a large number of photos with hit targets (before and after the strike)
...one more thing. Do not limit yourself to a Russian-language search ...

Quote: Bellerophon

76 missiles per science center (6 buildings)? Here "Google" does not help ...))))) Here we need specialists of a specific profile. But for stubbornness - you set off. No, ZATESTCHE ...))))

Two objects - as a result, under a dozen buildings - and is it 103 or 105 KR?
Moreover, in addition to the 6 buildings marked by Comrade Bellerophon, the remaining 3-4 are hangar-type buildings. All! No more other "destroyed" For some reason, he does not want to find Google objects, even in the language of a potential adversary. Apparently, again, Russian hackers are to blame for this!

[kipod]

Quote: kipod

Quote: andj61

Quote: Totah155

Google to help you
There are a large number of photos with hit targets (before and after the strike)
...one more thing. Do not limit yourself to a Russian-language search ...

Quote: Bellerophon

76 missiles per science center (6 buildings)? Here "Google" does not help ...))))) Here we need specialists of a specific profile. But for stubbornness - you set off. No, ZATESTCHE ...))))

Two objects - as a result, under a dozen buildings - and is it 103 or 105 KR?
Moreover, in addition to the 6 buildings marked by Comrade Bellerophon, the remaining 3-4 are hangar-type buildings. All! No more other "destroyed" For some reason, he does not want to find Google objects, even in the language of a potential adversary. Apparently, again, Russian hackers are to blame for this!

that's just it. we see destroyed buildings - but downed missiles - no.
like by the way and not torn
on one side of the photo. - on the other only. the words
and whom do you command to believe?

[jjj]

Ask the Israeli authorities how the Syrians shot down five of the eight “invulnerable” Israeli missiles on the eve of the debate

[tlauicol]

Quote: jjj

Ask the Israeli authorities how the Syrians shot down five of the eight “invulnerable” Israeli missiles on the eve of the debate

and two days later another 12 Israeli missiles were shot down! with 100% efficiency!
true, then they admitted that there was a false alarm and they stupidly launched rockets that had no analogues in the world into the sky

[SETTGF]

Do not write nonsense and carefully read the news ... five of the eight missiles shot down for sure. And about the missiles that have no analogues in the world - then in the niche of these complexes, there really can be no analogues!

[NIKNN]

Quote: kipod

and whom do you command to believe?

Yes, you know, I’m on such a drum, you believe it or not ..., I think not only me, the boys are an exception from the circle of "Social Networks for Dummies" ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: kipod

Quote: kipod

Quote: andj61

Quote: Totah155

Google to help you
There are a large number of photos with hit targets (before and after the strike)
...one more thing. Do not limit yourself to a Russian-language search ...

Quote: Bellerophon

76 missiles per science center (6 buildings)? Here "Google" does not help ...))))) Here we need specialists of a specific profile. But for stubbornness - you set off. No, ZATESTCHE ...))))

Two objects - as a result, under a dozen buildings - and is it 103 or 105 KR?
Moreover, in addition to the 6 buildings marked by Comrade Bellerophon, the remaining 3-4 are hangar-type buildings. All! No more other "destroyed" For some reason, he does not want to find Google objects, even in the language of a potential adversary. Apparently, again, Russian hackers are to blame for this!

that's just it. we see destroyed buildings - but downed missiles - no.
like by the way and not torn
on one side of the photo. - on the other only. the words
and whom do you command to believe?

if you don’t know, then right now half of Syria consists of destroyed buildings !!!

[Mestny]

There is. There are photos of shot down missiles.
For yours, of course, this is not proof. Serve you all 73 pieces.
And the most important thing is this.
If there is a photograph of even one single missile shot down - this is enough to draw a conclusion about the lies of the USA, stating that ALL missiles have reached their goal.
And such a photograph is definitely there, you will not argue?
And whom do you command to believe?

[Fitter65]

Quote: Totah155

There are a large number of photos with hit targets (before and after the strike)
...one more thing. Do not limit yourself to a Russian-language search ...

And I will advise you, and not necessarily English. Where one and the same hangar from Shairat airbase with a half-burned jeep from all angles was shot, this is a normal result. Well, they even broke up the pharmaceutical workshop, let it be a chemical weapons production plant for your information. the consequences were to be if it were true? Even if a couple of tons of substances, after the blows of your friends breaks out of containers and storages, you imagine how many people should have died. Or, as a normal democrat, you decide that thousands of non-democrats will die, but will democracy prevail faster?
But as for the launches ... There has never been, not a single refutation on the number of missiles fired in Syria, so I believe in our media, and not your "independent" ...

[Rey_ka]

So we are talking about the same thing. 8,5 tons of explosives flew into the chemical center in Damascus. There should be a funnel in block 2, but no!

[G A_2]

Quote: Fitter65

Quote: Chertt

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target.

If before, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, in addition to missile launches, there were also pictures with hit targets, then this time there is nothing about the hit targets. And I’ve heard about the number of missiles from Western sources, but all the missiles have just hit everything. But there are pictures and videos of the debris of these missiles. If you really need, then you can search the network ...

No need to upload anything on the net. Some old photos

[Fitter65]

Quote: G A_2

No need to upload anything on the net. Some old photos

Well, yes, since the shelling of Belgrade. The fact that the Syrians are spreading this way also lacks faith. Well no, no, it's not my problem.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Chertt

Russia needs to start showing evidence

Of course it would be good, but there will not be much use from this. In an informal war, evidence is not as important as it is, what makes people believe.
As for trophy missiles, it’s not enough to study, we also need to use the data obtained in our systems, detection and target designation systems of different levels. The work is not as small as it might seem. We will not see the results of these works tomorrow. One thing is already visible today, this is the strengthening of Syria’s air defense by Pantsir-C1 complexes and possibly by Bukami and Torah ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Zarathustra

Why are you then asking for evidence from others?

I don’t ask, because I understand that I won’t hear the truth ...

[kipod]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Zarathustra

Why are you then asking for evidence from others?

I don’t ask, because I understand that I won’t hear the truth ...

at the same time - MO is certainly true

[NEXUS]

Quote: kipod

at the same time - MO is certainly true

Well, you believe your command, as your mother.

[Rey_ka]

I trust mom less. because she lives according to her own coordinate system and can easily lie if she considers that it will be better

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Zarathustra
Why are you then asking for evidence from others?
I don’t ask, because I understand that I won’t hear the truth ...

After the "evidence" that Salisbury is still composing on the go, or the one that was cited as a "fact" by Assad’s use of chemical weapons in the Duma, when the Western political establishment is hysterical about every occasion and is already claiming Russia's "upcoming" election the next president, somewhere, it’s not clear where, the meaning itself has disappeared to prove something from the word in general, after an ineffective dialogue with the deaf and blind opponents of the “civilized West”.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Zarathustra

You can not answer, everyone already knows.

So why wag your tongue?

I repeat for the orphans and the wretched

Quote: stalkerwalker

the meaning itself has disappeared to prove anything from the word in general, after an ineffective dialogue with the deaf and blind opponents of the "civilized West".

[Zarathustra]

Quote: stalkerwalker

Quote: Zarathustra

You can not answer, everyone already knows.

So why wag your tongue?

Whatever you answer as usual (because you have nothing to answer) and you are still convinced of this.

[stalkerwalker]

Everything...
I don’t feed trolls ...

[Zarathustra]

Quote: stalkerwalker

I repeat for the orphans and the wretched

Quote: stalkerwalker

the meaning itself has disappeared to prove anything from the word in general, after an ineffective dialogue with the deaf and blind opponents of the "civilized West".

Well, live in North Korea, is anyone against it?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Zarathustra

Well, live in North Korea, is anyone against it?

Well I said that I do not feed the trolls. Is it not clear?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zarathustra

Well, live in North Korea, is anyone against it?

have you been from North Korea for a long time ???

[Conserp]

Quote: Chertt

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target. There is no talk of shot down or missed missiles. And this is said by authoritative (Western) military and politicians.

For 50 years in a row they have been lying non-stop and hopelessly about everything that is possible.

They have such an Orwellian propaganda machine that Goebbels cries with bloody tears of envy.

For example, Mrs. Clinton in the next blah blah about the short barrel overestimated the number of "victims of weapons" in the United States by 25 thousand - and nothing, no one even squealed.

Quote: Chertt

Russia needs to start showing evidence.

To whom and where? Free and democratic Western media simply will not show them.

[Chertt]

Quote: Conserp

oh and where? Free and democratic Western media simply will not show them.

Firstly, it is necessary for Russian citizens to know that our military is responsible for their words.
And secondly, about the western audience. And there must be broadcast, the water wears away the stone. Not all there are headless

[Conserp]

Our military didn’t say anything for which it was necessary to “answer”

There’s nothing to broadcast there, and no one will give

65% of Americans are mentally retarded, another 20% are just dumb

[kipod]

Quote: Conserp

65% of Americans are mentally retarded, another 20% are just dumb

if you are so smart, why are you so poor?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: kipod

if you are so smart, why are you so poor?

Who told you that?
Filipinos, as well as other residents of the tropical and subtropical zones, living in climatic regions that do not require expensive funds to heat rooms that receive solar energy 350 days a year, when it is not required to use meat and butter in the diet, can allow you to live on 1-3 am.dollar per day.
If the promised land were to be found in the conditions of the Far North, no unfriendly environment from the Arab countries would have been required, so that the citizens of the neoplasm would again set off to wander the world for the next 40 years.

[Mstivoy]

And you are a scholar!

[stalkerwalker]

Thanks I know.

... let it sound immodest ....

[Spec]

Do you call life on credit wealth?

[G A_2]

Quote: Conserp

Our military didn’t say anything for which it was necessary to “answer”

There’s nothing to broadcast there, and no one will give

65% of Americans are mentally retarded, another 20% are just dumb

Is the portrait of Zadornov hanging at home?

[Conserp]

Yes, it’s Zadornov’s fault that the Americans believe in large numbers that the Earth is flat, the age of the Universe is 6 thousand years old, and they can read at the second-grader level.

[You Vlad]

Quote: Chertt

Firstly, it is necessary for Russian citizens to know that our military is responsible for their words.

Yes, we have evidence !!! And they (USA) demand to present them? All the information about what is happening in Syria is propaganda and counter-propaganda from both sides to advance our interests! I would like us to be more skilled in this (lies)
Why do you need the truth?
If you really need it, I advise you to personally go to Syria and visit both sides of the barricades.

[Chertt]

Quote: You Vlad

Why do you need the truth?

What does the truth have to do with it? (It does not exist at all, everything is subjective). The thought was that against the background of constant "western" lies. Show yourself as a "people of the word", and thereby gain considerable bonus points.

[AFHENOGEN]

So in the west they believe the word of a dentel, what to prove.

[Vladimir Shpakov]

Lies are everywhere.

[Semen1972]

Quote: Vladimir Shpakov

Lies are everywhere.

That’s why I watch only Channel One and Channel Russia, only there you can find the truth !!!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Chertt

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target. There is no talk of shot down or missed missiles.

Do you want them to recognize the fact of "surrendering" their "latest and smartest" hands to Russian experts? This will immediately inflict a crushing blow on the image of their weapons. So they will deny this fact to the last and claim that these are mock-ups, even when they are beaten in the face against the hull of captured missiles.

[Chertt]

Quote: Nyrobsky

They will deny this fact and claim that they are mock-ups, even when they are beaten in the face against the hull of captured missiles.

Let's point by point: (I'm sorry but you're the fifth who says this, tired)
Western media lie
We don't like it
It is necessary that the Russian media differ from the Western
So it is necessary to confirm by the factual statements of the Russian media (which means-stop lying)
To show that the Russian media are different from the western fake news, it’s already important

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Chertt

To show that the Russian media are different from the western fake news, it’s already important

It’s one thing to give pdtv on some small things, and quite another on military topics, when the secrecy stamp is assigned automatically. Here the priority is the interest of the state, which is much more important than the interest of the layman, and therefore take it on faith as it is, without Shoigu's selfie with a rocket.

[Polymer]

After the fight, they don’t wave their fists. No evidence will solve anything. The most powerful blow that the Russian Federation missed is the information one. Russia did not prevent aggression against its weaker ally, did not intercede for it and did not even give an answer. And now this is a signal for potential allies: "Russia will not protect you." After such cases, it turns out that the only allies of Russia are its army and navy.
A very bitter aftertaste remained ...

[Prisoner]

The Chelyabinsk meteorite was unexpectedly lifted, but here a missile strike. Surely there are shots of interceptions and not only amateur ones. But why keep them in the bins? Again our cold-blooded strategists and politicians will outsmart themselves.

[kig]

It’s time, of course, but you won’t show all 68 pieces, and the wreckage will not convince anyone. Those who need it will know, and the public on both sides will remain with their convictions.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Chertt

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target. There is no talk of shot down or missed missiles. And this is said by authoritative (Western) military and politicians.

with their current type of "highly like" in due time, europe arranged 2 world wars !!! let them say that they want ... the main thing is that we manage to deliver a crushing nuclear strike on the Euroamers in time !!!

[Kent0001]

Calm down, Alex. Our "partners" -kachetyk they are hot in the nozzle, except for a couple of pictures of the destruction of objects from 103-105 nifiga missiles did not show, since there is nothing to show. This time. And two of them is that their “smart and new” missiles are in our study, like our MIG-25 and them once were. This article does not have the most important thing, but now we have in fact their “friend or foe” system, but everyone is silent about this. If we crack it, let the Americans even describe themselves, but the next 5-7 years, all that will fly from them is nothing at all, I'm talking about NATO in general, because I think there is one standard for everyone. In short, the price of the issue of hacking the identification system is equal to all their carrier groupings combined. I admit, bravo GDP! This is real HP.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Chertt

In all Western media, unequivocal opinion

the Russian people have long spit on Western opinion. This is only the pro-Western part of the Russian elite seeking approval and recognition in the West.

[meandr51]

Gentlemen take the word. Therefore, the US government never imagines to present any evidence for any reason. Is Russia worse? She is better.

[Dead duck]

Quote: Chertt

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target.

Yeah ... and even three times
Only they have forgotten how to count.
103 missiles at three sites, warhead missiles approximately at 400 kg of TNT.
In theory, there should be a desert (in those areas)

[Chaldon48]

In one word, ours managed to take the "spoken languages", which "you chatted" all the secrets embedded in them.

[Deck]

Has anyone seen photos of downed rockets? They were shot down by pieces of 70. Maybe someone has a link?

[Vadim237]

Ours now would be very relevant to post photos of the "surviving" missiles for infoshumi, but for some reason they are not laid out.

[Cube123]

Quote: Vadim237

Ours now would be very relevant to post photos of the "surviving" missiles for infoshumi, but for some reason they are not laid out.

What for? Who would benefit from such a publication? Only to the enemy. A specialist in a single photograph of the debris will easily appreciate the potential damage from technology discovery. Why give the West cause for complacency?

[Eflintuk]

Those. to reassure the domestic audience, just idle talk, cartoons and fairy tales about the "beginning of the test" and the "start of production" are enough? And it’s not at all a hindrance to poke the West in the face with at least one “shot-down” missile - otherwise we really look like empty-bells and it’s very unpleasant even watching us.

[Spec]

Are you ready to satisfy all the strange succumbing predilections of your opponents, craving for the wreckage of aircraft, for example? Or can you recover from the pictures of missiles destroyed by their object? Why do you still need these pictures?)))
Bullshit about proving to someone that something is not in me, plz.

[meandr51]

It will be immediately declared that this is not the same rocket and in the wrong place. Sometimes it's better to keep silent mysteriously ...

[andj61]

Quote: Vadim237

Ours now would be very relevant to post photos of the "surviving" missiles for infoshumi, but for some reason they are not laid out.

Now both sides are declaring victory. Our 68% have shot down missiles, they have 100% of their missiles, and such as the fact that besides the destroyed objects they didn’t shoot anywhere else. If now it is meticulous to present all the fragments of all the missiles, as well as the surviving KR, then what will the eio lead to?
1. The most incredible option - recognize our version. The Pentagon and the whole west are in shit, the US Army admits the failure of its weapons against even outdated Syrian air defense. Does anyone believe in this option?
2. No one admits any evidence. On the net, srach unfolds about this, and this is the end of the matter.
Well, since it is useless to present evidence, this presentation can be replaced by ordinary daily work to strengthen the defense capabilities of both Russia and Syria. in fact, this is now being done.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vadim237

Ours now would be very relevant to post photos of the "surviving" missiles for infoshumi, but for some reason they are not laid out.

And why ease their mental anguish? Let the “partners” torment themselves in thought, what and in what condition fell into the hands of Russian specialists.

[meandr51]

The insistent demands of rocket photographs raise some suspicions in the motivation of their authors ...

[konstantin68]

What downed missiles? 100% hit the target! Nothing was shot down and nothing fell / self-destructed / lost its course. Yours won, as always.

[meandr51]

Correctly. We ask you again. We liked. You’d always be bombed like that ...

[meandr51]

This is all nonsense. After the publication of the photo of the downed rockets by propagandons, it will be stated that these are their remains after the explosion in the target area. Quite enough statements, as in the USSR. And nehai slander ...

[Rey_ka]

Well, the Syrians apparently didn’t think of taking shot down missiles on a mobile phone! this should be attached to the calculation of the air defense of a special “boy” so that he runs around photographing the shot-down debris. and you still need to collect them in a bunch! And then at what altitude it flew there so the debris scattered for more than one kilometer. And then there on Echo, they’re not just giving them the nameplate fragments!

[lopvlad]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Even on the fly you can find the positives

if only a ruined empty building carries a raid as a loss, while simultaneously allowing to test air defense in real combat conditions and gives trophies with secret technologies, then there are certainly positive aspects.

[foxic]

As a result of the operation, agent Danila Kozyr received the order and the next rank ....

[zyzx]

Can we reproduce their technology, that’s the question .... otherwise, we even have great Chinese.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: zyzx

Can we reproduce their technology, that’s the question .... otherwise, we even have great Chinese.

the question is not “reproduction” (caliber no worse), but how to effectively counteract these “gadgets”.

[lopvlad]

caliber no worse

calibers (supersonic missile) are two times more accurate and three times faster than tomahawks (subsonic missile). So we will not rivet our analogue of obsolete tomahawks.
But the “points of the Russian air defense” after studying the trophies are better tuned for them.

[Navigator Basov]

Why even? Not even, but only just. Well, then you cling to galoshes, then to the greats, as if the presence of domestic galoshes or veliks will allow us to win in future wars.

[zyzx]

Quote: Navigator Basov

Why even? Not even, but only just. Well, then you cling to galoshes, then to the greats, as if the presence of domestic galoshes or veliks will allow us to win in future wars.

Yes, directly, are you going to fight in your underpants? I didn’t produce quilted jackets in 42m, and what happened to the Paulus army? Frozen. To win the war industry is needed, and these are galoshes, great, matches, and so on ...

[Navigator Basov]

That is, you are going to fight on a bike in galoshes, as I understand it? Or do you offer others to fight like that? Or is it at least on the AT-1 ATV manufactured by Russian Mechanics (pictured) and in Faraday production boots (by reference)?

http://faradei.ru/products/war/
While you have been whining for 20 years in a row, everything is already produced in our country no worse than theirs. Nobody needs galoshes in general, neither we nor them. But you can laugh a lot, if you invite Western partners to start producing galoshes according to the corporate strategy of Russian couch defenders, they say you can’t fight if you don’t make galoshes. And domestic bicycles are produced in China (or from Chinese components), since this area is not critical, and there is a demand for budget bikes. And galoshes, by the way, are produced in Russia for their consumers, there are at least a dozen manufacturers, for that matter:
- Dune-Ast (Astrakhan),
- Litex (Essentuki),
- Light Company (Kislovodsk),
- Elastic (Nizhnekamsk),
- EVA plus (Novosibirsk),
- Khimprom (Rostov-on-Don),
- Tomsk rubber shoe factory (Tomsk),
- GKO (Ufa),
- Era-pros (Cheboksary),
- Cheboksary Production Association. V.I. Chapaeva (Cheboksary),
- Spetsregionsnab (Yaroslavl), etc.
Well, will you fight in domestic galoshes?

[andj61]

Quote: zyzx

Can we reproduce their technology, that’s the question .... otherwise, we even have great Chinese.

As soon as we start to reproduce technologies, we will immediately lag behind at least 5-7 years. These rockets just need to be explored.

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

the question is not “reproduction” (caliber no worse), but how to effectively counteract these “gadgets”.

[Prisoner]

Or maybe it is not necessary to reproduce? Or do you think that the Chinese are great because our technology is lost?

[bk316]

Can we reproduce their technology, that’s the question .... otherwise, we even have great Chinese.

So in the geyropa, the Chinese are also great in merikosia, so now what about the district? Self-dissolve?

[Archon]

It would be normal if this information spread after 5 years at least. In our time, secrecy has given way to information and disinformation attacks.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Archon

It would be normal if this information spread after 5 years at least. In our time, secrecy has given way to information and disinformation attacks.

I think on the contrary, let everyone see how "all the missiles hit the target." - These, there are reputational losses.

[Conserp]

Quote: Archon

It would be normal if this information spread after 5 years at least.

What's the point?

Well it is obvious - all the fragments of missiles will be immediately collected and will go to Russia. Why hide it, shy something?

Free reputation strike on the enemy, a sin not to use.

[rotmistr60]

with 100% certainty, we can say that after studying the Central Research Institute of Higher Professional Testing ... the process of detection, tracking and interception ... will be carried out more quickly and at times more efficiently ..

Well, thanks, reassured. And then I thought it a sinful thing that they (missiles) would go to the museum right away and would not be allowed to dig into them with an "egghead".

[X Y Z]

Earlier, a quite interesting idea was put forward to expose these missiles as trophy equipment for all to see. Make it May 9th. Location can be discussed.

[Semen1972]

Quote: XYZ

Earlier, a quite interesting idea was put forward to expose these missiles as trophy equipment for all to see. Make it May 9th. Location can be discussed.

Insanity grew stronger.

[svp67]

The question arises: where the first thing surviving copies of American cruise missiles can go to?

I would be VERY glad if they were sent to the observation deck near the Bolshoi Theater in Moscow, where during the Second World War there was an exposition of captured enemy equipment and showed to all our people, and the world too, on May 9,

[Semen1972]

Quote: svp67

I would be VERY glad if they were sent to the observation deck near the Bolshoi Theater in Moscow, where during the Second World War there was an exposition of captured enemy equipment and showed to all our people, and the world too, on May 9,

Near the Bolshoi, Western technology is already missing. From the latest models of Audi, Mercedes and Beh already ruffles in my eyes (if anyone does not know, there is the Duma and the Federation Council, and a little further Lubyanka).

[Siberian54]

ABOUT one hundred “axes” with 450 kilogram warheads (explosives are twice as powerful as TNT-900 kg in TNT) there should be decent funnels somewhere and in the conditions of building destruction around them in a radius of 50-100 meters, why shouldn't the State Department show space snapshots of the event .. Rather, they will show how Ukrainians MH17 knock down than admit failure in the SAR.

[Siberian54]

According to unconfirmed words of the State Department, 23 tomahawks hit the chemical laboratory on the outskirts of Damascus (22,000 kg in TNT). As an amateur, I could say 10,000 kg of TNT at the scene of the explosion and I can imagine what should remain from the aboveground laboratory facilities in Damascus. half a kilometer from the epicenter — NOTHING SPEAKING ABOVE THE METER OVER THE EARTH-STATE DEPARTMENT: PICTURE TO THE STUDIO

[Vadim237]

In the warhead of the Tomahawk 125 kilograms of explosives.

[bk316]

In the warhead of the Tomahawk 125 kilograms of explosives.

Which one (there are 10 of them)?

[kipod]

Quote: Siberian54

According to unconfirmed words of the State Department, 23 tomahawks hit the chemical laboratory on the outskirts of Damascus (22,000 kg in TNT). As an amateur, I could say 10,000 kg of TNT at the scene of the explosion and I can imagine what should remain from the aboveground laboratory facilities in Damascus. half a kilometer from the epicenter — NOTHING SPEAKING ABOVE THE METER OVER THE EARTH-STATE DEPARTMENT: PICTURE TO THE STUDIO

and at. ax 450 kg b. h?
since when?

[Shahno]

Well, I get the nominal data. In reality, far and not always so. It all depends on the range, complexity of maneuvers, etc. ... It's like 2 + 2 = 4 only in the decimal system, but not in the 8 system. The question is what was the task (the system for the execution of battles. Tasks) ....

[bk316]

and at. ax 450 kg b. h?
since when?[

Since 1983 (WDU-25 / B warhead) WHAT DID NOT KNOW? Learn the materiel.
Although there probably was something newer than the type WDU-43 / B or WDU-36 - also under 400 kg.

[shinobi]

I’m interested in where the axes that didn’t reach from the salvo disappeared in the 17th year, they talked about it, but the fate of 20 or more tomahawks is covered with darkness. With the current, everything is clear, so much is running down. Two-thirds are knocked down. They talk again, like they did last year. Almost the same words and stuffing. Apparently one training manual. Already announced the backwardness of Russian systems, blah blah blah. Soon they will announce that they won and the question closes.

[Conserp]

Quote: shinobi

I’m wondering where the axes that didn’t reach from the salvo disappeared in the 17th year. They talked about it, but the fate of more than 20 and the tomahawk is covered in darkness.

If they fell in the territory controlled by bearded men, or simply fell into the middle of nowhere (a huge country, endless mountains and deserts) - who and how will look for them there?

[Spambox]

This reminds me of how in Vietnam, the MiG hit the Aim-9 missile with a thermal homing head and ... got stuck there.
The plane successfully landed and the missile was handed over to the USSR. The rocket was opened and saw that all the stuffing was protected by epoxy. At that time, VDNKh hosted an exhibition of bone carvers, which were quickly involved in solving a non-standard problem. These craftsmen took off the epoxy for the bribes, we got a head on the basis of which we quickly made our own rocket with tweaks.
I think there will be a similar story.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Spambox

These craftsmen took off the epoxy for the bribes, we got a head on the basis of which we quickly made our own rocket with tweaks.

Now only China is capable of this.

[meandr51]

Not in Vietnam, but in China during the conflict over Taiwan. Indeed, the Sinduinder was copied in 1958. But before that, similar missiles were already in service with the USSR. But for a long time, domestic GOS photodetectors showed worse results. Then the indicators were equal.

[revnagan]

Under one condition, that the missiles were not specially planted, thus draining the “dezu.” It is quite plausible: the enemy is studying the captured enemy equipment, it’s quite logical. But the question is, is the filling of this very technique “authentic”?

[Prisoner]

Evo how! Learn pin dos how to otmazyvatsya. So why do they need to suffer such garbage?

[vlad007]

If someone has not seen, I advise you to look.

[Dr. Hub]

Given the environment of Trump, the latter, quite possibly, sincerely believes that all the missiles flew. Able to subordinate information from him

[omit]

Well, at least one photo of the fallen Amer rocket! And I don’t believe it!

[Hole puncher]

Quote: omit

Well, at least one photo of the fallen Amer rocket! And I don’t believe it!

This is the axiom of a gopher.

[kvarfax]

https://social.dayonline.ru/blog/43574509727/Opub
likovano-pervoe-foto-sbitoy-v% C2% A0Sirii-raketyi-
SSHA

https://news.rambler.ru/world/39615519-opublikova
no-foto-sbitoy-amerikanskoy-rakety /

https://www.anews.com/p/89214242-kto-vret-ssha-il
i-russiya-skolko-raket-na-samom-dele-sbili-v-siri
i/
Believe it? Sure no

[meandr51]

And don't believe it. Believers at another door.

[Bormental]

Well, yes, yes, to remove algorithms from silicon bricks? These are not microcircuits, as was done in Soviet times, sanding and studying layer by layer. Not so simple, the "black box" is the "black box". Well, the executive part, implemented in hardware, to study wherever it goes ... We sell the rockets to customers with the prescribed algorithms without fear that the “partners” will get the rocket and gut it, and in the algorithm the most cimus is to fly it 300 km, as an export option or 500 ... Well, if only in the "sharashka" we have a secret genius who, with the help of passes, will overcome all the blockages, then oh ...

[Alexander Lubov]

These two smartest missiles decided to migrate and tell everything about themselves! So Trump needs to be more silent or chew than speak!

[alauda1038]

I would like to see trophies, but then boltology turns out ...

[Victor Osipov]

Quote: Chertt

Quote: _Sergey_

This will not help. They want to believe that all missiles have flown, nothing will convince them otherwise

If we show evidence, then many in Russia (and myself) will be calmer that our Military and Diplomats are not Western talkers, and you can trust their words

Are you a spy? So they laid it out for you, maybe Tomahawk is needed in the yard ... for "calm"

[turbris]

It is not necessary to show anything, because intelligence exists to provide the political leadership of the countries with real, not politically biased data. The West knows all about how Syrian air defense worked, and the statements of political leaders and the press are for the masses. Do not flatter yourself about the top-secret missiles received, the secret is only what is at the development stage, and not what is massively supplied to the troops. It is important to confirm the actual performance characteristics and their difference from the advertising data of the American military-industrial complex.

[Andrey Andreev_2]

And “politically biased data?” Cannot put pressure on our brains through the court media. The fact of the matter is that no one can be trusted, because ALL lie! The truth is somewhere in between)))))

[turbris]

You can’t trust anyone and everyone lies - this is a normal reaction to the media, but only the division of the media into courtiers and others alarms me. You can clarify the court media are mistaken, the rest just lie, everything is crushing your brains and thank God you are not participating in government decisions and therefore intelligence information is not available to you. But still, if you analyze various sources of information, you can grab the truth by the tail, but it takes time.

[2ez]

A new joke from Russian amateurs: “The highest military officials of NATO and Russia meet. NATO members:“ So, guys, like, tomorrow we’re launching a missile strike in Syria, like, we are launching 100 missiles. You understand, the military lobby, denyushka is dripping and all that jazz. "Ours:" Great! Then we, supposedly, shot down 70 of your missiles. You understand, friendship is friendship, and DenYushka is apart! "All together - OK! And then some idiot really fired a couple of rockets ... But what, in Russia they have not yet been studied!"

[stalkerwalker]

Zarathustra,
To send you "according to Lavrov"? Or will you die?

[Abrascha]

Now, if the Syrians in response to a missile attack would have sunk an Amer destroyer or at least shot down an English tornado, then this fact would be really hard to deny. And the missiles flew to the target, or they were still valnuli in the air; this is a dark matter (all the more so everything happened at night)))) and to hell to whom you prove and explain. Everyone will inflate the version that is beneficial to him. Well, remember at least how Panikovsky and Shura Balaganov told Bender about their unsuccessful attempt to shock the underground millionaire Koreiko)))). So all this is normal. This is still life)))

[Indifferent]

Who needs proof? There is a photo of last year’s strike at Shairat airfield. and there all the flying Axes are stacked in a heap. You can count them there and make sure that our military does not lie. And the missiles that left for our research institute should not be shown now. Let them think what they want. The less they know what we know, the better. More invested in remaking rockets.

[Kibl]

It was necessary to bring down the media!

[Normal ok]

Moscow is delivering a critical blow to the capabilities of the US Air Force: what will research of surviving missiles reveal?

In the rockets that Iraq still remembers, can you find something else new?

[Victoria-V]

According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, 103 missiles were fired on the ATS, most of which were successfully repelled by the Syrian air defense. Russian President Vladimir Putin, in turn, said that 92 missiles were shot down, and US strikes exacerbate a humanitarian catastrophe in the world and provoke a new wave of refugees.

[Bort radist]

Quote: stalkerwalker

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Zarathustra
Why are you then asking for evidence from others?
I don’t ask, because I understand that I won’t hear the truth ...

After the "evidence" that Salisbury is still composing on the go, or the one that was cited as a "fact" by Assad’s use of chemical weapons in the Duma, when the Western political establishment is hysterical about every occasion and is already claiming Russia's "upcoming" election the next president, somewhere, it’s not clear where, the meaning itself has disappeared to prove something from the word in general, after an ineffective dialogue with the deaf and blind opponents of the “civilized West”.

"Fantazery" Nosov - a classic of the genre

[Dzafdet]

Quote: Chertt

Quote from Uncle Lee

Even in the raid you can find the positive side!

In all Western media, the unequivocal opinion is that all or almost all of the missiles hit the target. There is no talk of shot down or missed missiles. And this is said by authoritative (Western) military and politicians. Russia needs to start showing evidence. And then we look in the west, since May and Johnson look in Russia. those. balabolami

What is your evidence? Cocaine! Where are the destroyed objects from the launch of 120 KR? There is? NO!

[Victoria-V]

Russia in the near future will begin to supply S-300 systems to Syria for free. The rocket launchers were supposed to start shipping back in 2010, but then the contract was canceled at the request of Israel.

[Lyutoyar R.]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Chertt

If we show evidence, then many

It is necessary to demonstrate with wide coverage by the mass media: to invigorate your own and add strenuousness to others. Let the taxpayers ask them why they lie insolently.

This naivety is still alive. There do not care about the opinion of taxpayers.

[Old military officer]

Yes, powerful prey went. Let the fighters for democracy scratch the most painful place - the wallet. Who knows what those Russians got there? However, the probability of disclosing classified information is very high, so you have to shell out not in a childish way.

[Borders]

Thanks to Bashar for this!

[Amateur]

Again our Nostradamans. Again he knows everything. Steeper than GRU GSh MO, who probably know something. But they probably have a subscription and admission. And so very interesting. "We have such devices, but we will not tell you about them." Mango Mango. "Scuba divers"

[Stavr Godinovich]

RUSSIAN specialists who are researching rockets were very upset: this is an OLD - 40 years old !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!

[Andrey Andreev_2]

Ours will deal with the control system and make Boomerangs from the Tomahawks, which, upon a signal, will turn around and fly to the launch sites .. There will be some laughter!

[Victoria-V]

So, like RIA Novosti, with reference to Pavel Sozinov, it reported the explosion of one of the delivered American missile AGM-158 in Kirov (BRANCH No. 2 of the Almaz-Antey air defense concern).

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Victoria-In

So, like RIA Novosti, with reference to Pavel Sozinov, it reported the explosion of one of the delivered American missile AGM-158 in Kirov (BRANCH No. 2 of the Almaz-Antey air defense concern).

A reference, sister ... Or will you be another "daughter of an ohvitser" ....

[Victoria-V]

https://ria.ru/syria/kirow/sozinow/20186523/18792
53341.html

[stalkerwalker]

You, my dear, have long been shining here with left-wing news. There is no such news.
Solemnly declare you "daughter of the Bandera policeman".

[Victoria-V]

I don’t know, but it doesn’t open anymore ...

[stalkerwalker]

Did you check for sure?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: stalkerwalker

A reference, sister ...

"Sister" this frensh for the third or fourth time in a couple of days here squeezes.
Apparently, the obsessive motive of "her"

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Golovan Jack

"Sister" this frensh for the third or fourth time in a couple of days here squeezes.

Novel, my respect.

This is no longer a sister ....

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: stalkerwalker

my regards

Mutually,

Quote: stalkerwalker

It is no longer

I understood. And the quotes, I also did not just put

[Vladimir SHajkin]

Frankly, I was even visited by the thought, but have Putin and Trump gotten into trouble about who has the best system? Of course, this is fantastic in the literal sense of the word, but what the hell is not joking, everything can be in the conversation, and Trump got a little pierced when he announced smart missiles, and our ships and boats went out on an external raid in advance, so there’s something to think about .

[Mentat]

Quote: freddyk

Does the MO in itself exist? His direct work is protecting the interests of the Kremlin

Quote: anykin

You about MO and you about the Kremlin.

The direct work of the Moscow Region is to protect Russia from external threats. You mixed up the vacuum with the plunger.

[mvg]

Why can’t you put a minus to the article and the author? Well, at least once. Well zadolbil his unproven reasoning. Well, at least a picture which was inserted into the article or a cartoon, like a downed ax falls, and arapchat with bows run to him and shout urra, well, or Allahakbar. And he calculated% and called the model, probably the connection in the Pentagon.
Plin, does he write his short stories to schoolchildren?

[Bypassed]

The next step in testing US missiles or full-size mock-ups can be taking measurements in an anechoic chamber to build even more accurate EPR diagrams that no third-party radiation source with a frequency range of up to 40 GHz can affect.

Belarusians also have anechoic chambers. I personally observed one. So you can apply for fraternal help, if necessary.

[Anatoly Denisov]

When they hit Shairat, also rockets buried in the sand ... Moscow drivers experienced this themselves. at the entrance to the Kremlin, their navigators showed that they were driving along ... the Arbat. In the Black Sea, NATO ships also positioned themselves ... on the shore ..
Having fallen under the influence of electronic warfare equipment and lost in space, the rocket will have to urgently gain a height of about 150-200 meters in order to clarify its coordinates. At this moment, it becomes a good target for air defense systems. At the same time, EW forces will get a good chance to completely “blind” and “disorient” the missile.

[Vladimir Emelyanov]

So it is so, but not so, these missiles do not need GPS, they fly on a program that is inside them and it’s practically impossible to shoot down REBs, these tomahawks cannot be checked with anything other than their on-board computer and the area that is visually in front of them

[cradle]

Quote: kipod

Quote: Conserp

65% of Americans are mentally retarded, another 20% are just dumb

if you are so smart, why are you so poor?

Patamush’s grandmothers don’t print like SGA and don’t get from Israel like Israel, but WE EARN ... Do you know this word?

[cradle]

Quote: omit

Well, at least one photo of the fallen Amer rocket! And I don’t believe it!

Eugays forever asked for evidence ... even from Jesus himself ... weary.

[zan_parti]

In vain voiced info about the study of rockets. Now the enemy has a reason for making changes to their design ...

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Cube123

And as regards the speeches of the generals - why should they confirm their statements? They are not in court and are not required to prove anything publicly. For evidence, there are completely different structures.

recently, one responsible general quite publicly proved that the earth is round ... for some reason I mentally applauded him. A genius, he is also clever at the Ministry of Defense, is it even though the stars are falling?

[Vladimir Emelyanov]

Read and numerous eyewitnesses living in the vicinity of Damascus, Shairat, Dumeirah, Duval and Bley, who observed dozens of flashes from exploding warheads of anti-aircraft missiles in the sky, and then the wreckage of air attack weapons on the surface
And now we think, if there are so many eyewitnesses, then 1. there should be a bunch of shootings on mobile phones, and their current is a couple of pieces. 2 Shooting of fragments of axes should also already be full on the net, but there aren’t any. 3. Today at the briefing several pieces of iron were shown, this is not even a hundredth part of shot down missiles, several parts from a maximum of a pair of rockets. Along the way, our people lie, however, like the United States, it would be interesting to know the truth, and even more would like the air defense to be really effective, but along the way this is far from the case

[Tilkus75]

It was a banal test of the defense of the Syrian "umbrella" missile defense ....

What umbrellas, which missile defense is purely politics !!! The next check will not eat eat! And they ate everyone! And once eaten, wait for the “supplement” and more!
But how everyone turned! It all came down to a trivial count of downed tomahawks!))

[gespenst45]

Well, let’s take it to the last rivet, the main thing is to figure it out. Let’s try it for a tooth, if only it’s good. And when they’ll figure it out, you can send your cockroaches to America. .In truth they say: "There is a silver lining."

[Vadim12]

Well, and everyone says that Trump is bad, evil. That's what a generous gift he gave to our specialists! These missiles will now have to be greatly redone, which is very expensive for the French and Americans.

[sannyasn]

Then the Pentagon deny the fact of the loss of these missiles, such a reason for Trump to clean this cantor from clintonoids.

[Imobile]

Very little practical information is carried by these debris. What would be useful: this is the program on which the rocket flew, but this information cannot be available, after de-energization it is erased. The capabilities of the sensors, but they are heavily known. The most important ALU (processors) they are much more primitive than in your computers, but they have a very important feature, they are not subject to interference. It was them that we could not do in the USSR, and we cannot do now, hence the backlog in avionics and in the space industry. But the wreckage will not help to reveal this secret, moreover, we could buy them whole before the sanctions, but we did not get closer to the disclosure of production technology

[Shahno]

On microcircuits and even ready-made boards it is not possible to reveal the technology ... "Give up all hope ...". Electronic engineers understand the rest of Google in ...

[Mista_dj]

It would be nice if our “partners” fired at Syria with Cadillacs, or with Corvettes at worst.
Look, you should have studied it instead of riveting shit bowls)))