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Skripale poisoned by the British agents. Lavrov voiced the conclusions of the Swiss Center

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The research center in Switzerland, which analyzed the OPCW samples from the scene of the Salisbury incident, concluded that the substance BZ, which was in service with the United States and Britain, was not used in the Russian Federation and the USSR, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.


Skripale poisoned by the British agents. Lavrov voiced the conclusions of the Swiss Center


Speaking at a meeting of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy, Lavrov said that according to information from the Swiss Center for Radiological and Chemical-Radiological Analysis in the city of Spitz, obtained under conditions of confidentiality, OZ BZ was used in poisoning Skripale. Specialists from this 27 March Center completed a study of samples that were sent to them from the OPCW, samples that were taken from the OPCW at the scene in Salisbury.

Now I will quote literally what they sent to the OPCW as their conclusion. "Following the examination, traces of the toxic chemical BZ and its precursors related to the chemical arms the second category in accordance with the Convention on the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. BZ is a nerve agent that temporarily disables a person. The psychotoxic effect is achieved thirty to sixty minutes after application and lasts up to four days. This recipe was in service with the army of the United States, Britain and other NATO countries. No such chemical compounds were developed in the USSR and Russia
- leads RIA News Lavrov's words

Moscow appeals to the OPCW with the question why the information center in the Swiss city of Spitz on the poisoning incident with the ex-colonel of the GRU Sergey Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury was not taken into account and was omitted altogether in the final document of the OPCW
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  1. Proton
    Proton April 14 2018 18: 07
    +13
    All right now, Switzerland will shake laughing framed them Lavrov
    1. Borik
      Borik April 14 2018 18: 11
      +8
      What, still still can not calm down. Patients seem to recover and are not going to die. So also Switzerland entered into the investigation.
      1. cniza
        cniza April 14 2018 18: 26
        +9
        One thing is clear that nothing is clear and the whole struggle is ahead.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 14 2018 18: 32
          +6
          Quote: cniza
          One thing is clear that nothing is clear and the whole struggle is ahead.

          Here you have Victor and the OPCW ... :)) why should they bother to investigate Syria? ...
          It's a shame that we are again not the main ones, and here the impulse passed us by, from the hands of the Skripals orthoplasty championship, they tore it straight with meat ... laughing
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 14 2018 18: 48
            +9
            Nikolay, hello hi right now May will be offended by Switzerland, and kaaak hrenaknet! they also have their own missiles
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN April 14 2018 18: 54
              +5
              Hi Roman! hi May is not upset now ... because if the states live by lawlessness, then these mongrels will always have a frightened face for fear, they will be bored by the states and the suit for lawlessness is not the same ... Here they have brains of fear where they go anything and no longer revenge, but as if among the fucked ones to survive ... smile
            2. bsk_una
              bsk_una April 15 2018 08: 51
              +1
              Hitler did not dare to attack Switzerland, and Little Britain did not dare at all, it was not Russia, which had not yet gained strength. For Switzerland, Kose-Teresa will tear off the eggs and throw a hawk with her corpse.
            3. okko077
              okko077 April 15 2018 11: 34
              0
              It is clear that Skripalei was poisoned by the BZ chemical, and a novice was sprinkled on top of all samples ... Sneaky and cowardly did not foresee that the Swiss would find BZ traces in the samples ... Everything agrees both in the severity of the poisoning and in the time of the defeat, but now how to prove it it's all for the world ... But the meanness of these geyropeytsy just rolls over ....
        2. Logall
          Logall April 14 2018 18: 32
          +8
          Quote: cniza
          fight ahead.

          Victor, hi , there will be no struggle! Everything will be frozen when the time comes ... In their press, the hype will settle down, and ours will not inflate, due to the lack of interest in the audience ...
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 14 2018 18: 49
            +6
            Alexander! hi certainly inflate! stink like a bum at every intersection
            1. dr.star75
              dr.star75 April 14 2018 18: 51
              +3
              And who will listen to our Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Only Russia today?
              1. cniza
                cniza April 14 2018 18: 55
                +3
                In their press, the hype will settle down, and ours will not inflate, due to the lack of interest in the audience ...


                It may well be so. Greetings to Alexander! hi
          2. Dead duck
            Dead duck April 14 2018 19: 01
            +7
            Quote: Logall
            In their press, the hype will settle down, but ours will not inflate, due to the lack of interest in the audience ..

            "Spoons were found, but the sediment remained!" winked
          3. Lelek
            Lelek April 14 2018 21: 54
            0
            Quote: Logall
            Everything will be frozen when the time comes ... In their press, the hype will settle down, and ours will not inflate, due to the lack of interest in the audience.

            hi
            Perhaps it will be so. But I really want to brittle the Britons on the wort, and at the same time on small “snacks” so that they do not stick their snouts in our garden. Well, just not in patience. bully
        3. Slovak
          Slovak April 14 2018 19: 46
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          One thing is clear that nothing is clear and the whole struggle is ahead.

          Since the "probability is high", it is necessary to bomb London in a single hairdryer with 103 missiles.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 14 2018 22: 40
            0
            At the same time, it is highly likely that they will not hit a single missile. bully
        4. assa67
          assa67 April 14 2018 20: 00
          +4
          Victor hi ...
          Quote: cniza
          One thing is clear that nothing is clear and the whole struggle is ahead.

          the guilty parties have already been appointed ... the cat and the hamsters are cremated, they hid the "victims" and keep them under control ... and henceforth, if applied, then quality poison so that they don’t find any traces am
        5. sabakina
          sabakina April 14 2018 23: 00
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          One thing is clear that nothing is clear and the whole struggle is ahead.

          Victor, one thing is clear that I don’t understand. But what I don’t understand, I can’t understand.
        6. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 20
          0
          Not a fight, but arrivals. Normal fight, and bastards run over, who have nothing to say.
        7. pvv113
          pvv113 April 15 2018 09: 24
          0
          Victor, salute! It was clear, and it was immediately evident that the Anglo-Saxons could not do without the intrigues
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      2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich April 14 2018 18: 53
        +20
        How much can you grind this rotten case. Initially, we behave incorrectly - we try to make excuses, not understanding the meaninglessness and humiliation. I think it was necessary to act like this: The poisoning occurred in England, therefore the British are responsible on their territory, if they cannot ensure security, then they can hire our police for money - well, we’ll think about it. Do these Skripals need Russia, if we consider them citizens of the Russian Federation, then we had to send their diplomats and drive the fleet to the island, they are fully responsible for the safety of our citizens. If Skripal is a traitor for Russia, then we should not give a damn about all the screams of London, even if our special services eliminated the traitor, although I am sure that this is not so. You have sheltered a deserter and now nurse with him, but don’t meddle with us, and don’t calm down, throw out the entire diplomatic corps and conduct exercises on the island. The main mistake of the Russian Federation is the attempt to rationalize the provocateurs with good, statements by the Foreign Ministry about non-involvement. Anglo-Saxons understand only one language - the language of power. I believe that in order to normalize relations it is necessary that Russia would be mortally afraid, only then they will respect it.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 14 2018 19: 17
          +6
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          How much can you grind this rotten case. Initially, we misbehave

          So, that would initially behave correctly and you need to "grind rotten cases." You can’t learn to swim theoretically.
        2. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 22
          0
          And why are you still not the president, prime minister or, in extreme cases, the second Lavrov. Everything is simple, laid out on the shelves. But these are emotions. Turn on the brain ....
        3. Alex-a832
          Alex-a832 April 15 2018 05: 33
          +1
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          How much can you grind this rotten case. Initially, we behave incorrectly - we try to make excuses, not understanding the meaninglessness and humiliation.

          I have never noticed that Russia "makes excuses" on this topic. Seeking and voicing evidence that neutralizes defamation, as well as exposing libel, is a necessary measure in an information war. Or go drenched in mud, but there was nothing proudly raised, and the type of “there was nothing? The arrogant Saxons simply dream about it. The Russophobic sub-mattress authorities of the western countries, who unreasonably supported the lies of Britain, rely not only on Washington bribes, but also on officials convinced of their rightness and The goal of Russia in the information war — by transmitting objective data with the correct comments — is to destroy this basis, cool the ardor of western fighting hamsters, which, if properly accumulated, can also nibble a bear. And Russia's successes on this front are obvious - the West has fussed, is taking stupid steps such as the bombing in Syria, the crude provocation of the Skripaly.
          Therefore, Russia must defer to all substantial provocations, as in the Skripaly and Syria, in order to ultimately turn it against the West.
          And to engage only in boycotts and threats in order to gain some respect on fear, in our case, this is the path to TMV, which only mentally ill can desire.
      3. Weyland
        Weyland April 14 2018 21: 20
        +1
        Quote: Borik
        Patients seem to recover and are not going to die.

        Because they recover, BZ is a nerve agent, temporarily incapacitating a person
      4. Kyzmich
        Kyzmich April 15 2018 03: 43
        +1
        Yeah, get well.
        True, no one has ever seen them alive.
        I have the assumption that no one else will see them alive.
        1. helmi8
          helmi8 April 15 2018 19: 17
          0
          Quote: Kyzmich
          True, no one has ever seen them alive.
          I have the assumption that no one else will see them alive.

          I don’t know how Skripal is, but his daughter is 100% citizen of the Russian Federation. Maybe it's time to punish punishment for abduction?
          1. Kyzmich
            Kyzmich April 16 2018 02: 27
            0
            tomorrow they will announce that they are in the witness protection program "and that’s it.
            Ends in the water.
            After surfacing information with BZ
            I'm more and more sure they are corpses.
      5. iouris
        iouris April 15 2018 11: 18
        0
        Quote: Borik
        Patients seem to recover and are not going to die.

        It can still change.
    2. Monos
      Monos April 14 2018 18: 12
      +5
      Based on the results of the examination, traces of the toxic chemical BZ and its precursors were found in the samples ...

      They took BZ and densely sprinkled with “Novice”, nobody guessed Schaub. Amateurs! And these guys from the OPCW are cunning! Hid the facts.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 14 2018 18: 15
        +7
        Lavrov is lying !!! We poisoned him, but the bastard survived, then we’ll finish the ice ax!
        1. V. Salama
          V. Salama April 14 2018 18: 51
          +5
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Lavrov Lies !!! ....

          He’s lying, but not intentionally, he was framed:
          BZ is a nerve agent that temporarily disables a person.
          Wi-Zet refers to psychochemical substances that act on the nervous system and cause mental disorders. The combat condition is aerosol (smoke). In the tactical classification, these are substances temporarily incapacitating manpower, but not neuro-paralytic - they are fatal, affecting the transmission mechanism of the nerve impulse in the central nervous system, such as sarin, soman, VX ... It seems that they were not going to kill anyone initially needed a hype. Joke about the ice ax appreciated +
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin April 14 2018 20: 45
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Lavrov is lying !!! We poisoned him, but the bastard survived, then we’ll finish the ice ax!

          In my shop there is a wide selection of ice axes, from budget versions from the village forge to exclusive samples from precious metals with inlay and precious stones.
          Wholesale buyers discounts.
        3. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 23
          0
          Are you dumb or pretending to be?
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K April 14 2018 18: 26
        +6
        Quote: Monos
        ... They took BZ and densely sprinkled with "Novice", nobody knew the Schaub. Amateurs! And these guys from the OPCW are cunning! Hid the facts ...

        Victor hi
        Life is becoming more wonderful and wonderful.
        Interestingly, but the European "tobacco" in the know about the conclusions of the Swiss?
        May, doesn’t hiccup now?
        1. Monos
          Monos April 14 2018 18: 28
          +5
          Andrey Evgenievich, my respect hi
          Quote: Andrey K
          Interestingly, but the European "tobacco" in the know about the conclusions of the Swiss?

          Sherkhan doesn't care what they think there.
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K April 14 2018 18: 33
            +8
            Quote: Monos
            ... Sherkhan doesn't care what they think there ...

            As my battalion commander used to say - the problems of the Indians, the sheriff is not ... worried laughing
      3. figwam
        figwam April 14 2018 18: 35
        +3
        Western terrorists fell for their lies. Crap, crap, and crap.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K April 14 2018 19: 32
          +2
          Quote: figvam
          ... Western terrorists fell for their lies. Crap, crap, and crap ...

          Sergei hi
          As they say - don’t dig another hole, or you’ll bury him in it negative
    3. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don April 14 2018 18: 16
      +3
      Who would doubt that "the British is crap," said A.V. Suvorov.
    4. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik April 14 2018 18: 35
      0
      Switzerland never. It’s the same as transferring all property to your wife, and then file for divorce)
    5. st25310
      st25310 April 14 2018 19: 07
      +8
      Need to launch a missile strike on the UK for using chemical weapons against Russian citizens! am
      1. businessv
        businessv April 14 2018 21: 05
        0
        Quote: st25310
        Need to launch a missile strike on the UK for using chemical weapons against Russian citizens!

        Not a missile strike, but to send a "newbie" about whom they sang so much! They performed a miracle with him, revived the Skripals, even if they continue to wonder! Joke! Trolls, relax!
      2. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 24
        0
        Forward! Put ....
      3. helmi8
        helmi8 April 15 2018 19: 34
        +1
        Quote: st25310
        Need to launch a missile strike on the UK for using chemical weapons against Russian citizens!

        I imagine a panic if we raise this issue in the Security Council ... And why - there are conclusions from two laboratories, we have the right to act by their methods.
    6. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 April 14 2018 19: 50
      0
      S. Lavrov will mumble such important facts again under his breath when you need to beat all the tambourines and bells so that every European can be told. With constant bubbling and complaisant actions, at the sight of the foreign ministers of other countries, it seems that “our” S. Lavrov has long been not ours, but has moved into the category of mishandled Cossacks (after lengthy family “trials” in the USA) ..
      1. businessv
        businessv April 14 2018 21: 00
        0
        Quote: Vladimir 5
        when you need to beat all the tambourines and bells so that every European can get across.

        The EU leadership, which fell under the mattresses, needs to be beaten into tambourines! He concealed the truth, lied - to him a tambourine! Or do you offer Lavrov to run through the streets of Europe and "convey the truth to the Europeans"? smile
      2. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 26
        0
        And who are you? Accuser of horseradish. Turn on your brain and don’t croak.
    7. 210ox
      210ox April 14 2018 20: 01
      +1
      Really "axes"!? That's what neutrality brings to!
      Quote: Proton
      All right now, Switzerland will shake laughing framed them Lavrov
    8. Maz
      Maz April 14 2018 20: 11
      +2
      This is a conversation with deafproof zombies.
    9. businessv
      businessv April 14 2018 20: 56
      0
      Quote: Proton
      All right now Switzerland will be scammed framed by their Laurels

      Yeah, schA! Already scared! A neutral country, in which all who must shake, keep their savings acquired by overwork! Laurels well done! Pros of the highest class! hi
    10. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by April 14 2018 23: 02
      0
      Already hiccups the Swiss franc.
      Well, yes, from these highlanders where you sit down, there you get down.
    11. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 14 2018 23: 24
      0
      Porton Down is being “calibrated”, Switzerland has framed small Britain.
    12. krops777
      krops777 April 15 2018 04: 06
      0
      All right now Switzerland will be scared laughing Framed them Lavrov


      Nothing will calm down. laughing As always, they’ll turn on the fool, Russia is to blame by definition, and any reason can be found soon before elementary things go down, for example, the weather is bad.
  2. Vard
    Vard April 14 2018 18: 07
    +1
    True, it still pops up ... don’t hide it ... Only they will find spoons ... and the sediment will remain ... Now everywhere like an epidemic ... lowered social responsibility has spread ... like among women ... politicians and among organizations that ban chemical weapons ...
    1. ALEXXX1983
      ALEXXX1983 April 14 2018 18: 10
      +2
      Quote: Vard
      True, it still pops up ... don’t hide it ... Only then they will find spoons ... and the sediment will remain ...

      And most of the "world community" will not even know that they were found, they will think that they are still stolen.
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 29
        0
        Yes, the world community is deep ... Ask our citizens. Most of all do not care, unfortunately. How many million voted for House-2. That's it ... Tattoos, popcorn, chips and other Western junk ...
  3. Scoun
    Scoun April 14 2018 18: 09
    +5
    So Switzerland showed how impartial it is.
    Believe after that the High European Courts ... all of them are anointed with one poop.
    As our athletes who were justified caved in and the Olympics were allowed to be described, here they managed to poke a finger.
  4. Wolka
    Wolka April 14 2018 18: 09
    +1
    test, now gentlemen poisoners, prove the opposite, if you have enough mind
    1. taiga2018
      taiga2018 April 14 2018 18: 17
      +1
      Quote: Volka
      prove otherwise if you have enough mind

      and they don’t need a mind, they find all the "evidence" in social networks ...
    2. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 30
      0
      The thing is that they never try to prove the opposite. It's like crap one's pants, but you can’t return it back ...
  5. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 14 2018 18: 09
    +6
    And spoons were found, and no traces of Russian guilt were found.
    But now there is no flight zone over Syria, and it is being bombed. The main goals are achieved, the snowball rolled down the mountain.
    1. Cat
      Cat April 14 2018 18: 37
      +4
      And the second Skripal Cat is gone !!! good
      I don’t give a damn about the cat’s "entih derelicts" !!! am
      What is not an incident of Beli !!! laughing
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto April 14 2018 18: 46
        +5
        the second Skripale Cat is gone !!

        Now he is Jason Bornkot, ...... always on the line, hiding somewhere and professionally cutting down all suspects on the go .......
        Always on the road and just wants to remember her past, .... "how did it all go so far"?




        He’s a poor fellow and doesn’t know that in Mi-6 it was decided to close the “kitty” project.
        1. Cat
          Cat April 14 2018 18: 52
          +5
          What a cat they brought to .....
          Lose weight, turned pale, turned gray, wool fell out!
          Help out the guy !!!

          And he was so well-fed and educated !!!
          1. Dezinto
            Dezinto April 14 2018 18: 55
            +4
            Help out the guy !!!

            It is clear.
            He needs new documents with unlit footprints. Several thousand in different currencies. A car with diplomatic numbers, and a green corridor at all borders.

            Jason, they are there! .... the second window by the balcony - JUMP!

            1. Cat
              Cat April 14 2018 18: 58
              +1
              And the sex change operation !!! wassat
          2. Lelek
            Lelek April 14 2018 21: 58
            +1
            Quote: Kotischa
            And he was so well-fed and educated

            hi
            Can we take a look?
        2. Dead duck
          Dead duck April 14 2018 19: 18
          +6
          hehe ... Cornish winked
          1. Dezinto
            Dezinto April 14 2018 19: 21
            +3
            rooting - FIG catch up ... good
            1. Dead duck
              Dead duck April 14 2018 19: 30
              +5
              Quote: DEZINTO
              rooting - FIG catch up ...

              cool beast laughing
              1. Dezinto
                Dezinto April 14 2018 19: 32
                +3
                cool beast

                So I say this is not just beasts. If it is properly trained, he will pull five out of a sinking machine. and won’t even bewitch. and shaking off will go into the sunset. laughing
                In his free time, sitting on the closet, looks at you as a miserable cat-like .... laughing
                A cool devil, guards for an attack from around the corner, but his ears give out.
      2. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE April 14 2018 23: 26
        0
        the citizen and citizen of the Russian Federation still suffered, the latter is still definitely being held hostage.
      3. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 15 2018 06: 17
        +2
        And the second Skripal Cat is gone !!!

        Not a cat left .... a cat left .... they women, it ... "they smell it with their soul" ("The meeting place cannot be changed")
    2. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr April 15 2018 01: 32
      0
      After all, the bombing is not over Syria, but Syria from around the corner. And that's another matter. From neutral territory ...
  6. konstantin68
    konstantin68 April 14 2018 18: 12
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    But Syria is already being bombed

    Syria-Skripal - where is the logic?
    1. Vard
      Vard April 14 2018 18: 14
      +5
      And there and there is one scenario ... a fake with chemical weapons ... and the logic ... here you are right ... no ...
      1. Wolka
        Wolka April 14 2018 18: 23
        +2
        and the logic is this: the Yankees had long had to make excuses for things in Syria, the strike was planned in advance but it was necessary to turn off Russia, so, at the direction of the Yankees, the British allegedly organized poisoning of violins accusing Russia and throwing a tantrum, I draw all the attention to the "villain", and the Yankees white helmets prepared according to the instructions laid out another fake of the ATS chemical attack, and everyone already knows the distance, but here and there the result is ZERO, this is the main thing
        1. konstantin68
          konstantin68 April 14 2018 18: 51
          0
          Let me disagree. First: the Yankees don’t intend to explain to anyone, second: the strike was not planned in advance (because there are only 2 EMs), third: how did Skripal’s “disconnect the Russian Federation in Syria?”, Fourth: Skripal is the revenge of the Britons for humiliation from the Russian Federation (when ours , in response to a request to put pressure on Assad to release their specialists, they were sent directly to him), etc. There are also the fifth and sixth, but this already needs to be written a whole article. Dear, did you try to read analytics on the global layouts? .
    2. Dezinto
      Dezinto April 14 2018 18: 23
      +6
      Poisoning is not clear to anyone on the bench in London, in connection with which a wild storm has been raised about this. Then - the expulsion of ambassadors. The largest expulsion of Russian ambassadors in many countries.

      Illustration of Russia as monsters from the deep sea. Frank rudeness addressed to politicians at the highest level.
      All foreign media are full of headlines and compete in caricatures. Another muddy chemical attack, and as a result, at the moment, the bombing of Syria that Russia has been supporting for the fifth year already (and you already read the magazines, and you know what kind of monster from the depths supports it) and saves it from thugs .. and everyone knows that Russia , officially stated many times - we came by invitation, and we will here on an honest open basis support the legitimacy of Assad ......

      ......not? the chain is not traced? if not logical, then very one link to the other is connected perfectly.
      Here is a video for you to briefly and briefly outline how everything is done.

    3. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx April 14 2018 21: 52
      +1
      Syria-Skripal - where is the logic?
      Billions of dollars have been allocated to fight the Kremlin’s “propaganda,” thousands of people in dozens of countries scribble scenarios and forecasts. If we assume that the goal is to represent Russia for its layman as a fiend of hell, then logic is visible to the naked eye.
    4. Lelek
      Lelek April 14 2018 22: 21
      +1
      Quote: konstantin68
      Syria-Skripal - where is the logic?

      hi
      Let me speculate. The rulers of Albion to minimize the losses from the "Brexit" came up with a scam "beginner creak." A scam is raw and obviously burn-out (which is proved by the conclusions of chemists from Swiss laboratories). To divert attention from the case of the Skripals, the Britons organize, with the help of their show masters, in white helmets, a movie about the allegedly chemical. Assad’s attack in Ghouta. The brave showman Don Trump, to maintain the prestige of the alma mater, organizes “thunderstorms” against Syria and Russia, calls for his vassals to take part in this, of which only England and France agree (it’s a pity they didn’t invite Ruin to this action - they would rush ahead of the engine). Well, then what happened happened. Summary: A scam with the Skripals is falling apart, OPCW specialists are working in Gut (I'm not sure that they will tell the truth) and the truth will still prevail. So that we are waiting for interesting events. yes
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 14 2018 18: 13
    +1
    As if this was for someone a secret behind seven seals! Lavrov would now have to explain about the failure to fulfill the promise to sink the rocket carriers, all the more so since more than 100 pieces caused damage, and we seemed to be out of business.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 April 14 2018 18: 55
      0
      And who is now listening to our Foreign Ministry? last 117 Chinese warning. We are balabol.
    2. Норд
      Норд April 14 2018 19: 36
      +4
      Well, then you are definitely Herculesych in business because you write the same crap from branch to branch. And do not give a damn about you, which has been explained a thousand times in which cases they will sink and bring down. Is it a limited mind or a task worth spoiling your country sooner? Well then change the profile picture or put on your underpants.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny April 14 2018 23: 23
        -2
        so he writes - "we are balabol."
        Obviously there are a lot of them. And all as one - these are the same.
    3. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov April 14 2018 19: 52
      +1
      One more mess in my head, let me tell you again personally. First, where does Lavrov (the diplomat) have to do with Gerasimov (the military) talking about this? Secondly, there were not promises to drown rocket carriers, but there were promises to take retaliatory measures of influence (it is not necessary to drown; sink a warship - do not wash your fingers on the keyboard, and it is not necessary to drown them in this case). Thirdly, there were promises to retaliate against rocket carriers in the event of a threat to the life of Russian military personnel. In this case, the blows were not inflicted on the locations of the Russian military or other Russian citizens, and not a single person was killed at all (3 of the wounded, it seems). Eh, for a long time we will suffer from all this, we neither need Theresa May nor any Psaki to become victims of propaganda. Apparently, this all flows into empty heads perfectly, directly fills the voids in front of our eyes.
      http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5024872
      https://tsargrad.tv/news/jekspert-objasnil-pochem
      u-rossija-ne-dala-otvet-na-raketnyj-udar-ssha-po-
      sirii_125493
      https://tsargrad.tv/articles/divannye-jeksperty-t
      rebujut-otvetki-reakcija-socsetej-na-udar-ssha-po
      -sirii_125574
    4. siemens7774
      siemens7774 April 14 2018 20: 40
      0
      Herculesych, you’re wrong. Out of 110 missiles, 73 were destroyed. The damage was minimal. 3 people were injured. Before the attack, all the troops were taken out of the attack. It’s just a production opera to play along with Trump. At the same time, train to attack a large group of the Kyrgyz Republic.
  8. rruvim
    rruvim April 14 2018 18: 14
    +5
    The picture is looming:
    Trump will soon accuse the CIA of misinformation about a chemical attack in Eastern Ghouta (purges will begin at the CIA and NSA);
    The European integrators will blame May and the "company" for misinformation about the Skripals, Johnson will step down and so on.
    Mnogokhodovka. However yes
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn April 14 2018 18: 26
      +2
      Interesting idea good
      I, you, will remember .... wink drinks
  9. konstantin68
    konstantin68 April 14 2018 18: 18
    +4
    Quote: Herkulesich
    As if this was for someone a secret behind seven seals! Lavrov would now have to explain about the failure to fulfill the promise to sink the rocket carriers, all the more so since more than 100 pieces caused damage, and we seemed to be out of business.

    I repeat once again: there is nothing to explain to Lavrov, she did not have the right of the Russian Federation to shoot down American missiles, is it really not clear? Syria and I are not military allies! Ours can only be blamed for the fact that they could not stop the bombing by all available methods, diplomatic, military threats, political exchanges, etc. But here it must be understood that Trump could not turn on the back. So far we have dispersed like this.
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 14 2018 18: 21
    +5
    Lavrov marks the helm ... wink
    1. Cat
      Cat April 14 2018 18: 42
      +3
      And the second Skripale cat left !!!
      Teresa, are you sure your house rats are safe!
      Donald, and you checked sneakers for a long time ...... that is damp and smells! laughing
  11. Operator
    Operator April 14 2018 18: 25
    +1
    Chu - the same zablab of a chemical laboratory from Porton Down was overflowing with a nightingale, which is impossible to determine the origin of the substance. And also openly lied about the chemical composition of the substance - like it is from the Novice line.

    Interestingly, the OPCW said in the secret part of their report on the study of a toxic substance at the request of Britain (the secret part should be sent today to all members of the OPCW, including Russia).

    Is it possible that the Okhovites will confirm the Swiss conclusion on the NATO substance BZ, temporarily incapacitating a person - exactly like the "resurrected" Skripals? laughing
    1. Operator
      Operator April 14 2018 18: 54
      +4
      Bashkir State Medical University of the Ministry of Health and Social Development of the Russian Federation
      Department of mobilization preparation of health and disaster medicine
      Lectures on toxicology and medical protection for medical students
      BZ (Bi-Zet) is a benzylic acid 3-hydroxy-quinquedilated ester. It is a solid crystalline substance without color and odor, characterized by thermal stability. The average effective concentration (ECt50) of smoke obtained by thermal sublimation of BZ is equal to 0,1 g * min / cubic meter and above. For water and foodborne infections, the average effective dose (ED50) of BZ is 0,2 mg / kg (0,2 mg / L). Fatal injuries of BZ can occur in hermetically enclosed rooms at ultrahigh concentrations of more than 100 g * min / cubic meter.

      The chemical formula of BZ is C₂₁H₂₃NO₃ (i.e., phosphorus is completely absent).

      BZ is a narcotic substance (loss of orientation, hallucinations, fainting, amnesia), and not a nerve agent (paralysis of organs of the human body, including respiratory muscles).

      Other names for BZ are QNB, EA 2277 (USA), T2532 (United Kingdom), CS 4030, 3-quinuclidinyl benzylate, 3-quinuclidyl ether of diphenyloxyacetic acid, 3-quinuclidyl ether of diphenylglycolic acid, 1-aza-X-n-bicycline -ol benzylate; “Agent buzz” CAS: 2.2.2-3-13004 (C56H3NO21 · HCl)

      PS Since the Prime Minister of Great Britain and the laborer of a chemical laboratory from the Porton Down British military base deliberately misinformed the public about the supposedly organophosphorus substance, they were the ones who caused the temporary poisoning of Skripale and the police officer in Salisbury.
  12. Strashila
    Strashila April 14 2018 18: 26
    0
    Actually it’s interesting, the conclusion is completely different from the previous one ... and the first conclusion that Britain waved at ... did she send different samples to different laboratories ... ??? That even at such a level of fraud and provocation ... now we are waiting for the statement of Britain ... that the laboratory is not correct.
  13. groks
    groks April 14 2018 18: 29
    +2
    Generally magical. BZ is a psychomimetic. Why use it at all in this case? It’s hard for them to kill. Well, it would be a mistake for a day, they didn’t eat with spoons.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim April 14 2018 18: 56
      0
      It depends on what concentration ... In any case, if the English origin of this drug is voiced by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, then this seems to be true. Higher diplomats just do not rush words ...
      1. groks
        groks April 14 2018 19: 07
        0
        There are tons of more accessible things. Maybe it was just an overdose?
        1. rruvim
          rruvim April 14 2018 19: 15
          0
          Maybe an overdose ... But the Swiss have clearly indicated that the organophosphorus compound is not present in the samples of phosphorus molecules .. That is, this alchemical substance is neither a "Beginner", nor, moreover, a "Sailor", "Snowman" and "Old Man" "...
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin April 14 2018 20: 50
      0
      Quote: groks
      Generally magical. BZ is a psychomimetic. Why use it at all in this case? It’s hard for them to kill. Well, it would be a mistake for a day, they didn’t eat with spoons.

      And who said that the Skripals were buggy longer? Teresa May with Borea? So they lie like breathing.
      1. groks
        groks April 14 2018 21: 01
        0
        With such symptoms, they would simply have been bored with foolishness and it would never have occurred to anyone that they had been poisoned. Few Nariks in England?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny April 14 2018 23: 29
          -2
          This is if you didn’t poison yourself, and you don’t know what happened to the person.
          And if everyone is in the know ...
          The main thing is to play a fatal poisoning - with the public and journalists, immerse yourself in a car, and there, at least immediately come to your senses. The play is played.
  14. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL April 14 2018 18: 30
    +1
    why the information of the center in the Swiss city of Spitz on the incident with the poisoning of ex-colonel of the GRU Sergei Skripal and his daughter Julia in Salisbury was not taken into account and was generally omitted in the final document ...

    1. Cat
      Cat April 14 2018 19: 01
      +2
      Opa! A cat in a slipper shit! laughing
  15. 501Legion
    501Legion April 14 2018 18: 31
    +4
    what is there to wonder at Wada. herada and these other structures act in the interests of you know who. I won’t be surprised if in the Duma they find traces of the substance. There is a blatant, just blatant attack on the law, and Russia has essentially declared a war in essence.
  16. Giants
    Giants April 14 2018 18: 36
    +3
    Bravo, Lavrov! The ČT24 channel has just started Lavrov’s entire speech, which is simply unbelievable given the channel’s anti-virus policy (the main information channel in the Czech Republic). I was surprised by the fact that it was aired, given the fact that their politicians again quickly licked allies from NATO and the EU.
  17. beeper
    beeper April 14 2018 18: 39
    +1
    I had no doubt that with the violinists the British provocation was, as recently as in the Syrian Duma request
  18. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 14 2018 18: 39
    0
    Why, why !!! ??? - because the organized crime group !!!
  19. Nikolay Kuznetsov
    Nikolay Kuznetsov April 14 2018 18: 43
    +2
    Yes, we’ll erase again !!!! What would the Americans do with SUCH trump cards? AND? That's just the same! And ours? Proudly extinguish washing away other people's spit ...
    1. Mestny
      Mestny April 14 2018 23: 32
      -1
      Yes, wipe yourself there already, trolls. Or wash yourself.
      A better wash off.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 14 2018 23: 37
        +1
        Quote: Mestny
        A better laugh ...

        ... to the toilet wassat
        Dreams Dreams request
  20. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir April 14 2018 18: 45
    +2
    Why are we all making excuses and making excuses ...? They answered once that they did not do this and demanded evidence of our participation and that's enough! Let them creak there ...
  21. Kent0001
    Kent0001 April 14 2018 18: 46
    +3
    Is it interesting to anyone besides Lavrov now? Beat the tail-calling of our Foreign Ministry. We were pecked with a Boeing, now the Skripals, a chemical attack in the Duma. We do not answer, we are sitting in a blank defense, we lose the remaining authority and do not protect those who believe in us. And the reason for all this is the money of our aligarchs in the west.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim April 14 2018 19: 05
      0
      You may be sitting in "dead defense". And here lol I drink vodka, and I’m “fucking up” as the Masons turn world affairs ... Interestingly, damn it ...
  22. artifact
    artifact April 14 2018 19: 09
    0
    Vanga, in my opinion, prophesied that around our time there will be almost a chemical war in Europe. everything goes to this campaign.
  23. Grigory b
    Grigory b April 14 2018 19: 19
    0
    So, now Mother Teresa will refuse the boycott of the World Cup? I personally will be offended, I already bought her place.
  24. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha April 14 2018 19: 38
    0
    Bastards and will remain bastards. In general, such bodies as the OPCW should be created from members from almost all continents of the Earth, and not from Western countries. Laboratories should also be in all continents, and then somehow it will be possible to hope for a real conclusion, and not for lies.
  25. rudolff
    rudolff April 14 2018 20: 04
    +1
    Well, why didn’t they quote further Lavrov?
    "The samples also revealed a nerve agent A234, says Lavrov.
    “According to experts, the established high significant concentration of A234 would inevitably lead to death,” he said.
    A234, is one of three unitary chemical agents, on the basis of which all Beginners were developed according to the Foliant program. So, not everything is so simple, someone has thoroughly sophisticated with this chemistry.
    1. bk316
      bk316 April 14 2018 23: 58
      +3
      So, not everything is so simple

      And what is ambiguous here?
      Travanuli with a Bizet - that's why they stayed alive. And a novice was added to the analyzes, only when you add something to the analyzes it is VERY hard to calculate the dose, well, they went too far. So it was with meldonium, if anyone remembers.
  26. a housewife
    a housewife April 14 2018 20: 17
    0
    Why, why ... because who will admit accusations on himself. As if it were immediately incomprehensible.
  27. andrew xnumx
    andrew xnumx April 14 2018 20: 29
    +2
    One must be very tough on Britain. For example, send another 50 of their diplomats (spies) from the country. In general, you need to understand that the Anglo-Saxons are incredibly insidious and dangerous. There should be as few as possible in our country. All exchange programs, etc. connected with the USA, Great Britain must be urgently closed. Any of their NGOs should also be immediately closed, because it has already become clear that these are not democratic countries at all. For democracy does not rely on aggression and monstrous lies.
  28. dojjdik
    dojjdik April 14 2018 20: 31
    +1
    urgently gather the whole UN for the next meeting and sit and sit and sit again — you can collect the United Nations 2 times and three times a day — the main thing is to read the papers to express protests and concerns and continue to sit until the pulse is lost and most importantly they will justify themselves and justify the United Nations again two hundred thousand corpses have already helped in Yugoslavia both in Iraq and in Libya, not to mention Lebanon and Syria, half a million corpses, and even in the Donbas, children were resurrected - that’s what the life-giving UN does
  29. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force April 14 2018 20: 48
    +1
    all, let's bomb in Britain for poisoning civilians, how they bomb Syria for supposedly a chemical attack
  30. PValery53
    PValery53 April 14 2018 21: 18
    0
    And why haven’t the gas faucets been shut off yet to the Aglitsky shit ?! - Traitors in Russia ?!
  31. 1536
    1536 April 14 2018 22: 29
    0
    Yes, in general, in Russia, few doubted this. The question is, will this information reach the public in Western countries and, above all, the people of the United States?
  32. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 14 2018 22: 59
    0
    But the West will not hear this news. In general, I always dreamed of seeing how rot would so clearly flow from these freaks.
    1. Looking for
      Looking for April 14 2018 23: 37
      0
      And here it is necessary. To hear. The Foreign Ministry does exist for that. To bring to the international community the opinion and positions of his country
  33. Domestic cat
    Domestic cat April 14 2018 23: 00
    +1
    Quote: Monos
    Based on the results of the examination, traces of the toxic chemical BZ and its precursors were found in the samples ...

    They took BZ and densely sprinkled with “Novice”, nobody guessed Schaub. Amateurs! And these guys from the OPCW are cunning! Hid the facts.

    Most likely, the OPCW was frightened that if they voiced the truth, they would simply be dispersed. Or maybe there was just an amphetamine, the creaks fell asleep, and woke up already in the hospital from which they probably would never leave.
  34. Looking for
    Looking for April 14 2018 23: 33
    -1
    This should be stated not in their own penises, but from the UN rostrum. And not to their advice .. And to the leaders of all countries of the world.
  35. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper April 14 2018 23: 40
    0
    Here it is. How much they screamed about the organophosphorus, but it all ended with a banal BZ.
  36. sabakina
    sabakina April 14 2018 23: 56
    +4
    You laugh in vain. The Skripals had cats at home. They managed to euthanize one while trying to escape, and the other, Masyana, managed to disappear. Scotland Yard suspects that they were Russian scouts who were following the Skripals. Cats are very sensitive, can see well in the dark, can move silently. For the British, it’s very real that they were spy cats.
    1. Balagan
      Balagan April 15 2018 03: 17
      +1
      Zakharova even called the runaway title)))
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 15 2018 06: 34
        +1
        The Ingles have very strict pet cruelty laws. The death of a cat — its cruel killing — is a good reason to promote the Skripals business from this side. It is necessary to sue those who did not take care of the pigs and the cat, who brought the cat to stress, to investigate whether the condition of the cat was examined correctly, whether the possibility of its rehabilitation was used, especially since the daughter of the owner of the cat had woken up by that time whether the procedure for consent of the owners to kill the animal, the procedure for killing itself, the procedure for destroying the body was excessively cynical and inhumane (burning with a flamethrower), etc. , and May, including, moreover, the "green" parties to set against the "cruel" British government.
    2. bsk_una
      bsk_una April 15 2018 09: 12
      +1

      Well this is necessary, the naglitsy saw through the agents of Russia, MI-6 and MI-5 are not sleeping and not asleep. The whole zoo suffered from exposure!
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 15 2018 10: 59
        0
        Yes, it’s just bad that this event in Russia is being translated into a “joke”, but how can you play it, competently using jurisprudence! Unfortunately, the use of Western jurisprudence and legislation for their own purposes is Russia's weakest side in international relations. Western "partners" are aware of this and are using it to the full.
  37. Balagan
    Balagan April 15 2018 03: 16
    0
    Thrust away. Geyrope such conclusions are not nat))
  38. Yuri isaev
    Yuri isaev April 15 2018 07: 06
    +3
    The people do not understand. The mass indoctrination of the western layman is ALREADY COMPLETED. In the OPCW report, information about the use of organic substances produced by NATO countries was not published on purpose intentionally. Time is lost. And now you can say anything, give any evidence. Even if a representative of Western or American intelligence speaks with repentance and talks about what happened in detail, no one in the West will hear that. All. The train left! The culprit represented by Russia was APPOINTED and is not subject to review. And in this case no evidence is required. The same thing for chem. weapons in Syria. The Americans achieved their goal with these provocations — a missile attack on Syrian targets was completed. And the allies are "tied with blood."
  39. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 15 2018 08: 17
    0
    I have a question. This is exactly where Lavrov is "declared"? On which CBOP? And if you "decipher" it turns out that he "declared" at a meeting of the XXVI Assembly of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy! That is, on the internal "cabal"! And for whom? Who again learns about this abroad? Yes, none of the broad masses, except for the "narrow circle" of interest. And why, would Lavrov not get an international briefing from journalists and not tell the whole world about it? For media outlets to spread his message around the world? This behavior of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs amazes me — they mumble something or slurred, or plaintively justify themselves, or speak out loudly ..... on the sidelines, for internal use ....
    1. bsk_una
      bsk_una April 15 2018 09: 05
      0
      I agree that some honeymooners are arranging all over the world: someone whispers spells, someone tries as if something did not work out, Nebenzya almost kisses the woman in the UN. Why then weave the people, he has nothing more to do, how to listen to the chimes? Russia is full of worries that the Medvedevs, Shuvalovs, Christians, Chubais, Nabiulins and other bastards, the so-called parliamentarians, have bred on the grub of the people.
  40. bsk_una
    bsk_una April 15 2018 08: 59
    0
    It is necessary to expel all employees from the citizens, closing the embassy. Official diplomatic relations do not need to be broken, maybe someone in the United Kingdom will be hit with urine in the future and want to resume normal relations with Russia.
  41. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 15 2018 10: 02
    +1
    The Swiss laboratory has already refuted the words of Comrade Lavrov:
    "A statement from the Spitz lab has been posted on the institution’s Twitter account.
    Experts emphasize that the conclusion of the British Porton Down laboratory on
    that the former GRU colonel Sergei Skripal and his daughter Julia were poisoned with nerve
    the substance "Beginner", "no doubt." "/////

    More details: https://www.newsru.com/world/15apr2018/lavrovswis
    s.html
    Lavrov "distorted" the card.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 15 2018 10: 14
      +1
      It turns out Lavrov lied? Where did he get this information from? Or vice versa, the "laboratory in Spitz" played back, not wanting to go "against all", realizing that this is "crazy"?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 15 2018 11: 02
        0
        The Swiss also found the basic component of the Novice in their analyzes.
        But they wrote that the description of the symptoms of poisoning seems
        on substance BZ. Which is a non-lethal hallucigenic drug.
        With an overdose, you can die, but difficult.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 15 2018 11: 19
          0
          Clear. “Spitz” smoothly jumped off the topic, not daring to go “against everyone”, but just in case, “covered his ass”, expressing “doubt”. A blood test if you take it is not a self-complete bullshit. The Russians know this from the story of the “drunk boy”. I am simply struck by such "amazing" credulity of specialists from different countries who "received samples" of blood from the hands of the British ...
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 15 2018 12: 19
            0
            Chemical laboratories value their prof. reputations. Same
            The answer was given by several of the best laboratories.
            They were given not only blood tests, but also samples of the collected
            substances.
            English forensics are, in principle, the best in Europe. Born there
            classic forensics with all the methods that are now common
            The world.
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  43. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 April 15 2018 10: 55
    0
    Strange questions are asked by Lavrov. Even a goat understands what the OPCW bought, or rather, it is an Anglo-Saxon structure.
  44. Nikolayt
    Nikolayt April 15 2018 10: 59
    0
    The laboratory did not know that Lavrov moonlighted at her as a press secretary, therefore completely refuted his words.