So who attacked the T-4? Israeli command does not comment on accusations

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Details continue to be received on the launch of a missile attack on the Syrian airbase T4 in the province of Homs. It became known that about two dozen cruise missiles reached their goals. 8 missiles were intercepted by air defense systems.

The United States continues to deny its involvement in the airstrike, although in the event of an attack on Al-Shairat air base last year, Trump immediately announced that it was a strike from an American warship.



Against this background, the network is discussing the question of what could have been done from an Israeli submarine or using means aviation. The Lebanese television channel Al-Mayadin reports that at the time of the shelling of the air base with missiles that flew through Lebanese airspace, Israeli Air Force planes were seen in the air.

So who attacked the T-4? Israeli command does not comment on accusations


It became known that the press service of the Israeli army refused to comment on information about the possible involvement of the Air Force or the Israeli Navy in the attack on the T-4 military base.

At the same time, it is commented on social networks like this: “If the United States or Israel are involved in the attack, then in any case they could not have been unaware that Russian military personnel could be at the Syrian airbase in Homs province”.

The Russian defense ministry has not yet published official comments on the situation on the T-4.
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  1. +9
    April 9 2018 07: 32
    A touchstone is cast, what will be the answer?
    1. +6
      April 9 2018 07: 57
      Like last time, probably. Let me remind you that T4 was actively used by ours during the assault on Palmyra. Perhaps after that.
      Now they write that it was used by Iran.
      1. +12
        April 9 2018 08: 11
        Quote: Leeds
        Now they write that it was used by Iran.

        There is now an Iranian base, ours are not there. It means the work of Israel. This is the very base of Tiyas, during the attack of which the Israeli f-16 was shot down, earlier it was used as a jump airfield for our helicopters.
        Perhaps the strike was delivered by KR Delilah. In December 2017, Israel hit these missiles from Lebanese airspace against an Iranian target in the suburbs of Damascus, then not all missiles hit the target as they are now.
        1. +6
          April 9 2018 08: 17
          If the Israeli missiles, it turns out Israel framed the United States. This is the United States threatened to strike! Or there was an agreement between them - which is most likely. And it is strange that the strike was carried out by cruise missiles, and not from an airplane, what is it, a check of Russia on the fulfillment of promises?
          1. +4
            April 9 2018 08: 19
            One without the other does not work in this area, but Israel could have “played”.
            1. +2
              April 9 2018 08: 22
              Quote: cniza
              One without the other does not work in this area, but Israel could have “played”.

              Israel usually "plays" with air missiles, and here cruise ...
              1. +6
                April 9 2018 08: 23
                Too little information, and there is enough stuffing of all sorts, why are ours silent?
                1. +5
                  April 9 2018 08: 24
                  Quote: cniza
                  Too little information, and there is enough stuffing of all sorts, why are ours silent?

                  Our General Staff apparently takes an example from Putin - they are holding a theatrical pause.
                  1. +16
                    April 9 2018 08: 32
                    Quote: SRC P-15
                    Quote: cniza
                    Too little information, and there is enough stuffing of all sorts, why are ours silent?

                    Our General Staff apparently takes an example from Putin - they are holding a theatrical pause.

                    Yes, they just think how to explain to the people in such a way that it would not be visible that "the king is naked."
                    1. +4
                      April 9 2018 08: 34
                      We’ll see, soon everything will be clarified, but so far there is continuous speculation.
                      1. +2
                        April 9 2018 09: 10
                        Pam Pam...


                        On the other hand, you can find a lot of “if” and “provided” and get out without getting very dirty from the situation.

                        A good answer would be to clean the southwestern enclaves and Deraa with the participation of our advisers.
                    2. +14
                      April 9 2018 08: 36
                      Quote: frezer
                      Yes, they just think how to explain to the people in such a way that it would not be visible that "the king is naked."

                      Dear Joe (Fraser)! Which king - naked or not, he will show himself. And many may not like it.
                      1. +12
                        April 9 2018 08: 47
                        Quote: frezer
                        Quote: SRC P-15
                        Quote: cniza
                        Too little information, and there is enough stuffing of all sorts, why are ours silent?

                        Our General Staff apparently takes an example from Putin - they are holding a theatrical pause.

                        Yes, they just think how to explain to the people in such a way that it would not be visible that "the king is naked."


                        Everyone can judge kings, a language without bones.
                        Only 3/4 of the population voted for the President, which means they trust him.
                        And he, unlike talkers, cannot afford to rush around and fuss

                        It is known for now that the blow was not struck at the “government quarters of Damascus,” as the Americans threatened

                        Then let's see what it was
                        Personally, I don’t want our decision to be made by people like the milling cutter, naked strategists
                    3. +2
                      April 9 2018 09: 25
                      Many generally inadequately assess the people, the majority of voters are women, and they are even against fussing in the Donbass, the war in Syria with Israel, 95 percent of women will be against it.
                    4. +5
                      April 9 2018 09: 46
                      Quote: frezer
                      Yes, they just think how to explain to the people in such a way that it would not be visible that "the king is naked."

                      Yes, completeness to you sir. These are not the showdowns that take place in a beer eatery, when they hit the face for foam and underfilling. Here you really need to think about who and for what purpose arranged a provocation. Ours did not say that they are fully responsible for the whole sky of Syria, in addition, Syria has its own air defense forces, which also eat bread for good reason. It is good that our military thinker initially works, and then the answer is turned on, and not vice versa. There was no blow to the objects covered by our air defense systems. And what damage is there from this blow? Several wounded w / c? I do not think that this was the end in itself of the blow. Here obviously other goals were pursued ....
                    5. 0
                      April 9 2018 21: 07
                      Now, you know who shot and what shot .... Maybe make it clear? I heard that the rockets were air-to-ground ... They lie?
              2. +3
                April 9 2018 08: 26
                Well Duc cruise missiles with F-16.

                It was a test cast. How will they respond. What radar will illuminate on reflection. On the basis of this, they will strike the main blow (or several blows) on a number of targets, already Americans.
          2. +4
            April 9 2018 08: 27
            What's the setup? They took and fucked either one or the other. Brought into combat S-400 were not used. I hope that ours were warned where, what flies (apparently, it was), if not, then this one, of course, is a disgrace.
            8 shot down missiles by SAR forces - a fairy tale. In general, our words were checked.
          3. 0
            April 9 2018 08: 52
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And it is strange that the strike was carried out by cruise missiles, and not from an airplane, what is it, a check of Russia on the fulfillment of promises?

            Why is it strange, with a multipurpose pl, they fucked, the ends in the water so that they did not drown right away. Israel hardly needs it, Gopnik striped it. IL-38N appeared there in advance, they again impose a play on them.
          4. +5
            April 9 2018 09: 09
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            it is strange that the strike was carried out by cruise missiles, and not from an airplane, what is it, a check of Russia on the fulfillment of promises?

            KR Delilah has the option of both land and sea, air based

            14.02.18/07.02.18/10.02.18 Izvestia published an article about the events of XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. With links to a source in the Syrian General Staff and confirmation of "representatives of the Russian military department and the military-industrial complex" the following was reported:

            10.02.18/XNUMX/XNUMX Syrian air defense forces had to repulse a massive strike using airborne missile systems; the main objectives of the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners were not airplanes, but air-ground missiles launched outside the country's airspace;

            as a result of the first raid, 8 out of 11 discovered Israeli missiles were destroyed, and in the second attack of 7 missiles - 5;



            all Syrian calculations operated independently, but earlier Russian specialists assisted in restoring the technical readiness of the S-125, S-200 and Buk air defense systems;

            during another raid, 07.02.18/8/200 Israeli Air Force aircraft entered Syrian airspace and launched 6 air-to-ground missiles at the building of the National Science Center in the city of Salamia, Hama province; Then, the Pantsir-S, S-2 and Buk missile systems destroyed XNUMX missiles; the remaining XNUMX fell in the area of ​​the Center, without causing significant damage;

            in the raids on February 7th and 10th it was precisely the KR that used to fly at low altitude (i.e., we are not talking about planning UABs, for example, Spice-2000 is capable of planning for 60 km when dropped from high altitude, Spice-1000 - per 100 km); 26 out of 19 goals were intercepted, which gives an efficiency close to 0.8 (more precisely, 0.73).


            To be continued, Israel will do everything to prevent the presence of the Iranian WB in Syria. And Assad is their worst enemy, no one hid that chaos and war in Syria are more beneficial for Israel than the pro-Iranian regime, as they say.
            1. AUL
              0
              April 9 2018 09: 47
              Actually, an interesting point - why were the launches of the Kyrgyz Republic conducted? Reported about 20 missiles that reached T4 and 8 shot down. 20 + 8 = 28. If this is an air launch - a robust squadron of aircraft should have worked, it is impossible not to notice this. Although it is reported vaguely that "Israeli aviation activity was noticed", but in this situation this is not the case.
              Start with submarines? How many KR can be in dizelyuh Israel? How many submarines should participate in the operation for such a salvo? Also doubtful ...
              But something like MAPL Virginia or Elk - they can! Or a surface ship. But the surface target would be spotted immediately, and would have been trumped to the whole world, but the submarine, IMHO, is the most likely candidate. Yes, only Trump and Co. will not split at all, and we will pretend that we believe him.
              1. +1
                April 9 2018 12: 23
                Yes, cruise missiles could launch from anything - boats, new German submarines, aircraft, etc. In the Russian Federation and the United States, ordinary containers that are self-sufficient PUs have been developed in general with a look - I put them on a dry cargo ship and here is an attack ship.
                1. AUL
                  0
                  April 9 2018 19: 51
                  Now the news has already voiced new information: the blow was dealt by the Israeli F16 UR air-to-ground. 8 rockets fired, 3 shot down. A completely different situation!
                  1. 0
                    April 9 2018 19: 54
                    and what is the other situation? the same thing - airplanes, launch, air defense work, hits.
                    And the numbers are likely to be lies there and there. what has changed?
            2. dSK
              0
              April 9 2018 19: 31
              Quote: Ascetic
              To be continued, Israel will do everything

              Israel has full-fledged "nuclear triad" and is the sixth nuclear power in the world. According to various estimates, in 2006 in the arsenal of Israel there were about 200 nuclear charges. Israel did not join the "Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons".(Wikipedia)
              By cunning, Israel ranks first. For Syria, it’s very “serious”, primary enemy.
    2. +4
      April 9 2018 08: 23
      It seems they promised to destroy not only missiles, but also carriers. We will see
    3. +2
      April 9 2018 08: 49
      Israeli submarine missile route
      1. +2
        April 9 2018 10: 24
        If you take and remove the word USA in politics and put Israel in this place, everything becomes clear in the geopolitical game.
    4. 0
      April 9 2018 12: 31
      no - like no one confessed ... and all with his
    5. 0
      April 9 2018 13: 50
      You can not give in to provocations! Now, if they had shy away from the Russian base, another thing.
    6. 0
      April 9 2018 17: 20
      Russia will express concern, what protest can it express! what hi
  2. +1
    April 9 2018 07: 33
    Normal tactics. We will bomb but will not admit.
    1. +7
      April 9 2018 07: 45
      all tracking systems already know who hit
      1. +4
        April 9 2018 09: 04
        Above the surface carrier, it is still possible to determine who, and underwater? In any case, everyone has their own rockets and the owner will be determined!
        Aviation? according to the type of missiles, it will be determined who their master is, not to hide this, but each one has his own.
        What about tracking systems? - the question is ambiguous. Started up, then what? They didn’t fly towards our base, they didn’t fly to ships, so this is a matter for Syria’s air defense, and there was still no horse lying around, very limited in capabilities.
        Question what to do? Everything is not clear yet!
        In short, the question is pending!
      2. 0
        April 9 2018 13: 52
        What other tracking systems? There could be no satellites there, and all radars are limited in range.
    2. +3
      April 9 2018 08: 54
      If we talk about tactics, it turns out something like this. If the air defense did not work out well, the United States would declare its strike and continue to shoot. But this does not happen, but "it is not clear who" shot, that is, Israel. This means that the Americans did not like the effectiveness of air defense. I think it can be considered a victory.
      1. +2
        April 9 2018 10: 28
        I don’t know what a victory it is, but here’s a proposal to help. et definitely!
  3. +7
    April 9 2018 07: 36
    We are waiting for comments from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    1. +4
      April 9 2018 07: 48
      Quote: Hunter 2
      We are waiting for comments from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

      Well, it seems like a part of the missiles was shot down - it’s not a problem to establish whose request
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 09: 17
        The problem is that they shot down in words. But they will install along the debris around the craters of the broken-down T4, if they (20) flew the cannes and did not fall, as it was the last time.
        1. 0
          April 9 2018 13: 57
          Yes, there one thing fell! It was shown everywhere. How can I drop the tomahawks? EW systems against them will not help, but it is very difficult to bring them down; they fly low. The shell may simply not have time to react. But the S-4000 wasn’t everywhere then.
  4. +3
    April 9 2018 07: 40
    I didn’t understand something: they write here "About two dozen cruise missiles reached their goal. 8 missiles were intercepted by air defense systems." in the other place "8 missiles shot down, the rest fell in the area of ​​the base without causing damage". who is right interesting?
    1. SOF
      +4
      April 9 2018 07: 46
      Quote: K0
      who is right interesting?

      ... you have to wait until the tantrum "settles" ....
      Anyway, in the open, goblins are already doing this. Sly now. The conditions of the problem are changing ...
    2. +1
      April 9 2018 10: 04
      Missiles shot down, but all the targets at the base are destroyed.
      The usual roundup. wink
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 12: 26
        somehow it sounds silly that all goals are destroyed
        The 8 actively opposed missiles are simply not capable of hitting all targets
        or was there a goal of the level “to frighten the favorite kitten of the base manager”?
        1. 0
          April 9 2018 12: 38
          Usually, Israel is trying to destroy all its goals.
          If it does not work out the first time, there is a safety net - the second wave.
          As regards intercepted missiles, it is unclear whether there were target coasters among them.
          (rockets with artificially increased EPR to facilitate hits for air defense).
          In this case, half-stealth combat missiles are easier to pass through
          to goals.
          Air defense reports on interceptions, the Air Force reports on hits: everything is true, everyone is happy. fellow
          1. 0
            April 9 2018 14: 56
            I specifically wrote vaguely “counteracted”, because obviously part of it
            it is simply extremely doubtful that such a mean volley at a long distance with an unlikely real-time correction suddenly hit all targets, especially since the accuracy of cruise missiles is far from ideal.
            Therefore, the question arises about the goals themselves. In my opinion, if they are achieved,
            then they were far from the ones they officially proclaimed, justifying such vile attacks.
            1. 0
              April 9 2018 14: 58
              "if they are achieved, then they were far from those that officially proclaimed," ///

              Let's watch the video before-after. If not everything is destroyed, there will be a new raid

              "that the accuracy of cruise missiles is far from ideal." ////

              This is you about Gauges, which do not have IR "eyes" in GOS. There up to 10 m
              And in the Kyrgyz Republic, accuracy (for a fixed target) is very high - up to 1 KVO ..
              1. 0
                April 9 2018 15: 03
                but in fact, what is destroyed?
                Israel stated that it counteracts the traffic of arms for organizing terrorist attacks through Syrian bases on the territory of Lebanon and thus justified its attacks. (as I understand)
                The question - how is this connected with the air base and most importantly - it seems to me simply unbelievable that you can get information about such targeted movements at the base.
                And I do not share your belief that there was a reason for the attack at all.
              2. 0
                April 9 2018 21: 17
                1m CVO can only be with laser illumination or if there is a pre-installed “beacon” on the target.
                1. 0
                  April 9 2018 22: 13
                  Enough scanning IR video camera in the rocket head. She also manages to transfer the photo a split second before hitting the target.
  5. +4
    April 9 2018 07: 44
    and no one saw anything? but what about all these surveillance and early warning systems. 20 rockets out of nowhere?
    1. +3
      April 9 2018 07: 48
      Yes, everyone knows everything, it's just a game of diplomacy. One thing is not clear, why are we playing this game? It’s the same as for pinning with sharplers.
      1. +3
        April 9 2018 07: 49
        some kidding
    2. +1
      April 9 2018 08: 04
      and no one saw anything? but what about all these surveillance and early warning systems. 20 rockets out of nowhere?

      I have already spoken out - Martians ... The trajectory is perpendicular to the surface!
      1. +1
        April 9 2018 09: 14
        surface of mars? lol
    3. +1
      April 9 2018 10: 06
      Quote: novel xnumx
      and no one saw anything? but what about all these surveillance and early warning systems. 20 rockets out of nowhere?

      Those who know hold consultations through military diplomatic channels. Two days will pass - and the details will become known.
      But 8 out of 28 missiles - that’s not enough! Even with the use of the old S-200. And there probably Buki worked. Although the difficulties of detection are obvious - radars can see these missiles already practically over the territory of Syria: the launch site and the flight over Lebanon are covered by a relief. hi
      1. +2
        April 9 2018 10: 09
        in the news they just said - the Jews gushed
        1. +1
          April 9 2018 10: 17
          Quote: novel xnumx
          in the news they just said - the Jews gushed


          So this is the best way: since Trump did not immediately confess, it means Israel! But Israel does not need to invent an excuse - it is at war with Syria a long time ago. hi

          Oh - just the news from MO - and again questions!
          The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation said that Israel hit an air strike at an airfield in the Syrian province of Homs. Missiles fired at Tifor Israeli fighter F-15, used eight guided warheads.
          Russian advisers were not affected ....
          Source: https://newinform.com/113740-mo-rf-aviaudar-po-si
          riiskomu-aerodromu-sovershen-izrailem? from = push & a
          mp; utm_source = push

          Interestingly, how many rockets were there?
          1. 0
            April 9 2018 10: 34
            Quote: andj61
            Quote: novel xnumx
            in the news they just said - the Jews gushed


            So this is the best way: since Trump did not immediately confess, it means Israel! But Israel does not need to invent an excuse - it is at war with Syria a long time ago. hi

            Oh - just the news from MO - and again questions!
            The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation said that Israel hit an air strike at an airfield in the Syrian province of Homs. Missiles fired at Tifor Israeli fighter F-15, used eight guided warheads.
            Russian advisers were not affected ....
            Source: https://newinform.com/113740-mo-rf-aviaudar-po-si
            riiskomu-aerodromu-sovershen-izrailem? from = push & a
            mp; a
            mp; utm_source = push

            Interestingly, how many rockets were there?

            8 guided warheads - as I understand it, 8 missiles, the Syrians shot down (no less than 8 according to their statement) - the output of 14 dead at the base is suicide bombers who blew themselves up laughing
            1. 0
              April 9 2018 10: 38
              No, they’re from fear, probably ....
              1. +2
                April 9 2018 10: 45
                Quote: Shahno
                No, they’re from fear, probably ....

                No, from terrible hatred ... request
                We must wait for more detailed and official information. And then at first they report - from submarines, then from F-15 or F-16 ... And not 8 missiles were intercepted, but 5 out of 8. https://inforeactor.ru/145199-istrebiteli-f-15-ar
                mii-izrailya-atakovali-siriiskii-aeroport-iz-vosm
                i-raket-bylo-perekhvacheno-pyat? from = push & utm
                _source = push hi
            2. 0
              April 9 2018 12: 28
              14 dead

              whence 14 dead, if the only thing reported by the only party that knows the losses is that there are victims - neither the number nor the presence of the dead - nothing was reported. Go fake nenko throw, your lies are not interested in others.
    4. 0
      April 9 2018 12: 41
      "But what about all these surveillance and early warning systems" ///

      They are not in real time with missile defense. Information comes when you redirect something
      late.
      1. +1
        April 9 2018 15: 07
        to prevent the launch of an already flying rocket is really difficult)))
        but you can counteract the raid - interfere with GPS guidance, activate air defense, shelter personnel, etc.
        I honestly don’t understand how, with the warning received, there were generally losses -
        Does such a base really have no defense system against art / missile raids?
        Even small trenches or ditches, where can I hide?
  6. +1
    April 9 2018 07: 46
    There are not many options.
    The states, Israel are the most probable, and (theoretically) Macron (he has now retired in business) or naglitsy (but these specialize in chemistry).
  7. +2
    April 9 2018 07: 49
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    Normal tactics. We will bomb but will not admit.

    So fragments of 8 rockets themselves will tell from whom they are a gift.
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 10: 30
      "wreckage of 8 missiles"
      Are there any debris? strong doubts about this.
  8. +11
    April 9 2018 07: 53
    Some muddy situation with this missile strike, half. But if there was a missile attack, then this is only Jewish work. Sly and nasty, quietly, silently, without comment - their style.
    1. +2
      April 9 2018 08: 38
      Yes, it is possible that the Yankees, as a world bully with the old tactics of a tiger and a jackal, sent the instigator, that is, an Israeli jerk, while they themselves are watching aside, hang the cradles or not, according to the idea, both persons are asking for canopies, if ours died, I think they won’t let them down will do their job without show off ..
    2. +4
      April 9 2018 09: 33
      Quote: Egorovich
      Some muddy situation with this missile strike, half. But if there was a missile attack, then this is only Jewish work. Sly and nasty, quietly, silently, without comment - their style.

      Damascus, April 9th. The first details of a missile attack on the Syrian Air Force T-4 airbase in the province of Homs became known.

      As the correspondent of the Federal News Agency reports from the scene, the first explosions at the T-4 airbase occurred at about 3.30 in the night. According to reports, at least ten rockets exploded in the area of ​​the air base. A significant part of the missiles was shot down by air defense forces on approaching the air base, the source of the attack has not yet been established, the total number of missiles fired is also being specified.

      As a result of the missile attack, the Syrian Air Force fleet on the T-4 base was not damaged, two fighters of the Iranian forces in Syria were killed, seven more were injured.
    3. 0
      April 9 2018 10: 35
      Quote: Egorovich
      Some muddy situation with this missile strike, half. But if there was a missile attack, then this is only Jewish work. Sly and nasty, quietly, silently, without comment - their style.

      What uh quiet? Very loud - well, and comment? Why should they comment?
      And so everything is clear laughing
  9. +2
    April 9 2018 08: 00
    Everything turns out interesting ... The missiles were launched ... but some missed ... and some were knocked down ... It is clear that no one needs such "Success" ... and now they are being denied authorship ... What can be congratulated on the fact that our air defense works ... and it works very well ...
  10. +1
    April 9 2018 08: 01
    At 4:43 a.m., the Russian air defense center discovered targets approaching from Lebanon in the airspace of the Syrian Arab Republic
    An order was issued for the destruction of the Pantsir C1 and BUK systems by air defense systems, and eight missiles that were sent to the T-4 air base in Homs province were shot down.

    According to RIA Novosti, citing an informed source and Syrian activists, 8 missiles were destroyed.

    Al-Mayadin TV channel reported that rockets attacking the Syrian air base flew through Lebanese airspace from the Mediterranean Sea. Presumably, launches were carried out from Israeli Delfin submarines.

    US denies involvement in strike on Syria.


    Oh Wei ... our allies ... but nothing SteGpim.
  11. +1
    April 9 2018 08: 01
    20 flew, 8 caught. 40% 100 flew, 60 flew. 200 - 120. 120t in my opinion will be enough. recourse
    I ask anti-aircraft gunners to assess the effectiveness of air defense systems.
    1. +6
      April 9 2018 08: 07
      With massaging, the effectiveness of air defense will fall sharply. Up to 0 when the air defense ends.

      On the T-4 there is C-125, C-75 + maybe some other shell / beech pulled.

      And so yes - this is a test ball. Track the reaction. Once it went fine. Then the next with a couple of hundred missiles for a number of important goals - you can already carry out quietly.
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 15: 14
        There are not too expensive ways to counteract massive missile attacks and there are not as crude as they came up with nuclear charges in the atmosphere. But as far as I know, the military-industrial complex does not develop such things seriously, only electronic warfare products indulge, although there is knowledge and technology to create this.
        At least I can immediately suggest a couple of options that stand like a Chubais tablet.
    2. +9
      April 9 2018 08: 44
      It is not known where exactly missiles were targeted. Nobody usually tries to shoot down all missiles. The same principle as working on bombers. They only shoot down those that are on the target or reach the target. Therefore, it is impossible to judge how effective the air defense is in this particular case. the defeat in the first generation of air defense systems was 0,3-0,4. In the second, 0,5-0,7. In those currently in service with the Russian Federation, the complexes have a degree of 0,7-0,9. Absolute is considered 1.0, but none who will not be in the short term. Again, everything will depend on who shoots. The higher the target speed, the lower the probability of hitting. For our 3rd generation systems, the lower threshold starts with a 3,5max. Only supersonic missiles will pass through the air defense shield with a very massive strike. I do not consider ICBM combat units, there are tricks of their own.
      1. +1
        April 9 2018 09: 15
        It is not known where specifically missiles were tagged

        Thank you.
  12. +11
    April 9 2018 08: 03
    After loud statements that the missile strike will not pass, not only not repulsed, but even where the launches are unknown.
    A complete disappointment.
    1. +10
      April 9 2018 08: 16
      Can you throw off the link to these statements? Just do not merge please. And then we will discuss what is said there.
  13. +8
    April 9 2018 08: 05
    Again, the GDP is screwed up. He promised to defend our allies (as I understand the authorities and the Syrian army are our allies) and again only blah blah blah, and again an expression of concern. In short, it’s not responsible for the bazaar
    1. +22
      April 9 2018 08: 12
      Troll? How much pay ? Do not starve?
      1. +10
        April 9 2018 08: 47
        He is not a Troll, he is likely to be Maidan. fool Never mind.
      2. +2
        April 9 2018 15: 42
        Notice how many immediately, according to the order, ovnyukov rushed to the site? When, after another vile provocation, trolls of various stripes (maidanytyh, pysyatykh, starry) raid on our sites, everything falls into place, it immediately becomes clear with what burning garbage the wind blows. And this “witness of brainwashing” also burned with huskies how many of these garbage are present at VO.
        Troll, when will you finally choke on your bile ?!
    2. 0
      April 9 2018 13: 23
      Quote: Visa-free witness
      Again, the GDP is screwed up. He promised to defend our allies (as I understand the authorities and the Syrian army are our allies) and again only blah blah blah, and again an expression of concern. In short, it’s not responsible for the bazaar

      So he cares about you! So yesterday you filled a car under a traffic jam? Scheduled escape routes to the forest? gas mask got it? Dug a dugout in the woods? At least a box of tinned meat dug up? No, but there too. And then there will be crowds of mutants like you running and screaming over the radioactive posts, "Ah, Putin is to blame! Putin did not warn!"
  14. +3
    April 9 2018 08: 07
    if true, then the whole trouble is that no one dares to strike back at Israel — this is a big mistake that generates rudeness of the Jews; if it’s a lie, then someday the shelling will become constant for any rudeness of the dictator Netanyahu and it’s also a mistake, it’s time to understand this for a long time but does not reach
  15. +5
    April 9 2018 08: 10
    The Lebanese television channel Al-Mayadin reports that at the time of the shelling of the air base with missiles that flew precisely through Lebanese airspace, Israeli Air Force planes were seen in the air.

    Yeah. At night, in complete darkness, they determined the nationality of the aircraft. Arabs ...

    At the same time, he commented on social networks something like this: “If the United States or Israel were involved in the attack, in any case they could not have known that at the Syrian air base in the province of Homs can be the Russian military. "

    "May."
    1. +4
      April 9 2018 08: 19
      why is the national identity of the planes recognized only visually?
      1. +4
        April 9 2018 09: 02
        Quote: just EXPL
        why is the national identity of the planes recognized only visually?

        Yeah. An Israeli plane flies to bomb and shouts in all directions in Hebrew. And on the radar it does not shine with a dot, but with a six-pointed star. wassat

        Quote: Yuri Lazarev
        Type and the radar can not track where they arrived and where the planes flew, professor of rotten cabbage soup?

        Some of your superiors recently talked about why C-400 radars that had no analogs in the world overslept the American attack. Set on the curvature of the earth's surface. lol
        Professor of sour cabbage soup. hi
    2. +8
      April 9 2018 08: 28
      Type and the radar can not track where they arrived and where the planes flew, professor of rotten cabbage soup?
      1. +3
        April 9 2018 08: 55
        Quote: Yuri Lazarev
        Type and the radar can not track where they arrived and where the planes flew, professor of rotten cabbage soup?

        Lebanese media have radars what ?
        1. 0
          April 9 2018 11: 27
          It is time in Lebanon to put the S-400, to complete the jackal ....
  16. +6
    April 9 2018 08: 26
    Judging by the fact that Iranian drones were spotted on this base, Israel most likely hit. But the point is not even who struck, but what now to do to Russia. If after the statement that “we will bring down everyone and everything” who strikes Syria without agreement, we will again chew snot, the remnants of respect for our forces will be lost. On the other hand, the cunning could still warn of a blow.
    In any case, it’s unpleasant, a gift to us after the meeting Turkey Iran Russia, and for the upcoming visit of our leadership to Iran
    1. +4
      April 9 2018 08: 46
      On the other hand, the cunning could still warn of a blow.

      Good. The "cunning" warned. We also know about this "cunning". In the eyes of the world community, the "cunning" strong-powerful-phallus put on ...... And we again in the "white tailcoat". So somehow it looks.
  17. +5
    April 9 2018 08: 28
    What difference does it come from. The question is, why so few shot down ???
    1. +3
      April 9 2018 08: 30
      Specify pzh-hundred And how many were there?
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 10: 28
        More than 20 ...
    2. +1
      April 9 2018 08: 41
      Is there a total number? Maybe there were only nine of them?
    3. 0
      April 9 2018 10: 40
      Quote: Nikolai Kuznetsov
      What difference does it come from. The question is, why so few shot down ???

      It was announced yesterday that the S-400s in Syria were put on full alert
      Well, there the first couple sits down - the third takes off well And so on and so forth.
      What was that for?
  18. +5
    April 9 2018 08: 29
    When rockets go through the mountain passages of the Lebanese Range, you can only neutralize them from above. The Syrians do not have such funds. And then they shot down 8 pieces. Surprisingly good result in the circumstances. Israel Tomahawks - very unlikely. Not his style. Rather, he is silent, covering the striatum. But the Duma is already being "cleaned up" ... Trump again sat in a puddle!
    True, I chose the base, so as not to "get back." He didn’t shoot at Damascus ...
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 10: 41
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      When rockets go through the mountain passages of the Lebanese Range, you can only neutralize them from above. The Syrians do not have such funds. And then they shot down 8 pieces. Surprisingly good result in the circumstances. Israel Tomahawks - very unlikely. Not his style. Rather, he is silent, covering the striatum. But the Duma is already being "cleaned up" ... Trump again sat in a puddle!
      True, I chose the base, so as not to "get back." He didn’t shoot at Damascus ...

      The fact that the Syrians constantly shoot down something - we hear it every day - only with the evidence base they have something weak-- the wreckage of the shot down missiles has never been demonstrated
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 16: 07
        "the wreckage of the shot down missiles has not been demonstrated once"
        And how do you imagine the search for these debris that could fall anywhere in the desert, plus, at an incomprehensible distance and with an unknown radius of scatter, to direct the search group? ))) The Syrians are obliged to provide the generals and couch warriors with the wreckage of the downed letaks as evidence, do they need it? They shot back, completed the task, then we need to deal with more pressing problems - to clean the country from all sorts of shortcomings, and not by searching and identifying pieces of iron, which is lying around in Syria today unmeasured.
  19. +2
    April 9 2018 08: 32
    Quote: Egorovich
    then this is only Jewish work. Sly and nasty, quietly, silently, without comment - their style.

    With a high degree of probability - that for some time now is an absolute proof for our Western partners! Generally the smallest people! Alone quickly - oh not we not we !!!!! And others shoot from around the corner and giggle at the fist! I feel sorry for the people of these states! After all, there are normal ones! In essence, they are simply hostages of the extreme vile baseness of the American - Israeli establishment! They will receive after all ... Really they will! The talk time seems to have come to an end.
    1. +3
      April 9 2018 08: 41
      Everything related to politics can be called dirty, and if they just do what they consider necessary, and since they are economic and political leaders, then they will not impose sanctions on them because they are too important. How will they get? We will not start hitting Israeli air bases or American bases because we know that surrender will arrive. And they continue to bomb Syrian airbases and periodically Russian citizens
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 10: 26
        Partially answered below to you.
  20. +4
    April 9 2018 08: 38
    Well, as always, ours will be swallowed and limited to angry statements. I remember the Americans when attacking their forces not so long ago, they raised aircraft and bombed everyone
    1. +5
      April 9 2018 08: 48
      I’m embarrassed to ask, have you been running to the OZK for a long time? If everyone answered, then long ago the radioactive dust remained from the planet ...
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 09: 09
        Once I had a chance to run in the summer at 27 degrees, I ran absolutely nothing, but the feeling was like after a steam room)))
        I meant that they do dirty tricks, and our Russian Defense Ministry responds exactly as the Bible says.
    2. +2
      April 9 2018 09: 11
      This is a showdown between Jews and Iranians, they have been coming from the beginning of our operation in Syria to our bases there was no attack, why should we even respond?
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 11: 25
        Well, they bomb our ally after all.
    3. 0
      April 9 2018 11: 41
      So there are Iranian forces, please note
      1. +2
        April 9 2018 12: 56
        Those. if they will bomb the Uzbeks at the Belarusian airfield - we will not do anything?)))
  21. 0
    April 9 2018 08: 40
    Hit, don't hit, and the Duma is giving up ...
  22. +2
    April 9 2018 08: 47
    And that no one remembers the "French French"?
  23. 0
    April 9 2018 08: 51
    request Missiles themselves came from somewhere, nobody knows and has not seen. They ran away from someone and let's fall at the air base ... feel
    Maybe our lost ones get fucked up somewhere, well, so "purely by accident", like Zdrasse, can you land here? hi
  24. +6
    April 9 2018 08: 51
    In general, it’s not hard enough to notice that the United States, NATO, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the terrorists controlled by them in Syria no longer even care about any evidence, are trying to fabricate a pretext for a military attack on Syria in order to overthrow the legitimate government, which affects Armed forces of Russia and Iran. Thus, these countries covering the provocation of terrorists in the Duma actually push the world toward a world war, increasing the likelihood of scenarios where the use of nuclear weapons becomes possible. Their proxies de facto lost the Syrian war, and along with them, their masters, who had to leave behind the curtain, identify with the terrorists and threaten Assad with an invasion, lose the war. The US withdrawal from Syria will be a disaster for Saudi Arabia and Israel, as this will fix the victory for Iran and its long-term strengthening. That is why any means are used to continue to remain on the territory of Syria with the help of terrorists. From the cunning theories of controlled chaos and network revolutions, Assad's subversors eventually slipped into primitive provocations that are not accompanied by any factual justification. The proxy war was lost, so American and Israeli hawks pushed the threat of a full-fledged hot war that affects countries possessing nuclear weapons to the forefront.
  25. +1
    April 9 2018 08: 53
    Quote: Romanenko
    Rockets themselves came from somewhere

    I met a version in an English-speaking Internet, such as the Russian 8 threw rockets and 8 shot down ... In general, without accurate information, it makes no sense to disassemble, you have to wait for official statements ....
  26. +1
    April 9 2018 08: 55
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: cniza
    Too little information, and there is enough stuffing of all sorts, why are ours silent?

    Our General Staff apparently takes an example from Putin - they are holding a theatrical pause.

    Putin has not woken up yet. They do not want to wake up.
  27. +4
    April 9 2018 08: 55
    This is a complete PI .... Gentlemen, this already goes beyond the bounds of decency, and all agreements between the United States and Russia are not worth a penny. All this testing of Russians for lice will bring to a situation where the Russians and their infrastructure in Syria will be attacked, since the Americans they already felt permissiveness. You don’t need to let them do it. I’m already starting to believe the liberals who say that big business influences Putin’s policy, because if he takes the wrong step, someone will lose a lot of money. That's why we regularly hear: - it’s counterproductive, it will ruin our relationship, our partners, etc., instead of embedding it well.
    1. +5
      April 9 2018 09: 04
      Well, then they would have long gone. Won Rusal -41% for three days. And technical default in the coming weeks.

      And it is the Americans who have just begun to crush half a piece.
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 09: 39
        I wonder who buys stocks. winked
    2. +3
      April 9 2018 09: 33
      Quote: donavi49
      Well, then they would have long gone. Won Rusal -41% for three days. And technical default in the coming weeks.

      And it is the Americans who have just begun to crush half a piece.

      Only not -41% in three days, but 48% in one day. Otherwise, you are right; there have not been real sanctions yet.
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 11: 47
        Quote: professor
        You are right - there were no real sanctions yet

        What will happen? Especially active and productive trade and economic relations of the Russian Federation - the United States has not been and never is - so do not push
  28. 0
    April 9 2018 08: 59
    Whoever fucked, the striped were in the know.
  29. +4
    April 9 2018 08: 59
    Until more information appears, I would be careful not to draw conclusions. As practice has shown, knowledgeable sources can be just balabol reading news from social networks. Or generally fiction of the media, because the event happened, there is no information about it, but it is necessary to respond to it by publishing material. And it turns out that 20 missiles were fired straight from the edition of a publication, 8 of which were shot down couch troops under the cries # again we’ll fight, # putinsl. It will take a little time for the information dust to subside and it becomes clear how many missiles and who fired, how many of them were shot down. Which of these missiles went where and what was destroyed at that base destroyed. Even a recently published video cannot clarify anything, as on it is just a luminous dot in the night sky.
  30. 0
    April 9 2018 09: 04
    Axes should not seem to glow
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 09: 09
      They shone like cute 30 years ago, it’s another thing that they fly low, it’s difficult to pinpoint it, judging by the video it’s hardly axes ....
  31. 0
    April 9 2018 09: 16
    Quote: bulvas
    Only 3/4 of the population voted for the President, which means they trust him.
    laughing
  32. +8
    April 9 2018 09: 25
    It’s enough to already be in vain. I also have couch generals. What do we know about the situation there? Nothing. But how the women got crazy. Whoever needs it will be sorted out. The situation there is obviously extremely complicated. Russia is slowly but surely bringing the situation to its logical conclusion. Our guys are there, as in hell, everything is on the edge. Instead of support and empathy, we cluck each in our own way. And after that we scream that the Russians. In this case, we are smelly trepachki, not Russian.
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 09: 50
      Quote: alexnmv5
      It’s enough to already be in vain. I also have couch generals. What do we know about the situation there? Nothing. But how the women got crazy. Whoever needs it will be sorted out. The situation there is obviously extremely complicated. Russia is slowly but surely bringing the situation to its logical conclusion. Our guys are there, as in hell, everything is on the edge. Instead of support and empathy, we cluck each in our own way. And after that we scream that the Russians. In this case, we are smelly trepachki, not Russian.


      What do we know? The fact that the base was hit, the fact that the Moscow Region declared that it would destroy the objects that would strike, the fact that these were just words. So either they couldn’t technically or were scared
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 11: 06
        Do not tryndi. Take the trouble to read what the MoE has stated and don’t spread the lies here.
      2. 0
        April 9 2018 11: 52
        Read the MO statement again, it talks about Russian facilities
  33. +2
    April 9 2018 09: 26
    Keep silent again? Or is it time to start shooting down? Even in the purely economical interests in the sale of our air defense. It’s time to actually show its capabilities. Or we find out that "our" authorities are also fooling us here and we need to take measures to eliminate it. Cartoons are for Western viewers, we need real facts and deeds.
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 10: 51
      If we engage and become disgraced, sales contracts will burn.
      1. 0
        April 9 2018 16: 44
        I don’t really care. Then at least they comb their hair and understand that technicians are constructing and producing the equipment, and not the ineffective managers and not moronic lawyers. But if they fly to us and do not take it, then it will be very sad (this does not mean that I do not feel sorry for the Syrians, like all our allies and ordinary people in general). Then it will be “alles kaput” to our country and to all of us.
  34. +3
    April 9 2018 09: 44
    allowing the dictator Netanyaho to commit atrocities in Syria, we ourselves go without realizing that to the third world with huge steps; when Israel was atrocious in Lebanon, the Soviet Union waged continuous wars with Jews, thereby Jews were hard to get Pashtuns at us and recruit Pakistanis, but that’s all they managed
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 16: 47
      The Kremlin’s guys from the Dead Sea will encircle “our” “hitrovans” of the Kremlin. It is a pity that the people lacked the mind and will to send them to rest.
  35. 0
    April 9 2018 10: 03
    I wonder if there will be a statement from the Russian Defense Ministry, or will they assure us that the earth is round?
  36. 0
    April 9 2018 10: 08
    21 century! And no one knows where the rockets came from! Well, the Syrians do not have satellites, but ours then why?!? request I repeat, a large share of the probability this was done by the Jews. angry
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 16: 50
      And they are like Trump from Sev. Korea, it was loudly stated, but with the fulfillment of the promises ... I suspect that we will check the fulfillment already when the missiles fly at us. Yes, and here I do not believe this rot above, that they will not surrender us, as they did to Hussein.
  37. +1
    April 9 2018 10: 20
    Well, the Moscow Region declared that it was the Israeli F15, but what was allowed to bomb Syria?
    1. +3
      April 9 2018 10: 38
      Jews, they are ... like they’re nowhere near business .... and they didn’t muddle the war in Syria and they didn’t, and the people started up the baida .... and the whole "Arab spring" is not their hands case-type, "the time has come" ..... yeah ....
    2. 0
      April 9 2018 10: 42
      Quote: mlad
      Well, the Moscow Region declared that it was the Israeli F15, but what was allowed to bomb Syria?

      Of course you can ban, but whether to listen ...
  38. +3
    April 9 2018 10: 28
    Maybe just start all the "strangers" to shoot on the ground? Turks, Americans, Britons, French, Israelis. All the same, no one invited them to Syria, everyone climbs with weapons, not gifts. Where they catch to interrogate and to the wall.
    They did not bring peace to Syrian land, but blood and suffering. Well, measure them with the same measure !!! am
  39. +2
    April 9 2018 10: 37
    ..... in a word. Considering all the cynicism and legal chaos in relation to Russia and its ally, it’s necessary to bring down any missiles that we can get. Not only those that go to our (and) base, but in general all that we get. Without explaining anything (no one needs it anymore) ... to blame and as much as possible .. Yes, let them be indignant before the dope .., We don’t know anything from where, how, and who gave the command ... Alien can. Look, or ask the British. They already know everything ....
    1. 0
      April 9 2018 11: 08
      . tumble and as much as possible ..

      Well, that failed. Of 8 pieces, 5 were shot down, 3 fell off to the side. What is bad?
  40. +1
    April 9 2018 10: 48
    Do not interfere with the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia preparing for tank biathlon and airborne bomb ..
    Frogs or shavers probably worked ..., FSA aside.
  41. +1
    April 9 2018 13: 30
    Well, it’s understandable that the slaves of the Americans organize provocations on their instructions, they themselves are afraid to do this, expecting a retaliatory strike from Russia against their carriers. The tactics used on our outskirts are repeated, where ukro-Bandera slaves do the same.
  42. 0
    April 9 2018 13: 55
    Quote: Witness of visa-free travel
    Again, the GDP is screwed up. He promised to defend our allies (as I understand the authorities and the Syrian army are our allies) and again only blah blah blah, and again an expression of concern. In short, it’s not responsible for the bazaar

    What, pisyun too small, then Putin is to blame!
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  44. 0
    April 9 2018 16: 09
    Any attack on the territory of a sovereign country must have adequate consequences for the aggressor.
    And there is no difference whether this is the United States or Israel. If the latter, then the retaliatory measures should make the Israelis ponder over their actions, provoking a military clash in the region.
  45. +1
    April 9 2018 17: 53
    Israeli command does not comment on allegations against it

    Gussky would use the accusative case and say boring
    The Izgale command does not comment on the allegations of its adherent

    but we are sure to screw the eugays in the usable ... it is so enormous ... laughing
  46. 0
    April 9 2018 18: 57
    Yes, they do not care about our accusations. I got this Israel. What they want, they do. Will someone punish them or not already ?! I want them to pay a dear price, as well as the United States.
  47. 0
    April 9 2018 19: 20
    What all the brave ... Russia is opposed by strong players, and therefore you need to play carefully. American presidents have also drawn red lines many times, "well now for sure," so what ??? Nobody floods there on the forums They are doing everything right, the Jews have a war with Syria (de facto and de jure), with Iran in fact. We have graters with the States. Each opponent in the weight category;)) And the Russian bases are covered reliably, no one is going to shoot at them.
    If the MiG 31 or A50 will hang in the air, then you can cover a wide front, including low-altitude attempts to break through the air defense, but did not consciously, only the drying was monitored by the US fleet.