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All on the Maidan: we will talk about the return of the "minuses"!

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Looking for cons in the comments on BO?

Yes, we need - 2333 (77.84%)
77.84%
No, not needed - 315 (10.51%)
10.51%
I don't care - 349 (11.64%)
11.64%
So, Tillerson was removed, with which I congratulate everyone. Our little take. What, where, and most importantly - why does she take all this, let's talk a little later.



That is why, and not at all on the eve of the upcoming elections in our country, we decided, publicly, as it should be, on a virtual Maidan, to discuss such a pressing issue as RETURN OF MINUSES to the comments!

For those who have recently joined our community, we explain: earlier, in the good old days, readers could influence the rating of their colleagues by setting ratings of “+” or “-” to each specific comment. And so it went on for a very long time. While some of the readers did not begin to unite in organized communities, strenuously "minus" all the unwanted.

Thus, people whose point of view was different from the generally accepted one were deprived of the opportunity to express their opinions on the site altogether. So it was instituted that the “black-billed” commentators were significantly limited in their freedom of expression in the quantitative aspect.

And in the end, it all came to the conclusion that the administration decided to remove the possibility of negative ratings.

However, going to meet the continuing statements about the need for negative ratings of comments, the administration decided to conduct a study of public opinion on whether it should be done or not.

In the new projectReporter»This feature is already implemented and enabled.

True, there are no beautiful epaulets, “Reporter” is a civilian project and less official.

Speaking about the return of the "minuses" to the "Military Review", it is immediately worth warning that this will take some time. Since not only the appearance has been changed, but also the internal “filling”, it will take time to “screw” the minuses.

But, approximately in a couple of months, if the public votes "for" the return of the "minuses", the implementation of this functionality is possible.

We vote, dear, on the site is not necessary to drag!

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  1. RASKAT
    RASKAT 16 March 2018 17: 55
    +36
    Twenty cons, tribunal and execution. laughing
    1. P0LYM
      P0LYM 16 March 2018 18: 05
      +69
      100 pluses one warning is removed (very important for me) laughing
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 16 March 2018 18: 29
        +107
        Warnings could be “amnestied”, at least once a year, as a disciplinary punishment, not “left forever stigmatized.” Here I agree with you.
        1. Crowe
          Crowe 16 March 2018 18: 37
          +70
          Now the gangs of "positives" will conduct their policies. Who does not agree with them - in the skull.
          People come to your senses! Your right to freedom of speech will be taken away from you. Take a look at how many false generals and false marshals have become: he himself saw the generals with 400 comments. They pissed me too, so that I would not rock the boat. They will minus you. Their -80 and -100 against the colonel's -25 - do not pull. Many will leave the site. Come to your senses!
          1. Logall
            Logall 16 March 2018 18: 52
            +89
            Comrades, I think it is right to suggest:
            If cons are introduced, then do not minus for an excellent opinion. Put a minus for outright trolling and rudeness. For this you can chip in the crowd. And if you minus all those who disagree, then we lose the interlocutors.
            1. Crowe
              Crowe 16 March 2018 18: 57
              +22
              And here is one of them. Take a look at his rating and the number of comments.
              Komtov - 4 177, and a rating of two million.
              1. vovanpain
                vovanpain 16 March 2018 19: 05
                +40
                Quote: Crowe
                And here is one of them. Take a look at his rating and the number of comments.
                Komtov - 4 177, and a rating of two million.

                Are you jealous? I have 7496 comments, this is 7497 comments and a rating of 2 million, do you allow me to be in the marshals? laughing laughing Write your own comments and other forum users will appreciate you and the rating will rise and rank, look after yourself a colleague. And in other people's pockets you have nothing to do. hi hi
                1. Logall
                  Logall 16 March 2018 19: 15
                  +9
                  Hi, bro. Health to you! I didn’t want to write before the elections, but there’s such a topic ... And Banshee is happy with answers, which is not often. So he broke ...
                  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
                    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 16 March 2018 19: 26
                    +28
                    It is necessary to see how many pros and cons have been set. In two columns. Then it will be objective. And the comment that received the most pluses automatically became the first.
                    1. Monos
                      Monos 16 March 2018 19: 30
                      +25
                      It will be amusing to see how some of the “majors” and “colonels,” who themselves scored ratings, having several accounts, will fly away to the “minus”. laughing
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 17 March 2018 23: 40
                        +7
                        Quote: Monos
                        It will be amusing to see how some of the “majors” and “colonels,” who themselves scored ratings, having several accounts, will fly away to the “minus”.

                        ... Everyone Who Passed The School - Minus ... The Oldest on the Resource ... They then knew how and could ... wink ...
                    2. seos
                      seos 16 March 2018 20: 33
                      +53
                      And what is objectivity? I was often given a minus for the truth based on facts ... if this truth was at variance with the opinion of the patriots cheers ...
                      Without cons, it’s more objective.
                      1. freddyk
                        freddyk 16 March 2018 22: 44
                        +31
                        Quote: seos
                        And what is objectivity? I was often given a minus for the truth based on facts ... if this truth was at variance with the opinion of the patriots cheers ...
                        No minuses come out more objectively

                        How objective, if we only see how many people agree with you. And how many dissenters are not visible. So what, that they will zaminusut you, the truth from this will not cease to be true. But we will see how much patriot cheers are here.) And, in general, in the end, not because of the ratings, we speak here.
                      2. jktu66
                        jktu66 17 March 2018 01: 17
                        +23
                        The site became kutsy without a minus, and comments ceased to be made since a couple of years, there is no past tension of emotions smile
                      3. Kostyar
                        Kostyar 17 March 2018 05: 33
                        +14
                        And what is objectivity? I was often given a minus for the truth based on facts ... if this truth was at variance with the opinion of the patriots cheers ...
                        No minuses come out more objectively


                        Everyone was minuscated, someone more often than someone less, but it was interesting ...
                        Cons should be!
                        Definitely !!!
                      4. Pingo
                        Pingo 17 March 2018 05: 59
                        +5
                        Quote: seos
                        if this truth was at variance with the opinion of the cheers of the patriots ...

                        patriots of which country? or what social order?
                        Russians usually do not create different diasporas, including on the Internet.
                      5. PFT
                        PFT 17 March 2018 06: 29
                        +14
                        Not patriots, but frank Russophobes and moderators from Israel, such as "And Us Rat", "Professor" - cons and ban.
                    3. Simple
                      Simple 17 March 2018 21: 01
                      +2
                      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
                      And the comment that received the most pluses automatically became the first.


                      No, not objective.
                    4. serriy
                      serriy 20 March 2018 09: 02
                      +2
                      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
                      It is necessary to see how many pros and cons have been set. In two columns. Then it will be objective

                      Objectively WILL NOT!
                      Now for the "wrong" opinion (comment) they simply do not put a plus, they respond to it with comments, there is a dialogue. It can be seen what an opponent is.

                      They will introduce a minus - just for the "wrong" opinion they will ban.

                      Already there is a cheers-patriotic Politicus, everything is simple there - I don’t like the opinion, “minus”, the comment is deleted. Vilely.

                      Do not like it - answer. If you have something to answer. Can not answer - go by. And introduce a "minus" will be stupidly minus.
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 20 March 2018 13: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: serriy
                        Do not like it - answer. If you have something to answer. Can not answer - go by. And introduce a "minus" will be stupidly minus.

                        I agree - that’s exactly what will happen, especially when the opponent cannot reconcile himself to being publicly ridiculed for illiteracy and aplomb.
                  2. vovanpain
                    vovanpain 16 March 2018 19: 26
                    +10
                    Quote: Logall
                    but there’s such a topic ...

                    Hello Be Bratko! Yes, the topic is interesting, I also rarely visit now, but there is something to think about. And what
                    Quote: Logall
                    do not minus for excellent opinion

                    Sanya, this is simply stupid, at one time I myself suffered from my own lack of restraint and taught glory to God.
                    Quote: helmi8
                    When you hover over a quantity, a list of those who put these pluses and minuses appears.

                    Sanya before, and there was such a system here, you hover over a number and a window pops out with those who voted against or for and justified their pros and cons, I registered already later on this system, below is my comment on this topic. drinks
                    1. gm9019
                      gm9019 17 March 2018 14: 41
                      +3
                      Agree with you. Here, for example, that pops up when you click on the nickname of any participant in the discussion. This is from our private professional forum.
                      "The whole picture is on the face!" )))

                2. Warrior-80
                  Warrior-80 16 March 2018 19: 25
                  +74
                  I’ll give an example of such conversations about “Sasha hello how fools are, how are you” and so on the floor of the informative branch zero, the branch was dirtied, the pluses were instructed to each other and go to marshals
                  1. lis-ik
                    lis-ik 16 March 2018 19: 57
                    +33
                    Quote: Warrior-80
                    I’ll give an example of such conversations about “Sasha hello how fools are, how are you” and so on the floor of the informative branch zero, the branch was dirtied, the pluses were instructed to each other and go to marshals

                    Yes, the way it was before, although on the other hand the frank slogans were not tired of a great mind either. I would also return a blacklist, so as not to read outright stupidity and almost personal correspondence.
                    1. Warrior-80
                      Warrior-80 16 March 2018 20: 16
                      +14
                      I don’t agree there is such a character as Mikhan, he is already like a mascot of Sait, it’s even fun to read it, he’s chopping everyone with a saber, without him it’s somehow not right
                      1. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 16 March 2018 20: 22
                        +11
                        Quote: Warrior-80
                        I don’t agree there is such a character as Mikhan, he is already like a mascot of Sait, it’s even fun to read it, he’s chopping everyone with a saber, without him it’s somehow not right

                        An exception can be made for Mikhan, but he changes his nicknames, he would at least put the numbers after Mikhan 1 2 3 .................
                      2. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 16 March 2018 20: 36
                        +11
                        At the request of the participant himself, earlier it was possible to make it so that characters that did not like could be added to a personal black list. Ask the Professor.
                      3. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 16 March 2018 22: 15
                        +14
                        As Baskov said for Pugachev - do not touch the sacred. Leave Vitaly alone, you can forgive him even for loyalty to the site. Like a bearded man - understand and forgive! laughing
                    2. helmi8
                      helmi8 16 March 2018 23: 13
                      +13
                      Quote: lis-ik
                      Quote: Warrior-80
                      I’ll give an example of such conversations about “Sasha hello how fools are, how are you” and so on the floor of the informative branch zero, the branch was dirtied, the pluses were instructed to each other and go to marshals
                      Yes, the way it was before, although on the other hand the frank slogans were not tired of a great mind either. I would also return a blacklist, so as not to read outright stupidity and almost personal correspondence.

                      I will support. For greetings and personal conversations, there is a chat, forum, PM ... And in the discussions there should be comments on the topic.
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 17 March 2018 16: 47
                        +1
                        Namesake hi So before answering, I want to greet the interlocutor humanly. This is contrary to the rules of the site and universal norms of behavior. Even if I (after accepting the minuses) disagree with, say, your opinion - I am obliged to explain this, that is, to substantiate my opinion and minus. But at the same time, we will remain good friends and interlocutors.
              2. Warrior-80
                Warrior-80 16 March 2018 19: 14
                +52
                In some ways, you are right, crony’s beads are planted on the site and they are adding each other, why do I need to know their plans for the evening and other details, I suggest that they punish me hard
                1. Andrey K
                  Andrey K 16 March 2018 19: 40
                  +50
                  Quote: Warrior-80
                  ... In something you are right, bred on the site crony bides and plus each other, why should I know their plans for the evening and other details, I propose for this hard punish...

                  I fully agree with you.
                  I’ll add from myself - send to the BAN forever, for mocking the state language of our country.
                  Did not try to write correctly, for starters?
                  1. Warrior-80
                    Warrior-80 16 March 2018 19: 52
                    +5
                    You understand me, thank you, and poking into other people's mistakes is a sign of bad taste
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 16 March 2018 19: 55
                      +38
                      Quote: Warrior-80
                      ... You understand me, thank you, and poking into other people's mistakes is a sign of bad taste ...

                      A sign of a bad tone is to distort the language you are speaking.
                      Not to correct the comrade in time, is also a sign of a bad tone, and it’s not far from trouble.
                      See - write cleanly and correctly wink
                      1. Warrior-80
                        Warrior-80 16 March 2018 20: 10
                        +4
                        Well accepted, yes there is a sin I write with errors, well, do not take it in Russian from the inhabitants of the site winked
                      2. Vard
                        Vard 18 March 2018 07: 47
                        +2
                        Not everyone has a licensed Word ... Some write from the phone .. With that, how?
                      3. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 18 March 2018 13: 19
                        0
                        Quote: Andrey K
                        A sign of a bad tone is to distort the language you are speaking.

                        Have you tried leaving a comment on your smartphone? wink
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                    3. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 16 March 2018 21: 12
                      +22
                      Quote: Warrior-80
                      ... It is well accepted, yes there is a sin I write with errors, well, do not take it in Russian from the inhabitants of the site ..

                      It’s never too late to learn and improve. You live here exactly the sameеe (spelled with the letter е), As the others.
                      The site, for the most part, is people who have learned in the USSR. Then the exam was not laughing
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                      2. Warrior-80
                        Warrior-80 16 March 2018 22: 41
                        +11
                        I noticed one feature on the site if the opponent is not right or doubts the strength of his arguments. He begins to kick other people's mistakes. Mistakes are so important to you? In my opinion, the content is more important than errors in the text.
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                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 16 March 2018 22: 45
                        +2
                        Andrei, you are my friend, but truth is more precious. From Yegor "Jack Vosmerkin" - like a ballerina from me. He himself would be happy to change the flag to domestic, so he does not know how to do it. Sometimes it doesn’t work on other people's servers. I drew instructions for him below - maybe it will work out. hi drinks
                  3. Simple
                    Simple 17 March 2018 21: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey K
                    I’ll add from myself - send to the BAN forever, for mocking the state language of our country.
                    Did not try to write correctly, for starters?


                    What does he have to do with it?
                    These are all overseas smartphones.
                    Well, in foreign languages ​​there isn’t a normal reference for writing syntax for
                    Russian language.
                  4. Amurets
                    Amurets 19 March 2018 01: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Andrey K
                    Did not try to write correctly, for starters?

                    The author is not always to blame, a lot of errors and omissions happen either from software imperfections or software and hardware failures. I also can’t always keep track of my mistakes, it seems like I typed everything correctly when you read a comment published, look, there are one or two errors.
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 19 March 2018 08: 52
                      +6
                      Quote: Amurets
                      ... The author is not always to blame, a lot of errors and omissions happen either from software imperfections or software and hardware failures ...

                      Nikolay, good morning hi
                      I also don’t have a secretary here, however, before clicking on the add button, if I doubt a phrase, I re-read, correct, put punctuation marks. In the end, after publication, about two to three minutes there is the possibility of editing the text. Links to software and T9 in the phone are not always appropriate, often it’s just inattention or deliberate distortion of words, with claims to the “original” trolling.
                      In essence, I agree - no one is safe from mistakes.
                      This thing is fixable yes
                      1. Amurets
                        Amurets 19 March 2018 09: 19
                        +1
                        Greetings, Andrey, our day will end soon. I basically agree, but the fact is that when writing and sending letters from a laptop, when sending, letters in words sometimes disappear. They say in the fox, it happens.
                      2. Andrey K
                        Andrey K 19 March 2018 09: 35
                        +6
                        Quote: Amurets
                        ... Greetings, Andrey, our day will soon end. I basically agree, but the fact is that when writing and sending letters from a laptop, when sending, letters in words sometimes disappear. They say in the fox, this happens ...

                        And I recently woke up, I drink coffee laughing
                        Anything happens, it happens and the technique is "buggy" request
                2. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 16 March 2018 20: 42
                  +15
                  Quote: Warrior-80
                  In some ways, you are right, crony’s beads are planted on the site and they are adding each other, why do I need to know their plans for the evening and other details, I suggest that they punish me hard

                  this is called a flood, click the Complaint button, such comments will be deleted, according to the rules of the site.
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              3. Evil543
                Evil543 16 March 2018 19: 18
                +4
                Quote: Crowe
                And here is one of them. Take a look at his rating and the number of comments.
                Komtov - 4 177, and a rating of two million.

                To this they answered that the kumas helped.
                1. Anarchist
                  Anarchist 16 March 2018 19: 54
                  +7
                  I put it a little differently, and threw the pluses to you, assigned the colonel. What's wrong?
                  1. Evil543
                    Evil543 16 March 2018 21: 46
                    +5
                    Quote: Anarchist
                    I put it a little differently, and threw the pluses to you, assigned the colonel. What's wrong?

                    Did I ask?
                    1. Anarchist
                      Anarchist 16 March 2018 23: 26
                      +7
                      Good people, good to do, no need to ask! We are all ourselves, without supplication and reminders ...
              4. Andrey K
                Andrey K 16 March 2018 19: 36
                +16
                Quote: Crowe
                ... And here is one of them. Take a look at his rating and the number of comments.
                Kom-tov - 4 177, and the rating for two million ...

                Aren't you tired of rummaging through other people's pockets?
                What do you poke a finger if you yourself reincarnated?
                Try not to shine your skeletons in the closet.
                1. Crowe
                  Crowe 16 March 2018 20: 40
                  +8
                  Now I’m sure that the gang of “pluses”. They intercede for each other. Since yesterday, my rating has been raised by a hundred thousand. Now imagine that they will begin to minus. Have to unite. The clan war will begin, instead of talking.
                  1. Lycan
                    Lycan 17 March 2018 00: 44
                    +5
                    Quote: Crowe
                    Have to unite. The clan war will begin, instead of talking.

                    This is how to drink to give. Alas, clan unification is a proven behavior for hundreds of thousands of years, and it cannot be overcome, just trying to force yourself. It is very likely that if it used to be so, it means that when past conditions are returned, everything will be reborn again. In a natural way.
              5. Svarog51
                Svarog51 16 March 2018 19: 46
                +11
                Howe, Black Feather. I have even fewer comments, but I am also the LEADER. Can you share who you were in a previous life? I'd like to read your own dossier. Do not be shy if you are a worthy warrior - no one will offend you. If this is not so, then do not be offended by the Sleeping Bear.
                Z.Y. I added feathers to your warbonnets.
                1. Crowe
                  Crowe 16 March 2018 20: 06
                  +12
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Howe

                  Tu-ru-ru, my pale-faced foe.
                  The meaning of the pros is to see how many people have the same opinion. Who agrees. And you spoil all statistics. Because of these, many fled. Jews in general, recently, it was no longer visible, they threw hats.
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 20: 09
                    +13
                    Quote: Crowe
                    You spoil all statistics. Because of these, many fled. Jews in general, recently, it has not become visible, they threw hats

                    Ksenia? Sobchak? belay
                    Well, sorry, honey, I didn’t recognize ....
                    You are somehow old, the protector of all the poor and oppressed ....
                    laughing
                    1. Crowe
                      Crowe 16 March 2018 20: 43
                      +4
                      They also decided to call names! Cons thrown. Now with caps, and tomorrow with minuses.
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 20: 48
                        +6
                        Quote: Crowe
                        They also decided to call names!

                        Admin did not try to complain?
                        crying
                    2. Crowe
                      Crowe 16 March 2018 21: 18
                      +2
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Admin did not try to complain?

                      Already. And not only for you. Wait.
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 21: 23
                        +5
                        Quote: Crowe
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Admin did not try to complain?
                        Already. And not only for you. Wait.

                        They are waiting for the promised 3 of the year .... Right now I'm sobbing .....
                        yes
                    3. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 16 March 2018 22: 22
                      +2
                      Innocent Smoktunovsky! Kesha!
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 17 March 2018 17: 34
                        +1
                        Lesha, greetings, old man hi Trump was forgiven me, and Clintonsha managed a “yellow card”. You see how it turns out - the “gray cardinals” are more expensive.
                  2. SOF
                    SOF 16 March 2018 20: 39
                    +7
                    Quote: Crowe
                    Jews in general, recently, it has not become visible, they threw hats

                    + + +
                    ... for comrades from the promised land, with the reincarnation of the minuses, it is necessary to make decimation - at least 10 divided by one, clickable, minus .... otherwise they, all without exception, will become pirates, and without them there will be no last loved one Secretary General of the CPSU and the first president of the USSR, pluralism ...
                    1. Varna
                      Varna 17 March 2018 08: 34
                      +3
                      Quote: SOF
                      Quote: Crowe
                      Jews in general, recently, it has not become visible, they threw hats

                      + + +
                      ... for comrades from the promised land, with the reincarnation of the minuses, it is necessary to make decimation - at least 10 divided by one, clickable, minus .... otherwise they, all without exception, will become pirates, and without them there will be no last loved one Secretary General of the CPSU and the first president of the USSR, pluralism ...

                      Do not worry about them, they will not be offended here, do not be so kind as to worry laughing
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                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 21: 01
                      +10
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      Do not la la, I personally appropriated the General to the Professor

                      Sergey,
                      and Trump in the US as president - is that you too?
                      belay
                      1. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 16 March 2018 22: 23
                        +1
                        Well, just old Hilary removed from the track on time.
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                3. ZVO
                  ZVO 16 March 2018 21: 33
                  +8
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Howe, Black Feather. I have even fewer comments, but I am also the LEADER. Can you share who you were in a previous life? I'd like to read your own dossier. Do not be shy if you are a worthy warrior - no one will offend you. If this is not so, then do not be offended by the Sleeping Bear.
                  Z.Y. I added feathers to your warbonnets.


                  Can I tell you?
                  You are a great moderator!
                  Edit the ban so to speak left and right.
                  Like in that fairy tale - how I wake up in the morning. so I’ll start to edit ...
                  Moreover, without much analysis - insults by nationalists, idiots - in liberalism, Westernism - are not moderated in any way ... The answer is the same - for some reason they are punished with bans.

                  Do you understand. moderators. which snake are you warming up on the site?
                  After all, the site lives really due to a thin layer of technically developed authors and their readers?
                  And if this layer goes away. then all the articles are third-party (i.e. stupid and news) - will lead you to complete degradation?
                  You cannot save Bongo - if he does not see our feedback ...
                  And the responses of a thousand idiots - he does not see - they pass by his articles ...

                  Maybe for an unreasonable "Dodge" - it’s worth banning, as for a flood?
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 16 March 2018 23: 02
                    +7
                    Alex, why did you get the idea that I am a moderator? I have written in my profile - member. If I’m guilty of anything in front of the site, I will scoop up the full program. Already had the pleasure and not buzz that I am white and fluffy. I’ll tell you a secret - not all marshals are moderators, and not all moderators are marshals. Something like that. hi
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                  1. Russia
                    Russia 16 March 2018 21: 43
                    +10
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi
                    don't want to deal with offenders

                    For rewards and buns? What is it like? belay

                    He just wrote that the titles are given at some accelerated pace, so I wondered if his principles were not at odds with our harsh reality. Yesterday, he missed dozens until the next, and today he was pleasantly surprised and I was so embarrassed that I would give him a flower if possible. smile hi
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                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 17 March 2018 17: 38
                      0
                      and I was so feeling that if possible I would give him a flower

                      And do not even think - he will bite you. wink Not all the oncoming dogs are rabid, but if one comes across - stay away. Such a meeting is fraught with consequences.
              7. Vladimirsky
                Vladimirsky 17 March 2018 08: 44
                +5
                Quote: Crowe
                Take a look at his rating and the number of comments.

                You do not need to be a super-analyst to see that VO with a system of pluses and stars has turned into an interest club. Several "Marshall" nicknames like each other and gain a rating. look at how many empty formal comments they have with many advantages. If we have a plus - minus system, then the assessment of one vote should strictly be 1 point. regardless of "marshaldom"
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 17 March 2018 20: 52
                  +1
                  Alexander hi Here explain to me as a marshal, why do I need pluses? Further emptiness, no career growth. Show me the way forward, what is the purpose of having? Marshal - this is not a goal, but a burden. Do you want to do good, but you are already on the black list of corrupt officials and nobody believes you. I’m rowing such grandmothers for distributing titles, I don’t really know where to put them. I can share it. So even "paper" epaulets are envy, but what can we say about the real ones? Here's what to do next, if I don’t know how to shit and don’t want, and the world does not accept it?
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            2. Roman Skomorokhov
              16 March 2018 19: 00
              +3
              Quote: Logall
              If you minus all those who disagree, then we lose the interlocutors.


              Do not lose. It is provided for.
              1. Logall
                Logall 16 March 2018 19: 04
                +8
                Quote: Banshee
                as provided.

                Can you give more details? Interested in how this will work.
              2. Svarog51
                Svarog51 16 March 2018 20: 10
                +11
                Roman, I welcome you hi
                It is as if provided.

                So "would" or "provided"? The problem with the law is that it ignores a specific case. I hope you remember the parable about the frozen sparrow? Let me remind you.
                Sparrow flew in a fierce winter and weakened from the cold. Fell and freezes.
                A cow passed by and was casually relieved.
                Sparrow in shit warmed up and began to cry out.
                A cat ran past, heard a tweet. She pulled out a sparrow, rubbed it on the snow so that it would not stink and ... ate it.
                Conclusions:
                1. Not the enemy - who cheated
                2. Not that friend - who pulled out of shit
                3. Got into shit - don't tweet. It is fraught with consequences and very deplorable.
                1. novel66
                  novel66 16 March 2018 20: 28
                  +3
                  digging deep, buddy!
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 16 March 2018 21: 07
                    +6
                    It's not me. This is a national treasure. repeat
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 16 March 2018 20: 56
                  +16
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Sparrow in shit warmed up and began to cry out.


                  What do you mean?
                  Sparrows do not need to touch ... am laughing laughing
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 16 March 2018 21: 51
                    +6
                    the sparrow began to cry out on a high roof - it's not me, it's poetry, my daughter taught lol
                  2. Evil543
                    Evil543 16 March 2018 21: 54
                    +2
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    Sparrow in shit warmed up and began to cry out.


                    What do you mean?
                    Sparrows do not need to touch ... am laughing laughing

                    Shovel them, a shovel so that proud birds are not offended .. Villains
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              3. Reserve officer
                Reserve officer 16 March 2018 21: 17
                +35
                I also want to express my opinion on this matter.
                My work is now closely connected with the rehabilitation centers for war veterans and the armed forces, as well as with boarding houses for labor veterans. One of the main problems there is the closure of people in themselves. Something needs to be stirred up, brought back to life.
                In 2014, I invited the leadership of one of these institutions to register the most severe patients on the VO website and explain the rules of communication. The result, as they say, exceeded expectations. Seven veterans took one nickname, wrote comments together only after a collegiate discussion, one of them was constantly on duty at the laptop, waiting for answers and reporting about them to the others. People came to life. The site combined them. How they rejoiced in epaulets and ranks. I remember with what joy they told me that they had already been awarded the rank of major. This respect shown to them by members of the forum was highly appreciated. And many forum users themselves were very respected. And called in their own way. Andrei Yurievich became a “boxer” in them, Alabay - a “grandfather”, and Diana was called nothing more than “our Dianushka”.
                But when the cons were canceled, then the interest in communicating on the site faded. As they explained to me, there was no justice on the site. If before any comment received 10 pluses and 50 minuses - and in the end it would have a rating of “- 40”, then after the innovations it became “+ 10”. Those. in the end - it’s not written disgusting, but a completely respected opinion. Black turned white.
                They did not want to perceive such distortions. Just stopped writing comments. But they did not stop hoping for the restoration of justice. And a return to honest comment ratings would be a real gift for them. And not only for them.
                1. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 16 March 2018 21: 39
                  +9
                  Quote: Reserve officer
                  And many forum users themselves were very respected. And called in their own way. Andrei Yurievich became a “boxer” with them, Alabay - a “grandfather”, and Diana was called nothing less than “our Dianushka”

                  Alexey hi , so only Andrey Yuryevich remained on the site, request Alabai, since the cons were canceled, it disappeared, and our Diana was sealed with complaints. yes hi
                  1. Reserve officer
                    Reserve officer 16 March 2018 22: 04
                    +13
                    Vladimir, welcome! In fact, many worthy people left the site. What can not but sadness. The site only lost from this.
                    1. vovanpain
                      vovanpain 16 March 2018 22: 26
                      +11
                      Quote: Reserve officer
                      In fact, many worthy people left the site. What can not but sadness. The site only lost from this.

                      Aleksey, this is what saddens me most of all, I have been reading the site since 2012, I’ve registered since 15, and now request I am not a supporter of the minuses, but there have been so many frank boorish people, I’m ready to kill each other, I voted for the minuses, I always respected someone else’s opinion if it is not Russophobic or boorish, but now it is on every branch unfortunately. hi Regards, Alexey! hi
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 16 March 2018 22: 28
                  +5
                  You honor and respect for your wit. Honestly, I wouldn’t have done that before. Interesting idea.
                3. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 17 March 2018 11: 40
                  +4
                  Quote: Reserve officer
                  And a return to honest comment ratings would be a real gift for them.

                  WHAT FOR generally - request grades? Are they interesting, and not the opinion of the interlocutor and the opportunity to chat with him?
                  I personally agree to be eternal SERIES IN.
                  I am interested in COMMUNICATION, not the pros and cons and titles.
                  The true pros and cons are clearly visible in the REVIEWS to my comments. And they are much more important and more weighty faceless UNARGUAGED click
              4. revnagan
                revnagan 17 March 2018 21: 09
                0
                Hello Roman! You haven’t seen you in a long time. Tell me, is this your idea of ​​returning the minuses? An excellent thought, I tell you, an idea. By the way, you once promised an article on the historical role of Jews in Russia. Will it be ali? revnagan.
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              2. Svarog51
                Svarog51 16 March 2018 20: 17
                +2
                Alexander hi But what about the statement "That soldier who does not dream of becoming a marshal" is bad? The army holds on to this. And every soldier in a satchel should have a marshal's baton. Not I said that, but I agree with that. On the "citizen" the same thing, only a veiled sloness. Life is a harsh thing.
                1. novel66
                  novel66 16 March 2018 20: 30
                  +12
                  wand? fuck he soldier? stew and crackers and spare footcloths, but if you live, thank God!
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 16 March 2018 21: 13
                    +2
                    Swim finely! Well, get ready quickly! The next stop is Marshal. Wipe the rod from dust. wink
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 16 March 2018 21: 52
                      +6
                      it's not dust, I disturbed them with porridge
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 16 March 2018 23: 33
                        +3
                        The wand must be clean. Lick or wipe a footcloth.
                2. Crowe
                  Crowe 16 March 2018 20: 51
                  +10
                  Svarog, the epaulettes are paper, but the views are real. They are important, but you spoil everything. Chasing virtual glory. Shame!
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                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 16 March 2018 23: 44
                    +1
                    Dmitry, welcome hi I came to the site when the cons were canceled. And it seems that he has not yet expressed his opinion on their return. As you can see, they accuse me of putting advantages. Now I scratch turnip - where to go?
                    Z.Y. Did the "Pete Mitchell" tramp mention you when you told me about a meeting of a colleague?
                    1. NN52
                      NN52 16 March 2018 23: 58
                      +9
                      Svarog51
                      I came to the site that year, although I read it from the age of 14 ...
                      The tramp probably mentioned me ... He is skiing now ...
                      I didn’t find the cons either ..
                      1. NN52
                        NN52 17 March 2018 00: 06
                        +11
                        And my opinion is that the site should be left unchanged ....

                        Otherwise it will be like news from RBC ....
                      2. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 17 March 2018 00: 44
                        +4
                        Dmitry, in the 13th year, in addition to VO, I also visited Pikaba. There are also pros and cons. So there informative articles very often drowned in the minuses, just like that out of pure mischief. This was especially noticeable during the holidays. That's why I went from there to a more serious site - here to VO. My opinion - you can do a good thing - do it, do not want to - go by. Here is Sanya vorobey - a worthy person and a fair moderator. But crows tend to crap even on the fly, if there is transport, then you know what I'm talking about. But Picabu also has a positive point - there, in the profile of each, the number of affixed ratings is reflected. If the minuses are returned to VO, let them include such a function. It will be immediately apparent who breathes with what.
                        Z.Y. Hobo at a meeting from me greetings. soldier
            4. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 16 March 2018 19: 49
              +9
              I propose to oblige the minus signer to necessarily attach to his minus a few words justifying this minus and until an explanation is made not to be allowed to the site. hi
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 16 March 2018 20: 15
                +5
                Quote: sharp-lad
                I propose to oblige the minus signer to necessarily attach to his minus a few words justifying this minus and until an explanation is made not to be allowed to the site. hi

                Sometimes similar explanations occurred in the context. And sometimes, if 10 minuses ---- all 10 should explain? Litter the site? If anyone is not clear, he may ask.
                1. gm9019
                  gm9019 17 March 2018 15: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  if 10 minuses ---- should explain all 10?

                  they also need to be checked, but this is an overwhelming work, by the way.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 18 March 2018 06: 59
                    0
                    Quote: gm9019
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    if 10 minuses ---- should explain all 10?

                    they also need to be checked, but this is an overwhelming work, by the way.

                    A very correct remark. !!!! For example, someone put a minus and wrote "" Because you are a victim of the exam. " And 10 people took and repeated so as not to bother! GY-GY !!!!! That's the opponent will be glad when he reads! At one time there was such a person! How is he being minus ---- he scolds, insults those who are minuscule, does not understand FOR SCHOOO ?? Despite clear explanations. You read ---- game, as if it were a madhouse to visit !!!
                    I liked the REPORTER, but ...... everywhere I don’t have time. Although in TECHNO ---- I will go often. Without registration so far.
                    1. Conserp
                      Conserp 18 March 2018 10: 12
                      +2
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Because you are a victim of the exam

                      You definitely deserve such cons.
                    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 March 2018 11: 57
                      +2
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      so as not to bother! GY-GY !!!!!

                      and this is a good indicator that minuscule not for koment but because "GY-GY !!!!"
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 18 March 2018 20: 14
                        0
                        Hello, Vladimir Ivanovich!
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

                        and this is a good indicator that minuscule not for koment but because "GY-GY !!!!"
                        I think “GY-GY” ----- not the worst thing you can hear here? You are before me on the site. Perhaps you will recall the one who scolded and was rude, if he got cons. And perhaps he wrote the previous comment? Probably, after that long-standing ban it is not the first time that it registers under new names? Seem to be....
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 18 March 2018 07: 03
                +6
                Quote: sharp-lad
                I propose to oblige the minus signer to necessarily attach to his minus a few words justifying this minus

                Well, then, for symmetry - let's introduce the same rule for the pluses wassat
                And all will be happy ... probably recourse
            5. Mikhail m
              Mikhail m 16 March 2018 20: 48
              +6
              Quote: Logall
              And if you minus all those who disagree, then we lose the interlocutors.

              Do you need these interlocutors? Without most of them, you can safely do without. Especially without those who write comments "hello Vasya." I am pleased to zaminusu for contempt of the audience.
            6. Incvizitor
              Incvizitor 16 March 2018 20: 53
              +5
              Previously, they didn’t seem to minus the sane people who normally defended their point of view and now they won’t do it, only rotten trolls, because if you minus the other point of view, the site will turn into a “censor”.
              And at the expense of ranks do they need at all? Add minuses and pluses, you don’t need more anyway most of the “generals” here are clearly not “authorities” laughing

              PS I’ve never sculpted pros or cons, if I need to write directly, I just think there are people who don’t know anything by topic, they go for review and when they simply troll without minuses, these people perceive their comments as something sane and serious, but with minuses these clowns are immediately visible.
            7. dison
              dison 17 March 2018 09: 17
              +2
              Some are not sorry to lose.
            8. Orionvit
              Orionvit 17 March 2018 09: 22
              +4
              Quote: Logall
              Put a minus for outright trolling and rudeness

              Say this, for example, to comrades with the Israeli flag. Those amicably minus everything that does not fit with their policies.
              1. igor67
                igor67 17 March 2018 11: 00
                +10
                Quote: Orionvit
                Quote: Logall
                Put a minus for outright trolling and rudeness

                Say this, for example, to comrades with the Israeli flag. Those amicably minus everything that does not fit with their policies.

                what nonsense, comrades with the Israeli flags, even if they are minus, it won’t affect your rating, only marshals and generals can influence their pluses and minuses, I myself was a marshal from a gang of marshals, as Sanya Vorobei wrote, after updating the site I became a colonel , although half the marshals registered only a year ago have the same number of comments on my site since I was 12 years old and I had skulls, but then the rating was increased not by the Israelis but by the Russian forum users. It is difficult for the Israelis to substantiate their position, it starts right away -cortavous bullying, or God's chosen and much more, trolling in your way.
                1. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 17 March 2018 14: 36
                  0
                  Quote: igor67
                  corted bullying, or God's chosen and much more

                  Not I came up with this, but for some, this is a very sore subject. There are probably reasons.
                  1. igor67
                    igor67 17 March 2018 15: 10
                    +5
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    Quote: igor67
                    corted bullying, or God's chosen and much more

                    Not I came up with this, but for some, this is a very sore subject. There are probably reasons.

                    I don’t understand you, but you often read exactly that in the place of an argumented answer. The reasons for not accepting, I don’t know, I chat with many forum users off-site, we drink and play hockey on Skype with a beer, you can always find reasons for rejection, or vice versa
                    1. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 17 March 2018 22: 08
                      0
                      Quote: igor67
                      you can always find the reasons for rejection

                      When you start studying the history of world wars, revolutions, global political upheavals, for some reason you always run into the Jewish question. And someone will say that they have nothing to do with it? I have the same many acquaintances of the Jews, a drink of beer, this is normal. But it turns out that no matter what happens in the world, they are right there. Take a look at least at Ukraine, not to mention Russia. And so all over the world.
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 18 March 2018 13: 30
                        +3
                        Quote: Orionvit
                        that they have nothing to do with it?

                        Yes, and where, without them! But Igor67 is one of the most adequate VO visitors with the Israeli flag, believe me, as a person dedicated to the Jewish question! wink
            9. captain
              captain 17 March 2018 09: 42
              +4
              Quote: Logall
              Comrades, I think it is right to suggest:
              If cons are introduced, then do not minus for an excellent opinion. Put a minus for outright trolling and rudeness. For this you can chip in the crowd. And if you minus all those who disagree, then we lose the interlocutors.

              There are still sober people in VO.
            10. Olgovich
              Olgovich 17 March 2018 11: 10
              +2
              Quote: Logall
              If the cons are introduced, then do not minus behind great opinion. Put a minus for outright trolling and rudeness.

              Don't you understand that this will be only a good wish and will happen exactly the opposite?
              Many years of experience with negative attestation only confirms this.
              The absence of minuses made it possible to DIVERSIFY a palette of opinions and views and the ability to defend one’s point of view to different people and only INCREASED the audience of VO. And made it, accordingly, more interesting.

              Who cares to read only the comments, where some endlessly praise each other for a concurring opinion (violently plus)? request .Where there is no one to argue with and hone their arguments and to increase knowledge only because some have been trampled on by the crowd (have they been bombarded?) No.

              And trolling and rudeness are monitored by (and very) moderators. hi
              .
              whose point of view was different from the generally accepted one, were deprived of the opportunity to express their opinion on the site at all. So it was instituted that the “black-headed” commentators were significantly limited in their freedom of expression in the quantitative moment.
              And in the end, everything came to the conclusion that the administration accepted decision to remove the possibility of giving negative ratings.

              CORRECT was the decision yes
            11. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 18 March 2018 07: 39
              +4
              Quote: Logall
              If you introduce cons, then do not minus for an excellent opinion. Put a minus for outright trolling and rudeness. For this you can chip in the crowd. And if you minus all those who disagree, then we lose the interlocutors.


              in theory it’s correct, but in practice it will not work unfortunately.
              besides, in VO it was only possible to grab the minuses flag.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 18 March 2018 11: 18
                +3
                Maki Avellevich (Dmitriy)
                in theory it’s correct, but in practice it will not work unfortunately.
                besides, in VO it was only possible to grab the minuses flag.
                Yes! It was so! I testify.
                Previously, in general, some “fast-thinking” users, without even reading the user’s own comment, which they allegedly oppose, simply minus one thing (without any troubles with their response comments), they simply minus the flag, nickname or author that they didn’t like ( user profile picture).
                Now - without cons - this is really excluded.
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 18 March 2018 13: 34
                +2
                Quote: Maki Avellievich
                just grab the minuses flag.

                There is such a thing, but the matter is not only in the flag. Among your brother, the same lacks trolls, for which they flew away in minus. Pimply as an example. The professor also sometimes shines with "intellect". I have no complaints about you, nor about Us Rat (although he put a warning on my lawlessness). hi
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 16 March 2018 18: 56
            +11
            Quote: Crowe
            Now the gangs of "positives" will conduct their policies. Who does not agree with them - in the skull.
            People come to your senses! Your right to freedom of speech will be taken away from you. Take a look at how many false generals and false marshals have become: he himself saw the generals with 400 comments. They pissed me too, so that I would not rock the boat. They will minus you. Their -80 and -100 against the colonel's -25 - do not pull. Many will leave the site. Come to your senses!

            Do you want to express your opinion or become a VO general? Let's ask the administration and I will give you my stars ....................
          3. Roman Skomorokhov
            16 March 2018 18: 59
            +8
            Quote: Crowe
            Now the gangs of "positives" will conduct their policies. Who does not agree with them - in the skull.


            Who told you that? You have been deceived.
            1. poquello
              poquello 16 March 2018 19: 35
              +6
              Quote: Banshee
              Quote: Crowe
              Now the gangs of "positives" will conduct their policies. Who does not agree with them - in the skull.


              Who told you that? You have been deceived.

              What were the main problems there? - quiet minus, so if you screw a mandatory comment to the minus, then two problems will be removed immediately:
              1-it is clear who and justify, 2- those who justify the minus in scrap do not put.
              The negative point is that the footcloth will grow and the opinion already expressed is duplicated, but IMHO is a worthy consideration.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 18 March 2018 13: 36
                +2
                Quote: poquello
                quiet minus

                By the way, by the way, half of the rating was cut off for this business, Smirnov personally tried. But I'm not offended, there was a jamb ... repeat
            2. Svarog51
              Svarog51 16 March 2018 20: 26
              +5
              Why cheated? I do not agree - in the skull. The army does not tolerate individuality in the absolute. The army is a public organization. But for the "virus" there is an "antibiotic" in it - a special department. Or am I misunderstanding something?
            3. badens1111
              badens1111 18 March 2018 13: 46
              0
              You or us?
              Ban decent, leave extremely dishonest public, MINUS, a way to weed out the lies, this is not profitable for you.
              So you have to be more honest, and not hide for the rights of a moderator.
          4. Tatyana
            Tatyana 16 March 2018 19: 03
            +26
            And I’m already used to the polemic without cons!
            If the opinions in the comments of different users do not agree, then they exchange questions to each other, clarify the arguments, look for common ground for a common opinion.
            With a system with minuses - people will put a minus and without any opposition and their own arguments usually just rushed on. Dialogue does not work.
            Meanwhile, the exchange of opinions is necessary and very useful for the search for objective truth, which is capable of ideologically uniting the people. Adequate unity of opinion is also necessary to ensure the national security of our country.

            As for the minuses, allegedly for various kinds of violations (trolling, rudeness, obscenities, etc.), they are not so needed, because our moderators of the VO website are reliably at the service of monitoring compliance with the site’s rules.

            I am against the minuses in this case. I consider them superfluous now.
            1. Logall
              Logall 16 March 2018 19: 08
              +6
              Hello, dear Tatyana, but I did not find the minus. Immediately to the points of contact ... Well, do you remember how we had it with you? love I called you a loving witch. love love love
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 16 March 2018 19: 18
                +5
                Good evening, Alexander! [ hi
                Logall
                I love you called a witch. love love love

                Ha! I remember! It was so! laughing They called the night witch in the sense of the nickname of Soviet pilots in the Second World War. And I didn’t understand the compliment! crying
                And then you sent me gorgeous cards with flowers! And they wrote beautiful letters in PM! drinks
                I swam in them! good
                Sasha! It’s hard to forget! yes
                1. Mikado
                  Mikado 16 March 2018 23: 47
                  +5
                  I am against the minuses in this case. I consider them superfluous now.

                  golden comment. I bowlove
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 19: 24
              +8
              But not me!. I remember how because of you they put me under a hundred cons. And, excuse me, there was a lesson for me. crying
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 19: 26
                +2
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And I’m already used to the polemic without cons!

                This is me for my comment, otherwise someone will not understand ...
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 16 March 2018 19: 50
                  +9
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  But not me!. I remember how because of you they put me under a hundred cons. And, excuse me, there was a lesson for me. crying

                  Dear Vladimir! hi
                  Ha! I also remember this incident. drinks Then, for me, men immediately threw minuses to 250 for me - they almost ripped off all your shoulder straps! lol
                  Then, for another whole week, my defenders - male users - for me you were hurt by the minuses just like that - to prevent courtesy from you. Until you publicly asked me for a petition - and I forgave you. Then immediately users with jokes in the comments + 80 returned. It was fun.
                  And I thought that you had already forgotten this incident.

                  Now the moderator would have slammed you for this. And so we, you see, you from the team have not lost! yes
                2. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 16 March 2018 20: 44
                  +4
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  And I’m already used to the polemic without cons!

                  This is me for my comment, otherwise someone will not understand ...

                  And this is just a vivid example of how to clog and plus! That's just about such communication, as it was now discussed. No offense.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 20: 47
                    +3
                    Also minus. I am for the cons.
                    1. lis-ik
                      lis-ik 16 March 2018 21: 05
                      +6
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Also minus. I am for the cons.

                      And I'm for the minuses, after such a personal communication with Tatyana, I would have slapped him!
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 21: 11
                        +2
                        I agree. laughing And what is wrong?... recourse There are no cons ...
                      2. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 16 March 2018 22: 34
                        +9
                        Yes, normal communication. On the site, people communicate too, quarreled, reconciled. So that is bad? This one also goes into VO plus. Or do you want to make a purely informative resource out of it?
                      3. vovanpain
                        vovanpain 16 March 2018 23: 00
                        +4
                        Quote: lis-ik
                        And I'm for the minuses, after such a personal communication with Tatyana, I would have slapped him!

                        Sergei ! Greetings Colleague hi So many communicate in a personal or other way, but also in topics, because when we are discussing with colleagues. We also say hello, and you and I have already earned it too. laughing hi
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                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 19: 52
                  +4
                  No, I have not forgotten. Well, I was from a hangover, and in this case my tongue is grinding, it’s not clear what .. crying
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 16 March 2018 19: 55
                    +4
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    No, I have not forgotten. Well, I was from a hangover, and in this case my tongue is grinding, it’s not clear what .. crying
                    Yes, that's exactly what they understood! lol
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 16 March 2018 21: 17
                      +7
                      How touching. repeat So I would listen and listen ... good
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 21: 25
                        +6
                        Do not scoff, please.)))
                  2. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 17 March 2018 00: 51
                    +2
                    Do not scoff, please.)))

                    And in his thoughts was not. request I like it when a friendly conversation is going on, and not a dive with mutual insults.
                  3. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 17 March 2018 11: 52
                    +3
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Well, I with a hangover was, and in this case I have tongue is grinding, this is unclear..

                    In, at once there was another suggestion: until the tube blows, to the minuses, DO NOT ALLOW !! am lol :
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 17 March 2018 19: 28
                      +2
                      until it blows into the tube, to the minuses, DO NOT ALLOW !!

                      Andrei hi It’s cruel, got out of the steering wheel - waved a glass to calm the soul, went to the site, breathed and in the bathhouse. So you can’t get to the site.
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 17 March 2018 19: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Andrey This is cruel, got out of the steering wheel - waved a glass to calm the soul, went to the site, breathed and in the bathhouse. So you can’t get to the site.

                        Sergei hi access to the site equate to driving! yes
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 18 March 2018 11: 27
                      +3
                      calling the site equate to driving while driving!

                      Well, expand the penalties on the site - both on the road. Enter the appeal and the Court of Honor in the forum. But the breathalyzer for the site how to adapt - I do not know request But I know how to get around it.
            3. saigon
              saigon 16 March 2018 19: 24
              +3
              Well, how are the cons? And how then to grow in the ranks? Yes, people still haven’t changed their minds ready for everything! Cons in principle are possible, only those who put the minus should justify the assessment, not justification minus does not go.
              Now, on the unity of opinion, I think this is not possible in principle (everyone runs off his own mind), but a dialogue is needed.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 16 March 2018 20: 25
                +6
                saigon
                Cons in principle are possible, only those who put the minus should justify the assessment, not justification minus does not go.
                The fact of the matter is that a program with minuses does not imply this — it simply cannot be configured. Therefore, you can throw minuses without any explanation, and you will not know and understand why! In addition, they can dislike and out of harm minuses to you while throwing. This sometimes happened too.
                Now, on the unity of opinion, I think this is not possible in principle (everyone runs his own way in his mind)
                Practice shows that the position of people as a result of discussing certain problems still sometimes changes. The horizons are expanding - the worldview is changing.
                and dialogue is needed.
                That's right! Dialogue is a must. This is a kind of cherry on the cake.
                1. saigon
                  saigon 16 March 2018 20: 39
                  +2
                  Yes, dialogue is needed. I like to read comments a lot of new things. many knowledgeable people in different topics.
                  Well, they throw cons so what? Not much grief for me is the opinion and judgment of a person more important than consent. objection to which I am not right and minus - they gave me the picks. will be given again, passing it.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 16 March 2018 20: 46
                    +7
                    saigon
                    Well, they are throwing minuses so what?
                    You simply cannot imagine this psychologically traumatic situation for people. They can catch up with you without any explanation - and you won’t even know for what and who exactly did it! It’s like you are on a forum, but there is nothing around you — there is no personal communication with you! You are simply ignored! You will sit and puzzle - Why ?! This hit many on pride - all the more so because the stars at the same time simply hide on your shoulder straps!
                    Because of this, many simply left the VO site.
                    As a result, over time, one strong company with an identically uniform opinion was formed on the site. Which new users with a different opinion simply squeezed from the site.
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 17 March 2018 11: 54
                      +3
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      there was one strong company with an identically uniform opinion on the site. Which new users with a different opinion simply squeezed from the site.

                      Therefore, cons and are NOT needed! yes
                    2. Conserp
                      Conserp 18 March 2018 11: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      They can catch up with you without any explanation - and you won’t even know for what and who exactly did it!

                      That is why I offer minuses by category and special button "knowingly false cons."

                      If I see someone’s comment that does not contain, for example, any Russophobia, but with a dozen minuses “for Russophobia” - the complaint flies to the moderator, and the well-deserved arrives to the minusers.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 18 March 2018 12: 13
                        +1
                        Conserp
                        If I see someone’s comment that does not contain, for example, any Russophobia, but with a dozen minuses “for Russophobia” - the complaint flies to the moderator, and the well-deserved arrives to the minusers.

                        And why did you decide that the disadvantages were set, for example, for Russophobia? If there are reciprocal comments on this user's post, how can it turn out that there are no at all !!! That was so often. And no moderator will understand and will not understand, because such a phenomenon was widespread and the motives were very different, but there were many minus signers.
                    3. Conserp
                      Conserp 18 March 2018 21: 52
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      And why did you decide that the disadvantages were set, for example, for Russophobia?


                      Because these cons are in the column "for Russophobia"?

                      Do you read what they write to you before answering?
                  2. Russia
                    Russia 16 March 2018 22: 34
                    +9
                    Quote: saigon
                    Yes, dialogue is needed. I like to read comments a lot of new things. many knowledgeable people in different topics.
                    Well, they throw cons so what? Not much grief for me is the opinion and judgment of a person more important than consent. objection to which I am not right and minus - they gave me the picks. will be given again, passing it.
                    It’s nice to hear that the licks are not an end in itself for you, so the next rank will only benefit you.
            4. albert
              albert 16 March 2018 19: 54
              +4
              Quote: Tatiana
              I am against the minuses in this case. I consider them superfluous now.

              Maybe you're right, but the pros and cons of the articles should be returned.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 16 March 2018 20: 12
                +5
                albert
                Quote: Tatiana
                I am against the minuses in this case. I consider them superfluous now.
                Maybe you're right, but the pros and cons of the articles should be returned.

                As for the pros and cons to the articles, all the time, misunderstandings turned out before. Namely.
                People did not evaluate the article, but their attitude to the event that she described.
                For example, someone died from ours. The article was set as a minus, as their attitude to the incident. And what does the author have to do with it? Not at all! They put a plus for the good news! Also, the author has nothing to do with it. Meanwhile, authors for articles also gain points, as well as users.
                Therefore, after many clarifications, we came to the conclusion that the article under the text is evaluated on the principle of "important." This allowed the site administration to conduct marketing to improve the choice of site topics - to determine what is important for readers and what is not. This is an extremely important moment in promoting the popularity of the site in the media!
                And to evaluate the quality of the article itself, as the work of the author, users have the opportunity in the comments. Write down what you agree with and not with the author.
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 17 March 2018 11: 55
                0
                Quote: albert
                Maybe you're right, but the pros and cons of the articles should be returned.

                To articles, of course.
                and to the commentators, no
            5. BAI
              BAI 16 March 2018 20: 13
              +6
              With a system with minuses - people will put a minus and without any opposition and their own arguments usually just rushed on. Dialogue does not work.

              Absolutely agree with you.
            6. populist
              populist 17 March 2018 10: 58
              +2
              Tatyana
              I am against the minuses in this case. I consider them superfluous now

              Definitely, I am against the return of minuses in the form in which they were before. Repeatedly I saw how people with the correct point of view flew into the skulls and from the forum. On several topics, he himself could have flown away. Dissent will probably be suppressed.
              Cons against each post, but without removing the rating would be quite interesting.
          5. Seaman77
            Seaman77 16 March 2018 19: 12
            +10
            Cons removed, people at first cursed, now seems to have calmed down. And now they want to return again ... request
            Something reminiscent of the presidential affairs of our current prime minister - Dmitry Anatolyevich and his game with time zones and the transition to winter time ... recourse And the question arises the same: And on .... why was all this ???
            1. DEDPIHTO
              DEDPIHTO 17 March 2018 07: 32
              +3
              The authorities are now constantly changing the rules of the game, you don’t have time to follow the news. As an example, OSAGO. Why adopt such an experience, I also do not understand.
              For me, so these donkeys resemble a children's game, “Zarnitsa,” Or did some people not play enough in the sandbox?
              It is much more important for me to see the pros, i.e. the number of people who agree with the opinion. And the cons, who disagree, go out in a circle and fight. In this case, plus those who are beating in a circle.
              In short, I only propose to remove shoulder straps for it’s only the ches of a child’s EGO (not to be confused with the USE laughing ) and a reason to disassemble, judging by the comments of those present here. hi
              For representatives of the local government shoulder straps to leave. lol What epaulettes are at their discretion wink hi
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 17 March 2018 09: 08
                +3
                DEDPIHTO
                In short, I only propose to remove shoulder straps for this is only the ches of a child’s EGO
                No, shoulder straps cannot be removed! I say it seriously !!!
                This is such a cherished "cherry" on the cake for everyone! Like a combat prize for units on military training maneuvers!
                This is such a chic, ingenious marketing move to promote the site, which is comparable to the genius of the author as a commander of the combat unit who applied it! I just admire this author’s marketing invention!
                Shoulder straps must not be underestimated! Especially on the site "Military Review"!
                I repeat. Shoulder straps are an incomparable psychologically positive marketing INVENTION of the author (s) of the site in the promotion of information products in the vast media on military topics.
                1. DEDPIHTO
                  DEDPIHTO 17 March 2018 09: 24
                  +2
                  love If you knew Tatyana, how I feel about the tribe of marketers ... angry
                  An example, before they produced very durable cars, then marketers came and. 3-5 years old and go buy the same thing, only with added whistle-farts, sorry. hi
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 17 March 2018 10: 21
                    +2
                    DEDPIHTO
                    If you knew Tatyana, how I feel about the tribe of marketers ... angry

                    hi I understand you. Unfortunately, this is a consequence of the pro-American monetarist economy imposed on the whole world - including the Russian Federation including the so-called monetarist economy. pseudo- “free” global market for capital, goods and labor.

                    Marketing has both positive and negative sides - and this depends on who and what a particular marketer serves.
                    Marketing rules need to know.
            2. saigon
              saigon 17 March 2018 07: 50
              +1
              Well, most likely, Dmitry Medvedev in his childhood tapped on his little hands for hours, and got there and let's twist.
          6. siberalt
            siberalt 16 March 2018 19: 22
            +4
            With 400 comments, you won’t become a general. Although for me this is also a mystery. There is an assumption that all of them were previously banned, and then returned with part of the rating, but already with zeroed comments.
            1. poquello
              poquello 16 March 2018 20: 05
              0
              Quote: siberalt
              With 400 comments, you won’t become a general. Although for me this is also a mystery. There is an assumption that all of them were previously banned, and then returned with part of the rating, but already with zeroed comments.

              but here some garbage passed like a subscription, maybe it?
              1. siberalt
                siberalt 16 March 2018 21: 10
                +3
                If 1.000.000 is divided by 400, then a rating of 2500 for each post will be released. That is, no post, no less than 2500. But this is unprecedented in the forum. I’ve been here since the beginning of 2014 and have never seen anything like this. Maybe at least someone will give some kind of link to the marvelous look? belay
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 21: 18
                  +3
                  "Man with a shovel" in an argument, 2-3 years ago, as a "generalissimo", asked administrators to annul his rank to ordinary.
                  I changed my nickname from English to Russian, and got to the biggest epaulettes in a couple of months ....
                  Alexander is a gifted person. His comments are live. It doesn’t work.
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 18 March 2018 13: 43
                    +1
                    Hello Ilyich hi
                    I have ceased to be surprised. So - not so and so - not so. But whining without any specifics - this is please. So also communicate with such kindly "high calm", and they see this as an insult and complain.
                2. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 17 March 2018 01: 15
                  +1
                  Oleg, hi Well, let's say a major general is 200.000, and 1.000.000 is already an army general. By the way, with what I congratulate drinks In your case, I generally got up in a stupor when I looked in profile. 265 pages of comments, a hundred on each - I take off my hat hi True, 20 percent of each deleted for some reason. You should have been made a marshal in half a year, but for some reason, alas. How so?
                  1. siberalt
                    siberalt 17 March 2018 17: 21
                    +2
                    Before the reform, I had a rating weighing five and a half "denominated" marshals. Then the rating was halved for breaking the rules. Hence, 20% of losses. what And that night about 40 unexpectedly fell (which is ten times more than my daily "record") and the marshal turned out in a new rating address. It even became uncomfortable in front of the comrades. winked
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 18 March 2018 11: 37
                      +1
                      Well, when I looked at your profile, there before the army general was missing a couple of thousand in all. While reading - several times plus especially liked, apparently this was just enough. belay Now they’ll probably put me against the wall for this, or they will determine me as the enemy of the people. recourse
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 18 March 2018 12: 33
                        +2
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Now they’ll probably put me against the wall for this, or they will determine me as the enemy of the people.

                        I can understand if they are offended by the minuses .... But when they are surprised by the pluses .... Some nonsense ...
                        Greetings, Sergey!
                        hi
                      2. siberalt
                        siberalt 18 March 2018 12: 47
                        +2
                        Accused of "conspiracy of the generals," at least. laughing
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 18 March 2018 13: 45
                      +1
                      Accused of "conspiracy of the generals," at least.

                      belay I’ll go while I cook the little things and dry the rusks. good drinks
            2. Mikado
              Mikado 16 March 2018 21: 02
              +16
              With 400 comments, you won’t become a general.

              but we have a bunch of "field marshals generals" with stupid "cheers" slogans! to whom the main thing is to blather something earlier, louder, and “more patriotically”, even to unleash a nuclear war instantly from Zimbabwe, without getting up from the couch! they write frank nonsense, but everyone rejoices and applauds! negative is this a forum ?? is this a discussion ?? Yes, I'd rather be banned! am
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 21: 31
                +6
                Nikolay. I was recently at another forum, so they drive such bullshit there that you don’t know what to object to. The idiocy is complete.
                1. Mikado
                  Mikado 16 March 2018 21: 46
                  +10
                  Yes, God, Vladimir, this is all clear! You’ll even go to Shargun’s “free press” - checkmate, no one is fighting trolls. About the "mail" generally keep quiet. You see, I started logging on to the site in the 14th, then streams of dirt poured into our country, trolls raged, and comments were turned off on other sites. And "IN" seemed to me a place where they gathered normal people! Then it was necessary. But now .. Here we are hanging out on the "history" branch. Are there inadequacies there? There are even many. hi So try after the innovation at least once to disagree with the opinion of “cheers-communists”, supporters of pseudo-history, or blurt out something about “St. John the Terrible” and other hyperborean Great Russians under article of one storyteller! am how many minuses will you earn for disagreeing? what Yes, it’s you, and many more will be sent to the ban! and THEY (supporters of the general line of any article) will jump, shout slogans and rejoice! Do you need such a perspective ??? to me - no. I have my own opinion, which I do not impose on anyone, but do not want to depend on the opinion of some degenerate who cannot tear the fifth point from the chair, but she knows exactly how the universe works! am Sorry for the harsh words, but I brought in terms of philosophy. The rule should be: "Live! But do not bother others! And do not impose your will on them!"
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 22: 17
                    +5
                    So it turns out that most impose their opinion. And if I do not agree? I have to grit my teeth, and bite the pillow. crying
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 22: 20
                      +8
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      grit your teeth and gnaw a pillow

                      To the girlfriend ... And to creak a sofa .... lol
                  2. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 17 March 2018 12: 04
                    +3
                    Quote: Mikado
                    So try after the innovation at least once to disagree with the opinion of “cheers-communists”, supporters of pseudo-history, or blurt out something about “St. John the Terrible” and other Hyperborean Great Russians under the article of one storyteller! how many minuses will you earn for disagreeing? Yes, it’s you, and many more will be sent to the ban! and THEY (supporters of the general line of any article) will jump, shout slogans and rejoice! Do you need such a perspective ??? to me - no

                    And I don’t. Because it will be impossible to read a fresh, unusual commentary with a different assessment and look from the majority: they will “trample” it together with the author.
                    Quote: Mikado
                    "Live! But do not bother others! And do not impose your will on them!"

                    good hi
                    1. Mikado
                      Mikado 17 March 2018 19: 11
                      +4
                      And I don’t. Because it will be impossible to read a fresh, unusual commentary with a different assessment and look from the majority: they will “trample” it together with the author.

                      that’s why, Andrey, you and I can differ in views (and often even very much!), but almost always we sit on the same branch. hi drinks Yes, you said what I thought too. I bow! hi
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 17 March 2018 19: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: Mikado
                        that’s why, Andrey, you and I can differ in views (and often even very much!), but almost always we sit on the same branch

                        We can vary, yes, and thank God! After all, it is, after all, just INTERESTING!
                        And we can talk with an interesting interlocutor WITHOUT + or -.
                        Best regards hi
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 17 March 2018 19: 39
                      +4
                      Andrei hi
                      Because it will be impossible to read a fresh, unusual commentary with a different assessment and look from the majority: they will “trample” it together with the author.
                      Here they will be crushed by the minuses, and now you can read all the comments, if they were not deleted for violation. I’m not against the minuses, I’m against their careless use. I thought that the pros make people kinder, made a mistake with Crowe. He bit me for a splash. I’ll go to the hospital to get rabies vaccines.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 17 March 2018 19: 44
                        +5
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        ... wrong with Crowe. He bit me for a splash. I'll go to the hospital ...

                        Plus. Definitely. Sergei hi
                      2. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 21 March 2018 04: 46
                        +6
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Here they will be crushed by the minuses, and now you can read all the comments, if they were not deleted for violation. I’m not against the minuses, I’m against their careless use.

                        I, Sergey, somehow threw “sleepers” for speaking out disrespectfully of VAZ products. Am I to blame that the VAZ does not reach Toyota? I go to RAV-4 for the tenth year, twice a year for maintenance in a home garage for a specialist from the official Toyota center - and all 10 years, by and large, only pour kerosene and glass ...
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        I thought that the pros make people kinder, made a mistake with Crowe.

                        And you are not alone ... recourse
              2. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 16 March 2018 21: 53
                +7
                Quote: Mikado
                we have a bunch of "field marshals generals" with stupid "cheers" slogans! they write frank nonsense, but everyone rejoices and applauds! is this a forum ?? is this a discussion ?? Yes, I'd rather be banned!
                Hello Nikolai! hi The “ban” of marshals and generals worked best in the 30s. And the “minuses” were thrown there weakly, without too much discussion.yes Yes, the "modera" of those years - not a couple of the current. laughing What do we have? We have democracy, and each individual, within the limits of what is permitted, has the right to throw out (well, or cast) everything that has accumulated on the darling. Ban all in half? Not an option, and boring without them. And if it is gagging, there is always an outlet called "History" or "Armament". In these sections, it’s more like silence, peace and comfort in the library, although it happens that they burst into it with swords. But they do not linger for a long time. Well, oh well, we will look, being above the battle. Therefore, I vote for "anyway." And yes, tomorrow, according to already federal law, the VO administration (which is the media, I saw the certificate) will simply have to ban agitators. And since Monday, the site, in theory, should be quieter and cleaner. Something like this. hi
                1. Mikado
                  Mikado 16 March 2018 22: 14
                  +6
                  Alexander, good evening!
                  We have democracy, and each individual, within the limits of what is permitted, has the right to throw out (well, or cast) everything that has accumulated on the darling.

                  Yes. But he has no right to influence my opinion! If I differ in violations of the rules of the site, or anti-Russian rhetoric, there is an administration for this!
                  And if it is gagging, there is always an outlet called "History" or "Armament".

                  for me she’s already two years.
                  .In these sections, she-bo, as in the library - silence, peace and comfort, although it happens, and sometimes they burst into it with swords naked. But they do not linger for a long time.

                  give these "cardboard cheers-patriotic marshals" a gun in their hands in the form of a "minus" - and we will fly out. A demoniac will pass on a branch - carcasses of light. hi
                  This I say, the former police captain Nikolai Mikhailov, living with you in the same area. I have the honor! soldier I want to believe in the mind and humanism ... and we get - "as always"! request
                  1. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 16 March 2018 22: 53
                    +3
                    Quote: Mikado
                    A demoniac will pass on a branch - carcasses of light.

                    For this purpose, as you rightly noted, there is a “dear editorial office”, which at such moments can always be “pre-opened eyes”, while not stooping to banal squealing.
                    Quote: Mikado
                    and we will fly out.

                    And us for what ?! laughing wassat
                    Quote: Mikado
                    I want to believe in the mind and humanism ... and we get - "as always"!

                    If black thoughts come to you
                    uncork champagne bottle ...
                    A.S. Pushkin
                    Sing, harmonica, chorus to spite
                    Sleeping cats in the shower
                    I'll ride a goat yet
                    So what the hell will get sick!
                    NOM
                    1. Mikado
                      Mikado 16 March 2018 23: 18
                      +6
                      I'll ride a goat yet
                      So what the hell will get sick!

                      when some storyteller on a branch of history (you understand who I’m talking about) writes that it was the Slavic-Russians who built the pyramids (and he will write!), just try not to jump and disagree! You’ll find yourself in the “same spot with the African American.” hi
                      1. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 16 March 2018 23: 58
                        +2
                        Quote: Mikado
                        when some storyteller on a branch of history (you understand who I’m talking about) writes that it was the Slavic-Russians who built the pyramids (and he will write!)

                        Ha, we have our own archivist for every storyteller. (I think you also understood who I was talking about). laughing
          7. antivirus
            antivirus 16 March 2018 19: 26
            0
            separation is better than forced sadness without comfort
          8. Andrey K
            Andrey K 16 March 2018 19: 45
            +9
            Quote: Crowe
            ... Now the gangs of "plusers" will conduct their policies. Whoever disagrees with them is in the skull.
            People come to your senses! Your right to freedom of speech will be taken away from you. Take a look at how many false generals and false marshals have become: he himself saw the generals with 400 comments. They pissed me too, so that I would not rock the boat. They will minus you. Their -80 and -100 against the colonel's -25 - do not pull. Many will leave the site. Come to your senses! ...

            That is, at 400 comments, getting a label with the stars yourself is not me, it’s someone in my pants on ... laid belay
            You already decide - either wear underpants or remove the cross laughing
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                1. novel66
                  novel66 16 March 2018 20: 33
                  +4
                  and me ataman, chtoli!
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          9. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2018 20: 43
            +1
            Quote: Crowe
            he saw the generals with 400 comments.

            Examples
            1. Crowe
              Crowe 16 March 2018 21: 02
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Quote: Crowe
              he saw the generals with 400 comments.

              Examples

              Here is a striking example, he stood up for AndreiK.



              Military Review ● Alexanast
              Alexanast
              User: Alexanast
              Status: Online

              Number of comments 447 [Last comments]
              Website rating 254316
              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 16 March 2018 21: 25
                +9
                Quote: Crowe
                ... Here is a striking example, he stood up for AndreiK ...

                Hmm ... belay
                Listen, the logic is reinforced concrete, Psya is resting lol
                You have a gangster mania laughing
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2018 21: 28
                +1
                But didn’t you think that he could also write articles?
                there is another option, check its registration date and the dates of the first comments, I have lost 5 years for XNUMX comments
                1. Crowe
                  Crowe 16 March 2018 21: 34
                  0
                  Publications - 0
                  Admins and moderators have many publications, but the marshal is only one of them.
                  1. Roman Skomorokhov
                    16 March 2018 22: 00
                    +3
                    Quote: Crowe
                    Admins and moderators have many publications, but the marshal is only one of them.


                    Yes, God, we do not need these epaulets!
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 17 March 2018 19: 44
                      +2
                      Novel hi If epaulets were not needed, the site would lose half of the participants. Take off your epaulettes and check my argument. Well, as an experiment, at least for a month. Get the experience - back to the conversation.
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 21: 42
                  +4
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  But didn’t you think that he could also write articles?

                  Well, do not bother you, "offended" in someone else's dirty linen to dig. His hobby is to crawl through garbage cans. In Mi-6 gathered. Instead of Skripal ....
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 16 March 2018 22: 53
                    +3
                    Japatsstal for MI6. It is necessary to produce such materials every six months.
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2018 23: 05
                0
                ask me babai through a search this is not, but give a full link to your personal page
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 17 March 2018 01: 34
                  0
                  Vladimir, for 7 years on the site did not learn how to find the right person? Well, go to your profile and in the address bar change the nickname to the one you are looking for. You will find the major general. But why do you need it? Will you wash the bones too?
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 17 March 2018 12: 12
                    0
                    Well, your way to staying on the site is irrelevant, it’s more like network experience, I organized a search on the site, although it turned out to be easier through Yandex
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 18 March 2018 12: 07
                      0
                      Just this method for the site. I really didn’t sit in networks and I don’t know how to use them. Your method is probably more suitable for searching a person in all networks? I just never set myself such a goal, and if I really need it, I just ask the owner for a link to his page.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 18 March 2018 18: 25
                        +1
                        so there’s no master, a slander was erected on the master
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 21 March 2018 13: 01
                      0
                      so there’s no master, a slander was erected on the master

                      So here he is, a little lower. request What to look for it then?
              4. Alexanast
                Alexanast 17 March 2018 10: 01
                +4
                Quote: Crowe
                User: Alexanast


                Unlike you, I’ve been here a long time.
                And I do not jump from branch to branch, so that the first comment is inserted.
                The article just came out, and the crow has already been marked ....
                So which of us is a careerist?
                I already wrote to you, bird - be simpler and people will reach for you ...
                And if you can’t create your own company, then sit and don’t croak.
          10. Armata
            Armata 16 March 2018 21: 47
            +15
            Hearing karkusha, I reached the generalissimo on this site, like many of my friends, Then they asked me to remove shoulder straps, it’s not about shoulder straps, we tried to find a compromise, the truth between different countries, I respect Igor, Professor, Sanya (they are from Israel). We could argue to the snot about the quality of weapons of our countries, but we respected each other and always fought against racism on this site. Dear admins, return the site to the pros. Otherwise, he is released to the level of seagulls, one shouted, and the whole crowd for shoulder straps begins to yell. Vadim, remember how articles were made, not for the granny, as the pros respected the opinion. Where is now at least one article from the pros? Analytics does not count, any comparative analysis will do. We will not consider reposts either. (A local comrade sent me a repost of my article published on VO, only he took the material from another channel)
            1. Roman Skomorokhov
              16 March 2018 22: 04
              +3
              Quote: Armata
              We could argue about the quality of weapons of our countries, but we respected each other, and always fought against racism on this site.


              So. It was.

              Quote: Armata
              Dear admins return the site of the pro. Otherwise, he is released to the level of gulls, one shouted, and the whole crowd for epaulets, starts yelling


              So no one drove anyone like. Even forgiven systematically and regularly.

              Quote: Armata
              Where is at least one article from the pros?


              Everything is bad? And why don't you write not here, but where they read those to whom you refer? Populism?
          11. not main
            not main 16 March 2018 21: 52
            +5
            Quote: Crowe
            Now the gangs of "positives" will conduct their policies. Who does not agree with them - in the skull.
            People come to your senses! Your right to freedom of speech will be taken away from you. Take a look at how many false generals and false marshals have become: he himself saw the generals with 400 comments. They pissed me too, so that I would not rock the boat. They will minus you. Their -80 and -100 against the colonel's -25 - do not pull. Many will leave the site. Come to your senses!

            And how many left? And the most literate!
          12. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 22: 00
            +6
            Quote: Crowe
            Come to your senses!

            "People of the world!
            Stand for a second!
            Listen up! Listen - there are only enemies around
            !!!! "
            wassat
          13. Dashout
            Dashout 17 March 2018 08: 29
            +4
            Quote: Crowe
            People come to your senses! Your right to freedom of speech will be taken away from you.

            What kind of dirty nature ... Bulk changed clothes or what? What do you cause confusion here, pour out bile? Are you having problems at home? Do some useful work!

            True, it recalls the events of 38 of the year ... the side that the denunciations wrote!
          14. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 17 March 2018 08: 37
            +9
            Quote: Crowe
            People come to your senses! You will be taken away the right to freedom of speech

            Do not take away. You will still be free to write whatever comes to your mind.
            But at the same time you will have to think about how what you have expressed will affect your, um, reting. And, accordingly, somewhere "filter the market."
            IMHO this is absolutely right, otherwise they set up a greenhouse here ... an aquarium for trolls ... "whatever I want, I’m screaming, and I won’t get anything for it."
            And now there will be yes
          15. dison
            dison 17 March 2018 09: 20
            +3
            Come to your senses!

            It remains to repent call. smile
          16. Alexey Sommer
            Alexey Sommer 17 March 2018 13: 21
            +1
            Quote: Crowe
            People come to your senses! Your right to freedom of speech will be taken away from you.

            I fully support.
            At the abolition of the minuses, the "daughters of Soviet officers" crawled into the generals and marshals in the amount of "name is legion to us."
            I think that the admins removed the minuses for this.
            Now the "daughters of Soviet officers" have gained strength and you can return the cons so that they would drive those who disagree in the cons.
            In short, they will introduce cons, on the site you can not go to comments.
            IMHO.
            hi
          17. Korsar4
            Korsar4 17 March 2018 19: 59
            +1
            And what does it matter? Afraid of being demoted? Or will there be motivation to utter indisputable common truths?
          18. intuzazist
            intuzazist 19 March 2018 20: 06
            +1
            Why do you need virtual shoulder straps ?! They can’t take off the real ones ..........
        2. Roman Skomorokhov
          16 March 2018 18: 58
          +16
          Warnings are removed. It is in a year.
          1. Logall
            Logall 16 March 2018 19: 10
            +4
            Today you will get pluses, like your answers! So from May begin to decrease. One at a time or all at once? All nine?
          2. san4es
            san4es 16 March 2018 20: 09
            +7
            Quote: Banshee
            Warnings are removed. It is in a year.

            ... My "four", the second year has gone - I ask "4 to reset the counter"
            1. novel66
              novel66 16 March 2018 20: 34
              +4
              Sasha, hello! hi I have the way too! still for Zhukov received
              1. san4es
                san4es 16 March 2018 21: 11
                +4
                hi ... Well, once they wrote:
                Banshee
                Warnings are removed. It is in a year.
                ... So they’ll take off drinks
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          5. Mikado
            Mikado 16 March 2018 20: 50
            +12
            The novel, taking into account the fact that cheer-patriotic moods often play a very large role on the site (indeed it is!), The introduction of minuses will sometimes lead to the removal of people who get out of this very framework of cheers-patriotism. Let me explain - many are afraid to enter the site simply. Because they will say clever comments, and they will be deceived by slogans. Excuse me, I myself have not left comments on the “news” and “opinions” for a long time, because instead of discussing, there is a shower of slogans, often silly: "wow, we are the strongest! wow, we will defeat everyone!"The same thing happens in other sections. The introduction of cons will mean "the power of the crowd". And after some time, the esteemed administration, and including you with the sincerely esteemed Domocles, will write articles demanding - "People, change your mind!" hi that is, we must understand what the site itself is - a platform for pleasant communication, or a platform for slogans and abuse with dissenting people. There will be a lot of reasons: you do not like Grudinin / Nicholas II / the ancient Slavic gods (insert the necessary) - "minus", do not like the "ancient Hyperborean Slavs according to Samsonov" - "minus", did not agree with the jingo-patriots who are ready right now to gag with the atomic bomb Washington / Kiev / residence of the opponent - "MINUS". My opinion is that you can’t enter the cons right now. Otherwise, only "couch patriots" will remain on the site, and the discussion will go into oblivion. And for the deduction of "flying trololo" the forum itself and moderators must work. hi there is nothing to be ashamed of complaining about an insult or trolling - this is our site, it should not turn into a garbage dump, there is no place for “vagrants” here. soldier
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 17 March 2018 20: 05
              +2
              The discussion will not go away. It would be a matter of discussion and people who have something to say.
              And there will be pros and cons, there will be no pluses or minuses - nothing will change. And you can’t save on salaries for officers.

              "And plant these in the Duma.
              Things will go no worse for them.
              But they don’t ask "(c)
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 17 March 2018 20: 08
                +3
                The discussion will not go away. It would be a matter of discussion and people who have something to say.

                won't go away. I suddenly realized that we would certainly defend the "native sandbox" with our mighty bunch. soldier drinks
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 17 March 2018 20: 11
                  +3
                  “You're lying,” I scream. "Naughty" - screaming.
                  But also the spirit of ambition. "(C).
                  1. Mikado
                    Mikado 18 March 2018 11: 35
                    +4
                    "Well, of course, I ran .. I called moderation .. "They kill, I say, right on the couch!"(rephrase Vladimir Semenovich) drinks
          6. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 20: 57
            +6
            Yeah. You put me in a bathhouse for three weeks, so I climbed onto another site. I. Yeeeeelki ... There are Bandera people around. Here, I’m sort of breaching with them, as far as possible. I'm tired already. Fair.
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          1. ZHIGAN
            ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 20: 39
            +1
            Totally agree good
        4. twviewer
          twviewer 16 March 2018 21: 34
          +3
          Looking for cons in the comments on BO?

          It is useless to rearrange beds.

          PS but if you really thought it over - let there be marshals with skulls.
        5. gm9019
          gm9019 17 March 2018 13: 17
          0
          Quote: siberalt
          Warnings could be “amnestied”, at least once a year, as a disciplinary punishment, not “left forever stigmatized.”

          With both hands - FOR! good
        6. Simple
          Simple 17 March 2018 20: 58
          0
          Quote: siberalt
          Warnings could be pardoned at least once a year,


          What kind of holiday is this?
        7. The black
          The black 18 March 2018 13: 55
          0
          Quote: siberalt
          , do not "stigmatize forever."

          Smiled ... smile
      3. RASKAT
        RASKAT 16 March 2018 18: 36
        +11
        Yes, yes, I also have a couple of flights. I would like to get rid. Now I don’t dabble anymore, I obey my mother, eat porridge, and all such of myself is right. repeat
      4. Korax71
        Korax71 16 March 2018 19: 18
        +1
        Same trouble repeat In this situation, I’m ready to immediately get 500 pieces bully
      5. Elena Zakharova
        Elena Zakharova 19 March 2018 15: 12
        +2
        I support with two hands!
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 16 March 2018 18: 06
      +26
      But, approximately in a couple of months, if the public votes "for" the return of the "minuses", the implementation of this functionality is possible.

      On the site, the cons seemed to be canceled before the elections to the State Duma. I said that the elections will be held and the minuses will be returned. But no, I was mistaken. Now everything is clear: the presidential election will be held, and cons can be returned. Everything is right! If cons were resolved during the presidential election campaign, then the site would have blushed from the cons of Putin’s opponents. In their frenzied criticism of the president, normal website visitors who support Putin’s policies would be mercilessly bombarded. Well, now, after the elections, let them minus from the heart. smile
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            1. antivirus
              antivirus 16 March 2018 19: 28
              0
              sleeps without a mattress?
              on stones or sawdust?
            2. Andrey K
              Andrey K 16 March 2018 19: 32
              +9
              Quote: Nagan
              ... You, dear, anti-Americanism has become an obsession, you need to be treated. By the way, with orientation and identification itself, how? Usually who is the loudest screaming "hold the thief"? ...

              Dear, I will deal with my ideas without strangers, as well as with diagnoses.
              For what purpose are you interested in orientation?
              Did you hear about sodomy?
          3. Senior manager
            Senior manager 16 March 2018 20: 10
            +5
            No need to do a minus with any tool. Let it be just a colleague’s attitude to the voiced idea and opinion. Plus, leave it with all the properties. The confrontation will become less tense. Honestly, I relate to this arithmetic.
        2. Monos
          Monos 16 March 2018 18: 37
          +16
          Quote: GIGAN
          For me, the "putinoids" are possessed fool

          laughing laughing You minus. Enter the minus in the "turtles" die. laughing
          1. poquello
            poquello 16 March 2018 20: 10
            +3
            Quote: Monos
            Quote: GIGAN
            For me, the "putinoids" are possessed fool

            laughing laughing You minus. Enter the minus in the "turtles" die. laughing

            but not a fact, lovers of red are plentiful
        3. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 16 March 2018 18: 37
          +11
          Quote: GIGAN
          For me, the "putinoids" are possessed

          Where to us, before the State Department he sang along! tongue
        4. vovanpain
          vovanpain 16 March 2018 18: 40
          +29
          Quote: GIGAN
          For me, the "putinoids" are possessed fool

          My dear man, now I’ve definitely decided, cons are needed yes I would surely have slapped you wholeheartedly and not for the position. I respect her, as well as your opinion, but for RUDNESS, no one is nice to you, not a “sternum”, “neither Sobchakonoid”, and you will vote for whom your right and business, but your opponents do not need to be rude. hi
          Quote: Wend
          If you do not like the article or comment, write with what I disagree, discuss, operate on the facts. And so the minus does not agree and "went further", and the author does not understand what the minuses are.

          And for this Anatoly can do this, click on the number of likes and a window opens where you could see who voted against and who voted for and you can ask to justify what is minus or plus, I registered when there was an unconscious plus and minus, but before there were also completely frank Russophobes and matyuzhniks being driven into the skulls. People thought that they wrote in the comments, and not like now, but I do not like this one and it went and went. hi hi
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            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 16 March 2018 18: 55
              +10
              Quote: GIGAN
              I’m not campaigning for anyone. I criticize only the current government ... Think a little and you will be happy ... love

              Once again, thank God that you are not campaigning, this campaigning on the site got so much, many simply left the site before the 19th day and it is not known whether to criticize, but for God's sake, criticize with arguments and facts, and not with pouring inoids on each other and demoniac, we are all citizens of one country and wish it prosperity and development, and in disputes, as they say, truth is born, and in insults only scuffle and who needs it. hi hi
              1. Archivist Vasya
                Archivist Vasya 16 March 2018 19: 08
                +3
                Something Mikhan is not visible by the way ... how can now without him. sad
                1. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 16 March 2018 19: 11
                  +9
                  Quote: Archivist Vasya
                  Something Mikhan is not visible by the way ... how can now without him. sad

                  In the bathhouse of a colleague, our political officer, repeat Washes away his sins. request
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 19: 32
                    +3
                    So he swore ... Really violated?
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 16 March 2018 22: 56
                      +8
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Really violated?

                      I told him to get drunk ... and not just me.
                      But, see, not a horse request
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 23: 08
                        +1
                        And without Mikhan it’s boring. And Gridasov is writing something wrong. recourse
              2. ZHIGAN
                ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 20: 10
                0
                Do not pull the blanket over you and you will be happy hi
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 16 March 2018 21: 38
                  +4
                  Do not pull the blanket over you and you will be happy

                  What is it? Only exceptional allowed? Is everyone else a “taboo"?
            2. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 16 March 2018 23: 01
              +2
              You do not criticize, you insult. You didn’t grow up to criticism.
          2. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 16 March 2018 19: 39
            +10
            Quote: vovanpain
            justify for which minus or plus

            Yes, there were already proposals of this kind, something like that - an assessment can only be put after a comment in which you will justify your assessment. On the one hand it’s right, but on the other each will justify each his own assessment, then the discussion of the material will consist of a mass of homogeneous kamenty. And such a discussion is unlikely to be interesting to read.
            And about the return of minuses, personally I xs - maybe right, maybe not. Mb is worth introducing some kind of limit on the number of affixed ratings.
            But what I would definitely like is the introduction of another button - Flud. It is no secret that there are many people who scribble tons of komentas that do not carry any meaning (as an example, the first kament from this topic), and through which you have to make your way. And if such a kament gains a certain number of ratings Flud, then it must be checked by the moderator. The moderator checked, and if he agreed that this is really a flood, then the kament is deleted. Together with the pros. I think this will reduce the amount of garbage.
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 16 March 2018 20: 00
              +7
              Quote: rkkasa 81
              But what I would definitely like is the introduction of another button - Flood

              Alexey hi The moderators now either delete comments or send comments before the flood, I myself have two blinders for this, but the idea is correct. Hello Vasya, hello Petya. In PM you can talk, but it’s better to talk about the news on the topic. hi
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 16 March 2018 23: 38
                +6
                Stroporez famously said - hello Bear, Grishka, horseradish, monkey. laughing
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        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 16 March 2018 18: 39
          +3
          Quote: OBEREG
          And in this regard, the cons will be useful, reducing the ardor of both trolls and the hot heads of normal members of the forum.

          True: minus minus - it turns out a plus! yes
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 16 March 2018 19: 25
            +2
            And who will determine the temperature of the head of each member of the forum? Are you or me? laughing Who comes home from the cold, it seems to him that everyone is hot, and so what?
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        2. helmi8
          helmi8 16 March 2018 18: 53
          +15
          Quote: OBEREG
          And here the question is posed as soon as the modernization has not responded to the comments of the troll or the provocateur, the forum users with hot heads have time to answer his work on the VO and, when the modernization begins to remove and ban the troll, normal forum users who just did not pass by . And in the end, trolls knock out normal visitors from the clip of the site, as the moderators ban them to the heap with the troll.

          I apologize for the immodesty, I want to share my experience ... I am a moderator on a music site. We have such a system there: there are pros and cons. When you hover over a quantity, a list of those who put these pluses and minuses appears. And when you hover the cursor over the nickname under the rating, you can see all the ratings of the person, and the pros and cons. So we identify the trolls and those who are minus the specific author of the comment. Someone explains his position, someone does not. But for the constant and unreasonable minus of people just bans without any problems. Something like that...
          If the Administration is interested, I can drop the screenshots in the LAN.
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            1. Tersky
              Tersky 16 March 2018 19: 21
              +7
              Quote: OBEREG
              As a result, modernization is not very well understood ... there is abuse, it is necessary to punish everyone, and not just the one who started this abuse.

              The moderator's task is to oversee the participants' compliance with the site rules and the purity of their comments. You can be right a thousand times right in a debate with an opponent but by allowing a mate, insult, rudeness in the response, you violate the VO rules in respect of it, which entails a corresponding punishment. Do not respond to rudeness, rudeness, insult to insult, watch the speech. If you are provoked, trolled, you are rude, for such cases, under each comment there is an option "Complaint", your application will not be left without attention. hi
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          3. Tersky
            Tersky 16 March 2018 19: 11
            +3
            Quote: helmi8
            If the Administration is interested, I can drop the screenshots in the LAN.

            Please send Vadim Smirnov with a description of the functional \, (at the very bottom of the main page of the site the "contacts" option) I think that your proposal has a rational kernel.
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          5. siberalt
            siberalt 16 March 2018 19: 30
            +4
            The idea is good. But having seen the list of minuses, the touchy forum member will minus them in return without even reading their posts. The Cold War forum will begin. belay
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      3. Roman Skomorokhov
        16 March 2018 19: 03
        +6
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Now everything is clear: the presidential election will be held, and you can return the minuses. That's right! If the minuses were resolved during the presidential election campaign, the site would turn red from the minuses of Putin’s opponents.


        Dope Two years ago, we foresaw all this? A compliment, however ...
        1. Don
          Don 16 March 2018 20: 50
          0
          YOU are one of the moderators, as I understand it?
      4. lis-ik
        lis-ik 16 March 2018 20: 55
        +4
        Quote: SRC P-15
        But, approximately in a couple of months, if the public votes "for" the return of the "minuses", the implementation of this functionality is possible.

        On the site, the cons seemed to be canceled before the elections to the State Duma. I said that the elections will be held and the minuses will be returned. But no, I was mistaken. Now everything is clear: the presidential election will be held, and cons can be returned. Everything is right! If cons were resolved during the presidential election campaign, then the site would have blushed from the cons of Putin’s opponents. In their frenzied criticism of the president, normal website visitors who support Putin’s policies would be mercilessly bombarded. Well, now, after the elections, let them minus from the heart. smile

        I also believed and defended the president for a long time, but he seemed to want to spit on us all taken together, the main thing was his gang of liberal thieves and not to offend them. The tradition of "forward kicking" from top positions in Russia continues.
    3. Vend
      Vend 16 March 2018 18: 09
      +22
      I don’t see the point. If you do not like the article or comment, write with what I disagree, discuss, operate on the facts. And so the minus does not agree and "went further", and the author does not understand what the minuses are.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 16 March 2018 18: 26
        +10
        Quote: Wend
        I don’t see the point. If you do not like the article or comment, write with what I disagree, discuss, operate on the facts. And so the minus does not agree and "went further", and the author does not understand what the minuses are.

        Partly support. I am for the return of the minus, but through justification, so that there remains the possibility of a "conversation" during which the parties could either reasonably convince the opponent, or admit their cant if the opponent has reinforced concrete arguments and is right. Of course, I come across pretzels that come purely to troll the audience - it’s raining on the head of the minuses, but the bulk of the site’s visitors are quite decent interlocutors.
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 16 March 2018 20: 57
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          for the return of the minus, but through justification

          Only a brief justification, and then again a new comment is obtained.
        2. Senior manager
          Senior manager 16 March 2018 22: 45
          +4
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          reasonably convince an opponent

          I see idealism in your words. Each person has his own position, this is a utopia in the comments of anyone to convince anyone, in my opinion this is possible only in technical matters, and then, a different level of knowledge does not always make it possible to reach out to the opponent. The second point - the topic can be buried in the rationale for the pros and cons. The third point is lyrical digressions like "how healthy life is, how much it took to the chest, etc., they just clog up the exchange of opinions, there is a personal message, chat. Who cares what minus take an interest in, again in a personal one. There will definitely be more discussions organized. "Pretzels" are not very many, I think moderators could handle. Something like this.
      2. reservist
        reservist 16 March 2018 18: 31
        +6
        Now, if the “minus” could not be put without argument ...
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 16 March 2018 19: 02
          +9
          Quote: reservist
          Now, if the “minus” could not be put without argument ...

          Little of:
          - who has the title even before the captain, then only those with a captain and above cannot put cons. (this is for randomly entered trolls of minusculeers).
          - Further, the cons become visible only starting with three to five pieces and above. (And then I saw a minus and then another forum member sculpts him without reading the contents).
          - the limit of minuses is either by time 1 in 5 minutes, or by the total number in the chat, for example, not more than 5, and the higher the rank by 1 minus can be added from the star. (so that on the right and on the left anyhow how not to give out awards, but to think who cares and who to consciously skip because the business says).
        2. Irokez
          Irokez 16 March 2018 19: 28
          +8
          Quote: reservist
          Now, if the "minus" without argument could not be put

          And yes, I forgot to write. As minutes are pressed, a window immediately appears with argumentation of minus for example:
          - Troll
          - Provocateur
          - Inadequate
          - Matershinnik
          - Liar
          - Other (where you need to type 3-4 words to explain the reason)
          The number of arguments can be expanded at the discretion of the administration.
          After that, at least there will be statistics for which he is punished. All statistics can be looked at by moving the mouse cursor over the number of minuses where this window will be displayed with the number of minuses for each line.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 16 March 2018 20: 13
            +3
            Quote: Irokez
            - Other (where you need to type 3-4 words to explain the reason)


            all these words are entered in the filter .. laughing
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 16 March 2018 20: 45
              +1
              Quote: vorobey
              all these words are entered in the filter

              The Russian language is rich and can be translated by analogs (in cultural words). love
            2. Svarog51
              Svarog51 16 March 2018 21: 45
              +1
              Sanya hi The Russian language is multifaceted, there is always a replacement. wink
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 16 March 2018 18: 41
        +12
        After canceling the minuses, it became much easier on the forum to breathe from all sorts of rabble of random or intentional "aliens". The forum has become much more democratic and cleaner from the obscene. How can one explain the fact that after the cancellation of the minuses, the stray fake guns disappeared somewhere or became a rarity? It already smelled like a crowd effect. A couple of three voiced statements against and rushed!
        Again about black epaulets. As soon as someone earned them out of inability to integrate into the stream (outline) of the forum, he was immediately buried with minuses to the skulls on the shoulder straps.
        In the current version, an empty (zero) post can already indicate its rejection by the forum participants or that it "hooked no one. But in any case, this is already perceived as a minus. Is there still an additional symbolic mark for this? It seems that this is not at all required.
        1. Vend
          Vend 16 March 2018 18: 47
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          After canceling the minuses, it became much easier on the forum to breathe from all sorts of rabble of random or intentional "aliens". The forum has become much more democratic and cleaner from the obscene. How can one explain the fact that after the cancellation of the minuses, the stray fake guns disappeared somewhere or became a rarity? It already smelled like a crowd effect. A couple of three voiced statements against and rushed!
          Again about black epaulets. As soon as someone earned them out of inability to integrate into the stream (outline) of the forum, he was immediately buried with minuses to the skulls on the shoulder straps.
          In the current version, an empty (zero) post can already indicate its rejection by the forum participants or that it "hooked no one. But in any case, this is already perceived as a minus. Is there still an additional symbolic mark for this? It seems that this is not at all required.

          I agree with your arguments. I was often buried with minuses in the beginning.
          1. Roman Skomorokhov
            16 March 2018 19: 07
            +5
            Quote: Wend
            I was often buried with minuses at the beginning.


            But you also dig out. Not?
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 16 March 2018 19: 21
              +4
              Quote: Banshee
              Quote: Wend
              I was often buried with minuses at the beginning.


              But you also dig out. Not?


              I remember the bad longer .... By the way, the novel should be included in the filter in the light of recent events ... Beginner .. laughing Considering that the site is really honored by the eyes of others lol
              1. Roman Skomorokhov
                16 March 2018 19: 38
                +1
                Quote: vorobey
                By the way, the novel needs to include another word in the filter in the light of recent events ... Novice .. laughing considering that the site is actually being read by someone else's eyes lol


                Ah ... U ... Exactly! Add.
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 16 March 2018 21: 50
                  +6
                  But what about him?
                  1. vorobey
                    vorobey 17 March 2018 01: 43
                    +3
                    To the confessor, it’s just that ... laughing laughing Fate wassat wassat
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 18 March 2018 12: 23
                      +1
                      To him with confession, it’s the best thing ..

                      And where to apply with voluntary recognition? I, too, just in case of fire, will file, and then suddenly Svarog will be included in the filter. tongue I’ll get stuck in the filter, but my bear will crawl through and do this without me. laughing
          2. Senior manager
            Senior manager 16 March 2018 22: 51
            0
            Quote: Wend
            Quote: siberalt
            After canceling the minuses, it became much easier on the forum to breathe from all sorts of rabble of random or intentional "aliens". The forum has become much more democratic and cleaner from the obscene. How can one explain the fact that after the cancellation of the minuses, the stray fake guns disappeared somewhere or became a rarity? It already smelled like a crowd effect. A couple of three voiced statements against and rushed!
            Again about black epaulets. As soon as someone earned them out of inability to integrate into the stream (outline) of the forum, he was immediately buried with minuses to the skulls on the shoulder straps.
            In the current version, an empty (zero) post can already indicate its rejection by the forum participants or that it "hooked no one. But in any case, this is already perceived as a minus. Is there still an additional symbolic mark for this? It seems that this is not at all required.

            For such a citation, too, must be minus, it's just cluttering up the discussion.
        2. ZHIGAN
          ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 19: 03
          +2
          Put a plus! Sensible justification, leave everything as it is! good
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 19: 37
            +5
            I do not agree! I want to see how many people are against my opinion.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 17 March 2018 15: 36
              +1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              I want to see how many people are against my opinion.

              What for?! belay
      4. AndreyS
        AndreyS 16 March 2018 18: 50
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        I don’t see the point. If you do not like the article or comment, write with what I disagree, discuss, operate on the facts. And so the minus does not agree and "went further", and the author does not understand what the minuses are.

        So that’s the point, dear Wend, that the frenzied comrades on both sides of the coast somehow forget that they just need to argue their opinion, so there are comments after which I really want to put a minus, because the arguments in the comment are just dumb assaults with invented facts and stories, and those who are with them in the same boat quickly throw pluses and throw op, la “captains” a couple of days after registration.
        1. Vend
          Vend 16 March 2018 18: 53
          +5
          Quote: AndreyS
          Quote: Wend
          I don’t see the point. If you do not like the article or comment, write with what I disagree, discuss, operate on the facts. And so the minus does not agree and "went further", and the author does not understand what the minuses are.

          So that’s the point, dear Wend, that the frenzied comrades on both sides of the coast somehow forget that they just need to argue their opinion, so there are comments after which I really want to put a minus, because I can justify my attacks on the current or future the ruler is simply not going to, and those who are with them in the same boat quickly throw a plus sign and op, la “captains” a couple of days after registration.

          Against me, there was often one comment of 5 minuses, and sometimes more. It is better to cancel epaulets, and do not enter cons.
          1. poquello
            poquello 16 March 2018 20: 21
            +2
            Quote: Wend
            Here against me often there was 5 minus one comment

            What garbage, about two hundred do not want?
          2. AUL
            AUL 17 March 2018 09: 26
            +4
            Quote: Wend
            It is better to cancel epaulets, and do not enter cons.

            Absolutely correct thought! By the way, the number of stupid comments will drop sharply, and the number of site participants. But this is the case that Lenin said - "Better less, but better!"
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 17 March 2018 15: 41
              0
              Quote: AUL
              By the way, the number of stupid comments will drop sharply

              Certainly, because the incentive to write them (gain as many advantages as possible) will be lost.
              Quote: AUL
              and the number of site members.

              Why so? Just readers will leave less empty comments.
              It is better.
    4. Dimontius
      Dimontius 16 March 2018 18: 19
      +6
      dada, and so that as before big numbers are green or red! so that immediately. and then a lot of empty comments or populist ....
    5. Finches
      Finches 16 March 2018 20: 06
      +3
      Minus the fool will not fix, plus truth will not add - but that is not the point!
    6. san4es
      san4es 16 March 2018 20: 23
      +1
      Quote: RASKAT
      Twenty cons, tribunal and execution. laughing
      soldier ... 30 - to the Fine
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        1. NN52
          NN52 16 March 2018 22: 45
          +13
          Svarog51

          I wanted to clarify with you about NEXUS, ...
          What happened?
          It seems he was always in adequate?
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 17 March 2018 01: 51
            +1
            I did not see what topic, but I know for sure that he received an eternal bath. For what sins, I also don’t know.
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      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        16 March 2018 22: 12
        +1
        Would you climb into someone else's pocket. You look, and in your everything would be normal.

        And do not be so happy. Everything is fine with us. And that is why we can afford it.
    8. ser-pov
      ser-pov 17 March 2018 01: 37
      0
      Pros and cons of this class! It would be nice to know who put you a minus, and who is a plus ..
    9. Novichok
      Novichok 17 March 2018 16: 05
      +1
      Quote: RASKAT
      Twenty cons, tribunal and execution. laughing

      Without the right to correspond ... wink
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 21 March 2018 13: 34
        +1
        Without the right to correspond ...
        good
        With reference .... to the Maldives ... forever.
    10. 73bor
      73bor 18 March 2018 02: 08
      +1
      After the cancellation of the minuses, everything became as everywhere, illiterate, unfounded, boring!
  2. Roman Skomorokhov
    16 March 2018 17: 55
    +12
    How many over the past year there have been cries on the theme “Return the minuses !!!” ... How many, apparently, tears were wiped out at night ... Well, everything is now in your hands)))
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 16 March 2018 18: 00
      +12
      let there be cons!
      1. ZHIGAN
        ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 18: 04
        +9
        Let there be a minus wink are you here at work or what? lol
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 16 March 2018 18: 11
          +12
          Quote: GIGAN
          Let there be a minus wink are you here at work or what? lol

          Here for such a comment, you could safely put a "minus"
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            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 16 March 2018 18: 43
              +11
              Quote: GIGAN
              ... did you change the shoes of a German-Russian patriot? laughing But what about the old nickname rusland? lol...

              I am making a comment to you.
              Do not be rude, write in Russian correctly - "patriot".
              1. ZHIGAN
                ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 18: 52
                +3
                I wrote it specifically for the pyramidon! I am writing in Cyrillic, so why don’t you give comments to those who have Latin letters wassat Pyramidon used to have nickname Russland ...?
                1. Andrey K
                  Andrey K 16 March 2018 19: 09
                  +9
                  Quote: GIGAN
                  ... I wrote it specifically for the pyramidon! I am writing in Cyrillic, so why don’t you give comments to those who have Latin letters wassat Pyramidon used to have nickname Russland ...? ...

                  Well, let's say who writes what nickname to himself - this is everyone’s business, although I agree with you: a nickname in Latin, on a Russian site, the eye hurts. But not critical, this is the user's own business yes
                  What was your nickname before?
                  You registered 10 days ago, but you know what Piramidon had lol
                  I can say for myself. I speak my opinion in person, I don’t change my shoes in flight, the nickname is in Russian and corresponds to the word nickname itself - this is the name that my parents called me hi
                  1. Vadim Zhivov
                    Vadim Zhivov 16 March 2018 19: 23
                    +3
                    Plus for you ... I, too, under my own name
                  2. ZHIGAN
                    ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 19: 32
                    +2
                    Fight! But I did not comment, I read more, delirium of the comrades, agitating their current government! Well, what if a friend from the near abroad doesn’t really write in Russian ?! A patriot or a patriot ... Yes, and many write on phones where there is an auto-replacement and it is not always possible to fix a mistake in time, what now is all this warning? request I also do not bustle and I say as it is and I will not be freed before you.
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 16 March 2018 20: 14
                      +6
                      Quote: GIGAN
                      ... But I did not comment, I read more ...

                      It is necessary, even necessary, to express one’s point of view. For this, everyone gathered here.
                      ... Well, what if a friend from near abroad doesn’t write very well in Russian?! ...

                      In Russian it is written through a hyphen - in Russian, no offense. As for comrades from neighboring countries, young people are not up to discussions about who is older - they speak competent speech, with very few exceptions.
                      ... a patriot or patriot ...

                      Verification word "πατρίς"(Greek) - fatherland.
                      ... I also don’t bustle and I say as it is and I won’t be liars before you ...

                      He didn’t even imagine that he should be fooled before me. This is absolutely useless - it’s enough to have your own opinion, which you can clearly, reasonably, competently and not be rude yes
                  3. Russia
                    Russia 16 March 2018 21: 29
                    +12
                    Quote: Andrey K
                    Quote: GIGAN
                    ... I wrote it specifically for the pyramidon! I am writing in Cyrillic, so why don’t you give comments to those who have Latin letters wassat Pyramidon used to have nickname Russland ...? ...

                    Well, let's say who writes what nickname to himself - this is everyone’s business, although I agree with you: a nickname in Latin, on a Russian site, the eye hurts. But not critical, this is the user's own business yes
                    What was your nickname before?
                    You registered 10 days ago, but you know what Piramidon had lol
                    I can say for myself. I speak my opinion in person, I don’t change my shoes in flight, the nickname is in Russian and corresponds to the word nickname itself - this is the name that my parents called me hi

                    Andrey, good evening hi Zhigan in each of his opponents sees me, even somehow pleasantly. smile
                    1. Piramidon
                      Piramidon 16 March 2018 22: 28
                      +2
                      Quote: Rusland
                      Zhigan in each of his opponents sees me, even somehow pleasantly.

                      I would like to understand why he connected me with you. I can’t understand. He has absolutely no logic.
                      1. Andrey K
                        Andrey K 16 March 2018 23: 07
                        +5
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        ... I would like to understand why he connected me with you. I can’t understand. He has absolutely no logic ...

                        Stepan, you and I are somewhere on the forum, once even ordered something to each other. I did not suspect that you are also the guru of this child lol
                        It’s impossible to understand how it’s crammed into the unplanned, therefore you can’t catch the opponent’s logic laughing
                    2. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 16 March 2018 23: 05
                      +5
                      Quote: Rusland
                      ... Zhigan in each of his opponents sees me, even somehow pleasantly. smile...

                      Be healthy Vitaliy hi
                      Strongly from "amenities" do not be arrogant, you see what authority, rave about you laughing
                  4. zhekazs
                    zhekazs 25 March 2018 11: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: Andrey K
                    a nickname in Latin, on a Russian site, the eye hurts.

                    For many, this is a matter of habit, sitting in the subcortex since the very first win, in order to avoid font collisions, denote the names in Latin letters, yet we are sitting on bourgeois OSs.
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 25 March 2018 11: 49
                      +4
                      Quote: zhekazs
                      ... For many, this is a matter of habit, sitting in the subcortex since the very first win, in order to avoid font conflicts, denote the names in Latin letters, yet we are sitting on bourgeois OSs ...

                      Eugene, this is everyone’s business - how to write and how to be called. I do not impose my opinion. But still I insist on respect for my alphabet and mother tongue hi
                2. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 16 March 2018 21: 30
                  +4
                  Quote: GIGAN
                  Pyramidon used to have nickname Russland ...?

                  Where did you get that I had the nickname "Russland"? Or do you, like that aunt May from foggy Albion, pass off your fantasies as reality? Those who are interested know me by name through the profile ...
      2. AUL
        AUL 16 March 2018 18: 08
        +13
        I would like it to be necessary when explaining the minus to explain with my comment what the minus is for. Without comment, minus would not be counted. And if you just return the cons - I am against!
        But the black list is desperately needed! And then some individuals so mess up the site that it is impossible to read!
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 16 March 2018 18: 10
          +2
          it would be necessary to clarify with your comment


          how?

          I apologize very much, but I put you a minus because I think that ...


          So ?
          1. AUL
            AUL 16 March 2018 18: 15
            +4
            it would be necessary to clarify with your comment
            how?
            I apologize very much, but I put you a minus because I think that ...
            So ?
            It's hard to answer stupid questions ...
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 16 March 2018 21: 54
              +1
              I'm talking about a technical question. Will it be possible to put a minus only after you have argued, leaving your answer under the comment? The icon will become active and can you click it? But will it be necessary to wait for your comment and minus to be moderated by admins and it will appear only after a while?

              Or the moderator will watch who clicked the minus and who left a comment (strictly on the topic) and remove the plus?

              It's hard to answer stupid questions ...


              I understand that it’s difficult, but necessary. Imagine that you write a technical task for the site administration.

              TK is my pain. When I read them, I begin to think about the border of human stupidity instead of work.
          2. ZHIGAN
            ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 18: 28
            +4
            Only for such comments will you grab the most tonsils yes
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 16 March 2018 21: 27
              0
              believe me, somehow I can handle this trouble
        2. your1970
          your1970 16 March 2018 18: 34
          0
          Yeah, I ran and what?
        3. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 16 March 2018 21: 27
          0
          Quote: AUL
          I would like it to be necessary when explaining the minus to explain with my comment what the minus is for.

          In the old days, it was, and there was also a function where you could see who was plus and minus you.
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 07
      +8
      Quote: Banshee
      How many over the past year there have been cries on the theme “Return the minuses !!!” ... How many, apparently, tears were wiped out at night ... Well, everything is now in your hands)))


      Romaan, Good health .. hi Long live the new conspiracies of the marshals .. laughing cons also removed at the request of viewers old-timers remember all the drinking. laughing got excited .. need to be returned .. there must be a civilized way to express disagreement with opinion .. tired of waving a shovel .. laughing

      but how am I doing it in one evening and the gene of majors turned into a general colonel .. I didn’t express brilliant thoughts as usual .. repeat
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 16 March 2018 18: 30
        +14
        Return cons definitely. The VO participants themselves will be able, at least by minuses, to rationalize some particularly quick users jumping from topic to topic with only one goal - flood and trolling.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 34
          +5
          Quote: Tersky
          for one purpose only - flood


          Fucked up? And I, and We .. and talk? Hi Vit drinks
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 16 March 2018 18: 47
            +8
            Quote: vorobey
            ... fucked up? And I, and We .. and talk? Hi Vit drinks...

            Greetings Sash, so Victor is talking about that upstart to talk about how everything in the “Honduras” is ... well interfere laughing
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 16 March 2018 19: 02
            +5
            Quote: vorobey
            And I, and We .. and talk?

            Hi Sanya! drinks ! One hundred years, one hundred winters. Sparrow like a bird is not migratory, but you "flew away" in the fall, and it just started to cry out laughing ! And you say - flood .... laughing
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 16 March 2018 19: 37
              +3
              Quote: Tersky
              Sparrow like a bird is not migratory, but you "flew away" in the fall, and it just started to cry out


              I had a lot of events .. Vit .. as one doctor told me .. why are you here .. stuck between portals? lol
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 16 March 2018 19: 43
                +4
                Quote: vorobey
                one doctor .. why are you here .. stuck between portals?

                Clear, Sanya. It can be seen that there were no toys. Let's talk about the details in PM.
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 16 March 2018 22: 04
                  +1
                  Hi Victor hi Is my message ignored? Or can I wait for an answer? Hi Sanya and me, when you talk.
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 16 March 2018 19: 38
          +3
          The flood and trolling are monitored by moderators. And for you there is a button "inform". hi
      2. Roman Skomorokhov
        16 March 2018 19: 10
        +1
        Greetings!
        Quote: vorobey
        Long live the new marshal conspiracies .. laughing


        No ... It won't.

        Quote: vorobey
        there must be a civilized way of expressing disagreement with the opinion ..


        Well, we think we found it.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 16 March 2018 19: 13
          +7
          Quote: Banshee
          Well, we think we found it.


          So who is the Violin ... laughing laughing laughing
          1. Roman Skomorokhov
            16 March 2018 19: 40
            +3
            Quote: vorobey
            So who is the Violin ...


            Well, thanks for the kind word.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 16 March 2018 19: 46
              +4
              Quote: Banshee
              Quote: vorobey
              So who is the Violin ...


              Well, thanks for the kind word.


              There is an opinion that our dialogue on this topic will be announced tomorrow .. Teresa May .. and will be regarded as the main evidence ...
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 16 March 2018 22: 06
                +2
                Mother Teresa! So here it is! wassat
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 19: 45
          +5
          Forgive my meager opinion, comrade. moderators, but I think that the minuses should be returned. Bad without them. laughing
      3. midivan
        midivan 16 March 2018 19: 48
        +4
        Quote: vorobey
        and how am I in one evening and the gene of majors turned into a general colonel ..

        Quote: vorobey
        tired shovel wave ..

        Waved a shovel and you (you) rich yes laughing
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 16 March 2018 22: 08
          +1
          Ivan hi
          Waved a shovel and you (you) rich

          Well, not so - "Dug a shovel and you're rich. " wink
    3. CHARM
      CHARM 16 March 2018 18: 08
      +16
      Quote: Banshee
      How many apparently tears wiped out at night ...

      The point is not in tears and sleepless nights, but in the fact that there is an overwhelming majority of trolls in the VO who do not really care about communication, but it is important to catch up with excitement and abuse. And very often moderators stupidly do not cope with their duties, not cutting off such provocations in the bud.
      Here, the majority of members of the forum are not 18-year-old suckers, but mature adults who are also able to keep order on branches (even in such a way as cons) in order to upset trolls, boors, and just fools who litter the site with stupid ones, but by the hour provocative comments.
      1. figwam
        figwam 16 March 2018 18: 30
        +5
        If there is a plus, then there must be a minus.
        1. SOF
          SOF 16 March 2018 19: 23
          +2
          Quote: figvam
          If there is a plus, then there must be a minus.

          ... a Solomon saying!
          Plus, without a minus - it's some kind of stupid math.
          ... but ... Information about who pluses and minuses you is priceless and necessary, because otherwise cartel bacchanalia will begin.
          As in contact - he brought the “arrow”, and there a little list with avatars climbs out.
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 16 March 2018 19: 41
          +2
          Or maybe just grounding instead of a minus. Zero will remain. winked
          1. SOF
            SOF 16 March 2018 20: 12
            0
            Quote: siberalt
            Or maybe just grounding instead of a minus. Zero will remain. winked

            ... then the plus should be changed to phase ...
            ... otherwise, the "plus" should have a "minus" - it's like "yin" - "yang" ... laughing
            1. siberalt
              siberalt 16 March 2018 20: 27
              +3
              Plus, you can turn it upside down and call it phase. laughing I pressed the button - there is a phase.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 16 March 2018 22: 15
                +1
                Shandarakhnet is not a phase, but a phase difference. tongue
                1. Alexanast
                  Alexanast 17 March 2018 10: 31
                  +3
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Shandarakhnet is not a phase, but a phase difference.


                  Sergei hi
                  If it’s absolutely right, then what flows between the phases is shandarah. tongue
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 18 March 2018 12: 37
                    +2
                    Yes, yes, Sanya, you're certainly right. It is the one that flows there. Everyone uses it, but no one has seen. wink
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 16 March 2018 20: 37
              +5
              It's like in a joke.
              Two installers are sitting on a pole, a grandmother walks past.
              - Grandma, give me the wires!
              - Hold it, son.
              - I told you that zero, and you - phase, phase ..
          2. Alexanast
            Alexanast 17 March 2018 10: 27
            +3
            Quote: siberalt
            Or maybe just grounding instead of a minus.


            And this is already called grounding ... laughing
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 38
        +4
        Quote: OBEREG
        And very often the moderators stupidly fail in their duties without prisokaya such provocations in the bud.


        and how sometimes to distinguish a provocation from an opinion ..? without talking and not talking .. not well, I can write to the provocateurs everyone I disagree with ... but in part you are right more often than not we can’t cope because not all news and comments are tracked .. signal yourself more often .. hi
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          1. vorobey
            vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 47
            +5
            Quote: OBEREG
            And if you are simply incited to swear, insulted, or trivially banal, then there are no seven spans in your forehead to understand who you are dealing with


            It’s only after the second third comment in the debate that you understand .. wink
          2. Roman Skomorokhov
            16 March 2018 19: 13
            +2
            Quote: OBEREG
            The reaction of the modders is belated ... and when the modders start cleaning the branch from offensive comments, then normal people, who simply could not resist, fall under the distribution.


            Enough whining, you are our innocent. Have you been sent to ban with someone? Raise the case and put it on public display?
      3. Roman Skomorokhov
        16 March 2018 19: 11
        +1
        Quote: OBEREG
        And very often the moderators stupidly fail in their duties without prisokaya such provocations in the bud.


        Do you offer yourself something?
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      4. Conserp
        Conserp 16 March 2018 21: 20
        0
        Quote: OBEREG
        Here, the majority of members of the forum are not 18-year-old suckers, but mature adults who are also able to keep order on branches (even in such a way as cons) in order to upset trolls, boors, and just fools who litter the site with stupid ones, but by the hour provocative comments.

        In my experience, those who studied at school after Fursenko cannot put spaces in front of punctuation marks.

        The fact that the correct thought is expressed in this comment only increases the degree of irony.
      5. Tatyana
        Tatyana 19 March 2018 01: 13
        +1
        Quote: OBEREG

        Here, most members of the forum are not 18 suckers, but mature adults who are also able to keep order on branches (even in such a way as cons) in order to upset trolls, boors, and just fools who litter the site with stupid ones, but by the hour provocative comments.

        Interesting. Track how? If the troll didn’t make a mark on its page on the page, but to all in a row - out of a sense of its own malice - put the cons!

        The fact is that the troll may not leave a single comment on a particular page of the site at all, that you won’t know that he was here at all. But at the same time, he can all roll just like that out of a feeling of gloating minus. As it used to be more than once.
        So you will sit and think, which of the users noted by your comments is your hidden enemy. This is also a form of trollism.
    4. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 16 March 2018 18: 16
      +10
      Quote: Banshee
      How many over the past year there have been cries on the theme “Return the minuses !!!” ... How many, apparently, tears were wiped out at night ... Well, everything is now in your hands)))

      I personally will still have minuses or not. So I voted.
      It bothers me more that they will shit stealthily, out of harm, well, or for the Israeli flag. It would be fair, for example, if you probably put a minus to write an argument or a minus does not count ...
      If the task of the administration is simply to raise the "heat of the slaughter" then it will come down and minus anonymously.
      1. ZHIGAN
        ZHIGAN 16 March 2018 18: 37
        +5
        For the Israeli flag, okay! They present me with the flag of the USA or Great Britain! Although I am writing from the Chelyabinsk region! I don’t know how to deal with it request but would pick up the cons, just because of this ... stop
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 40
          +5
          Quote: GIGAN
          For the Israeli flag, okay! They present me with the flag of the USA or Great Britain! Although I am writing from the Chelyabinsk region! I don’t know how to deal with it request but would pick up the cons, just because of this ... stop


          Nonsense is complete .. only for one flag they don’t beat here ...
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            2. helmi8
              helmi8 16 March 2018 20: 29
              +1
              Quote: GIGAN
              argue when there is nothing, cling to the flag .. Something like this.

              Dear, you were indignant above that someone on the Russian site has a nickname in Latin. In your opinion this is not good. Counter-question - is a normal star-striped flag from a Russian from Chelyabinsk? Double standarts? what
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 16 March 2018 22: 24
                +2
                Yes, these are not standards, but an enemy server. It happens.
            3. St Petrov
              St Petrov 16 March 2018 21: 12
              +2
              argue when there is nothing, cling to the flag


              tell me, american, when did I cling to your flag? angry

              laughing

            4. Svarog51
              Svarog51 16 March 2018 22: 22
              +1
              Egor, yes, change it already. Go through the avatar at the top of the profile and click changes. There is such a function.
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 16 March 2018 22: 30
                +3
                Egor, yes, change it already. Go through the avatar at the top of the profile and click changes. There is such a function.


                You know how to break wassat I liked to look at his torment and excuses that he was from Chelyabinsk, and not an American spy.

                It is already necessary to remove the clown from his avatar. Once took up a man laughing
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 17 March 2018 02: 01
                  +1
                  Once took up a person

                  Here is still not enough. Let him work on himself. Nanny will not work out of me, after the second warning - as on the avatar of Sani Sparrow. You can’t even make me a moderator, I’m afraid that I’m not restrained. recourse
          3. Tatanka Yotanka
            Tatanka Yotanka 16 March 2018 18: 57
            +6
            Quote: vorobey
            Nonsense is complete .. only for one flag they don’t beat here ...

            but present fellow
            Quote: Andrey K
            For me personally - a mattress instead of a flag, a distinctive feature of the possessed and sodomites.
          4. dauria
            dauria 16 March 2018 18: 59
            +4
            Nonsense is complete .. only for one flag they don’t beat here ...


            laughing “Professor” once defended “merkavu”. As a result, he rolled down from the colonels to the captain in only one article. Noble was "beating not for the flag at all wassat ". Moderators, you’ll try to prevent this from happening again. The first time you will need manual control, then everything will" settle down. "I think the quality of the site will improve as a whole with the return of minuses.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 19: 02
              +3
              Quote: dauria
              “Professor” once defended “merkavu”. As a result, he rolled down from the colonels to the captain in only one article.

              I agree. Sokolov - the first at sight ...
            2. Andrey K
              Andrey K 16 March 2018 23: 22
              +9
              Quote: dauria
              ... laughing “Professor” once defended “merkavu”. As a result, he rolled down from the colonels to the captain in only one article. Noble was "beating not for the flag at all wassat ". Moderators, you’ll try to prevent this from happening again. The first time you will need manual control, then everything will" settle down. "I think the quality of the site will improve as a whole with the return of minuses ...

              Alexey, I definitely have nothing to do with it. "Professor" because of the chariot grappled with me in a snot, and then we proved something to each other. Here I am, I remember exactly - as in the evening, the Israeli comrades sat down at the computer and I left in the minus. It was so.
              Minuses are still needed. My rationale is that if I argued with the same "Professor", he at least wrote something, operated on some things. Now on the site, as snowdrops have popped floods. It seems that they do not break the rules, but with a monosyllabic lowing, the whole branch is drowned in verbal dung.
          5. seos
            seos 16 March 2018 20: 50
            +6
            They beat for the truth .... and it hurts ... a couple of people who put pluses in the subject, and 50 brainless urapatriots minus ...
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      2. Roman Skomorokhov
        16 March 2018 19: 42
        0
        Quote: Barkhan
        I am more embarrassed that they will be shitting on the sly, out of harm, well, or for the Israeli flag.


        We are not confused. Moreover, it is this moment that worried the most. Everything will be fine in this regard, the exit was invented. And for lovers of what you are worried about it will not be just a SURPRISE.
    5. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 18: 40
      +6
      Quote: Banshee
      How many over the past year there have been screams on the topic "Return the cons !!!".

      Voted "I do not care."
      But.
      The past year showed that the absence of minuses contributed to a decrease in intensity both in the comments (thanks to the admins) and a decrease in negative feedback. The site became somehow calmer ...
      hi
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 46
        +10
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The site became somehow calmer ...


        it became boring .. no gypsies, no bears .. no vodka to drink .. request
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 18: 46
          +5
          Quote: vorobey
          it became boring .. no gypsies, no bears .. no vodka to drink ..

          Yes ... And Sasha Romanov therefore left for Syria ...
          laughing
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 16 March 2018 19: 34
            +5
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Yes ... And Sasha Romanov therefore left for Syria ...


            what .Seriously? He seems to me recently unsubscribed ..
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 19: 52
              +5
              Quote: vorobey
              what .Seriously? He seems to me recently unsubscribed ..

              As I was recently told by the "lady of the heart" after "scammers," "So big, but you believe in fairy tales ..."
              wassat
              He was recently on the site. Flying over the VO, talked. Are you a couple, shtol, shy away on business trips?
              recourse
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        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 18: 59
          +4
          Quote: OBEREG
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          The site became somehow calmer ...
          Because the real specialists with VO go away and there are only cheers, patriots, youth who do not know which side to approach the machine, experts tank of the word and trolls with fools, and there are a handful of people who are seriously interested in military matters, or are active military with real knowledge.

          Come on .... Well, it doesn’t fit in any way ...
          I was still “green” when I saw comments from “specialists” like “boring, uninteresting, because I’m leaving.”
          We still have such "mammoths" on our site that Tokma is surprised at their "longevity" and patience.
          And the last of the departed special "Nexus" - he didn’t leave himself ....
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    6. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 16 March 2018 18: 47
      +5
      I am for the return of the minuses, but it is desirable that it is clear who set it.
      I, as an ordinary, declare that epaulettes are not important, this conclusion was made during the service.
      An unexpected check came, they gathered all the sergeants and drew the situation verbally, we are waiting for your analysis and the orders were said by the major. All the sergeants began to fuck-back who the company said at least someone would leave, do not disgrace.
      I went out and gave the order, gave landmarks and so on and so forth, the first months of the service went on. My grandfathers didn’t like it, they started spreading rot and said they wanted the sergeant? Three times after that, he pointedly refused to go to sergeant school for his service life. This is an example that epaulets are not important.
      But the minuses are needed, I’m not going to spread rotations anonymously, let everyone see that I put a minus.
      But explaining to Mikhan that he is Mikhan is very difficult in places. It’s easier to put a Minus, for example, in cases of insults, it facilitates the work of the moderators. But one blurt out, the second one supports arguing with them neither nerves nor sense. Like someone offended and walking with a plus sign, also not right.
      1. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 16 March 2018 19: 27
        +2
        I agree, with such comrades as Mikhan is not easy, he always goes on the attack ... But where did he go?
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 16 March 2018 19: 35
          +2
          Mikhan is not the most harmful in comparison with some individuals. Mikhan is simply the most popular)) therefore he is designated, likes to wave his sword. But even he often admits his passion for slogans. But there are such instances who believe in their rightness, and at the same time make such a game. And to argue for the sake of argument I’m not interested to be honest. I’m not enough for a long time, I like to read more.
          1. AUL
            AUL 16 March 2018 19: 49
            +2
            Quote: Lek3338
            Mikhan is not the most harmful in comparison with some individuals. Mikhan is simply the most popular)) therefore he is designated, likes to wave his sword. But even he often admits his passion for slogans. But there are such instances who believe in their rightness, and at the same time make such a game. And to argue for the sake of argument I’m not interested to be honest. I’m not enough for a long time, I like to read more.

            Therefore, I ask you to return the black list. Mians are sick of it! Heh heh heh ...
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 16 March 2018 21: 18
              +5
              Therefore, I ask you to return the black list. Mians are sick of it! Heh heh heh ...


              Meehan and I will have our own list. and ammo I will give him if he runs out soldier

              Meehan annoys them. And nagging annoys me. In every topic at all. How long to. I constantly read about Rotenberg, although there are no articles dedicated to him here.

              Corruption experts. Hobbies count schemes or what? Unfulfilled dream of becoming an investigator? Playing the prosecutor and judge on the forum? Fetish suck scandals and investigations?

              In general, I will collect my dossier with Mikhan here. We will be tearful to give handkerchiefs, send by mail
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 16 March 2018 23: 53
                +4
                I will support you. Especially Stas157. The article is not about politics - he has a red thread in his comments - Putininovat.
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              2. Svarog51
                Svarog51 21 March 2018 13: 54
                0
                In general, I will collect my dossier with Mikhan here. We will be tearful to give handkerchiefs, send by mail
                good
                You will organize as an LLC - discard the settlement one, although I live on retirement, I’ll be a little “toss” on a holy cause, I’ll also take part. Especially for my "double" I’ll clap in front of you - he’s out of the queue. lol
          2. SOF
            SOF 16 March 2018 20: 18
            +1
            Quote: Lek3338
            .And to argue for the sake of argument I’m not interested to be honest. I’m not enough for a long time, I like to read more

            ... fully support ...
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 16 March 2018 18: 55
      +6
      To give justice to virtual public space is not democracy, but anarchy, dear! winked
      Talk about the authors. The authors also have a rating and marks for evaluation. The fact that the author has worked and posted his little thought about ... the forum deserves respect. But to minus the author is categorically savagery. And, if the administration decides to return to each "ax" to chop without explanation, then at least the authors need to be freed from such cuttings.
      Regards, Oleg. hi
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 16 March 2018 19: 46
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        To give justice to virtual public space is not democracy, but anarchy, dear!

        "When society has no color differentiation of pants, then there is no purpose ..."
        "How do you know who should make ku to whom many times ...?" --- "Kin-dza-dza"
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 16 March 2018 20: 36
          +3
          In virtual space, pants are somehow useless. There is simply no one to put on. But just for the "ku" place more than enough. laughing Here I agree with you.
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 16 March 2018 23: 10
            +4
            Quote: siberalt
            In virtual space, pants are somehow useless.

            To some extent, the role of colored trousers is played by epaulettes, ranks ... soon the slaughter will begin ... Just have time to pull the corpses away and give cartridges. Only give topics pro-Sumerian and once a week about Israel ... Well, at least the elections will be held by then.
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  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 16 March 2018 17: 57
    +10
    So it was instituted that the “black-headed” commentators were significantly limited in their freedom of expression in the quantitative moment.

    Well, you don’t need to limit it, of course, but leaving minuses so that people could express their opinion in my opinion would not be bad. Well, that is, let him write something there, I did not like it, I said (put a minus) and, in principle, yes, let him continue to write, but he will know the attitude towards him.
    1. vadsonen
      vadsonen 16 March 2018 18: 11
      +5
      Both cons and, in fact, pluses affect the perception of the commentary. And if so, then this is an instrument of influence on public opinion.
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 16 March 2018 18: 16
        +5
        Both minuses and, in fact, pluses affect the perception of the comment

        This is clear. But we are conducting a discussion, arguing about something, we are talking, and these pros and cons are needed, as it were, as facial expressions in a conversation, in order to at least roughly understand what a person thought about your phrase.
        I’m not at all averse to the minuses in my address, if this is someone’s subjective opinion, then I will be interested and answer - but where am I wrong and will learn something new .....
        So this should work. And not stupidly hatering.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 44
          +8
          Quote: DEZINTO
          I’m not at all averse to the minuses in my address, if this is someone’s subjective opinion, then I will be interested and answer - but where am I wrong and will learn something new .....
          So this should work. And not stupidly hatering.


          I absolutely agree with you .. You have long been in the topic and also know my attitude to minuses and ratings .. and we must remember how many minuses for my position I sometimes snagged .. but we argued I defended my own and, in general, the nature of relations with forum users not affected
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 17 March 2018 16: 13
          0
          Quote: DEZINTO
          But we are conducting a discussion, we are arguing about something, we are talking, and these pros and cons are, as it were, needed facial expressions in conversation, to at least roughly understand what a person thought about your phrase.

          Are there really few words in the opponent’s comment to understand? What is the need to add another minus? request
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 16 March 2018 18: 13
      +6
      Teresa May also knows the attitude towards her, however this does not prevent her from continuing to shit .. repeat

      Petro poproshenko also knows .. however, this does not bother him ... we’ll isolate the trolls .. we can’t shoot .. re-write ... it’s unrealistic laughing

      ohrenet .. I'm already a marshal .. laughing
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 16 March 2018 19: 00
        +2
        Congratulations on your well-deserved title for many years of service on the forum. good drinks
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 16 March 2018 19: 17
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          Congratulations on your well-deserved title for many years of service on the forum. good drinks


          Pay extra for the stars .. laughing laughing
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 16 March 2018 19: 53
            +3
            Instead of a bayonet shovel, they are handed a shovel ....
            lol
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 16 March 2018 20: 07
              +3
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Instead of a bayonet shovel, they are handed a shovel ...


              any bayonet shovel takes on its shovel shape ... after close contact with the workpiece laughing laughing
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 16 March 2018 18: 58
      +2
      Opinion is expressed in words, not hands. Although in some cases the second comes best, but not in the virtual world.
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  5. Piramidon
    Piramidon 16 March 2018 18: 00
    +17
    If this is possible, it would be nice to give the opportunity to “minus” not just by bluntly pressing a button, but only complete with specific claims to the opponent. That is, if you have something to present - write and you can "minus". But in general, I am for the return of such a button.
  6. keeper03
    keeper03 16 March 2018 18: 00
    +9
    As an option, it can return the minuses, but limit them in an amount, for example, no more than 10 minuses per day per account or make a dynamic calculation of the number of minuses per user, depending on its activity. Otherwise, we just step on the old rake! hi
    1. Flyer_64
      Flyer_64 16 March 2018 18: 13
      +1
      there is still an additional option, scored a limit of minuses lost a star on the chase. like in the army, demotion.
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 16 March 2018 18: 32
        +3
        Quote: Letun_64
        there is still an additional option, scored a limit of minuses lost a star on the chase. like in the army, demotion.

        Well, it was so
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2018 18: 37
        +4
        it was, and after the skull on the shoulder straps appeared
  7. weksha50
    weksha50 16 March 2018 18: 01
    +11
    It would be necessary to return the minuses ... Too sometimes odious monsters with their statements appear ... By the way, the number of them increased precisely after the cancellation of the minuses ...
    However, I’m afraid that again with this return of minuses it will turn out in Chernomyrdinsky: “We wanted the best, but it turned out - as always” ... Again there will be unreasonable attacks and bans on sensible, but a few dissenting people who have their own point of view .. .
    So it turns out something with a comma in the "you can not have mercy" ... hi
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 16 March 2018 18: 05
      +8
      hi
      Here I am about the same thing, let there be minuses even before turning blue and not ban, but just let us lie in the minuses and with our opinion and all that, of course, we will listen, read, and another minus, and it will just be clear who is who.
      I am not against the opinions of others, everyone has the right to it. Just sometimes I want to say that I do not agree. Here are the disadvantages for this.
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 16 March 2018 20: 42
        +6
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Here I am about the same thing, let there be minuses even before turning blue and not ban, but just let us lie in the minuses and with our opinion and all that, of course, we will listen, read, and another minus, and it will just be clear who is who.

        It's right. A negative rating is also needed. And banning for a minus is somehow not comme il faut ... For rudeness, insults, etc. etc. - it is right. And if a person scored a bunch of minuses for his position on some issue - this is completely different.
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 17 March 2018 16: 17
        +1
        Quote: DEZINTO
        . I just sometimes feel like say I do not agree. Here for this and Cons request .

        And for what, interestingly, do WORDS exist?
    2. albert
      albert 16 March 2018 20: 07
      +2
      You can try to do this, when you receive a certain number of minuses, the comment "closes", and if you want to read it, click on it specially. You can also enter a limit on the number of pluses and minuses to the comment.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 19 March 2018 01: 45
        +1
        Quote: albert
        You can try to do this, when you receive a certain number of minuses, the comment "closes", and if you want to read it, click on it specially. Also, you can enter a limit on the number of pluses and minuses to the comment.

        This is a half measure in which the whole point of introducing minuses is lost.
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 16 March 2018 18: 03
    +8
    Although someone will begin to celebrate "settle accounts" with objectionable, stupidly minus each of their comments! But still, the minuses are needed, as an educational measure, as the same tub of cold water, because many people who comment on a smart comment and not an article who comes to the site interfere with other people's comments for the sake of goodies, and many comments simply lose their meaning because they are torn by utterances out of place and out of topic.
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    2. BAI
      BAI 16 March 2018 20: 29
      +6
      However, it should be noted that in some cases the discussion is more interesting and qualified than the article itself.
  9. CHARM
    CHARM 16 March 2018 18: 05
    +6
    It was high time to return the cons. One-sided somehow it turns out. You can either plus a comment or stupidly pass by. But then again, just silently putting cons is also not a thing. If you do not agree with the point of view of the person to whom you put a minus, explain why, and not stupidly, like throwing a troll and "lowering" those who are objectionable to the troll.
  10. svp67
    svp67 16 March 2018 18: 05
    +8
    Everything on the Maidan: on the return of the "cons"
    and canceling the pros
    we will talk!
  11. bogart047
    bogart047 16 March 2018 18: 06
    +9
    that yes, just like in Ukraine - he said something against the "saint", they immediately blame the rating. It’s good that the “peacekeeper” doesn’t contribute to the site. Phew, to be honest ...
  12. major071
    major071 16 March 2018 18: 06
    +14
    May everyone be rewarded according to his speeches! wink
    Let it be, remember the old funny times: good
    But a person convicted of unreasonable "minus", especially against the background of personal dislike (and there are such people on the site), will simply go to the ban. hi
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      16 March 2018 19: 20
      +1
      Quote: major071
      But a person convicted of unreasonable "minus", especially against the background of personal dislike (and there are such people on the site), will simply go to the ban.


      And quickly and for a long time. On behalf of and on behalf of the guarantee.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 16 March 2018 22: 09
        +4
        I already decided not to put the cons. It seems to have pleased, I think, well, hold on to Stasyamba, Gardamir and others - and the soldiers. There is one more point according to which in a minus they can also wipe the site sad

        As always. There is no room for the flight of the soul. But this move - when beckoning and as always a cookie on the exhaust - you seem to have conspired with life. Angry you admins

        The hand will now tremble, before each mouse click over the minus under the American barking at our Moscow region. I will think that the latter, but press. In war as in war.

        We will partisan and drive Svidomo into digital boilers! Because the people need it, because the Nazis go to the site and the people sense them.


    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 16 March 2018 21: 39
      +6
      and if a person, in principle, from my point of view, writes game (yes, even if I write nonsense in someone’s opinion) and you have explained to him a long time ago how you fundamentally disagree with his point of view. - still adhere to some kind of behavior.

      He will not write in one topic - power on the pitchfork - and in another - to sing power to an ode.

      And personal dislike she did not appear out of thin air. And because of the different positions that appear from comment to comment.

      So you see him - you see another nonsense - so what - to write the same thing again? just put a minus and flip further - and not because you are a bad person and not because you can not argue the assessment of a particular character comment. You just did it a long time ago.

      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        16 March 2018 22: 16
        0
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        So you see him - you see another nonsense - so what - to write the same thing again? just put a minus and flip further - and not because you are a bad person and not because you can not argue the assessment of a particular character comment. You just did it a long time ago.


        Reasonable approach.
    3. Alexanast
      Alexanast 17 March 2018 10: 50
      +3
      May everyone be rewarded according to his speeches! 


      Vladimir hi
      Have you stopped writing (poetry)?
      I've been collecting your essays on a complete collection.
      I hope you do not mind.?
      1. major071
        major071 17 March 2018 12: 49
        +9
        Alexander! hi
        Of course, do not mind, collect on health! drinks
        I didn’t stop writing, just sometimes I don’t have time, and sometimes I have time for writing. And sometimes this and that is, but the muse, bastard, does not come! laughing
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 21 March 2018 14: 07
          0
          Vladimir hi I also like your creativity. good
          And sometimes this and that is, but the muse, bastard, does not come! laughing

          And how to stimulate it? So that there wasn’t such: “The muse visited me today, sat a little, sat and left!”
  13. Blue fox
    Blue fox 16 March 2018 18: 08
    +6
    The "old" cons helped punish the unwanted, to the point and there is nothing to hide, but damn great help to separate the grains from the chaff among the comments that were written competently and reasoned, in contrast to the multi-letter spreading of thoughts on a tree from thoughtless copy-paste, sources OBS, idiots or rabid Russophobia.
    Cons to be!
  14. Lekov L
    Lekov L 16 March 2018 18: 08
    +8
    I would add a list to the minuses - a sign that shows who put what.
    In my opinion myrten such is present.
    Kondovy "interpersonal analysis" is thus partly transferred to the "lichku", naturally with respect for perfect respect for the opponent, this scandal does not concern anyone from a disinterested community, does not lead colleagues away from the topic.
    Something like this .. maybe not right, but if the opinion was asked why not to express.
    Best regards hi and the more administration wink
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 16 March 2018 19: 49
      +5
      Quote: Lekov L
      I would add a list to the minuses - a sign that shows who put what.

      Then the vendetta will begin.
      1. Lekov L
        Lekov L 16 March 2018 20: 29
        +2
        I still hope for the civilization of opponents, although I was about to leave the site fifteen times already. Topics analyst, weapons and history hold.
        As well as a list of literate authors who are still here.
        Sincerely, colleague soldier
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          16 March 2018 22: 18
          +1
          Quote: Barkhan
          Then the vendetta will begin.


          Vendetta will not start, because there will be no reason for it, but there may be investigations from the administration.

          Quote: Lekov L
          list of literate authors who are here.


          More optimism. "While here" ... Do not worry, do not scatter.
  15. mathkiller
    mathkiller 16 March 2018 18: 09
    +7
    Cons definitely needed. It used to be convenient to watch comments and visually pay attention to those that have gained a lot of advantages, as well as immediately see those that are heavily mined. Thus, it was possible to immediately get an idea of ​​the opinion of people about any comment. And on the topic of what kind of comments, which had many minuses before they banned - I did not even know. This is probably not worth doing. Can the maximum make the font fade with an increase in the number of minuses?
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 16 March 2018 19: 55
      +4
      "you could immediately get an idea ..."
      "And I'm for those who win," so it turns out? winked
      But somehow it's better to think with your head. A common thing, over time, everything comes.
  16. PSACI
    PSACI 16 March 2018 18: 09
    +4
    Cons is the right thing .. This is an opinion about a particular forum member and his statements! But there is one nuance to prevent bullying, but here it’s more difficult. Minus or plus should be resolved precisely under an article on the site, and not in the profile, and be monitored so that there are "minus" and "pluses" There are lovers on all sites .. hi And also to make it visible who + or - set! And I will be ALL happiness I consider.
  17. Machete
    Machete 16 March 2018 18: 10
    +2