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Thoughts of the unthinkable in the Pentagon

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The bluster of American generals about the ability of the United States to destroy Russia looks like an invitation to hell for America itself


Thoughts of the unthinkable in the Pentagon


Some public statements of Pentagon military leaders fit the epigraph to an immortal phrase from the equally imperishable Soviet comedy film: “When you say, Ivan Vasilyevich, the impression is that you are delirious!”.

For example, as the head of the Strategic Command of the US Armed Forces, General John Heithen responded to the message of Russian President Vladimir Putin to the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation. He suddenly took it and, with all the directness of the general, declared that the United States could respond to any attack from Russia.

"We are ready for all the existing threats, and no one should doubt this ... By the way, they do not know where our submarines are, and they are able to destroy their country if we follow this path."


And then one of two things. Either this John Heiten really does not understand what is being said, or he deliberately misleads the gullible congressmen, and at the same time the entire American people.

Both are equally bad, because in any case, someone will be in dangerous illusions - either the whole nation or its generals.

After all, no one questioned the ability of American submarines to launch a nuclear missile strike on Russia. And over the past half century, nothing has changed in this fact.

And Putin in his message spoke of a completely different one. Or rather, that the chances of the United States themselves to go unpunished while delivering such a blow confidently tend to zero, in view of the emergence of a fundamentally new, practically unkillable strategic weapons.

It is the restoration of these Russian innovations to the full extent of the fatal vulnerability of the US territory, which Washington has strained to cover with an impenetrable antimissile umbrella, and is the main “message” that Russia wants to bring to the attention of the United States.

I think that in fact the American generals are well aware of what exactly they are talking about. And they “turn on the fool” only because they don’t like to admit that the Russians again “kicked their ass”. And that in the global military-strategic situation, extremely unpleasant changes are occurring for them. And so they continue to talk about their elusive submarines, which, they say, will easily destroy these intolerable Russians.

But they will not destroy! Because in this case, America itself will surely turn into a huge nuclear mushroom. And such a "perdimonokl" for cheerful Yankees, who are accustomed to treasure their own skin, does not fit. They only like when other cities are burning with a clear flame, but not their own.

And, therefore, the price of the current general bragging about the ability of the United States to destroy Russia is zero points and as many tenths. This will not happen just because the main American trump card is the future and seemingly so close strategic invulnerability of America ordered to live long before it was born.

Well, absolutely already in the order of “alaverdy”, I must say the following. I would have thought very well in the place of the Americans before throwing such statements at all. The fact is that even if one voices thoughts about the unthinkable, that is, about the exchange of nuclear strikes between the Russian Federation and the United States, then in this case, the Americans are definitely not jealous. Firstly, their country is approximately two times smaller in area than the Russian Federation, with twice the population. That, with comparable power and the number of nuclear strikes, means that the damage to the United States will be inflicted in 4 times more than the Russian Federation.

In addition, state-of-the-art Russian nuclear-missile attack weapons have learned, as officially announced by Vladimir Putin, to bypass or overcome the barriers of the US missile defense. What can not be said about the current representatives of the US nuclear missile triad. Which, in terms of its technology, was stuck somewhere in the 70s of the last century and is capable only of the most primitive attacks of ballistic trajectories from well-known directions.

Meanwhile, the Russian missile defense also does not “graze the rear”. And in those decades, while the American rocket men were sleeping peacefully, it went quite far forward. What they say, for example, is quite successful trials of new modifications of Russian strategic antimissile systems. Which may well be able to present to the American "Minutemen" and "Tridents" very unpleasant surprises. In the sense that many of their warheads can be shot down long before approaching designated targets.

And this is not to mention the rapid development in Russia of unparalleled mobile air defense systems in the world, which, in their high modifications (C-500 level), can become an essential weight when repelling a rocket attack through outer space.

And this is despite the fact that yesterday’s American missile defense system is fatally, in a short time, it will not be included in the test at all. Thus, it may well turn out that the allegedly compelling nuclear missile strike on the Russian Federation, which is praised by American generals, will be significantly weakened, while defenseless America will receive a fully-fledged Russian otvetku. And this, in combination with the above-mentioned difference in the size of the territories of the two countries, in the density of their population, as well as adding to the complexity and vulnerability of the infrastructure, which in the American case is several times higher, can lead to a very regrettable outcome for the Washington strategists blows. Of course, both sides will have to be tight, but the United States, unlike the giant and sparsely populated Russian Federation, has no chance at all to survive.

Given all this, the cheap bravado of the American strategic general looks not only irrelevant, but frankly stupid. In fact, he urges Americans to be proud of the fact that in the event of a nuclear attack on Russia, they are exactly and all in a crowd go to the next world.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 March 2018 06: 38
    +7
    The bluster of American generals about the ability of the United States to destroy Russia looks like an invitation to hell for America itself
    and this, against the background of how Eun dipped their faces in the toilet ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 12 March 2018 06: 46
      +2
      Andrei Yurievich Today, 06:38
      ... Eun, in the course of a little hurry with the diplomatic mission, he would have to bargain with trump ... And it looks like Eun went back down ...
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 12 March 2018 09: 09
      +2
      From what GDP issued in his "message" Petagon in a trance! And, even the most ardent hawk McCain lowered his shabby wings. To fully realize that the United States is already in full duplicate, they will need some more time. Europe seems to realize this much faster. In the meantime, before negotiations with Putin, let Trump "train" in North Korean Eun. lol
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 March 2018 06: 44
    +1
    And then one of two things. Either this John Heiten really does not understand what is being said, or he deliberately misleads the gullible congressmen, and at the same time the entire American people.

    The country is not frightened idiots (I hope the site’s administration doesn’t cut it, in the end there is a work ""), or do these generals think that they will manage to dump it? But where? angry
  3. Bastinda
    Bastinda 12 March 2018 07: 05
    +5
    "On foreign territory, and with little blood! We are ready!"
    First Syria (Spain) now such statements. Some unpleasant deja vu ...
    1. Wilderness
      Wilderness 12 March 2018 11: 22
      +4
      And history generally likes to run in a circle (a person doesn’t change). If we compare the pre-war years and the current time, there will be even more of these coincidences (the conflict in Ukraine / the Finnish war, as a result of sanctions / expulsion from the league of nations, the annexation of Crimea / the annexation of the western regions, trade with the Nazis / strange dances with "... our Western partners "(white slippers and a self-propelled wooden box for them all), a feverish rearmament then and now (as if they were sleeping, sleeping and suddenly realized that they would beat us tomorrow). I won’t be surprised if Mongolia / Primorye or North Korea coincides. And also this hysteria with the agents of the State Department))) / enemies of the people.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 March 2018 07: 30
    +1
    the cheap bravado of an American strategic general looks not only inappropriate, but also frankly stupid
    And what remains to say to American generals when there is a creak in the head from the stirring of "thoughts" - what to do and who is to blame. Their generals before the statement of GDP did not differ in correctness and great intelligence.
  5. rkkasa xnumx
    rkkasa xnumx 12 March 2018 07: 54
    +7
    if you voice thoughts about the unthinkable, that is, about the exchange of nuclear strikes between the Russian Federation and the United States, then in this case too, the Americans are not envious. Firstly, their country is approximately two times smaller in area than the Russian Federation, with twice as much population. What, with comparable power and the number of nuclear strikes, it means that the United States will suffer 4 times more damage than the Russian Federation

    Everything is exactly the opposite, with an equal exchange of blows, we will have worse.
    Russia is really larger than the USA, but their population is distributed more evenly, while ours is mainly concentrated in the region of Moscow, St. Petersburg, and the south of Russia.
    Plus, in the United States a significant number of citizens live in low-rise areas, with us mainly in high-rise buildings.
    Plus, we have a much harsher winter, and a malfunction of the heating system will lead to more serious consequences.
    1. Himdym
      Himdym 12 March 2018 10: 51
      +2
      partly agree with you, but to measure who has the best tryndets, I don’t know, in both cases the damage will be unacceptable. Nevertheless, in the United States, the main industrial centers are located in the northeastern region from Chicago to Boston, along the Atlantic coast and along the Gulf of Mexico, thus the economy is more vulnerable, in the Russian Federation, industry is dispersed along the Trans-Siberian Railway, the main danger in my opinion represents the concentration of agricultural land in the Black Earth region and in the southwest.
      in the event of a failure of the power system (which, due to integration into a single network) is vulnerable mainly in terms of transportation and distribution, recovery will not require beyond-the-limits resources.
      1. rkkasa xnumx
        rkkasa xnumx 12 March 2018 14: 50
        +1
        Quote: Himdym
        in the Russian Federation, industry is dispersed along the Trans-Siberian Railway

        1. Himdym
          Himdym 13 March 2018 06: 24
          0
          Probably, it is worth going through strategically important industries, abandoning the production of consumer goods, and so the largest refineries - Volgograd, Kstovo, Perm, Omsk, Komsomolsk on the Amur - well, a considerable distance, however, there is even less in Kapotnya, Kirishi, Ukhta, Tuapse, Khabarovsk (sorry if I forgot someone). Petrochemicals: Stavropol, Perm, Tobolsk, Angarsk, Achinsk. Metallurgy: Cherepovets, Chelyabinsk, Lipetsk, Krasnoyarsk, Bratsk.
          This is what I remembered without an Internet, you can still google engineering. In any case, the risks of the complete destruction of any of these industries are quite low, here again the constraining factor is logistics, that is, the priority goal is not the factories as such, but the transport infrastructure, try to transfer tanks from Tagil to the western theater without a railroad.
          1. stan200000
            stan200000 13 March 2018 21: 41
            0
            Well, it’s necessary to “smoke” and engage in nonsense. The meaning of describing all industries. It is enough to place 10-15 submarine drones on both coasts of the USA with the corresponding filling and nuclear tsunamis will destroy a good half of their population with all the infrastructure.
    2. Winnie76
      Winnie76 12 March 2018 15: 10
      0
      Quote: rkkasa 81
      Russia is really larger than the USA, but their population is distributed more evenly, while ours is mainly concentrated in the region of Moscow, St. Petersburg, and the south of Russia.

      What about Status 6? How many percent are there in the coastal zone?
  6. Yujiko
    Yujiko 12 March 2018 08: 41
    +1
    Stormy, prolonged applause, everyone stands up, approving cries from the audience are heard.
  7. Micfoster
    Micfoster 12 March 2018 09: 02
    +2
    Quote: rkkasa 81

    Plus, we have a much harsher winter, and a malfunction of the heating system will lead to more serious consequences.

    And we already passed it. And still here!
    1. Himdym
      Himdym 12 March 2018 11: 02
      +2
      A 1-room apartment in a brick house (not Khrushchev) with minus 15 overboard stands in 8 hours at 10 degrees.
      In the panel treshka with double-glazed windows at the same (plus or minus) temperature for 2 hours, there is simply no reduction.
      in both cases, the simplest option is to combine 2-3 apartments and maintain the house in a positive temperature, even from a potbelly stove, even from a fan heater with a diesel generator.
      and this ability is our strength and difference from Western culture.
      1. rkkasa xnumx
        rkkasa xnumx 12 March 2018 11: 28
        +2
        Quote: Himdym
        unite for 2-3 apartments and maintain the house in a positive temperature even from a potbelly stove, even from a fan heater with a diesel generator

        It is simply unrealistic to heat 2-3 apartments with one potbelly stove. The most plausible option is for the whole family to stray into one room in which there will be a potbelly stove.
        Quote: Himdym
        and in this ability our strength and difference from Western culture

        I think that the Americans are also capable of making potbelly stoves and diesel generators. If necessary. But the fact of the matter is that they may not need it, but for us, if the exchange of blows takes place in the winter, in any case we will have to fight the cold.
        1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
          Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 12 March 2018 21: 02
          +1
          We have the whole story once a year, winter comes, but after sure summer. All the newcomers have taken advantage of it freely, and therefore they still find their remains in very good condition. But Russia still meets and sees off the winter.
        2. stan200000
          stan200000 13 March 2018 21: 47
          0
          Judging by what Putin said the difference in "class", as they say, is obvious. Clowns with antediluvian rockets will not even have time to blather, as their entire continent will safely sink into oblivion. I personally from all "Daggers", "Vanguards", etc. most liked underwater drones. This is a kapets, which you learn about when he has already arrived. After New York and Washington are erased, the war will end immediately. The Yankees are cowards, they never knew how to fight without sparing themselves.
    2. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 12 March 2018 11: 15
      +2
      Quote: Micfoster
      And we already passed it

      What went through? The atomic bombing?
      Quote: Micfoster
      Why?

      Because look at the map, look at the distribution of the population.
      Quote: Altona
      Our blows will bring them more tsunamis and tornadoes of every kind

      Whether these tsunamis are possible or not, my grandmother said in two.
      Quote: Micfoster
      given their ability to panic

      I do not think that our ability to panic is worse than American.
      Quote: Micfoster
      They are generally stupid to the extreme, if they allow the possibility of thermonuclear war.

      But we admit? Or are we too stupid to the extreme?
      In my opinion, if there is any weapon, then to predict its use is not a sign of stupidity.
      1. Micfoster
        Micfoster 12 March 2018 11: 38
        +2
        My ancestors in the besieged Leningrad underwent bombing and lack of heating. They survived and others survive. Not all the population will be at the epicenter.
  8. Altona
    Altona 12 March 2018 09: 54
    +3
    Quote: rkkasa 81
    Russia is really larger than the USA, but their population is distributed more evenly, while ours is mainly concentrated in the region of Moscow, St. Petersburg, and the south of Russia.

    ------------------------------------
    Why? The US population is located along the East and West coast. Our blows will bring them more tsunamis and tornadoes of all kinds. But we are simply threatened by a radioactive infection, but even that is not total. The United States expects no less cataclysms, and given their ability to panic, something as fatal as the New Orleans flood.
    PS They are generally stupid to the extreme, if they allow the possibility of thermonuclear war. Their thresholds of sensitivity are greatly reduced before the thirst for profit.
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 12 March 2018 11: 08
      +2

      Here is a picture of the US population density.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 12 March 2018 11: 11
        +4

        Here is a picture of Russia's population density.
        1. iouris
          iouris 12 March 2018 12: 33
          +1
          This picture should be shown to “experts” more often.
          1. flicker
            flicker 12 March 2018 22: 49
            +1
            This picture should be shown to “experts” more often.
            Well, yes, it shows that if they hit us, they will suffer: Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Mongolia, North Korea.
            If we hit the geldings, only Canada and Mexico will suffer. So from this side you can look at the situation.
            1. stan200000
              stan200000 13 March 2018 21: 50
              0
              Our submarine drones automatically make a powder keg from the USA. Guaranteed fireworks!
              1. flicker
                flicker 14 March 2018 00: 41
                +1
                With our strike on the United States, Canada and Mexico will also suffer. But when you strike at least 13 more states will suffer. These 13 states will welcome the strike on Russia with nuclear weapons, the same Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania?
        2. Yak28
          Yak28 12 March 2018 18: 11
          0
          Who lives in the rest of the territory?
      2. Yak28
        Yak28 12 March 2018 18: 14
        0
        A powerful underwater nuclear explosion creating huge waves washes away almost all the muck.
        Washes off England too
  9. MoJloT
    MoJloT 12 March 2018 10: 14
    +3
    Firstly, their country is approximately two times smaller in area than the Russian Federation, with twice as much population. Which, with comparable power and the number of nuclear strikes, means that the United States will suffer 4 times more damage than the Russian Federation.

    Of course, there is no suitable section for this work in VO, but by what misunderstanding did it fall into the section of the analyst ???
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  10. flicker
    flicker 12 March 2018 12: 45
    +3
    Until March 1, Americans felt like HUNTERS, who were preparing to fill up the bear. But after March 1, they were given to understand that they were rather game ... and now this change of roles frightened them suddenly, they begin to drive away these thoughts from themselves: like, what kind of game are we, if we can:
    "We are ready for all available threatsand no one should doubt it ...
    Until now, threats emanated from them (from hunters), then suddenly ... they felt like game.
    Further even better:
    "By the way, they don’t know where our submarines are
    Yes, we are game, but at first you find us, we are well hidden ... and we can even pounce on you from under the silence and have a bite to death, the “General” heroically squeezed himself out:
    and they are able to destroy their country
    truth :
    if we go this way. "
    If we go ... the "general" hopes that it is possible not to go this way yes
    Exactly: maybe Russia should "listen now"? To remove NATO from our borders, etc. ... and in general to have a bite.
  11. Yak28
    Yak28 12 March 2018 18: 10
    0
    Even if the USA inflicts a massive unrequited nuclear strike on Russia, Europe will not find it much, an ecological catastrophe is ensured.
    1. Himdym
      Himdym 13 March 2018 06: 37
      0
      why? in St. Petersburg, for example, west-south-west winds prevail, so even the Balts will not appreciate it, the only alignment is the rise of the radioactive cloud by 10-20 km, well then all of Eurasia will be enough.
  12. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 12 March 2018 20: 56
    +4
    All this "general" nonsense reminds me very much of the "good" guys from American films in which they fervently "kick their ass" to the "bad guys" ...
    But in reality, this is another portion of arrogant verbal diarrhea, which spills over the heads of the inhabitants of America and Europe, to justify their own need and actually calm ...
    The Tough Guys have been sitting in garrisons in Afghanistan for decades without any small military successes. At the same time, the Taliban mounted on camels chasing them along the mountains and weights with any attempt to drive further a hundred meters from the base gate!
    The “invincible AUGs” are sadly swimming at a safe distance from the shores of North Korea and are trying hard to convince Seoul and Tokyo that, de, they will certainly punish Pyongyang after the Koreans and Japanese are smashed into molecules by their northern neighbors.
    And the result? And the result is a simple-silly Donald to himself the winner of his own schizophrenic battles!
    To match him and his "commanders" ... clapping themselves on their thighs and screaming loudly, they are desperately trying to hide their own fear and expressed urges for uncontrolled bowel movements.
    And these human countries assure the world of their own exclusiveness and special role in the life of mankind ?????!?!?! This is just a break in consciousness .....

    With all this, they cannot understand that Russia is NOT AFRAID of them! Because it is not afraid!
  13. Himdym
    Himdym 13 March 2018 06: 31
    0
    Quote: rkkasa 81
    It is simply unrealistic to heat 2-3 apartments with one potbelly stove. The most plausible option is for the whole family to stray into one room in which there will be a potbelly stove.

    I meant it, it is about maintaining the positive temperatures of building structures.
    in winter, the air density is slightly higher, so the depth of distribution of the secondary cloud will be less, if we consider the first strike as preparation for a large-scale ground operation, then in winter, in my opinion, it is the most logical.
  14. TimurEkgardt
    TimurEkgardt 13 March 2018 17: 39
    0
    And if they break through? And if everything flies at once and from everywhere? It will cover after all, and in the event of a direct attack, I would start everything all at once. But I'm sure the answer will be. If North. A Korean ballistic missile passed by the Patriot, then a pair of Sarmatians, a governor or something else would get to the provocateur.
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 14 March 2018 06: 07
    0
    the Yankees have gone too far, they haven’t gotten quite a while in the face ... Syria and North Korea will cool their hot heads a little