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Source: Avangard rocket complex launched into serial production.

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The Avangard strategic complex, with a hypersonic planning and maneuvering warhead, has been put into mass production, reports RT with reference to a military diplomatic source.


It is time for our Western partners to realize a new reality. Russian "Daggers" are already in the army. A "Avangard" launched into serial production
- said the source

Source: Avangard rocket complex launched into serial production.


According to him, no one, except Russia, has a hypersonic weapons no.

As for the cries from the West about Russia's alleged violation of the Treaty on Medium and Small-Range Missiles, all this from despair. There is no sense for Russia to violate the INF Treaty. New weapon does not fall under its action
- added a source.

He noted that it is necessary to understand that Russia "has the newest ocean multi-purpose system with autonomous underwater vehicles."

Russia has the newest avant-garde hypersonic strategic complex. Russia has a "Dagger" and other ultra-modern weapons systems, which Putin said. And high-precision weapons of the new generation are already on combat duty
- stressed the source.

He also called on the West to "realize all this" and sit down at the negotiating table.

Agree on comprehensive security, not saber-rattling and not violating parity, as the United States and NATO have been trying to do for many years. Actually, Putin himself said the best about it: “Didn't want to listen to us then? Listen now »
- he concluded.

Earlier, the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN), Sergei Karakaev, said that the Avangard complex was an effective response to the deployment of US missile defense systems
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    1. Muvka
      Muvka 3 March 2018 17: 13
      +12
      Here we have priorities, not the navy. Let’s compare the quality of missiles manufactured by China and their quantity. How do you like when comparing the fleet.
      1. Monos
        Monos 3 March 2018 17: 19
        +70
        Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. smile It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.
        1. hrych
          hrych 3 March 2018 17: 26
          +45
          Quote: Monos
          Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

          Exactly so drinks They threw all their strength and resources on Aegis and Stealth, and the Dark Lord did fantastic things. By the way, they are not so fantastic, all within the framework of progress. But Hegemon is no longer Hegemon, but a second-rate power wassat

          They themselves know the principle, they themselves were engaged and suddenly, when the Russians did, they began to hysteria that this was impossible wassat
          1. Monos
            Monos 3 March 2018 17: 36
            +39
            Greetings, colleague. hi drinks
            It was a handicap race. We gave them (not at will) a car of time. They missed him. Now let squeal and wipe snot.
            1. hrych
              hrych 3 March 2018 17: 40
              +73
              They started to finish in a fork with a striped flag, signing autographs, but then someone flew in hypersound wassat
              drinks
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 4 March 2018 07: 58
                +5
                Syria needs a dagger.
                So that no one has any doubts. And the barmalei realize that there is no one else to protect them.
                These are emotions ... smile
            2. urman
              urman 3 March 2018 20: 56
              +5
              Well, you don’t need to be arrogant, but how it will happen to amers.
              Well, the fact that they gave us a time car is for sure, they thought everything to us was a cord,
              GDP is not only judo MC but noble chess player,
              now they are breaking their heart’s not childishly, then from frustration.
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 4 March 2018 08: 04
                +15
                Here again Bismarck recalls:
                Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main power of Russia. Russians, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, will just as quickly reunite with each other as particles of a cut piece of mercury. This is an indestructible state of the Russian nation, strong in its climate, its spaces and limited needs.

                And this:
                Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

                And of course:
                Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.

                We need to demonstrate once again that we are RUSSIAN.
                This applies to those who are Russian, who remained in Ukraine. Let the whole world understand that Ukraine is a Russian land.

                Thank God that Putin did not go to Russia. It seemed that kirdyk, but survived. Hooray! Hurray to all of us !!! The mood then rose on the first of March! In Russia before Peter the First of March was a new year according to the church calendar. wink
                1. major147
                  major147 4 March 2018 13: 36
                  +7
                  "It was worth any army to declare itself

                  first in the world as she inevitably met

                  Cheerful Russians on their way

                  shelves - and ... became the second in the world "

                  historian A.A. Kersnovsky
          2. Partyzan
            Partyzan 3 March 2018 17: 41
            +22
            Quote: hrych
            They themselves know the principle, they themselves were engaged and suddenly, when the Russians did, they began to hysteria that this was impossible

            you know, if the gopher is not visible, then this does not mean that it is not tongue
            1. hrych
              hrych 3 March 2018 17: 50
              +33
              Quote: Partyzan
              you know, if the gopher is not visible, then this does not mean that he

              The little believers accused them of showing cartoons. Firstly, they showed absolutely all the starts of fashionable devices in real life, and then go operators and catch up with hypersonic gliders so that you can attest to their flight, you can even interview laughing or a nuclear torpedo in the abyss of dark waters wassat
              1. Partyzan
                Partyzan 3 March 2018 17: 55
                +22
                Quote: hrych
                The little believers accused them of showing cartoons.

                remember Soviet times, even the general form of technology was forbidden to remove, and rightly so, this, as they say now, know-how laughing
                1. standan
                  standan 3 March 2018 21: 34
                  +6
                  In the USSR, even the "military" cartoons did not show
                2. Evgeniy667b
                  Evgeniy667b 5 March 2018 16: 21
                  0
                  GDP PR. About such weapons should not be distributed. Let it be for the adversary like snow on his head. And now they are warned and are looking for an adequate counterweight. They’ll find it sooner or later. Their industrial potential is much more powerful than ours. It is better for Putin to take care of the forests of Russia, otherwise the Chinese have thoroughly cleaned everything up in the Angara area and around Lake Baikal.
              2. Blondy
                Blondy 4 March 2018 10: 39
                +11
                Well, of course, little believers are right - all this is a bluff in Soviet time. But if you play the spy (google it well), then oddities begin to appear, For example, on March 2, 2016, Kiriyenko, as the head of Rosatom, talked about space missions on a nuclear power plant in his State Duma report and hit his chest, which By the end of 2018, the transport and energy module will be ready for flight tests. The project price is 20 billion rubles, 17 billion from the budget. I’m not to say that 20 billion, but to the fact that Kiriyenko may have been drinking it, but the bastard coped with all the projects and pulled Rosatom out of a deep (well, let it be) depression. And then there is Putin with a small-sized nuclear power installation. Well, this is already trivial - Capone used to say that with a kind word and with a gun it is much easier to convince than with a kind word. So - such a bluff-like train around a nuclear power plant is clearly not easy. Then, there is too much noise and suspicious little work with the Angara, which resembles a curtain. In general, we stock up on popcorn and wait, sir. Something interesting must degenerate: like to Mars in a month and a half. We won’t kick the mask - all his enthusiasm can disappear ahead of time.
                1. R Anatoly
                  R Anatoly 4 March 2018 18: 20
                  0
                  And what can they do - all that remains is to bluff with the Mask, and before him with flights (apparently on a broomstick) to the moon. So brazenly only Americans can lie. Oblaposhit the whole world !!!, Well it is necessary to reach this.
            2. urman
              urman 3 March 2018 21: 01
              +10
              I remembered an interview with a state general in the 90s.
              Arrogant such, such as where to rock the Russian Federation, we managed to study all its weapons, rusty ships and aircraft.
              Now I would look at him,
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          3. Observer2014
            Observer2014 3 March 2018 18: 08
            +30
            hrych hi
            They themselves know the principle, they themselves were engaged and suddenly, when the Russians did, they began to hysteria that this was impossible
            I won’t be surprised if they start yelling that Russian missiles are not flying honestly. Because missiles are in meldonium laughing wassat
            1. hrych
              hrych 3 March 2018 18: 15
              +49
              Quote: Observer2014
              Because missiles in meldonium

              Better to be in Meldonium than Norwegian asthmatic wassat drinks
            2. tezey
              tezey 3 March 2018 18: 19
              +3
              You are not mistaken. I read similar on Rambler.
          4. Thrall
            Thrall 3 March 2018 18: 56
            +27
            An update for the training manual has been released:
            1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
            2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.
            1. karish
              karish 3 March 2018 18: 59
              +8
              Quote: Thrall
              An update for the training manual has been released:
              1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
              2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

              different countries - different manuals
              1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
              2. This will never happen in the USA
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 3 March 2018 19: 03
                +24
                Well, they will, then it will be. And how much fat in Kiev? So, interestingly simple.
                1. Mendax
                  Mendax 4 March 2018 01: 18
                  +2
                  If they are stubborn, it will be a new arms race, and much more expensive than during the Soviet Union ....
              2. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 3 March 2018 20: 44
                +8
                Quote: karish
                Quote: Thrall
                An update for the training manual has been released:
                1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
                2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

                different countries - different manuals
                1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
                2. This will never happen in the USA

                Buddy, well, do not be so heartless! It's the same as a little penny's child to take away.
              3. massad1
                massad1 3 March 2018 20: 49
                +14
                Oh, I beg of you - study your textbook about how your Soviet AU 16 rocket demolished your vaunted aces on F-70
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 21: 27
                  +12
                  Quote: massad1
                  Oh, I beg of you - study your textbook about how your Soviet AU 16 rocket demolished your vaunted aces on F-70

                  You won’t believe it, but a bullet fired from an old karamultuk can hit the best commando in the best outfit.
                  1. massad1
                    massad1 3 March 2018 22: 47
                    +9
                    Yes, I don’t argue. I didn’t write a post for this. I’m leading to the fact that these malicious catters of the Jewish brothers are at least inappropriate, let everyone look at their wheels.
                2. A. Privalov
                  A. Privalov 3 March 2018 21: 35
                  +11
                  Quote: massad1
                  Oh, I beg of you - study your textbook about how your Soviet AU 16 rocket demolished your vaunted aces on F-70

                  Unlike you, my dear, I do not gloat, I do not enjoy other people's failures. And my heart is with the dead Russian pilot, and with the citizens of the Russian Federation, no matter how many February 7s are there, not even recognized as their own country. Blessed be the memory of them ...
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 3 March 2018 22: 38
                    +8
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    You won’t believe it, but a bullet fired from an old karamultuk can hit the best commando in the best outfit.

                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    Unlike you, dear, I do not gloat, I do not rejoice in the failures of others.

                    ... My regards ! ... but in this particular case, you gentlemen with your malicious smirks, you ran into yourself ... and rightly so ... the wrong place is Israel, for which you can broadcast with a smirk on such topics as "Vanguard" and "Dagger" .. . With respect ! ... hi
                  2. massad1
                    massad1 3 March 2018 22: 40
                    +5
                    where does the failure ??? stuck across the border and got a hill, not a bit of gloating, only a statement of fact - air piracy must be severely suppressed !!! Anticipating the following question: the legal government called us there, nobody called you there.
                    1. Inok10
                      Inok10 3 March 2018 22: 45
                      +2
                      Quote: massad1
                      where does the failure ??? stuck across the border and got a hill, not a bit of gloating, only a statement of fact - air piracy must be severely suppressed !!! Anticipating the following question: the legal government called us there, nobody called you there.

                      ... dismiss Draka ... Flood is punishable by law, as are comments not related to the subject of the article ... hi
                      P.S. ... do not mess up the topic ...
                      1. massad1
                        massad1 3 March 2018 22: 55
                        +1
                        sorry for the off-top, I won’t soldier
                  3. Prokhor80
                    Prokhor80 4 March 2018 01: 49
                    0
                    there is still gloating
                  4. Every
                    Every 4 March 2018 02: 16
                    +2
                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    and with the citizens of the Russian Federation, no matter how many they were there on February 7, not even recognized by their own country.

                    The dead were not members of the Russian army. Who they were to everyone is clear. But the Russian Federation simply should not recognize mercenaries in them. We have mercenarism - a criminal offense. If they are called mercenaries, it means automatically accusing the commission of a crime ....
                    So that is the tourists. And no one else.
                  5. co-creator
                    co-creator 4 March 2018 03: 52
                    +3
                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    and with the citizens of the Russian Federation, no matter how many they were there on February 7, not even recognized by their own country. Blessed be the memory of them ..

                    Isn't that malice? Although you perfectly understand the difference between the military and mercenaries. Russia always recognizes its citizens and corpses were transported to the Russian Federation, as is the case with other citizens who died, for example, in Thailand.
              4. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 4 March 2018 08: 39
                +1
                You understand it is calmer to think so. And it turns out they feasted, feasted, and then once a sailor hung with grenades comes in and says ... - "That's all, sorry gentlemen, good, the feast is over. Kish world in tukhes ..."
              5. Red_Hamer
                Red_Hamer 4 March 2018 09: 20
                +1
                2. This will never happen in the USA
                Who said no?
                "Someday, probably, he will appear, but during this time our guys will come up with something else." That was said so.
              6. Dart
                Dart 4 March 2018 17: 38
                0
                as they say, walk Vasya, chew the sawdust, get tired (another expression) swallow dust) tongue
          5. dorz
            dorz 3 March 2018 19: 05
            +2
            Quote: Monos
            Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. smile It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

            Two hypersonic devices are being tested in the USA, one for silo ICBMs and the other for the Polaris marine. The series is still far away and it pleases.
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 3 March 2018 21: 29
              +3
              It is not yet known how these trials will end.
              For the United States is willing to engage in baseless advertising. You don’t have to go far for an example - railgun
            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 21: 31
              +5
              Quote: dorz

              Two hypersonic devices are being tested in the USA, one for silo ICBMs and the other for the Polaris marine. The series is still far away and it pleases.

              Poor Americans Although ...

              New weapons are still unpredictable in terms of serial production, but it is already known that their individual samples will take up combat duty in the next 10 years, said the former commander of the VKS, the head of the Federation Council defense committee Viktor Bondarev.We are talking about a promising missile system with a planning winged block and a new cruise missile with a nuclear power plant.

              Oh how.
              1. the lord
                the lord 5 March 2018 23: 35
                0
                Again and again about the degradation of the Jews, the process is clearly progressing .... Somehow, it’s a pity to look, looking for allegedly someone’s words somewhere.
        2. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 3 March 2018 17: 29
          +10
          Quote: Monos
          Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

          And the compulsion to peace began. What alternative do they have to what is said and what is shown? Just try to pretend that nothing happened, persistently insist on Russia's allegedly aggressive intentions and continue the arms business of US corporations demanding more and more infusions from the Congress dependent on it.
          1. Monos
            Monos 3 March 2018 17: 39
            +38
            Quote: Tatar 174
            And the compulsion to peace began.

            This is generally an interesting point. We were persuaded for a long time that we lost the Cold War, but it turned out that we simply changed shoes and laced up the berets. smile
            1. Dimka off
              Dimka off 3 March 2018 17: 51
              +11
              Quote: Monos
              that we just changed shoes and laced berets.

              Russians harness for a long time and go fast)
            2. Partyzan
              Partyzan 3 March 2018 19: 05
              +5
              Quote: Monos
              but it turned out that we just changed shoes and laced up the berets.

              but they don’t understand this - they all have Velcro, though they often lose their shoes drinks
          2. hrych
            hrych 3 March 2018 17: 42
            +12
            Quote: Tatar 174
            Just try to pretend that nothing happened

            Macaron and Merkel expressed concern, Trump annoyingly extended the sanctions, and Boris set off laughing
            1. Romario_Argo
              Romario_Argo 3 March 2018 18: 56
              +5
              Trump annoyingly extended sanctions

              he doesn’t have any annoyance. because they simply don’t have such technologies even in projects.
              they were in the know when they expressed their concern about PC-26 Boundary, she is the Vanguard. Like we violated the INF Treaty. When launches were carried out at a distance of 2000 km.
        3. Partyzan
          Partyzan 3 March 2018 17: 38
          +30
          Quote: Monos
          It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

          Victor - this is at least 10 years, and all because they changed the strategy - "catch up and overtake America" ​​changed to "we will go the other way"
          1. Monos
            Monos 3 March 2018 17: 46
            +11
            Quote: Partyzan
            changed to "we will go the other way"

            smile Although, it would seem, everyone has long known that Russians are terrible for their unpredictability; so no, they cackle, feathers dissolve, heel in the chest beat themselves, make terrible faces ...
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 3 March 2018 18: 00
              +19
              Quote: Monos
              so no, cackle, feathers open,

              they want a medal, although I would have handed it over like Gorbachev
              1. 210ox
                210ox 3 March 2018 18: 11
                +9
                Medals .... With a spin on the back ..
                Quote: Partyzan
                Quote: Monos
                so no, cackle, feathers open,

                they want a medal, although I would have handed it over like Gorbachev
                1. Partyzan
                  Partyzan 3 March 2018 18: 16
                  +12
                  Quote: 210ox
                  With a spin on the back ..

                  you are very kind, I would just bend the nail bully
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 3 March 2018 20: 14
                    +6
                    you are very kind, I would just bend the nail

                    You are VERY kind, I would drill a hole and screw it onto a bolt.
                    1. Partyzan
                      Partyzan 3 March 2018 20: 25
                      +6
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      I would drill a hole

                      Sergei hi and you are a sadist, hammer from the front with a sledgehammer, take a sledgehammer from behind
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 3 March 2018 20: 45
                        +3
                        and you are a sadist

                        Here you are wrong, I can only be forced into the garden. Sadists are voluntary gardeners. wink good
                      2. not main
                        not main 3 March 2018 22: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Partyzan
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        I would drill a hole

                        Sergei hi and you are a sadist, hammer from the front with a sledgehammer, take a sledgehammer from behind

                        The biggest nail is 5 to 200, you can score. And hardly bend.
          2. Hammerlock
            Hammerlock 3 March 2018 18: 32
            +6
            all their missile defense ... (I do not know how to designate this sound with letters)

            and MIC
        4. Lopatov
          Lopatov 3 March 2018 17: 54
          +8
          Quote: Monos
          Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

          ?
          Do you think that the American military-industrial complex will voluntarily abandon gigantic profits?
          1. Monos
            Monos 3 March 2018 17: 59
            +12
            Quote: Spade
            Do you think that the American military-industrial complex will voluntarily abandon gigantic profits?

            No, well, in this sense - yes, they will drive for sale. But this is no longer an arms race, but an auction of rarities. smile
            1. flicker
              flicker 3 March 2018 20: 07
              +2
              Yes, they will drive for sale.
              they will demand a cut
        5. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 3 March 2018 17: 56
          +17
          Quote: Monos
          Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. smile It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

          It is ridiculous to think that in this world you can threaten psycho mattresses with a nuclear missile. More precisely, it’s generally ridiculous to threaten any psycho with a nuclear missile ... The pin-dos have accepted the challenge and will now double-beat us with non-nuclear means, since they will not believe in life that someone will have the will not only for an empty idle talk. )
          If Putin had at least once shown that his words were not just another idle talk before the election, then I would have voted for him. But alas ...
          1. Monos
            Monos 3 March 2018 18: 03
            +16
            Quote: Misha Honest
            and now they will double us with non-nuclear means

            And when did they figurate us? smile A hypersonic projectile does not have to equip a core-loaf. He has such kinetic energy that anyone has enough eyes. Read smart books. laughing
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 3 March 2018 18: 10
              +10
              Quote: Monos
              And when did they figurate us?

              Syria - Wagner, Su-24 - Erdogan,, Ukraine - completely, Libya - Gaddafi ... are you not enough? I can name a couple more ...
              1. Monos
                Monos 3 March 2018 18: 19
                +21
                Quote: Misha Honest
                Syria - Wagner, Su-24 - Erdogan, Ukraine - completely, Libya - Gaddafi.

                Do not pull the donkey by the ears. smile Of all that you have written here, only SU-24 reality. But even that, they were Turks, not Americans. And they were afraid of their greyhounds and still repent.
                Quote: Misha Honest
                I can name a couple more ...

                Do not strain. And then so suck the whole finger. laughing
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 3 March 2018 18: 23
                  +7
                  Turks in NATO have been and will be ... Don’t be stupid, please. ) NATO enemies to us-direct ...
                  Quote: Monos
                  Do not strain. Otherwise, you’ll suck your whole finger

                  Arrogance is contagious. ) You just do not see the obvious. This is your business ...
                  1. Monos
                    Monos 3 March 2018 18: 28
                    +16
                    You have porridge in your head. With such confusion, it’s a shame in my thoughts, my friend, to get out on people. smile
                    1. Misha Honest
                      Misha Honest 3 March 2018 18: 38
                      +8
                      Quote: Monos
                      You have porridge in your head. With such confusion, it’s a shame in my thoughts, my friend, to get out on people. smile

                      You have porridge, but everything is extremely clear to me. It’s fashionable and fun to beat Russia now, despite the fact that we will not answer ... Shame. I would look at today's Russia with any other adequate leader ...
                      1. Mestny
                        Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 17
                        +17
                        This is what is characteristic of you, the weeping-bastards about Russia - your mantras are recognizable from the first sentence.
                        Well enough, really.
                        Well, we do not eat the last hedgehogs. Yes, there are problems, and in some places rather big ones. But they are not nearly so large that they would take to the streets and break it all for the sake of some kind of “new leader”.
                        The situation in the country is such that a "new leader" is not yet needed. And the old is nothing yet.
                      2. Monos
                        Monos 3 March 2018 19: 38
                        +23
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        A shame. I would look at today's Russia with any other adequate leader ...

                        You are apparently too young. How old are you, 16-17? But we saw both Russia and the Union under different leaders. We have something to compare. Pick up snot and do not fool adult uncles head.
                  2. flicker
                    flicker 3 March 2018 20: 17
                    +8
                    Turks in NATO have been and will be ...
                    After the SU-24, the Turks finally understood what NATO is. At first, they beat Erdogan in every way possible, to shoot down the SU-24 promising help and protection, and when he shot down, NATO said that it was Russian-Turkish graters and that they did not interfere there yes
                    Not for that, Americans include other countries in NATO to die for these countries - on the contrary, they include in NATO so that the peoples of these countries die for the interests of mattresses.
                    1. Misha Honest
                      Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 31
                      +1
                      Quote: flicker
                      Turks in NATO have been and will be ...
                      After the SU-24, the Turks finally understood what NATO is. At first, they beat Erdogan in every way possible, to shoot down the SU-24 promising help and protection, and when he shot down, NATO said that it was Russian-Turkish graters and that they did not interfere there yes
                      Not for that, Americans include other countries in NATO to die for these countries - on the contrary, they include in NATO so that the peoples of these countries die for the interests of mattresses.

                      After the SU-24, the Turks realized that mattresses paid well for our downed planes ... And the Turks were always greedy.
                      I completely agree with the rest - none of them are allies. )
                    2. Misha Honest
                      Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 40
                      +4
                      Quote: flicker
                      Turks in NATO have been and will be ...
                      After the SU-24, the Turks finally understood what NATO is. At first, they beat Erdogan in every way possible, to shoot down the SU-24 promising help and protection, and when he shot down, NATO said that it was Russian-Turkish graters and that they did not interfere there yes
                      Not for that, Americans include other countries in NATO to die for these countries - on the contrary, they include in NATO so that the peoples of these countries die for the interests of mattresses.

                      Nevertheless, the Turks didn’t leave NATO, which means we are selling the vital system to our enemies. ) Not funny. Absolutely. This is idiocy.
                      1. flicker
                        flicker 4 March 2018 09: 47
                        +4
                        Nevertheless, the Turks didn’t leave NATO
                        What for? For them, this is an ideal situation - the position "I will leave NATO" for the Turks has become a GOODS, which he can successfully sell to us and Amers. But one thing is for sure, the Turks WILL NOT Fight for NATO.
                  3. Black_Vatnik
                    Black_Vatnik 3 March 2018 21: 37
                    +4
                    Do you know how you reacted to NATO in the case of SU-24 when Erdogan mentioned the unity of the Alliance and article 5?
                    The question is rhetorical)
                    And yes, I’m not talking about the fact that Erdogan crawled over to Putin in the summer of 2016)
                    1. Misha Honest
                      Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 52
                      +3
                      Quote: Black_Jacket
                      Do you know how you reacted to NATO in the case of SU-24 when Erdogan mentioned the unity of the Alliance and article 5?

                      In the course - they were scared and did not support, but approved)
                      Quote: Black_Jacket
                      And yes, I’m not talking about the fact that Erdogan crawled over to Putin in the summer of 2016)

                      The nature of the Turks is such that they crawl to you today, and then ... with a leg under their ribs ... It always has been, but they have not changed at all during this time.
                      1. Black_Vatnik
                        Black_Vatnik 3 March 2018 22: 40
                        +3
                        So for which banana do you tie the situation with SU-24 to our graters with the Americans? To the heap, if only it were?
                        Do not tell me about the nature of the Turks. I studied with the Turks under the same roof for 2 years.
                        I don’t want to belittle your mental abilities, but, I think, even if you allow the situation with a “leg under the ribs”, I dare to assume that the GDP team drove this situation 150 times in ten different scenarios.

                        It would be possible to discuss about the PMC "Wagner" and about Ukraine ... but only on SU-24 everything became clear)
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                  1. Misha Honest
                    Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Nikolai Grek
                    Quote: Monos
                    And they were afraid of their greyhounds and still repent.

                    Do not forget what it turned out to Turkars ... and there it is far from a tomato !! wink wink liberals mow under fools, not noticing what happened after our SU-24 !!! fool fool negative negative negative

                    What else are you talking about? The actual loss of the Turks is with \ x-tomato households and tourism, but the owners will always print green to them, if that ...
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 21: 51
                      +5
                      Quote: Misha Honest
                      What else are you talking about?

                      that the downed plane eventually turned for Turkey an attempted military coup ... find out the number of dead and wounded yourself !!! wink this is not to mention the "little things" in the form of economic problems !!! request request wassat wassat wassat
                      1. Misha Honest
                        Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 58
                        +2
                        Quote: Nikolai Grek
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        What else are you talking about?

                        that the downed plane eventually turned for Turkey an attempted military coup ... find out the number of dead and wounded yourself !!! wink this is not to mention the "little things" in the form of economic problems !!! request request wassat wassat wassat

                        The coup is their personal thing with mattresses, it is foolish to believe that if we helped them, then they will be faithful to us before the grave.
                    2. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 4 March 2018 00: 12
                      +3
                      Quote: Misha Honest
                      The coup is their personal with mattresses

                      a coup was possible because of a quarrel with Russia ... you think narrowly, but you undertake to talk about such serious topics !!! what fool fool laughing laughing laughing
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 18: 40
            +14
            Quote: Misha Honest
            If Putin would at least once show that his words are not just another idle talk

            recourse recourse recourse I believe that you, in confirmation of the presence of voiced weapons, were expecting a movie with a real blow to the Americans ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 3 March 2018 18: 46
              +2
              Quote: Nikolai Grek
              Quote: Misha Honest
              If Putin would at least once show that his words are not just another idle talk

              recourse recourse recourse I believe that you, in confirmation of the presence of voiced weapons, were expecting a movie with a real blow to the Americans ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

              To reassure or calm the mattresses you need the ROLLER WITH APPLICATION, and not an empty chatter about what will happen in the future. Or didn’t you know about it?
              1. cariperpaint
                cariperpaint 3 March 2018 18: 55
                +12
                oh well))) Well, I understand skepticism of course, but forgive me and what kind of weapon of such strength does someone demonstrate then? instead of stupid talk, is it true or not everyone should think why it happened now. no need about elections only. he would have won them like that. everything in my opinion is much worse.
                1. Mestny
                  Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 20
                  +6
                  Yes, even if they demonstrate it, they will yell that this is all untrue, that they showed not at all what they promised.
                  It’s all done, these doubts, not in order to find out the truth, but to add an extra bucket of shit to the authorities on the fan.
                2. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: cariperpaint
                  oh well))) Well, I understand skepticism of course, but forgive me and what kind of weapon of such strength does someone demonstrate then? instead of stupid talk, is it true or not everyone should think why it happened now. no need about elections only. he would have won them like that. everything in my opinion is much worse.

                  Mattresses demonstrate everywhere - it means they are ready to apply. And we ... just solid boltology.
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 19: 09
                +13
                Quote: Misha Honest
                you need the ROLLER WITH APPLICATION, and not an empty chatter

                recourse recourse and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 3 March 2018 22: 28
                  0
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons ???
                  You can answer your own question by looking in YouTube yourself.) In general, pray that we will not see it in our lifetime ...
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 4 March 2018 00: 14
                    +2
                    Quote: Misha Honest
                    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                    and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons ???
                    You can answer your own question by searching in YouTube yourself.).

                    at least a year tell me ... 2000th or at least 2010th ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                2. Full name
                  Full name 4 March 2018 18: 12
                  0
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons?

                  Nikolai, what does nuclear weapon have to do with it? Indeed, in the announced types of weapons, the novelty is not the BP type, but the methods of its delivery. Namely: hypersonic speed (Dagger, Vanguard planning warheads) and unlimited range provided by a small-sized nuclear engine (Status or as it is called now and a cruise missile with poison) Why not reinforce verbal knocking with a boot on a high platform, demonstration tests?
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 4 March 2018 18: 16
                    0
                    Quote: Full name
                    Nikolai, what does nuclear weapon have to do with it?

                    if you consciously described in your comment about a weapon, then you yourself understand that for no reason nobody will be a naughty thing !!!! laughing laughing laughing
                    1. Full name
                      Full name 4 March 2018 21: 01
                      0
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      you understand that just like that nobody will naughty things

                      No, I don’t understand. And I don’t understand why you in vain smile emoticons. And about the tests, not "just like that", but with the goal of real, not unfounded demonstration of the capabilities of a new type of weapon. After all, in the USSR they did not hesitate to undermine megaton charges, and launch rockets into space, why should one be modest now? I think that Putin was a little hurried. And why - firstly, elections are on the way and the electorate must be encouraged, and secondly, elections too, but the message is already “for export”, in the light of possible Western provocations in Ukraine and Syria (in order to disrupt them or lower the rating Putin) - scare the West, they say, do not joke, the local war can end in global Armageddets.
                      1. askme
                        askme 4 March 2018 21: 06
                        +1
                        Are you a real oligophrenic or fool around? Didn’t they teach you at school that all five leading nuclear powers of the world comply with the moratorium on testing nuclear weapons, especially the megaton class, and besides, there has been a ban on such tests since the 60s (for the megaton class)?
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              3. Svarog51
                Svarog51 3 March 2018 20: 22
                +6
                To reassure or calm the mattresses you need the ROLLER WITH APPLICATION

                Maybe not "ROLLER", but "APPLICATION"? But there’s a catch - we’re “partners” for now. I think they and Roller will be satisfied if they have not completely lost their minds.
            2. Icarus
              Icarus 4 March 2018 08: 52
              +1
              It's not about how we think about our weapons, but how the striped think about it. To make them negotiable without a real demonstration of the abilities of the RS 26 (without warheads) can not do. For example, on some uninhabited island in the Pacific Ocean (closer to the states) it is necessary to gasp.
          3. StVahmistr
            StVahmistr 3 March 2018 22: 07
            +4
            If Putin had at least once shown that his words were not just another idle talk before the election, then I would have voted for him. But alas ...

            Well, yes, the storyteller is excellent ... 18 years the same thing, but still listen with bated breath. (Why not laugh?) what
        6. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2018 20: 22
          +2
          Quote: Monos
          Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

          I doubt however. Remember when the competition of armor and shell began? But it continues to this day. As long as humanity exists, there will be wars. And that means the arms race. Alas.
        7. Orionvit
          Orionvit 3 March 2018 22: 56
          0
          Quote: Monos
          arms race is over

          Wait, nobody has canceled the money, along with the huge American military-industrial complex. In my opinion, the arms race is entering a new stage. The Pentagon immediately orientated itself, and instead of a trillion dollars, it asked Congress for three.
        8. R Anatoly
          R Anatoly 4 March 2018 18: 39
          0
          Nuclear engines and Vanguards have been around with us for 30 years. And all this time the Americans tried to create something remotely similar, but they couldn’t. Even the UN bent down to ban Russia from using nuclear engines.
          Guys - BE Proud OF OUR COUNTRY!
        9. R Anatoly
          R Anatoly 4 March 2018 18: 41
          0
          Nuclear engines and Vanguards have been around with us for 30 years. And all this time the Americans tried to create something remotely similar, but they couldn’t. Even the UN bent down to ban Russia from using nuclear engines.
          Guys - BE Proud OF OUR COUNTRY!
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 3 March 2018 17: 20
        +11
        Quote: Muvka
        Here we have priorities, not the navy. Let’s compare the quality of missiles manufactured by China and their quantity. How do you like when comparing the fleet.

        Do you know the quality of Chinese missiles? Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches .. how many satellites have lost ..
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 3 March 2018 17: 35
          +6
          Quote: Svarog
          Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches .. how many satellites have lost ..

          Comrade Svarog, this is a hard way to know, you have to go through it.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 3 March 2018 17: 38
            +4
            Quote: Tartar 174
            Quote: Svarog
            Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches .. how many satellites have lost ..

            Comrade Svarog, this is a hard way to know, you have to go through it.

            it’s not clear what you mean by that? What knowledge?
            1. Tatar 174
              Tatar 174 3 March 2018 17: 48
              +3
              Well, for something to work as it should, you need to redo it and redo it more than once until you get what you want, moreover, what if nobody has done it to you. That's what I meant about such a "hard way of knowing."
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 3 March 2018 17: 59
                +4
                Quote: Tartar 174
                Well, for something to work as it should, you need to redo it and redo it more than once until you get what you want, moreover, what if nobody has done it to you. That's what I meant about such a "hard way of knowing."

                I agree with this .. but the conversation was about proven missiles, which we fall regularly and the path of knowledge on them has been covered for a long time.
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 18: 45
                  +9
                  Quote: Svarog
                  which we fall regularly

                  recourse recourse if you do sekas with the same “regularity” as our missiles fall, then it’s clear where you got problems !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 58
                    +6
                    Quote: Nikolai Grek
                    Quote: Svarog
                    which we fall regularly

                    recourse recourse if you do sekas with the same “regularity” as our missiles fall, then it’s clear where you got problems !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

                    Who hurts something ... he says that .. laughing hi
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 19: 16
                      +7
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Quote: Nikolai Grek
                      Quote: Svarog
                      which we fall regularly

                      recourse recourse if you do sekas with the same “regularity” as our missiles fall, then it’s clear where you got problems !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

                      Who hurts something ... he says that .. laughing hi

                      laughing laughing well, for you a more understandable language ... if you eat with the same "regularity" as our rockets fall, then ..... !!!! wink lol lol lol I think you should still figure out the real meaning of some of the words you use !!! tongue tongue yes laughing laughing laughing
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 3 March 2018 21: 31
                        +8
                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        well, for you a more understandable language ... if you eat with the same "regularity" as our rockets fall, then ..... !!!! I think you should still figure out the real meaning of some of the words you use !!!

                        Here is a story in comparison with 2011 - to 2015.
                        Russia: 160 starts / 11 unsuccessful / failure rate 6,875%
                        USA: 109 starts / 6 unsuccessful / failure rate 5,5%
                        PRC: 101 launches / 3 unsuccessful / failure rate 2,97%
                        EU: 52 starts / 1 unsuccessful / failure rate 1,92%

                        Here you can see in detail http://www.nasha-strana.info/archives/2141
                        Well, about the military, we will never know ..
                    2. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 21: 55
                      +4
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Here is a story in comparison with 2011 - to 2015.
                      Russia: 160 starts / 11 unsuccessful / failure rate 6,875%
                      USA: 109 starts / 6 unsuccessful / failure rate 5,5%
                      PRC: 101 launches / 3 unsuccessful / failure rate 2,97%
                      EU: 52 starts / 1 unsuccessful / failure rate 1,92%

                      then everyone can talk about "regularity" and tie up this demagogy on your part !!! request wassat tongue tongue laughing laughing laughing
                2. bk316
                  bk316 3 March 2018 20: 44
                  +6
                  fall regularly

                  good to drive just answer how many missiles we fell in 17
                  military and non-military
        2. Muvka
          Muvka 3 March 2018 17: 43
          +7
          How many unsuccessful launches of the BR last year were? Or the year before last? Do you understand what kind of crap are you talking about?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 00
            +2
            I'm not talking about BR ..
            Quote: Muvka
            How many unsuccessful launches of the BR last year were? Or the year before last? Do you understand what kind of crap are you talking about?

            and you understand it perfectly ..
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 3 March 2018 18: 18
              +8
              What about? Are we discussing the military or what? Maybe stop flogging nonsense?
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 28
                +8
                Quote: Muvka
                What about? Are we discussing the military or what? Maybe stop flogging nonsense?

                Do not know what you are specifically discussing laughing But do it with all the proletarian fervor laughing You do not need to lower a lot on the ground .. that would be more objective to the ongoing processes. The fact that in China everything is bad with everything, in Europe, and so on. I hear every day .. And that in Russia everything is wonderful too, every day I hear, but I don’t see .. hi
                1. AUL
                  AUL 3 March 2018 18: 53
                  0
                  I’m sitting here and racking my brains - what is this “military-diplomatic source”? Can I even name his initials? request
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 18: 46
                +4
                Quote: Muvka
                What about? Are we discussing the military or what? Maybe stop flogging nonsense?

                which do not discuss, there does not smell of regularity !!! what what Well, current if in someone’s inadequate subjective perception !!! request request wassat wassat lol lol lol
        3. bk316
          bk316 3 March 2018 20: 41
          +4
          Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches ..

          very much - how much?
          in 17 was ONE
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 3 March 2018 21: 34
            +3
            Here is a story in comparison with 2011 - to 2015.
            Russia: 160 starts / 11 unsuccessful / failure rate 6,875%
            USA: 109 starts / 6 unsuccessful / failure rate 5,5%
            PRC: 101 launches / 3 unsuccessful / failure rate 2,97%
            EU: 52 starts / 1 unsuccessful / failure rate 1,92%

            Here you can see in detail http://www.nasha-strana.info/archives/2141
            Well, about the military, we will never know ..
      3. mvg
        mvg 3 March 2018 19: 46
        +3
        Here at your leisure and look at the nomenclature of PRC missiles and their performance characteristics. That winged, that ballistic (from tactical to mbr), high-precision, ATGM, etc.
        Russia is at least not ahead (if only sea-based MBRs), but in terms of quantity it’s clear.
        1. Operator
          Operator 3 March 2018 20: 59
          +7
          How about IQ?

          The Russian Federation and the United States each individually are an order of magnitude ahead of the PRC in terms of the number of nuclear charges and their carriers, including strategic and tactical nuclear charges.

          And it’s better not even to remember about the sloppy design of Chinese missiles (all without exception). For example, the Chinese, like chicken with an egg, were scampering with their land-based anti-ship ballistic missiles (the only ones in the world how their propaganda was broadcasting), and on March 1 they instantly ended up in the ass - the air-based dagger complex (MiG-31 + Iskander) worked out all 100% and mobile to amazement (900 relocation speed km / h).

          You confuse the number of Chinese (1,5 billion) with their creativity (zero point zero).
          1. mvg
            mvg 3 March 2018 21: 25
            +3
            I had about 151, and you? Still, dig around, maybe you will find the numbers. A dagger is, of course, a panacea. More on the Star did not show anything? How many daggers on combat duty then? Hooray idiocy has not been canceled .. yes.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 22: 27
              0
              Quote: mvg
              How many daggers on combat duty then? Hooray idiocy has not been canceled .. yes.

              But not a single one. And even when they begin to appear, what will it change? The Americans did not attack the Russian Federation, they will not attack.
              1. karish
                karish 3 March 2018 22: 36
                +3
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                Quote: mvg
                How many daggers on combat duty then? Hooray idiocy has not been canceled .. yes.

                But not a single one. And even when they begin to appear, what will it change? Americans have not attacked the Russian Federation, and will not attack.


                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 3 March 2018 23: 08
                  +6
                  Well, to bring the old senile Jew as evidence - this is your sink, there is really nothing to answer.
                  1. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 23: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Well, to bring the old senile Jew as evidence - this is your sink, there is really nothing to answer.

                    They will read this “insanity” when they forget about your grandchildren.
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 4 March 2018 01: 39
                      +8
                      I didn’t drink vodka with you and I hope I won’t have to. Such as you "sausage" emigrants can and will read it, we do not. As for memory, may Russia be magnified, may our names disappear. Is this familiar? Although unlikely.
                    2. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 4 March 2018 01: 44
                      +6
                      And what did this senile specifically do for his country? Wash water? Mind is not necessary. It is strange that this pro-Ukrainian Odessa resides in Russia, feeds here, and crap here.
                  2. vasya.pupkin
                    vasya.pupkin 4 March 2018 12: 31
                    +3
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Well, to bring the old senile Jew as evidence - this is your sink, there is really nothing to answer.

                    I don’t agree. This is a cunning Jew, far from a senile, but a railway driver! I distinguish the Jews I respect from the railroads by their ingenuity. He is from Odessa, has a luxurious apartment there and makes good money in Russia. I once respected him very much and had almost all the concert recordings on the "bobbins", but after May 2nd of the 14th, I hated him. As I said in. and. Lenin is a "political prostitute"!
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 4 March 2018 21: 45
                      +5
                      I agree, a Jew and a senile mutually exclusive concepts.
              2. mvg
                mvg 3 March 2018 23: 04
                +1
                Good. They write that there is one side. Not reliable. But the situation is very reminiscent of the word "Caliber". As soon as the article contains Caliber or Khibin, or, God forbid, Rubella .. then immediately a "fat plus".
                Not yet flying Sarmatia, a hypothetical Octopus, a Dagger, 2 dozen Caliber fighters who did not pass the GIS, in the amount of 2 pieces and all: "Tremble America, and common sense."
                And two sides of the Su-57 in Syria, this is generally the finish. (Glushakov is a funeral) And no one even suggested that nothing could be tested in 2 days, but, most likely, "imperfections" were discovered and sent for correction.
            2. Operator
              Operator 4 March 2018 12: 43
              +1
              mvg
              You have some special IQ - you are not able to distinguish the “Dagger” from the “Dagger” laughing
              1. mvg
                mvg 4 March 2018 13: 43
                0
                I am not good with knives, I understand so much that the machete that the katana is all on one face ...
                Here is a knife for fish and for meat I will distinguish. And I’m supposed to put my own dirk.
                1. Operator
                  Operator 4 March 2018 13: 49
                  +2
                  Then you have a direct road from VO to the culinary site.
          2. mvg
            mvg 3 March 2018 21: 45
            +3
            And you can tell in what areas we are leading in relation to China?
            1. dauria
              dauria 3 March 2018 23: 55
              0
              And you can tell in what areas we are leading in relation to China?


              Our faces are "prettier." laughing People here just forgot that the nuclear monopoly of the states lasted only 4 years. Well, you can not tear yourself away either from the United States or from China.
              1. mvg
                mvg 4 March 2018 02: 03
                +1
                Well, more or less right. If 5-10 people begin to train in one group, from the master of sports to the green beginner, then in a year or two, that's all, about the same level .. plus or minus crumbs ..
                All developed countries will catch up, where they can not mentally, then steal.
                An example of Kazakhstan, China, India .. very soon, China will be the trendsetter in many areas. From space to the highest military technology.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 4 March 2018 12: 17
                  0
                  Quote: mvg
                  If 5-10 people begin to train in one group, from the master of sports to the green beginner, then in a year or two, that's all, about the same level .. plus or minus crumbs ..
                  All developed countries will catch up, where they can not mentally, then steal.

                  Only countries with developed fundamental science will catch up. USA, Europe - will catch up, the rest - no.
      4. aleks.29ru
        aleks.29ru 3 March 2018 20: 55
        +2
        Putin: “They didn’t want to listen to us then? Listen now
        Well listen to us ..
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 3 March 2018 17: 16
      +7
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

      The demonstration must be arranged .. For spectacular .. Then the Western partners will rush to negotiations ..
      1. Vlad Petrov
        Vlad Petrov 3 March 2018 17: 50
        +3
        Let's persuade Trump to a peaceful biathlon-class competition to overcome missile defense with our warheads, charge them with fireworks and a goddamn for an example over the ocean. You can of course over the white house.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 02
          +6
          Quote: Vlad Petrov
          Let's persuade Trump to a peaceful biathlon-class competition to overcome missile defense with our warheads, charge them with fireworks and a goddamn for an example over the ocean. You can of course over the white house.

          I am sure that he will not agree, but according to CNN they will say that the competition has passed and the ommerik won .. laughing
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 3 March 2018 18: 20
            +7
            If the United States had such weapons, they would have trampled us into the Stone Age a long time ago. I agree, you need to demonstrate it in action. And so it looks like a bluff.
          2. Partyzan
            Partyzan 3 March 2018 20: 29
            +3
            Quote: Svarog
            and the ommerik won ..

            htosh in vysheboga doubted s
        2. Monos
          Monos 3 March 2018 18: 21
          +2
          Quote: Vlad Petrov
          Let's persuade Trump to a peaceful biathlon-class competition to overcome missile defense with our warheads, charge them with fireworks and a goddamn for an example over the ocean. You can of course over the white house.

          And the sentence is not without meaning ...
    3. Monos
      Monos 3 March 2018 17: 16
      +16
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket in a couple of seconds

      Envy silently. smile
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 3 March 2018 17: 46
        +9
        But he cannot - he has diarrhea. And verbal too ....
    4. Partyzan
      Partyzan 3 March 2018 17: 34
      +16
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      hyper super duper almighty rocket

      envy silently, grow peppers better - you will be healthier
      1. andj61
        andj61 3 March 2018 23: 02
        0
        Quote: Partyzan
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        hyper super duper almighty rocket

        envy silently, grow peppers better - you will be healthier

        Peppers will not work - EEC for Bulgaria quotas for growing Bulgarian bully pepper does not emit! drinks
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 3 March 2018 17: 35
      +16
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      the hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds

      A military cardboard woke up, well, put a NATO missile defense system on its territory and you are provided with a hyper duper. tongue
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 3 March 2018 17: 56
        +12
        They were given a forum, such as warned - it means armed, but they do not appreciate it, wait, time heals. hi Good Saturday evening! smile
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 3 March 2018 18: 02
          +7
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          but they don’t appreciate it, wait

          wait for your mom, wait for your mother good drinks
    6. Andrey K
      Andrey K 3 March 2018 18: 00
      +12
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      ... a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :))) ...

      According to the rules of the site, flood is prohibited.
      Do you have something to say on the topic of the article?
    7. Saburov
      Saburov 3 March 2018 20: 05
      +4
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))


      As long as there are fools in the world,
      By deception, we live, therefore, with our hands.
      What a blue sky
      We are not supporters of robbery:
      A fool not need a knife,
      You’re lying to him from three baskets -
      And do with it what you want!

      Yours!
      1. romandostalo
        romandostalo 3 March 2018 20: 20
        +1
        All this is good, if true. As they said: an optimist is a well-informed pessimist, I personally am a little confused by the phrase: "with reference to a military-diplomatic source" ..... It is very vague ....
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 3 March 2018 21: 30
          0
          Quote: romandostalo
          As they said: an optimist is a well-informed pessimist,

          As they said: an optimist is a BAD informed pessimist,
          1. karish
            karish 3 March 2018 21: 31
            +1
            Quote: Setrac
            Quote: romandostalo
            As they said: an optimist is a well-informed pessimist,

            As they said: an optimist is a BAD informed pessimist,

            generally always said
            A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 3 March 2018 22: 32
              0
              Quote: karish
              A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.

              From a change of place ...
              I leash tweaked a phrase to the wrong saying romandostalo
              1. karish
                karish 3 March 2018 22: 50
                +2
                Quote: Setrac
                Quote: karish
                A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.

                From the change of place of the terms... .
                I leash tweaked a phrase to the wrong saying romandostalo

                changing and how

                7/11/14
                12:01 am
                Hussar
                If I had a horse, it would be a number. If the horse had me, I probably would have died.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 3 March 2018 22: 51
                  0
                  Quote: karish
                  changing and how

                  Are you from Odessa?
                  1. karish
                    karish 3 March 2018 22: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Setrac
                    Quote: karish
                    changing and how

                    Are you from Odessa?

                    Why did you decide that? belay
    8. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 3 March 2018 20: 39
      +1
      20 mach .. 24 thousand kilometers per hour the speed of this weapon. Like Perun, the old Russian god (the name Perun has the meaning of “striking, striking, smashing (thunder and lightning)”) will strike the adversary with inevitable lightning! WEAPON RETURNS RUSSIA.
    9. siberalt
      siberalt 3 March 2018 20: 43
      0
      They say while foreign media, and political scientists. But what did the hegemon or NATO leaders swallow languages, or is there nothing to say? request
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 22: 29
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        They say while foreign media, and political scientists. But what did the hegemon or NATO leaders swallow languages, or is there nothing to say? request

        And what have these prototypes changed for them? The Russian Federation and today can destroy the USA and Europe.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 3 March 2018 23: 10
          +5
          For prototypes proofs bring? And you have already heard from you "completely destroyed Syrian air defense."
    10. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 3 March 2018 22: 54
      +5
      Your screams and sinks are counted. Does the case have something to say? Or will you be offended to live like that?
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    12. andj61
      andj61 3 March 2018 22: 59
      0
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

      The hyper-super-duper Bulgarian missile remains at its launcher: during the time that has passed since the collapse of the Warsaw Pact organization, Soviet missiles are hopelessly outdated, they have expired, specialists trained in the USSR have long retired, and nothing new is expected . And the current Thracian warriors from Bulgaria, as well as more than 2000 years ago, during the time of Spartacus, will fight with knives. Or, at worst, unlicensed Kalash illegally produced in Bulgaria. bully
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    14. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 4 March 2018 04: 25
      0
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

      It is clearly said: on combat duty. In the know, what is combat duty?
      We’ll get to the moon, the striped rifle is still confused underfoot, it is a hindrance.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 March 2018 17: 11
    +7
    It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
    But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ... laughing
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 17: 23
      +17
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
      But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ... laughing

      In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president. Their general message is the following: in the presence of mutual deterrent nuclear potential, new missiles do little to change, since they are not suitable for small wars, and only a suicide can start a nuclear war. However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 3 March 2018 17: 31
        +16
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
        But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ... laughing

        In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president. Their general message is the following: in the presence of mutual deterrent nuclear potential, new missiles do little to change, since they are not suitable for small wars, and only a suicide can start a nuclear war. However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

        Well, there have never been technological contracts either .. and as for finances, they have also been limited for a long time .. Yes, and to the account of suicides, with such things they may not have time to answer laughing
        Israel must go to Moscow more often .. time to change shoes laughing
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 17: 33
          +1
          Quote: Svarog

          Well, there have never been technological contracts either .. and as for finances, they have also been limited for a long time .. Yes, and to the account of suicides, with such things they may not have time to answer laughing

          Yes of course.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 3 March 2018 17: 34
            +6
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Svarog

            Well, there have never been technological contracts either .. and as for finances, they have also been limited for a long time .. Yes, and to the account of suicides, with such things they may not have time to answer laughing

            Yes of course.

            Can you name at least one? laughing Opel did not give to buy this and that winked
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 17: 39
              +5
              Quote: Svarog

              Can you name at least one? laughing Opel did not give to buy this and that winked

              Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.
              1. ML-334
                ML-334 3 March 2018 18: 05
                +8
                Something our boys, under the star of David, got nervous. Why would it be? Where is the feeling of superiority? Do not you think that nature is behind us?
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 19: 01
                  +4
                  Quote: ML-334
                  Something our boys, under the star of David, got nervous. Why would it be? Where is the feeling of superiority? Do not you think that nature is behind us?

                  I did not understand, in your opinion, any discrepancy with the point of view prevailing on the forum does this mean to be nervous?
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 27
                    +5
                    It certainly was an irony.
                    But animal Russophobia and complete contempt for Russia and especially Russian from all of you can be seen with the naked eye.
                    Especially vividly and viciously boils at the mention of the successes of Russia.
                    Well, yes, we all know this, and remember.
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 19: 56
                      +5
                      Quote: Mestny
                      It certainly was an irony.
                      But animal Russophobia and complete contempt for Russia and especially Russian from all of you can be seen with the naked eye.
                      Especially vividly and viciously boils at the mention of the successes of Russia.
                      Well, yes, we all know this, and remember.

                      You will not be offended if I do not answer such nonsense?
                  2. ML-334
                    ML-334 3 March 2018 20: 03
                    +2
                    Maybe it was just the “chosen” and the “exceptional” that the idea was to convey that everyone walks under God in a milder form and Russia is no longer a whipping boy. The tone of the comment has changed for you, that's why I noticed.
                2. karish
                  karish 3 March 2018 19: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: ML-334
                  Do not you think that nature is behind us?

                  And what is the slogan
                  -We are Russian God with us ---- is not enough? belay
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 28
                    +8
                    This is the slogan of your failed pupil, Hitler.
                  2. ML-334
                    ML-334 3 March 2018 20: 07
                    +1
                    There are too many matches, Israel does not notice?
                    1. karish
                      karish 3 March 2018 20: 11
                      0
                      Quote: ML-334
                      Coincidences too much, Israel does not notice?

                      Today +25
                      Quote: ML-334
                      Gazka is not necessary

                      If only Freon 22 or 134 - it's hot. laughing
                      1. ML-334
                        ML-334 3 March 2018 20: 23
                        0
                        It’s a pity, but it was just the surplus that appeared, to whom to get involved. As you are unlucky, Africa also sweeps it, but at least henna!
                  3. shans2
                    shans2 3 March 2018 20: 21
                    +5
                    "We are Russians, what a delight!" (C) - Suvorov


                    in Russia it’s customary to say to say “Well, with God” ... and not God with us .....
              2. Svarog
                Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 07
                +4
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                Quote: Svarog

                Can you name at least one? laughing Opel did not give to buy this and that winked

                Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

                In the West imported technology? laughing no did not know laughing I won’t tell you about the news .. and in general, what you are talking about is not technology, but the production of certain components that we don’t have .. and there is just all the technology .. I must say, we have very little production. But I hope with the filing of our sworn partners, we’ll begin to move in this direction ..
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 19: 26
                  0
                  Quote: Svarog

                  In the West imported technology? :

                  Read.
                  https://dvizhok.su/parts/myi-razobrali-lada-vesta
                  -iz-chego-i-kak-ona-sdelana
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 3 March 2018 19: 43
                    +5
                    Aron, once again, and in the superjet and in the West is full of spare parts from foreign manufacturers. But we know the production technology of these parts, well, at least, if there is an irresistible desire to produce them, I’m sure they will. And some really serious technologies were never given to us and they weren’t allowed to take them to the shot.
                2. mvg
                  mvg 3 March 2018 19: 51
                  0
                  Sorry, but whose engine is on the West? What about the transmission? Probably Russians, as they are trying to do in Russia?
              3. vovanpain
                vovanpain 3 March 2018 18: 11
                +10
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate

                Aaron hi Do you think that Russia can be kicked endlessly, watered with slops, crushed by sanctions and not get anything back? request They endured for a long time, oh, how long, you yourself know how many concerns expressed by our leadership were expressed and what passions were at least boiling in VO, sorry Aron how much you can endure rudeness. request This does not apply to you, you are a respected colleague at VO, you must understand that the rudeness of the leadership of the United States and NATO has borders. hi
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                In the US, most leading media outlets reacted quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president

                Media is the media, who pays the media and orders the music, but the leadership of the United States and NATO, and yours is also told your word, the smart ones will understand, but whoever likes to show off will continue to drive show off. Regards Aron! hi
              4. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 18: 54
                +5
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                Quote: Svarog

                Can you name at least one? laughing Opel did not give to buy this and that winked

                Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

                recourse recourse but nitsche that they use our periodic table ??? what laughing laughing
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 3 March 2018 19: 03
                  +3
                  Quote: Nikolai Grek
                  Quote: Aaron Zawi
                  Quote: Svarog

                  Can you name at least one? laughing Opel did not give to buy this and that winked

                  Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

                  recourse recourse but nitsche that they use our periodic table ??? what laughing laughing

                  Here! It would be no matter how monetize .. And then the Americans have patents for everything, patent and let them pay laughing
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 19: 18
                    0
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Quote: Nikolai Grek
                    Quote: Aaron Zawi
                    Quote: Svarog

                    Can you name at least one? laughing Opel did not give to buy this and that winked

                    Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

                    recourse recourse but nitsche that they use our periodic table ??? what laughing laughing

                    Here! It would be no matter how monetize .. And then the Americans have patents for everything, patent and let them pay laughing

                    recourse recourse what American patent do we build Vesta or SuperJet on? Is it really a "patent" for aerodynamics or a "law" of motion ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 3 March 2018 19: 23
                      +3
                      Quote: Nikolai Grek
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Quote: Nikolai Grek
                      Quote: Aaron Zawi
                      Quote: Svarog

                      Can you name at least one? laughing Opel did not give to buy this and that winked

                      Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

                      recourse recourse but nitsche that they use our periodic table ??? what laughing laughing

                      Here! It would be no matter how monetize .. And then the Americans have patents for everything, patent and let them pay laughing

                      recourse recourse what American patent do we cost Vesta or SuperJet ??? Is it really a "patent" for aerodynamics or a "law" of motion ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

                      Is it you me or Arona laughing Understand saturday laughing
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 19: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Is that me or Arona I understand Saturday

                        yes uzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh, sorry ... even though your opuses about rockets and regularity look at the level of Aronovsky opuses, but nevertheless in this case the error came out !!! drinks drinks lol
      2. Russia
        Russia 3 March 2018 17: 35
        +9
        So everything was calculated and declared in the first person.
      3. Partyzan
        Partyzan 3 March 2018 17: 47
        +5
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        however, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

        Aaron hi tell me, and much more restrict, further, so to speak restriction, will lead to complete confrontation, and do you really think that Russia will look at it silently? yes, they will refrain from nuclear strikes, but there will be no nuclear direct clashes, Putin made it clear by his message that they won’t wipe their feet more on Russia, but if he doesn’t keep this promise, the number of supporters of the fifth column will increase sharply, and they could demolish it, this west will make a choice request
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 17: 57
          +2
          Quote: Partyzan

          Aaron hi tell me, and much more restrict, further, so to speak restriction, will lead to complete confrontation, and do you really think that Russia will look at it silently? yes, they will refrain from nuclear strikes, but there will be no nuclear direct clashes, Putin made it clear by his message that they won’t wipe their feet more on Russia, but if he doesn’t keep this promise, the number of supporters of the fifth column will increase sharply, and they could demolish it, this west will make a choice request
          Well, banks can, for example, stop insuring any investments in the Russian Federation, including any joint projects.
          I honestly don’t quite understand what non-nuclear collisions mean? Where? In Syria and Ukraine? Well, maybe. This is even curious.
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 3 March 2018 18: 09
            +4
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Well, banks can, for example, stop insuring any investments in the Russian Federation, including any joint projects.

            there are practically none of them already, the same banks do not want to be sanctioned because they see how their political leaders react to this, and I hope you do not need to remind them of what striped can do - Deutsche Bank?
          2. Operator
            Operator 3 March 2018 21: 16
            +1
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            banks may for example stop insuring any investments in the Russian Federation

            If Western banks stop insuring investments in Russia, they will be insured by Chinese or Russian banks.

            In addition, Russia generally can do without Western investments (money investments) - it needs the missing (so far) technologies first of all, and it can invest in them from its own or Chinese means (see the Soviet industrialization of the 1930's).
            1. karish
              karish 3 March 2018 21: 29
              0
              Quote: Operator
              If Western banks stop insuring investments in Russia, they will be insured by Chinese or Russian banks.

              The Chinese will not, and in this case, they are not reliable for Russian insurance
              Quote: Operator
              In addition, Russia in general can do without Western investment (investment)

              Of course he can.
              Due to internal reserves.
              Well, for example, over the next couple of years, the NWF will finish completely. Well, the same pension.
              Quote: Operator
              first of all, she needs the missing technologies (so far), and she can invest in them from her or Chinese funds

              Can Russia invest from Chinese funds? What is it like ? belay
              And who will sell the technology?
              1. Operator
                Operator 3 March 2018 22: 03
                +1
                First, admit that you were mistaken, for some reason starting a conversation about investment insurance, and then I will answer your questions "where to get money for investments" and "who will sell the technology."
                1. karish
                  karish 3 March 2018 22: 21
                  0
                  Quote: Operator
                  First admit that you were mistaken, for some reason starting a conversation about investment insurance

                  And without insurance no one invests
                  Quote: Operator
                  "where to get money for investment"

                  where
                  Quote: Operator
                  "who will sell the technology."

                  who?
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 3 March 2018 23: 15
                    +4
                    To be interesting, the article is not for Israel, but the evil Jews were horrified? Sick of you sick?
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 23: 45
                      0
                      Quote: Okolotochny
                      To be interesting, the article is not for Israel, but the evil Jews were horrified? Sick of you sick?

                      Evening, Shabbat. Interesting topic. Why not?
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 3 March 2018 20: 45
        0
        Yeah. They will also compensate for the sanctions. lol
      5. Operator
        Operator 3 March 2018 21: 11
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        In the United States, most leading media outlets reacted quite calmly.

        A minority of leading US media, therefore, fell into hysteria and diarrhea laughing

        Read less waste paper and listen more to statements by official representatives of the Presidential Administration, the US Department of Defense and the US Department of State - they stated the following:
        - we have long been aware of the presence of the Russian “Vanguard”, “Dagger”, an underwater drone and an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant;
        - The Russians never had a Vanguard, a Dagger, an underwater drone and an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant.

        After this, the stupor that the US leadership at all levels fell into and the break in their logic actually confirms the presence of all the declared types of weapons in the Russian Federation becomes clear.
      6. Setrac
        Setrac 3 March 2018 21: 31
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

        And before that they were limitless? All non-military methods that could be used against us have already been applied.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 3 March 2018 23: 47
          0
          Quote: Setrac

          And before that they were limitless? All non-military methods that could be used against us have already been applied.

          I think the serious ones have not even begun.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 3 March 2018 23: 54
            0
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            I think the serious ones have not even begun.

            For example??
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 4 March 2018 00: 35
              +1
              Quote: Setrac
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              I think the serious ones have not even begun.

              For example??

              Restrictions on the purchase of Russian hydrocarbons.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 4 March 2018 12: 10
                0
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Restrictions on the purchase of Russian hydrocarbons.

                I always liked your national humor.
                Everything is somewhat different if Russia suddenly stops exporting raw materials - a war will immediately begin against it, and the whole world will be against us. The West needs our raw materials, Russia does not need its export.
      7. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 4 March 2018 05: 53
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president.

        Demarche? laughing Well, demarche is so demarche. "..in limiting financial and technological contacts ..".
        “Damn, where is my financial and technological contacts with America?” The Russian population was thoughtful.
        We’ll get by with telephones, telephones and Sino-Korean, bucks are also somehow not ice anymore, Windows have been broken for a long time.
        Ah, comrades from the government are waiting for a magical investment. Maybe fuck the government for a couple with America?
    2. Ierarh
      Ierarh 3 March 2018 17: 31
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
      But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ... laughing


      Then there was no fifth column. Chubais and others. Say Putin can not cope with them? But the people gave the right to this. So what happened?
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 3 March 2018 17: 39
        +6
        a good election move when everything is in the hands ... the rivals seem naked ...
        1. karish
          karish 3 March 2018 17: 55
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          a good election move when everything is in hand.

          reminded
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 09
          +5
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          a good election move when everything is in the hands ... the rivals seem naked ...

          And laughter and sin ..
        3. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 3 March 2018 18: 58
          +3
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          a good election move when everything is in the hands ... the rivals seem naked ...

          link to the site with this photo can ??? repeat repeat
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 30
        -1
        We read carefully.
        Here admiration for comparison with the times of the USSR is just expressed. Not a 5 column. Chubais apparently did not interfere.
        Or ... or, is all this done contrary to the bloody dictator?
        1. Ierarh
          Ierarh 3 March 2018 19: 32
          +1
          And now they have been interfering for many years? Or are there other reasons?
          1. Ierarh
            Ierarh 3 March 2018 19: 37
            +3
            By the way, I won’t be surprised if, after the succession of the elections and the throwing of bonnets, all this will sink into oblivion ....
            1. romandostalo
              romandostalo 3 March 2018 20: 24
              +1
              Aaron, there’s such a thing that it’s possible that something else will come up about the ABM ......
  3. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 3 March 2018 17: 11
    +9
    You don’t even have to sit at the negotiating table, they know well. Gradually, it will reach them.
    1. marsel1524
      marsel1524 3 March 2018 17: 14
      +3
      still no, the time has come: slippers in the mouth and a bow to the Most Serene. Remember the president’s decree to dispose of plutonium? Here is his teeth and forward on his hind legs.
      1. shans2
        shans2 3 March 2018 20: 26
        +3
        who does not remember, I will remind it the most, an ultimatum ...
    2. MadCat
      MadCat 3 March 2018 17: 20
      +6
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      You don’t even have to sit at the negotiating table, they know well. Gradually, it will reach them.

      and what has changed? Well, a couple of prototypes of new toys have appeared, is Russia going to use them? Armageddon arrange? In Soviet times, I remember America was not afraid to impose sanctions, why would they suddenly make concessions now?
      1. marsel1524
        marsel1524 3 March 2018 17: 29
        +3
        It seems to me that the situation is comparable to August 45, when the Yankees have a bomb, but we do not have it. The point is not that it is afraid to apply or not, but that there is no protection against it, and who needs to understand this. And now they have one way to sit down and negotiate.
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 3 March 2018 18: 20
          +6
          Quote: marsel1524
          And now they have one way to sit down and negotiate.

          or just sit down, on command
      2. Russia
        Russia 3 March 2018 17: 30
        +14
        Oh, another fly (MadCat) flew in, "daughter of an officer." laughing
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 3 March 2018 18: 24
          +4
          Quote: Rusland
          Oh, another fly (MadCat) flew in, "daughter of an officer." laughing

          Another pinched tail pinched? sit and do not shine while the adults are talking. lol
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 3 March 2018 18: 30
            +13
            Quote: MadCat
            sit and do not shine while the adults are talking.

            Rude is not necessary an adult. yes
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 38
              +4
              Calm.
              These citizens do not read articles; they have one mantra about "all is lost" and bad Putin.
              Another little effort, and such will begin to drive from everywhere. Already really fed up - neither rhetoric nor arguments change.
              Howl without a spark.
          2. Russia
            Russia 3 March 2018 19: 18
            +8
            No (MadCat), I think you would be disappointed if the babies saw me. wink
      3. Fedorov
        Fedorov 3 March 2018 17: 37
        +11
        It has changed that the missile defense system is mattress, a bunch of roach and years of development can be lowered into the toilet.
        They will not make concessions, but US psychiatrists will not be left without work for sure.
        Well, how can you serve, if you know - there is no protection, it can get out of nowhere and no one will even warn you that there would be a prayer, for example ...
        1. Operator
          Operator 3 March 2018 21: 27
          0
          That's right - everyone somehow forgets that two parties are participating in the arms race in the United States: the Government (payer) and the military-industrial complex (money recipient).

          For the military-industrial complex, everything will be in chocolate.

          But for the Government, the situation looks superhero: for a quarter of a century, about 15 trillion dollars of taxpayers have been invested in the US military potential, and Russia, with the help of penny costs, has reset them all. You can, of course, invest another hundred trillion dollars before 2050, but where is the guarantee that Russia will not reset them again with the help of new (again, cheap) weapons.

          In any case, for the United States this is a direct path to economic bankruptcy - the share of spending on new types of weapons in their budget will be two orders of magnitude higher than the share of military spending in the budget of the Russian Federation, despite the fact that budgets differ by only an order of magnitude.
  4. Maz
    Maz 3 March 2018 17: 13
    +7
    laughing It is necessary to put this nuclear engine on a spaceship, and preferably two, for insurance. And fly through the solar system. And on the Moon there is a bus station for minibuses, sho go to Mars and Venus to drive off. Let your elbows bite your chosen and special. But this is no longer a joke. We can quite grab the whole ecliptic from Mercury to Pluto inclusive! It is urgent to write a law on new lands, their affiliation, the priority of the discoverers and to land troops. laughing and these, with their God, let them poke around here. The lesson of Alaska we will not forget. Not an inch of ecliptic land for sale. Make the moon a special international zone.
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 3 March 2018 17: 22
      +5
      This is impossible, because the device is heavier than air, cannot fly! And if it takes off, with God's help, it will crash against the firmament of heaven!
    2. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 17: 23
      0
      Rename the Moon to New Russia, Mars to Alaska, Venus to California ...
      Only no offense partners .. This is all our territory, and you are only tenants ... nonsense ...
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 3 March 2018 17: 35
        0
        Read Oleg Divov's "Profession Inquisitor" he has everything for you! I highly recommend it! You will not regret!
    3. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 3 March 2018 17: 33
      0
      Quote: Maz
      It is necessary to put this nuclear engine on a spaceship

      For some reason, it seems to me that they will do so soon. To accelerate and put into orbit a pulsed engine, and then a nuclear one. But the assembly shop still needs to be created in orbit before that.
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 17: 41
        +2
        yeah ...
        and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..
        1. Partyzan
          Partyzan 3 March 2018 18: 25
          +3
          Quote: Ace of Diamonds
          and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..

          soram - Do you have any idea what a closed-type nuclear engine is to push into a pipe 30 cm in diameter? and if it was done for armament, consumables, then this is not economically stressful, well, now you stick it in?
          1. Ace Tambourine
            Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 18: 56
            +3
            Read more carefully the primary sources ...
            Ramjet engine ....
            After what time will we bend everything after launching in the atmosphere of at least one such stray?
            1. Partyzan
              Partyzan 3 March 2018 19: 12
              +3
              Quote: Ace Tambourine
              Read more carefully the primary sources ...
              Ramjet engine ....
              After what time will we bend everything after launching in the atmosphere of at least one such stray?

              I don’t know, your source looked at the message, though he thought he would send it further, but the nuclear nuclear engine converts thermal energy, and it’s closed
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 3 March 2018 21: 35
          +1
          Quote: Ace of Diamonds
          yeah ...
          and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..

          Everything is exactly the opposite, a nuclear power plant will reduce the cost of space flights by orders of magnitude.
  5. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 3 March 2018 17: 22
    +3
    Our engineers work wonders. As for the bourgeois countries ... as the saying goes: "God did not give horns to a vigorous cow." It is scary to imagine if, for example, mattress engineers invented similar weapons before ours.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 17: 30
      +1
      we wouldn’t even know about it ...
      and what a need for knowledge for the dead ...
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 3 March 2018 21: 36
      0
      Quote: Alex-a832
      It is scary to imagine if, for example, mattress engineers invented similar weapons before ours.

      Why would inventions wake up in mattresses?
  6. Fedorov
    Fedorov 3 March 2018 17: 23
    +1
    Well, RT is the state cantor, respectively, and the "source" is the same .... But if everything is true ..
    This is what level of secrecy should have been in development and testing. request that even the mattresses profiled, although for two years infa type "broke through". But no one believed.
    Well done good
    Accordingly, the Liana space reconnaissance and target designation system is operating at full capacity, and not only in the pilot duty mode ... I hope.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 3 March 2018 18: 38
      +1
      Quote: Fedorov
      Well this is what level of secrecy should have been in the development and testing of the request, that even the mattresses have profiled, although for two years infa type "broke through". But no one believed.
      Well done

      Based on the statues in the yellow press, do you claim that the Americans knew nothing? this is too brilliant conclusion. laughing
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 40
        0
        Even if they knew - what does this change in the message about the start of mass production of this type of weapons in our country.
        I emphasize - serial.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 3 March 2018 19: 00
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      that even the mattress mattresses profiled, although for two years infa type "broke through". But no one believed.

      Come on. For four years, American media have been trumpeting that the Russians and the Chinese have bypassed them in hypersound
  7. Ivan.A
    Ivan.A 3 March 2018 17: 26
    +1
    Good news. A good argument for pressure on the Anglo-Saxons. Not negotiations, but pressure. It is time for us to tell them how to live on Mother Earth.
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 3 March 2018 17: 27
    +3
    In my opinion, Putin made his televised debates absolutely senseless with his speech, and sent competitors out! Now there are "little things" to do, to really deal with corruption, and the economy! Corruption must be tackled with the return of the death penalty, and the economy with the nationalization of the Central Bank and the resignation of the Vedmedev and Nabibulin.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 17: 31
      +4
      Yes, at least to return the confiscation ... it’s worse for them than the wall ..
    2. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 3 March 2018 17: 35
      +10
      Men, I will say so, I don’t know anything about the avant-garde (I’m sure, like anyone on this site), but as for the dagger, I’ll say the following: until March 1, I didn’t hear about him, but after the president voiced it was terrible how interesting. He called the kashnik from 31x, his answer stunned me - he is and is being tested. Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 3 March 2018 17: 38
        +4
        At the moment, we have one side under it, but the dough is poured into it without sparing, so at least one of the types of weapons announced by the GDP exists in real life, we will keep our fingers crossed so that the tests are successful and this miraculous complex really goes into troops
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 3 March 2018 18: 05
          +2
          Quote: Rushnairfors
          At the moment, we have one side under it,

          As an experiment with one old Mig-31 board as a carrier, yes. But you are a military man, you understand that this is a huge distance from a real product with advertised characteristics to the troops.
          1. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 3 March 2018 18: 38
            +4
            I completely agree with you on this. But at least not everything that fairy tales tell us is happy
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 42
        0
        Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this

        They didn’t say that. They said that on HBS.
      3. Sergei1982
        Sergei1982 4 March 2018 08: 14
        0
        Quote: Rushnairfors
        He called the kashnik from 31x, his answer stunned me - he is and is being tested. Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this

        Then what is the meaning of the X-32? Or the speed and ceiling of the Tu-22M3 do not allow to realize everything that the Dagger and MiG-31 can do better for this. In general, it turns out that everything that the GDP said is true to one degree or another. In favor of the KR version with YaSU, it is said that two SKIPs were taken out of storage (they were in the LII since 1995), they were restored, modernized and given to the RFNC.
  9. tchoni
    tchoni 3 March 2018 17: 32
    +3
    Russia has the newest avant-garde hypersonic strategic complex. Russia has a "Dagger" and other ultra-modern weapons systems, which Putin said. And high-precision weapons of the new generation are already on combat duty

    I don’t know what we have .... So far, everyone has seen only cartoons)
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 3 March 2018 17: 41
      +7
      Quote: tchoni
      I don’t know what we have .... So far, everyone has seen only cartoons

      Also galleries Tatar, type I will not believe until I check? I’m definitely a Tatar, but I believed right away, at such a level they don’t lie about this, it’s not about “raising pensions”, which they just remember before the elections ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 12
        +7
        Quote: Tartar 174
        Quote: tchoni
        I don’t know what we have .... So far, everyone has seen only cartoons

        Also galleries Tatar, type I will not believe until I check? I’m definitely a Tatar, but I believed right away, at such a level they don’t lie about this, it’s not about “raising pensions”, which they just remember before the elections ...

        There may be a half-truth .. developments are underway, there are successes, but it will take years to introduce into the series .. Personally, I would be glad if this is true .. but I also have doubts ..
      2. tchoni
        tchoni 3 March 2018 19: 05
        +3
        Quote: Tatar 174
        Also galleries Tatar, type I will not believe until I check?

        Which one. Even with a khokhlyatsky bias wink But, this ha south of Russia does not surprise anyone)))
        Quote: Tatar 174
        I’m definitely a Tatar, but I believed right away, at such a level they don’t lie about this, uh

        From what!? The president is a politician - but for a politician to lie and not negotiate is like breathing. About the "armature" they lied. They promised at 15 to the troops ... And in fact, only to the 20th mu and then the battle kit.
  10. Jerk
    Jerk 3 March 2018 17: 37
    +1
    Yes, this is hyper-blubber. Sa-avsem is not mythological (in the sense of not existing) railgun. I think that the coolest thing they’re shooting right now is not in Germany, but in the USA, specifically in the CIA and instead of “I-I” it says “Overslept! Overslept !!!”
  11. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 3 March 2018 17: 46
    0
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

    Very funny! Although you have a discount ...
  12. Samara_63
    Samara_63 3 March 2018 17: 48
    0
    With a population density in the USA ... this is an irreparable loss of 100% ... the Yankees will simply be destroyed ...
  13. Ivan.A
    Ivan.A 3 March 2018 17: 49
    +3
    Quote: hrych
    That's exactly what drinks are. They threw all their strength and money at Aegis and Stealth, and the Dark Lord did fantastic things. By the way, they are not so fantastic, all within the framework of progress. But Hegemon is no longer Hegemon, but so second-rate power wassat

    To my deep regret, in addition to the Stealth and Aegis, they still have $, they can still dictate their financial benefits to the whole world request
  14. faiver
    faiver 3 March 2018 17: 50
    +4
    It sounds beautiful, but apart from words and cartoons I haven’t seen anything yet ....
  15. Odysseus
    Odysseus 3 March 2018 17: 53
    +5
    Brilliantly. There is only one small problem. The West, to which they appeal so invitingly and desperately, well, talk to us, well, sit down at the negotiating table, well, please .... for some reason, you won’t heed so many touching calls, but replies that these calls “negate discussion between the West and the Russian Federation on a number of issues ”
    How so ? What could have gone wrong here? smile
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 44
      +1
      Nobody appeals to him invitingly and desperately.
      Last warning. This is a little different.
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  16. kaserog
    kaserog 3 March 2018 17: 54
    +2
    Quote: Jerk
    Yes, this is hyper-blubber. Sa-avsem is not mythological (in the sense of not existing) railgun. I think that the coolest thing they’re shooting right now is not in Germany, but in the USA, specifically in the CIA and instead of “I-I” it says “Overslept! Overslept !!!”

    in the middle of P to P change wink
  17. lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 March 2018 17: 57
    +3
    Strategic complex "Vanguard"


    it’s even scary to imagine what characteristics a weapon capable of intercepting a warhead rushing towards a target at a speed of under 21 thousand kilometers per hour (about 20 max) should be possessed while intensively maneuvering.
    It looks like the arms race really ended for the next several decades on March 1, 2018.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 18: 06
      +4
      I want to disappoint you ...
      The whole secret of the magic bubbles is that Garant’s PR managers foolishly messed up the dates, and this appeal was to take place on April 1, and not on March 1 ...
      Striped !!
      You can exhale ...
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 3 March 2018 18: 24
        +3
        Quote: Ace of Diamonds
        I want to disappoint you


        continue to reassure yourself that the USA is ahead and that you have chosen the right star-striped ass for kissing. Even your overseas owners have believed and are rushing hysterically over a colorless house.
    2. tchoni
      tchoni 4 March 2018 08: 11
      0
      Quote: lopvlad
      Strategic complex "Vanguard"


      it’s even scary to imagine what characteristics a weapon capable of intercepting a warhead rushing towards a target at a speed of under 21 thousand kilometers per hour (about 20 max) should be possessed while intensively maneuvering.
      It looks like the arms race really ended for the next several decades on March 1, 2018.

      roughly like rim161
      On February 21, 2008, the SM-3 rocket was launched from the Lake Erie cruiser in the Pacific Ocean and three minutes after the launch [16] it was hit by a USA-247 emergency reconnaissance satellite located at an altitude of 193 kilometers, moving at a speed of 7 m / s [ 580] (17 km / h).
      quote from wikipedia.
      In the ten years that we will need to put into service all this cartoonish grace, guys from the United States will deploy a dozen more positional areas, and those Sarmatian gliders will simply have nowhere to fly.
      So the guarantor can safely be given the title of honorary citizen of the United States for his enormous contribution to the development of the industrial and defense potential of this country
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 4 March 2018 12: 22
        +1
        Quote: tchoni
        On February 21, 2008, the SM-3 rocket was launched from the Lake Erie cruiser in the Pacific Ocean and three minutes after the launch [16] it was hit by a USA-247 emergency reconnaissance satellite located at an altitude of 193 kilometers, moving at a speed of 7 m / s [ 580] (17 km / h).

        SM-3 have a kinetic warhead and can only hit non-maneuvering ballistic targets.
  18. leon1204id
    leon1204id 3 March 2018 18: 03
    +1
    Infa little, the most brief description and sensible: http: //fb.ru/article/165641/raketa-rs-ru
    bej-avangard-tehnicheskie-harakteristiki-i-foto
    Range 6000 km maximum. So the planning head falls further. Actually with the first space speed of about 8000km / h. It is not clear to the end whether it is controlled or is it using the firmware?
    Well, we have experience, the same and Buran So, which is very likely. Yes, and worked on this sooooo long, and told before the election. wink
  19. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 3 March 2018 18: 05
    +4
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
    But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ... laughing

    In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president. Their general message is the following: in the presence of mutual deterrent nuclear potential, new missiles do little to change, since they are not suitable for small wars, and only a suicide can start a nuclear war. However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

    This is with some fright then: "... new missiles change little ..." ???
    If they deployed missile defense around the Russian Federation on land, plus numerous naval forces at sea, are they covering Europe? No, Russia is being restrained at long distances! Well, try to hold back hypersound? And how then it turns out that under the water around your allies there is also a lot of "sleeping", so it’s very much changing in our affairs with mattresses ...
  20. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 3 March 2018 18: 09
    +2
    I just don’t understand one thing. If the product flies in a cloud of plasma. how is it controlled, because in this case the radio signals do not pass. During the descent of spacecraft at the stage of entry into the dense layers, communication is lost ... Or do I not understand something?
    1. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 3 March 2018 18: 46
      +4
      All is correct. Oh, and I have doubts about this complex, especially after the announcement of a nuclear engine for a cruise missile, but after all, the Americans already went along this path with the Pluto project already in 1964. And what about the direct-flow engines for supersonic? Loud statements, cartoons and only how Eun does it.
    2. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 3 March 2018 19: 00
      +1
      It develops an algorithm of "behavior", becomes unpredictable for pro, which reduces the ability to bring it down to almost zero ..
  21. lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 March 2018 18: 10
    +2
    Quote: Ace of Diamonds
    I want to disappoint you ...


    Are you the daughter of an officer again? .
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 18: 19
      +3
      Well no...
      Try to imagine a suicide meteorite trying to maneuver on 20 Machs ... Just count the overloads ...
      And it's just a stone, and ento, a rocket, is a rather fragile product ..
      1. Operator
        Operator 3 March 2018 21: 41
        +1
        If you suffer from dementia, then do not use words that you do not understand ("rocket"), as applied to the payload of ICBMs.

        "D. Bily", - S. Lavrov (C)
  22. Aloemc
    Aloemc 3 March 2018 18: 12
    0
    First of all, you need to say thank you not to GDP, but to designers and scientists. Here they are the creators, the homeland should be proud of them.

    We look forward to an early announcement on the introduction of all these "surprises" into mass production.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 51
      +4
      Yes, of course, nothing to do with GDP. This is all the heroes-designers did in the basement, secretly from the bloody thieves' regime, which did not pay them all this time and forced them to vote for Putin.
      Now the heroes of the factory workers will secretly introduce into serial production.
      Well, of course, they all lack freedom, socialism and a new leader.
      1. Aloemc
        Aloemc 4 March 2018 00: 45
        0
        Quote: Mestny
        Yes, of course, nothing to do with GDP. This is all the heroes-designers did in the basement, secretly from the bloody thieves' regime, which did not pay them all this time and forced them to vote for Putin.
        Now the heroes of the factory workers will secretly introduce into serial production.
        Well, of course, they all lack freedom, socialism and a new leader.

        Hmm ... And what about the thieves' regime and the basement? The GDP itself sat and solved the most complicated mathematical and physical problems, came up with new materials. Well ok, what. I understand your logic and your intellect; you may not answer, for it is a pity for you.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 4 March 2018 12: 25
          0
          Quote: AloeMC
          Hmm ... And what about the thieves' regime and the basement? The GDP itself sat and solved the most complicated mathematical and physical problems, came up with new materials.

          Well, for example, did the same Mask also sit in the basement and personally solve the most complicated mathematical and physical problems, come up with new materials, build rockets? Or maybe Beria himself designed the atomic bomb?
  23. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 3 March 2018 18: 12
    +1
    Judging by the reaction of the Western "partners", the Russian technological breakthrough in the missile industry came as a complete surprise to them. Conclusion: Russian intelligence services outplayed the intelligence services of the West. "Trifle", but nice.
  24. keeper03
    keeper03 3 March 2018 18: 13
    +6
    I would make more specific suggestions:
    1) the return of the American contingent of NATO to its permanent deployment in the United States;
    2) the disbandment of US missile defense centers in Europe;
    3) the abolition of the NATO military bloc;
    4) the beginning of the elimination of US military bases around the world.
    This is to start the conversation, so to speak! hi
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 3 March 2018 18: 34
      +5
      Quote: keeper03
      I would make more specific suggestions:
      1) the return of the American contingent of NATO to its permanent deployment in the United States;
      2) the disbandment of US missile defense centers in Europe;
      3) the abolition of the NATO military bloc;
      4) the beginning of the elimination of US military bases around the world.
      This is to start the conversation, so to speak! hi

      It's more like the end of a conversation laughing
    2. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 18: 37
      +7
      let me add another item;
      5) Immediate doubling ... no, tenfold dose of haloperidol to VO commentators.
      Everyone !!!
      1. arlekin
        arlekin 3 March 2018 19: 23
        +3
        Quote: Ace Tambourine
        let me add another item;
        5) Immediate doubling ... no, tenfold dose of haloperidol to VO commentators.
        Everyone !!!

        Well, why are you like this? Yes, let them rejoice, do you feel sorry for something?
        They celebrate Victory, and, judging by the comments, no later than Monday expect surrender of all countries to accept.
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 19: 28
          0
          You are cruel ... laughing
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 3 March 2018 22: 08
        +1
        Quote: Ace Tambourine
        let me add another item;
        5) Immediate doubling ... no, tenfold dose of haloperidol to VO commentators.
        Everyone !!!

        If I am not mistaken, then Ace Tambourine is also a commentator on VO. Active.
        More than others, more exceptional than others, or loves tenfold doses of haloperidol?
    3. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 3 March 2018 18: 53
      +1
      Quote: keeper03
      This is to start the conversation, so to speak! hi

      To start a conversation, you need to at least show this weapon in action, in a training ground and for the whole world, and only then present it. And so they laugh and stigmatize the second Eun.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 3 March 2018 22: 12
        +1
        Quote: Viktor.12.71
        To start a conversation, you need to at least show this weapon in action, in a training ground and for the whole world, and only then present it. And so they laugh and stigmatize the second Eun.

        And what at once Eunom? As far as I remember, in the American SOI, too, besides cartoons, there was nothing and could not be. But in that case, everyone who could only scream that the Americans were good fellows - to breed so stupid Russians from scratch! Che too ..
        1. Viktor.12.71
          Viktor.12.71 3 March 2018 22: 18
          +1
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          SOI

          The Americans had Pluto in 64 years of the 20th century. Now they have an X-37 that has been flying in space for ten years now. This is not cartoons for you. Moreover, how do you imagine the serial production without testing? We spotted the X-37 in space without any problems, if the Vanguard had experienced it, everyone would have known about it and would have shown it on the news, in the age of technology it is very difficult to hide something, especially such projects.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 4 March 2018 11: 36
            0
            These are all details and trifles, because Russia has such a thing as maskirovka and places like the Urals and Siberia, where you can hide a damn bald one if you wish. A "meteorite" in Chelyabinsk, why not the tests of the "Vanguard"? And who knows these wild Russians?
            There is a war going on, and war is a way of deception. Where you are weak - show that you are strong, and where you are strong - show that you are weak. Well, or something like that ...
            1. Viktor.12.71
              Viktor.12.71 5 March 2018 11: 55
              0
              Maybe. If the Vanguard reactor is similar to the American Tori-2C of the year, then the emission of radiation would be enormous, even if launched from Siberia. The most important thing is that during the test this rocket does not burst, then hello irradiation to half of the population of Russia, even an American strike is not necessary.
    4. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 3 March 2018 21: 07
      0
      5) The Return of Alaska
      6) Mexico Returns Occupied Texas
      7) Native Americans return to their ancestral lands
    5. Setrac
      Setrac 3 March 2018 22: 24
      0
      Quote: keeper03
      This is to start the conversation, so to speak!

      That’s why all this is for Russia? Would you like to once again fight with a united Europe?
  25. Ice
    Ice 3 March 2018 18: 13
    +5
    Hooray comrades! It is necessary to "expand the space of freedom" as the leader tells!
    With the help of this super weapon of Putin, it will be possible to finally destroy all the s.
    True ramjet can rocket
    and where the rocket flies will be dead land.
    But these are trifles.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 18: 44
      +4
      These are not trifles at all!
      Unfortunately in VO there are too many USEshny idiots ...
      As an example ...
      Partyzan Today, 18:25 ↑
      Quote: Ace Tambourine
      and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..
      Soram - do you have any idea what a closed-type nuclear engine is to push into a 30 cm diameter pipe? and if it was done for armament, consumables, then this is not economically stressful, well, now you stick it in?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 54
        +1
        Where did you come from such a handsome man that you call decent people with fools?
        Do not like patriotism? Or love, but only when the belly is full and warm in itself?
        So this is familiar to us.
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 20: 01
          +7
          Well no...
          Patriot in general ...
          Yes, only recently I got confused why to patriot;
          For Russia and its people?
          For the oligarchs who hate this people and suffer only as a means of livelihood?
          For the Guarantor who patronizes them?
          For bravura speech instead of specific cases?
          For the fact that we again suck on the old candy in a new wrapper?
          Explain to me, the old fool, I hope then you will become more clear ...
          1. bk316
            bk316 3 March 2018 20: 53
            +3
            Change the record. Well, really, don’t change it - they will replace the software bots. What is the point of the State Department paying you for such hack
    2. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 3 March 2018 18: 54
      +2
      The Americans in 1964 had a Pluto project, with a ready-made nuclear engine. They were smart enough to cover the project.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 54
        +3
        On the contrary.
        Mind was not enough, I had to cover it.
      2. Operator
        Operator 3 March 2018 21: 46
        +1
        Quote: Viktor.12.71
        The Americans in the 1964 year had a Pluto project

        The trick is that the Pluto used an open type nuclear power plant, while the Russian intercontinental cruise missile used a closed one.

        The mind of the American developers was not enough.
        1. Viktor.12.71
          Viktor.12.71 3 March 2018 22: 21
          +1
          Quote: Operator
          intercontinental cruise missile - closed.

          And how do you see it? This is not nuclear powered ships.
          1. Operator
            Operator 3 March 2018 23: 29
            +1
            For example, this way: plutonium oxide is a ceramic that is correctly sintered and is not washed out by liquid heat carrier - lead, which heats the air (and, accordingly, cools) in the propulsion chamber behind the air intake of a supersonic cruise missile.

            The task of pumping the coolant can be solved using a linear electric motor, powered by current from a thermionic converter, made in the form of a shell of the propulsion chamber.

            The problem is only “properly sintered” plutonium oxide. But, apparently, ours decided it.
            1. Yura Yakovlev
              Yura Yakovlev 4 March 2018 05: 00
              0
              Without plutonium oxide, there are many things there. Ceramic sintering technology has long been developed on the skin for Buran
              1. Viktor.12.71
                Viktor.12.71 5 March 2018 11: 58
                +1
                Quote: Yura Yakovlev
                Ceramic sintering technology has long been developed on the skin for Buran

                The Americans in Tori 2C used high-temperature ceramic beryllium oxide to fabricate reactor fuel elements. It was mixed with zirconia (stabilizing additive) and uranium dioxide. In the ceramic company Kursa, the plastic mass was pressed under high pressure, and then sintered. As a result, getting fuel elements. That is, the Tory 2C was fully functional and passed the tests successfully.
                1. Yura Yakovlev
                  Yura Yakovlev 5 March 2018 15: 10
                  0
                  "plastic mass was pressed under high pressure"
                  American db. Slip casting is much simpler, but this is said to be a technical matter.
                  1. Viktor.12.71
                    Viktor.12.71 5 March 2018 17: 29
                    0
                    But I wonder what ours decided with the release of a huge amount of radiation when starting a nuclear engine, which put an end to the American project of the Kyrgyz Republic. If I’m not mistaken under the USSR, the “peaceful atom” projects were also led, but the project also came to a standstill because of the same thing.
                    1. Shahno
                      Shahno 5 March 2018 17: 40
                      0
                      Yes, they didn’t decide anything ... So far, the mass-size equipment for the yard does not correspond to the level of protection for drugs, at the same time as the effectiveness of hitting targets. Well, it does not crawl in LA and in the Kyrgyz Republic so far. There are no technical solutions ... And no propaganda and political statements can solve this.
                    2. Yura Yakovlev
                      Yura Yakovlev 6 March 2018 09: 41
                      0
                      Something fundamentally new, or have overcome some kind of technological impasse. I think that it’s better for us not to know this for ten years. Let those to whom this gift will fly now think about it.
                    3. Ierarh
                      Ierarh 6 March 2018 11: 16
                      0
                      If the fuel rods are tight and keep it for a long time, then there will be no pollution. Only induced radiation. And the air is not very activated. So they decided ...
                      1. Ierarh
                        Ierarh 6 March 2018 11: 17
                        0
                        For the size of the reactor, it can be not only uranium but also plutonium ...
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 3 March 2018 21: 09
      +1
      and where the rocket flies will be dead land.

      Let us go over Europe right away laughing
  26. lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 March 2018 18: 15
    +2
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    You know how many imported technologies in the same West or Superjet


    Do you know how many Chinese parts in the iPhone? .
  27. sauvage
    sauvage 3 March 2018 18: 44
    +1
    This can be safely called HPP. They were indignant for so many years about the deployment of missile defense in Europe, so that the Americans believed in the correctness of the chosen strategy and invested as much as possible in this missile defense system, and the main thing is that the United States "put the wrong horse" in the development of new weapons systems. They thought that if they did not succeed in creating hypersonic and laser weapons, then no one will be able to and now to create something similar it takes about 10 years and huge funds.
  28. Tests
    Tests 3 March 2018 18: 54
    +1
    In the USSR officially from their jeans were only from Tver from Orbit fabric, there were jeans from the CMEA countries - Rila and Odra. Remember those times? The USSR could not do anything ... Only at that time in the sea (the Navy was an outcast for the USSR, a land country) did Komsomolets go. No one has broken the records of this submarine, although the 21st century is neither in terms of working depth nor in the depth of launch of torpedoes, and there weren’t and couldn’t be Granit missiles on Soviet submarines! The tips of the boat were made of riveted iron from locomotive cast iron. After all, the USSR could only do cartoons .... Therefore, the suggestions of some visitors to the site to postpone the date of the message of the President of the Russian Federation to the Federal Assembly are simply wonderful things. Dear, with such proposals that you should go to the site of the Military Review website, let's go directly to the site of the Presidential Administration, it’s somehow more reliable, it may take into account your valuable suggestions ...
    1. Bosch
      Bosch 3 March 2018 22: 35
      0
      No one is interested in the proposals on that site, but there is still some discussion going on.
  29. lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 March 2018 18: 55
    +3
    Quote: Ace of Diamonds
    Just count the overloads


    already calculated. The calculation launched on the Soviet missile defense "Gazelle" which at a similar speed of 5,5-5,8 km / s intensively maneuvering intercepts ICBMs.
    So to create missiles flying at such speeds, albeit at shorter distances, they were successfully created under the USSR.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 19: 07
      +1
      20M Karl ... 20!
      You are invited to calculate the overload for the contingent, mythical, maneuvering Vanguard flying at 20M.
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 3 March 2018 19: 42
        +6
        1 max in the upper atmosphere = 1062 km / h
        20 max = 21240 km / h
        1 hour = 60 minutes
        21240 km / h divided by 60 = 354 km / min
        1 minute = 60 seconds
        354 km / m divided by 60 = 5.9km / second

        But the characteristics of the Russian missile (ABM) A-135 (adopted for service in 1995)
        53T6 (PRS-1), according to the codification of NATO SH-08 / ABM-3A GAZELLE, (Rus. Gazelle) - a short-range interceptor missile.
        Rocket speed: 5,2-5,5 km / s
        Flight time: no more than 12 seconds.
        Maximum overloads:
        longitudinal - 210 g;
        transverse - 90 g.


        The problem was not the achievement of hypersound, but the duration of the flight in hypersound (the shell of the warhead during a long flight in hypersound was heated to fantastic temperatures that the existing materials could not withstand and the plasma cloud around literally burned all the control antennas making the flight uncontrollable).

        Not only are you not in the material, but you are also openly delirious.
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 19: 43
          +1
          Again...
          The conversation is not about missile defense, but about the goal itself.
          Even if we go according to the simplified version, 1km.s = 3M, 20M = almost 7km.s
          Will this coulibek make a dodge maneuver?
          Moreover, the Guarantor ambitiously stated that it can hobble unlimited time ..
          And you once ...! - and killed his dream with some 12 seconds ....
          1. lopvlad
            lopvlad 3 March 2018 20: 08
            +6
            Quote: Ace of Diamonds

            0
            Ace Tambourine Today, 19:43 ↑
            Again.


            re-read the overloads that the Russian missile missile defense missile system, capable of withstanding, of the 90s, designed to intercept the ICBM warheads intensively maneuvering at the end of the flight, is capable of withstanding.
            Well, I deliberately highlighted it in bold.
            That is, the only problem that the designers decided was the invention of new materials for the shell of the combat unit’s casing capable of withstanding extreme heating temperatures and placing antennas in it for control.
            In fact, there is nothing fantastic in the complex if you have previously produced rockets with similar characteristics but flying a short period of time.

            Quote: Ace of Diamonds
            20M = almost 7km.s


            incorrect since at a height of more than 11 kilometers 1max is no longer equal to 1224 km / h but only 1062 km / h
            1. Ace Tambourine
              Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 20: 20
              +1
              Opposing ...
              Well, from your own words ...
              12 sec and then the problems ...
              And here, in the sense of the words of the Guarantor, unlimited time at 20M ..
              Yes, a meteorite can’t stand it for more than a minute ...
              Well, no matter how blasphemous it may sound, the death of the last Shuttle to you as an example ...
              Moreover, the speed there was already less than 20 ..
              1. bk316
                bk316 3 March 2018 21: 04
                +3
                12 sec and then the problems ...

                oops about overload already silently switched to heating better immediately with mantras
                It’s not possible. If you did the USA, then it’s possible. belay
        2. Operator
          Operator 3 March 2018 21: 49
          0
          Quote: lopvlad
          Not only are you not in the material, but you’re also talking frankly

          Pity d.Bila, this is a clinical case bully
  30. 3vs
    3vs 3 March 2018 18: 56
    +8
    Some kind of childish delight on the site.
    Another hatred.
    It would be nice to remember what it turned into ...
    1. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 3 March 2018 19: 05
      +4
      I don’t understand one thing. How did the missile system begin to be mass-produced without testing? Our very same X-37 in space was spotted right away, and if we had tested the Vanguard at least once we would have spotted it and shown it to the whole world as it was with the X-37. Noise, God forbid!
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 19: 32
        +4
        then ...
        Firstly, it was tested at night, and secondly underground, and thirdly on the night of Friday to Saturday ... Therefore, such stunning results.
        In !!
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 3 March 2018 20: 23
        +2
        Quote: Viktor.12.71
        and if we had ever tested the Vanguard, we would have spotted it and shown it to the whole world as it was with the X-37. Noise, God forbid!

        I repeat. For four years now, Americans have been making noise about their backwardness. You just didn't hear
        1. Viktor.12.71
          Viktor.12.71 3 March 2018 22: 40
          +1
          Well, yes, behind. Since the 2000s they have been conducting supersonic tests, while laying all this out on the network. There is no point in arguing, economically strong will always have a huge advantage in technology.
          1. Operator
            Operator 3 March 2018 23: 36
            +2
            Quote: Viktor.12.71
            They are testing the supersonic from the 2000

            You have a mess in your head - the United States was buried with a hypersonic ramjet engine, and the Vanguard lacks an engine as a class, the Iskander missile engine is used as part of the Dagger complex, a supersonic ramjet engine is used in the intercontinental cruise missile.

            As you can see, the Americans drove themselves into a corner.
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 3 March 2018 19: 57
      +1
      Citizens rejoice in the successes of their country. As normal citizens should do.
      But what, in fact, should whine and doubt, pulling an owl of anti-arguments on the globe of information?
  31. NKVD
    NKVD 3 March 2018 19: 27
    0
    It seems that this is due to testing a hypersonic missile.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 3 March 2018 19: 40
      +1
      only date 01.07.2018 somehow smiles ...
      Are you a guest from the Future?
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 3 March 2018 22: 28
        +4
        Quote: Ace of Diamonds
        only date 01.07.2018 somehow smiles ...
        Are you a guest from the Future?

        In some foreign devices, the first month is indicated, nothing unusual.
  32. Old26
    Old26 3 March 2018 19: 27
    +4
    Quote: Muvka
    How many unsuccessful launches of the BR last year were? Or the year before last? Do you understand what kind of crap are you talking about?

    He is unlikely to answer. In the past - not a single unsuccessful launch of ballistic missiles (not space). In 2016 - 2 accidents, one in 2013, one in 2009.

    Quote: Fedorov
    It has changed that the missile defense system is mattress, a bunch of roach and years of development can be lowered into the toilet.

    And can you find out on which rocket the Vanguard launched in the series is going to put?

    Quote: Ivan.A
    Good news. A good argument for pressure on the Anglo-Saxons. Not negotiations, but pressure. It is time for us to tell them how to live on Mother Earth.

    But this apparatus for them is not pressure, but so far only a cartoon during treatment. They are well aware that, in principle, we have nothing to let this device into. What kind of pressure is this that "does not press" ???

    Quote: Rushnairfors
    Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this

    What is being tested is certain. But not on pilot combat duty, as was announced ...
  33. serverny
    serverny 3 March 2018 19: 42
    +1
    > Russian "Daggers"

    Rewriting history in full swing - the Soviet X-32 at any cost should be set as "completely Russian development to which the damned scoop has nothing to do."
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 March 2018 20: 08
      0
      X 32 - this missile needs to be discarded, in view of the enormous size, weight and minimum number of media installed on the carrier.
    2. shans2
      shans2 3 March 2018 20: 35
      +2
      this is not the X-32, who has a brain that understands that development of the X-22, the same speeds, less than 5 MAX ...
      X-32 carrier - Tu22M3, if you want to talk about development, then this is the basis of the Rainbow project - the X-90 hypersonic missile
  34. faterdom
    faterdom 3 March 2018 20: 24
    +4
    We will be banned. Obliged to name not the "Ministry of Defense", but a team of servicemen from Russia.
  35. Yves762
    Yves762 3 March 2018 20: 37
    +2
    Phew ...
    The Soviet Union did not collapse due to the lack of missiles ... fool
    1. shans2
      shans2 3 March 2018 20: 39
      +3
      It is impossible to save from collapse if the traitors Gorbachev and Yeltsin are at the helm ... now the power is in the hands of the Chekists, you will not break off .... the power has never been in the hands of the Chekists, the KGB, the FSB, whatever you call ... At the helm after Stalin stood mad embroidered Khrushchev, insane selyuki, etc. .....
      1. Yves762
        Yves762 4 March 2018 13: 30
        0
        Quote: shans2
        now the power is in the hands of the Chekists, you will not break off .... never before has the power been in the hands of the Chekists, the KGB, the FSB, whatever you call ...

        - Ahhhh !! ?? what And Andropov Yu.V.?.

        Quote: shans2
        At the helm after Stalin were crazy embroidered Khrushchevs, senile seluki, etc. .....

        - And yet, even with them, they flew into space, and a vigorous shield and ppm. ... that so far, having finalized the file, hawking the public for "their"Epic fault gives the current government ... laughing

        PS "When you say, Ivan Vasilyevich, the impression is that you are raving."

  36. armourer
    armourer 3 March 2018 20: 39
    +2
    Get well soon, watched the performance. I was absolutely delighted, well done !!!
  37. digitalcn75
    digitalcn75 3 March 2018 20: 39
    0
    .idioty blame on the quality of the graphics .. Yes, dbl, bld. As Dorenko said there, the Russians will wipe their finger, but they will not save on weapons. I wonder what made the GDP arrange this movie show. It’s a pity they won’t tell us, but, apparently, some sort of shucher was planned in our direction, most likely, in Ukraine.
  38. flicker
    flicker 3 March 2018 20: 43
    +7
    That is why when I read that all these cartoons are nothing more, that they are fairy tales, then all this pleases. This reaction is encouraging, because, first of all, it speaks of the gigantic breakthrough that Russia has made in the field of armaments. Nobody write, like, “let’s think it over,” “yes everyone has it,” yes there is more abruptly, etc. etc. No, they write that this cannot be, that they are cartoons and fairy tales - underlining this again how much success is INCREDIBLE that it is huge (beyond understanding) success Russian science, Russian scientists and designers.
    Cartoons and fairy tales are the best applause to our scientists and designers. Really, just fantastic. yes
  39. Morrrow
    Morrrow 3 March 2018 20: 48
    0
    Hypersonic heads have China - WU-17! U.S.AHW
  40. lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 March 2018 21: 02
    +3
    Quote: Ace of Diamonds
    12 sec and then the problems ...


    it was 23 years ago. What do you think can solve the problem after 23 years?
    There are no miracles, but simply your conviction, “No, it cannot be, after all, everything is modern only with the Americans.”
    This belief that the West has the best and most breakthrough comes from the naive to senility. The West in some technologies broke away from us only because the USSR collapsed in 1990 and we stupidly survived for more than 15 years.
    The West still has no missiles similar in speed and overload data like our Gazelle developed in the late 80s.
    So now the US military is just hysterical.

    RUSSIA THE GREAT COUNTRY WHICH IS IN A CONDITION TO COOPERATE ANY EXCLUSIVE NATION.
  41. Mentor
    Mentor 3 March 2018 21: 16
    0
    The wars and technologies of the 20th century are reset, now we are waiting for the 21st century show, take places in the stalls, and who is in the "trenches." Is it only interesting that humanity has a chance of survival?
  42. Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 23
    +1
    Mestny,

    Quote: Mestny
    This is what is characteristic of you, the weeping-bastards about Russia - your mantras are recognizable from the first sentence.
    Well enough, really.
    Well, we do not eat the last hedgehogs. Yes, there are problems, and in some places rather big ones. But they are not nearly so large that they would take to the streets and break it all for the sake of some kind of “new leader”.
    The situation in the country is such that a "new leader" is not yet needed. And the old is nothing yet.

    Well, if for you the upcoming 3rd World War is a trivial situation, then yes, we do not need anyone new ...))
  43. Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 3 March 2018 21: 27
    0
    Monos,
    Quote: Monos
    You are apparently too young. How old are you, 16-17? But we saw both Russia and the Union under different leaders. We have something to compare. Pick up snot and do not fool adult uncles head.

    Over thirty already. Please, do not advertise your senility here. It's not funny. This is the future of the whole country.
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  45. standan
    standan 3 March 2018 21: 31
    0
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

    To the White House
  46. standan
    standan 3 March 2018 21: 35
    0
    Quote: karish
    Quote: Thrall
    An update for the training manual has been released:
    1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
    2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

    different countries - different manuals
    1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
    2. This will never happen in the USA

    Have something to argue?
    1. karish
      karish 3 March 2018 21: 41
      0
      Quote: standan
      Quote: karish
      Quote: Thrall
      An update for the training manual has been released:
      1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
      2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

      different countries - different manuals
      1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
      2. This will never happen in the USA

      Have something to argue?

      about what ?
      1. standan
        standan 4 March 2018 12: 16
        0
        As for the creation of a new weapon and anyone else has it
  47. Operator
    Operator 3 March 2018 21: 52
    +1
    Quote: Old26
    can you find out what rocket the Vanguard launched in the series is going to put on?

    According to the GDP - at Sarmat, which they are going to put on combat duty this year (if I'm not mistaken).
  48. Feldscher
    Feldscher 3 March 2018 21: 54
    +1
    Quote: Ace Tambourine
    Opposing ...
    Well, from your own words ...
    12 sec and then the problems ...
    And here, in the sense of the words of the Guarantor, unlimited time at 20M ..
    Yes, a meteorite can’t stand it for more than a minute ...
    Well, no matter how blasphemous it may sound, the death of the last Shuttle to you as an example ...
    Moreover, the speed there was already less than 20 ..


    What a stupid trolling ...
    How about a wall of peas ...
    Vlad, my respect hi
    1. gerkost2012
      gerkost2012 3 March 2018 23: 21
      0
      My darling, if you think in terms of rockets like Saturn - Proton, then nothing can fly otherwise. However, Putin has already mentioned weapons based on new physical principles several times and has been doing this for a very long time, as if expressing the hope that he will be understood by stupid "partners". Apparently, Russian physicists and others caught plasma and something else by the tail. And this is high energy physics. After all, it is not necessary to run along with everyone else, you can go across.
  49. alexey1213
    alexey1213 3 March 2018 22: 01
    -1
    What a hysteria the USA has. These are cries of joy. A new threat, money is needed, and money is a good life, and new jobs are there. After all, an answer must be given to the threat. I would have praised our president in their place, too, as they do and scolded it, otherwise it is not patriotic. I hope that we still have these weapons. In the West, they know very well that our country rarely attacks first. Hysteria is ostentatious. In my non-professional opinion, we need weapons that will help withstand the first strongest blow. To answer later.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 March 2018 22: 58
      +2
      This (and other) weapon will be much talked about before the election.
      Then they will abruptly forget about him before the World Cup.
      And then it turns out that some of the projects are not funded, some - "the deadlines are moved to the right,"
      and part is a tactical bluff to intimidate the enemy.
      1. askme
        askme 3 March 2018 23: 30
        +3
        It's silly to count on it. All these projects, except for absolutely unexpected for all KR with a nuclear engine - everything has been heard for a long time. Even the Dagger. This is nothing but a variant of the X-32. There is nothing special in this system in principle. Gaining speed of about 4 km / s, having before it acceleration from the first stage of the MiG-31, with its 1 km / s - there is nothing special about this. Given the progress in solid fuels for solid propellant rocket engines, in carbon plastics, in compact SU and GOS. So everything is absolutely real. And from the European part of Russia, almost all of Europe is now under fire, most of the Middle East, Norway with fjords and coasts, etc. ... This is a new reality that everyone will have to get used to. 5-15 minutes - and there are no strategic bases , airfield, aircraft carriers, destroyers, missile defense systems ... This is the end of all aggressive plans. This is NATO’s losery for years, it’s the losery of all who are trying to yelp at Russia in the Middle East ... For missile defense systems have been built for a long time, and such generally are beyond the Western capabilities of the present ...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 4 March 2018 02: 57
          +4
          Your post finally convinced me that this is a bluff. What you have listed requires numerous tests. Tests are well detected by satellites. But no tests were conducted. One laboratory prototype flies suspended under an airplane. That the Dagger, that Zircon, that the Vanguard - developments at the level of laboratory prototypes. Only Sarmat is something real. But several of them will do them to scare NATO and stop.
          1. askme
            askme 4 March 2018 07: 40
            +5
            You have logic problems in your brain. For the video clearly shows that the rocket not only flies under the plane, but also on its own) And if your torch companions did not see it (and they can only see it, despite the fact that the torch was filmed, its fact is obvious), then bullshit these are your companions and they cannot see anything in principle. It’s even fun to watch your tribe wrinkle)) And rightly so, there is something)

            You have the first stage of the process: denial)) Then comes the anger, and then the acceptance of the inevitable. You have a fun life ahead, many events))
      2. Operator
        Operator 3 March 2018 23: 39
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        tactical bluff to intimidate the enemy

        Excellent result - 30 seconds of airtime and the enemy has full pants over the next 25 years bully
        1. Strips
          Strips 4 March 2018 07: 33
          +6
          Quote: Operator
          Excellent result - 30 seconds of airtime and the enemy has full pants over the next 25 years


          Rather, another noodle before the election. All this was said exactly before the election to the population.
          Whether it’s true or not, it’s not important anymore, the main thing for the population is to sell a strong leader who can promise, if anything, to destroy the enemy, to show a rocket in a wretched schedule.
          This is better than discussing the impoverishment of the population, the miserable salaries of teachers and doctors, miserable pensions, about the lack of kindergartens and schools, about wild corruption, terrible medicine, that having such cool rockets, the Sberbank is afraid to open in Crimea due to sanctions.


          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 March 2018 09: 13
            0
            Devastation - only in the heads and no more.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 4 March 2018 12: 30
            0
            Quote: Tiras
            Sberbank is afraid to open in Crimea due to sanctions

            Sberbank has not belonged to Russia for a long time, for example, VTB operates in Crimea.
            Quote: Tiras
            about the lack of kindergartens and schools, about wild corruption, terrible medicine

            And where is Libya now, in which all of the above was perfect?
            1. Strips
              Strips 4 March 2018 13: 20
              0
              Quote: Setrac
              Sberbank has not belonged to Russia for a long time,


              And to whom?
          3. Operator
            Operator 4 March 2018 12: 50
            0
            No need to get into a conversation with an Israeli with his flood - he expressed an opinion about tactical bluffing, I recognized the super-efficiency of this bluffing (at least).
  50. muhomor
    muhomor 3 March 2018 22: 32
    0
    All this is good! GDP during and sharply announced new types of weapons. But the question. And how much "novia" is ready for use. And when will the amount needed for the rattle?