Source: Avangard rocket complex launched into serial production.

The Avangard strategic complex, with a hypersonic planning and maneuvering warhead, has been put into mass production, reports RT with reference to a military diplomatic source.

It is time for our Western partners to realize a new reality. Russian "Daggers" are already in the army. A "Avangard" launched into serial production

- said the source

According to him, no one, except Russia, has a hypersonic weapons no.

As for the cries from the West about Russia's alleged violation of the Treaty on Medium and Small-Range Missiles, all this from despair. There is no sense for Russia to violate the INF Treaty. New weapon does not fall under its action

- added a source.

He noted that it is necessary to understand that Russia "has the newest ocean multi-purpose system with autonomous underwater vehicles."

Russia has the newest avant-garde hypersonic strategic complex. Russia has a "Dagger" and other ultra-modern weapons systems, which Putin said. And high-precision weapons of the new generation are already on combat duty

- stressed the source.

He also called on the West to "realize all this" and sit down at the negotiating table.

Agree on comprehensive security, not saber-rattling and not violating parity, as the United States and NATO have been trying to do for many years. Actually, Putin himself said the best about it: “Didn't want to listen to us then? Listen now »

- he concluded.

Earlier, the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN), Sergei Karakaev, said that the Avangard complex was an effective response to the deployment of US missile defense systems

Comments

[Muvka]

Here we have priorities, not the navy. Let’s compare the quality of missiles manufactured by China and their quantity. How do you like when comparing the fleet.

[Monos]

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

[hrych]

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

Exactly so They threw all their strength and resources on Aegis and Stealth, and the Dark Lord did fantastic things. By the way, they are not so fantastic, all within the framework of progress. But Hegemon is no longer Hegemon, but a second-rate power

They themselves know the principle, they themselves were engaged and suddenly, when the Russians did, they began to hysteria that this was impossible

[Monos]

Greetings, colleague.
It was a handicap race. We gave them (not at will) a car of time. They missed him. Now let squeal and wipe snot.

[hrych]

They started to finish in a fork with a striped flag, signing autographs, but then someone flew in hypersound

[Vladimir16]

Syria needs a dagger.
So that no one has any doubts. And the barmalei realize that there is no one else to protect them.
These are emotions ...

[urman]

Well, you don’t need to be arrogant, but how it will happen to amers.
Well, the fact that they gave us a time car is for sure, they thought everything to us was a cord,
GDP is not only judo MC but noble chess player,
now they are breaking their heart’s not childishly, then from frustration.

[Vladimir16]

Here again Bismarck recalls:

Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main power of Russia. Russians, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, will just as quickly reunite with each other as particles of a cut piece of mercury. This is an indestructible state of the Russian nation, strong in its climate, its spaces and limited needs.

And this:

Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

And of course:

Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.

We need to demonstrate once again that we are RUSSIAN.
This applies to those who are Russian, who remained in Ukraine. Let the whole world understand that Ukraine is a Russian land.

Thank God that Putin did not go to Russia. It seemed that kirdyk, but survived. Hooray! Hurray to all of us !!! The mood then rose on the first of March! In Russia before Peter the First of March was a new year according to the church calendar.

[major147]

"It was worth any army to declare itself

first in the world as she inevitably met

Cheerful Russians on their way

shelves - and ... became the second in the world "

historian A.A. Kersnovsky

[Partyzan]

Quote: hrych

They themselves know the principle, they themselves were engaged and suddenly, when the Russians did, they began to hysteria that this was impossible

you know, if the gopher is not visible, then this does not mean that it is not

[hrych]

Quote: Partyzan

you know, if the gopher is not visible, then this does not mean that he

The little believers accused them of showing cartoons. Firstly, they showed absolutely all the starts of fashionable devices in real life, and then go operators and catch up with hypersonic gliders so that you can attest to their flight, you can even interview or a nuclear torpedo in the abyss of dark waters

[Partyzan]

Quote: hrych

The little believers accused them of showing cartoons.

remember Soviet times, even the general form of technology was forbidden to remove, and rightly so, this, as they say now, know-how

[standan]

In the USSR, even the "military" cartoons did not show

[Evgeniy667b]

GDP PR. About such weapons should not be distributed. Let it be for the adversary like snow on his head. And now they are warned and are looking for an adequate counterweight. They’ll find it sooner or later. Their industrial potential is much more powerful than ours. It is better for Putin to take care of the forests of Russia, otherwise the Chinese have thoroughly cleaned everything up in the Angara area and around Lake Baikal.

[Blondy]

Well, of course, little believers are right - all this is a bluff in Soviet time. But if you play the spy (google it well), then oddities begin to appear, For example, on March 2, 2016, Kiriyenko, as the head of Rosatom, talked about space missions on a nuclear power plant in his State Duma report and hit his chest, which By the end of 2018, the transport and energy module will be ready for flight tests. The project price is 20 billion rubles, 17 billion from the budget. I’m not to say that 20 billion, but to the fact that Kiriyenko may have been drinking it, but the bastard coped with all the projects and pulled Rosatom out of a deep (well, let it be) depression. And then there is Putin with a small-sized nuclear power installation. Well, this is already trivial - Capone used to say that with a kind word and with a gun it is much easier to convince than with a kind word. So - such a bluff-like train around a nuclear power plant is clearly not easy. Then, there is too much noise and suspicious little work with the Angara, which resembles a curtain. In general, we stock up on popcorn and wait, sir. Something interesting must degenerate: like to Mars in a month and a half. We won’t kick the mask - all his enthusiasm can disappear ahead of time.

[R Anatoly]

And what can they do - all that remains is to bluff with the Mask, and before him with flights (apparently on a broomstick) to the moon. So brazenly only Americans can lie. Oblaposhit the whole world !!!, Well it is necessary to reach this.

[urman]

I remembered an interview with a state general in the 90s.
Arrogant such, such as where to rock the Russian Federation, we managed to study all its weapons, rusty ships and aircraft.
Now I would look at him,

[Observer2014]

hrych

They themselves know the principle, they themselves were engaged and suddenly, when the Russians did, they began to hysteria that this was impossible

I won’t be surprised if they start yelling that Russian missiles are not flying honestly. Because missiles are in meldonium

[hrych]

Quote: Observer2014

Because missiles in meldonium

Better to be in Meldonium than Norwegian asthmatic

[tezey]

You are not mistaken. I read similar on Rambler.

[Thrall]

An update for the training manual has been released:
1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

[karish]

Quote: Thrall

An update for the training manual has been released:
1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

different countries - different manuals
1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
2. This will never happen in the USA

[Mordvin 3]

Well, they will, then it will be. And how much fat in Kiev? So, interestingly simple.

[Mendax]

If they are stubborn, it will be a new arms race, and much more expensive than during the Soviet Union ....

[A. Privalov]

Quote: karish

Quote: Thrall

An update for the training manual has been released:
1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

different countries - different manuals
1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
2. This will never happen in the USA

Buddy, well, do not be so heartless! It's the same as a little penny's child to take away.

[massad1]

Oh, I beg of you - study your textbook about how your Soviet AU 16 rocket demolished your vaunted aces on F-70

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: massad1

Oh, I beg of you - study your textbook about how your Soviet AU 16 rocket demolished your vaunted aces on F-70

You won’t believe it, but a bullet fired from an old karamultuk can hit the best commando in the best outfit.

[massad1]

Yes, I don’t argue. I didn’t write a post for this. I’m leading to the fact that these malicious catters of the Jewish brothers are at least inappropriate, let everyone look at their wheels.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: massad1

Oh, I beg of you - study your textbook about how your Soviet AU 16 rocket demolished your vaunted aces on F-70

Unlike you, my dear, I do not gloat, I do not enjoy other people's failures. And my heart is with the dead Russian pilot, and with the citizens of the Russian Federation, no matter how many February 7s are there, not even recognized as their own country. Blessed be the memory of them ...

[Inok10]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

You won’t believe it, but a bullet fired from an old karamultuk can hit the best commando in the best outfit.

Quote: A. Privalov

Unlike you, dear, I do not gloat, I do not rejoice in the failures of others.

... My regards ! ... but in this particular case, you gentlemen with your malicious smirks, you ran into yourself ... and rightly so ... the wrong place is Israel, for which you can broadcast with a smirk on such topics as "Vanguard" and "Dagger" .. . With respect ! ...

[massad1]

where does the failure ??? stuck across the border and got a hill, not a bit of gloating, only a statement of fact - air piracy must be severely suppressed !!! Anticipating the following question: the legal government called us there, nobody called you there.

[Inok10]

Quote: massad1

where does the failure ??? stuck across the border and got a hill, not a bit of gloating, only a statement of fact - air piracy must be severely suppressed !!! Anticipating the following question: the legal government called us there, nobody called you there.

... dismiss Draka ... Flood is punishable by law, as are comments not related to the subject of the article ...
P.S. ... do not mess up the topic ...

[massad1]

sorry for the off-top, I won’t

[Prokhor80]

there is still gloating

[Every]

Quote: A. Privalov

and with the citizens of the Russian Federation, no matter how many they were there on February 7, not even recognized by their own country.

The dead were not members of the Russian army. Who they were to everyone is clear. But the Russian Federation simply should not recognize mercenaries in them. We have mercenarism - a criminal offense. If they are called mercenaries, it means automatically accusing the commission of a crime ....
So that is the tourists. And no one else.

[co-creator]

Quote: A. Privalov

and with the citizens of the Russian Federation, no matter how many they were there on February 7, not even recognized by their own country. Blessed be the memory of them ..

Isn't that malice? Although you perfectly understand the difference between the military and mercenaries. Russia always recognizes its citizens and corpses were transported to the Russian Federation, as is the case with other citizens who died, for example, in Thailand.

[Xnumx vis]

You understand it is calmer to think so. And it turns out they feasted, feasted, and then once a sailor hung with grenades comes in and says ... - "That's all, sorry gentlemen, good, the feast is over. Kish world in tukhes ..."

[Red_Hamer]

2. This will never happen in the USA

Who said no?
"Someday, probably, he will appear, but during this time our guys will come up with something else." That was said so.

[Dart]

as they say, walk Vasya, chew the sawdust, get tired (another expression) swallow dust)

[dorz]

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

Two hypersonic devices are being tested in the USA, one for silo ICBMs and the other for the Polaris marine. The series is still far away and it pleases.

[Black_Vatnik]

It is not yet known how these trials will end.
For the United States is willing to engage in baseless advertising. You don’t have to go far for an example - railgun

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: dorz

Two hypersonic devices are being tested in the USA, one for silo ICBMs and the other for the Polaris marine. The series is still far away and it pleases.

Poor Americans Although ...

New weapons are still unpredictable in terms of serial production, but it is already known that their individual samples will take up combat duty in the next 10 years, said the former commander of the VKS, the head of the Federation Council defense committee Viktor Bondarev.We are talking about a promising missile system with a planning winged block and a new cruise missile with a nuclear power plant.

Oh how.

[the lord]

Again and again about the degradation of the Jews, the process is clearly progressing .... Somehow, it’s a pity to look, looking for allegedly someone’s words somewhere.

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

And the compulsion to peace began. What alternative do they have to what is said and what is shown? Just try to pretend that nothing happened, persistently insist on Russia's allegedly aggressive intentions and continue the arms business of US corporations demanding more and more infusions from the Congress dependent on it.

[Monos]

Quote: Tatar 174

And the compulsion to peace began.

This is generally an interesting point. We were persuaded for a long time that we lost the Cold War, but it turned out that we simply changed shoes and laced up the berets.

[Dimka off]

Quote: Monos

that we just changed shoes and laced berets.

Russians harness for a long time and go fast)

[Partyzan]

Quote: Monos

but it turned out that we just changed shoes and laced up the berets.

but they don’t understand this - they all have Velcro, though they often lose their shoes

[hrych]

Quote: Tatar 174

Just try to pretend that nothing happened

Macaron and Merkel expressed concern, Trump annoyingly extended the sanctions, and Boris set off

[Romario_Argo]

Trump annoyingly extended sanctions

he doesn’t have any annoyance. because they simply don’t have such technologies even in projects.
they were in the know when they expressed their concern about PC-26 Boundary, she is the Vanguard. Like we violated the INF Treaty. When launches were carried out at a distance of 2000 km.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Monos

It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

Victor - this is at least 10 years, and all because they changed the strategy - "catch up and overtake America" ​​changed to "we will go the other way"

[Monos]

Quote: Partyzan

changed to "we will go the other way"

Although, it would seem, everyone has long known that Russians are terrible for their unpredictability; so no, they cackle, feathers dissolve, heel in the chest beat themselves, make terrible faces ...

[Partyzan]

Quote: Monos

so no, cackle, feathers open,

they want a medal, although I would have handed it over like Gorbachev

[210ox]

Medals .... With a spin on the back ..

Quote: Partyzan

Quote: Monos

so no, cackle, feathers open,

they want a medal, although I would have handed it over like Gorbachev

[Partyzan]

Quote: 210ox

With a spin on the back ..

you are very kind, I would just bend the nail

[Svarog51]

you are very kind, I would just bend the nail

You are VERY kind, I would drill a hole and screw it onto a bolt.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Svarog51

I would drill a hole

Sergei and you are a sadist, hammer from the front with a sledgehammer, take a sledgehammer from behind

[Svarog51]

and you are a sadist

Here you are wrong, I can only be forced into the garden. Sadists are voluntary gardeners.

[not main]

Quote: Partyzan

Quote: Svarog51

I would drill a hole

Sergei and you are a sadist, hammer from the front with a sledgehammer, take a sledgehammer from behind

The biggest nail is 5 to 200, you can score. And hardly bend.

[Hammerlock]

all their missile defense ... (I do not know how to designate this sound with letters)

and MIC

[Lopatov]

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

?
Do you think that the American military-industrial complex will voluntarily abandon gigantic profits?

[Monos]

Quote: Spade

Do you think that the American military-industrial complex will voluntarily abandon gigantic profits?

No, well, in this sense - yes, they will drive for sale. But this is no longer an arms race, but an auction of rarities.

[flicker]

Yes, they will drive for sale.

they will demand a cut

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

It is ridiculous to think that in this world you can threaten psycho mattresses with a nuclear missile. More precisely, it’s generally ridiculous to threaten any psycho with a nuclear missile ... The pin-dos have accepted the challenge and will now double-beat us with non-nuclear means, since they will not believe in life that someone will have the will not only for an empty idle talk. )
If Putin had at least once shown that his words were not just another idle talk before the election, then I would have voted for him. But alas ...

[Monos]

Quote: Misha Honest

and now they will double us with non-nuclear means

And when did they figurate us? A hypersonic projectile does not have to equip a core-loaf. He has such kinetic energy that anyone has enough eyes. Read smart books.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Monos

And when did they figurate us?

Syria - Wagner, Su-24 - Erdogan,, Ukraine - completely, Libya - Gaddafi ... are you not enough? I can name a couple more ...

[Monos]

Quote: Misha Honest

Syria - Wagner, Su-24 - Erdogan, Ukraine - completely, Libya - Gaddafi.

Do not pull the donkey by the ears. Of all that you have written here, only SU-24 reality. But even that, they were Turks, not Americans. And they were afraid of their greyhounds and still repent.

Quote: Misha Honest

I can name a couple more ...

Do not strain. And then so suck the whole finger.

[Misha Honest]

Turks in NATO have been and will be ... Don’t be stupid, please. ) NATO enemies to us-direct ...

Quote: Monos

Do not strain. Otherwise, you’ll suck your whole finger

Arrogance is contagious. ) You just do not see the obvious. This is your business ...

[Monos]

You have porridge in your head. With such confusion, it’s a shame in my thoughts, my friend, to get out on people.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Monos

You have porridge in your head. With such confusion, it’s a shame in my thoughts, my friend, to get out on people.

You have porridge, but everything is extremely clear to me. It’s fashionable and fun to beat Russia now, despite the fact that we will not answer ... Shame. I would look at today's Russia with any other adequate leader ...

[Mestny]

This is what is characteristic of you, the weeping-bastards about Russia - your mantras are recognizable from the first sentence.
Well enough, really.
Well, we do not eat the last hedgehogs. Yes, there are problems, and in some places rather big ones. But they are not nearly so large that they would take to the streets and break it all for the sake of some kind of “new leader”.
The situation in the country is such that a "new leader" is not yet needed. And the old is nothing yet.

[Monos]

Quote: Misha Honest

A shame. I would look at today's Russia with any other adequate leader ...

You are apparently too young. How old are you, 16-17? But we saw both Russia and the Union under different leaders. We have something to compare. Pick up snot and do not fool adult uncles head.

[flicker]

Turks in NATO have been and will be ...

After the SU-24, the Turks finally understood what NATO is. At first, they beat Erdogan in every way possible, to shoot down the SU-24 promising help and protection, and when he shot down, NATO said that it was Russian-Turkish graters and that they did not interfere there
Not for that, Americans include other countries in NATO to die for these countries - on the contrary, they include in NATO so that the peoples of these countries die for the interests of mattresses.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: flicker

Turks in NATO have been and will be ...

After the SU-24, the Turks finally understood what NATO is. At first, they beat Erdogan in every way possible, to shoot down the SU-24 promising help and protection, and when he shot down, NATO said that it was Russian-Turkish graters and that they did not interfere there
Not for that, Americans include other countries in NATO to die for these countries - on the contrary, they include in NATO so that the peoples of these countries die for the interests of mattresses.

After the SU-24, the Turks realized that mattresses paid well for our downed planes ... And the Turks were always greedy.
I completely agree with the rest - none of them are allies. )

[Misha Honest]

Quote: flicker

Turks in NATO have been and will be ...

After the SU-24, the Turks finally understood what NATO is. At first, they beat Erdogan in every way possible, to shoot down the SU-24 promising help and protection, and when he shot down, NATO said that it was Russian-Turkish graters and that they did not interfere there
Not for that, Americans include other countries in NATO to die for these countries - on the contrary, they include in NATO so that the peoples of these countries die for the interests of mattresses.

Nevertheless, the Turks didn’t leave NATO, which means we are selling the vital system to our enemies. ) Not funny. Absolutely. This is idiocy.

[flicker]

Nevertheless, the Turks didn’t leave NATO

What for? For them, this is an ideal situation - the position "I will leave NATO" for the Turks has become a GOODS, which he can successfully sell to us and Amers. But one thing is for sure, the Turks WILL NOT Fight for NATO.

[Black_Vatnik]

Do you know how you reacted to NATO in the case of SU-24 when Erdogan mentioned the unity of the Alliance and article 5?
The question is rhetorical)
And yes, I’m not talking about the fact that Erdogan crawled over to Putin in the summer of 2016)

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Black_Jacket

Do you know how you reacted to NATO in the case of SU-24 when Erdogan mentioned the unity of the Alliance and article 5?

In the course - they were scared and did not support, but approved)

Quote: Black_Jacket

And yes, I’m not talking about the fact that Erdogan crawled over to Putin in the summer of 2016)

The nature of the Turks is such that they crawl to you today, and then ... with a leg under their ribs ... It always has been, but they have not changed at all during this time.

[Black_Vatnik]

So for which banana do you tie the situation with SU-24 to our graters with the Americans? To the heap, if only it were?
Do not tell me about the nature of the Turks. I studied with the Turks under the same roof for 2 years.
I don’t want to belittle your mental abilities, but, I think, even if you allow the situation with a “leg under the ribs”, I dare to assume that the GDP team drove this situation 150 times in ten different scenarios.

It would be possible to discuss about the PMC "Wagner" and about Ukraine ... but only on SU-24 everything became clear)

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Monos

And they were afraid of their greyhounds and still repent.

Do not forget what it turned out to Turkars ... and there it is far from a tomato !! liberals mow under fools, not noticing what happened after our SU-24 !!!

What else are you talking about? The actual loss of the Turks is with \ x-tomato households and tourism, but the owners will always print green to them, if that ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Misha Honest

What else are you talking about?

that the downed plane eventually turned for Turkey an attempted military coup ... find out the number of dead and wounded yourself !!! this is not to mention the "little things" in the form of economic problems !!!

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Misha Honest

What else are you talking about?

that the downed plane eventually turned for Turkey an attempted military coup ... find out the number of dead and wounded yourself !!! this is not to mention the "little things" in the form of economic problems !!!

The coup is their personal thing with mattresses, it is foolish to believe that if we helped them, then they will be faithful to us before the grave.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Misha Honest

The coup is their personal with mattresses

a coup was possible because of a quarrel with Russia ... you think narrowly, but you undertake to talk about such serious topics !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Misha Honest

If Putin would at least once show that his words are not just another idle talk

I believe that you, in confirmation of the presence of voiced weapons, were expecting a movie with a real blow to the Americans ???

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Misha Honest

If Putin would at least once show that his words are not just another idle talk

I believe that you, in confirmation of the presence of voiced weapons, were expecting a movie with a real blow to the Americans ???

To reassure or calm the mattresses you need the ROLLER WITH APPLICATION, and not an empty chatter about what will happen in the future. Or didn’t you know about it?

[cariperpaint]

oh well))) Well, I understand skepticism of course, but forgive me and what kind of weapon of such strength does someone demonstrate then? instead of stupid talk, is it true or not everyone should think why it happened now. no need about elections only. he would have won them like that. everything in my opinion is much worse.

[Mestny]

Yes, even if they demonstrate it, they will yell that this is all untrue, that they showed not at all what they promised.
It’s all done, these doubts, not in order to find out the truth, but to add an extra bucket of shit to the authorities on the fan.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: cariperpaint

oh well))) Well, I understand skepticism of course, but forgive me and what kind of weapon of such strength does someone demonstrate then? instead of stupid talk, is it true or not everyone should think why it happened now. no need about elections only. he would have won them like that. everything in my opinion is much worse.

Mattresses demonstrate everywhere - it means they are ready to apply. And we ... just solid boltology.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Misha Honest

you need the ROLLER WITH APPLICATION, and not an empty chatter

and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons ???

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons ???

You can answer your own question by looking in YouTube yourself.) In general, pray that we will not see it in our lifetime ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Misha Honest

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons ???

You can answer your own question by searching in YouTube yourself.).

at least a year tell me ... 2000th or at least 2010th ???

[Full name]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

and when was the last time you saw a fresh movie using nuclear weapons?

Nikolai, what does nuclear weapon have to do with it? Indeed, in the announced types of weapons, the novelty is not the BP type, but the methods of its delivery. Namely: hypersonic speed (Dagger, Vanguard planning warheads) and unlimited range provided by a small-sized nuclear engine (Status or as it is called now and a cruise missile with poison) Why not reinforce verbal knocking with a boot on a high platform, demonstration tests?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Full name

Nikolai, what does nuclear weapon have to do with it?

if you consciously described in your comment about a weapon, then you yourself understand that for no reason nobody will be a naughty thing !!!!

[Full name]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

you understand that just like that nobody will naughty things

No, I don’t understand. And I don’t understand why you in vain smile emoticons. And about the tests, not "just like that", but with the goal of real, not unfounded demonstration of the capabilities of a new type of weapon. After all, in the USSR they did not hesitate to undermine megaton charges, and launch rockets into space, why should one be modest now? I think that Putin was a little hurried. And why - firstly, elections are on the way and the electorate must be encouraged, and secondly, elections too, but the message is already “for export”, in the light of possible Western provocations in Ukraine and Syria (in order to disrupt them or lower the rating Putin) - scare the West, they say, do not joke, the local war can end in global Armageddets.

[askme]

Are you a real oligophrenic or fool around? Didn’t they teach you at school that all five leading nuclear powers of the world comply with the moratorium on testing nuclear weapons, especially the megaton class, and besides, there has been a ban on such tests since the 60s (for the megaton class)?

[Svarog51]

To reassure or calm the mattresses you need the ROLLER WITH APPLICATION

Maybe not "ROLLER", but "APPLICATION"? But there’s a catch - we’re “partners” for now. I think they and Roller will be satisfied if they have not completely lost their minds.

[Icarus]

It's not about how we think about our weapons, but how the striped think about it. To make them negotiable without a real demonstration of the abilities of the RS 26 (without warheads) can not do. For example, on some uninhabited island in the Pacific Ocean (closer to the states) it is necessary to gasp.

[StVahmistr]

If Putin had at least once shown that his words were not just another idle talk before the election, then I would have voted for him. But alas ...

Well, yes, the storyteller is excellent ... 18 years the same thing, but still listen with bated breath. (Why not laugh?)

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over.

I doubt however. Remember when the competition of armor and shell began? But it continues to this day. As long as humanity exists, there will be wars. And that means the arms race. Alas.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Monos

arms race is over

Wait, nobody has canceled the money, along with the huge American military-industrial complex. In my opinion, the arms race is entering a new stage. The Pentagon immediately orientated itself, and instead of a trillion dollars, it asked Congress for three.

[R Anatoly]

Nuclear engines and Vanguards have been around with us for 30 years. And all this time the Americans tried to create something remotely similar, but they couldn’t. Even the UN bent down to ban Russia from using nuclear engines.
Guys - BE Proud OF OUR COUNTRY!

[R Anatoly]

Nuclear engines and Vanguards have been around with us for 30 years. And all this time the Americans tried to create something remotely similar, but they couldn’t. Even the UN bent down to ban Russia from using nuclear engines.
Guys - BE Proud OF OUR COUNTRY!

[Svarog]

Quote: Muvka

Here we have priorities, not the navy. Let’s compare the quality of missiles manufactured by China and their quantity. How do you like when comparing the fleet.

Do you know the quality of Chinese missiles? Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches .. how many satellites have lost ..

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Svarog

Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches .. how many satellites have lost ..

Comrade Svarog, this is a hard way to know, you have to go through it.

[Svarog]

Quote: Tartar 174

Quote: Svarog

Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches .. how many satellites have lost ..

Comrade Svarog, this is a hard way to know, you have to go through it.

it’s not clear what you mean by that? What knowledge?

[Tatar 174]

Well, for something to work as it should, you need to redo it and redo it more than once until you get what you want, moreover, what if nobody has done it to you. That's what I meant about such a "hard way of knowing."

[Svarog]

Quote: Tartar 174

Well, for something to work as it should, you need to redo it and redo it more than once until you get what you want, moreover, what if nobody has done it to you. That's what I meant about such a "hard way of knowing."

I agree with this .. but the conversation was about proven missiles, which we fall regularly and the path of knowledge on them has been covered for a long time.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Svarog

which we fall regularly

if you do sekas with the same “regularity” as our missiles fall, then it’s clear where you got problems !!!

[Svarog]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Svarog

which we fall regularly

if you do sekas with the same “regularity” as our missiles fall, then it’s clear where you got problems !!!

Who hurts something ... he says that ..

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Svarog

which we fall regularly

if you do sekas with the same “regularity” as our missiles fall, then it’s clear where you got problems !!!

Who hurts something ... he says that ..

well, for you a more understandable language ... if you eat with the same "regularity" as our rockets fall, then ..... !!!! I think you should still figure out the real meaning of some of the words you use !!!

[Svarog]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

well, for you a more understandable language ... if you eat with the same "regularity" as our rockets fall, then ..... !!!! I think you should still figure out the real meaning of some of the words you use !!!

Here is a story in comparison with 2011 - to 2015.
Russia: 160 starts / 11 unsuccessful / failure rate 6,875%
USA: 109 starts / 6 unsuccessful / failure rate 5,5%
PRC: 101 launches / 3 unsuccessful / failure rate 2,97%
EU: 52 starts / 1 unsuccessful / failure rate 1,92%

Here you can see in detail http://www.nasha-strana.info/archives/2141
Well, about the military, we will never know ..

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Svarog

Here is a story in comparison with 2011 - to 2015.
Russia: 160 starts / 11 unsuccessful / failure rate 6,875%
USA: 109 starts / 6 unsuccessful / failure rate 5,5%
PRC: 101 launches / 3 unsuccessful / failure rate 2,97%
EU: 52 starts / 1 unsuccessful / failure rate 1,92%

then everyone can talk about "regularity" and tie up this demagogy on your part !!!

[bk316]

fall regularly

good to drive just answer how many missiles we fell in 17
military and non-military

[Muvka]

How many unsuccessful launches of the BR last year were? Or the year before last? Do you understand what kind of crap are you talking about?

[Svarog]

I'm not talking about BR ..

Quote: Muvka

How many unsuccessful launches of the BR last year were? Or the year before last? Do you understand what kind of crap are you talking about?

and you understand it perfectly ..

[Muvka]

What about? Are we discussing the military or what? Maybe stop flogging nonsense?

[Svarog]

Quote: Muvka

What about? Are we discussing the military or what? Maybe stop flogging nonsense?

Do not know what you are specifically discussing But do it with all the proletarian fervor You do not need to lower a lot on the ground .. that would be more objective to the ongoing processes. The fact that in China everything is bad with everything, in Europe, and so on. I hear every day .. And that in Russia everything is wonderful too, every day I hear, but I don’t see ..

[AUL]

I’m sitting here and racking my brains - what is this “military-diplomatic source”? Can I even name his initials?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Muvka

What about? Are we discussing the military or what? Maybe stop flogging nonsense?

which do not discuss, there does not smell of regularity !!! Well, current if in someone’s inadequate subjective perception !!!

[bk316]

Ours, too, do not shine, a lot of unsuccessful launches ..

very much - how much?
in 17 was ONE

[Svarog]

Here is a story in comparison with 2011 - to 2015.
Russia: 160 starts / 11 unsuccessful / failure rate 6,875%
USA: 109 starts / 6 unsuccessful / failure rate 5,5%
PRC: 101 launches / 3 unsuccessful / failure rate 2,97%
EU: 52 starts / 1 unsuccessful / failure rate 1,92%

Here you can see in detail http://www.nasha-strana.info/archives/2141
Well, about the military, we will never know ..

[mvg]

Here at your leisure and look at the nomenclature of PRC missiles and their performance characteristics. That winged, that ballistic (from tactical to mbr), high-precision, ATGM, etc.
Russia is at least not ahead (if only sea-based MBRs), but in terms of quantity it’s clear.

[Operator]

How about IQ?

The Russian Federation and the United States each individually are an order of magnitude ahead of the PRC in terms of the number of nuclear charges and their carriers, including strategic and tactical nuclear charges.

And it’s better not even to remember about the sloppy design of Chinese missiles (all without exception). For example, the Chinese, like chicken with an egg, were scampering with their land-based anti-ship ballistic missiles (the only ones in the world how their propaganda was broadcasting), and on March 1 they instantly ended up in the ass - the air-based dagger complex (MiG-31 + Iskander) worked out all 100% and mobile to amazement (900 relocation speed km / h).

You confuse the number of Chinese (1,5 billion) with their creativity (zero point zero).

[mvg]

I had about 151, and you? Still, dig around, maybe you will find the numbers. A dagger is, of course, a panacea. More on the Star did not show anything? How many daggers on combat duty then? Hooray idiocy has not been canceled .. yes.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: mvg

How many daggers on combat duty then? Hooray idiocy has not been canceled .. yes.

But not a single one. And even when they begin to appear, what will it change? The Americans did not attack the Russian Federation, they will not attack.

[karish]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: mvg

How many daggers on combat duty then? Hooray idiocy has not been canceled .. yes.

But not a single one. And even when they begin to appear, what will it change? Americans have not attacked the Russian Federation, and will not attack.

[Okolotochny]

Well, to bring the old senile Jew as evidence - this is your sink, there is really nothing to answer.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Okolotochny

Well, to bring the old senile Jew as evidence - this is your sink, there is really nothing to answer.

They will read this “insanity” when they forget about your grandchildren.

[Okolotochny]

I didn’t drink vodka with you and I hope I won’t have to. Such as you "sausage" emigrants can and will read it, we do not. As for memory, may Russia be magnified, may our names disappear. Is this familiar? Although unlikely.

[Okolotochny]

And what did this senile specifically do for his country? Wash water? Mind is not necessary. It is strange that this pro-Ukrainian Odessa resides in Russia, feeds here, and crap here.

[vasya.pupkin]

Quote: Okolotochny

Well, to bring the old senile Jew as evidence - this is your sink, there is really nothing to answer.

I don’t agree. This is a cunning Jew, far from a senile, but a railway driver! I distinguish the Jews I respect from the railroads by their ingenuity. He is from Odessa, has a luxurious apartment there and makes good money in Russia. I once respected him very much and had almost all the concert recordings on the "bobbins", but after May 2nd of the 14th, I hated him. As I said in. and. Lenin is a "political prostitute"!

[Okolotochny]

I agree, a Jew and a senile mutually exclusive concepts.

[mvg]

Good. They write that there is one side. Not reliable. But the situation is very reminiscent of the word "Caliber". As soon as the article contains Caliber or Khibin, or, God forbid, Rubella .. then immediately a "fat plus".
Not yet flying Sarmatia, a hypothetical Octopus, a Dagger, 2 dozen Caliber fighters who did not pass the GIS, in the amount of 2 pieces and all: "Tremble America, and common sense."
And two sides of the Su-57 in Syria, this is generally the finish. (Glushakov is a funeral) And no one even suggested that nothing could be tested in 2 days, but, most likely, "imperfections" were discovered and sent for correction.

[Operator]

mvg
You have some special IQ - you are not able to distinguish the “Dagger” from the “Dagger”

[mvg]

I am not good with knives, I understand so much that the machete that the katana is all on one face ...
Here is a knife for fish and for meat I will distinguish. And I’m supposed to put my own dirk.

[Operator]

Then you have a direct road from VO to the culinary site.

[mvg]

And you can tell in what areas we are leading in relation to China?

[dauria]

And you can tell in what areas we are leading in relation to China?

Our faces are "prettier." People here just forgot that the nuclear monopoly of the states lasted only 4 years. Well, you can not tear yourself away either from the United States or from China.

[mvg]

Well, more or less right. If 5-10 people begin to train in one group, from the master of sports to the green beginner, then in a year or two, that's all, about the same level .. plus or minus crumbs ..
All developed countries will catch up, where they can not mentally, then steal.
An example of Kazakhstan, China, India .. very soon, China will be the trendsetter in many areas. From space to the highest military technology.

[Setrac]

Quote: mvg

If 5-10 people begin to train in one group, from the master of sports to the green beginner, then in a year or two, that's all, about the same level .. plus or minus crumbs ..
All developed countries will catch up, where they can not mentally, then steal.

Only countries with developed fundamental science will catch up. USA, Europe - will catch up, the rest - no.

[aleks.29ru]

Putin: “They didn’t want to listen to us then? Listen now
Well listen to us ..

[Svarog]

Quote: Thracian warrior

a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

The demonstration must be arranged .. For spectacular .. Then the Western partners will rush to negotiations ..

[Vlad Petrov]

Let's persuade Trump to a peaceful biathlon-class competition to overcome missile defense with our warheads, charge them with fireworks and a goddamn for an example over the ocean. You can of course over the white house.

[Svarog]

Quote: Vlad Petrov

Let's persuade Trump to a peaceful biathlon-class competition to overcome missile defense with our warheads, charge them with fireworks and a goddamn for an example over the ocean. You can of course over the white house.

I am sure that he will not agree, but according to CNN they will say that the competition has passed and the ommerik won ..

[dr.star75]

If the United States had such weapons, they would have trampled us into the Stone Age a long time ago. I agree, you need to demonstrate it in action. And so it looks like a bluff.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Svarog

and the ommerik won ..

htosh in vysheboga doubted s

[Monos]

Quote: Vlad Petrov

Let's persuade Trump to a peaceful biathlon-class competition to overcome missile defense with our warheads, charge them with fireworks and a goddamn for an example over the ocean. You can of course over the white house.

And the sentence is not without meaning ...

[Monos]

Quote: Thracian Warrior

hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket in a couple of seconds

Envy silently.

[stalkerwalker]

But he cannot - he has diarrhea. And verbal too ....

[Partyzan]

Quote: Thracian Warrior

hyper super duper almighty rocket

envy silently, grow peppers better - you will be healthier

[andj61]

Quote: Partyzan

Quote: Thracian Warrior

hyper super duper almighty rocket

envy silently, grow peppers better - you will be healthier

Peppers will not work - EEC for Bulgaria quotas for growing Bulgarian pepper does not emit!

[vovanpain]

Quote: Thracian Warrior

the hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds

A military cardboard woke up, well, put a NATO missile defense system on its territory and you are provided with a hyper duper.

[ul_vitalii]

They were given a forum, such as warned - it means armed, but they do not appreciate it, wait, time heals. Good Saturday evening!

[Partyzan]

Quote: ul_vitalii

but they don’t appreciate it, wait

wait for your mom, wait for your mother

[Andrey K]

Quote: Thracian warrior

... a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :))) ...

According to the rules of the site, flood is prohibited.
Do you have something to say on the topic of the article?

[Saburov]

Quote: Thracian Warrior

a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

As long as there are fools in the world,
By deception, we live, therefore, with our hands.
What a blue sky
We are not supporters of robbery:
A fool not need a knife,
You’re lying to him from three baskets -
And do with it what you want!

Yours!

[romandostalo]

All this is good, if true. As they said: an optimist is a well-informed pessimist, I personally am a little confused by the phrase: "with reference to a military-diplomatic source" ..... It is very vague ....

[Setrac]

Quote: romandostalo

As they said: an optimist is a well-informed pessimist,

As they said: an optimist is a BAD informed pessimist,

[karish]

Quote: Setrac

Quote: romandostalo

As they said: an optimist is a well-informed pessimist,

As they said: an optimist is a BAD informed pessimist,

generally always said
A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.

[Setrac]

Quote: karish

A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.

From a change of place ...
I leash tweaked a phrase to the wrong saying romandostalo

[karish]

Quote: Setrac

Quote: karish

A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.

From the change of place of the terms... .
I leash tweaked a phrase to the wrong saying romandostalo

changing and how

7/11/14
12:01 am
Hussar
If I had a horse, it would be a number. If the horse had me, I probably would have died.

[Setrac]

Quote: karish

changing and how

Are you from Odessa?

[karish]

Quote: Setrac

Quote: karish

changing and how

Are you from Odessa?

Why did you decide that?

[Xnumx vis]

20 mach .. 24 thousand kilometers per hour the speed of this weapon. Like Perun, the old Russian god (the name Perun has the meaning of “striking, striking, smashing (thunder and lightning)”) will strike the adversary with inevitable lightning! WEAPON RETURNS RUSSIA.

[siberalt]

They say while foreign media, and political scientists. But what did the hegemon or NATO leaders swallow languages, or is there nothing to say?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: siberalt

They say while foreign media, and political scientists. But what did the hegemon or NATO leaders swallow languages, or is there nothing to say?

And what have these prototypes changed for them? The Russian Federation and today can destroy the USA and Europe.

[Okolotochny]

For prototypes proofs bring? And you have already heard from you "completely destroyed Syrian air defense."

[Okolotochny]

Your screams and sinks are counted. Does the case have something to say? Or will you be offended to live like that?

[andj61]

Quote: Thracian warrior

a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

The hyper-super-duper Bulgarian missile remains at its launcher: during the time that has passed since the collapse of the Warsaw Pact organization, Soviet missiles are hopelessly outdated, they have expired, specialists trained in the USSR have long retired, and nothing new is expected . And the current Thracian warriors from Bulgaria, as well as more than 2000 years ago, during the time of Spartacus, will fight with knives. Or, at worst, unlicensed Kalash illegally produced in Bulgaria.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Thracian Warrior

a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

It is clearly said: on combat duty. In the know, what is combat duty?
We’ll get to the moon, the striped rifle is still confused underfoot, it is a hindrance.

[Mountain shooter]

It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ...

In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president. Their general message is the following: in the presence of mutual deterrent nuclear potential, new missiles do little to change, since they are not suitable for small wars, and only a suicide can start a nuclear war. However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

[Svarog]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ...

In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president. Their general message is the following: in the presence of mutual deterrent nuclear potential, new missiles do little to change, since they are not suitable for small wars, and only a suicide can start a nuclear war. However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

Well, there have never been technological contracts either .. and as for finances, they have also been limited for a long time .. Yes, and to the account of suicides, with such things they may not have time to answer
Israel must go to Moscow more often .. time to change shoes

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Svarog

Well, there have never been technological contracts either .. and as for finances, they have also been limited for a long time .. Yes, and to the account of suicides, with such things they may not have time to answer

Yes of course.

[Svarog]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Svarog

Well, there have never been technological contracts either .. and as for finances, they have also been limited for a long time .. Yes, and to the account of suicides, with such things they may not have time to answer

Yes of course.

Can you name at least one? Opel did not give to buy this and that

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Svarog

Can you name at least one? Opel did not give to buy this and that

Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

[ML-334]

Something our boys, under the star of David, got nervous. Why would it be? Where is the feeling of superiority? Do not you think that nature is behind us?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: ML-334

Something our boys, under the star of David, got nervous. Why would it be? Where is the feeling of superiority? Do not you think that nature is behind us?

I did not understand, in your opinion, any discrepancy with the point of view prevailing on the forum does this mean to be nervous?

[Mestny]

It certainly was an irony.
But animal Russophobia and complete contempt for Russia and especially Russian from all of you can be seen with the naked eye.
Especially vividly and viciously boils at the mention of the successes of Russia.
Well, yes, we all know this, and remember.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Mestny

It certainly was an irony.
But animal Russophobia and complete contempt for Russia and especially Russian from all of you can be seen with the naked eye.
Especially vividly and viciously boils at the mention of the successes of Russia.
Well, yes, we all know this, and remember.

You will not be offended if I do not answer such nonsense?

[ML-334]

Maybe it was just the “chosen” and the “exceptional” that the idea was to convey that everyone walks under God in a milder form and Russia is no longer a whipping boy. The tone of the comment has changed for you, that's why I noticed.

[karish]

Quote: ML-334

Do not you think that nature is behind us?

And what is the slogan
-We are Russian God with us ---- is not enough?

[Mestny]

This is the slogan of your failed pupil, Hitler.

[ML-334]

There are too many matches, Israel does not notice?

[karish]

Quote: ML-334

Coincidences too much, Israel does not notice?

Today +25

Quote: ML-334

Gazka is not necessary

If only Freon 22 or 134 - it's hot.

[ML-334]

It’s a pity, but it was just the surplus that appeared, to whom to get involved. As you are unlucky, Africa also sweeps it, but at least henna!

[shans2]

"We are Russians, what a delight!" (C) - Suvorov


in Russia it’s customary to say to say “Well, with God” ... and not God with us .....

[Svarog]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Svarog

Can you name at least one? Opel did not give to buy this and that

Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

In the West imported technology? no did not know I won’t tell you about the news .. and in general, what you are talking about is not technology, but the production of certain components that we don’t have .. and there is just all the technology .. I must say, we have very little production. But I hope with the filing of our sworn partners, we’ll begin to move in this direction ..

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Svarog

In the West imported technology? :

Read.
https://dvizhok.su/parts/myi-razobrali-lada-vesta
-iz-chego-i-kak-ona-sdelana

[Svarog]

Aron, once again, and in the superjet and in the West is full of spare parts from foreign manufacturers. But we know the production technology of these parts, well, at least, if there is an irresistible desire to produce them, I’m sure they will. And some really serious technologies were never given to us and they weren’t allowed to take them to the shot.

[mvg]

Sorry, but whose engine is on the West? What about the transmission? Probably Russians, as they are trying to do in Russia?

[vovanpain]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate

Aaron Do you think that Russia can be kicked endlessly, watered with slops, crushed by sanctions and not get anything back? They endured for a long time, oh, how long, you yourself know how many concerns expressed by our leadership were expressed and what passions were at least boiling in VO, sorry Aron how much you can endure rudeness. This does not apply to you, you are a respected colleague at VO, you must understand that the rudeness of the leadership of the United States and NATO has borders.

Quote: Aron Zaavi

In the US, most leading media outlets reacted quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president

Media is the media, who pays the media and orders the music, but the leadership of the United States and NATO, and yours is also told your word, the smart ones will understand, but whoever likes to show off will continue to drive show off. Regards Aron!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Svarog

Can you name at least one? Opel did not give to buy this and that

Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

but nitsche that they use our periodic table ???

[Svarog]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Svarog

Can you name at least one? Opel did not give to buy this and that

Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

but nitsche that they use our periodic table ???

Here! It would be no matter how monetize .. And then the Americans have patents for everything, patent and let them pay

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Svarog

Can you name at least one? Opel did not give to buy this and that

Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

but nitsche that they use our periodic table ???

Here! It would be no matter how monetize .. And then the Americans have patents for everything, patent and let them pay

what American patent do we build Vesta or SuperJet on? Is it really a "patent" for aerodynamics or a "law" of motion ???

[Svarog]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Svarog

Can you name at least one? Opel did not give to buy this and that

Do you know how many imported technologies are in the same West or Superjet? Maybe I'm wrong, but the economic war between Russia and the West will now escalate.

but nitsche that they use our periodic table ???

Here! It would be no matter how monetize .. And then the Americans have patents for everything, patent and let them pay

what American patent do we cost Vesta or SuperJet ??? Is it really a "patent" for aerodynamics or a "law" of motion ???

Is it you me or Arona Understand saturday

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Svarog

Is that me or Arona I understand Saturday

yes uzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh, sorry ... even though your opuses about rockets and regularity look at the level of Aronovsky opuses, but nevertheless in this case the error came out !!!

[Russia]

So everything was calculated and declared in the first person.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

however, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

Aaron tell me, and much more restrict, further, so to speak restriction, will lead to complete confrontation, and do you really think that Russia will look at it silently? yes, they will refrain from nuclear strikes, but there will be no nuclear direct clashes, Putin made it clear by his message that they won’t wipe their feet more on Russia, but if he doesn’t keep this promise, the number of supporters of the fifth column will increase sharply, and they could demolish it, this west will make a choice

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Partyzan

Aaron tell me, and much more restrict, further, so to speak restriction, will lead to complete confrontation, and do you really think that Russia will look at it silently? yes, they will refrain from nuclear strikes, but there will be no nuclear direct clashes, Putin made it clear by his message that they won’t wipe their feet more on Russia, but if he doesn’t keep this promise, the number of supporters of the fifth column will increase sharply, and they could demolish it, this west will make a choice

Well, banks can, for example, stop insuring any investments in the Russian Federation, including any joint projects.
I honestly don’t quite understand what non-nuclear collisions mean? Where? In Syria and Ukraine? Well, maybe. This is even curious.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Well, banks can, for example, stop insuring any investments in the Russian Federation, including any joint projects.

there are practically none of them already, the same banks do not want to be sanctioned because they see how their political leaders react to this, and I hope you do not need to remind them of what striped can do - Deutsche Bank?

[Operator]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

banks may for example stop insuring any investments in the Russian Federation

If Western banks stop insuring investments in Russia, they will be insured by Chinese or Russian banks.

In addition, Russia generally can do without Western investments (money investments) - it needs the missing (so far) technologies first of all, and it can invest in them from its own or Chinese means (see the Soviet industrialization of the 1930's).

[karish]

Quote: Operator

If Western banks stop insuring investments in Russia, they will be insured by Chinese or Russian banks.

The Chinese will not, and in this case, they are not reliable for Russian insurance

Quote: Operator

In addition, Russia in general can do without Western investment (investment)

Of course he can.
Due to internal reserves.
Well, for example, over the next couple of years, the NWF will finish completely. Well, the same pension.

Quote: Operator

first of all, she needs the missing technologies (so far), and she can invest in them from her or Chinese funds

Can Russia invest from Chinese funds? What is it like ?
And who will sell the technology?

[Operator]

First, admit that you were mistaken, for some reason starting a conversation about investment insurance, and then I will answer your questions "where to get money for investments" and "who will sell the technology."

[karish]

Quote: Operator

First admit that you were mistaken, for some reason starting a conversation about investment insurance

And without insurance no one invests

Quote: Operator

"where to get money for investment"

where

Quote: Operator

"who will sell the technology."

who?

[Okolotochny]

To be interesting, the article is not for Israel, but the evil Jews were horrified? Sick of you sick?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Okolotochny

To be interesting, the article is not for Israel, but the evil Jews were horrified? Sick of you sick?

Evening, Shabbat. Interesting topic. Why not?

[siberalt]

Yeah. They will also compensate for the sanctions.

[Operator]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

In the United States, most leading media outlets reacted quite calmly.

A minority of leading US media, therefore, fell into hysteria and diarrhea

Read less waste paper and listen more to statements by official representatives of the Presidential Administration, the US Department of Defense and the US Department of State - they stated the following:
- we have long been aware of the presence of the Russian “Vanguard”, “Dagger”, an underwater drone and an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant;
- The Russians never had a Vanguard, a Dagger, an underwater drone and an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant.

After this, the stupor that the US leadership at all levels fell into and the break in their logic actually confirms the presence of all the declared types of weapons in the Russian Federation becomes clear.

[Setrac]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

And before that they were limitless? All non-military methods that could be used against us have already been applied.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Setrac

And before that they were limitless? All non-military methods that could be used against us have already been applied.

I think the serious ones have not even begun.

[Setrac]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

I think the serious ones have not even begun.

For example??

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Setrac

Quote: Aron Zaavi

I think the serious ones have not even begun.

For example??

Restrictions on the purchase of Russian hydrocarbons.

[Setrac]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Restrictions on the purchase of Russian hydrocarbons.

I always liked your national humor.
Everything is somewhat different if Russia suddenly stops exporting raw materials - a war will immediately begin against it, and the whole world will be against us. The West needs our raw materials, Russia does not need its export.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president.

Demarche? Well, demarche is so demarche. "..in limiting financial and technological contacts ..".
“Damn, where is my financial and technological contacts with America?” The Russian population was thoughtful.
We’ll get by with telephones, telephones and Sino-Korean, bucks are also somehow not ice anymore, Windows have been broken for a long time.
Ah, comrades from the government are waiting for a magical investment. Maybe fuck the government for a couple with America?

[Hierarch]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ...

Then there was no fifth column. Chubais and others. Say Putin can not cope with them? But the people gave the right to this. So what happened?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

a good election move when everything is in the hands ... the rivals seem naked ...

[karish]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

a good election move when everything is in hand.

reminded

[Svarog]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

a good election move when everything is in the hands ... the rivals seem naked ...

And laughter and sin ..

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

a good election move when everything is in the hands ... the rivals seem naked ...

link to the site with this photo can ???

[Mestny]

We read carefully.
Here admiration for comparison with the times of the USSR is just expressed. Not a 5 column. Chubais apparently did not interfere.
Or ... or, is all this done contrary to the bloody dictator?

[Hierarch]

And now they have been interfering for many years? Or are there other reasons?

[Hierarch]

By the way, I won’t be surprised if, after the succession of the elections and the throwing of bonnets, all this will sink into oblivion ....

[romandostalo]

Aaron, there’s such a thing that it’s possible that something else will come up about the ABM ......

[ul_vitalii]

You don’t even have to sit at the negotiating table, they know well. Gradually, it will reach them.

[marsel1524]

still no, the time has come: slippers in the mouth and a bow to the Most Serene. Remember the president’s decree to dispose of plutonium? Here is his teeth and forward on his hind legs.

[shans2]

who does not remember, I will remind it the most, an ultimatum ...

[MadCat]

Quote: ul_vitalii

You don’t even have to sit at the negotiating table, they know well. Gradually, it will reach them.

and what has changed? Well, a couple of prototypes of new toys have appeared, is Russia going to use them? Armageddon arrange? In Soviet times, I remember America was not afraid to impose sanctions, why would they suddenly make concessions now?

[marsel1524]

It seems to me that the situation is comparable to August 45, when the Yankees have a bomb, but we do not have it. The point is not that it is afraid to apply or not, but that there is no protection against it, and who needs to understand this. And now they have one way to sit down and negotiate.

[Partyzan]

Quote: marsel1524

And now they have one way to sit down and negotiate.

or just sit down, on command

[Russia]

Oh, another fly (MadCat) flew in, "daughter of an officer."

[MadCat]

Quote: Rusland

Oh, another fly (MadCat) flew in, "daughter of an officer."

Another pinched tail pinched? sit and do not shine while the adults are talking.

[vovanpain]

Quote: MadCat

sit and do not shine while the adults are talking.

Rude is not necessary an adult.

[Mestny]

Calm.
These citizens do not read articles; they have one mantra about "all is lost" and bad Putin.
Another little effort, and such will begin to drive from everywhere. Already really fed up - neither rhetoric nor arguments change.
Howl without a spark.

[Russia]

No (MadCat), I think you would be disappointed if the babies saw me.

[Fedorov]

It has changed that the missile defense system is mattress, a bunch of roach and years of development can be lowered into the toilet.
They will not make concessions, but US psychiatrists will not be left without work for sure.
Well, how can you serve, if you know - there is no protection, it can get out of nowhere and no one will even warn you that there would be a prayer, for example ...

[Operator]

That's right - everyone somehow forgets that two parties are participating in the arms race in the United States: the Government (payer) and the military-industrial complex (money recipient).

For the military-industrial complex, everything will be in chocolate.

But for the Government, the situation looks superhero: for a quarter of a century, about 15 trillion dollars of taxpayers have been invested in the US military potential, and Russia, with the help of penny costs, has reset them all. You can, of course, invest another hundred trillion dollars before 2050, but where is the guarantee that Russia will not reset them again with the help of new (again, cheap) weapons.

In any case, for the United States this is a direct path to economic bankruptcy - the share of spending on new types of weapons in their budget will be two orders of magnitude higher than the share of military spending in the budget of the Russian Federation, despite the fact that budgets differ by only an order of magnitude.

[Maz]

It is necessary to put this nuclear engine on a spaceship, and preferably two, for insurance. And fly through the solar system. And on the Moon there is a bus station for minibuses, sho go to Mars and Venus to drive off. Let your elbows bite your chosen and special. But this is no longer a joke. We can quite grab the whole ecliptic from Mercury to Pluto inclusive! It is urgent to write a law on new lands, their affiliation, the priority of the discoverers and to land troops. and these, with their God, let them poke around here. The lesson of Alaska we will not forget. Not an inch of ecliptic land for sale. Make the moon a special international zone.

[Reserve buildbat]

This is impossible, because the device is heavier than air, cannot fly! And if it takes off, with God's help, it will crash against the firmament of heaven!

[Ace Tambourine]

Rename the Moon to New Russia, Mars to Alaska, Venus to California ...
Only no offense partners .. This is all our territory, and you are only tenants ... nonsense ...

[andrewkor]

Read Oleg Divov's "Profession Inquisitor" he has everything for you! I highly recommend it! You will not regret!

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Maz

It is necessary to put this nuclear engine on a spaceship

For some reason, it seems to me that they will do so soon. To accelerate and put into orbit a pulsed engine, and then a nuclear one. But the assembly shop still needs to be created in orbit before that.

[Ace Tambourine]

yeah ...
and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..

[Partyzan]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..

soram - Do you have any idea what a closed-type nuclear engine is to push into a pipe 30 cm in diameter? and if it was done for armament, consumables, then this is not economically stressful, well, now you stick it in?

[Ace Tambourine]

Read more carefully the primary sources ...
Ramjet engine ....
After what time will we bend everything after launching in the atmosphere of at least one such stray?

[Partyzan]

Quote: Ace Tambourine

Read more carefully the primary sources ...
Ramjet engine ....
After what time will we bend everything after launching in the atmosphere of at least one such stray?

I don’t know, your source looked at the message, though he thought he would send it further, but the nuclear nuclear engine converts thermal energy, and it’s closed

[Setrac]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

yeah ...
and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..

Everything is exactly the opposite, a nuclear power plant will reduce the cost of space flights by orders of magnitude.

[Alex-a832]

Our engineers work wonders. As for the bourgeois countries ... as the saying goes: "God did not give horns to a vigorous cow." It is scary to imagine if, for example, mattress engineers invented similar weapons before ours.

[Ace Tambourine]

we wouldn’t even know about it ...
and what a need for knowledge for the dead ...

[Setrac]

Quote: Alex-a832

It is scary to imagine if, for example, mattress engineers invented similar weapons before ours.

Why would inventions wake up in mattresses?

[Fedorov]

Well, RT is the state cantor, respectively, and the "source" is the same .... But if everything is true ..
This is what level of secrecy should have been in development and testing. that even the mattresses profiled, although for two years infa type "broke through". But no one believed.
Well done
Accordingly, the Liana space reconnaissance and target designation system is operating at full capacity, and not only in the pilot duty mode ... I hope.

[MadCat]

Quote: Fedorov

Well this is what level of secrecy should have been in the development and testing of the request, that even the mattresses have profiled, although for two years infa type "broke through". But no one believed.
Well done

Based on the statues in the yellow press, do you claim that the Americans knew nothing? this is too brilliant conclusion.

[Mestny]

Even if they knew - what does this change in the message about the start of mass production of this type of weapons in our country.
I emphasize - serial.

[Tusv]

Quote: Fedorov

that even the mattress mattresses profiled, although for two years infa type "broke through". But no one believed.

Come on. For four years, American media have been trumpeting that the Russians and the Chinese have bypassed them in hypersound

[Ivan.A]

Good news. A good argument for pressure on the Anglo-Saxons. Not negotiations, but pressure. It is time for us to tell them how to live on Mother Earth.

[Herculesic]

In my opinion, Putin made his televised debates absolutely senseless with his speech, and sent competitors out! Now there are "little things" to do, to really deal with corruption, and the economy! Corruption must be tackled with the return of the death penalty, and the economy with the nationalization of the Central Bank and the resignation of the Vedmedev and Nabibulin.

[Ace Tambourine]

Yes, at least to return the confiscation ... it’s worse for them than the wall ..

[Rushnairfors]

Men, I will say so, I don’t know anything about the avant-garde (I’m sure, like anyone on this site), but as for the dagger, I’ll say the following: until March 1, I didn’t hear about him, but after the president voiced it was terrible how interesting. He called the kashnik from 31x, his answer stunned me - he is and is being tested. Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this

[Rushnairfors]

At the moment, we have one side under it, but the dough is poured into it without sparing, so at least one of the types of weapons announced by the GDP exists in real life, we will keep our fingers crossed so that the tests are successful and this miraculous complex really goes into troops

[Odysseus]

Quote: Rushnairfors

At the moment, we have one side under it,

As an experiment with one old Mig-31 board as a carrier, yes. But you are a military man, you understand that this is a huge distance from a real product with advertised characteristics to the troops.

[Rushnairfors]

I completely agree with you on this. But at least not everything that fairy tales tell us is happy

[Mestny]

Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this

They didn’t say that. They said that on HBS.

[Sergei1982]

Quote: Rushnairfors

He called the kashnik from 31x, his answer stunned me - he is and is being tested. Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this

Then what is the meaning of the X-32? Or the speed and ceiling of the Tu-22M3 do not allow to realize everything that the Dagger and MiG-31 can do better for this. In general, it turns out that everything that the GDP said is true to one degree or another. In favor of the KR version with YaSU, it is said that two SKIPs were taken out of storage (they were in the LII since 1995), they were restored, modernized and given to the RFNC.

[tchoni]

Russia has the newest avant-garde hypersonic strategic complex. Russia has a "Dagger" and other ultra-modern weapons systems, which Putin said. And high-precision weapons of the new generation are already on combat duty

I don’t know what we have .... So far, everyone has seen only cartoons)

[Tatar 174]

Quote: tchoni

I don’t know what we have .... So far, everyone has seen only cartoons

Also galleries Tatar, type I will not believe until I check? I’m definitely a Tatar, but I believed right away, at such a level they don’t lie about this, it’s not about “raising pensions”, which they just remember before the elections ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Tartar 174

Quote: tchoni

I don’t know what we have .... So far, everyone has seen only cartoons

Also galleries Tatar, type I will not believe until I check? I’m definitely a Tatar, but I believed right away, at such a level they don’t lie about this, it’s not about “raising pensions”, which they just remember before the elections ...

There may be a half-truth .. developments are underway, there are successes, but it will take years to introduce into the series .. Personally, I would be glad if this is true .. but I also have doubts ..

[tchoni]

Quote: Tatar 174

Also galleries Tatar, type I will not believe until I check?

Which one. Even with a khokhlyatsky bias But, this ha south of Russia does not surprise anyone)))

Quote: Tatar 174

I’m definitely a Tatar, but I believed right away, at such a level they don’t lie about this, uh

From what!? The president is a politician - but for a politician to lie and not negotiate is like breathing. About the "armature" they lied. They promised at 15 to the troops ... And in fact, only to the 20th mu and then the battle kit.

[Jerk]

Yes, this is hyper-blubber. Sa-avsem is not mythological (in the sense of not existing) railgun. I think that the coolest thing they’re shooting right now is not in Germany, but in the USA, specifically in the CIA and instead of “I-I” it says “Overslept! Overslept !!!”

[Hurricane70]

Quote: Thracian warrior

a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

Very funny! Although you have a discount ...

[Samara_63]

With a population density in the USA ... this is an irreparable loss of 100% ... the Yankees will simply be destroyed ...

[Ivan.A]

Quote: hrych

That's exactly what drinks are. They threw all their strength and money at Aegis and Stealth, and the Dark Lord did fantastic things. By the way, they are not so fantastic, all within the framework of progress. But Hegemon is no longer Hegemon, but so second-rate power wassat

To my deep regret, in addition to the Stealth and Aegis, they still have $, they can still dictate their financial benefits to the whole world

[faiver]

It sounds beautiful, but apart from words and cartoons I haven’t seen anything yet ....

[Odysseus]

Brilliantly. There is only one small problem. The West, to which they appeal so invitingly and desperately, well, talk to us, well, sit down at the negotiating table, well, please .... for some reason, you won’t heed so many touching calls, but replies that these calls “negate discussion between the West and the Russian Federation on a number of issues ”
How so ? What could have gone wrong here?

[Mestny]

Nobody appeals to him invitingly and desperately.
Last warning. This is a little different.

[kaserog]

Quote: Jerk

Yes, this is hyper-blubber. Sa-avsem is not mythological (in the sense of not existing) railgun. I think that the coolest thing they’re shooting right now is not in Germany, but in the USA, specifically in the CIA and instead of “I-I” it says “Overslept! Overslept !!!”

in the middle of P to P change

[lopvlad]

Strategic complex "Vanguard"

it’s even scary to imagine what characteristics a weapon capable of intercepting a warhead rushing towards a target at a speed of under 21 thousand kilometers per hour (about 20 max) should be possessed while intensively maneuvering.
It looks like the arms race really ended for the next several decades on March 1, 2018.

[Ace Tambourine]

I want to disappoint you ...
The whole secret of the magic bubbles is that Garant’s PR managers foolishly messed up the dates, and this appeal was to take place on April 1, and not on March 1 ...
Striped !!
You can exhale ...

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

I want to disappoint you

continue to reassure yourself that the USA is ahead and that you have chosen the right star-striped ass for kissing. Even your overseas owners have believed and are rushing hysterically over a colorless house.

[tchoni]

Quote: lopvlad

Strategic complex "Vanguard"

it’s even scary to imagine what characteristics a weapon capable of intercepting a warhead rushing towards a target at a speed of under 21 thousand kilometers per hour (about 20 max) should be possessed while intensively maneuvering.
It looks like the arms race really ended for the next several decades on March 1, 2018.

roughly like rim161

On February 21, 2008, the SM-3 rocket was launched from the Lake Erie cruiser in the Pacific Ocean and three minutes after the launch [16] it was hit by a USA-247 emergency reconnaissance satellite located at an altitude of 193 kilometers, moving at a speed of 7 m / s [ 580] (17 km / h).

quote from wikipedia.
In the ten years that we will need to put into service all this cartoonish grace, guys from the United States will deploy a dozen more positional areas, and those Sarmatian gliders will simply have nowhere to fly.
So the guarantor can safely be given the title of honorary citizen of the United States for his enormous contribution to the development of the industrial and defense potential of this country

[Setrac]

Quote: tchoni

On February 21, 2008, the SM-3 rocket was launched from the Lake Erie cruiser in the Pacific Ocean and three minutes after the launch [16] it was hit by a USA-247 emergency reconnaissance satellite located at an altitude of 193 kilometers, moving at a speed of 7 m / s [ 580] (17 km / h).

SM-3 have a kinetic warhead and can only hit non-maneuvering ballistic targets.

[leon1204id]

Infa little, the most brief description and sensible: http: //fb.ru/article/165641/raketa-rs-ru
bej-avangard-tehnicheskie-harakteristiki-i-foto
Range 6000 km maximum. So the planning head falls further. Actually with the first space speed of about 8000km / h. It is not clear to the end whether it is controlled or is it using the firmware?
Well, we have experience, the same and Buran So, which is very likely. Yes, and worked on this sooooo long, and told before the election.

[Hurricane70]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It started. Now the "partners" are not allowed to come to their senses, and "rearrange the rhetoric" ... Everyone is in a state of complete "zugzwang" and time pressure ...
But what is the degree of secrecy! Like in the good old days ... When the satellite "Beep-beep-beep ..." And no one sleeps with a spirit ...

In the United States, most leading media outlets responded quite calmly to the demarche of the Russian president. Their general message is the following: in the presence of mutual deterrent nuclear potential, new missiles do little to change, since they are not suitable for small wars, and only a suicide can start a nuclear war. However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and a reaction will follow in limiting financial and technological contacts.

This is with some fright then: "... new missiles change little ..." ???
If they deployed missile defense around the Russian Federation on land, plus numerous naval forces at sea, are they covering Europe? No, Russia is being restrained at long distances! Well, try to hold back hypersound? And how then it turns out that under the water around your allies there is also a lot of "sleeping", so it’s very much changing in our affairs with mattresses ...

[Denis Obukhov]

I just don’t understand one thing. If the product flies in a cloud of plasma. how is it controlled, because in this case the radio signals do not pass. During the descent of spacecraft at the stage of entry into the dense layers, communication is lost ... Or do I not understand something?

[Viktor.12.71]

All is correct. Oh, and I have doubts about this complex, especially after the announcement of a nuclear engine for a cruise missile, but after all, the Americans already went along this path with the Pluto project already in 1964. And what about the direct-flow engines for supersonic? Loud statements, cartoons and only how Eun does it.

[JIaIIoTb]

It develops an algorithm of "behavior", becomes unpredictable for pro, which reduces the ability to bring it down to almost zero ..

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

I want to disappoint you ...

Are you the daughter of an officer again? .

[Ace Tambourine]

Well no...
Try to imagine a suicide meteorite trying to maneuver on 20 Machs ... Just count the overloads ...
And it's just a stone, and ento, a rocket, is a rather fragile product ..

[Operator]

If you suffer from dementia, then do not use words that you do not understand ("rocket"), as applied to the payload of ICBMs.

"D. Bily", - S. Lavrov (C)

[Aloemc]

First of all, you need to say thank you not to GDP, but to designers and scientists. Here they are the creators, the homeland should be proud of them.

We look forward to an early announcement on the introduction of all these "surprises" into mass production.

[Mestny]

Yes, of course, nothing to do with GDP. This is all the heroes-designers did in the basement, secretly from the bloody thieves' regime, which did not pay them all this time and forced them to vote for Putin.
Now the heroes of the factory workers will secretly introduce into serial production.
Well, of course, they all lack freedom, socialism and a new leader.

[Aloemc]

Quote: Mestny

Yes, of course, nothing to do with GDP. This is all the heroes-designers did in the basement, secretly from the bloody thieves' regime, which did not pay them all this time and forced them to vote for Putin.
Now the heroes of the factory workers will secretly introduce into serial production.
Well, of course, they all lack freedom, socialism and a new leader.

Hmm ... And what about the thieves' regime and the basement? The GDP itself sat and solved the most complicated mathematical and physical problems, came up with new materials. Well ok, what. I understand your logic and your intellect; you may not answer, for it is a pity for you.

[Setrac]

Quote from AloeMC

Hmm ... And what about the thieves' regime and the basement? The GDP itself sat and solved the most complicated mathematical and physical problems, came up with new materials.

Well, for example, did the same Mask also sit in the basement and personally solve the most complicated mathematical and physical problems, come up with new materials, build rockets? Or maybe Beria himself designed the atomic bomb?

[Denis Obukhov]

Judging by the reaction of the Western "partners", the Russian technological breakthrough in the missile industry came as a complete surprise to them. Conclusion: Russian intelligence services outplayed the intelligence services of the West. "Trifle", but nice.

[keeper03]

I would make more specific suggestions:
1) the return of the American contingent of NATO to its permanent deployment in the United States;
2) the disbandment of US missile defense centers in Europe;
3) the abolition of the NATO military bloc;
4) the beginning of the elimination of US military bases around the world.
This is to start the conversation, so to speak!

[Svarog]

Quote: keeper03

I would make more specific suggestions:
1) the return of the American contingent of NATO to its permanent deployment in the United States;
2) the disbandment of US missile defense centers in Europe;
3) the abolition of the NATO military bloc;
4) the beginning of the elimination of US military bases around the world.
This is to start the conversation, so to speak!

It's more like the end of a conversation

[Ace Tambourine]

let me add another item;
5) Immediate doubling ... no, tenfold dose of haloperidol to VO commentators.
Everyone !!!

[arlekin]

Quote: Ace Tambourine

let me add another item;
5) Immediate doubling ... no, tenfold dose of haloperidol to VO commentators.
Everyone !!!

Well, why are you like this? Yes, let them rejoice, do you feel sorry for something?
They celebrate Victory, and, judging by the comments, no later than Monday expect surrender of all countries to accept.

[Ace Tambourine]

You are cruel ...

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Ace Tambourine

let me add another item;
5) Immediate doubling ... no, tenfold dose of haloperidol to VO commentators.
Everyone !!!

If I am not mistaken, then Ace Tambourine is also a commentator on VO. Active.
More than others, more exceptional than others, or loves tenfold doses of haloperidol?

[Viktor.12.71]

Quote: keeper03

This is to start the conversation, so to speak! hi

To start a conversation, you need to at least show this weapon in action, in a training ground and for the whole world, and only then present it. And so they laugh and stigmatize the second Eun.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Viktor.12.71

To start a conversation, you need to at least show this weapon in action, in a training ground and for the whole world, and only then present it. And so they laugh and stigmatize the second Eun.

And what at once Eunom? As far as I remember, in the American SOI, too, besides cartoons, there was nothing and could not be. But in that case, everyone who could only scream that the Americans were good fellows - to breed so stupid Russians from scratch! Che too ..

[Viktor.12.71]

Quote: Vasyan1971

SOI

The Americans had Pluto in 64 years of the 20th century. Now they have an X-37 that has been flying in space for ten years now. This is not cartoons for you. Moreover, how do you imagine the serial production without testing? We spotted the X-37 in space without any problems, if the Vanguard had experienced it, everyone would have known about it and would have shown it on the news, in the age of technology it is very difficult to hide something, especially such projects.

[Vasyan1971]

These are all details and trifles, because Russia has such a thing as maskirovka and places like the Urals and Siberia, where you can hide a damn bald one if you wish. A "meteorite" in Chelyabinsk, why not the tests of the "Vanguard"? And who knows these wild Russians?
There is a war going on, and war is a way of deception. Where you are weak - show that you are strong, and where you are strong - show that you are weak. Well, or something like that ...

[Viktor.12.71]

Maybe. If the Vanguard reactor is similar to the American Tori-2C of the year, then the emission of radiation would be enormous, even if launched from Siberia. The most important thing is that during the test this rocket does not burst, then hello irradiation to half of the population of Russia, even an American strike is not necessary.

[Incvizitor]

5) The Return of Alaska
6) Mexico Returns Occupied Texas
7) Native Americans return to their ancestral lands

[Setrac]

Quote: keeper03

This is to start the conversation, so to speak!

That’s why all this is for Russia? Would you like to once again fight with a united Europe?

[Ice]

Hooray comrades! It is necessary to "expand the space of freedom" as the leader tells!
With the help of this super weapon of Putin, it will be possible to finally destroy all the s.
True ramjet can rocket
and where the rocket flies will be dead land.
But these are trifles.

[Ace Tambourine]

These are not trifles at all!
Unfortunately in VO there are too many USEshny idiots ...
As an example ...
Partyzan Today, 18:25 ↑
Quote: Ace Tambourine
and the denouement of the economic navel after 5-10 launches ..
Soram - do you have any idea what a closed-type nuclear engine is to push into a 30 cm diameter pipe? and if it was done for armament, consumables, then this is not economically stressful, well, now you stick it in?

[Mestny]

Where did you come from such a handsome man that you call decent people with fools?
Do not like patriotism? Or love, but only when the belly is full and warm in itself?
So this is familiar to us.

[Ace Tambourine]

Well no...
Patriot in general ...
Yes, only recently I got confused why to patriot;
For Russia and its people?
For the oligarchs who hate this people and suffer only as a means of livelihood?
For the Guarantor who patronizes them?
For bravura speech instead of specific cases?
For the fact that we again suck on the old candy in a new wrapper?
Explain to me, the old fool, I hope then you will become more clear ...

[bk316]

Change the record. Well, really, don’t change it - they will replace the software bots. What is the point of the State Department paying you for such hack

[Viktor.12.71]

The Americans in 1964 had a Pluto project, with a ready-made nuclear engine. They were smart enough to cover the project.

[Mestny]

On the contrary.
Mind was not enough, I had to cover it.

[Operator]

Quote: Viktor.12.71

The Americans in the 1964 year had a Pluto project

The trick is that the Pluto used an open type nuclear power plant, while the Russian intercontinental cruise missile used a closed one.

The mind of the American developers was not enough.

[Viktor.12.71]

Quote: Operator

intercontinental cruise missile - closed.

And how do you see it? This is not nuclear powered ships.

[Operator]

For example, this way: plutonium oxide is a ceramic that is correctly sintered and is not washed out by liquid heat carrier - lead, which heats the air (and, accordingly, cools) in the propulsion chamber behind the air intake of a supersonic cruise missile.

The task of pumping the coolant can be solved using a linear electric motor, powered by current from a thermionic converter, made in the form of a shell of the propulsion chamber.

The problem is only “properly sintered” plutonium oxide. But, apparently, ours decided it.

[Yura Yakovlev]

Without plutonium oxide, there are many things there. Ceramic sintering technology has long been developed on the skin for Buran

[Viktor.12.71]

Quote: Yura Yakovlev

Ceramic sintering technology has long been developed on the skin for Buran

The Americans in Tori 2C used high-temperature ceramic beryllium oxide to fabricate reactor fuel elements. It was mixed with zirconia (stabilizing additive) and uranium dioxide. In the ceramic company Kursa, the plastic mass was pressed under high pressure, and then sintered. As a result, getting fuel elements. That is, the Tory 2C was fully functional and passed the tests successfully.

[Yura Yakovlev]

"plastic mass was pressed under high pressure"
American db. Slip casting is much simpler, but this is said to be a technical matter.

[Viktor.12.71]

But I wonder what ours decided with the release of a huge amount of radiation when starting a nuclear engine, which put an end to the American project of the Kyrgyz Republic. If I’m not mistaken under the USSR, the “peaceful atom” projects were also led, but the project also came to a standstill because of the same thing.

[Shahno]

Yes, they didn’t decide anything ... So far, the mass-size equipment for the yard does not correspond to the level of protection for drugs, at the same time as the effectiveness of hitting targets. Well, it does not crawl in LA and in the Kyrgyz Republic so far. There are no technical solutions ... And no propaganda and political statements can solve this.

[Yura Yakovlev]

Something fundamentally new, or have overcome some kind of technological impasse. I think that it’s better for us not to know this for ten years. Let those to whom this gift will fly now think about it.

[Hierarch]

If the fuel rods are tight and keep it for a long time, then there will be no pollution. Only induced radiation. And the air is not very activated. So they decided ...

[Hierarch]

For the size of the reactor, it can be not only uranium but also plutonium ...

[Incvizitor]

and where the rocket flies will be dead land.

Let us go over Europe right away

[lopvlad]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

You know how many imported technologies in the same West or Superjet

Do you know how many Chinese parts in the iPhone? .

[savage]

This can be safely called HPP. They were indignant for so many years about the deployment of missile defense in Europe, so that the Americans believed in the correctness of the chosen strategy and invested as much as possible in this missile defense system, and the main thing is that the United States "put the wrong horse" in the development of new weapons systems. They thought that if they did not succeed in creating hypersonic and laser weapons, then no one will be able to and now to create something similar it takes about 10 years and huge funds.

[Tests]

In the USSR officially from their jeans were only from Tver from Orbit fabric, there were jeans from the CMEA countries - Rila and Odra. Remember those times? The USSR could not do anything ... Only at that time in the sea (the Navy was an outcast for the USSR, a land country) did Komsomolets go. No one has broken the records of this submarine, although the 21st century is neither in terms of working depth nor in the depth of launch of torpedoes, and there weren’t and couldn’t be Granit missiles on Soviet submarines! The tips of the boat were made of riveted iron from locomotive cast iron. After all, the USSR could only do cartoons .... Therefore, the suggestions of some visitors to the site to postpone the date of the message of the President of the Russian Federation to the Federal Assembly are simply wonderful things. Dear, with such proposals that you should go to the site of the Military Review website, let's go directly to the site of the Presidential Administration, it’s somehow more reliable, it may take into account your valuable suggestions ...

[Bosch]

No one is interested in the proposals on that site, but there is still some discussion going on.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

Just count the overloads

already calculated. The calculation launched on the Soviet missile defense "Gazelle" which at a similar speed of 5,5-5,8 km / s intensively maneuvering intercepts ICBMs.
So to create missiles flying at such speeds, albeit at shorter distances, they were successfully created under the USSR.

[Ace Tambourine]

20M Karl ... 20!
You are invited to calculate the overload for the contingent, mythical, maneuvering Vanguard flying at 20M.

[lopvlad]

1 max in the upper atmosphere = 1062 km / h
20 max = 21240 km / h
1 hour = 60 minutes
21240 km / h divided by 60 = 354 km / min
1 minute = 60 seconds
354 km / m divided by 60 = 5.9km / second

But the characteristics of the Russian missile (ABM) A-135 (adopted for service in 1995)

53T6 (PRS-1), according to the codification of NATO SH-08 / ABM-3A GAZELLE, (Rus. Gazelle) - a short-range interceptor missile.
Rocket speed: 5,2-5,5 km / s
Flight time: no more than 12 seconds.
Maximum overloads:
longitudinal - 210 g;
transverse - 90 g.

The problem was not the achievement of hypersound, but the duration of the flight in hypersound (the shell of the warhead during a long flight in hypersound was heated to fantastic temperatures that the existing materials could not withstand and the plasma cloud around literally burned all the control antennas making the flight uncontrollable).

Not only are you not in the material, but you are also openly delirious.

[Ace Tambourine]

Again...
The conversation is not about missile defense, but about the goal itself.
Even if we go according to the simplified version, 1km.s = 3M, 20M = almost 7km.s
Will this coulibek make a dodge maneuver?
Moreover, the Guarantor ambitiously stated that it can hobble unlimited time ..
And you once ...! - and killed his dream with some 12 seconds ....

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

0
Ace Tambourine Today, 19:43 ↑
Again.

re-read the overloads that the Russian missile missile defense missile system, capable of withstanding, of the 90s, designed to intercept the ICBM warheads intensively maneuvering at the end of the flight, is capable of withstanding.
Well, I deliberately highlighted it in bold.
That is, the only problem that the designers decided was the invention of new materials for the shell of the combat unit’s casing capable of withstanding extreme heating temperatures and placing antennas in it for control.
In fact, there is nothing fantastic in the complex if you have previously produced rockets with similar characteristics but flying a short period of time.

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

20M = almost 7km.s

incorrect since at a height of more than 11 kilometers 1max is no longer equal to 1224 km / h but only 1062 km / h

[Ace Tambourine]

Opposing ...
Well, from your own words ...
12 sec and then the problems ...
And here, in the sense of the words of the Guarantor, unlimited time at 20M ..
Yes, a meteorite can’t stand it for more than a minute ...
Well, no matter how blasphemous it may sound, the death of the last Shuttle to you as an example ...
Moreover, the speed there was already less than 20 ..

[bk316]

12 sec and then the problems ...

oops about overload already silently switched to heating better immediately with mantras
It’s not possible. If you did the USA, then it’s possible.

[Operator]

Quote: lopvlad

Not only are you not in the material, but you’re also talking frankly

Pity d.Bila, this is a clinical case

[3vs]

Some kind of childish delight on the site.
Another hatred.
It would be nice to remember what it turned into ...

[Viktor.12.71]

I don’t understand one thing. How did the missile system begin to be mass-produced without testing? Our very same X-37 in space was spotted right away, and if we had tested the Vanguard at least once we would have spotted it and shown it to the whole world as it was with the X-37. Noise, God forbid!

[Ace Tambourine]

then ...
Firstly, it was tested at night, and secondly underground, and thirdly on the night of Friday to Saturday ... Therefore, such stunning results.
In !!

[Tusv]

Quote: Viktor.12.71

and if we had ever tested the Vanguard, we would have spotted it and shown it to the whole world as it was with the X-37. Noise, God forbid!

I repeat. For four years now, Americans have been making noise about their backwardness. You just didn't hear

[Viktor.12.71]

Well, yes, behind. Since the 2000s they have been conducting supersonic tests, while laying all this out on the network. There is no point in arguing, economically strong will always have a huge advantage in technology.

[Operator]

Quote: Viktor.12.71

They are testing the supersonic from the 2000

You have a mess in your head - the United States was buried with a hypersonic ramjet engine, and the Vanguard lacks an engine as a class, the Iskander missile engine is used as part of the Dagger complex, a supersonic ramjet engine is used in the intercontinental cruise missile.

As you can see, the Americans drove themselves into a corner.

[Mestny]

Citizens rejoice in the successes of their country. As normal citizens should do.
But what, in fact, should whine and doubt, pulling an owl of anti-arguments on the globe of information?

[NKVD]

It seems that this is due to testing a hypersonic missile.

[Ace Tambourine]

only date 01.07.2018 somehow smiles ...
Are you a guest from the Future?

[Setrac]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

only date 01.07.2018 somehow smiles ...
Are you a guest from the Future?

In some foreign devices, the first month is indicated, nothing unusual.

[Old26]

Quote: Muvka

How many unsuccessful launches of the BR last year were? Or the year before last? Do you understand what kind of crap are you talking about?

He is unlikely to answer. In the past - not a single unsuccessful launch of ballistic missiles (not space). In 2016 - 2 accidents, one in 2013, one in 2009.

Quote: Fedorov

It has changed that the missile defense system is mattress, a bunch of roach and years of development can be lowered into the toilet.

And can you find out on which rocket the Vanguard launched in the series is going to put?

Quote: Ivan.A

Good news. A good argument for pressure on the Anglo-Saxons. Not negotiations, but pressure. It is time for us to tell them how to live on Mother Earth.

But this apparatus for them is not pressure, but so far only a cartoon during treatment. They are well aware that, in principle, we have nothing to let this device into. What kind of pressure is this that "does not press" ???

Quote: Rushnairfors

Not on the DB, of course, as they said, and not everything is so smooth there, BUT IT IS !!!!! In iron !!!! And flies !!!!!! And I personally am very happy about this

What is being tested is certain. But not on pilot combat duty, as was announced ...

[serverny]

> Russian "Daggers"

Rewriting history in full swing - the Soviet X-32 at any cost should be set as "completely Russian development to which the damned scoop has nothing to do."

[Vadim237]

X 32 - this missile needs to be discarded, in view of the enormous size, weight and minimum number of media installed on the carrier.

[shans2]

this is not the X-32, who has a brain that understands that development of the X-22, the same speeds, less than 5 MAX ...
X-32 carrier - Tu22M3, if you want to talk about development, then this is the basis of the Rainbow project - the X-90 hypersonic missile

[faterdom]

We will be banned. Obliged to name not the "Ministry of Defense", but a team of servicemen from Russia.

[Yves762]

Phew ...
The Soviet Union did not collapse due to the lack of missiles ...

[shans2]

It is impossible to save from collapse if the traitors Gorbachev and Yeltsin are at the helm ... now the power is in the hands of the Chekists, you will not break off .... the power has never been in the hands of the Chekists, the KGB, the FSB, whatever you call ... At the helm after Stalin stood mad embroidered Khrushchev, insane selyuki, etc. .....

[Yves762]

Quote: shans2

now the power is in the hands of the Chekists, you will not break off .... never before has the power been in the hands of the Chekists, the KGB, the FSB, whatever you call ...

- Ahhhh !! ?? And Andropov Yu.V.?.

Quote: shans2

At the helm after Stalin were crazy embroidered Khrushchevs, senile seluki, etc. .....

- And yet, even with them, they flew into space, and a vigorous shield and ppm. ... that so far, having finalized the file, hawking the public for "their"Epic fault gives the current government ...

PS "When you say, Ivan Vasilyevich, the impression is that you are raving."

[armourer]

Get well soon, watched the performance. I was absolutely delighted, well done !!!

[digitalcn75]

.idioty blame on the quality of the graphics .. Yes, dbl, bld. As Dorenko said there, the Russians will wipe their finger, but they will not save on weapons. I wonder what made the GDP arrange this movie show. It’s a pity they won’t tell us, but, apparently, some sort of shucher was planned in our direction, most likely, in Ukraine.

[flicker]

That is why when I read that all these cartoons are nothing more, that they are fairy tales, then all this pleases. This reaction is encouraging, because, first of all, it speaks of the gigantic breakthrough that Russia has made in the field of armaments. Nobody write, like, “let’s think it over,” “yes everyone has it,” yes there is more abruptly, etc. etc. No, they write that this cannot be, that they are cartoons and fairy tales - underlining this again how much success is INCREDIBLE that it is huge (beyond understanding) success Russian science, Russian scientists and designers.
Cartoons and fairy tales are the best applause to our scientists and designers. Really, just fantastic.

[Morrow]

Hypersonic heads have China - WU-17! U.S.AHW

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ace of Diamonds

12 sec and then the problems ...

it was 23 years ago. What do you think can solve the problem after 23 years?
There are no miracles, but simply your conviction, “No, it cannot be, after all, everything is modern only with the Americans.”
This belief that the West has the best and most breakthrough comes from the naive to senility. The West in some technologies broke away from us only because the USSR collapsed in 1990 and we stupidly survived for more than 15 years.
The West still has no missiles similar in speed and overload data like our Gazelle developed in the late 80s.
So now the US military is just hysterical.

RUSSIA THE GREAT COUNTRY WHICH IS IN A CONDITION TO COOPERATE ANY EXCLUSIVE NATION.

[Mentor]

The wars and technologies of the 20th century are reset, now we are waiting for the 21st century show, take places in the stalls, and who is in the "trenches." Is it only interesting that humanity has a chance of survival?

[Misha Honest]

Mestny,

Quote: Mestny

This is what is characteristic of you, the weeping-bastards about Russia - your mantras are recognizable from the first sentence.
Well enough, really.
Well, we do not eat the last hedgehogs. Yes, there are problems, and in some places rather big ones. But they are not nearly so large that they would take to the streets and break it all for the sake of some kind of “new leader”.
The situation in the country is such that a "new leader" is not yet needed. And the old is nothing yet.

Well, if for you the upcoming 3rd World War is a trivial situation, then yes, we do not need anyone new ...))

[Misha Honest]

Monos,

Quote: Monos

You are apparently too young. How old are you, 16-17? But we saw both Russia and the Union under different leaders. We have something to compare. Pick up snot and do not fool adult uncles head.

Over thirty already. Please, do not advertise your senility here. It's not funny. This is the future of the whole country.

[standan]

Quote: Thracian warrior

a hyper-super-duper omnipotent rocket flies near the moon in a couple of seconds and then enters the capitol. :)))

To the White House

[standan]

Quote: karish

Quote: Thrall

An update for the training manual has been released:
1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

different countries - different manuals
1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
2. This will never happen in the USA

Have something to argue?

[karish]

Quote: standan

Quote: karish

Quote: Thrall

An update for the training manual has been released:
1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

different countries - different manuals
1. All this new Russian weapon has already been created
2. This will never happen in the USA

Have something to argue?

about what ?

[standan]

As for the creation of a new weapon and anyone else has it

[Operator]

Quote: Old26

can you find out what rocket the Vanguard launched in the series is going to put on?

According to the GDP - at Sarmat, which they are going to put on combat duty this year (if I'm not mistaken).

[feldscher]

Quote: Ace Tambourine

Opposing ...
Well, from your own words ...
12 sec and then the problems ...
And here, in the sense of the words of the Guarantor, unlimited time at 20M ..
Yes, a meteorite can’t stand it for more than a minute ...
Well, no matter how blasphemous it may sound, the death of the last Shuttle to you as an example ...
Moreover, the speed there was already less than 20 ..

What a stupid trolling ...
How about a wall of peas ...
Vlad, my respect

[gerkost2012]

My darling, if you think in terms of rockets like Saturn - Proton, then nothing can fly otherwise. However, Putin has already mentioned weapons based on new physical principles several times and has been doing this for a very long time, as if expressing the hope that he will be understood by stupid "partners". Apparently, Russian physicists and others caught plasma and something else by the tail. And this is high energy physics. After all, it is not necessary to run along with everyone else, you can go across.

[alexey1213]

What a hysteria the USA has. These are cries of joy. A new threat, money is needed, and money is a good life, and new jobs are there. After all, an answer must be given to the threat. I would have praised our president in their place, too, as they do and scolded it, otherwise it is not patriotic. I hope that we still have these weapons. In the West, they know very well that our country rarely attacks first. Hysteria is ostentatious. In my non-professional opinion, we need weapons that will help withstand the first strongest blow. To answer later.

[voyaka uh]

This (and other) weapon will be much talked about before the election.
Then they will abruptly forget about him before the World Cup.
And then it turns out that some of the projects are not funded, some - "the deadlines are moved to the right,"
and part is a tactical bluff to intimidate the enemy.

[askme]

It's silly to count on it. All these projects, except for absolutely unexpected for all KR with a nuclear engine - everything has been heard for a long time. Even the Dagger. This is nothing but a variant of the X-32. There is nothing special in this system in principle. Gaining speed of about 4 km / s, having before it acceleration from the first stage of the MiG-31, with its 1 km / s - there is nothing special about this. Given the progress in solid fuels for solid propellant rocket engines, in carbon plastics, in compact SU and GOS. So everything is absolutely real. And from the European part of Russia, almost all of Europe is now under fire, most of the Middle East, Norway with fjords and coasts, etc. ... This is a new reality that everyone will have to get used to. 5-15 minutes - and there are no strategic bases , airfield, aircraft carriers, destroyers, missile defense systems ... This is the end of all aggressive plans. This is NATO’s losery for years, it’s the losery of all who are trying to yelp at Russia in the Middle East ... For missile defense systems have been built for a long time, and such generally are beyond the Western capabilities of the present ...

[voyaka uh]

Your post finally convinced me that this is a bluff. What you have listed requires numerous tests. Tests are well detected by satellites. But no tests were conducted. One laboratory prototype flies suspended under an airplane. That the Dagger, that Zircon, that the Vanguard - developments at the level of laboratory prototypes. Only Sarmat is something real. But several of them will do them to scare NATO and stop.

[askme]

You have logic problems in your brain. For the video clearly shows that the rocket not only flies under the plane, but also on its own) And if your torch companions did not see it (and they can only see it, despite the fact that the torch was filmed, its fact is obvious), then bullshit these are your companions and they cannot see anything in principle. It’s even fun to watch your tribe wrinkle)) And rightly so, there is something)

You have the first stage of the process: denial)) Then comes the anger, and then the acceptance of the inevitable. You have a fun life ahead, many events))

[Operator]

Quote: voyaka uh

tactical bluff to intimidate the enemy

Excellent result - 30 seconds of airtime and the enemy has full pants over the next 25 years

[Strips]

Quote: Operator

Excellent result - 30 seconds of airtime and the enemy has full pants over the next 25 years

Rather, another noodle before the election. All this was said exactly before the election to the population.
Whether it’s true or not, it’s not important anymore, the main thing for the population is to sell a strong leader who can promise, if anything, to destroy the enemy, to show a rocket in a wretched schedule.
This is better than discussing the impoverishment of the population, the miserable salaries of teachers and doctors, miserable pensions, about the lack of kindergartens and schools, about wild corruption, terrible medicine, that having such cool rockets, the Sberbank is afraid to open in Crimea due to sanctions.

[Vadim237]

Devastation - only in the heads and no more.

[Setrac]

Quote: Tiras

Sberbank is afraid to open in Crimea due to sanctions

Sberbank has not belonged to Russia for a long time, for example, VTB operates in Crimea.

Quote: Tiras

about the lack of kindergartens and schools, about wild corruption, terrible medicine

And where is Libya now, in which all of the above was perfect?

[Strips]

Quote: Setrac

Sberbank has not belonged to Russia for a long time,

And to whom?

[Operator]

No need to get into a conversation with an Israeli with his flood - he expressed an opinion about tactical bluffing, I recognized the super-efficiency of this bluffing (at least).

[muhomor]

All this is good! GDP during and sharply announced new types of weapons. But the question. And how much "novia" is ready for use. And when will the amount needed for the rattle?

[voyaka uh]

"Avangard" was put into service without a series of tests?
Tests of aircraft and spacecraft are inevitably photographed by satellites -
spies of a potential enemy.

[askme]

Who told you such nonsense? There were at least four tests, one (the first) was unsuccessful. The Rubezh-Avangard system has been tested for a long time and has long been widely known. Launches have been taking place since 2011. Mainly along internal routes from Kapyar to Sary-Shagan. And the stated speed of the Avangard - Mach 20 - is exactly in the region of 6500 m/sec - the speed required for a warhead to fly to a distance of 6000 km (maximum range for Rubezh)... Everything is correct according to the numbers...

[gerkost2012]

Everything is clear about the military component of Russia; the president clearly explained and showed it. But the question arises: is the Russian economy as weak as liberals and other riffraff are talking about? Well, by definition, a country with a weak economy, that is, a “gas station,” cannot create super-innovative weapons systems and put them into mass production. Oh, we are weaker than orange Spain and Portugal, oh, we are weaker than Poland, etc., shout the liberals. We need to change everything and reduce spending on the army, shout Kudrin and similar “experts,” i.e., agents of US influence. So maybe it's time to cleanse Russia of this infection?

[askme]

Many people here said that it was too early to celebrate. This is true. Russia has beaten the Yankees in the nuclear missile sense. This is true.

But there are completely different areas of war, and here we have not so obvious successes: unmanned aircraft and unmanned underwater and surface systems, genetic weapons, psychological weapons. Here Russia has no advantages, and confrontation in these areas can threaten no less total destruction than nuclear missile destruction. There, electronics and robotics and much, much more play a role, where we have historical diseases...

The force that is playing against Russia now is superior in terms of self-awareness; from a psychological point of view, it is more self-aware, so to speak. From a psychological point of view, Russia is now in an extremely vulnerable position. Not hopeless, but really vulnerable. Many elements of reality still have to be realized by many people before it would be possible to work on equal terms with this enemy. And hatred cannot defeat him from a psychological point of view. This is what this terrible enemy is...

The overwhelming majority of people in our country are not even able to realize where the enemy has dropped psychological bombs. Most people just fall for them. So far there are more wounded and killed precisely from a psychological point of view...

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well, it would be necessary to show it in action... It’s a pleasure to invite sworn friends to visit (with the words “let’s go, let’s go, what will I show you - you’ll be amazed!!!”), demonstrate the launch, its results, and then declare that if something happens, a certain number of such gifts will be sent at the required speed to the given coordinates. Many people's brains will brighten.

[Penzyac]

Quote: Thrall

An update for the training manual has been released:
1. All this new Russian weapon cannot be created.
2. In fact, all this has long been in the United States.

1. Russians lie about everything - an American axiom.
2. Americans are not obliged to prove anything to anyone, because they “are the exclusive hegemons” and everyone else is obliged to take their word for it, and also because there are things that are secret even for the Americans themselves!...

[Old26]

Quote: Operator

Quote: Old26

can you find out what rocket the Vanguard launched in the series is going to put on?

According to the GDP - at Sarmat, which they are going to put on combat duty this year (if I'm not mistaken).

Andrey! I consider you one of the adequate people on the resource, although you and I often disagree a lot. I understand everything, euphoria is such a thing that is difficult to overcome, but nevertheless.
Serial production of the Avangard complex has been announced. So let's look at this message too.
You say that the complex will be based, according to the President, on Sarmat. It may very well be, although I, like Shpak from “Ivan Vasilyevich,” am tormented by vague doubts. The configuration of the Sarmat's head part is very, very similar to the proprietary fairings of the State Research Center named after. Makeeva. A blunt cone with a large opening. And after this the question arises. if my “vague doubt” corresponds to the truth and the breeding stage on “Sarmat” is the signature stage of the Makeevites, then this means only one thing. They have a pull-out stage, which means that the direction of the missile warheads is “down.” On a toroidal platform. How, according to rumors, will it be possible to cram more warheads there (and the President, the media, and the OBS agency spoke about this - they generally name the number from 10 in the standard version of warheads, up to 15 lungs or up to 24 “gliders” - I don’t know. (Moreover, for testing, a rocket extended by almost 7 meters was used, that is, the length of the tested glider was about 7 meters. I don’t know where to fit it onto the Sarmat. Moreover, that the dimensions of the missile are significantly smaller than those of the same "Voevoda", and with such a design of the breeding stage, when the warheads are "recessed" into the tanks of the second stage, it is in principle impossible to place another platform. On the "Voevoda" the second tier led to the fact that the stage breeding, with a diameter, by the way, of 3 meters, and not about 2,5, as on the Sarmat, led to an increase in the breeding stage to almost a three-meter height.

But even this is not the most important thing now. Serial production of a product ("Avangard") when there is no rocket yet, it is unknown how and where and in what order the electrical, pneumatic and hydraulic connectors are located on the launch platform - this borders on technical adventurism. And it looks like the compilers of the report pretty much screwed up the president in many respects.
As for the Sarmat tests. Planned for the first half of this year TWO CHALLENGE TESTS. Even if we assume that there will be no rough spots and in the second half of the year they will spend FOUR (exorbitant, but so be it) flight tests - no one will put a missile into service with 4 flight tests. And the rocket, firstly, is completely new. and not created on the basis of the stages of some other rockets, secondly, roughness will still appear, since the GRC NEVER DONE rockets with such a launch mass. And it will amount to approximately 150-160 tons. They do not have such experience and God grant that the tests take place without accidents.
So if they put it into service by mid-2019, it will be very good. But riveting Avangards for future use is not the best option, especially since the plant will only produce them; no other production is expected
The point is to launch mass production of the same "Avant-garde" when there is no flying rocket yet, not a mass-dimensional mock-up, as on throwable ones, but a full-fledged rocket

[askme]

Avangard has been tested with Rubezh for a long time, since 2011. It’s not clear what “Sarmat” has to do with it. There's a trick to throw across the South Pole. And Rubezh-Vanguard is the shooting of missile defense fortified areas, as is obvious from the distance...

[flicker]

Until now, in many comments, in one form or another, the idea is expressed that “no, it can’t be, because it can’t be.”
Yes, but the reality is that you have to come to terms with it, it exists! Now we have to live with this. You can, of course, continue to resist, but ... but this is dangerous for the psyche.

[askme]

Exactly. Moreover, everything except the missile launcher with a nuclear engine has been around for a long time and there is nothing fundamentally impossible in those systems, especially in the Kinzhal. Adding another 1 km/sec to 3 km/sec in one step is nothing impossible. Moreover, on new fuels for solid propellant rocket engines, on new structural plastics, on a new element base in electronics...

[Serge Gorely]

If only another marked one doesn’t show up and cut him into needles like a “pioneer”

[Edvid]

Still, some things shouldn’t have been revealed...
Stormy enthusiasm from some Russian politicians: "..now they will have to negotiate!..."
Negotiations about what?... About another reduction in what was created with such difficulty by the best minds of the Russian people and at their expense?... A similar moronic method has been used more than once by mediocre politicians in our fatherland...
The destruction of entire classes of weapons and the number of their units for the sake of so-called “security parity” with the main enemy only works to its advantage. Russia's principled approach to such negotiations should be different.
Namely, the withdrawal and liquidation of all American bases no less than two thousand kilometers from the borders of Russia. And we must stand unwaveringly on this demand. The entire perimeter of Russia is literally studded with American bases, and there is not a single Russian base near the United States...

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: gerkost2012

shout Kudrin and similar “experts”, i.e. agents of US influence. So maybe it's time to cleanse Russia of this infection?

It is very difficult to root out such things:
Oligarchs from the 90s are dividing Russia again
Battle for Norilsk Nickel: oligarchs from the 90s have forgotten how they got the asset?
They bought Norilsk Nickel in the 90s at a loans-for-shares auction for $175, and now its cost is $000, which they cannot divide.

[Zomanus]

What do we have with Zircon? Or did Avangard replace him?
Damn, now I wish I could remember what weapon is called...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Zomanus

What do we have with Zircon? Or did Avangard replace him?
Damn, now I wish I could remember what weapon is called...

You are not the only one who is confused..hehe..There are many different developments! Our “Kulibins” had a blast, since the 90s they have been waiting, storing their drawings in the tables of the “Khrushchev” and believing in Russia in its revival..Thank you guys for not selling out and believing..

[Old26]

Quote: askme

Avangard has been tested with Rubezh for a long time, since 2011. It’s not clear what “Sarmat” has to do with it. There's a trick to throw across the South Pole. And Rubezh-Vanguard is the shooting of missile defense fortified areas, as is obvious from the distance...

"Avangard" and "Rubezh" are two different complexes. Avangard was tested on the 15Yu71 experimental launch vehicle, created on the basis of the modernized 15A35 rocket (aka 15A35-71, aka 15A71). At the same time, the standard rocket was lengthened by 7 meters. So there is a very high probability that product 4202, which everyone now calls “Vanguard”, has a length of 7 meters
"Rubezh" is a missile that most likely has a different combat equipment from others, where each warhead has its own engine, and is not in the breeding stage, sometimes colloquially called a "bus". testing a 7 meter product by hoisting it on a 12 meter rocket is, sorry, too much...

[askme]

Well, these are your guesses, fortune tellers. The version that is closer to me is that Rubezh, Avangard is a launch vehicle and a warhead for it, and “weaving” - yes, it is related to the Yu-71. And in most sources it’s the same.

[Vadim237]

It is no more than 3 meters long - just a glide warhead, with miniature orientation engines, an active radar + Glonass homing head.

[mgero]

Ja odno nepojmu pochemu Russkie xotjat chtobi zapod s nimi dogovarivalsya? Esli mojete togda delajte chto mojete, a che kajdi raz davajte dogavarivatca ili jit drujno?? Mir tolko priznayut silu a ne kino. Pokajite che vi ne tolko imeete No i na golovu teraristov bambite, a kto teroristi pust sam Putin reshit. zapod serovno nepojmet poka nashi soldati pol Berlina neiznosilovali.

[askme]

What you do not understand? That agreeing on the conditions, the rules of peaceful coexistence, the rules of the geopolitical game is more profitable than fighting with a strategic nuclear arsenal, organizing a strategic arms race with the risk of unintentional escalation? Well, actually, all sane people understand this more or less. Or do you want Putin to be the first to fuck the Yankees in Syria without any rules, since they deliberately hang out among terrorists? So you shouldn’t have identified Putin as the stupid initiator of Armageddon. The initiators are those who got into Syria, where Russia has had a military base since 1971, i.e. our long-time and FAITHFUL ally. And if the Yankees fuck us, they will get everything they have been interrogating since 1991...

[zivXP]

Put your farts away, preferably overseas, and there will be no need to negotiate. Everything will work itself out.

[Setrac]

Quote: mgero

Ja odno nepojmu pochemu Russkie xotjat chtobi zapod s nimi dogovarivalsya?

Because if we don’t agree, then sooner or later we will come to the need to destroy NATO and US bases on our borders. The choice is simple, either NATO and the USA remove their military bases from our borders, or the Third World War.

[askme]

No need to clown around. Before the US withdrawal from the missile defense system, Russia did not have such warheads. They are only now starting to appear. Hence the many years of warnings to Russia by the United States.

[askme]

What does "on the sly" mean? Putin said in 2004 that Russia will decide what warheads it is developing (maneuver in altitude and course). The fact that they didn’t believe it is the problem of Westerners. Everything according to Zadornov. And precisely after the US withdrawal from the ABM Treaty. This is Putin’s statement several times later. years after the US withdrawal from the missile defense system.

And yes, you shouldn’t pass off your own clownery as the real logic, the reality in which Russia worked. There is only one fool here, and it is not Russia, but you))

[Aronych]

The main thing is not so much the hardware, but - “They didn’t want to listen to us then? Listen now" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1noby9YOq8

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Putin himself said: “You didn’t want to listen to us then? Listen now"

VVP knows how to speak briefly and to the point! How many times have we offered the United States to sit down at the negotiating table? They even disarmed unilaterally .. The Russians were considered suckers, well, now we’ll see, gentlemen!
You have to pay for EVERYTHING!

[Strips]

Quote: MIKHAN

You have to pay for EVERYTHING!

Yes, that’s for sure, if earlier there were those in Europe who could still arise against the sanctions, then after Putin released to the whole world a picture of an attack on the United States and rattled sabers, now not only will new sanctions be added, but also those who were against the sanctions that were imposed on Russia will decrease sharply.
Putin, for the sake of the elections in Russia, to show himself as a tough guy who can show everyone, put the whole of Russia under sanctions, and now they will be tightened more severely.
What will Russia oppose to sanctions? Nothing.
Putin killed the last voices against sanctions, and the US military-industrial complex will now sign contracts worth billions against the backdrop of Putin’s speech.

And it is the Russian people who will pay for Putin’s speech.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Tiras

What will Russia oppose to sanctions? Nothing.
Putin killed the last voices against sanctions, and the US military-industrial complex will now sign contracts worth billions against the backdrop of Putin’s speech.
And it is the Russian people who will pay for Putin’s speech.

I remember this whining from the 90s....
Russia has had enough of “chewing snot”... It’s time to respond in full! Russia has already surrounded us along all borders...
And sanctions, for God’s sake!

[1536]

Here one two-citizen Russian-speaking person wrote in his blog (also, after all, the “selfish blogger” wants to go down in history) that “now he is afraid of Russia.”
And he does the right thing! Such people must finally develop fear, which will turn on their brains, atrophied by propaganda and US dollars.

[VladVlad]

Stupid experts convinced Putin that our missiles are the best in the world and will definitely reach the USA! Why are they deceiving Putin? He's so trusting. Trump called Marcon and Merkel and told them not to worry and ordered them to continue to put pressure on Russia. The United States has weapons that will intercept all Putin’s advertised missiles and even shoot them down over the territory of the Russian Federation!!! Yes, Russia has serious weapons, but they are not capable of passing the US missile defense and anti-submarine defense (ASD) systems. If the Kremlin doesn’t understand this, then it’s very bad. Until our military is able to shoot down American secret aerospace hypersonic aircraft such as the TR-3B and its numerous modifications, of which the United States has already produced a lot, all of Russia’s weapons are ineffective and useless. Our hypersonic missiles cannot even catch up with these devices. Acceleration at the start of the TR-3B is from 5 km per second, cruising from 20 km per second. Controls the force of inertia, controls the force of gravity, controls the flow. Often used as a reconnaissance aircraft, invisible to radar, operating through space. He descends vertically over an object, a city, adjusts the targets (drops bombs) and goes back into space, 5-10 thousand km. There are dozens of video evidence of their unpunished appearance over Russia. Why do our military mistake this device for a UFO? Unclear. Like ostriches, they hide their heads in the sand and don’t even want to notice the super technology of the USA! Trump laughs like a horse at our idiocy!

[feldscher]

Unlike the TR-3B, the Vanguard already exists.
Regarding the “stupid advisers,” I note that attempts to argue with “secret, and therefore unknown to our intelligence, prodigies” is an example of a great mind?

https://topwar.ru/115585-amerikanskoe-superoruzhi
e-tr-3b-astra-ne-dlya-slabyh-duhom.html

How does a horse neigh?
Seriously?
"So big, but you believe in fairy tales"

[shoemaker]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Misha Honest

If Putin would at least once show that his words are not just another idle talk

I believe that you, in confirmation of the presence of voiced weapons, were expecting a movie with a real blow to the Americans ???

Where are the weapons? Where are the documented facts of the effectiveness of the use of these weapons? How many units of this weapon are in the troops today? Mikhail gave you specific cases of how Russia was provoked to respond, but VVP lost his temper and expressed concern through Lavrov. Great, there are weapons. How many excellent T-34s were there and how did this affect the situation on June 22, 1941? Now there is a similar situation - Russia is two steps away from war. Many of the respected VO participants served, some fought. Don’t throw hats at the mattress covers, look at the situation realistically.

[voyaka uh]

Look at the quantities. Syrian campaign. Caliber - quite simple
subsonic missile launcher, analogue of the Tomahawk.
The first salvos against ISIS targets in Syria used up the ENTIRE stock
these Russian missiles. About a hundred.
Then the industry, working in three shifts, accumulated in 2 months
another hundred. And they fired a few more volleys.
And then they finally transferred to FABs. KR and KABs are over.
Now imagine how much more complicated super- and hypersonic missiles are
and more expensive than conventional subsonic ones. And how many of them will the state be able to order?
and make factories.
I'm not talking about accuracy. The calibers with their inertia and GLONASS missed by 10 m. And the seeker on hyper-weapons is still from the realm of science fiction.

[allegro]

when at least 100 of these systems are in service, then we will rejoice, but for now these are just words and nothing more, so it’s too early to beat the kettledrums

[The poor man]

These Americans and Europeans are strange people. Is it really difficult to understand that with such technology we will still need medium-range missiles for some reason? Why the hell produce a large range of different types of missiles when you can get by with a minimum number of, one might say, universal ones. With new missiles we will reach both near and distant neighbors with great efficiency and accuracy at any time that is inappropriate for them, even if we fire a year before the hit.

[Xscorpion]

Quote: voyaka uh

Your post finally convinced me that this is a bluff. What you have listed requires numerous tests. Tests are well detected by satellites. But no tests were conducted. One laboratory prototype flies suspended under an airplane. That the Dagger, that Zircon, that the Vanguard - developments at the level of laboratory prototypes. Only Sarmat is something real. But several of them will do them to scare NATO and stop.

I may surprise you, but the satellite flight schedule is known to the Ministry of Defense. Or do you think the tests are carried out according to the principle - so, an American satellite is approaching, now it will take photos, let’s start testing!

[high]

Any goals, no matter how grandiose and ambitious they may be, require equally enormous investments.
Where will Russia find these funds?
The US budget allocated for defense (about 700 billion dollars in 2018) exceeds many times the similar Russian budget (about 46 billion dollars in 2018).
Russia's economic power is limited, economic reforms that were once promised have not been implemented - so where will the funds come from for the technological breakthrough that usually accompanies the creation of new weapons systems?!
Economists are confident that all these tasks of the new weapons systems that the president spoke about do not stand up to the test of economic indicators - they are unrealistic, which will lead to even greater impoverishment of the population - today Russia, in terms of the standard of living of the population, ranks 90th in the world.

[askme]

You measure everything by yourself. Russians and Americans have different mentalities. In engineering and military affairs as well. It is known that Russian weapons were created at the highest scientific level, and at the level of execution technology they are crude and simple where this does not affect their functionality, where they can be crude and simple. In particular, the Yankees were amazed at how crudely made the MiG-25 was in technological terms (hence cheap and unpretentious), but its main characteristics - speed, altitude - were unique for a production vehicle. It's the same with all our other weapons. It is cheap, does not shine with subtlety of execution, but is extremely effective, extremely functional. Your weapon is an elitist product, often complicated where it is superfluous, where this complexity can be dispensed with. And Russian weapons are cheap, but extremely functional.

It's the same now. In addition, we must not forget that the Russian military budget is among world leaders in terms of volume. And it is used EXTREMELY effectively. So everything is absolutely real. The same will happen in the future)

Yes, and it is important to remember that in the Russian military-industrial complex there are areas that have not stopped developing since the times of the USSR; they survived in the 90s. The strategic nuclear complex and combat missile production are one example. In the 90s, they continued to develop and put on combat duty the Topol-M ICBM, work was carried out on the Bark, etc. So the industry lived and developed. Therefore, with the arrival of Putin, there was no need to recreate something from scratch in the industrial nuclear missile complex. They were simply allocated funds and directed resources towards them. And the industry flourished. The fruits of which we all now see. Once again: nothing has been destroyed in the core of the industry since Soviet times. The machine worked all the time...

[Strips]

Quote: askme

In addition, we must not forget that the Russian military budget is among world leaders in terms of volume. And it is used EXTREMELY effectively.

Yeah, very :

From year to year, more and more money is allocated from the defense budget, but this does not bring the expected success, the chief said military prosecutor of Russia Sergei Fridinsky "Rossiyskaya Gazeta". But, according to him, methods of deceiving the state are being improved: in the arsenal of scammers there are forgeries and fictitious reports for allegedly completed work, “kickbacks” in the implementation of government contracts.



“As a result, huge amounts of money are stolen, almost every fifth ruble,” Fridinsky said in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta, “and the troops continue to receive low-quality equipment and weapons.”

The chief military prosecutor cited the Kurgan Machine-Building Plant as an example. “Having received an advance of 350 million, instead of sending it, as expected, to contractors, they put the money into their own circulation for almost two months. Naturally, the work of the subcontractors was disrupted,” said Sergei Fridinsky

[askme]

If I were you, I would pay attention to the golden toilets of the Pentagon, the corruption of US generals in Iraq, the grandiose drinking on the F-35, and so on. And our prosecutors sometimes tend to exaggerate the problem. So speculating on a problem and analyzing a problem soberly are different.

[Setrac]

Quote: alta

Where will Russia find these funds?

Russia is in fourth place in the world in terms of industrial production, what funds do we lack?

[Strips]

Quote: Setrac

what funds do we lack?

Free. This year, for the first time, the pension fund deficit began to be covered from the National Welfare Fund. The reserve fund has already been finished off.

[Xscorpion]

Quote: RusskiyMos

I cannot understand the reasons for the Kremlin’s long-term dissatisfaction with the American missile defense system. After all, Russia has hypersonic weapons, which are not threatened at all by the American missile defense system. Their missile defense system will not be able to intercept Russian hypersonic missiles. And even put into series!

If we assume the number of interceptors is dozens per one of our missiles, then anything can be shot down, regardless of the speed and maneuverability of these missiles. Now the number of interceptors does not pose a threat to Russia’s strategic nuclear forces, but their number is increasing every year. Unlike interceptors, the number of nuclear missiles cannot be increased, the START treaties must be respected. And we cannot wait until the number of their interceptors becomes so large that they are guaranteed to intercept our missiles. So there are few options. Either withdraw from the START treaty and rivet a large number of nuclear missiles, or put into service missiles with improved characteristics, the interception of which will require many more interceptors. This is what we do with regularity.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: flicker

But one thing is for sure, the Turks WILL NOT fight for NATO

Of course not in the front row. But helping to finish off a weakened enemy or plunder is fine. )

[Setrac]

Quote: Misha Honest

Of course not in the front row. But helping to finish off a weakened enemy or plunder is fine. )

Did they “finish off and rob” a lot during World War II?

[Vlad5307]

Quote: dorz

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

Two hypersonic devices are being tested in the USA, one for silo ICBMs and the other for the Polaris marine. The series is still far away and it pleases.

In the 90s, the Amerzas took out a lot of things from Russia, which was in the R&D and in the hardware; they took out more than one carload of documentation, but not everything was of use to them!

[Dzafdet]

Quote: standan

In the USSR, even the "military" cartoons did not show

were shown, but not to everyone, and even documentaries labeled “chipboard”...

[feldscher]

Quote: alta

Any goals, no matter how grandiose and ambitious they may be, require equally enormous investments.
Where will Russia find these funds?
The US budget allocated for defense (about 700 billion dollars in 2018) exceeds many times the similar Russian budget (about 46 billion dollars in 2018).
Russia's economic power is limited, economic reforms that were once promised have not been implemented - so where will the funds come from for the technological breakthrough that usually accompanies the creation of new weapons systems?!
Economists are confident that all these tasks of the new weapons systems that the president spoke about do not stand up to the test of economic indicators - they are unrealistic, which will lead to even greater impoverishment of the population - today Russia, in terms of the standard of living of the population, ranks 90th in the world.

Aren't you ashamed to write an outright lie?
Over 15 years, the number of people living below the poverty line has decreased by 2 times (from 30 to 15%),
Our military developments are tens of times cheaper than foreign ones, and the ruble is calculated a little differently, so comparing the SGA and Russian military budgets can be a narrow-minded person or an outright troll.
Also, foreign corporations highly appreciate the Russian economy. Especially Nuclear energy, hundreds of factories are opening, Aircraft manufacturing (an indicator of the economy) is developing.
What can I talk about, everything is fine, but there really are a lot of enemies of the people, but festina lente

[high]

Rating of countries in the world by standard of living in 2017...... Russia - 90th place.
https://newsland.com/community/129/content/reitin
g-stran-mira-po-urovniu-zhizni-v-2017-godu / 578889
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[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: alta

Rating of countries in the world by standard of living in 2017...... Russia - 90th place.

So what, the main thing is stability.

[askme]

Put these ratings in the same place where the owners of the financial pyramids of the West are now, who burst into bubbles in 2008, while having the highest ratings. Russia has a much higher standard of real life. Having a GDP according to PPP that is fifth or sixth in the world. Moreover, since 1991, they have been subjected to targeted external persecution at all levels, and since 2014, especially sophisticated. So your links are bullshit. They don't give anything.

[Strips]

Quote: askme

much higher level of real life.

What?
Bad medicine? Poor wages on which you can’t eat well? High infant mortality, low life expectancy, especially for men, high murder rates?

[askme]

You clearly said all this about the USA, where the starving middle class is a real problem, 100 million people are really starving. Against their background, 15-20 million of Russia's poor are Rockefellers. Don’t tell me fairy tales about “bad medicine”, I encounter it in real life. Free medicine. Not bad. For the free services already received under the policy in the states, I would have been skinned three times over. In Russia, you can even get free dental care in some places, depending on the municipalities. So shove your rottenness up your ass. Go to the USA and taste all the delights of life, including the highest percentage of murders and so on, which you yap about. Free.

[Scalpel]

100 million starving? Now I’ll write to my colleagues in Palo Alto to see if it’s true. Medicine there is indeed not cheap, but they themselves regularly block laws to expand the list of insurance services. They also do not have compulsory insurance, although in serious companies the insurance is paid for by the employer and regular inspections are carried out.

[askme]

Yes, they are starving, half the country, roughly speaking, is eating on food stamps, but this is considered a very shameful thing, so no one will admit it to you. All the money goes to super-expensive real estate rent, and incredibly expensive medical insurance, because if you don’t have it, you can easily die from nonsense (there’s no money for medical care), everyone is in wild debt and completely mired in it. The average debt is about $40000 per person. 10-20% of the population eat fat. The same number are openly homeless. The rest feign prosperity while chronically malnourished. And another feature: they are forbidden to feed themselves by growing vegetables in the garden... This is the reality of American bestiality. In which no one among the local aborigines admits.

But all are patriots. With washed mosk...

[high]

RANKING OF WORLD COUNTRIES BY LIFE EXPECTANCE LEVEL....
Trinidad and Tobago - 114th place
S. Korea - 115th place
Russia - 116 place
Belize - 117th place
http://gtmarket.ru/ratings/life-expectancy-index/
life-expectancy-index-info

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: alta

Russia - 116 place

It’s warm here, but we don’t need to suffer for so long.

[Misha Honest]

Black_Vatnik,

Quote: Black_Jacket

So for which banana do you tie the situation with SU-24 to our graters with the Americans? To the heap, if only it were?
Do not tell me about the nature of the Turks. I studied with the Turks under the same roof for 2 years.
I don’t want to belittle your mental abilities, but, I think, even if you allow the situation with a “leg under the ribs”, I dare to assume that the GDP team drove this situation 150 times in ten different scenarios.
It would be possible to discuss about the PMC "Wagner" and about Ukraine ... but only on SU-24 everything became clear)

Because in the situation with the downed Su-24, it clearly smacks of the Washington Gestapo. That's why I'm dragging it in. It is doubtful that the Turks themselves have the courage and brains to take such actions.

Well, they drove away the situation, but that’s no use.

I am not forcing YOU into a discussion if you don’t want to. I was just expressing my opinion.

[gridasov]

Already in the name itself, that this planning complex contains the essence of the technology used during the flight of both Shuttles and Buranov. Therefore, we can only talk about a hypersonic fall of an aircraft and perhaps about a technology that does not allow the device to collapse in dense ionized layers of the atmosphere. Therefore, this is completely unrelated to technologies for achieving hypersonic flight speeds in the atmospheric conditions of the planet. All this means that Russia is not a country of sole ownership of technologies that give advantages over other countries. And this is unfortunately.

[askme]

Rare nonsense. You have to try to write so much nonsense in one comment.

[gridasov]

I used to get upset by such comments, but now I tell myself that it’s very easy to deceive such suckers on any topic. They are not believers. These are those who were told that there was no sex in the USSR and they could not believe it

[askme]

You are the only sucker here, because you are using non-existent terminology and don’t know what you are writing about. That's just the point.

[gridasov]

That is, if the crowd calls white black, and I suddenly describe it as a process of spectral reflection, then I will become abnormal. Excuse me! A developed person does not identify everything that happens around him with his personal perception. Therefore, at a minimum, a developed person already recognizes everything that is in the world - already exists and one must agree with this, and this means developing one’s inner potential to perceive and justify what is sometimes not consistent with reason

[askme]

Thank you for the detailed illustration-substantiation of what I wrote above. Although your previous message was enough.

[gridasov]

It’s strange that some concepts expressed not specifically to the people with whom you communicate, they perceive it as personal. I don’t know you and therefore I cannot define personal parameters in one concept. so don't be offended in vain. But let me use terms that are convenient for me.

[askme]

Another example of professional trollism. Because an attempt has been made to translate into a personal channel something that initially has a strictly semantic meaning on the topic: your delusional formulations and your lack of understanding of what you are writing about, but you become personal from half a turn solely on your own initiative. Thanks again for illustrating what you do on the forum: trollism.

[gridasov]

I don’t go into a discussion of personalities and I myself resist this - this is the case. And two is that we are the ones who offer completely new approaches to achieving hyperspeeds. Moreover, we are positioning a completely new method of mathematical analysis of high-potential physical processes. Another thing is that there are always people like you. who do not distinguish “wheat from chaff” and are asked to post information. Such people are simply provocateurs and are easy to distinguish. At the same time, you are also amateurs because you do not know how to search for information and how to establish cooperation with potentially interesting developers. Pray to God that people like me do not fall into the hands of your enemies.

[askme]

Playing like a fool is not productive. Stop it.

[gridasov]

I'm shocked ! You yourself are making a fool out of me and at the same time forgive me if I am not one. What are you talking about? About productive, so let's do it. Do you understand that complex, high-potential physical processes cannot be subjected to mathematical analysis based on computational methods because you will never have time to analyze them? Therefore, new algorithmic methods of analysis are needed, which essentially should be built on the properties of a number that are not expressed by their variable function , but constant. Therefore, it is possible to build a model of the entire physical process in its complex of transformations, rather than looking for particular solutions. There is not enough computer power to do this. Therefore, you cannot analyze the operation of elementary propeller blades and do not understand why such devices have three stages of pressure drop. And what can we talk about further with you or with others. You still need to be taught and taught to think in new categories. Our development alone is capable of loading most of the research institutes with new research with a very high degree of actual reproduction of new products. Do you generally understand what signs of fundamentality are in inventions or discoveries? And in general, say something smart.

[feldscher]

Quote: alta

RANKING OF WORLD COUNTRIES BY LIFE EXPECTANCE LEVEL....
Trinidad and Tobago - 114th place
S. Korea - 115th place
Russia - 116 place
Belize - 117th place
http://gtmarket.ru/ratings/life-expectancy-index/
life-expectancy-index-info

Since 2000, life expectancy has increased by 10 years.
Learn to use statistics correctly.
I am not indicating a comparison with 90..
Although, it is clear that you are a provocateur.
But it's small enough that it's not scary

[askme]

The whole site here is half made up of such trolls. I would check the owners of the forum for conscious activity in this regard....

[Old26]

Quote: askme

Well, these are your guesses, fortune tellers. The version that is closer to me is that Rubezh, Avangard is a launch vehicle and a warhead for it, and “weaving” - yes, it is related to the Yu-71. And in most sources it’s the same.

These are not my guesses. "Rubezh" is a fairly small missile, about 11-12 meters long, two-stage with a range slightly greater than intercontinental. During testing, it flew 5800 km. It is based on a 12x12 chassis, that is, a six-axle one. There is simply no place to put a planning block there either. And it's long enough. The Rubezh was described as a missile with new combat equipment, where each warhead has its own engine and is launched with its help. And then it flies like a regular warhead. The Avangard engine can only be used for atmospheric maneuvering. He will not be able to deploy these “warheads”. More precisely, it can, but it will burn all the fuel. Despite the fact that this is a fairly large unit, it simply will not fit under the head fairing of the Rubezh...

In addition, the name “Vanguard” most likely was given to the planning unit “product 4202”. Because this is the only thing that has been tested for the last 5 years. There were simply no other tests (if we assume that 4202 and Vanguard are different things).

Quote: Vadim237

It is no more than 3 meters long - just a glide warhead, with miniature orientation engines, an active radar + Glonass homing head.

This, unfortunately, cannot be proven. I have seen data for both 7 meters and 5 meters, but never seen a figure for 3 meters. So it’s quite difficult to talk about length without accurate data. Moreover, the gliding plane must have some kind of planes, and placing them in a 3-meter-long apparatus is quite difficult.
I will give as an example a drawing from Militaryrussia. Not the truth, of course in the last instance, but conveys the general meaning

In the top picture, this aircraft is inside the elongated head of the 15Yu71 rocket. The second picture is a side view, the third is a top view. At the same time, the limitation on the diameter of the rocket’s head fairing is about 2 meters, which means approximately the same wing span. The length is respectively about 5 meters.
If. as you say its length will be three meters, then what kind of planes will there be....?

Quote: Xscorpion

If we assume the number of interceptors is dozens per one of our missiles, then anything can be shot down, regardless of the speed and maneuverability of these missiles. Now the number of interceptors does not pose a threat to Russia’s strategic nuclear forces, but their number is increasing every year. Unlike interceptors, the number of nuclear missiles cannot be increased, the START treaties must be respected. And we cannot wait until the number of their interceptors becomes so large that they are guaranteed to intercept our missiles. So there are few options. Either withdraw from the START treaty and rivet a large number of nuclear missiles, or put into service missiles with improved characteristics, the interception of which will require many more interceptors. This is what we do with regularity.

You are absolutely right. There is no impenetrable missile defense system, just as there are no indestructible missiles. It all depends on the strength of the forces. if now the American missile defense system, based on GBI interceptors capable of intercepting ICBMs, has a probability of hitting a target of 0,85, then this means only one thing. To hit one target with a probability of 0,999 - for example, a North Korean warhead, 4 missiles (maximum) will be spent. To defeat the combat equipment of our Voyevoda, at least 56 to 72 interceptor missiles of this type will be needed. That is, they are not able to intercept even one Voevoda with a 100% guarantee. It is clear that a target can be hit by one warhead, especially if it is a kinetic interceptor. But then the missile defense system will be able to intercept 2-3 Voevodes under such conditions. But if you deploy not 44 of them, as now, but 244, even the gliding controlled units will not pass, because they will hit them even at the stage of ballistic flight
Yes, you are right, the number of interceptor missiles is currently not limited, unlike the number of ICBMs. But the cost of such a missile defense system is prohibitive. And it does not guarantee protection, especially if there is a massive blow. They will break through any missile defense system. And it is solved in various ways. from a banal increase in the number of missiles (within the permissible limits) and the number of warheads (again, within the permissible limits) to the use of more energy-intensive trajectories, but on which it is much more difficult to intercept targets. In any case, the cost of creating a missile defense system exceeds the cost of deploying ICBMs

[askme]

Once again: your guesses about the length of “Rubezh” being 11-12 meters are just your assumptions, not facts. And Vanguard blocks are obviously not heavy for Rubezh. Their weight is only a few. hundreds of kg. But the Yu-71 is clearly a heavy block. You have only your own guesses and assumptions, not facts. I repeat once again: most sources believe that Avangard and Rubezh are one system. But Yu-71 and Sotka are a different project. And they are discussed separately. It's been many years now. And soon we will find out the exact numbers: as soon as ours transmit official data on the US complex in accordance with START-3

[major147]

Quote: Vladimir16

Here again Bismarck recalls:

Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main power of Russia. Russians, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, will just as quickly reunite with each other as particles of a cut piece of mercury. This is an indestructible state of the Russian nation, strong in its climate, its spaces and limited needs.

And this:

Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

And of course:

Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.

We need to demonstrate once again that we are RUSSIAN.
This applies to those who are Russian, who remained in Ukraine. Let the whole world understand that Ukraine is a Russian land.

Thank God that Putin did not go to Russia. It seemed that kirdyk, but survived. Hooray! Hurray to all of us !!! The mood then rose on the first of March! In Russia before Peter the First of March was a new year according to the church calendar.

"It was worth any army to declare itself

first in the world as she inevitably met

Cheerful Russians on their way

shelves - and ... became the second in the world "

historian A.A. Kersnovsky

[high]

Quote: Tiras

Quote: Setrac

what funds do we lack?

Russia has a much higher standard of real life. Having a GDP according to PPP that is fifth or sixth in the world. Moreover, since 1991, they have been subjected to targeted external persecution at all levels, and since 2014, especially sophisticated. So your links are bullshit. They don't give anything.

It’s impossible to lie in the days of the Internet.
By the way, the links are Russian.
Russian academician Aganbegyan:
Of the 150 countries in the world in terms of economic development - an indicator of GDP - in terms of purchasing power parity per capita - Russia ranks 43rd,
- by a comparable level of real incomes and real wages - 50–55th place,
- by the UN Social Development Index - 65th place,
- in terms of living standards of pensioners - 78th place,
- providing comfortable housing - 80th place,
- according to life expectancy - 90th place,
- in terms of quality of healthcare - 119th place.
- And only in terms of quality and level of education Russia has 30th place in the world.
https://rns.online/opinions/O-realnom-meste-Rossi
iv-mirovoi-ekonomike-2017-02-16 /

[askme]

That's it. You are really and blatantly lying. Once again, for the dumb, but capable of reading: the GDP of the Russian Federation at PPP (purchasing power parity) in the world for 2016 according to the IMF: $3862 billion, i.e. SIXTH in the world (immediately after Germany, almost on the same level with it).

There are so many professional liars on the forum. Scum... Elementary statistics, after all!

Thus, Russia now occupies practically its historical place (which was before 1913, i.e. approximately fifth). Far ahead of France, Great Britain, Italy - who were among the economic leaders of the world a century ago. Now they are behind China, India, Russia and even Brazil... This is a historical shift...

[Natalia777]

NEWS: 04.03.2018/3/XNUMX. "Residents of several regions of the Ural Federal District noticed a dazzling meteor in the sky. Eyewitnesses managed to remove the fireball in the video. A meteorite flew over the Sverdlovsk and Chelyabinsk regions on the night of March XNUMX. According to residents of the Urals, a bright blue reflection was rapidly moving across the sky. ”
I think that it was not a car, but a test of a new Russian rocket. It flies at 10 times the sound level and creates a plasma cloud in front of it. Due to its high speed, the rocket itself is neither visible nor heard. Only the plasma cloud is visible. Let the United States look at what Russian weapons they will now have to deal with.

[cedar]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

In the United States, most leading media outlets reacted quite calmly to the Russian president’s demarche. Their general message is as follows: in the presence of mutual deterrent nuclear potential new missiles change little, since they are not suitable for small wars, and only a suicide can start a nuclear war. However, Russia's threats are unlikely to go unnoticed and the reaction will be to limit financial and technological contacts.

Yeah. Build missile defense bases, arm destroyers with them, and at the same time sing pigeon songs.
And how did these new missiles nullify your missile defense system and throw it under the dog’s tail? Throw out outdated technologies and spent billions down the drain at once. How do you like these counter-sanctions from Moscow?

[stone]

And that all the adherents of Putin’s super-weapons sect are modestly silent about a nuclear-powered missile. Was it adopted into service too? Have you tried it? How can you believe this in all seriousness?
We have not even adopted the Armata, which was shown with fanfare in 2015! Three years ago!!! And this is just a tank, not a revolutionary nuclear-powered missile or hypersonic weapon.

[Full name]

askme,
askme,
Smart guy, can you read? Read my post above. I cited the Soviet Union as an example of a country that confirms its words with deeds. And to demonstrate the capabilities of the announced types of promising weapons, there is no need to equip them with nuclear warheads, even an oligophrenic understands this, it’s a pity that not you.

[Xscorpion]

Quote: stone

And that all the adherents of Putin’s super-weapons sect are modestly silent about a nuclear-powered missile. Was it adopted into service too? Have you tried it? How can you believe this in all seriousness?
We have not even adopted the Armata, which was shown with fanfare in 2015! Three years ago!!! And this is just a tank, not a revolutionary nuclear-powered missile or hypersonic weapon.

Why are you dragging Armata along? This is not an MBT, but a platform for a number of weapons. And until the tests of the last weapons for this platform are completed, it will not be accepted for service. And by the way, non-acceptance for service does not mean that it will not be produced at this time, it may even be used in combat take part in actions before putting it into service.

[sergei viktorovich]

Why is everyone so happy? New bomb!!!!!! HOORAY !!!!! But I would be more pleased that a new kindergarten, school, hospital, factory, etc. has opened. You need to take care of your own people. Rockets are good, but we collect money for children via SMS for treatment abroad and not at home for free. We treat our pensioners they don’t travel around the world, but barely make ends meet. So where’s the joy???!!! Sad and insulting for the Motherland...........

[Edvid]

Quote: RusskiyMos

True, a couple of weeks ago the Americans sent about 200 Russian mercenaries to the next world in Syria, and no Russian missiles helped. Not even a single dryer came to the rescue of the guys. And yes, you can watch cartoons on TV before the elections))

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Typical Western media crap. The death toll was only a few people. But non-combat losses are tens of times greater than combat ones - this is a big problem: the result of poor training of military and civil aviation pilots.

[ver_]

Quote: Monos

Personally, it seems to me that the 1 of March 2018 of the year the arms race is over. It’s ridiculous to catch up with the one who went around you for a couple of laps.

...* I won’t catch up, so I’ll warm up *..