Turkish media: Kurds use "Russian" ATGM "Competition" against Turkey

February 1 2018 70

Iraq has received reports of the deaths of two Turkish soldiers during clashes with Iraqi Kurds. In Turkey, it is stated that the Turkish army units are fighting in Iraq with representatives of the armed wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party. RIA News cites the statement of the Turkish General Staff:

As a result of an attack by members of a separatist terrorist organization in the Kani Rush area in northern Iraq, two of our comrades in arms, two more were injured.

Earlier, the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces issued a report on the destruction of 49 representatives of the PKK in the north of Iraq - as a result of a series of air strikes inflicted by Turkish military aircraft.

At the same time, Turkish media claim that Turkish provinces from the Syrian Afrin are being attacked using anti-tank systems. Informational portal Anadolu writes that Kurdish troops used anti-tank systems 9K113 "Competition" against Turkey. It is noted that as a result of the use of the "Russian" "Competition" no one was hurt. The Turkish media article used just such a term - the “Russian” ATGM.

At the same time, "Anadolu" does not inform readers that the ATCM "Competition" (the production of which began almost half a century ago) were (are) in service with dozens of countries, including Georgia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Morocco, Libya, Poland, Ukraine, etc. the ATGM were in service with the SAR army - including, being in the warehouses of the CAA, taken under their control in the north of the country, Kurdish armed formations. Moreover, the “Competition” ATGM marking is 9K111-1, and the missiles for it are 9М113. As you can see, the Turkish media decided to "mix" the labeling.

Important: this weapon was produced with ammunition not only in the USSR, but also in Iran, Germany (GDR) and India.

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Andrey K

+28

1 February 2018 19: 12

... Kurdish forces use "Russian" ATGM "Competition" against Turkey ...

The Kurds use what Turkey’s NATO ally gave them. I can even guess where the legs of the "Russian" ATGM "Competition" grow from.
Brothers lit up the resale of Belarusian ATGM "Competition", naturally at the click of the Americans.
In September 2015, Purple Shovel LLC from Delaware won a tender by the US Department of Defense Special Forces General Purpose Directorate (SOCOM) to ship $ 50 million worth of weapons to the Syrian armed opposition trained by the US military. grenade launchers carried out in Bulgaria. At the same time, 700 guided missiles of the 9M113 "Competition" anti-tank complex also appeared. In Bulgaria they were absent, but there were in Belarus. They were bought by the Bulgarian arms dealer company Alexander Dimitrov Alguns ltd and as a result the ATGMs were at the disposal of SOCOM.

So do not go to a fortuneteller - it is precisely the Kurds who have them.
1. Vitaly Anisimov
  
  +12
  
  1 February 2018 19: 18
  
  Learn to fight the gentlemen of the Turks and there is nothing to cry ..! You have limited time for this operation ...
  1. Pax tecum
    
    +6
    
    1 February 2018 20: 04
    
    ... Moreover, the marking ATGM "Competition" - 9K111-1, and missiles for it - 9М113.
    
    Everything is fine. "Do not look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if it is not there" ©
    This name (code, GRAU index) of the products is different: one launcher, and the other missiles.
    The 9m111 and 9м113 missiles differ in range: 2,5 km and 4,5 km, respectively. Well, and by weight and equipped b / h. And, they are launched from the 9K111-1 launcher.
    And, here is the whole complex of ATGM (ATGM) and is called "Competition".
    1. genisis
      
      +4
      
      1 February 2018 22: 28
      
      At the same time, Turkish media say that attacks on the Turkish provinces from Syrian Afrin are carried out using anti-tank systems.
      
      2,5 km and 4,5 km, respectively
      
      And what exactly on the territory of the "Turkish provinces" is fired by Kurds from such distances? Greenhouses with tomatoes?
    2. Evil543
      
      +2
      
      1 February 2018 22: 33
      
      Quote: Pax tecum
      ... Moreover, the marking ATGM "Competition" - 9K111-1, and missiles for it - 9М113.
      
      Everything is fine. "Do not look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if it is not there" ©
      This name (code, GRAU index) of the products is different: one launcher, and the other missiles.
      The 9m111 and 9м113 missiles differ in range: 2,5 km and 4,5 km, respectively. Well, and by weight and equipped b / h. And, they are launched from the 9K111-1 launcher.
      And, here is the whole complex of ATGM (ATGM) and is called "Competition".
      
      Correct me if it’s not right, but the marking is 80 year of manufacture, how long do they have a shelf life? Not more than 15-20 years?
    3. Makk
      
      +2
      
      2 February 2018 12: 24
      
      I’ll take a little action, 9K111- “Bassoon” (portable), 9P148- “Competition” at BRDM-2.
  2. The black
    
    +6
    
    1 February 2018 20: 14
    
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Learn to fight the gentlemen of the Turks and there is nothing to cry ..!
    
    And they, like rats driven into a corner, rush at everyone in a row ...
    1. Baloo
      
      +4
      
      1 February 2018 20: 53
      
      Quote: Black
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Learn to fight the gentlemen of the Turks and there is nothing to cry ..!
      
      And they, like rats driven into a corner, rush at everyone in a row ...
      
      Kurdish forces use "Russian" ATGM "Competition" against Turkey
      
      There is nothing for the Turks to do in our Syrian region. We would sit at home in an embrace with beloved women, would be alive.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        
        +2
        
        1 February 2018 21: 07
        
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: Black
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Learn to fight the gentlemen of the Turks and there is nothing to cry ..!
        
        And they, like rats driven into a corner, rush at everyone in a row ...
        
        Kurdish forces use "Russian" ATGM "Competition" against Turkey
        
        There is nothing for the Turks to do in our Syrian region. We would sit at home in an embrace with beloved women, would be alive.
        
        Well, Putin gave Erdogan the opportunity to “try” hehe heh .. Let him feel what it’s like to “damn the water” directly .. The Turks thought it was easy for us all ..?
        On this video like ... heh heh ... well
        
        Allahu Akbar Russian VKS and special forces !!!
    2. Solomon Kane
      
      +4
      
      2 February 2018 01: 17
      
      What do you want?
      A herd of rams led by a lion are lions, and a herd of lions headed by a ram are rams!
      
      What can you do .... gentlemen, Janissaries, with the "lion you are mistaken."
      The situation, of course, is paradoxical ...
      Something like this: a drunk CHEL, at X5, flies into a bus stop, there are victims injured ... And the burghers that produce the BMW car are to blame for everything?
      Logic .... TIN!
  3. private person
    
    +2
    
    1 February 2018 20: 19
    
    Limited time? They will be there as much as they want, if anyone could prevent them from doing so they would not be there. And they are fighting not bad minimum losses, judging by the news on VO.
    1. Babur_Imperat
      
      0
      
      2 February 2018 09: 33
      
      Yes, the Turks have a lot of resources and people and money. It goes on for a long time such a world is arranged.
  4. Slon_on
    
    +1
    
    1 February 2018 23: 08
    
    I thought, to see the Erdogan Sultan, "as we right now throw the Entih Kurds with fez", however, an Indian dwelling place was formed - to the figs.
2. The black
  
  +4
  
  1 February 2018 19: 28
  
  Kurds use what Turkey’s NATO ally gave them
  ... or sold. .... not in vain, because all over Ukraine, warehouses took off for air ....
3. Angel_and_Demon
  
  +6
  
  1 February 2018 19: 30
  
  Quote: Andrey K
  So do not go to a fortuneteller - it is precisely the Kurds who have them.
  
  business and nothing personal, bros will again say that they love us and have always been with us, I even received a warning for a dispute with them
4. vlad66
  
  +14
  
  1 February 2018 19: 34
  
  The Turkish media article used just such a term - “Russian” ATGM.
  
  And the Kurds use AK of various modifications and many more toys and cho?
  1. cniza
    
    +3
    
    1 February 2018 21: 19
    
    Now, if they used the flag of Russia then yes and then, and here we are.
5. RASKAT
  
  +3
  
  1 February 2018 19: 41
  
  And why be surprised or the Turks thought that the Kurds would silently watch them being killed. And they could take the same Pturov from Anusra in Aleppo for example. There, militants threw Ptury wagons.
6. Lex.
  
  +2
  
  1 February 2018 22: 47
  
  Brothers lit up the resale of Belarusian ATGM "Competition
  Can you provide evidence otherwise is it a slap?
  1. Andrey K
    
    +11
    
    2 February 2018 01: 41
    
    Quote: Lex.
    Brothers lit up the resale of Belarusian ATGM "Competition
    Can you provide evidence otherwise is it a slap?
    
    Have you forgotten how to read? I did not write a gag, I copied a whole paragraph, indicating who, where, when and how much. Can you also present a launcher with accompanying documents?
    More precisely, the information is interesting: look, but find it. Tyrnet to help you
    1. Lex.
      
      +1
      
      2 February 2018 08: 29
      
      While I see the MZKT transporting Turkish tanks
7. pytar
  
  +3
  
  1 February 2018 23: 39
  
  ... 2015 of the year, Purple Shovel LLC .... the purchase of grenades and hand anti-tank grenade launchers was carried out in Bulgaria. At the same time, 700 guided missiles of the 9M113 Competition anti-tank complex also appeared. In Bulgaria they were absent, but there were in Belarus. They were bought by a Bulgarian arms dealer company .. etc ..
  
  If true, I congratulate the Bulgarian gunsmiths! Well done Kurds that fight so bravely against neo-Ottoman invasions! Despite the total transcendence of the second strongest NATO army, the Kurds do not retreat! Afrin, this is theirs Stalingrad!
  1. Mavrikiy
    
    +1
    
    2 February 2018 05: 54
    
    Vidik is interesting, but ....
    From the video: the victims of WWII are Armenians, WWII are Jews, now they are Kurds. Let me remind you, as a result, after the victims, the Jews and Armenians gained their statehood. Therefore, you are on the path of being drenched in blood, but it is your choice.
    1. pytar
      
      0
      
      2 February 2018 10: 02
      
      ... but it's your choice.
      
      It is unlikely that the Kurds have a choice. Nobody will give them national freedom if they themselves do not fight for it! And we must pay tribute to them! Fighting bravely, despite the inequality of power! Moreover, the whole world is bashfully pretending not to know what it is about! ISIS’s accomplice and the main terrorist Erdogan themselves, now "fighting the terrorists"! Parody! Ha ha ha ...
      1. Mavrikiy
        
        +2
        
        2 February 2018 10: 46
        
        Haha Laughter through tears?
        1. The main terrorist is Trump, now.
        2. Kurds dealt with him. We received weapons of assistance and the promise of freedom-independence. "So what's the question, go to him. Ah threw it. A real man: he gave his word, he took his word.
        3. "Homeland-Homeland ..." Your Homeland Syria. Options offered. Do not want, then go ahead. The United States will offer cartridges, and you will punish the Turks.
        4. There you are 30 million people, so you crush the Turks alone. Can't agree to rally? so what to talk about. Which state? You will slaughter each other for power from morning till morning. From the beginning, decide who you are and why. Then others will decide whether you are or are against.
        5. Russia is not to blame for the mess in your head.
        I WANT and for this I want, I will kill. Well, that’s the result. There is a region, there are problems, the main one is ISIS.
        Nobody forbids fishing in troubled waters, but don’t hope for help then either.
        PS There is always a choice. No need la la. Offers were from Syria. No, let's go for the USA., Here we are.
        
        pytar
        
        0
        
        2 February 2018 11: 14
        
        1. The main terrorist is Trump, now.
        - the competition continues!
        2. Kurds dealt with him. We received weapons of assistance and the promise of freedom-independence. "So what's the question, go to him. Ah threw it. A real man: he gave his word, he took his word.
        - Kurds have had and will continue to deal with those who said that they would support their cause! She is fair, and Trump like all the drum players there. There are no real men in this "game". There are some geopolitical interests!
        3. "Homeland-Homeland ..." Your Homeland Syria. Options offered. Do not want, then go ahead. The United States will offer cartridges, and you will punish the Turks.
        - From time immemorial, the Kurds have one homeland - Kurdistan! Who has so unjustly redrawn borders by dividing 40 million people on different sides and in different states? Colonial Empires - Britain and France! It turns out that Assad, trying to maintain the "territorial integrity" of Syria, supports this injustice!
        4. 30 million people are there, so you are the only ones to crush the Turks. You cannot agree, rally? ... From the beginning, decide who you are and why. Then others will decide whether you are or are against.
        - 40 MILLION! Will agree. Insolent Turkish aggression will lead to the putting together of the ranks of the Kurdish resistance! Turks will not be able to defeat the Kurds! Digging the coffin of the Kurds, the Turks themselves will fall into it!
        5. Russia is not to blame for the mess in your head.
        - Russia is not to blame for anything. Interest is ruled by politics. High moral motives ... they are for propaganda.
        There is a region, there are problems, the main one is ISIS.
        Kurds have a weighty contribution to the defeat of ISIS. Kurds are good fighters!
        Nobody forbids fishing in troubled waters, but don’t hope for help then either.
        - This is not about helping because of the moral motivations that exist but everyone does not give a damn about them. Here we are talking about how the strategic situation in Syria will change if the Turks occupy the canton of Afrin? Erdogan’s statements that they will leave are not worth believing! Erdogan cannot be trusted at all! Skolsky, insidious type!
        PS There is always a choice. No need la la. Offers were from Syria. No, let's go for the USA., Here we are.
        - The Kurds have one choice! Freedom or death! This is so for all the beaten peoples fighting for their independence! For them, an ally is the one who will help in their just cause! Everything else is a variation on the theme of "bazaar geopolitics."
        
        Mavrikiy
        
        +1
        
        2 February 2018 16: 07
        
        - The Kurds have had and will continue to deal with those who said that they would support their cause! She's fair
        
        1. Well, keep it up. May you live happily ever after.
        2. Justice for some often turns out to be injustice for others. What do you think?
        From time immemorial, the Kurds have one homeland - Kurdistan!
        
        And this is not the Ottoman Empire for an hour?
        Russia is not to blame. Interest is ruled by politics.
        
        If so, then you should be patient, and clever God Allah always gives a chance.
        
        pytar
        
        0
        
        2 February 2018 16: 54
        
        1. Well have farther. May you live happily ever after.
        
        You obviously are confusing something ... Here is the Kurdish flag:
        
        Well let the Kurds decide! This is their right!
        2. Justice for some often turns out to be injustice for others. What do you think?
        
        It happens, but this is not the case.
        And this is not the Ottoman Empire for an hour?
        
        Kurds are one of the oldest peoples of the Middle East. And all the time they live in the same areas. The Ottoman Empire was created and expanded to their lands much later. Somewhere in the sixteenth century. She was a multinational empire. She hasn’t been around for a long time. Turkey is a national state of the Turks. According to the Turkish constitution, all citizens of Turkey, "are Turks." There is a fact of non-recognition of 20 million of the Kurdish ethnic group living in its territory.
        If so, then you should be patient, and clever God Allah always gives a chance.
        
        For the Mogamedans according to their beliefs, it is.
Vard

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1 February 2018 19: 13

The key ... many were produced where ... like Kalashnikov ... the same quality .. "It is noted that as a result of the use of the" Russian "Competition, no one was hurt."
1. reservist
  
  +2
  
  1 February 2018 19: 21
  
  as a result of the use of the "Russian" "Competition" no one was hurt. "
  
  It can't be that no one was hurt
  Provocateurs! Deliberately belittle the power of Russian weapons
  1. Pax tecum
    
    +4
    
    1 February 2018 20: 11
    
    It may well. And this does not detract from the strength of Russian weapons. The weapon is very formidable, but controlled by wire, and for many, the storage and warranty period of 100% has expired. Yes, and how is it stored?
    Wires can tear (yes, and usually tear) from sudden movements of the operator on the launcher.
  2. PalBor
    
    +2
    
    1 February 2018 20: 21
    
    Quote: reservist
    as a result of the use of the "Russian" "Competition" no one was hurt. "
    
    It can't be that no one was hurt
    Provocateurs! Deliberately belittle the power of Russian weapons
    
    They do not belittle, but even fantasize .. The stuffing from supposedly Kurds has already begun, that they are fired at by Russian helicopters and cause considerable damage.
    1. Paranoid50
      
      +1
      
      1 February 2018 22: 34
      
      Quote: PalBor
      stuffing from supposedly Kurds that they are fired at by Russian helicopters and cause considerable damage
      
      Maybe the Kurds. Maybe they combed it once or twice. Perhaps infa "old", from the shores of the Euphrates. There the Kurds tried to bull, so they were lucidly explained that they didn’t need to do this, because ... they didn’t. And now the information has gone "to the second round." Well, or now the Turkish identification Kurds on the sides have beguiled ours. This is already becoming an international feature - in any incomprehensible situation, blame everything on the Russians.
Russia

+10

1 February 2018 19: 16

What God sent is welcome.
1. san4es
  
  +4
  
  1 February 2018 19: 18
  
  Quote: Rusland
  What God sent is welcome.
  1. Angel_and_Demon
    
    +6
    
    1 February 2018 19: 32
    
    Strange they have some kind of god - diverse
    1. san4es
      
      +4
      
      1 February 2018 19: 34
      
      Quote: Angel_and_Demon
      Strange they have some kind of god - diverse
      
      ...Universal
      Representatives of many pagan cultures worshiped the god of war, sometimes not just one. Since the primitive peoples of antiquity, the victory in the war was revered as the grace of heaven, the gods of war occupied an important position in the pantheon. Each tribe had its own god of war, but often these gods were endowed with similar traits of character.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        
        +9
        
        1 February 2018 19: 47
        
        Quote: san4es
        ...Universal
        
        san4es
        
        +6
        
        1 February 2018 19: 51
        
        Kurdish gods. sometimes turn back to them
        
        Feb 1 2018 year
        
        Angel_and_Demon
        
        +6
        
        1 February 2018 19: 54
        
        Quote: san4es
        sometimes turn back to them
        
        tolerant means
Vikalst

+4

1 February 2018 19: 24

The best advertisement for any weapon is real DB ..... The Yankees promise their "Javelins" to many ... but they don’t give Ours promise nothing to anyone ... but they do a lot It’s interesting when the Taliban in Afghanistan have something like a "Competition" appears ... or maybe immediately "Cornet" with "Verba" ....
1. Tusv
  
  +1
  
  1 February 2018 20: 38
  
  Quote: Vikalst
  when the Taliban in Afghanistan have something like a “Competition”
  
  The Husites of barefoot Competitions have even attacked the Leclercians, for which the Saudis were terribly offended and brought out the gold tanks from Yemen, but the Taliban don’t? Figs are asking the Persians
Herculesic

+3

1 February 2018 19: 44

The Turks need to rejoice that the Kurds do not shoot well - in this case, the ammunition was wasted! More precisely, you need to beat, and immediately with two shots! !!
RUSOIVAN

0

1 February 2018 19: 48

Greetings!
faterdom

+2

1 February 2018 20: 05

http://in24.org/world/30532?utm_source=warfiles.r
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The inflatable tank is caught.
martin-159

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1 February 2018 20: 47

It seems that we are making excuses.
Farid Alekperov

+4

1 February 2018 20: 48

Quote: RASKAT
And why be surprised or the Turks thought that the Kurds would silently watch them being killed. And they could take the same Pturov from Anusra in Aleppo for example. There, militants threw Ptury wagons.

Actually, the news says that they are firing at the territory of Turkey from the anti-tank forces. That is, they shoot not at the advancing troops, but at the border territory. As if in this way it would be possible to stop the Turks
Farid Alekperov

+4

1 February 2018 20: 51

Quote: Herkulesich
The Turks need to rejoice that the Kurds do not shoot well - in this case, the ammunition was wasted! More precisely, you need to beat, and immediately with two shots! !!

Nothing will help the Kurdish militants there. Erdogan left them a corridor in the southwest and slowly squeezes them to Assad
1. Mama Kalashyan
  
  +1
  
  2 February 2018 08: 33
  
  it's a sly fox Erdogan he drove himself into the trap
  Kurds live on their historical land, and they should not be afraid of blood and death, and whoever writes poorly about Kurds, their knees tremble with fear
  Kurds soon this "olive branch" will be fucked by Erdogan's ass
  1. pytar
    
    0
    
    2 February 2018 10: 05
    
    it's a sly fox Erdogan he drove himself into the trap
    
    Sly fox Erdogan, will outwit himself! But how much more blood will be shed, this bloody satrap ?!
Technikner

+2

1 February 2018 21: 20

Kurds, they are. They won’t have anything, they will shoot with slingshots, but they will go against the Turks to the end.
1. pytar
  
  +1
  
  2 February 2018 12: 59
  
  While Erdogan destroyed the color of the Turkish army, the Kurds learned to fight! And we must give them their due! Learned to fight well!
Kent0001

+1

1 February 2018 21: 38

And Th, we will make excuses for the tunnel. I think no. And so one thing was upset that these earhooks do not know how to use them and have not done harm.
q75agent

+2

1 February 2018 22: 28

off-topic video of course, but here's how our rooks risk
Vkd dvk

0

1 February 2018 22: 52

In this case, the Turks are doing a very useful job, driving the Kurds, who are supported by the Americans under Assad’s jurisdiction.
The Kurds are faced with a dilemma - either to be beaten by the Turks, or to agree to Syrian citizenship. Russia welcomes indivisible Syria, and in this case we will have to put pressure on Erdogan to stop the disgrace. Until the Kurds understand this, they need to be taught by the hands of the Turks.
Vincent

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1 February 2018 23: 08

Ayayay ... Well this is happening, good people! It’s not democratic to fight! Urgently put them American!
tihonmarine

+2

2 February 2018 00: 47

AK-46, AKM, RPG-7, "Fly", "Competition" are sold to everyone and use the floor of the world, so it is not surprising that these devices are used by Kurds. And the Kurdish fighters are magnificent.
Hadji Murat

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2 February 2018 02: 05

norms, let them wet each other, there will be no time to do other things, and CAA at this time must be quickly cleaned from the shit Idlib
viktor.

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2 February 2018 03: 17

Is it presenting to Russia or fear of Russian weapons ???
Mavrikiy

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2 February 2018 05: 11

As a result of an attack by members of a separatist terrorist organization in the Kani Rash region of northern Iraq, two of our comrades in arms were killed and two others were injured.

And what are Turkish soldiers doing in Iraq? Ah, they ensure the security of Turkey (like ours in Syria), then there is no need to complain "they attacked and they got stuffed"
At the same time, Turkish media say that attacks on the Turkish provinces from Syrian Afrin are carried out using anti-tank systems.

And the quarters in Turkey do not bomb? Thank God. And then the whole ATGM, do not tell me the radius of action?
And to what extent Afrin is now Syrian, a question. According to the documents, yes. Financing .....
Wolka

+2

2 February 2018 05: 22

Turks are good at moaning and complaining, they started a war, fight, those whom you came to kill are fighting as they are, and apparently they are fighting quite well ...
Mavrikiy

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2 February 2018 05: 31

and missiles for him - 9M113. As you can see, the Turkish media decided to "mix" the labeling.

I didn’t understand anything.
Two fragments are shown in the photo and 9M113 is clearly read on them. So what?
Half the world is fighting with our weapons. And if a Turkish soldier is killed by a "Russian" bullet and this will be proved, is it also an account?
Romanenko

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2 February 2018 05: 46

There is also a richer argument, even more lethal - the majority of Kurds and Ishilov armed with Kalashnikovs, and some of them are of Russian and Soviet manufacture, here Russia will not be heated ...
True, they also have a lot of American weapons, but this, so to speak, is a coincidence, the bandits stole from the democratic forces.
Metallurg_2

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2 February 2018 06: 59

100% "Competitions" - from burnt out Ukrainian arsenals.
NKVD

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2 February 2018 07: 39

The tail of the Metis.
Mama Kalashyan

+1

2 February 2018 08: 20

Erdogan, they are bombing the eyes of the world, they are killing civilians. And it’s true that the Kurds use the "Russian ATGM" against Turkey
1. pytar
  
  +1
  
  2 February 2018 10: 08
  The reaction of “honest” media in the world is interesting!
Seraphimamur

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2 February 2018 10: 05

Yes Ukrainians sold "Competitions" they have a lot left after the USSR.
1. pytar
  
  0
  
  2 February 2018 11: 19
  
  Finally, one good thing with their side! "Bad" weapons hit in good hands!
pafegosoff

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2 February 2018 12: 46

Syrian Kurds or their relatives in Turkey? If - Syrian, then they took in Syria. If in Turkey, then they took from the Syrian brothers ... Question - ...