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Tests of the latest Russian torpedo will end in 2018 year

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The Tactical Missiles Corporation will complete testing of the latest Russian torpedo before the end of this year, said Boris Obnosov, General Director of the corporation.


Tests of the latest Russian torpedo will end in 2018 year


Work on the maritime subject is conducted by several enterprises of the corporation. In particular, the State Scientific Production Enterprise "Region", concern "MPO-Gidropribor".

I very much hope that we will hold them exactly at the appointed time
- quotes Obnosova "Interfax".

Obnosov recalled that the corporation has created such products as an armament complex with a high-speed underwater missile "Shkval-E", a small-sized anti-submarine complex with the anti-torpedo "Package-E / NK".

Previously a leading developer of torpedo weapons Academician Shamil Aliyev reported that the Soviet-era high-speed torpedo “Flurry” will be able to operate at a depth of more than 100 meters.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 January 2018 18: 53
    +2
    The Tactical Missiles Corporation will complete testing of the latest Russian torpedo before the end of this year, said Boris Obnosov, General Director of the corporation.

    Interestingly, will the Predator be tested too?
    1. just exp
      just exp 24 January 2018 19: 36
      +6
      and I’m more interested in long-range torpedoes, albeit at a slow speed, but at a low speed, just let them go to the intended section of the AUG passage, and they will be spotted, if spotted, just before they hit, unlike anti-ship missiles, which are scorched by both NK and DRLO AUG.
      just a small torpedo range is a small radius of the search circle for submarines with turrets, and a radius of more than 100 km makes the submarine practically unavailable.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 24 January 2018 21: 24
        18
        Quote: just explo
        and I’m more interested in long-range torpedoes, albeit at a low speed, but at a low speed,
        And even better - a hybrid: at a relatively low speed, get close to the “victim” and switch to jet thrust.
        Not a torpedo will be - a song!
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 24 January 2018 22: 48
          0
          Quote: Simargl
          Not a torpedo will be - a song!

          you're right, all the same, getting close to the 10 km zone of the AUG is problematic enough.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 25 January 2018 05: 44
            +1
            I’m talking about this: to get close to the enemy at a distance when detection is problematic (say, on the opposite course), to launch a torpedo - it will come closer and crash.
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 25 January 2018 03: 09
          +2
          Quote: Simargl
          Slow to get close to the "victim" and switch to jet thrust.

          This option will be better .... but no one, for some reason, does not take into account that the ships in the combat order do not "stand still" ... they move quickly, maneuvering (for example, a zigzag maneuver) ... plus means of detection in the active state. Your "hybrid" torpedo in the "slow-moving" section may lose its target. When using torpedoes, you always need to choose the direction and angle of attack; i.e. all the same, there are restrictions on torpedoes.
      2. Genry
        Genry 24 January 2018 21: 38
        +2
        Quote: just explo
        and I am more interested in long-range torpedoes, albeit even at low speed, but at a slow speed, just let them go to the proposed section of the passage of the AUG

        Status-6 is supposed to be used against large naval formations. She has the brains to find AUG.
        1. just exp
          just exp 25 January 2018 00: 55
          0
          it is already an atomic weapon, in addition, if modern means, and even old means are not modern, even made it possible to hear a torpedo, then they’ll definitely hear the status6.
          1. Genry
            Genry 25 January 2018 11: 06
            0
            Quote: just explo
            it is already an atomic weapon

            This is a weapon !!! And if you are afraid of war, do not think about it.
            Quote: just explo
            moreover, if modern means, and even old means are not modern, made it possible to hear even a torpedo, then status6 will certainly be heard.

            Let them hear !!! With its speed, all countermeasures are useless.
          2. Anatoly R
            Anatoly R 25 January 2018 16: 25
            0
            And who told you that the status will rush. Maybe he is already there where necessary.
      3. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 25 January 2018 02: 58
        +1
        Quote: just explo
        even at low speed, but at a low speed

        From a “slow-moving” (low-speed) torpedo, a ship is much more likely to avoid defeat ...
        1. Vkd dvk
          Vkd dvk 25 January 2018 13: 07
          +2
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Quote: just explo
          even at low speed, but at a low speed

          From a “slow-moving” (low-speed) torpedo, a ship is much more likely to avoid defeat ...

          Under one condition, he sees her. I wonder how with the detection of torpedoes reaching the target from the depths? Are there layers with different temperatures and, therefore, being good screens for detection? Add a couple of kilometers - a kilometer to dive, a kilometer to ascend to the target, with 80-70 kilometer firing ranges - this is a trifle.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 25 January 2018 14: 23
            +1
            Quote: Vkd dvk
            detecting torpedoes reaching the target from the depths? Are there layers with different temperatures and, therefore, being good screens for detection? Add a couple of kilometers - a kilometer for diving, a kilometer for ascent to the target, with 80-70 kilometer firing ranges - this is a trifle.

            Well, you something "broke up, got sick"! One could speculate on this topic, too ... but call me, I don’t have time now!
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 24 January 2018 19: 04
    +5
    We will wait for the results, and we hope that the fleet will be pleased with them! good soldier
    1. Saburov
      Saburov 24 January 2018 19: 10
      +9
      Quote: Herkulesich
      We hope that the fleet will be pleased with them!


      Do we really have a fleet? I think we have the remnants of the fleet from the USSR.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 24 January 2018 19: 15
        28
        Quote: Saburov
        Do we really have a fleet? I think we have the remnants of the fleet from the USSR.

        Aren't you ashamed of such statements ?! However, corrupt skins have never used their conscience!
        1. Saburov
          Saburov 24 January 2018 19: 20
          14
          Quote: Tol100v
          Are you not ashamed of such statements?


          I am ashamed of those who cut our fleet into needles and sold the ships of the First Rank for a penny.
          But this fleet is suitable only for bullets from the Caspian Sea to bullet, it is incapable of full-fledged combat missions of the fleet, due to the limited number of fleet combat units, deterioration, long-term construction and training of military personnel.

          Quote: Tol100v
          However, corrupt skins have never used their conscience!


          Are you talking about the Kremlin? I agree!
          1. smart ass
            smart ass 24 January 2018 19: 25
            15
            What is wrong with a corvette that can fire a caliber of 2500 km? The point of driving expensive buckets of the first rank? The more we wait for hypersound), we’ll wait and our whole duck
            1. Saburov
              Saburov 24 January 2018 19: 52
              13
              Quote: Clever man
              What is wrong with a corvette that can shoot a caliber at 2500 km?


              There is nothing wrong with that, of course. But do not confuse the multitasking of the fleet with individual elements, especially with the guard.

              Quote: Clever man
              The point of driving expensive buckets of the first rank?


              The point is that expensive “buckets” of the first rank have a hundred times more functionality, as well as operational space.

              Quote: Clever man
              The more we are waiting for hypersound)


              You have to wait a long time. Until the laws of physics change and “magic” materials are found and reliable reliable direct-flow engines are created.

              Russia recognized the problems in creating hypersonic weapons.

              Russian developers of hypersonic weapons have to solve the problem of ensuring long-term movement with the hypersonic speed of an object in the atmosphere. This was reported to Izvestia by the adviser to the head of the corporation NPO Mashinostroyeniya on science Herbert Efremov.
              According to the expert, for this it is necessary to create ramjet, rocket-turbo-ramjet or a combination of turbo-ramp marching engines. However, according to him, world-famous direct-flow apparatuses, both domestic and American, are exclusively research.
              “These technologies have not yet been mastered. Moreover, even in direct-flow engines already tested in different countries, it has not yet been possible to provide stable, reliable combustion in combustion chambers when driving in hypersound. It is still unclear whether these problems will be resolved in the near future, ”said Efremov.
              In addition to the development of the marching engine and thermal protection, the creation of a hypersonic apparatus involves the solution of "a mass of other technical problems." “For example, issues of motion control, guidance, the passage of radio waves through plasma. And also ensuring stealth and maneuvering, ”notes Efremov.

              Quote: Clever man
              wait and our whole duck


              Understand the difference between there is and will be.

              Sincerely.
              1. Vkd dvk
                Vkd dvk 24 January 2018 22: 03
                +6
                Quote: Saburov
                Quote: Clever man
                What is wrong with a corvette that can shoot a caliber at 2500 km?


                There is nothing wrong with that, of course. But do not confuse the multitasking of the fleet with individual elements, especially with the guard.

                Quote: Clever man
                The point of driving expensive buckets of the first rank?


                The point is that expensive “buckets” of the first rank have a hundred times more functionality, as well as operational space.

                Quote: Clever man
                The more we are waiting for hypersound)


                You have to wait a long time. Until the laws of physics change and “magic” materials are found and reliable reliable direct-flow engines are created.

                Russia recognized the problems in creating hypersonic weapons.

                Russian developers of hypersonic weapons have to solve the problem of ensuring long-term movement with the hypersonic speed of an object in the atmosphere. This was reported to Izvestia by the adviser to the head of the corporation NPO Mashinostroyeniya on science Herbert Efremov.
                According to the expert, for this it is necessary to create ramjet, rocket-turbo-ramjet or a combination of turbo-ramp marching engines. However, according to him, world-famous direct-flow apparatuses, both domestic and American, are exclusively research.
                “These technologies have not yet been mastered. Moreover, even in direct-flow engines already tested in different countries, it has not yet been possible to provide stable, reliable combustion in combustion chambers when driving in hypersound. It is still unclear whether these problems will be resolved in the near future, ”said Efremov.
                In addition to the development of the marching engine and thermal protection, the creation of a hypersonic apparatus involves the solution of "a mass of other technical problems." “For example, issues of motion control, guidance, the passage of radio waves through plasma. And also ensuring stealth and maneuvering, ”notes Efremov.

                Quote: Clever man
                wait and our whole duck


                Understand the difference between there is and will be.

                Sincerely.

                Do you propose competing in the heavy fleet with the USA? The prospect in this is to lose. Absolutely. Arm wrestling with a heavy, with billionth biceps can not be defeated. Only a nonequilibrium and asymmetric response. A swarm of small, but marine jackal flocks, suddenly out of nowhere and hundreds of Caliber from different directions. "Fishermen" hanging out anywhere with container beater are also suitable. AUG is not a force factor, but a goal factor. There are only 11. And not everyone is close to us. The tasks are quite solvable.
                1. Saburov
                  Saburov 24 January 2018 23: 38
                  +8
                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  Do you propose competing in the heavy fleet with the USA? The prospect in this is to lose. Absolutely. Arm wrestling with a heavy, with billions of biceps cannot be defeated like that.


                  Certainly not to win, if not to enter the ring. And it’s not a matter of billions of biceps, but competent planning of the construction of the fleet and determining the directions of its development, the eradication of mediation and embezzlement in the military departments and military-industrial complex. And not like now here a little bit and there a little and everything is three-expensive and everything does not work a damn thing. There is a lot of bravado, little combat effectiveness.

                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  Only a nonequilibrium and asymmetric response.


                  The asymmetric answer of what? This is when an elephant begins to trample you, and you poke it with a penknife - this is our Russian asymmetric response.

                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  A swarm of small, but marine jackal flocks, suddenly out of nowhere and hundreds of Caliber from different directions.


                  How, for example, this "jackal" flock with limited operational space and in isolation from the bases, with subsonic missiles, most of which are designed to work on stationary targets and with weak air defense, can prevent the enemy squadron at a distance of 2000 km? And if the enemy also has carrier-based AWACS? This pack of yours cannot even get closer to the squadron and, due to the limited range of the guard, it has no chance of maneuvering.

                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  "Fishermen" hanging out anywhere with container clappers are also good.


                  If at least one such "fisherman" slaps a squadron from a "secret" container, then consider that our entire merchant and fish fleet is destroyed, because in two or three days they will drown all civilian vessels with containers under our flag.

                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  AUG is not a force factor, but a goal factor. There are only 11 of them. And not everyone is close to us.


                  Of course not. But the point is not the AUG. For example, they have a lot of destroyers and cruisers. They can do with only destroyers. And in this case we will not be able to do anything, since we have destroyed the naval aviation in the bud, and the mosquito fleet is tied to the shore, the underwater fleet is breathing in the air. The number of combat-ready ships in the fleets can be counted on the fingers.

                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  The tasks are quite solvable.


                  At the moment, the exact opposite picture. The fleet cannot solve the tasks of the fleet, no matter how paradoxical it sounds. The current forces of the fleet do not allow planning and carrying out at least one of the five operations that each fleet must carry out: neither the operation to defeat the enemy, nor search and destroy, nor disrupt enemy communications, nor defend their own forces, nor land the operational personnel. I mean nothing. And you about the "Caliber" from different angles ...
            2. Nikolai Passerby
              Nikolai Passerby 24 January 2018 20: 12
              +3
              Quote: Clever man
              What is wrong with a corvette that can shoot a caliber at 2500 km?

              Maybe, but only for a stationary target on the shore ... On the enemy ship - no. A ship in motion is not a stationary target.
              1. Genry
                Genry 24 January 2018 21: 47
                +4
                Quote: Nikolai Passerby
                Maybe, but only for a stationary target on the shore ... On the enemy ship - no. A ship in motion is not a stationary target.

                You do not know that the Caliber is not just one rocket, but a family. There are sea missiles there that go to coordinates with subsequent detection, classification and target selection (as well as medium and long-range air defense missiles).
                1. Nikolai Passerby
                  Nikolai Passerby 24 January 2018 21: 55
                  +5
                  Quote: Genry
                  You do not know

                  You don’t know anything ... Go to hell or such "experts", there carry your nonsense as much as you like. All the best.
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 24 January 2018 22: 34
                    +3
                    Quote: Nikolai Passerby
                    You don’t know anything ... Go to hell or such "experts", there carry your nonsense as much as you like. All the best.

                    Don’t be so nervous. Well, they didn’t let you spread nonsense information, but you were offended right away ... If I'm wrong on Caliber, then at least tell me why. It's just that this project has been known for a long time as "Club -..." and your desire to "shove the misinformation" is immediately visible.
                    1. Nikolai Passerby
                      Nikolai Passerby 25 January 2018 11: 15
                      +1
                      Quote: Genry
                      Well, they didn’t let you spread the information

                      Go to the doctor already ... Tired of you - couches of couch, no brains, no knowledge of the topic you have. Twins and brothers of galloping Ukrainian moron patriots.
                      1. Genry
                        Genry 25 January 2018 11: 28
                        +2
                        Quote: Nikolai Passerby
                        Tired of you - idiots sofas, no brains, no knowledge of the topic you have.

                        You say that the Caliber simply can’t be aimed at aircraft carriers, then you press on the authority that they say their whole life is in the subject .... You say that nuclear weapons will not be used (do you really think that the Americans will decide to bombard Russia with small bombs ) No specifics are visible in your answers. Are you that former "hands-breeder"?
              2. Vkd dvk
                Vkd dvk 24 January 2018 22: 06
                +3
                Quote: Nikolai Passerby
                Quote: Clever man
                What is wrong with a corvette that can shoot a caliber at 2500 km?

                Maybe, but only for a stationary target on the shore ... On the enemy ship - no. A ship in motion is not a stationary target.

                You do not know. what is there and who can hit moving targets? There is.
                1. Nikolai Passerby
                  Nikolai Passerby 25 January 2018 11: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  You do not know. what is there and who can hit moving targets? There is.

                  I have been dealing with this topic all my life. I continue and now I’m retired ... It’s a long time to explain all this and not the format here. In general, the chances of destroying the AUG are not enough for our current fleet. And they won’t be foolish about our coastal missile systems, not fools ... I don’t consider the use of nuclear weapons, because there will be no winners on both sides.
                  1. Vkd dvk
                    Vkd dvk 25 January 2018 13: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: Nikolai Passerby
                    I do not consider the use of nuclear weapons, because there will be no winners on both sides.

                    Must be considered. For without this consideration, unfortunately, you are largely right.
                    I think that in any business, be it boxing or jumping, you cannot train one muscle. Blow it all the same, even if this muscle is unique. Thanks to our predecessors, AUG is not an actual muscle for us, because we can make it so that they have nowhere to moor.
                    1. Nikolai Passerby
                      Nikolai Passerby 25 January 2018 14: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: Vkd dvk
                      Must be considered.

                      That vigorous warhead is that “miracle weapon” when everyone understands that - you shoot first, you die second ... From this thought nobody wants to use this weapon first.
                      1. Vkd dvk
                        Vkd dvk 25 January 2018 17: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: Nikolai Passerby
                        Quote: Vkd dvk
                        Must be considered.

                        That vigorous warhead is that “miracle weapon” when everyone understands that - you shoot first, you die second ... From this thought nobody wants to use this weapon first.

                        This is already good. And not only THIS, THROUGH THIS is the fear to use what we are lagging behind. Well, at least the same AUG.
                        I am not inclined to overestimate their vastness. They are good where we are not, in the vast oceans. Get closer to the coast? You yourself have already said, they won’t. I think so too.
                        Apparently, we are not alone in such conclusions.
        2. Anatoly R
          Anatoly R 25 January 2018 16: 34
          0
          One motor boat with ZIRCON on board is a disaster for an aircraft carrier.
  3. Gray brother
    Gray brother 24 January 2018 19: 26
    +2
    And the photo in the article from "Dagdiesel".
    "Dagdiesel" is all about the campaign, there you can only plant it and raise the question of the advisability of restoring the enterprise.
  4. Tamagon
    Tamagon 24 January 2018 19: 32
    +2
    A good dashboard is a good target !!! laughing
  5. san4es
    san4es 24 January 2018 19: 35
    +8
    torpedo "Flurry" of Soviet development in the future will be able to operate at a depth of more than 100 meters.

  6. APASUS
    APASUS 24 January 2018 19: 39
    +2
    This is only a test so far and before the series there is still oh how far ...
  7. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 24 January 2018 19: 46
    +3
    Quote: APASUS
    This is only a test so far and before the series there is still oh how far ...

    As before real statesmen in power. sad Therefore, the deadlines for many products are postponed, and some projects are completely frozen for an indefinite period. And most importantly, the justifications are always there, but the money ,,,
  8. sir_obs
    sir_obs 24 January 2018 20: 13
    0
    Dude in the photo, something is rubbing or is it just that face?
  9. Simon
    Simon 24 January 2018 20: 59
    +3
    Quote: Saburov
    Quote: Tol100v
    Are you not ashamed of such statements?


    I am ashamed of those who cut our fleet into needles and sold the ships of the First Rank for a penny.
    But this fleet is suitable only for bullets from the Caspian Sea to bullet, it is incapable of full-fledged combat missions of the fleet, due to the limited number of fleet combat units, deterioration, long-term construction and training of military personnel.

    Quote: Tol100v
    However, corrupt skins have never used their conscience!


    Are you talking about the Kremlin? I agree!

    Apparently this is about Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who, for the sake of Washington, cut the ships of our fleet and strategic missiles of mine and rail-based!
    1. KERMET
      KERMET 24 January 2018 23: 14
      +1
      Railroad-based missiles lacked the spirit to raise either Gorbachev’s hand or Yeltsin’s hand
  10. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 24 January 2018 22: 09
    +2
    It would be better to make her homing. And evading opposition.
  11. Aliens
    Aliens 25 January 2018 00: 40
    0
    Hello everyone, I’m new here, but I think I’m becoming familiar ..
    The Russian fleet urgently needs rocket torpedo boats with seaworthiness of 6 points for the near sea zone
    uninhabited with a keel produced like a sailing boat during a storm and the boat will not turn over; analogue is 12 meter ocean yachts for example ...
    Protection of water areas will be quickly resolved, arm them with a couple of cr ...
    Minimum visibility, speed, etc., etc., and enemies will hide in the Baltic on skerries.
    In the Black Sea, they will generally be afraid to stick up ..
    In general, not my worries ...
    Uninhabited boats, in general, the business of the future ...
    1. Anatoly R
      Anatoly R 25 January 2018 16: 50
      0
      Let them get along. Let me remind you how Donald Cook draped in the Black Sea (by the way, it just could be taken in tow). Or how Americans can’t fly over the whole territory of Syria.
  12. Vyacheslav Anosov
    Vyacheslav Anosov 25 January 2018 10: 55
    0
    Quote: just EXPL
    it is already an atomic weapon, in addition, if modern means, and even old means are not modern, even made it possible to hear a torpedo, then they’ll definitely hear the status6.

    Well heard ...... it became easier? And then defend yourself! only drap ... and actually draping will not help!
    Water Waves Generated by Underwater Explosions (Bernard Le Mehaute, Shen Wang, Rosenstie School of Marine & Atmospheric Science 4600 Richenbacker Causeway Miami, FL 33149) provides a table of wave heights for nuclear explosions of different strengths and at different distances from the point of explosion. So, for an underwater explosion with a power of 100 Mt, the wave height at different distances from the epicenter will be:

    d = 9,25 km, - 202 ... 457 m;
    d = 18,5 km, - 101 ... 228 m;
    d = 92,5 km, - 20 ... 46 m;
    d = 185 km, - 10,1 ... 22 m;
    d = 925 km, - 2,0 ... 4,6 m.
    1. Anatoly R
      Anatoly R 25 January 2018 16: 57
      0
      Wonderful. But what about the resonant synergetic explosion?
      1. Anatoly R
        Anatoly R 25 January 2018 17: 02
        0
        And that is not all. There is a volcano Yellow Stone, which is much worse than bombs of 500 megatons.
        1. Nikolai Passerby
          Nikolai Passerby 25 January 2018 21: 13
          0
          Quote: Anatoly R
          And that is not all.

          Are you there, orderlies admit to the Internet?! ...
        2. Anatoly R
          Anatoly R 21 March 2018 16: 42
          0
          Quote: Anatoly R
          And that is not all. There is a volcano Yellow Stone, which is much worse than bombs of 500 megatons.

          Read a little: Doctor of Geological and Mineralogical Sciences, leading employee of IGEM RAS Anatoly KHRENOV.
          And yet, the opinion of our military - falling on the territory of the volcano of two of our missiles will lead to a continental disaster.
      2. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 25 January 2018 17: 08
        +1
        Quote: Anatoly R
        Wonderful. But what about the resonant synergetic explosion?

        No way. Science has not proven that this is possible. The theory must be confirmed by practice. But with this, in any way.
        1. Anatoly R
          Anatoly R 29 March 2018 22: 48
          0
          Vkd dvk
          As for resonance - how about one meter armor breaks so easily?
          1. Vkd dvk
            Vkd dvk 29 March 2018 23: 23
            0
            Quote: Anatoly R
            Vkd dvk
            As for resonance - how about one meter armor breaks so easily?

            Do you understand anything in the theory of shock, an absolutely rigid body, does the resonance depend only on one sledgehammer, which is struck by something there? Sculpt humpback, scare others with crap near-scientific. Apparently, he was fed up with wacking himself up.
  13. Nikolai Passerby
    Nikolai Passerby 25 January 2018 12: 33
    0
    Genry,
    Kasatik you have a search engine. Available material is enough even for the general public. Here's a snap, then find it yourself, if you wish. It’s not necessary to lull and ride on the couch ... https://vpk-news.ru/articles/17631 I’ll add from myself that to destroy only one AUG, a simultaneous and combined attack of aviation, surface and submarine forces, for example the Pacific fleet. But organizing such an attack is harder than saying it. And amers have 11 such AUGs. If it is possible to disable at least one AUG by the forces of the same current Pacific Fleet, then nothing will remain of it at the same time. That's all ... Learn the material part, do not jump like Ukrainians with patriotic screams.
    1. Anatoly R
      Anatoly R 29 March 2018 21: 44
      0
      Nikolai Passerby
      Learn the materiel of US military doctrine. Before writing anything.
      And think a little more about why DONALD COOK so suddenly draped from the Black Sea.
    2. Anatoly R
      Anatoly R 29 March 2018 22: 37
      0
      Nikolai Passerby
      As Preobrazhensky said - read less on Wikipedia in the morning.
  14. Anatoly R
    Anatoly R 29 March 2018 22: 31
    0
    Genry,
    This PASSENGER apparently in the military commissariat was engaged in the design of nuts, he read Wikipedia. And as he writes, you will read it.