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Admiral: equipping cruisers with Zircon missiles will take no more than six months

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If such a decision is made, the installation on heavy cruisers of complexes with cruise missiles "Zircon" will take no more than six months, leads RIA News opinion of the former Baltic commander fleet (2001-2006) Admiral Vladimir Valuev.


Admiral: equipping cruisers with Zircon missiles will take no more than six months


As previously reported by the German newspaper Stern, the Zirkon ship-based missile system being developed in Russia will pose a real threat to American aircraft carriers. The author reports on the plans of the Russian leadership to deploy the Admiral Nakhimov and Peter the Great nuclear C-500 missile cruisers, the Caliber cruise missiles and the Zircon 3М22 cruise missiles, which are six times faster than the speed of sound and hit targets at a range of about 600 km.

Equipping heavy nuclear missile cruisers with new weaponsif such a decision is made, it will take no more than six months,
said Valuev agency.

According to him, the speed of Mach 2,5 is the limit for a modern anti-aircraft defense of a potential enemy.

If the velocity of the strike cruise missile is higher, the air defense weapons become slow moving compared to it. Anti-ship "Zircon" will easily reach the goal, ahead of air defense weapons,
noted the admiral.

According to him, "this will be a great achievement of the national rocket science."

Rocket weapons with speed 5 Mach will be unattainable for any potential enemy,
stressed Valuev.

He believes that “if the German forecast has a basis, then new surface and submarine ships will be built for the manufactured new missile weapons, as well as the existing Russian Navy will be converted”.

The agency reminds that the rocket complex with Zircon is the latest development of Russian designers. Its creation is engaged in "NPO mechanical engineering". Works on the project are secret. It is known only that the rocket will be able to accelerate to 5-10 Mach and hit targets at distances 300-500 kilometers.
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RIA Novosti / Oleg Lastochkin
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 16 January 2018 11: 48 New
    +5
    Pray later if that. laughing
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 16 January 2018 11: 50 New
      0
      So, if it is impossible to intercept RCC in the future, do you need to book ships again? belay
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 16 January 2018 11: 56 New
        +6
        If there is a carrier with TPK and a serial rocket in stock, the installation is generally measured in hours laughing
      2. Going
        Going 16 January 2018 11: 57 New
        17
        Admiral: equipping cruisers with Zircon missiles will take no more than six months


        First you need to make them.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 16 January 2018 12: 23 New
          +6
          Well, for now, there’s nothing to share in the skin of a dead bear ...
          1. Going
            Going 16 January 2018 12: 32 New
            +6
            The admirals of medals, stars want and this is normal, but it is necessary to work.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 16 January 2018 12: 34 New
              +5
              It is necessary, but you want to get beautiful tsatski without doing anything.
              1. Going
                Going 16 January 2018 12: 52 New
                +6
                That's why we have the construction and repair deadlines shifting to the right.
                1. RL
                  RL 16 January 2018 12: 56 New
                  +4
                  Take the admiral's word.
                  Maybe the conscience of some will wake up and officer honor and resignation will begin to be filed
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 16 January 2018 13: 12 New
                    +7
                    Robert hi Where there are large stars on uniform - honor is replaced by wealth. Not always and not at all, of course, but this is the case ...
                  2. Alex777
                    Alex777 16 January 2018 14: 54 New
                    +5
                    Specifically, this one is already retired. hi
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 16 January 2018 14: 53 New
          +2
          First you need to test, then produce in commercial quantities, and not 50 pcs per year, then you can talk about something. Something middle-aged admiral was chosen for this statement. hi
      3. PSih2097
        PSih2097 16 January 2018 12: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: marlin1203
        So, if it is impossible to intercept RCC in the future, do you need to book ships again? belay

        no, they will again commission their four battleships of the Iowa type ... laughing
        1. Monos
          Monos 16 January 2018 14: 13 New
          +4
          If the Zircons can also fly in packs like the P-700, then this will be a plague! Such a flock can only be stopped by undermining a nuclear charge.
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon 16 January 2018 12: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: marlin1203
        So, if it is impossible to intercept RCC in the future, do you need to book ships again? belay

        Let the striped turnips scratch where to put their aircraft carriers. And then, you see, they want to send them to the Sea of ​​Azov.
      5. leshiy076
        leshiy076 16 January 2018 14: 13 New
        +2
        Ask Oleg Kaptsov.
      6. Captain45
        Captain45 16 January 2018 15: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: marlin1203
        So, if it’s impossible to intercept RCC in the future, do you need to book ships again?

        And this should be consulted with Oleg Kaptsov. He is fully in the know. lol By the way, for a long time there were no articles from him.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 16 January 2018 13: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Pray later if that. laughing

      they don’t have time to pray ... only to urinate ...
  2. 100502
    100502 16 January 2018 11: 49 New
    +6
    Fantasy again
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  4. flicker
    flicker 16 January 2018 11: 58 New
    +4
    Zircon missile system will pose a real threat to American aircraft carriers.

    Nothing, floating restaurants will make aircraft carriers; in short, they will find peaceful use for them. winked
  5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 January 2018 11: 59 New
    23
    And now we believe it is real - Nakhimov will be released at best in 2021, after which Peter will get on for repairs, and will be released at best in years through 5. In its current state, naturally, no zircon can be found in Granite launchers.
    What I like about our admirals - they have only six months to 2026
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 January 2018 12: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      And now we believe it is real - Nakhimov will be released at best in 2021, after which Peter will get on for repairs, and will be released at best in years through 5. In its current state, naturally, no zircon can be found in Granite launchers.
      What I like about our admirals - they have only six months to 2026

      It is planned to place the Zircons not only on these two ships, but also on the submarines and coastal Bastions. And then maybe it comes to aviation.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 January 2018 13: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: Piramidon
        Planned placement of "Zircons" not only on these two ships, but also on the submarine and coastal "Bastions"

        Well, yes, on all seven Ashes. But on the bastions - no, because coast-based missiles with such a range are prohibited
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 16 January 2018 13: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          But on the bastions - no, because coast-based missiles with such a range are prohibited

          Accurate performance characteristics are not yet available, but the distance to 500 km is indicated in open sources. So it fits perfectly into the INF Treaty.
          https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201704190758
          -jawj.htm
          1. misti1973
            misti1973 16 January 2018 23: 05 New
            0
            There will be no more 500 km. You won’t get enough fuel at such a speed. And they need to shove it into a universal container. That is, the size limit.
        2. misti1973
          misti1973 16 January 2018 23: 02 New
          +1
          How is it in Russian: to place non-existent missiles on unfinished boats
  6. Strips
    Strips 16 January 2018 12: 14 New
    +2
    If the velocity of the strike cruise missile is higher, the air defense weapons become slow moving compared to it. Anti-ship "Zircon" will easily reach the goal, ahead of air defense weapons,


    Yes, but they are going to meet.
    If the Zircon speed is 2 km / s with the distance 500 km when it is detected, I believe that the air defense systems will have time to react.

    The speed of the anti-missile should not equal or be greater than the enemy’s missile.
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 16 January 2018 13: 21 New
      +1
      As far as I understood from the one published earlier, the air defense is experiencing problems with detecting objects at such speeds. In addition, they wrote that Zircon is able to maneuver.
      1. ZVO
        ZVO 16 January 2018 15: 15 New
        +4
        Quote: Hagalaz
        In addition, they wrote that Zircon is able to maneuver.


        Google, about the maneuvers on the Hypersound ...
        Well, just for personal self-education, so that later you wouldn’t write nonsense ..
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 16 January 2018 16: 13 New
          +2
          No, well, maybe zircon will make a slide in front of the target, this is also a maneuver laughing although I don’t understand how the designers will be able to solve the problem of overloading on super sound. and who will give the target designation. There are still many questions with this zircon, but there are no answers.
          1. misti1973
            misti1973 16 January 2018 23: 08 New
            0
            Target designation will issue any aircraft. When approaching ARLGSN.
            1. ZVO
              ZVO 18 January 2018 13: 53 New
              0
              Quote: misti1973
              Target designation will issue any aircraft. When approaching ARLGSN.


              And where does the plane come from in the air defense range of the target?
              What is ARLGSN in Hypersound?
        2. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 16 January 2018 17: 34 New
          +4
          I drank about what I read with my own eyes, and I’m not driving a gag. It goes without saying that hypersonic maneuvers are not maneuvers with demonstrative aerobatics in airplanes. As with modern ballistic and anti-ship missile warheads. Any any change in the flight path is a maneuver. The question is the degree and intensity of this maneuver. You might understand that not only you know about the risks of hypersonic maneuvering. In fact, no one here knows about the real opportunities that were / have not been achieved, neither you nor I nor Google.
          1. misti1973
            misti1973 16 January 2018 22: 55 New
            0
            The heads of ballistic missiles do not maneuver. And all talk about hypersonic maneuvers is just talk, for prototypes confidently demonstrate only direct flight so far. (If it were the other way around, they would already go into series) And so, overloads of the order of 50g can reach! Or maybe more.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 17 January 2018 10: 32 New
              0
              Quote: misti1973
              Ballistic missile heads do not maneuver.

              In general, the Zircon is classified as a cruise (aerodynamic) rocket.
        3. bk316
          bk316 16 January 2018 18: 38 New
          +1
          Google, about the maneuvers on the Hypersound ...

          Oh yes you are a specialist, well then let's first define the terms.
          What do you mean by maneuver?
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 16 January 2018 19: 33 New
            0
            Quote: bk316
            Google, about the maneuvers on the Hypersound ...

            Oh yes you are a specialist, well then let's first define the terms.
            What do you mean by maneuver?


            OK. For a missile having the task of defeating a surface ship equipped with active missile defense systems - maneuvering means only one thing - performing anti-aircraft maneuvers ...
            There are no other maneuvering options as an object worthy of mention in anti-ship missiles in modern conditions.
            so clearer?
      2. Shahno
        Shahno 16 January 2018 19: 47 New
        0
        Here in general. Any type of PCR such as zircon will be able to move near the ground 5 max max for today (if more than a few seconds). If he wants to maneuver, he will have to reduce the speed to 3max. And this is no longer a problem for sm-6 ...
    2. bk316
      bk316 16 January 2018 18: 36 New
      +1
      I believe that air defense systems will have time to react.

      You can assume anything, but each air defense system claims the maximum speed of the intercepted aerodynamic target. Do not bother to name the system for which this parameter is 5M?
      1. ZVO
        ZVO 16 January 2018 19: 37 New
        0
        Take the trouble to name a really existing rocket model, which is in service with any country in the world at a speed of 5M ...
        1. misti1973
          misti1973 16 January 2018 22: 46 New
          0
          Yes, even on the ground! In, people, they themselves do not cut the hammer
  7. Monarchist
    Monarchist 16 January 2018 12: 16 New
    +3
    For some reason, it seems to me that the submarine is certainly good, but 1 AQUATED ships of rank are also NECESSARY. And we only have 2 heavy cruisers available :( Lazarev in limbo). Planned to build: "Leaders", but deeply, with the "Gorshkovs" are also not so hot. Even with the "Tallavere" only 3 in the ranks. And as it would be gorgeous: “Zircon” on the cruiser, and “caliber” on the frigates of the sea zone.
    I don’t know how anyone, but I have some romantic notes that cause the names: Frigate, Corvette, and if you add Brig
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 16 January 2018 17: 37 New
      0
      Stanyukovich was revered?))
    2. misti1973
      misti1973 16 January 2018 22: 43 New
      0
      Leaders? Yes, they only exist as a model for the exhibition. So you can even plan hyper-powered starships.
    3. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 17 January 2018 02: 20 New
      +3
      We had transmitters: Brig, Corvette, Bark. The frigate was preparing for release, but did not have time ....
  8. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 16 January 2018 12: 17 New
    +2
    ... He believes that "if the German forecast is justified, then new surface and submarine ships will be built for the manufactured new missile weapons, as well as those that are already in the Russian Navy" ...

    Somewhat strange phrase, for a person directly in the "topic"
    Based on German forecasts, in the field of armament ???
    1. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 16 January 2018 21: 22 New
      +1
      A person has probably been 10 years as a retired, which "in the subject" can be talked about.
      RIA Novosti quotes the opinion of the former commander of the Baltic Fleet (2001-2006) Admiral Vladimir Valuev.
  9. PPD
    PPD 16 January 2018 12: 18 New
    11
    No rockets yet. Nothing even flies.
    But it’s already known for sure that it’s exactly six months, and not a week more.
    Although if the Germans in the newspaper said something for sure. You can be happy. fool
    Why do I need Admiral Valuev, I can read a newspaper without him.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 January 2018 16: 38 New
      +1
      There are no photos.
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 16 January 2018 17: 47 New
      0
      Do not judge strictly. I think the general meant that installing a ready-made and tested system on a ship is only a matter of technology and will not take much time.
      In addition, we must imply that there is an information war and what purpose this or that concealment actually pursues, we may not even guess. but maybe PR.
  10. klas000000
    klas000000 16 January 2018 12: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: PPD
    No rockets yet. Nothing even flies.
    But it’s already known for sure that it’s exactly six months, and not a week more.
    Although if the Germans in the newspaper said something for sure. You can be happy. fool
    Why do I need Admiral Valuev, I can read a newspaper without him.


    Where does this information come from? Do you have your own people at an NPO that can be said so categorically for rockets?
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 16 January 2018 15: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: klas000000

      Where does this information come from? Do you have your own people at an NPO that can be said so categorically for rockets?


      Because. that they are not there.
      If you are so illiterate that you are unable to deal with the public procurement system, then do not let the dust of secrecy ...
      The same government order openly calls Zircon - just a modernization of Onyx.
      Therefore, do not expect any wunderwaffles in zircon ... Onyx modernization.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 January 2018 16: 41 New
        +1
        This is what I believe. Then the confidence of the admirals is clear.
  11. Strips
    Strips 16 January 2018 12: 40 New
    +1
    According to him, the speed of Mach 2,5 is the limit for a modern anti-aircraft defense of a potential enemy.


    And what to do with the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (SM-3) is an American anti-aircraft guided missile of the Standard family. It is in service with the U.S. Navy, mounted on cruisers, destroyers or in the form of ground installations

    Its latest versions (part in development):

    3 km / s (Mach 10.2) Block IA / B
    4.5 km / s (Mach 15.25) Block IIA



    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 January 2018 13: 13 New
      +9
      Quote: Tiras
      What to do with RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (SM-3)

      Nothing. This missile is NOT INTENDED for intercepting targets in the atmosphere. And he cannot do this even in principle.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 January 2018 16: 46 New
        +1
        Not SM-3, but Standart SM-6
        1. bk316
          bk316 16 January 2018 18: 48 New
          +1
          Not SM-3, but Standart SM-6

          And what was announced somewhere about the interception of the SM-6 five-swing targets?
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 16 January 2018 19: 53 New
            0
            Somewhere I found a report on target interception on 4x max.
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 January 2018 23: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          and Standart SM-6

          And what is wrong with her? :)))) You can discuss the capabilities of SM-6, but still it would not hurt to know at least something about Zircon
    2. bk316
      bk316 16 January 2018 18: 43 New
      +1
      What to do with RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (SM-3)

      Yes, you are not just off topic, but also inattentive.
      Look carefully at your picture, there are indicated the types of intercepted targets.
      Does the word Ballistic tell you anything?
  12. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 16 January 2018 12: 46 New
    +1
    Yeah, a new headache in the USA. If only we can pull the economy to the right level so that we can rely on our self-sufficiency in the main areas of management. If we have only the army and navy are friends, then we need to comply with them.
  13. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 16 January 2018 13: 19 New
    0
    2,5 Mach speed is the limit for modern air defense systems of a potential enemy

    Why is that? At a meeting what is the problem to intercept? If in catch, then yes
  14. lukewarm
    lukewarm 16 January 2018 13: 20 New
    0
    Six months - in ideal conditions. And this is just a refit. No matter how loading ... laughing And since we have all the terms “shifted to the right” (it became a meme) because of the excellent funding, and how many of those “Zircons”?
  15. Grits
    Grits 16 January 2018 13: 51 New
    +1
    It is a pity that our Pacific “Lazarev” will not feel these “Zircons” on itself. Such a cruiser disappears ... For me, Petya could have waited for several years, but Lazerev urgently needs repairs, otherwise it will rot completely.
  16. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 16 January 2018 14: 43 New
    +2
    At 500 km. still need to get closer. when in the air AWACS and the radius of carrier-based aircraft 1000 km. It is better to equip Zircons with submarines, volley and look for winds in the sea.
  17. Old26
    Old26 16 January 2018 14: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: _Jack_
    2,5 Mach speed is the limit for modern air defense systems of a potential enemy

    Why is that? At a meeting what is the problem to intercept? If in catch, then yes

    And what, the American Standart SM-2ER rockets, the Admiral canceled Standart SM-6 by his order? But the former has 3M speed, the latter has 3,5М.
  18. Bronevick
    Bronevick 16 January 2018 16: 52 New
    0
    The zircon scare turned out to be very successful.
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 16 January 2018 17: 56 New
    +1
    enough to bother, first complete at least one vessel, then a dozen, and then ring sober ...
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 16 January 2018 22: 30 New
      0
      Everything has its time, about the “Caliber” to the Caspian salvo, too, there was only a chatter ... wink
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 17 January 2018 00: 13 New
        +1
        Caliber - long-range operable subsonic missile launcher, similar to Tomogavk.
        There are no breakthrough technologies in it.
  20. klas000000
    klas000000 16 January 2018 18: 29 New
    0
    Quote: ZVO
    Quote: klas000000

    Where does this information come from? Do you have your own people at an NPO that can be said so categorically for rockets?


    Because. that they are not there.
    If you are so illiterate that you are unable to deal with the public procurement system, then do not let the dust of secrecy ...
    The same government order openly calls Zircon - just a modernization of Onyx.
    Therefore, do not expect any wunderwaffles in zircon ... Onyx modernization.


    Sorry That I contacted such grateful specialists in public procurement, where we are easy.
  21. misti1973
    misti1973 16 January 2018 22: 37 New
    0
    Yes, where is this Zircon? They also do not sleep there, and they have more money.
  22. jonht
    jonht 17 January 2018 06: 19 New
    0
    Only the naive are sure that everything is published in the open part in the public procurement system .... wassat
    In fact, there is still a closed part, and nobody canceled the features of the procurement of new and promising samples, do not be naive in the structure of public procurements. They will not write. Zircon will have a code, for example, 3M ** or a longer serial number ..... laughing
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 17 January 2018 12: 21 New
      0
      Hello!! What is so hot, There are already interesting orders for the Russian Armed Forces, the new rocket fuel has flickered here, So there are shifts and what product it is ordered for,
      1. jonht
        jonht 18 January 2018 00: 02 New
        0
        Yes, I’m not getting excited, I just got a nagging, on facts allegedly sucked from my finger ....
        Recently, various commentators have divorced with the slogans: "everyone merged," "there is nothing," etc.
        And we live poorly, and censorship and corruption and many more And ... wassat
        You can only think of all this only in our country, and so everywhere is "Heavenly Heaven."
        I would like to return the practice of the USSR and expel all dissidents to Kh., Where, in their opinion, Paradise, do not fig them in our “Hell”, let them build martyrs out of themselves.