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APU will prepare the operators of American ATGM Javelin abroad

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According to the Ukrainian military portal Ukrainian Military Pages, in the Ukrainian Armed Forces begin preparing the calculations of anti-tank missile systems (ATGW) Javelin. According to the publication, the main stage of the training of operators for the US ATGM will be held outside Ukraine


APU will prepare the operators of American ATGM Javelin abroad


The publication writes that the training of candidates will begin on January 15 on the basis of the National Academy of the Army named after Hetman Sagaidachny. There, applicants will take courses in English, the combat use of anti-tank systems, the military will be taught abroad.

Recall that previously it was reported about the US plans to deliver 35 launchers for Javelin and 210 missiles to them in Ukraine. Also earlier, the Ukrainian media voiced information on the supply of the Ukrainian Armed Forces instead of the ATGM Javelin ATGM TOW

Russia has repeatedly warned against plans to ensure Ukraine weapons, because this step will only lead to an escalation of the conflict in the Donbass. Most European politicians spoke against supplies.
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  1. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 12 January 2018 16: 24 New
    +2
    Are the javelins still not for sale? And, with more expensive calculations, that’s the whole point.
    1. opus
      opus 12 January 2018 16: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: iliitch
      And aren't Javelins yet for sale


      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 12 January 2018 16: 47 New
        +1
        the stage of training operators for the American ATGM will be held outside Ukraine

        Khokhlov, who can’t wait to get mattresses for women in the IG, will be sent to study. And they will fight there, under black flags. Meat am
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 12 January 2018 16: 52 New
          +2
          Russia has repeatedly warned against plans to provide Ukraine with weapons, since this step will only lead to an escalation of the conflict in the Donbass. Most European politicians spoke out against supplies.
          stop When it’s a colonizer - all the more so beyond the puddle, like the USA - I listened opposing the opinion of native politicians from their colonies? No. Yes, never in history has this happened! Moreover, if the case was decided on a proxy war on foreign territory in the interests of the colonizer.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 12 January 2018 16: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir16
            the stage of training operators for the American ATGM will be held outside Ukraine

            Khokhlov, who can’t wait to get mattresses for women in the IG, will be sent to study. And they will fight there, under black flags. Meat am
            By the way, Vladimir, I also thought the same thing. That sabotage practice these VSUshniki will take place precisely in Syria against the Russian Aerospace Forces and the SAR.
          2. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 12 January 2018 17: 00 New
            +2
            Tanya, hello, with the past and upcoming Old New Year! love love love
            It's as simple as a lowing: the mattresses will train the Javelin ATGM calculations, and they will give the TOW ATGM. And at whose expense will retraining be, huh? wink Like the initial training? lol "This is our cow - we milk it!" (from)
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 12 January 2018 17: 14 New
              +1
              Happy New Year, Pavel! drinks I wish you happiness and a peaceful life! yes
              Quote: bouncyhunter

              And at whose expense will retraining be, huh? wink Like the initial training? lol "This is our cow - we milk it!" (from)

              Yes, Ukraine is already in debt all without it, like silk! crying
              Ukraine is a foreign-fed bankrupt country, like a dog in a booth of an evil owner on a chain.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 12 January 2018 17: 49 New
                +2
                Thank you very much, Tanya! love

                Quote: Tatiana
                Ukraine is a foreign-fed bankrupt country, like a dog in a booth of an evil owner on a chain.

                That's just a toothless dog, because the owner does not pay attention to it ...
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 12 January 2018 23: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir16
          the stage of training operators for the American ATGM will be held outside Ukraine

          Khokhlov, who can’t wait to get mattresses for women in the IG, will be sent to study. And they will fight there, under black flags. Meat am

          Well, why post such nonsense? Ukrainian soldiers are no worse than Russian ones. Strelkova has this opinion. And he, with all the minuses, still knows what he is talking about.
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      1. Thrall
        Thrall 12 January 2018 16: 43 New
        +5
        Quote: iliitch
        Are the javelins still not for sale?

    3. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 12 January 2018 16: 48 New
      +1
      Previously, they had a cartoon - the EU. Rode
      Then they had a cartoon - against Russia the whole world. Also did not grow together
      Now, these javelins rush around, as if they were not enough for victory)
  2. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 12 January 2018 16: 27 New
    +8
    Yesterday there was news that no one would give them Jewels, push the old tou, push the jumpers as always, even if they are preparing pilots for the F-35 and raptors and recruiting for the aircraft carrier
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 12 January 2018 16: 31 New
      +8
      What are you, it’s for them how to fly into space, we will be envious.
    2. Vanin
      Vanin 12 January 2018 16: 35 New
      +5
      Quote: Warrior-80
      let then pilots for the F-35 and raptors are trained

      wassat wassat Bravo made fun, a great joke ...!
    3. Professor
      Professor 12 January 2018 17: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: Warrior-80
      Yesterday there was news that no one would give them Jewels, push the old tou, push the jumpers as always, even if they are preparing pilots for the F-35 and raptors and recruiting for the aircraft carrier

      1. TOU is also not cheap.
      2. Old TOU is no longer in nature.
      3. The Kurds were given Javelins ...
      1. Warrior-80
        Warrior-80 12 January 2018 20: 25 New
        0
        1) old tou relatively cheap
        2) you are aware of what is being stored in the warehouses of US defense mines, with us I know more tarters can be found
        3) what Kurds can do, dill not, otherwise we also have something to put
        1. Professor
          Professor 13 January 2018 10: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Warrior-80
          1) old tou relatively cheap

          $ 12 000 in prices of the 1984 of the year. Cheap?

          Quote: Warrior-80
          2) you are aware of what is being stored in the warehouses of US defense mines, with us I know more tarters can be found

          Shelf life of TOU is only 5 years. Trying to extend to 10 years. A missile that has exceeded its shelf life is disposed of and not delivered to anyone.
          http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=ADA329324

          Quote: Warrior-80
          3) what Kurds can do, dill not, otherwise we also have something to put

          Dill? I don’t know those. In Ukraine, the level of education is not comparable higher than in Kurdistan.
  3. svp67
    svp67 12 January 2018 16: 28 New
    +1
    According to the publication, the main stage of the training of operators for the American ATGM will be held outside Ukraine
    Let me try to guess the place of preparation. It will be in Georgia, where they will cook with Ukrainians and Georgians
    1. Magic archer
      Magic archer 12 January 2018 16: 31 New
      +3
      I also think either in Georgia or in the Baltic states.
      1. svp67
        svp67 12 January 2018 16: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Magic Archer
        I also think either in Georgia or in the Baltic states.

        By the way, maybe the Baltic states, but they will teach together ...
    2. birs
      birs 13 January 2018 05: 37 New
      +1
      It is possible that the training site will be Miami, and the operators of the ATGMs will be Poroshenko Jr., Groysman Jr., Avakov Jr. and the like.
  4. Zomanus
    Zomanus 12 January 2018 16: 30 New
    0
    Interesting news ...
    It’s possible that large-scale systems will not come into service with the Armed Forces
    but single use as part of the RDG is possible.
    Moreover, not against the republics, but against the Russian Federation.
    So I wouldn’t laugh very much here.
    1. mihey
      mihey 12 January 2018 17: 03 New
      0
      RDG? I doubt, maybe BTG?
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 12 January 2018 16: 33 New
    +5
    We’ll put some kind of circus, but we won’t give it, we will keep it in Yavorovo under our guard, we will train abroad, first we will teach how to spill candidates. The question arises - will there be a boy? In the Donbass, waiting for samples to study "temikogotamnet"
    1. alstr
      alstr 12 January 2018 17: 19 New
      +1
      I recall two things about this:
      1. Americans love to sell weapons, but keep them at home (this is about Taiwan)
      2. Anecdote about learning English:
      Before the Olympiad 80 there is an English lesson at the Kiev police.
      Sergeant leads a lesson:
      - Private Petrenko. How do you do?
      - WHAT?
      - Sit 3
      - Private Necheporenko. How do you do?
      - WHAT?
      - Sit 3.

      and so on

      - Private Ivanov. How do you do?
      - Ai m fayn.
      - What?
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 12 January 2018 16: 37 New
    +1
    And then we will prepare for Chrysanthemum operators in Donetsk and Lugansk! soldier Although, there’s no sense in limiting ourselves to this alone - the help will be extensive if the javelins emerge from the ukraine.
  7. shans2
    shans2 12 January 2018 16: 41 New
    0
    Ukrosmi will feed their lokhs with this fake for another six months) the USA will not even give TOU, because these TOU will be in Afghanistan and will burn the Americans ... or in another place ...
  8. bald
    bald 12 January 2018 17: 02 New
    0
    And what to study there - pour yes drink. After studying, they will become masters, damn it.
  9. Professor
    Professor 12 January 2018 17: 12 New
    +4
    APU will prepare the operators of American ATGM Javelin abroad

    Preparation is divided into 5 stages:
    1. Initial training.
    2. Professional skills training
    3. Collective training.
    4. Combat training at bilateral military exercises
    5. Command Training

    Total 10 days (80 hours)

    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 12 January 2018 18: 54 New
      +3
      The main risks of the Americans in the situation of the supply of "Javelins" to Ukraine are "loss" or "resale". This program does not minimize these risks. Therefore, I think that only the implantation of a chip that launches the operator’s self-liquidation in the event of a "loss" of weapons can help Americans solve this problem. lol

      Ps: but implantation is an additional cost ...
      1. Professor
        Professor 13 January 2018 10: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: BMP-2
        The main risks of the Americans in the situation of the supply of "Javelins" to Ukraine are "loss" or "resale". This program does not minimize these risks. Therefore, I think that only the implantation of a chip that launches the operator’s self-liquidation in the event of a "loss" of weapons can help Americans solve this problem. lol

        Ps: but implantation is an additional cost ...

        There is nothing secret in the design of Javelin. Absolutely nothing. Nobody is going to transfer technology.

        Quote: Warrior-80
        I would argue with you that the next five years there will be no official Jewels in Ukraine, they will not go to the United States, this will mean the beginning of a hot, cold war, that is, without rules

        Yeah. Will the third world start because of this? It’s just that your Foreign Ministry will express concern and that’s it.

        Quote: Vadim Golubkov
        Total 10 days (80 hours) Do you believe? The Israeli army is taught 10 days of ATGMs, guns, aphthoms ... normal .... for 3 days

        I posted the timetable for you, and you "believe", "do not believe".
    2. Warrior-80
      Warrior-80 12 January 2018 20: 30 New
      0
      I would argue with you that the next five years there will be no official Jewels in Ukraine, they will not go to the United States, this will mean the beginning of a hot, cold war, that is, without rules
    3. Vadim Golubkov
      Vadim Golubkov 12 January 2018 23: 25 New
      0
      Do you believe what you wrote?
    4. Vadim Golubkov
      Vadim Golubkov 12 January 2018 23: 29 New
      0
      Total 10 days (80 hours) Do you believe? The Israeli army is taught 10 days of ATGMs, guns, aphthoms ... normal .... for 3 days
  10. Dormidont
    Dormidont 12 January 2018 17: 37 New
    +1
    Operators will train abroad. And die in the Donbass.
  11. poplar in Kiev
    poplar in Kiev 12 January 2018 19: 10 New
    +1
    Patriots can laugh and write odes to Kremlin boars, but the facts suggest otherwise. In a modern war, anti-tank systems can already be safely called a universal missile system. A bunch of examples and videos where sniper, artillery, hail, machine gun and sniper points are destroyed from anti-tank systems. Very serious weapon.
    And believe me, the fighter on the frontline doesn't give a damn about how much such a weapon costs.
    Well, APU has long had an advantage in ATGMs and in sniper systems and in mortars ..
  12. poplar in Kiev
    poplar in Kiev 12 January 2018 19: 13 New
    -1
    Russia overslept the moment of improvement of RPG-7. Now mattress grenade launchers are more powerful, more accurate and long-range.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 12 January 2018 19: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: poplar in Kiev
      Russia overslept the moment of improvement of RPG-7. Now mattress grenade launchers are more powerful, more accurate and long-range.

      You write nonsense, our "Cornet" is cheaper and more effective than "javelina"
      And do not confuse hand grenade launchers with anti-tank systems.
      By the way, the Americans copy our RPG-7 grenade launcher under the name Airtronic USA Mk.777 and successfully sell it.
  13. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 12 January 2018 23: 23 New
    0
    USSR (Russia) ATGM. RPG, no? USA?
  14. Antares
    Antares 13 January 2018 00: 38 New
    0
    an interesting move, initially I thought the Yavorovsky military training ground, but it’s even better that way.
  15. LeonidL
    LeonidL 14 January 2018 01: 57 New
    0
    Only abroad !!! If in Ukraine - even if they’re not chained to the bedside table, they will not save them - they will communize, sorry, they will sander on the first day of education and training!