Rosgvardiya began large-scale reform of special forces

The large-scale reform of special forces units of the Federal Service of National Guard troops (FSVNG, Rosgvardia) involves the unification of special rapid reaction units (SOBR), special police units (OMON), separate reconnaissance units (ORO) and special purpose units (OSPN, special forces) in the management of forces special purpose (USPN) Rosgvardii, reported "Izvestia"

New departments will be organized on a territorial basis and will be responsible for certain regions of the country. USPN will be closed directly to the leadership of the Russian Guard, or rather, to the Main Directorate of the Special Forces of the FSVNG, formed last spring. In addition to power units, it is planned to include in USPN Aviation: special squadrons that were previously transferred to the department from the Ministry of Internal Affairs

- it is said in the publication with reference to the department.

It is noted that the reform is already underway: the first experimental UspN of the Rosguard, which is located on the territory of the operational division named after Dzerzhinsky, has been created in the Moscow region. The new structure includes SOBR from Dolgoprudny and OMON units stationed in Schelkovo, Sergiev Posad, and Podolsk. The Rosguards confirmed the creation of a new center, but refused to comment further.

It is specified that the second UspN will appear in Pyatigorsk already this year. It will include the 17 squadron of the Special Forces, parts of the 98 Special Motorized Regiment and the OMON. From Moscow, the work of such USPNs will be supervised by the Main Directorate of the SSpN of the Rosguards.

The question of the optimal construction of services and subdivisions of the Rosguard, including special purpose departments, is now being discussed. By the end of 2018, it is planned to have four offices, each of which will cover a certain geographic area

- reported in the department

Comments

[A. Privalov]

Who are you going to fight with?

[You Vlad]

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

And with whom, it’s the law-enforcement system of the state of Russia!

[Alexander 3]

With bandits and terrorists.

[Sands Careers General]

It is a matter of uniting the structures of the Russian Guard, and not war.

[allaykbar]

Who are you going to fight with?

probably with the Palestinians

[Siberian]

Quote: allaykbar

probably with the Palestinians

Very thin, plus you

[siberalt]

We’d have time before the election. Navalny and Sobchak are not asleep. Yes, and they are going to raise the retirement age.

[allaykbar]

Here is the Kremlin, everywhere they lower the retirement age, but in Russia they want to raise it.

[the most important]

Quote: siberalt

We’d have time before the election. Navalny and Sobchak are not asleep. Yes, and they are going to raise the retirement age.

Those. Do you think that raising the retirement age is normal, and if you are dissatisfied, then they must be sent by special forces to pacify and explain how the government should be loved ??? Or maybe it's easier and cheaper to disperse a government that always has no money for the people ???

[allaykbar]

Those. Do you think that raising the retirement age is normal

Of course not. and taxes are not normal. They would cancel. And gasoline is not normal for 60 cents. It is necessary for 2.

And I also think that since the allegarchs stole something there, then let the state build a cottage for me and thereby compensate for the fact that they stole from me those whom I have never even seen in my life and who do not know about my existence and that they stole something from me.

I live in a normal country? Why do not they give 1 billion rubles for the birth of a child? I also think it is not the case. I would be the president, I would immediately issue a decree. To each cottage, cancel taxes, reduce the retirement age to 32 years

Still a normal car. But I live in a country rich in resources, where is my car?

And generally speaking. Why work - if there is so much oil. In general, I should have my own benefit from its extraction on the land of the Chukchi and Evenki and the sale to Europe

Sibiralt will agree with me.

Or maybe it's easier and cheaper to disperse a government that always has no money for the people ??

Yes, of course, disperse. There are so many cool and successful examples. Healed the country after the coup.

Kissel flows down the borders. We live here in Russia and envy those who overthrow the government whenever they want.

And in general, why does this government need it at all. Here in America, the cat is the governor. (or who is he there)

PS I wish you to think with your head, and not only eat into it and earn money yourself, and not wait for them from the government.

[allaykbar]

and if they are dissatisfied, then they need to send special forces to pacify and explain how to love the government?

special forces must be sent when the sufferers begin to disrupt order. And so there are always dissatisfied. And they were even in Libya, when they gave several tens of thousands of dollars for the birth of a child, and they hung in public for making fake drugs

So I did not surprise

[StobbeS]

And in Russia there are a lot of beautiful girls, but tr ..... they are mostly oligarchs !!! It is necessary to take away the women from them and distribute to the workers)))))

[astronom1973n]

Directly bulk program!)))))))))

[Chaos]

PS I wish you to think with your head, and not only eat into it and earn money yourself, and not wait for them from the government.
Golden words!

[the most important]

Quote: allaykbar

Or maybe it's easier and cheaper to disperse a government that always has no money for the people ??
Yes, of course, disperse. There are so many cool and successful examples. Healed the country after the coup.

In Italy, governments sometimes change 3 times a year! Is this a coup? No need to pray to the government, for this there is God in heaven for lovers of prayers, and these are just officials. who poorly perform their duties or do not perform at all (Serdyuk and Ulyukaev). What, they had to be kept forever only because they are the government?

[the most important]

Quote: allaykbar

PS I wish you to think with your head, and not only eat into it and earn money yourself, and not wait for them from the government.

The government through inadequate taxes takes only money from me, which I EARN. And the fact that the country in the swamp is the result of the work of the government.

[Dedall]

And you ask Siluanov with his food expenses of 1,7 million rubles per month. All of the treasuries obey him, our orphan, and they fully approved the purchase of award epaulets from crystal and award checkers with daggers for the National Guard. In order to bang some three tens of millions of pensioners, his hand won’t flinch and he should raise his salary. Is there anything you can’t do for yourself?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: siberalt

We’d have time before the election. Navalny and Sobchak are not asleep. Yes, and they are going to raise the retirement age.

judging by the fact that some manage not to gain several years of working experience up to 55 (60) years, you can not raise the retirement age !!!!

[grandson of Perun]

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

With terrorists and armed bandits of course.
Do you have similar units fighting with whom?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Perun's grandson

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

With terrorists and armed bandits of course.
Do you have similar units fighting with whom?

apparently they all live in peace and harmony there, as a result of which the law enforcement system, as such, is absent !!!

[Piramidon]

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

With the same with whom and now. And they’re not going to fight for a long time. Bandits, terrorists and other evil spirits will be enough for them for a long time. And such comments with hidden libero overtones are inappropriate. Or is nothing known in the "promised land" if you ask such questions?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

With the same with whom and now. And they’re not going to fight for a long time. Bandits, terrorists and other evil spirits will be enough for them for a long time. And such comments with hidden libero overtones are inappropriate. Or is nothing known in the "promised land" if you ask such questions?

We have a war - a familiar thing, because the environment is hostile, terrorist attacks are daily, and the army is exactly half of the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops. Is your National Guard, as far as is known in the Promised Land, imprisoned on an internal enemy? You, dear, do not look for subtexts. I ask direct questions. How many internal enemies do you have there and who are they - who are you going to fight with?

[Piramidon]

Quote: A. Privalov

I ask direct questions. How many internal enemies do you have there and who are they - who are you going to fight with?

And I directly answer you that in the Caucasus, for example, they are constantly fighting (and not gathering) with gangs. The Caucasus is also an internal part of Russia.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: A. Privalov

I ask direct questions. How many internal enemies do you have there and who are they - who are you going to fight with?

And I directly answer you that in the Caucasus, for example, they are constantly fighting (and not gathering) with gangs. The Caucasus is also an internal part of Russia.

According to your words, the National Guard is constantly fighting in the Caucasus. Do I understand correctly?

[You Vlad]

Quote: A. Privalov

According to your words, the National Guard is constantly fighting in the Caucasus. Do I understand correctly?

The National Guard will deal primarily with:
protection of civil order in our society;
- the fight against such negative phenomena as terrorism, extremist activities, organized, including ethnic, crime, etc .;
- control of the movement and circulation of firearms in our country;
- protection of important state objects and state cargo;
- the provision of security services for legal entities and individuals, as well as monitoring and control of the security services market.
It is important that the National Guard is not subordinate to regional government officials and representatives of law enforcement agencies, but is led from the center. This "unties the hands" of its units in the regions, allowing you to act without regard to the local leadership in the event of a need for quick and tough actions
This is for your enlightenment, sorry to interrupt your conversation.

[A. Privalov]

Thanks for the clarification, Vlad! Judging by what you wrote, this is something like a hybrid of the special services, special forces and law enforcement services. But "the emergence of the need for quick and tough action" is the counteraction to mass riots?

[You Vlad]

Quote: A. Privalov

Is this counteraction to mass riots?

Including, well, it’s a sin for us to lag behind the United States in this regard, especially when there are all kinds of technologies for manipulating the masses of people! He’s such a people, they believe everything ...
Well, then not to disentangle, I think it's better to prevent it.

[Pivasik]

Why not

[Chaos]

as well as monitoring and control of the security services market.
Well, why is this necessary?

[Piramidon]

Quote: A. Privalov

According to your words, the National Guard is constantly fighting in the Caucasus. Do I understand correctly?

If you are interested in the state of affairs in the Caucasus region, you should see that clashes are constantly taking place there. Some stubborn verbiage comes from you and you try to prove to us, the inhabitants of Russia, that we do not need the Russian Guard. Take care of your internal Israeli affairs and do not meddle with us.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: A. Privalov

According to your words, the National Guard is constantly fighting in the Caucasus. Do I understand correctly?

If you are interested in the state of affairs in the Caucasus region, you should see that clashes are constantly taking place there. Some stubborn verbiage comes from you and you try to prove to us, the inhabitants of Russia, that we do not need the Russian Guard. Take care of your internal Israeli affairs and do not meddle with us.

1) I am not interested in the situation in the Caucasus region.
2) I received completely intelligible and adequate answers to my questions from a person who understands a question, thanks to him.
3) I regard your attacks on me as street rudeness.
I wish you well.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Piramidon

that there are constantly clashes.

I wouldn’t exaggerate so !! but stripping shortages periodically happen !!!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Piramidon

that there are constantly clashes.

I wouldn’t exaggerate so !! but stripping shortages periodically happen !!!

Yes, I did not try to exaggerate. It just infuriates me when every Israeli troll tries to contribute its 5 shekels to the organization of our internal affairs, which in no way concern it. And after the sarcastic-vigorous question "With whom are you going to fight?" this circumcised man runs into me in the sense that I am a boor.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Piramidon

Yes, I did not try to exaggerate.

anyway, I would not call it a clash ... it is more suitable for a full-scale war !!

[figwam]

Quote: A. Privalov

I ask direct questions. How many internal enemies do you have there and who are they - who are you going to fight with?

I watch foreign citizens here, we began to arrange interrogations.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: A. Privalov

Our war is a familiar thing, because the environment is hostile, terrorist attacks are daily, and the army is exactly half of the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops. Is your National Guard, as far as is known in the Promised Land, imprisoned for an internal enemy?

So we have a war in the UK does not stop. Just call her "counter-terrorist operation". And according to the law, these CTOs must be" vovany "and" faces "- because the army is involved in internal affairs only in the event of the announcement of an emergency regime. And the introduction of this regime is always delayed to the last.
Here is a typical picture fighting the internal enemy from those places:

[Glory1974]

Is your National Guard, as far as is known in the Promised Land, imprisoned on an internal enemy?

Not only. If earlier in the law on the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, it was clearly said about internal enemies. Now the National Guard can be applied anywhere. The law does not prohibit it.

[vlad66]

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

But in the Caucasus and now they are at war with terrorists or the United States and others can have the National Guard, but Russia does not. Strange logic.

[RUSS]

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

Do not fight, but protect and prevent

[marlin1203]

A very wide range of tasks is obtained - from dispersing thieves ’gatherings and assaulting dens, to working with hostages and raids" through the forests. " IMHO fucking will come out.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The Russian Guard - these are internal troops, they have the task of protecting the rule of law in peacetime, and in the military they will be intensely guarding especially important objects from bridges to nuclear power plants and fighting saboteurs ... The fact that they have brought everything together into a single system is excellent ...

[Mikhail Zubkov]

Beat moles, save Russia. To avenge the moles for 1917 ...

[Romario_Argo]

from the beginning Army, Military Police, GAI officers are being reduced, now Rosguard, soon the police will put things in order, so to speak to the "common denominator" (!)

[Million]

As soon as the Rosguard appeared, there is already reform! I think that the next redistribution of cash flows

[rotmistr60]

What does the cash flow have to do with it? If he (the stream) is alone at the Russian Guard.

[Million]

One, but it can become either smaller or larger

[cannabis]

Well, people enjoy cash flow. Let there be flows ..... You sit so thoughtfully on the bank of the cash flow and admire the rifts.

[rotmistr60]

He wrote beautifully, figuratively.

[cannabis]

When I printed, I thought about something else. And there’s no one to share with. Strings are too thin for this instrument.

[RUSS]

Quote: Million

As soon as the Rosguard appeared, there is already reform! I think that the next redistribution of cash flows

On the contrary, there is an optimization

[Million]

But what is “optimization” in Russia?)))) Someone either takes money or gives someone more)

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Million

But what is “optimization” in Russia?)))) Someone either takes money or gives someone more)

In the case of the WG, optimization is the reduction to a common denominator of all the “special forces” WGs that have been inherited. For in addition to their own special forces explosives in the WG, all the special forces of the police were also assembled. And now they are trying to fashion the united forces of the Special Forces of the RG from this hodgepodge.

[g1v2]

I would say. that they are trying to create territorial headquarters of the defense forces in the regions. At the same time, to re-train riot police and sobr forces under the programs of the former centuries. That is, including for military operations. A SOBR for special operations. In my opinion, the matter is quite necessary. Syria and the Caucasus have shown that forces sharpened for military operations on their own territory are needed and must be trained for this.

[Pivasik]

straight to the top ten

[RUSS]

Quote: Million

But what is “optimization” in Russia?)))) Someone either takes money or gives someone more)

In principle, yes, some budget items can be reduced in favor of others; this is world practice in a different way.

[Overlock]

Quote: vlad66

But in the Caucasus and now they are at war with terrorists or the United States and others can have the National Guard, but Russia does not. belay Strange logic.

Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation:
The number of serious crimes in Russia as a whole decreased by 4,7%, especially serious crimes - on the contrary, increased by 7,3%. This indicator has increased significantly in the Karachay-Cherkess Republic (plus 172,6%), the Chechen Republic (plus 167,8%) and North Ossetia (plus 100%).
no results.

[Stas Snezhin]

Special Forces (OMON)

How many years already, as "Squad мобильный special purpose "..

[sub307]

And for how many years these same reforms have been "smoothly" moving from one to the next. So - the "beginning" of reforms is a continuation of reforms. It feels like someone “big” is vitally interested in these endless reforms. As the saying goes, long live the reforms, cheers gentlemen and comrades!

[vnord]

Quote: allaykbar

Here is the Kremlin, everywhere they lower the retirement age, but in Russia they want to raise

Well, where is the retirement age lowered? Old in the studio ..

[MoJloT]

Wow yesterday I read this news in the Hebrew edition)) This is their Russian news published earlier than in Russia itself, bravo, intelligence does not sleep.

[clerk theophan]

Quote: MoJloT

earlier than in Russia itself, bravo, intelligence does not sleep.

yes, come on ..... sometimes the news on VO is late for a day and a half from, for example, LA

[MoJloT]

Yes, I agree, but she had been hanging out there for a week.

[kot11180]

Dear, the article is complete nonsense, a set of rumors, there are no separate plans for USPN which will include all units, and a new district has been formed in Pyatigorsk, not USPN. Special forces are led by the Main USPN through departments in the districts.

[l7yzo]

Oh, we got our own Marine Corps. Everything is done just like they did. Only the Marine Corps is usually located outside the territory of the state, and is rarely used on the territory of the state. We have a correction. In short, the army reports directly to the president. Why would this be all?

To whom the Russian Guard of the Russian Federation will submit

The new federal body is an executive body, therefore, the Russian Guard should be an independent body, which, like all law enforcement agencies, is subordinate to the president

[Hurricane70]

Quote: A. Privalov

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: A. Privalov

Who are you going to fight with?

With the same with whom and now. And they’re not going to fight for a long time. Bandits, terrorists and other evil spirits will be enough for them for a long time. And such comments with hidden libero overtones are inappropriate. Or is nothing known in the "promised land" if you ask such questions?

We have a war - a familiar thing, because the environment is hostile, terrorist attacks are daily, and the army is exactly half of the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops. Is your National Guard, as far as is known in the Promised Land, imprisoned on an internal enemy? You, dear, do not look for subtexts. I ask direct questions. How many internal enemies do you have there and who are they - who are you going to fight with?

You so pry and pretend not to understand, as if you want to hear some kind of sedition? Well, listen: 93rd to remind you? Beitarians, for example, to which enemy do we attribute? Internal or external? Here's an example for you; more of what they did in those days, they won’t succeed.
"... We have a war - a familiar thing ..."
Change habits and no one will come to you because, what? That's right, in FIG who needs you if you respect others ...
Although with whom I am, about what I ...

[Terenin]

It’s possible, of course, to discuss what is right or wrong (I think it’s wrong) transferred the Rosguard from the Ministry of Internal Affairs to the functions of private security (PSB) (it was - command control in the system of a unified police deployment, for example, with the teaching staff, the traffic police, now everyone has their own boss) and licensing and permitting work (LRR) - verification of weapons hunting, the availability of a safe, information, etc. remained with the district police inspectors, as well as the shooting for a bulletproof magazine in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the Russian Guard issued a permit. Those who designed the hunting weapons understand me. Difficulties arise in cooperation, but they must either work them out or return the two services back to the police, as they used to be the migration service and drug control. All this can be resolved promptly, within the framework of the budget of power structures. Not a problem. But, my opinion. the need for the creation of the Russian Guard, in view of the new military threats to Russia, I find in paragraph 2. paragraph 5 of the Regulation on the Russian Guard: "organizing the participation of the national guard in territorial defense ..." i.e. for more operational interaction with the Armed Forces in the performance of their functions in the frontline territories, in the event of war, or, as a second tier in border conflicts.

[faterdom]

All special services were created each to solve their problems, and they are sometimes as far apart from each other. So the military commando-saboteur with mountain training is seriously different from the "fur seal", from the assault units, intelligence is not at all a related specialty in opposing mass unrest or taming riots inside the colonies. Capturing an armed criminal, spy or saboteur is generally something else. Anti-guerrilla action is again everything else. An advanced aircraft pilot too. And only to our "optimizers" of all and all of this is isosceles!
Here to take everything - and share. Or merge everything into a heap. Only then will everything have to be recreated again. And no one will be responsible for all these bad and expensive gestures, such as, for example, the creation of PVS FMS in the bowels of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then the withdrawal of this service from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and then again the input. Or how did they pull out the border guards from the FSB, then put them back in again ... And the incidental costs and expenses of all these reforms with a zero sum — who, uncle pays for them?

[cannabis]

There is such a children's game of dice.

[raw174]

Now in Rosguard the role of private security is not clear, except for the commercial protection of facilities they are not involved in anything! And the Ministry of Internal Affairs has lost real power support! The bad thing is that if you are robbed and you called 02, then at best traffic police will arrive (and in rural areas 1 outfit for the entire district is 100 per 100 km.), Or you will have to wait for the district police officer ...

[faterdom]

The traffic police are cutting every fifth (once again), so no one will come, perhaps.

[raw174]

Quote: faterdom

The traffic police are cutting every fifth (once again), so no one will come, perhaps.

And something tells me that they will reduce the land ... The headquarters will remain ... It makes sense to restore the faculty!